Brexit: Government considers scrapping some EU labour laws
20/01/2021 | news | business | 929
Labour accuses Kwasi Kwarteng of "unpicking" workers' rights, as minister confirms he will review rules.
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20/01/2021 10:38:40 117 27
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Is there a bigger bunch of fools than the Lexiteers? We could've been like the Scandinavian countries, who don't seem to have any trouble providing cradle-to-grave social security, with the strongest workers rights in the world, while being inside the EU or EFTA. But instead, as of today, we're ruled by a government that is scrambling not to appear to be far to the right of the US president.
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20/01/2021 10:49:29 56 21
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we will never be like Scandinavian countries, workfrce are to lazy and to stupid and ca'nt even speel
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20/01/2021 10:54:08 12 14
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Scandinavian countries are taxed to absolute death.
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20/01/2021 12:57:04 4 1
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You clearly don't know what the tax rates - even for the very low paid - are in Scandinavia.
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20/01/2021 10:40:45 31 5
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Bankrupt Britain both Financially and Morally.
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20/01/2021 10:41:19 187 46
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This is entirely predictable. Even Corbyn warned of a bonfire of workers' rights.

Brexiteers want a low regulation economy. Once again, we told you so.
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20/01/2021 11:12:44 68 22
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'Even Corbyn?'

I think you'll find he was and is pretty much one of the strongest advocates of improving workers rights rather than discarding them. Has been for his entire career.
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20/01/2021 12:54:59 7 16
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Once again,I'm telling you ''you lost'' - and when has ANYONE in the government said ''we're scrapping workers rights''? So, who's REALLY telling lies here...
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20/01/2021 13:31:59 12 1
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JRM, "We could have the same workers' rights as India.".

Not even Victorian!!!
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AMc
20/01/2021 13:55:07 6 5
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Noooo. Corbyn was very anti Europe on worker rights as he felt UK worker jobs were being lost to the EU
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20/01/2021 15:11:38 8 2
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And LOW Wage economy. Labour Minimum wage, 350.000 affected. After the race to the Bottom under Tories nearly 10 million on or near minimum wage.
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20/01/2021 10:41:54 26 3
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At a time of rising unemployment we should be reducing maximum working hours to 40 each week, not raising it. Share the jobs around.
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20/01/2021 10:43:01 21 5
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And so it begins. The CONservatives will ensure we are taken Back to the Future by at least 40 years before the next election. But at least we have our £350m / week extra for the NHS. Already must be £1bn since 1st January!
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20/01/2021 10:43:11 65 9
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Well don't say you didn't see this coming , enjoy it, Britannia Unchained!
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20/01/2021 10:43:35 83 17
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Another promise broken, as quickly as possible, by people who know they can stay comfortably in power by telling atrocious lies to gullible Angry Grandads.

Who don't care about workers rights.

Nor - we now discover - do they care about fishing, parliamentary oversight, "global Britain", technology, the integrity of the United Kingdom, or anything else from 2016. Or from last week. Or yesterday.
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KRR
20/01/2021 10:45:40 23 16
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Nor do they care about the old - though you appear to be prejudiced about them, misinformed and prepared to stereotype them.
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Bob
20/01/2021 13:00:32 1 0
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Please explain what promise has been broken.
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20/01/2021 13:01:05 1 1
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And people like you don't seem to care about democracy,parliamentary government,or indeed anything except abusing those who disagree with you and getting your own way all the time,whatever the majority might think and what.
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AMc
20/01/2021 14:03:20 1 3
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Funny, nothing has actually been proposed yet, and yet everyone is disagreeing with it.
No promise has been broken, taking back control of our laws means we define our laws, this means scrapping. replacing, changing or not current EU laws.

Quite simple really, even for you comrade.
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bds
20/01/2021 10:43:45 59 11
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This certainly will not be the last time you see this message:

We told you so, but you wouldn’t listen.

Happy now? This is just the beginning.
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20/01/2021 12:42:01 10 22
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You told us what?

Employment law being reviewed and the business secretary quoted saying "We want to protect and enhance workers’ rights going forward".

Obviously we don't know yet what the outcome will be I appreciate, however you've not exactly told me so.. But hey, when you want the UK to fail to be seen to be proven right then I guess you will jump in early...
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20/01/2021 17:01:10 0 0
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You've been saying that since the beginning, I remember when you told us Nissan was going to close Sunderland, Unilever move to Holland, The City up sticks and move to Frankfurt, and we'd suffer an instant recession worse than 2007 just by voting leave. I don't ever remember you saying Covid lock-downs were going to destroy the global economy mind you or anything about Beer on the Web.
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KRR
20/01/2021 10:44:40 253 68
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First, denial: 'We're not scrapping EU labour laws.'

Then, squirming: 'Yes we're scrapping EU labour laws - BUT WE WON'T DILUTE WORKER RIGHTS!'

Then, fantasy: 'The UK has one of the best workers’ rights records in the world - going further than the EU in many areas.'

(Name ONE of those areas)

Tory Brexiteers lied about red tape, pesticides, fishing, now they're lying about worker rights.
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20/01/2021 10:57:14 160 43
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Led by our Liar-in-Chief Mr BoJo
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20/01/2021 11:21:23 11 22
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EU law guarantees 4 weeks annual leave, UK law 5.6 weeks.

Do you want more?
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20/01/2021 11:45:54 15 7
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So, we know we can't undo brexit because we are too far along etc.... but can we sue the tory party for lying to us and then stripping away our rights?
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20/01/2021 11:50:19 9 1
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The 48 hour rule is pointless anyway as the waiver is used to get around it already.
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20/01/2021 12:02:59 9 0
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With a great many EU regulations, including workers' rights, they set MINIMUM standards. The UK has always had the right, even as an EU member, to set national standards that are better than the minimum.

Holidays are not uniform across the EU. In Greece for example, there are more bank holidays than in the UK BUT you lose them if they fall on a weekend. No days in lieu.
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20/01/2021 12:08:13 5 16
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Then, fantasy: 'The UK has one of the best workers’ rights records in the world - going further than the EU in many areas.'

(Name ONE of those areas)

Holiday entitlement is better in U.K. than EU requires.
There you are ONE area, as requested, where the U.K. has better workers rights.
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20/01/2021 12:13:19 3 10
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Now they no longer have Brexit to moan about the same posters keep on moaning about everything. When many of them lose their jobs through the Covid restrictions it will give them more time for moaning.
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20/01/2021 12:29:32 1 5
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The UK tends to enforce employees right effectively - in high unemployment countries everyone is looking the other way

What they say they do and what they do are completely different in Spain/Italy/France and Greece
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20/01/2021 12:32:53 2 8
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“Name one of these areas”

Well, I don’t know...but more than 3.6 million EU immigrants seem to think we do okay.
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20/01/2021 12:52:37 0 8
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Still whinge whinge whinge from Remainers - you lost,both the referendum and a general election where Brexit was the chief issue.The 48 hour cap stops people who want to from working hard and earning extra through overtime payments.And,lies in your whinge (as always with Remainers) - when has ANYONE in the government said ''we're scrapping EU labour laws''?
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AMc
20/01/2021 13:53:23 3 1
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I want to know about the EU worker rights that protected our manufacturing jobs lost over the past 25 years to mainland Europe

The EU worker rights that allowed zero hour contracts

EU worker rights that protected UK jobs from cheap Eastern-EU subsidised labour

EU worker rights that did not protect worker pensions

EU worker rights that oversaw the largest increase in Boss-Worker pay disparity
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20/01/2021 13:56:21 3 1
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Our domestic legislation exceeds EU-required levels of employment protections in a number of ways, including:
- 5.6 weeks of annual leave in the UK as compared to the EU requirement of 4 weeks;
- The right to request flexible working for all employees, as against the EU requirement for the right to request flexible working for parents on return from parental leave
Continued
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20/01/2021 13:56:49 3 1
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52 weeks of maternity leave, of which 39 weeks are paid – as compared to the 14 weeks of paid maternity leave required by the Pregnant Workers’ Directive. The same rules apply to those who adopt;o Paternity leave and pay for new dads or a mother’s partner where there are currently no protections from the EU;
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20/01/2021 15:08:33 0 0
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Well said. Could not agree more.
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20/01/2021 15:53:55 0 0
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You ever worked in Poland?
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PCS
20/01/2021 20:25:43 0 0
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The race to the bottom of rates of pay and conditions.......
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21/01/2021 00:51:25 0 0
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They lie about everything. This should not be a surprise that they want to put more cash in their mate's pockets.

If they make their friends richer, their friends donate more to the party because it helps them get richer, and the people that suffer are us.

Never trust a tory.
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20/01/2021 10:45:29 141 22
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I'm wondering how many Brexit supporting, recent Tory convert, ex-Red Wall voters are going to be finding themselves on the sharp end of this "review" and its future successors. In the whole Brexit debate there was barely any focus on what ordinary people gained from EU membership and now we're starting to find out.
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20/01/2021 12:32:38 38 62
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People should be allowed to work extra hours if they choose. I'm sure. Many work beyond this anyway as overtime and working from home.

So long as new laws mean people aren't forced to change contracts to a 48+hr week or can't be fired for not doing it as an existing employee, I can't see an issue.

If current wages and conditions were poor, why do many foreign nationals come here to work?
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AMc
20/01/2021 13:57:15 3 17
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It was the 'Ordinary People' as you decided to call them that voted for Brexit because they were the forgotten ones in the Monolith EU Empire
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20/01/2021 10:43:35 83 17
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Another promise broken, as quickly as possible, by people who know they can stay comfortably in power by telling atrocious lies to gullible Angry Grandads.

Who don't care about workers rights.

Nor - we now discover - do they care about fishing, parliamentary oversight, "global Britain", technology, the integrity of the United Kingdom, or anything else from 2016. Or from last week. Or yesterday.
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KRR
20/01/2021 10:45:40 23 16
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Nor do they care about the old - though you appear to be prejudiced about them, misinformed and prepared to stereotype them.
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20/01/2021 11:59:24 7 0
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So you're dispusting that around 75% of over-65's voted for Brexit? Let's see your figures, and show me how I'm misinformed and prejudiced. I can't wait
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20/01/2021 16:52:30 0 0
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They are vaccinating them, something that the EU wasn't going to be (still isn't actually) doing anytime soon if not for Brexit.
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20/01/2021 10:46:01 74 14
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The Tories could do many things to improve workers rights, such as ending zero hours contracts, which our economy did without until relatively recently, increase the minimum wage, apply it at age 18 and ensure it is enforced. They will do none of these things, because they want to return us to an unregulated shoe-shine economy, when half the workforce were child chimney sweeps.
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20/01/2021 10:50:26 22 41
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They've already announced an increase to the living wage for April 2021 so that kind of blows a hole in your analysis. It's also enforced as can be seen by the HMRC action recently reported on BBC News. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-government-announces-pay-rise-for-millions-of-people
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20/01/2021 10:56:04 8 7
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What would you replace zero hours with? It used to be called casual labour but zero hours contracts have far more benefits and protections for workers. I work at a company where we have projects where we need say 10 - 20 people for 4 weeks and then nothing for 6 months, what would you do?
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20/01/2021 12:41:18 2 2
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Surely it is better to be employed as a shoe shine boy or a chimney sweep rather than be unemployed?
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AMc
20/01/2021 14:12:48 2 4
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nonsense, Zero contract working has been in existence since slaves built the Pyramids!

The uncomfortable truth is the majority working on those prefer them as it gives them the flexibility they need.

Those who don't like them are those 1970's Shop stewards who want to bring everything to a halt till we go bust then blame everyone else for it.
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20/01/2021 16:53:50 2 0
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Zero hours contracts suit some people
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20/01/2021 10:47:17 3 15
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Don't get your knickers in a twist remoaners it says consider. Obviously if it was detrimental to the electorate they will be voted out.
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bds
20/01/2021 10:49:27 8 0
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How naive is that?
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20/01/2021 10:50:44 5 0
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Bless.
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20/01/2021 10:52:13 10 0
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You are obviously still falling for the lies from this goverment, if they are not thinking about changing it why are they looking at it ?
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20/01/2021 10:59:33 5 0
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The fact they denied they were considering changing workers' rights just a few days ago, only to confirm it now, should ring alarm bells in leavers' minds that maybe, just maybe, the leaders of Leave lied to you that Brexit would be in your interests too
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20/01/2021 11:08:32 5 0
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It's okay for you and other brexiteers to admit that you were wrong.

It's not your fault that you were misled and deceived by people who had only their own interests in mind.

Leaving the EU hasnt brought the power back to us, the people. Its brought it back to a historically privileged group of people who will continue to abuse it and to manipulate your thinking.

Wake up and open your eyes.
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20/01/2021 11:17:17 3 0
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I live in Surrey Heath and everybody keeps returning non-resident, couldn't care about my electorate, universally despised Michael Gove by a massive majority. This was despite the fact that we had an absolutely fabulous local alternative at the last election. So no useless, self-serving MPs with Victorian values will not be voted out.
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20/01/2021 10:48:28 90 15
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"Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng has confirmed the government is looking at scrapping some EU labour laws now it is no longer bound by the bloc's rules."

Just because something can now be done, doesn’t mean it should be done. This needs fighting as much as possible on all fronts.
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20/01/2021 12:29:50 58 8
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The Tories have an 80 seat majority. The only body capable of stopping them scrapping all workers rights is the EU, who might block trade if it gives the UK too much financial advantage.

Next, the Govt will look at health and safety laws, then unfair dismissal and employment tribunals. They'd like to go to the US model, where you can fire someone without consequence or reason.
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20/01/2021 12:35:22 5 4
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You want to fight new laws when you don't know what they are going to be?

Seems a little silly to me.

What if employees are given an option to work longer contracts given many do on overtime or unpaid work from home but the law protects those who don't want to and can't be forced to on existing contracts?

Let's actually wait to see what the proposals are before you get on that high horse...
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20/01/2021 12:55:01 3 4
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since you and most on here havnt go a clue on what he may change...this and other commetns are ridulous. Then even if you might not like some of the changes for example changing 48 hours to more...there are plenty of (non lazy) workers who might have no problem with this if they want to earn more.
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Bob
20/01/2021 12:59:50 2 7
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You don't know what his plans are yet. What if he wants to actually improve them?
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AMc
20/01/2021 14:01:01 0 3
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yeah!!! time to raise the 'Red Flag' again, back to the god old 1970's ehh!?
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20/01/2021 10:48:46 23 1
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Didn't take long for the slave drivers to show their true colours.
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20/01/2021 10:48:52 19 0
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Now the real benefits of Brexit doing away with workers rights, that is how the tories will make UK prosper mightily (you didn't actually think they meant the average punter would be better off did you ?)
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20/01/2021 10:49:18 60 7
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Well. That didn't take long. So it begins. We'll be working 90 hours a week and eating chlorinated chicken before you know it. I know the Tories like Victorian values. My mistake, they want to restore Victorian Britain. Bow peasants to our masters.
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20/01/2021 11:46:04 10 36
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absolutely and in two years time it will be 168 hours a week, eating spam-filled stale crusts while bootlicking anyone who earns more than £6 pound a year...get a grip
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Bob
20/01/2021 13:08:15 3 2
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Working Time Directive limits work to 48 hours.
ONS data shows the average worker works 37 hours a week - the lowest for some time, and it has never been higher than 38 hours since the 90s.

So what makes you think that we'd be working 90 hours a week when we could already be working much longer than we already do?

I guess you just wanted to get a baseless moaning session out of the way.
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20/01/2021 16:57:00 1 0
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If you really want Victorian Britain, demand that we no longer chlorinate the water supply. ;-)
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20/01/2021 10:47:17 3 15
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Don't get your knickers in a twist remoaners it says consider. Obviously if it was detrimental to the electorate they will be voted out.
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bds
20/01/2021 10:49:27 8 0
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How naive is that?
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20/01/2021 10:38:40 117 27
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Is there a bigger bunch of fools than the Lexiteers? We could've been like the Scandinavian countries, who don't seem to have any trouble providing cradle-to-grave social security, with the strongest workers rights in the world, while being inside the EU or EFTA. But instead, as of today, we're ruled by a government that is scrambling not to appear to be far to the right of the US president.
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20/01/2021 10:49:29 56 21
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we will never be like Scandinavian countries, workfrce are to lazy and to stupid and ca'nt even speel
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20/01/2021 11:27:22 9 0
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This is so brilliantly ironic. Thank you, you made me laugh
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20/01/2021 11:37:50 5 10
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They are also taxed like to high heaven like Britain was in the 70's to get their cradle to grave benefits. Try telling the UK population to pay 80% tax which we do already indirectly by the way
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20/01/2021 13:33:54 0 0
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Irony?
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20/01/2021 10:49:58 124 21
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Bingo! Here it comes; race to the bottom.
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20/01/2021 18:02:10 32 6
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Now we are not bound by EU labour rights, we can send 7 year olds up chimneys again for 12 hours a day.......ahhhhhh the good old days are on the way back!
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20/01/2021 10:50:12 2 6
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Meanwhile in Leicestershire the Labour MPs and councillors turn a blind eye to the slave trade in the fashion industry--workers rights !!!
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20/01/2021 10:55:44 11 0
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This is enforced by the government, not the Labour Party. If you support worker's rights, please campaign for them. Whataboutery is of no use.
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20/01/2021 10:57:39 2 0
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Surely it is the HSE that should be checking on these places, and last time I checked it Gov't run
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20/01/2021 10:50:26 4 5
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Surely this is a good thing.

If it happens, won't it be very short term when Labour can campaign on reintroducing the lost protections, and maybe more? This will ensure a majority victory and, when people realise how much better off they are, more than one term.
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20/01/2021 10:54:19 6 0
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Better to campaign now and preserve existing protections, rather than roll-over and accept their decimation. Jam tomorrow is never guaranteed.
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20/01/2021 11:03:18 0 0
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Oh Dear Phony Tony Mk2 ain't going to do anything already following in his footsteps.

Family First Blair introduced Benefits For All stuff singles etc.

Dodds already apologised to the Banks last month.
Arguing against tax and council, even though they increased VAT by 15% last time.
Nothing said about QE, housing etc. Still want more immigration
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20/01/2021 11:08:48 1 0
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I disagree. Once freedoms and protection from exploitation have been lost and we've all had a few years to get used to it, it's very difficult to get them back...
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20/01/2021 10:46:01 74 14
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The Tories could do many things to improve workers rights, such as ending zero hours contracts, which our economy did without until relatively recently, increase the minimum wage, apply it at age 18 and ensure it is enforced. They will do none of these things, because they want to return us to an unregulated shoe-shine economy, when half the workforce were child chimney sweeps.
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20/01/2021 10:50:26 22 41
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They've already announced an increase to the living wage for April 2021 so that kind of blows a hole in your analysis. It's also enforced as can be seen by the HMRC action recently reported on BBC News. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-government-announces-pay-rise-for-millions-of-people
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20/01/2021 10:47:17 3 15
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Don't get your knickers in a twist remoaners it says consider. Obviously if it was detrimental to the electorate they will be voted out.
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20/01/2021 10:50:44 5 0
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Bless.
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20/01/2021 10:51:30 3 3
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what Brexit was all about-making brits the "collies" of Europe. & Horror, TU leaders 'll have to fight (& try defend overpaid salaries) socialst.net
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20/01/2021 10:47:17 3 15
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Don't get your knickers in a twist remoaners it says consider. Obviously if it was detrimental to the electorate they will be voted out.
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20/01/2021 10:52:13 10 0
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You are obviously still falling for the lies from this goverment, if they are not thinking about changing it why are they looking at it ?
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20/01/2021 10:52:17 25 3
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Typical Tory approach - lets stomp on workers rights so our mates can exploit them to make more money. Brexiteer or ex-remainers must see this as a re-run of the Nasty Party.

They'll go after what is left of the unions next.
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20/01/2021 18:49:16 0 1
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Let's hope so!
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20/01/2021 10:52:26 85 10
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It didn't take long for them to break cover. I have employed people directly for 25 years in a multitude of businesses, and rarely (if ever) thought our employment laws concerning the right of the employee were restrictive. What I did find was that employment rights in Germany and France offered greater protection for the employee.
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20/01/2021 10:52:26 5 1
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Kwarsi and Priti, where would we be without them
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20/01/2021 10:38:40 117 27
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Is there a bigger bunch of fools than the Lexiteers? We could've been like the Scandinavian countries, who don't seem to have any trouble providing cradle-to-grave social security, with the strongest workers rights in the world, while being inside the EU or EFTA. But instead, as of today, we're ruled by a government that is scrambling not to appear to be far to the right of the US president.
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20/01/2021 10:54:08 12 14
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Scandinavian countries are taxed to absolute death.
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20/01/2021 10:54:08 1 9
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We should have been like many EU countries in the past and just ignored the laws we didn't want.

Unfortunately, our civil service 'Gold Plated' almost all the laws and we then enforced everything to the letter.
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20/01/2021 10:56:50 12 2
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The civil service have no powers, it is ministers that negotiate and accept EU laws. Everyone has a say in EU laws.
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20/01/2021 10:50:26 4 5
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Surely this is a good thing.

If it happens, won't it be very short term when Labour can campaign on reintroducing the lost protections, and maybe more? This will ensure a majority victory and, when people realise how much better off they are, more than one term.
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20/01/2021 10:54:19 6 0
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Better to campaign now and preserve existing protections, rather than roll-over and accept their decimation. Jam tomorrow is never guaranteed.
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20/01/2021 10:44:18 130 28
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This is what Brexit was all about. You were warned but dismissed it as project fear.
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20/01/2021 13:52:12 38 7
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Indeed - and with an 80 seat majority, gifted by a lot of new Tory voters who will probably be adversely affected by the changes to workers' rights, the Tories will probably get their way with this too.
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AMc
20/01/2021 13:59:31 3 7
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I want to know about the EU worker rights that protected our manufacturing jobs lost over the past 25 years to mainland Europe

The EU worker rights that allowed zero hour contracts

EU worker rights that protected UK jobs from cheap Eastern-EU subsidised labour

EU worker rights that did not protect worker pensions

EU worker rights that oversaw the largest increase in Boss-Worker pay disparity
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20/01/2021 10:54:30 12 0
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Maybe we can look at Parliament and the lords, give them the full rigours of a time and motion exercise , they need to be much more competitive and deliver better value
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20/01/2021 10:54:41 30 4
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Its not too difficult to imagine the following scenario. HMG get rid of the working times directive & say that no one will be expected to work excessive hours, but in reality unscrupulous employers will say if you want to keep your jobs you must work the hours we dictate. This will have the subsequent consequence of creating further unemployment as fewer workers on longer hours are then required.
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20/01/2021 17:04:32 1 1
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At last, a remainer admitting it is all a figment of their imagination.
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20/01/2021 10:45:48 69 12
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"He warned that opting out of the 48-hour week would harm workers in key sectors like the NHS, road haulage and airlines from working excessive hours."

Actually it's BLOODY DANGEROUS, and anyone who says otherwise is a LIAR.

As almost everyone of us has experienced, we tend to make mistakes when we are tired. In the areas mentioned this can lead to DEATHS.
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20/01/2021 11:49:00 36 1
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Personally I was very pleased to know that in hospital no one would any longer be treated by a junior doctor who’d just done a straight 72 hour shift.
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Eva
20/01/2021 14:58:36 0 1
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Don't forget the 48 hours is an average over 17 weeks so if you do some short weeks and have 2 weeks off you can then do some long weeks and people often do.
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Rob
20/01/2021 15:51:36 0 0
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HGV /PSV drivers can still do70hrs a week
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20/01/2021 10:46:06 24 3
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A Tory promise is worthless.
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20/01/2021 10:50:12 2 6
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Meanwhile in Leicestershire the Labour MPs and councillors turn a blind eye to the slave trade in the fashion industry--workers rights !!!
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20/01/2021 10:55:44 11 0
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This is enforced by the government, not the Labour Party. If you support worker's rights, please campaign for them. Whataboutery is of no use.
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20/01/2021 10:55:52 6 0
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I ain't working more than 40 hours a week unless I'm paid for it, and even then I'd rather not.
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20/01/2021 10:46:01 74 14
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The Tories could do many things to improve workers rights, such as ending zero hours contracts, which our economy did without until relatively recently, increase the minimum wage, apply it at age 18 and ensure it is enforced. They will do none of these things, because they want to return us to an unregulated shoe-shine economy, when half the workforce were child chimney sweeps.
40
20/01/2021 10:56:04 8 7
bbc
What would you replace zero hours with? It used to be called casual labour but zero hours contracts have far more benefits and protections for workers. I work at a company where we have projects where we need say 10 - 20 people for 4 weeks and then nothing for 6 months, what would you do?
61
20/01/2021 11:05:41 12 0
bbc
You could take on people on short contract through an employment agency as was done in the past. They paid the tax/national insurance/holiday pay and charged the company a fee. You just want no responsibility for these things to avoid tax/national insurance and holiday pay.
115
20/01/2021 11:30:07 9 0
bbc
The reality is that many employers actually use zero hours contracts to employ staff full-time the whole year round, but without any guarantee that hours won't be reduced at the drop of a hat. Many have no choice but to accept this precarious situation. Yes for those seeking casual/part-time/second income work zero hours contracts may work, but they are not right for full-time workers.
31
20/01/2021 10:54:08 1 9
bbc
We should have been like many EU countries in the past and just ignored the laws we didn't want.

Unfortunately, our civil service 'Gold Plated' almost all the laws and we then enforced everything to the letter.
41
20/01/2021 10:56:50 12 2
bbc
The civil service have no powers, it is ministers that negotiate and accept EU laws. Everyone has a say in EU laws.
9
KRR
20/01/2021 10:44:40 253 68
bbc
First, denial: 'We're not scrapping EU labour laws.'

Then, squirming: 'Yes we're scrapping EU labour laws - BUT WE WON'T DILUTE WORKER RIGHTS!'

Then, fantasy: 'The UK has one of the best workers’ rights records in the world - going further than the EU in many areas.'

(Name ONE of those areas)

Tory Brexiteers lied about red tape, pesticides, fishing, now they're lying about worker rights.
42
20/01/2021 10:57:14 160 43
bbc
Led by our Liar-in-Chief Mr BoJo
300
20/01/2021 12:53:32 0 5
bbc
The ''liars'' are the whinging Remainers (as always) - when has ANYONE in the government said ''we're scrapping EU labour laws''?
690
20/01/2021 16:03:07 0 1
bbc
I'm tired of hearing from whinging lazy workers. They have had it too easy for far too long. We are competing in a global race. Time to wake up and start putting a proper shift in.
21
20/01/2021 10:50:12 2 6
bbc
Meanwhile in Leicestershire the Labour MPs and councillors turn a blind eye to the slave trade in the fashion industry--workers rights !!!
43
20/01/2021 10:57:39 2 0
bbc
Surely it is the HSE that should be checking on these places, and last time I checked it Gov't run
44
20/01/2021 10:57:49 35 4
bbc
Tory record last 12 months: no free school meals in holidays (u-turn), vote against genocide as reason to stop a trade deal, Russia Report awaiting details of Tory connections, nearly 100k dead from botched Covid response, £22bn for failed test and trace, no-tender contracts awarded to Tory donors, new head of BBC (Tory donor), vote to break inter'l law, cut int'l aid budget..need more characters!
45
20/01/2021 10:57:55 19 1
bbc
message to this dame woman,the tories were always the nasty party,its not just recently its been for many years,no surprise austerity will begin in earnest as the economy cant be propped up by more welfare spending,johnson has no room left rather than attack the welfare state,they will and that will satisfy ids and his vision of universal poverty,80 seats majority can do what they want,north first
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20/01/2021 10:58:19 5 1
bbc
Just a continuation of the past 40 years of right wing Tory, New Tory and Social Undemocratic policies.

Thatcher the Tax Dodger and Phony Tony Tory Blair and MK2 will be extremely proud.
47
20/01/2021 10:58:57 70 7
bbc
We can see who’s taking back control now, and it’s not the Ordinary Joes who voted for Brexit. The Tories are centralising power and handing cash to cronies as fast as they can while the rest of us will live in a low- wage, low-regulation economy, a servant class once again.
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20/01/2021 11:17:51 53 2
bbc
I've lost count the number of times these past couple of years I asked of people on here - Who exactly they thought was going to take back control? All I ever got thrown back at me were accusations of project fear - to which my response was "well, just check it out so you're sure you know what you're doing and the price you may be paying " I tried.
276
20/01/2021 12:43:21 5 1
bbc
What is wrong with working as a servant? You are being insulting to everyone in the hospitality industry.
48
20/01/2021 10:59:17 31 4
bbc
WoW! I am really surprised that this Government are going back on their word, AGAIN!

Politicians need to remember that they work for us, not themselves. If only people used their vote properly.....
449
20/01/2021 13:56:49 5 0
bbc
57% did.
But it didn't work, for some reason
752
20/01/2021 17:24:12 1 0
bbc
Our electoral system is broken, the majority of people didn't vote conservative.
49
20/01/2021 10:59:20 30 2
bbc
mike ashley will love this
13
20/01/2021 10:47:17 3 15
bbc
Don't get your knickers in a twist remoaners it says consider. Obviously if it was detrimental to the electorate they will be voted out.
50
20/01/2021 10:59:33 5 0
bbc
The fact they denied they were considering changing workers' rights just a few days ago, only to confirm it now, should ring alarm bells in leavers' minds that maybe, just maybe, the leaders of Leave lied to you that Brexit would be in your interests too
51
20/01/2021 11:01:16 27 1
bbc
A Tory promise is an oxymoron
108
20/01/2021 11:26:59 1 7
bbc
making all those lovely students believing Corbyn's tuition fee promises moronic I guess. Nearly all politicians' promises contain outright lies, fence-sitting, and blatant half-truths at best - it is what they do and why no sane individual gives any of them any credence - why, seemingly, do you?
52
20/01/2021 11:01:19 57 6
bbc
So removing restrictions on working hours is not reducing workers rights? Interesting view point. What next? No holiday/sick/redundancy entitlement? The Tories do seem to want to be American.
333
Bob
20/01/2021 13:06:28 10 2
bbc
Can you send me a copy of the proposals please, they don't seem to be in the public domain yet.
345
20/01/2021 13:10:51 4 0
bbc
What working hours restrictions? I worked 60 hours last week, and the one before that. You only break the working time directive rule if your average over 17 weeks exceeds 48 hours. I once had a whole year where my average was over 50 hours, I hadn't opted out of the WTD. Nothing happened, no one noticed, it is not enforced.
53
20/01/2021 11:02:35 3 4
bbc
The 48 hour week is meaningless, I've never met an employer that didn't get you to sign this away as a condition of employment.

I would however, like to keep my paid holidays thanks. I mean, I don't use them anyway since I get paid for what I don't take, so it's kind of a negative incentive to work more.
62
20/01/2021 11:05:46 6 2
bbc
Speak for yourself. Employers can't force you to sign away your right, and none that I have worked for since the introduction of the legislation have even tried too.
65
20/01/2021 11:08:29 2 0
bbc
Excuses. What about all EU citizens who now have to pay £30k instead of 12k a year to go to university here. NO EU university has done that to us.
Until it lands on your face you wont even smell it.
54
20/01/2021 11:02:38 10 1
bbc
I suggest to scrap Statutory Sick pay for employees. We shouldn't get that UE regulation paid anymore. It was ridiculous to pay 80%-100% wages to people being temporary unable to work because of sickness. Oh, hold on. We pay just 90 pounds a week? Much less than even poor Eastern European EU members?
55
20/01/2021 11:03:00 156 24
bbc
My goodness, we were promised a bonfire of red tape and instead we have a jungle of it and a bonfire of workers rights. Who would have thought this was what Brexit was all about.
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20/01/2021 11:51:23 14 0
bbc
Anyone with half a brain.
214
20/01/2021 12:15:15 5 0
bbc
Best comment of the day. I don't believe it!
414
20/01/2021 13:32:48 7 0
bbc
Anyone with an IQ.
668
20/01/2021 15:44:53 11 0
bbc
Both those who voted against Brexit and most of those who led the pro-Brexit campaign knew that this was what Brexit was about. (Although in fairness to Boris Johnson, to him Brexit was about launching his campaign to be PM, and he didn't care one way or the other on workers' rights.. )
774
20/01/2021 17:52:59 0 0
bbc
I did
897
21/01/2021 01:02:42 5 0
bbc
Plenty of people. Some of them have even started to say "We told you this would happen, but you shouted us down with cries of Project Fear!".

Well. Thanks for helping railroad the country into this mess, brexiters. You helped cause this; and there's no-one else to blame, and what's more, most of you know it - you're just ashamed to admit it.
22
20/01/2021 10:50:26 4 5
bbc
Surely this is a good thing.

If it happens, won't it be very short term when Labour can campaign on reintroducing the lost protections, and maybe more? This will ensure a majority victory and, when people realise how much better off they are, more than one term.
56
20/01/2021 11:03:18 0 0
bbc
Oh Dear Phony Tony Mk2 ain't going to do anything already following in his footsteps.

Family First Blair introduced Benefits For All stuff singles etc.

Dodds already apologised to the Banks last month.
Arguing against tax and council, even though they increased VAT by 15% last time.
Nothing said about QE, housing etc. Still want more immigration
57
20/01/2021 11:03:49 15 3
bbc
And the Christmas has finally come for turkeys.
58
bcl
20/01/2021 11:03:57 52 5
bbc
KK says "We are not going to lower the standards of workers’ rights", so under this government you can expect standards to be lowered next week.
76
20/01/2021 11:11:06 5 47
bbc
Rubbish
740
20/01/2021 17:02:08 0 0
bbc
Ah, so they haven't actually done anything, so you didn't actually tell us anything? Sounds about right
59
20/01/2021 11:05:19 33 3
bbc
All part of Global Britain. We can compete on equal terms with Myanmar, El Salvador and Vietnam. We didn't vote to maintain first world, European standards!. Well, you were warned but apparently those warnings were "Project Fear".
Rubbish Removed
60
20/01/2021 11:05:20 24 3
bbc
And so the conservative dream begis. 70 hour weeks for £3 an hour
74
20/01/2021 11:10:41 4 21
bbc
Rubbish
90
20/01/2021 11:21:19 1 5
bbc
Please grow up, people like you really need to get out of the unrealistic echo chambers you inhabit.
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Bob
20/01/2021 13:11:59 0 1
bbc
Average full time worker works 11 hours less than WTD limit. Why would things change?
40
20/01/2021 10:56:04 8 7
bbc
What would you replace zero hours with? It used to be called casual labour but zero hours contracts have far more benefits and protections for workers. I work at a company where we have projects where we need say 10 - 20 people for 4 weeks and then nothing for 6 months, what would you do?
61
20/01/2021 11:05:41 12 0
bbc
You could take on people on short contract through an employment agency as was done in the past. They paid the tax/national insurance/holiday pay and charged the company a fee. You just want no responsibility for these things to avoid tax/national insurance and holiday pay.
53
20/01/2021 11:02:35 3 4
bbc
The 48 hour week is meaningless, I've never met an employer that didn't get you to sign this away as a condition of employment.

I would however, like to keep my paid holidays thanks. I mean, I don't use them anyway since I get paid for what I don't take, so it's kind of a negative incentive to work more.
62
20/01/2021 11:05:46 6 2
bbc
Speak for yourself. Employers can't force you to sign away your right, and none that I have worked for since the introduction of the legislation have even tried too.
71
20/01/2021 11:10:20 1 2
bbc
You've clearly not worked in a place with varying hours. If the conditions aren't recorded on paper, they can do anything they want.
79
20/01/2021 11:11:55 1 0
bbc
your in a dream it was the first thing every employer did when leg came out
63
20/01/2021 11:05:48 28 2
bbc
Simple rule - if key proponents of Brexit and/or BoJo, DomCum, the ERG say something, the opposite is generally more likely, be it workers rights, getting a better deal with the EU, protecting fishing, money for the NHS etc.
72
20/01/2021 11:10:25 2 26
bbc
Rubbish
742
20/01/2021 17:03:23 0 2
bbc
even simpler rule, never believe anything a remainer says, they don't believe in democracy.
64
20/01/2021 11:08:21 33 3
bbc
This was exactly what I warned about before the referendum. The Tory's have a history of trying to reduce employee protection when they can or block the introduction of new protections.
69
20/01/2021 11:10:06 3 32
bbc
Rubbish
53
20/01/2021 11:02:35 3 4
bbc
The 48 hour week is meaningless, I've never met an employer that didn't get you to sign this away as a condition of employment.

I would however, like to keep my paid holidays thanks. I mean, I don't use them anyway since I get paid for what I don't take, so it's kind of a negative incentive to work more.
65
20/01/2021 11:08:29 2 0
bbc
Excuses. What about all EU citizens who now have to pay £30k instead of 12k a year to go to university here. NO EU university has done that to us.
Until it lands on your face you wont even smell it.
13
20/01/2021 10:47:17 3 15
bbc
Don't get your knickers in a twist remoaners it says consider. Obviously if it was detrimental to the electorate they will be voted out.
66
20/01/2021 11:08:32 5 0
bbc
It's okay for you and other brexiteers to admit that you were wrong.

It's not your fault that you were misled and deceived by people who had only their own interests in mind.

Leaving the EU hasnt brought the power back to us, the people. Its brought it back to a historically privileged group of people who will continue to abuse it and to manipulate your thinking.

Wake up and open your eyes.
67
20/01/2021 11:09:45 6 4
bbc
Let's not reform labour laws and continue to buy goods from China, and the Indian subcontinent where they use slave labour and the workers live in appalling conditions. We call ourselves civilised. Time we showed it.
89
20/01/2021 11:19:22 0 1
bbc
Rubbish
68
20/01/2021 11:10:02 26 3
bbc
Boris breaking the agreement he signed less than 3 weeks ago.
Eu will impose tariffs . Boris will then blame them .
This is no deal by the back door
156
20/01/2021 11:47:31 2 8
bbc
What rules is he breaking???
64
20/01/2021 11:08:21 33 3
bbc
This was exactly what I warned about before the referendum. The Tory's have a history of trying to reduce employee protection when they can or block the introduction of new protections.
69
20/01/2021 11:10:06 3 32
bbc
Rubbish
315
20/01/2021 12:58:17 4 0
bbc
Prove it!
539
sw
20/01/2021 14:33:21 2 0
bbc
That will be what life will be like for some people.
70
20/01/2021 11:10:15 58 8
bbc
Now they have failed to come up with any trade deals that are better than the EU had, which was always a long shot anyway, it's a race to bottom to turn us into an 'employment at will / fired at will' hell hole like the USA.
62
20/01/2021 11:05:46 6 2
bbc
Speak for yourself. Employers can't force you to sign away your right, and none that I have worked for since the introduction of the legislation have even tried too.
71
20/01/2021 11:10:20 1 2
bbc
You've clearly not worked in a place with varying hours. If the conditions aren't recorded on paper, they can do anything they want.
308
20/01/2021 12:55:45 1 0
bbc
Making assumptions about others that you don't know!

You have just made a wrong assumption
63
20/01/2021 11:05:48 28 2
bbc
Simple rule - if key proponents of Brexit and/or BoJo, DomCum, the ERG say something, the opposite is generally more likely, be it workers rights, getting a better deal with the EU, protecting fishing, money for the NHS etc.
72
20/01/2021 11:10:25 2 26
bbc
Rubbish
88
20/01/2021 11:18:21 7 0
bbc
Prove it.
339
20/01/2021 13:09:12 2 1
bbc
You keep saying that.

It doesn't mean you are right....
73
20/01/2021 11:10:28 4 10
bbc
There is little point in leaving the EU and then keeping all the EU laws as is.
78
20/01/2021 11:11:43 8 3
bbc
Unless it gives you more rights and freedoms.
96
20/01/2021 11:23:23 1 1
bbc
If only we had this knowledge before we voted (which we did but nationalist pushed a racist agenda instead, which won) . Knowledge is pointless in the hands of nationalists thugs. Racism won - not Brexit.
60
20/01/2021 11:05:20 24 3
bbc
And so the conservative dream begis. 70 hour weeks for £3 an hour
74
20/01/2021 11:10:41 4 21
bbc
Rubbish
356
20/01/2021 13:12:30 3 0
bbc
Does your keyboard fail after7 characters, or something?

That seems to be all you've said on this so far...
459
20/01/2021 14:01:47 1 0
bbc
Do you only know one word?
464
20/01/2021 14:02:52 2 0
bbc
JRM " we could have the same workiers rights as India"
59
20/01/2021 11:05:19 33 3
bbc
All part of Global Britain. We can compete on equal terms with Myanmar, El Salvador and Vietnam. We didn't vote to maintain first world, European standards!. Well, you were warned but apparently those warnings were "Project Fear".
Rubbish Removed
58
bcl
20/01/2021 11:03:57 52 5
bbc
KK says "We are not going to lower the standards of workers’ rights", so under this government you can expect standards to be lowered next week.
76
20/01/2021 11:11:06 5 47
bbc
Rubbish
199
bcl
20/01/2021 12:07:14 3 1
bbc
So when Johnson says they'll be less red tape, we'll stamp out the virus in 3 months, you can meet your family for 5 days at Christmas, we'll take back control of our fish, we'll take back control of our borders, we pay the EU £350M a week, there won't be a border down the Irish Sea, we'll prosper mightily, we'll stop free school meals over the holidays, we'll open schools etc you believe him.
361
20/01/2021 12:59:53 2 0
bbc
apologist.
441
20/01/2021 13:52:29 2 0
bbc
You expect them to be raised?
55
20/01/2021 11:03:00 156 24
bbc
My goodness, we were promised a bonfire of red tape and instead we have a jungle of it and a bonfire of workers rights. Who would have thought this was what Brexit was all about.
Rubbish Removed
84
KRR
20/01/2021 11:15:56 2 7
bbc
Care to expand on that, with references, old boy?
73
20/01/2021 11:10:28 4 10
bbc
There is little point in leaving the EU and then keeping all the EU laws as is.
78
20/01/2021 11:11:43 8 3
bbc
Unless it gives you more rights and freedoms.
98
20/01/2021 11:24:25 0 0
bbc
Like what?
62
20/01/2021 11:05:46 6 2
bbc
Speak for yourself. Employers can't force you to sign away your right, and none that I have worked for since the introduction of the legislation have even tried too.
79
20/01/2021 11:11:55 1 0
bbc
your in a dream it was the first thing every employer did when leg came out
3
20/01/2021 10:41:19 187 46
bbc
This is entirely predictable. Even Corbyn warned of a bonfire of workers' rights.

Brexiteers want a low regulation economy. Once again, we told you so.
80
20/01/2021 11:12:44 68 22
bbc
'Even Corbyn?'

I think you'll find he was and is pretty much one of the strongest advocates of improving workers rights rather than discarding them. Has been for his entire career.
135
20/01/2021 11:40:23 23 0
bbc
I rather think you misread the comment

Even Corbyn warned of a bonfire of worker's rights [due to leaving the EU]
593
20/01/2021 14:58:23 6 1
bbc
I think you misread the original post.
700
20/01/2021 16:22:16 1 0
bbc
WARNING OF what the Conservative Party would do after Brexit, not WANTING the Labour Party to do. Two completely different words. Looks like you misunderstood the Print.
715
20/01/2021 16:46:10 0 0
bbc
Probably why he was so anti-EU.
81
20/01/2021 11:13:02 11 2
bbc
Very Odd!

No Billyboy or Spinach defending the Tories today?
82
20/01/2021 11:14:17 1 13
bbc
The way in which some trade unions work, society needs protection from them.
83
20/01/2021 11:15:17 36 6
bbc
Ditching the Working Time Directive?

Quelle surprise.

Still, all those Brexit boomers forced back into work because their pension pots have bombed and the pound is worth beans will no doubt be glad of the extra hours. 'Only another fourteen hours on this shift, and we'll be able to afford that potato!'

You get what you vote for, after all...
110
20/01/2021 11:27:27 8 6
bbc
Where does it say the government are ditching the WTD?
Rubbish Removed
84
KRR
20/01/2021 11:15:56 2 7
bbc
Care to expand on that, with references, old boy?
13
20/01/2021 10:47:17 3 15
bbc
Don't get your knickers in a twist remoaners it says consider. Obviously if it was detrimental to the electorate they will be voted out.
85
20/01/2021 11:17:17 3 0
bbc
I live in Surrey Heath and everybody keeps returning non-resident, couldn't care about my electorate, universally despised Michael Gove by a massive majority. This was despite the fact that we had an absolutely fabulous local alternative at the last election. So no useless, self-serving MPs with Victorian values will not be voted out.
47
20/01/2021 10:58:57 70 7
bbc
We can see who’s taking back control now, and it’s not the Ordinary Joes who voted for Brexit. The Tories are centralising power and handing cash to cronies as fast as they can while the rest of us will live in a low- wage, low-regulation economy, a servant class once again.
86
20/01/2021 11:17:51 53 2
bbc
I've lost count the number of times these past couple of years I asked of people on here - Who exactly they thought was going to take back control? All I ever got thrown back at me were accusations of project fear - to which my response was "well, just check it out so you're sure you know what you're doing and the price you may be paying " I tried.
179
20/01/2021 11:54:53 1 12
bbc
Immigration mate is a good example. If you or I want to emigrate to Sydney in either Australia or Canada, we have to pass a point system that does NOT discriminate where we come from just whether we gain enough points to enter or not that is decided and updated by the national governments of the day, and NOT by a bunch of faceless undemocratic gnomes in Brussels, on big Fat Cat pensions.
87
20/01/2021 11:18:17 99 11
bbc
Losing your employment rights? Never mind, just sleep well remembering that Tory backing millionaires are able to hide their money offshore away from the prying eyes of EU legislation. They are laughing at every one of you Brexit voting puppets.
132
20/01/2021 11:39:55 42 12
bbc
Puppets with an ’m’ please, aka Brextwits.
181
20/01/2021 11:56:03 2 6
bbc
Numpty, the biggest On Shore Off Shore money laundering country in the world almost is sweet Luxembourg.
479
AMc
20/01/2021 14:07:46 1 1
bbc
As opposed to Labour millionaires who of course never do, nor for that matter your beloved EU who have overseen the largest disparity in Boss-worker pay EVER in the history of mankind and charged us £13 Billion a year for the pleasure.

Oh my lord, still on the 1970's bandwagon aren't you.
72
20/01/2021 11:10:25 2 26
bbc
Rubbish
88
20/01/2021 11:18:21 7 0
bbc
Prove it.
67
20/01/2021 11:09:45 6 4
bbc
Let's not reform labour laws and continue to buy goods from China, and the Indian subcontinent where they use slave labour and the workers live in appalling conditions. We call ourselves civilised. Time we showed it.
89
20/01/2021 11:19:22 0 1
bbc
Rubbish
60
20/01/2021 11:05:20 24 3
bbc
And so the conservative dream begis. 70 hour weeks for £3 an hour
90
20/01/2021 11:21:19 1 5
bbc
Please grow up, people like you really need to get out of the unrealistic echo chambers you inhabit.
9
KRR
20/01/2021 10:44:40 253 68
bbc
First, denial: 'We're not scrapping EU labour laws.'

Then, squirming: 'Yes we're scrapping EU labour laws - BUT WE WON'T DILUTE WORKER RIGHTS!'

Then, fantasy: 'The UK has one of the best workers’ rights records in the world - going further than the EU in many areas.'

(Name ONE of those areas)

Tory Brexiteers lied about red tape, pesticides, fishing, now they're lying about worker rights.
91
20/01/2021 11:21:23 11 22
bbc
EU law guarantees 4 weeks annual leave, UK law 5.6 weeks.

Do you want more?
121
20/01/2021 11:33:21 39 5
bbc
How did we get away with a higher minimum if 4 weeks was ”imposed” on us by the dictatorial EU then? More sovrintea BS.
167
Sam
20/01/2021 11:50:34 20 2
bbc
That's rubbish, in the UK it's 4 weeks plus bank holidays just like in the EU. Bank holidays are an entitlement in addition to annual leave. They are not A/L as you can't choose when to take them.

But it's not guaranteed anyway, it's pro-rata if your part time and nothing if you are self employed or on a zero hours contract.
187
20/01/2021 11:59:06 22 2
bbc
Ah. You are simply repeating Johnson’s figures without any scrutiny, as usual. The 5.6 includes bank holidays and as you are no doubt aware, the UK has the fewest bank holidays in Europe.
227
VDO
20/01/2021 12:20:09 8 0
bbc
Yes, i want more.
The UK cheats, it includes 8 bank holidays in the count. Plus the EU is a directive not law.
Holidays in the continent are well above the UK, citing the EU directive is not a good comparison.
282
20/01/2021 12:45:41 4 2
bbc
Eu has far more holidays than the U.K.
520
20/01/2021 14:27:39 2 1
bbc
A slight over-stretch there. It's 4 weeks + Bank Holidays (which can be included in the 5.6 weeks).
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sam
21/01/2021 08:32:11 0 0
bbc
Make things up as you go along. EU recommends a minimum of four weeks. The UK regulations recommends a MAXIMUM of 5.6 weeks but not every employee is guaranteed that period of leave.
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20/01/2021 11:21:49 2 1
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When unskilled and semi-skilled employees are in oversupply due the bloodbath in jobs thanks to covid there is going to be some rough times in the Labour market for a while. I'd rather have a low paid job that was hard work than no job at all, there's no chance of climbing the ladder with the latter.
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20/01/2021 11:26:12 0 0
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There will be plenty of building jobs - but as before no decent builders because they are all playing fortnight and sucking in helium. The new British dream
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20/01/2021 10:57:55 19 1
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message to this dame woman,the tories were always the nasty party,its not just recently its been for many years,no surprise austerity will begin in earnest as the economy cant be propped up by more welfare spending,johnson has no room left rather than attack the welfare state,they will and that will satisfy ids and his vision of universal poverty,80 seats majority can do what they want,north first
Removed
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20/01/2021 11:22:51 30 3
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NI supply chain problems. Fresh exports rotting and businesses being closed. Mountains of red tape where there was none before. Higher prices. Less choice. Weaker workplace rights. Welcome to Brexit - I hope it gets really bad for the fools who voted for this despite being told what would happen. But they knew best didn't they? Well, they knew nothing.
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20/01/2021 11:32:17 17 2
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For all the Gov's faux protestations, they CHOSE to remove non-regression clauses for workers' rights & environmental protections from WA/PD. What's more... they have consistently REFUSED to bring in legal obligations not to regress, using the risible excuse that it wasn't necessary as they really & truly don't intend to regress.... honestly, pinky swear. And we are just supposed to believe them.
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20/01/2021 11:22:54 2 10
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This has nothing to do with workers rights - very few legal workers in the UK work more than 48 hours a week and the ones which do get special dispensation anyway.

What it does do, however, is relieve companies of the administrative burden of having to keep meticulous time records on all their employees and submit them to the authorities. Which gives them more time to do what they are there for.
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20/01/2021 11:26:13 2 0
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Most of those that do work in the public sector, like paramedics, doctors and firemen.
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20/01/2021 11:26:43 0 1
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Which authorities would they be then?
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20/01/2021 11:26:45 1 0
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Hysterically funny. You talk of administrative burden when businesses have just been buried under a mountain of it? Are you a professional comedian?
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20/01/2021 11:28:08 1 0
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A peoce of software does this time keeping thing for £1 a month. Ridiculous argument.
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20/01/2021 11:29:19 1 0
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You seem to have missed the point. Workers in UK cannot be compelled to work more than 48 hours &, if the WTD is removed, they CAN be forced to do so.
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20/01/2021 11:10:28 4 10
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There is little point in leaving the EU and then keeping all the EU laws as is.
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20/01/2021 11:23:23 1 1
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If only we had this knowledge before we voted (which we did but nationalist pushed a racist agenda instead, which won) . Knowledge is pointless in the hands of nationalists thugs. Racism won - not Brexit.
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20/01/2021 11:23:43 17 2
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Degent
11:14
"The way in which some trade unions work, society needs protection from them".

If it was the 60s, 70, or early 80s I would agree with you but no any more. In fact we actually need protecting from some employers, P Green for instance.
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20/01/2021 11:28:14 10 1
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And British Gas. And British Airways. Exploiting the pandemic & furlough / tax payers' money to force through contractual changes that negatively impact on their workers.
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20/01/2021 13:16:45 3 0
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As I'm sure I've said before....

"Unions, The people who brought you the weekend!"
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20/01/2021 11:11:43 8 3
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Unless it gives you more rights and freedoms.
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20/01/2021 11:24:25 0 0
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Like what?
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20/01/2021 11:24:36 6 0
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Typical conservative action. Make life more difficult for the people who actually do the work and take the profits made by the employers. Without the workers there would be no profits. Words fail me.
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20/01/2021 11:06:05 3 1
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This could go two ways
Corbyn’s four day week to allow for more jobs
Or working all the hours you can get just to scrape by
‘Retaliation measures’ describes the latter
They could’ve done this while within the EU, the fact they didn’t means that nasty EU was not actually that nasty...