Organic food shipping system is a 'nightmare' post-Brexit
20/01/2021 | news | world | 339
One of the UK's biggest health food firms has sent no organic products to Ireland since Christmas.
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20/01/2021 10:39:52 55 7
bbc
Get ready for the DUP blaming everyone else for this.
116
20/01/2021 13:33:36 33 4
bbc
It's their traditional route.
117
20/01/2021 13:33:47 8 2
bbc
Their acolytes are already here and bellyaching - lol
120
20/01/2021 13:35:17 3 8
bbc
Was gonna say watch the DUP get the blame and how sinn fein are the heroes..
213
20/01/2021 17:37:05 0 14
bbc
Get your facts right.

DUP did not support this border in Westminster.

Whereas, SF/Alliance/NI Retail consortium/Ulster Farmers Union all did want this border.

IF we were treated the same as GB, which is what the DUP said (watch Westminster debates), then we would not have this Border in the Irish Sea.

One must ask - Why do the BBC give propaganda space in these HYS for fake news?
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20/01/2021 10:45:19 4 21
bbc
I voted out not separate us further from the UK and now to the gurns of Sin Fain. Southern Ireland is in Europe, NI isn’t therefore the border checks should be between NI and Ireland. My vote counted for nothing as being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Discrimination at the worst
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20/01/2021 11:06:50 18 5
bbc
My vote counted for nothing also. I voted Remain but thanks to the DUP and The Little England Brigade I was forced out of the EU against my will. A blind man on a galloping horse could have foreseen the outcome of this self inflicted disaster so instead of blaming everyone else direct your gurning towards the DUP. They alone are responsible for this debacle.
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MX
20/01/2021 11:11:49 9 1
bbc
NI have 7 ports and airports between itself and GB. Look at the logistical difficulties this is causing atm.
Now imagine over 270 crossings between NI and ROI. How could these possibly be managed?
I know you will say “It’s the EU’s problem”. But its not. It’s both the EU & UK’s problem under WTO rules. WTO don’t allow for differences outside of a trade deal. Hence the managed crossings.
BJ knows
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FF
20/01/2021 11:27:45 8 2
bbc
Mate would you away and lie down.

You are clearly not in a good place and your attacks on nurses and now crying to be discriminated against? WHAT?

Just stop puking everybody everyday with your current breakdown.

We DontCare because you care about nobody else but yourself.
13
20/01/2021 11:28:12 7 2
bbc
Your sort love to miss-spell Sinn Fein, you think it's clever, but it only succeeds in making you look silly and childish
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20/01/2021 11:31:32 7 3
bbc
'NI isn’t..'
Is that why traders in Britain need customs declarations if they sell you something, if you live here?
Perhaps it's why EU officials are in B'fast, Warrenpoint & Larne, telling the UK what to check?
Maybe it's why Dublin has more say in trading relations here than London has?

????????
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20/01/2021 11:34:08 10 3
bbc
You voted out. You had been warned by a legion of economists and legal experts of the ramifications. Too bad, it's a mess of your making and of others like you.

Nothing to do with the EU, Sinn Féin, Simon Coveney etc....it's all down to you and people like you.
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20/01/2021 12:29:01 5 2
bbc
But you voted for bvringing back control, controlling our borders, expanding our trading options and being rule makers rather than rule takers: now you have what you wanted.
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20/01/2021 10:56:24 7 1
bbc
A system that is not designed for this situation sounds like more than a teething problem to me. Unforfunately it applies to 170 odd other countries not in the EU/CU/SM. That will not be changed quickly.
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20/01/2021 12:17:41 7 1
bbc
Not be changed quickly?
What do you want traders - like those quoted - to do while they wait? Sign on?
There's a 3 mnth grace period, this is going to get a lot worse.
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20/01/2021 10:45:19 4 21
bbc
I voted out not separate us further from the UK and now to the gurns of Sin Fain. Southern Ireland is in Europe, NI isn’t therefore the border checks should be between NI and Ireland. My vote counted for nothing as being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Discrimination at the worst
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20/01/2021 11:06:50 18 5
bbc
My vote counted for nothing also. I voted Remain but thanks to the DUP and The Little England Brigade I was forced out of the EU against my will. A blind man on a galloping horse could have foreseen the outcome of this self inflicted disaster so instead of blaming everyone else direct your gurning towards the DUP. They alone are responsible for this debacle.
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20/01/2021 11:20:28 2 7
bbc
Yea you lost in a democratic vote and cause whinged enough my vote which was the one that won did absolutely nothing!!
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20/01/2021 11:07:38 53 11
bbc
I remember hearing the day after the referendum that Brexit was not compatible with the Good Friday Agreement and this is the shambles we end up with.

At least Theresa May wanted a customs union and tried to ensure these other checks weren't required but Boris the Liar convinced the gullible that he had a simple solution to a complexed problem, and they were suckered.
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20/01/2021 11:36:55 43 7
bbc
"No british prime minister could in good conscience put a border between GB and NI"

so the tories kicked her out and brought in Bozo...
193
20/01/2021 16:51:24 3 5
bbc
Unlike wise old you , who saw it all !
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20/01/2021 10:45:19 4 21
bbc
I voted out not separate us further from the UK and now to the gurns of Sin Fain. Southern Ireland is in Europe, NI isn’t therefore the border checks should be between NI and Ireland. My vote counted for nothing as being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Discrimination at the worst
6
MX
20/01/2021 11:11:49 9 1
bbc
NI have 7 ports and airports between itself and GB. Look at the logistical difficulties this is causing atm.
Now imagine over 270 crossings between NI and ROI. How could these possibly be managed?
I know you will say “It’s the EU’s problem”. But its not. It’s both the EU & UK’s problem under WTO rules. WTO don’t allow for differences outside of a trade deal. Hence the managed crossings.
BJ knows
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20/01/2021 11:23:16 1 7
bbc
So your happy that we can’t properly control our borders between NI and Ireland. People can freely travel when there is issues with Covid and a foreign government can do what they want. This could explain the high infection rate at the border counties!! Also immigrants can travel unchecked into NI and hopefully our system can control them not getting benefits or jobs!! Should be controlled!
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FF
20/01/2021 11:56:43 9 1
bbc
To quote the man himself - Boris

"There will be no border down the Irish Sea - over my dead body."

An absolute liar to the back teeth. It's Ironic the partitioning of Ireland cost Little Englands perfect Brexit.

You reap what you sow.
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20/01/2021 11:01:05 5 11
bbc
This situation was agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU, and is being imposed by the EU, ergo they are the ones responsible.

We are however in a situation that was entirely predictable before the very first vote of the Brexit referendum. One can only assume that DUP support for Brexit, was one last throw of the dice in a numbers game that was closing in on them.

They gambled, and lost all.
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FF
20/01/2021 11:25:02 13 6
bbc
"Being imposed by the EU"

Your Meds are kicking in man. The EU done nothing that wasn't to be expected. The Good Old United Kingdom decided to leave.

That was the choice made. All repercussions are due to leaving the Club/EU.

I would respect leavers more if they admitted that they didn't really know what they had agreed too.

Never have I seen the Republic movement furthered, without a bullet.
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20/01/2021 11:31:06 11 1
bbc
"agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU"

So, Johnson is as responsible as the EU....after all, he agreed to it.

It takes two to tango, but, true to form you look to lay the blame at the wrong door.
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20/01/2021 11:33:59 9 1
bbc
Should read: is being imposed by the EU on the back of the agreement with Boris Johnson
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20/01/2021 12:15:08 6 5
bbc
'...being imposed by the EU,..'

Get a grip.
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20/01/2021 11:15:23 48 7
bbc
Somehow "We told you so" just doesn't cover it. ??
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20/01/2021 23:35:08 9 0
bbc
To be fair, Northern Ireland voted remain
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20/01/2021 11:19:22 33 3
bbc
But surely there are no checks, there is no border and there are no forms to fill in or extra charges to pay. Didn't Boris say that. He even told us to send those people to him who demanded all this extra information and money and he would deal with it. He confirmed all this at the DUP conference. Edwin..... Did you and your clan not accept that. Who now do we invoice for all the costs.
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20/01/2021 13:37:31 18 6
bbc
Every business that has been inconvenienced by him should post him one of their wares. Have a dead salmon Boris, have a festering mussel, have a sprout, a spud, a cog and all the other things you're messing up for people.
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20/01/2021 14:15:09 3 2
bbc
I would invoice the DUP...
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20/01/2021 11:01:05 5 11
bbc
This situation was agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU, and is being imposed by the EU, ergo they are the ones responsible.

We are however in a situation that was entirely predictable before the very first vote of the Brexit referendum. One can only assume that DUP support for Brexit, was one last throw of the dice in a numbers game that was closing in on them.

They gambled, and lost all.
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FF
20/01/2021 11:25:02 13 6
bbc
"Being imposed by the EU"

Your Meds are kicking in man. The EU done nothing that wasn't to be expected. The Good Old United Kingdom decided to leave.

That was the choice made. All repercussions are due to leaving the Club/EU.

I would respect leavers more if they admitted that they didn't really know what they had agreed too.

Never have I seen the Republic movement furthered, without a bullet.
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20/01/2021 11:27:26 2 11
bbc
Are you seriously saying that the EU are not the ones imposing their trading conditions on NI ?

If not them, who ?
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MVP
20/01/2021 11:26:39 49 11
bbc
Is there anything positive that has come out of Brexit?

I am struggling to see any benefits at all.
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20/01/2021 13:30:30 35 12
bbc
It will result in Scottish Independence a United Ireland & the break up of the UK. Whether that's good or bad depends on your perspective
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20/01/2021 13:37:13 2 14
bbc
Give it time its only been 3 weeks
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20/01/2021 14:14:17 13 2
bbc
With luck people might see the DUP for what they are, ranting raving clowns,
194
20/01/2021 16:51:29 5 0
bbc
Yes the rich got richer,, and fooled the mugs,
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20/01/2021 17:53:14 9 0
bbc
I keep hearing about this thing called Sovereign Tea, but it seems to be out of stock at the moment.
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20/01/2021 22:04:26 3 0
bbc
Answer: no.
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20/01/2021 10:45:19 4 21
bbc
I voted out not separate us further from the UK and now to the gurns of Sin Fain. Southern Ireland is in Europe, NI isn’t therefore the border checks should be between NI and Ireland. My vote counted for nothing as being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Discrimination at the worst
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FF
20/01/2021 11:27:45 8 2
bbc
Mate would you away and lie down.

You are clearly not in a good place and your attacks on nurses and now crying to be discriminated against? WHAT?

Just stop puking everybody everyday with your current breakdown.

We DontCare because you care about nobody else but yourself.
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20/01/2021 10:45:19 4 21
bbc
I voted out not separate us further from the UK and now to the gurns of Sin Fain. Southern Ireland is in Europe, NI isn’t therefore the border checks should be between NI and Ireland. My vote counted for nothing as being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Discrimination at the worst
13
20/01/2021 11:28:12 7 2
bbc
Your sort love to miss-spell Sinn Fein, you think it's clever, but it only succeeds in making you look silly and childish
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FF
20/01/2021 12:36:06 5 1
bbc
He doesn't miss-spell it! He naturally struggles to spell it correctly.
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20/01/2021 12:28:54 1 5
bbc
I miss-spell it because I don’t care about a party that supported the IRA and has ex convicts in it!
7
20/01/2021 11:01:05 5 11
bbc
This situation was agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU, and is being imposed by the EU, ergo they are the ones responsible.

We are however in a situation that was entirely predictable before the very first vote of the Brexit referendum. One can only assume that DUP support for Brexit, was one last throw of the dice in a numbers game that was closing in on them.

They gambled, and lost all.
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20/01/2021 11:31:06 11 1
bbc
"agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU"

So, Johnson is as responsible as the EU....after all, he agreed to it.

It takes two to tango, but, true to form you look to lay the blame at the wrong door.
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20/01/2021 11:34:40 0 8
bbc
Ones, is a plural, at least it was when I went to school.
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20/01/2021 12:57:14 2 6
bbc
Yes, the EU is as responsible as Boris. Thank you.
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20/01/2021 10:45:19 4 21
bbc
I voted out not separate us further from the UK and now to the gurns of Sin Fain. Southern Ireland is in Europe, NI isn’t therefore the border checks should be between NI and Ireland. My vote counted for nothing as being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Discrimination at the worst
15
20/01/2021 11:31:32 7 3
bbc
'NI isn’t..'
Is that why traders in Britain need customs declarations if they sell you something, if you live here?
Perhaps it's why EU officials are in B'fast, Warrenpoint & Larne, telling the UK what to check?
Maybe it's why Dublin has more say in trading relations here than London has?

????????
7
20/01/2021 11:01:05 5 11
bbc
This situation was agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU, and is being imposed by the EU, ergo they are the ones responsible.

We are however in a situation that was entirely predictable before the very first vote of the Brexit referendum. One can only assume that DUP support for Brexit, was one last throw of the dice in a numbers game that was closing in on them.

They gambled, and lost all.
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20/01/2021 11:33:59 9 1
bbc
Should read: is being imposed by the EU on the back of the agreement with Boris Johnson
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20/01/2021 10:45:19 4 21
bbc
I voted out not separate us further from the UK and now to the gurns of Sin Fain. Southern Ireland is in Europe, NI isn’t therefore the border checks should be between NI and Ireland. My vote counted for nothing as being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Discrimination at the worst
17
20/01/2021 11:34:08 10 3
bbc
You voted out. You had been warned by a legion of economists and legal experts of the ramifications. Too bad, it's a mess of your making and of others like you.

Nothing to do with the EU, Sinn Féin, Simon Coveney etc....it's all down to you and people like you.
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20/01/2021 12:35:33 0 5
bbc
It has something to do with the EU. NI is in this situation because of English balloons and those loyalist pillocks who support English neo-fascist groups. If each nation had voted like us we would still be in. However, the EU seem to think that a UI will now come easily with a little more kicking of unionists. I am one who is becoming more recalcitrant about a UI. The EU needs to ease up.
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20/01/2021 11:07:38 53 11
bbc
I remember hearing the day after the referendum that Brexit was not compatible with the Good Friday Agreement and this is the shambles we end up with.

At least Theresa May wanted a customs union and tried to ensure these other checks weren't required but Boris the Liar convinced the gullible that he had a simple solution to a complexed problem, and they were suckered.
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20/01/2021 11:36:55 43 7
bbc
"No british prime minister could in good conscience put a border between GB and NI"

so the tories kicked her out and brought in Bozo...
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20/01/2021 16:50:22 2 12
bbc
Theresa May was never going to get Brexit done and a new government was needed to get this over the line. It was Theresa May who signed up to the Irish Sea border and tied their hands. The Brexit deal is as good as it could realistically be . The issue was one of sovereignty not economics . The EU is fine if you want a federal state with common currency and structures.
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20/01/2021 11:40:33 42 11
bbc
If organic food is too difficult and costly to source from Britain then source from other EU countries.

It's really that simple. The NI Protocol allows for EU produce, particularly that produced in the 26 counties to pass unhindered into the 6 counties.

Stop gurning, Brexiters...you voted for this.
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20/01/2021 13:03:02 12 23
bbc
who voted on a customs border down the Irish sea? That was not on the ballot paper. The UK was to leave as one unit, but it hasn't so Brexit has not be delivered. It's simply a fudge
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20/01/2021 14:55:09 5 14
bbc
Yes, and this isn’t Brexit for Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland should be able to receive goods from GB with no trouble. Shove the NI protocol out the door.
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20/01/2021 11:43:29 5 1
bbc
This is what happens when you have one supplier i.e.GB. same with supermarkets all from G.B. why is there no French and big German supermarkets like kaufland.for example.you have to change the whole system.
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20/01/2021 19:00:48 0 0
bbc
Eh... Lidl
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20/01/2021 11:06:50 18 5
bbc
My vote counted for nothing also. I voted Remain but thanks to the DUP and The Little England Brigade I was forced out of the EU against my will. A blind man on a galloping horse could have foreseen the outcome of this self inflicted disaster so instead of blaming everyone else direct your gurning towards the DUP. They alone are responsible for this debacle.
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20/01/2021 11:20:28 2 7
bbc
Yea you lost in a democratic vote and cause whinged enough my vote which was the one that won did absolutely nothing!!
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20/01/2021 11:55:56 9 1
bbc
The DUP and Boris Johnson (along with the ERG) campaigned vociferously to have Theresa May's initial deal voted down...a deal which would have avoided all this inconvenience.

So, what you have is pretty much all that was left on the negotiating table.

It's time the DUP and others behaved like adults and took responsibility for a mess of their making.
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20/01/2021 12:25:28 7 2
bbc
What did you 'win'?
You voted Leave & got -
A border between you & Britain.
British traders need customs declarations when selling you something.
EU officials in the north telling the UK what to check.
Dublin has more say than London re: trade in the north of Ireland.

You think you 'won'?
I voted Remain & - as well as the above - still have FOM, access to Euro healthcare, etc.
I 'won'.
??????
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MX
20/01/2021 11:11:49 9 1
bbc
NI have 7 ports and airports between itself and GB. Look at the logistical difficulties this is causing atm.
Now imagine over 270 crossings between NI and ROI. How could these possibly be managed?
I know you will say “It’s the EU’s problem”. But its not. It’s both the EU & UK’s problem under WTO rules. WTO don’t allow for differences outside of a trade deal. Hence the managed crossings.
BJ knows
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20/01/2021 11:23:16 1 7
bbc
So your happy that we can’t properly control our borders between NI and Ireland. People can freely travel when there is issues with Covid and a foreign government can do what they want. This could explain the high infection rate at the border counties!! Also immigrants can travel unchecked into NI and hopefully our system can control them not getting benefits or jobs!! Should be controlled!
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20/01/2021 11:58:20 8 3
bbc
"we can’t properly control our borders between NI and Ireland."

That 'border' has been non existent for over 20 years. The majority on both sides of that border like it that way. It isn't changing again.

Ever.

in addition, 'immigrants' are more likely to head to Dublin rather than Belfast as the benefits system in the 26 counties is considerably more generous than that in the north.
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MX
20/01/2021 12:26:34 4 0
bbc
My whole point is that the Irish border would be unfeasible to manage in any way that would satisfy WTO rules for trade. The UK government took a pragmatic approach and went for the easier option that suits GB.
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20/01/2021 12:39:27 1 2
bbc
The common travel area was supported by all sides early on. When a hard border was mooted it was explained that it would be for goods not people and the RoI's border with Schengen countries would be a bulwark against immigration. Even the DUP wouldn't have been quick to get rid of the CTA.
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20/01/2021 11:47:56 53 14
bbc
I voted remain - it wasn't broken and it didn't need fixing.
Where's the man who started all this - Cameron? Gave the vote to people who hadn't a clue what they were voting for...
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FF
20/01/2021 12:22:27 24 8
bbc
That mans a pariah now. Poor Dave offered the option to feed the growing nationalism and racism to leave the EU. Campaigned to stay and lost.

Dave will get a spud in the back of the head next time i see him.
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20/01/2021 12:08:11 9 0
bbc
It started long before Cameron, he was just the fool who took the gamble.

I'd say the electorate "knew" what they were voting for. The problem was what one group knew was very different to another group.
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20/01/2021 14:12:48 5 2
bbc
DUP just seen silver, easy fooled with greed.
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20/01/2021 17:16:48 3 14
bbc
It was broken and it’s been fixed!
321
21/01/2021 07:13:38 2 0
bbc
I think a lot of people *did* have a clue. IMO there were two types of Brexit voter: those who were too ignorant or stupid to know what they were doing - possibly the majority - and those who *did* know but were so unpleasant that they voted Leave anyway. And some, of course, in the overlap area, being both thick and malicious.
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20/01/2021 11:49:33 12 5
bbc
I’m surprised that lady from Antrim selling the organic lines can’t source what she wants in RoI. I live in Dublin City and I’m tripping over organic shops so there must be a ready supply of produce. Maybe it’s down to guaranteed volume, or a post-Christmas lull. Sounds like there may be a gap in the market so on an island renowned for high-quality food, someone needs to up their game quickly.
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20/01/2021 11:52:24 9 6
bbc
Ballylagan is situate in Ballyclare, County Antrim. A place not known for its love of GAA & Gaeilge...if you get my drift.
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20/01/2021 11:49:33 12 5
bbc
I’m surprised that lady from Antrim selling the organic lines can’t source what she wants in RoI. I live in Dublin City and I’m tripping over organic shops so there must be a ready supply of produce. Maybe it’s down to guaranteed volume, or a post-Christmas lull. Sounds like there may be a gap in the market so on an island renowned for high-quality food, someone needs to up their game quickly.
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20/01/2021 11:52:24 9 6
bbc
Ballylagan is situate in Ballyclare, County Antrim. A place not known for its love of GAA & Gaeilge...if you get my drift.
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20/01/2021 11:59:13 4 3
bbc
Wow. I thought there had been some level of reconciliation in NI over the past years. Seems discrimination is still rife.
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20/01/2021 13:09:10 3 3
bbc
Ok. Ballyclare is hillbilly heaven .... so what ......at least it is not Larne .
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20/01/2021 18:17:29 3 0
bbc
Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification. Seems ironic that the place names are Gaelic, so. Maybe they haven’t realised that’s the case.
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FF
20/01/2021 11:25:02 13 6
bbc
"Being imposed by the EU"

Your Meds are kicking in man. The EU done nothing that wasn't to be expected. The Good Old United Kingdom decided to leave.

That was the choice made. All repercussions are due to leaving the Club/EU.

I would respect leavers more if they admitted that they didn't really know what they had agreed too.

Never have I seen the Republic movement furthered, without a bullet.
26
20/01/2021 11:27:26 2 11
bbc
Are you seriously saying that the EU are not the ones imposing their trading conditions on NI ?

If not them, who ?
30
20/01/2021 11:57:10 7 3
bbc
In the same way the EU require these checks with any other non-EU country. It's there to protect their economy which is what Brexit decided to leave - aka a trading agreement.
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MX
20/01/2021 12:34:13 6 2
bbc
It was a UK & EU (ROI) that came up with this solution to avoid trying to implement WTO rules at the border. So to blame the EU is just a rant. The UK couldn't trade on WTO without managing their border crossings.
BJ chose to put GB interests ahead of NI. As a sovereign nation the UK can and did do this. NI have no sovereignty
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20/01/2021 11:53:07 10 9
bbc
Here we go again. Tomorrow it will be problems importing hair spray or shoe laces or ham sandwiches. Brexit has caused this and rather than complain, it's time to move on and push those in charge to fix the constraints impacting trading.
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20/01/2021 11:20:28 2 7
bbc
Yea you lost in a democratic vote and cause whinged enough my vote which was the one that won did absolutely nothing!!
28
20/01/2021 11:55:56 9 1
bbc
The DUP and Boris Johnson (along with the ERG) campaigned vociferously to have Theresa May's initial deal voted down...a deal which would have avoided all this inconvenience.

So, what you have is pretty much all that was left on the negotiating table.

It's time the DUP and others behaved like adults and took responsibility for a mess of their making.
6
MX
20/01/2021 11:11:49 9 1
bbc
NI have 7 ports and airports between itself and GB. Look at the logistical difficulties this is causing atm.
Now imagine over 270 crossings between NI and ROI. How could these possibly be managed?
I know you will say “It’s the EU’s problem”. But its not. It’s both the EU & UK’s problem under WTO rules. WTO don’t allow for differences outside of a trade deal. Hence the managed crossings.
BJ knows
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FF
20/01/2021 11:56:43 9 1
bbc
To quote the man himself - Boris

"There will be no border down the Irish Sea - over my dead body."

An absolute liar to the back teeth. It's Ironic the partitioning of Ireland cost Little Englands perfect Brexit.

You reap what you sow.
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20/01/2021 11:27:26 2 11
bbc
Are you seriously saying that the EU are not the ones imposing their trading conditions on NI ?

If not them, who ?
30
20/01/2021 11:57:10 7 3
bbc
In the same way the EU require these checks with any other non-EU country. It's there to protect their economy which is what Brexit decided to leave - aka a trading agreement.
85
20/01/2021 13:00:19 1 7
bbc
Where else is in the position of NI? Part of a non-EU country but trading as though it is part of the EU and subject to many of the EU rules?
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20/01/2021 11:23:16 1 7
bbc
So your happy that we can’t properly control our borders between NI and Ireland. People can freely travel when there is issues with Covid and a foreign government can do what they want. This could explain the high infection rate at the border counties!! Also immigrants can travel unchecked into NI and hopefully our system can control them not getting benefits or jobs!! Should be controlled!
31
20/01/2021 11:58:20 8 3
bbc
"we can’t properly control our borders between NI and Ireland."

That 'border' has been non existent for over 20 years. The majority on both sides of that border like it that way. It isn't changing again.

Ever.

in addition, 'immigrants' are more likely to head to Dublin rather than Belfast as the benefits system in the 26 counties is considerably more generous than that in the north.
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20/01/2021 11:58:33 23 8
bbc
George Osborne says the English won't care if NI leaves the UK.
He blames Unionists for defeating Theresa May's deal which imposed Boris' Irish Sea checks.
Says NI is heading for the exit door from the UK and because still in SM is heading for UI. It's economic prosperity depends on Dublin rather than London and the politics will follow and nobody in GB or elsewhere will care
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20/01/2021 12:06:37 17 8
bbc
I believe he said:

"By remaining in the EU single market, it is for all economic intents and purposes now slowly becoming part of a united Ireland. Its prosperity now depends on its relationship with Dublin (and Brussels), not London. The politics will follow"
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20/01/2021 16:41:22 4 2
bbc
Ironically despite DUP objections to the deal it may well in future years make NI one of the most attractive places for foreign investment in the UK , given that you have access to both the UK and ROI . Nicola Sturgen and the SNP are very unhappy that NI has had special advantageous treatment which they too would like. So as usual, it's not that clear cut.
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20/01/2021 11:31:06 11 1
bbc
"agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU"

So, Johnson is as responsible as the EU....after all, he agreed to it.

It takes two to tango, but, true to form you look to lay the blame at the wrong door.
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20/01/2021 11:34:40 0 8
bbc
Ones, is a plural, at least it was when I went to school.
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20/01/2021 12:09:32 8 1
bbc
You could very well have been implicating the EU as 'ones' given that it is a multinational political entity. My apologies for being so quick off the mark and thank you for at least acknowledging Johnson's hand in it.
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20/01/2021 11:52:24 9 6
bbc
Ballylagan is situate in Ballyclare, County Antrim. A place not known for its love of GAA & Gaeilge...if you get my drift.
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20/01/2021 11:59:13 4 3
bbc
Wow. I thought there had been some level of reconciliation in NI over the past years. Seems discrimination is still rife.
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20/01/2021 12:04:09 11 4
bbc
Not many 'Remainers' in Ballyclare.
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20/01/2021 11:59:13 4 3
bbc
Wow. I thought there had been some level of reconciliation in NI over the past years. Seems discrimination is still rife.
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20/01/2021 12:04:09 11 4
bbc
Not many 'Remainers' in Ballyclare.
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20/01/2021 12:40:44 5 4
bbc
Which is now why there's a border with the EU at Larne.
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20/01/2021 12:06:04 18 7
bbc
“Those whom the Gods wish to destroy, first they make mad “.
Hubris leads to Brexit which leads to our current predicament .
So we find ourselves entering terra incognita .
Enjoy !
Brexit reminds me of pensioners joining a gym . I admire their spirit but wonder about their sanity .
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20/01/2021 16:28:31 5 11
bbc
Self-satisfied, patronising and smug all in one post. Well done !
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20/01/2021 11:58:33 23 8
bbc
George Osborne says the English won't care if NI leaves the UK.
He blames Unionists for defeating Theresa May's deal which imposed Boris' Irish Sea checks.
Says NI is heading for the exit door from the UK and because still in SM is heading for UI. It's economic prosperity depends on Dublin rather than London and the politics will follow and nobody in GB or elsewhere will care
37
20/01/2021 12:06:37 17 8
bbc
I believe he said:

"By remaining in the EU single market, it is for all economic intents and purposes now slowly becoming part of a united Ireland. Its prosperity now depends on its relationship with Dublin (and Brussels), not London. The politics will follow"
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jNe
20/01/2021 14:03:13 9 2
bbc
He also literally said, 'Northern Ireland is already heading for the exit door.' so the original poster is correct, as is how he paraphrased what Osborne said.
187
20/01/2021 16:33:20 5 1
bbc
The freight is also following with Rosslare have 5 times the number of transports to europe for this time of the year. UK shot itself in the foot.
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20/01/2021 12:07:02 4 4
bbc
Adapt and survive . It is the only way .
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20/01/2021 12:07:14 5 5
bbc
Grow our own, what’s the problem for gods sake.
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20/01/2021 12:31:52 6 2
bbc
Grow up.
I bet you don't even live here.
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20/01/2021 11:34:40 0 8
bbc
Ones, is a plural, at least it was when I went to school.
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20/01/2021 12:09:32 8 1
bbc
You could very well have been implicating the EU as 'ones' given that it is a multinational political entity. My apologies for being so quick off the mark and thank you for at least acknowledging Johnson's hand in it.
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20/01/2021 11:01:05 5 11
bbc
This situation was agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU, and is being imposed by the EU, ergo they are the ones responsible.

We are however in a situation that was entirely predictable before the very first vote of the Brexit referendum. One can only assume that DUP support for Brexit, was one last throw of the dice in a numbers game that was closing in on them.

They gambled, and lost all.
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20/01/2021 12:15:08 6 5
bbc
'...being imposed by the EU,..'

Get a grip.
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20/01/2021 10:56:24 7 1
bbc
A system that is not designed for this situation sounds like more than a teething problem to me. Unforfunately it applies to 170 odd other countries not in the EU/CU/SM. That will not be changed quickly.
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20/01/2021 12:17:41 7 1
bbc
Not be changed quickly?
What do you want traders - like those quoted - to do while they wait? Sign on?
There's a 3 mnth grace period, this is going to get a lot worse.
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20/01/2021 12:49:01 9 0
bbc
Yes, it will get worse. And once customers find new suppliers, and are happy with them, you won't get them back easily. This is far more fundamental than many realise. But do not expect the EU to change the rules in a hurry because one of 170 third countries has shot itself in the foot. 169 others will want the same priviliges.
Irish Republicans strike again, if these terrorists and their supporters didn't threaten murder and mayhem on the border this situation would not happen, they have no shame. Removed
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FF
20/01/2021 12:25:19 8 3
bbc
Ahole1111 - Would you stop. Lmao

You are obsessed with Irish Republicans. I get it too that you are so lonely you will accept any interaction to make you feel relevant. I am not a Republican myself but hopefully you will find some on here to spend your day with.
47
20/01/2021 12:26:23 5 3
bbc
What have you been smoking?
48
20/01/2021 12:26:25 9 2
bbc
Dublin rule??????

??????????
53
20/01/2021 12:32:16 7 1
bbc
LOLZ! Boris Johnson is a 'terrorist'!

What a hoot!! BoJo is in the RA!
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20/01/2021 11:47:56 53 14
bbc
I voted remain - it wasn't broken and it didn't need fixing.
Where's the man who started all this - Cameron? Gave the vote to people who hadn't a clue what they were voting for...
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FF
20/01/2021 12:22:27 24 8
bbc
That mans a pariah now. Poor Dave offered the option to feed the growing nationalism and racism to leave the EU. Campaigned to stay and lost.

Dave will get a spud in the back of the head next time i see him.
Irish Republicans strike again, if these terrorists and their supporters didn't threaten murder and mayhem on the border this situation would not happen, they have no shame. Removed
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FF
20/01/2021 12:25:19 8 3
bbc
Ahole1111 - Would you stop. Lmao

You are obsessed with Irish Republicans. I get it too that you are so lonely you will accept any interaction to make you feel relevant. I am not a Republican myself but hopefully you will find some on here to spend your day with.
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20/01/2021 11:20:28 2 7
bbc
Yea you lost in a democratic vote and cause whinged enough my vote which was the one that won did absolutely nothing!!
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20/01/2021 12:25:28 7 2
bbc
What did you 'win'?
You voted Leave & got -
A border between you & Britain.
British traders need customs declarations when selling you something.
EU officials in the north telling the UK what to check.
Dublin has more say than London re: trade in the north of Ireland.

You think you 'won'?
I voted Remain & - as well as the above - still have FOM, access to Euro healthcare, etc.
I 'won'.
??????
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20/01/2021 12:46:18 1 5
bbc
In Northern Ireland everyone of us lost. All of us have FOM, Euro healthcare and so on if we want it but things are different and not for the better.
Irish Republicans strike again, if these terrorists and their supporters didn't threaten murder and mayhem on the border this situation would not happen, they have no shame. Removed
47
20/01/2021 12:26:23 5 3
bbc
What have you been smoking?
Irish Republicans strike again, if these terrorists and their supporters didn't threaten murder and mayhem on the border this situation would not happen, they have no shame. Removed
48
20/01/2021 12:26:25 9 2
bbc
Dublin rule??????

??????????
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20/01/2021 12:33:02 2 8
bbc
Lol, the Republican peanut gallery has arrived. The truth hurts and i hope you all enjoy the Terrorist Tax on goods in N.I, it was a fail much like your attack on the Helicopter.
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20/01/2021 11:23:16 1 7
bbc
So your happy that we can’t properly control our borders between NI and Ireland. People can freely travel when there is issues with Covid and a foreign government can do what they want. This could explain the high infection rate at the border counties!! Also immigrants can travel unchecked into NI and hopefully our system can control them not getting benefits or jobs!! Should be controlled!
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MX
20/01/2021 12:26:34 4 0
bbc
My whole point is that the Irish border would be unfeasible to manage in any way that would satisfy WTO rules for trade. The UK government took a pragmatic approach and went for the easier option that suits GB.
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20/01/2021 10:45:19 4 21
bbc
I voted out not separate us further from the UK and now to the gurns of Sin Fain. Southern Ireland is in Europe, NI isn’t therefore the border checks should be between NI and Ireland. My vote counted for nothing as being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Discrimination at the worst
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20/01/2021 12:29:01 5 2
bbc
But you voted for bvringing back control, controlling our borders, expanding our trading options and being rule makers rather than rule takers: now you have what you wanted.
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20/01/2021 11:47:56 53 14
bbc
I voted remain - it wasn't broken and it didn't need fixing.
Where's the man who started all this - Cameron? Gave the vote to people who hadn't a clue what they were voting for...
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20/01/2021 12:08:11 9 0
bbc
It started long before Cameron, he was just the fool who took the gamble.

I'd say the electorate "knew" what they were voting for. The problem was what one group knew was very different to another group.
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20/01/2021 12:07:14 5 5
bbc
Grow our own, what’s the problem for gods sake.
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20/01/2021 12:31:52 6 2
bbc
Grow up.
I bet you don't even live here.
Irish Republicans strike again, if these terrorists and their supporters didn't threaten murder and mayhem on the border this situation would not happen, they have no shame. Removed
53
20/01/2021 12:32:16 7 1
bbc
LOLZ! Boris Johnson is a 'terrorist'!

What a hoot!! BoJo is in the RA!
48
20/01/2021 12:26:25 9 2
bbc
Dublin rule??????

??????????
54
20/01/2021 12:33:02 2 8
bbc
Lol, the Republican peanut gallery has arrived. The truth hurts and i hope you all enjoy the Terrorist Tax on goods in N.I, it was a fail much like your attack on the Helicopter.
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20/01/2021 12:35:06 10 1
bbc
"the Terrorist Tax on goods in N.I"

LOLZ! There has been no change to my taxes, little phoney wannabe British Finbarr!

LMAO!
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20/01/2021 12:46:10 7 1
bbc
Is this really the best you have?
Dublin has more say in trade here than London.
You ignored the facts i posted - because you have nothing other than childish drivel to post.

You were discarded by your masters like the trash in the kitchen bin.
I know it hurts because you never stop whining?

Me, i couldn't be happier, for the reasons already mentioned (which you couldn't counter).

????????????
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20/01/2021 11:27:26 2 11
bbc
Are you seriously saying that the EU are not the ones imposing their trading conditions on NI ?

If not them, who ?
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MX
20/01/2021 12:34:13 6 2
bbc
It was a UK & EU (ROI) that came up with this solution to avoid trying to implement WTO rules at the border. So to blame the EU is just a rant. The UK couldn't trade on WTO without managing their border crossings.
BJ chose to put GB interests ahead of NI. As a sovereign nation the UK can and did do this. NI have no sovereignty
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20/01/2021 12:17:30 17 3
bbc
In the same interview, Patricia Gilbert also admitted to voting for Brexit. No point complaining about it now!
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20/01/2021 12:37:27 26 6
bbc
Exactly. You get what you pay for and poor old Patricia will just have to source her organic produce from 'down the road' if she wants to stay afloat.
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20/01/2021 12:57:00 7 1
bbc
Except we haven't left the EU. Therein lies the issue! For if we had there'd be a customs border between NI and ROI
54
20/01/2021 12:33:02 2 8
bbc
Lol, the Republican peanut gallery has arrived. The truth hurts and i hope you all enjoy the Terrorist Tax on goods in N.I, it was a fail much like your attack on the Helicopter.
57
20/01/2021 12:35:06 10 1
bbc
"the Terrorist Tax on goods in N.I"

LOLZ! There has been no change to my taxes, little phoney wannabe British Finbarr!

LMAO!
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20/01/2021 12:38:14 1 8
bbc
Lol those Taxes that you pay to the HMRC Nice to see you funding the British State, what's it like being a little EU boot licker.
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20/01/2021 11:34:08 10 3
bbc
You voted out. You had been warned by a legion of economists and legal experts of the ramifications. Too bad, it's a mess of your making and of others like you.

Nothing to do with the EU, Sinn Féin, Simon Coveney etc....it's all down to you and people like you.
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20/01/2021 12:35:33 0 5
bbc
It has something to do with the EU. NI is in this situation because of English balloons and those loyalist pillocks who support English neo-fascist groups. If each nation had voted like us we would still be in. However, the EU seem to think that a UI will now come easily with a little more kicking of unionists. I am one who is becoming more recalcitrant about a UI. The EU needs to ease up.
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20/01/2021 12:40:03 6 1
bbc
I disagree. The EU have to protect their own interests and the interests of the 400 million people whom they represent (which incidentally means NI too as we are de facto still 'in').

You just don't get it, do you? The EU is not in any way trying to expedite a UI.
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20/01/2021 15:04:27 4 1
bbc
'However, the EU seem to think that a UI will now come easily with a little more kicking of unionists'.

The only ppl 'kicking' unionists are they very people they idolise.
Unionists gloated that Leo Varadkar had been 'done over' by the EU & UK.
Now they've been 'done over' by the lying clown that they embarrassingly cheered to the rafters - & you claim the EU needs to 'ease up'?
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20/01/2021 11:28:12 7 2
bbc
Your sort love to miss-spell Sinn Fein, you think it's clever, but it only succeeds in making you look silly and childish
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FF
20/01/2021 12:36:06 5 1
bbc
He doesn't miss-spell it! He naturally struggles to spell it correctly.
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20/01/2021 12:17:30 17 3
bbc
In the same interview, Patricia Gilbert also admitted to voting for Brexit. No point complaining about it now!
60
20/01/2021 12:37:27 26 6
bbc
Exactly. You get what you pay for and poor old Patricia will just have to source her organic produce from 'down the road' if she wants to stay afloat.
65
20/01/2021 12:41:55 11 2
bbc
She could try the 26 counties or countries
57
20/01/2021 12:35:06 10 1
bbc
"the Terrorist Tax on goods in N.I"

LOLZ! There has been no change to my taxes, little phoney wannabe British Finbarr!

LMAO!
61
20/01/2021 12:38:14 1 8
bbc
Lol those Taxes that you pay to the HMRC Nice to see you funding the British State, what's it like being a little EU boot licker.
67
20/01/2021 12:43:22 7 1
bbc
Yes, while the UK has jurisdiction over the 6 counties HMRC can collect my taxes.

You still haven't explained this 'terrorist tax' though and how it will increase my Income Tax payments, my NI payments, the level of VAT on goods I purchase, the rates I pay for my house....

You have nothing....other than a 'blue' passport - LOLZ.
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FF
20/01/2021 12:44:54 8 2
bbc
Genuinely. All joking aside.

Are you OK??

Your comments are crazy. Seem to be drug induced or something.
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20/01/2021 12:53:19 7 1
bbc
'..what's it like being a little EU boot licker.'

Not as bad as a UK bootlicker, especially considering they listened to Leo & told you - & the gullible fools in the dup - to do one?

Paisley reckoned Leo was 'done over' by the EU. Now he's whining "What did we do to members on those benches over there to be screwed over by this protocol?”
You were shafted. I'm laughing, you're whining.
??????
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20/01/2021 11:23:16 1 7
bbc
So your happy that we can’t properly control our borders between NI and Ireland. People can freely travel when there is issues with Covid and a foreign government can do what they want. This could explain the high infection rate at the border counties!! Also immigrants can travel unchecked into NI and hopefully our system can control them not getting benefits or jobs!! Should be controlled!
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20/01/2021 12:39:27 1 2
bbc
The common travel area was supported by all sides early on. When a hard border was mooted it was explained that it would be for goods not people and the RoI's border with Schengen countries would be a bulwark against immigration. Even the DUP wouldn't have been quick to get rid of the CTA.
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20/01/2021 12:35:33 0 5
bbc
It has something to do with the EU. NI is in this situation because of English balloons and those loyalist pillocks who support English neo-fascist groups. If each nation had voted like us we would still be in. However, the EU seem to think that a UI will now come easily with a little more kicking of unionists. I am one who is becoming more recalcitrant about a UI. The EU needs to ease up.
63
20/01/2021 12:40:03 6 1
bbc
I disagree. The EU have to protect their own interests and the interests of the 400 million people whom they represent (which incidentally means NI too as we are de facto still 'in').

You just don't get it, do you? The EU is not in any way trying to expedite a UI.
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20/01/2021 12:53:40 1 4
bbc
I do get it. The EU would rather have a UI and will try to expedite getting one to remove any land border with GB. They are protecting the interests of the plutocracy by squeezing NI with onerous rules that GB will have to pay towards making them even less inclined to keep our feet under the table and making it more difficult for unionists to stay out of a UI. The EU crushed Greece.
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20/01/2021 12:04:09 11 4
bbc
Not many 'Remainers' in Ballyclare.
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20/01/2021 12:40:44 5 4
bbc
Which is now why there's a border with the EU at Larne.
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20/01/2021 12:44:54 8 2
bbc
I know...the irony of it.
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20/01/2021 12:37:27 26 6
bbc
Exactly. You get what you pay for and poor old Patricia will just have to source her organic produce from 'down the road' if she wants to stay afloat.
65
20/01/2021 12:41:55 11 2
bbc
She could try the 26 counties or countries
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20/01/2021 13:15:43 9 1
bbc
That's precisely what Steve Tomkins suggested in the above article. It's pretty obvious what Patricia needs to do.
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20/01/2021 11:28:12 7 2
bbc
Your sort love to miss-spell Sinn Fein, you think it's clever, but it only succeeds in making you look silly and childish
66
20/01/2021 12:28:54 1 5
bbc
I miss-spell it because I don’t care about a party that supported the IRA and has ex convicts in it!
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FF
20/01/2021 12:49:15 5 1
bbc
The IRA are gone man. What are you actually rambling on about anyway??

You are spilling all over the place.

On second thought "WeDontCare"
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20/01/2021 12:56:45 3 1
bbc
And how is your cunning plan working out for you?

Has SF disappeared?
Are they diminished in size?
Have you succeeded?

Lolz
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20/01/2021 12:38:14 1 8
bbc
Lol those Taxes that you pay to the HMRC Nice to see you funding the British State, what's it like being a little EU boot licker.
67
20/01/2021 12:43:22 7 1
bbc
Yes, while the UK has jurisdiction over the 6 counties HMRC can collect my taxes.

You still haven't explained this 'terrorist tax' though and how it will increase my Income Tax payments, my NI payments, the level of VAT on goods I purchase, the rates I pay for my house....

You have nothing....other than a 'blue' passport - LOLZ.
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20/01/2021 12:53:36 1 7
bbc
I've explained the terrorist tax before but you're too much of a EU boot licker to acknowledge it.

You have to pay your TAX to the British government, HAHAHA That diagonal red stripe in the Union Jack is the St Patricks Cross, We OWN N.Ireland, your just a Tax Slave for the British government, you have nothing but a green passport that the Real Irish allow you to have to make you feel Irish.
61
20/01/2021 12:38:14 1 8
bbc
Lol those Taxes that you pay to the HMRC Nice to see you funding the British State, what's it like being a little EU boot licker.
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FF
20/01/2021 12:44:54 8 2
bbc
Genuinely. All joking aside.

Are you OK??

Your comments are crazy. Seem to be drug induced or something.
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20/01/2021 12:46:36 8 2
bbc
LOL - drugs cost money. This poor chap is ranting about how hard done by he is, he can't afford them.

He's on the glue!
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20/01/2021 12:40:44 5 4
bbc
Which is now why there's a border with the EU at Larne.
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20/01/2021 12:44:54 8 2
bbc
I know...the irony of it.
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20/01/2021 12:46:42 2 3
bbc
Yep. couldnt make this stuff up. I expected the opposite, but the strength of politics and irrational thinking... one reason I left.
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20/01/2021 12:33:02 2 8
bbc
Lol, the Republican peanut gallery has arrived. The truth hurts and i hope you all enjoy the Terrorist Tax on goods in N.I, it was a fail much like your attack on the Helicopter.
70
20/01/2021 12:46:10 7 1
bbc
Is this really the best you have?
Dublin has more say in trade here than London.
You ignored the facts i posted - because you have nothing other than childish drivel to post.

You were discarded by your masters like the trash in the kitchen bin.
I know it hurts because you never stop whining?

Me, i couldn't be happier, for the reasons already mentioned (which you couldn't counter).

????????????
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20/01/2021 12:25:28 7 2
bbc
What did you 'win'?
You voted Leave & got -
A border between you & Britain.
British traders need customs declarations when selling you something.
EU officials in the north telling the UK what to check.
Dublin has more say than London re: trade in the north of Ireland.

You think you 'won'?
I voted Remain & - as well as the above - still have FOM, access to Euro healthcare, etc.
I 'won'.
??????
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20/01/2021 12:46:18 1 5
bbc
In Northern Ireland everyone of us lost. All of us have FOM, Euro healthcare and so on if we want it but things are different and not for the better.
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FF
20/01/2021 12:44:54 8 2
bbc
Genuinely. All joking aside.

Are you OK??

Your comments are crazy. Seem to be drug induced or something.
72
20/01/2021 12:46:36 8 2
bbc
LOL - drugs cost money. This poor chap is ranting about how hard done by he is, he can't afford them.

He's on the glue!
69
20/01/2021 12:44:54 8 2
bbc
I know...the irony of it.
73
20/01/2021 12:46:42 2 3
bbc
Yep. couldnt make this stuff up. I expected the opposite, but the strength of politics and irrational thinking... one reason I left.
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20/01/2021 12:48:43 16 2
bbc
' Steve Tomkins says he expects patterns of trade to change: '"Were I based in Dublin I would be making every effort to establish a market in the north." '

LOLZ
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20/01/2021 13:09:08 5 11
bbc
You could have done this anytime in the last 40 years....why didn’t you?.....maybe you were not making much of an effort really
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20/01/2021 12:17:41 7 1
bbc
Not be changed quickly?
What do you want traders - like those quoted - to do while they wait? Sign on?
There's a 3 mnth grace period, this is going to get a lot worse.
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20/01/2021 12:49:01 9 0
bbc
Yes, it will get worse. And once customers find new suppliers, and are happy with them, you won't get them back easily. This is far more fundamental than many realise. But do not expect the EU to change the rules in a hurry because one of 170 third countries has shot itself in the foot. 169 others will want the same priviliges.
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20/01/2021 13:11:00 11 1
bbc
I don't expect the EU to do anything.
Where we are is down to the people who made ridiculous claims about the wonderful benefits of leaving the EU.
The gullible who swallowed the lies & half-truths own this.
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20/01/2021 12:28:54 1 5
bbc
I miss-spell it because I don’t care about a party that supported the IRA and has ex convicts in it!
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FF
20/01/2021 12:49:15 5 1
bbc
The IRA are gone man. What are you actually rambling on about anyway??

You are spilling all over the place.

On second thought "WeDontCare"
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20/01/2021 12:41:04 7 4
bbc
Not only organic food being stopped to Northern Ireland for no reason.

Amazon and eBay sellers are blocking / stopping deliveries too.

And, it would appear that these actual items are located in Europe, which makes even less sense.
How can Amazon UK block a delivery from Amazon EU to NI (EU single market) and still deliver to GB (not EU single market). Somebody in Amazon needs to be sacked.
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20/01/2021 13:04:11 2 20
bbc
The UK should, just rip up the agreement with the EU and revert to No Deal. Then No Excuses.
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20/01/2021 13:05:32 10 0
bbc
May be the item passes through a GB warehouse/depot on its way from Eu . Possible solution for sender : reroute through the Republic of. Ireland
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20/01/2021 13:43:31 2 0
bbc
Because you are still in the Euro Union.......................forever
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20/01/2021 12:38:14 1 8
bbc
Lol those Taxes that you pay to the HMRC Nice to see you funding the British State, what's it like being a little EU boot licker.
78
20/01/2021 12:53:19 7 1
bbc
'..what's it like being a little EU boot licker.'

Not as bad as a UK bootlicker, especially considering they listened to Leo & told you - & the gullible fools in the dup - to do one?

Paisley reckoned Leo was 'done over' by the EU. Now he's whining "What did we do to members on those benches over there to be screwed over by this protocol?”
You were shafted. I'm laughing, you're whining.
??????
86
20/01/2021 13:00:47 1 7
bbc
Oh Sean Mc5hitbird did Leo not tell Sinn Fein to GTFO and laugh at their attempts to be the government of the Republic.
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20/01/2021 12:43:22 7 1
bbc
Yes, while the UK has jurisdiction over the 6 counties HMRC can collect my taxes.

You still haven't explained this 'terrorist tax' though and how it will increase my Income Tax payments, my NI payments, the level of VAT on goods I purchase, the rates I pay for my house....

You have nothing....other than a 'blue' passport - LOLZ.
79
20/01/2021 12:53:36 1 7
bbc
I've explained the terrorist tax before but you're too much of a EU boot licker to acknowledge it.

You have to pay your TAX to the British government, HAHAHA That diagonal red stripe in the Union Jack is the St Patricks Cross, We OWN N.Ireland, your just a Tax Slave for the British government, you have nothing but a green passport that the Real Irish allow you to have to make you feel Irish.
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20/01/2021 12:58:59 7 1
bbc
'We OWN N.Ireland,..'

If that's the case explain the eu presence in the north, telling the uk what to check.
Also explain how Dublin has more say on trading relations here than London has?

You don't like these facts, which is why your replies are just childish ad hominen drivel.
You were shafted.

The brits want out, they've thrown the towel in.
??????
100
20/01/2021 13:20:40 7 1
bbc
LOLZ - where do I begin? The receipts for the 'terrorist tax' got to the UK government who betrayed you (again).

The 'diagonal red stripe' isn't a stripe at all. It's the St Patrick's Saltire.

'You' own N Ireland? I doubt if you even own a bike, son.

As for being a 'tax slave'. All of us who work are...including the 230,000 Britons who live in Ireland and pay tax to Dublin.

LOL
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20/01/2021 13:22:41 7 1
bbc
By the way, Einstein....the Irish passport isn't green.

LMAO - phoney little Finbarr the wannabe Brit - LOLZ!
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FF
20/01/2021 13:34:58 6 0
bbc
Your Sectarianism is absolutely disgusting.

To quote Cyndi Lauper - "I see your true colours shining through"
63
20/01/2021 12:40:03 6 1
bbc
I disagree. The EU have to protect their own interests and the interests of the 400 million people whom they represent (which incidentally means NI too as we are de facto still 'in').

You just don't get it, do you? The EU is not in any way trying to expedite a UI.
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20/01/2021 12:53:40 1 4
bbc
I do get it. The EU would rather have a UI and will try to expedite getting one to remove any land border with GB. They are protecting the interests of the plutocracy by squeezing NI with onerous rules that GB will have to pay towards making them even less inclined to keep our feet under the table and making it more difficult for unionists to stay out of a UI. The EU crushed Greece.
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MX
20/01/2021 13:03:37 5 0
bbc
The EU didn’t negotiate with NI. They did with the UK. So " squeezing NI with onerous rules" is just a staement of falsehoods.
The UK agree to these conditions so that GB would be better off.

Saying the EU ‘did this, did that’, is just nonsense. The UK ‘did this, did that’ Would be a better representation of what has happened.
Protecting GB is the most important thing. NI is just an add-on.
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20/01/2021 13:31:10 6 1
bbc
"will try to expedite getting one to remove any land border with GB"

What drivel. Absolute baloney, lad.

"squeezing NI with onerous rules"

Either the border is at the Irish Sea or it's along a 500km line of demarcation which lost all relevance years ago and would be impossible to monitor or police.

Tough luck, son. You can't have it both ways and the chickens are coming home to roost.
66
20/01/2021 12:28:54 1 5
bbc
I miss-spell it because I don’t care about a party that supported the IRA and has ex convicts in it!
81
20/01/2021 12:56:45 3 1
bbc
And how is your cunning plan working out for you?

Has SF disappeared?
Are they diminished in size?
Have you succeeded?

Lolz
56
20/01/2021 12:17:30 17 3
bbc
In the same interview, Patricia Gilbert also admitted to voting for Brexit. No point complaining about it now!
82
20/01/2021 12:57:00 7 1
bbc
Except we haven't left the EU. Therein lies the issue! For if we had there'd be a customs border between NI and ROI
14
20/01/2021 11:31:06 11 1
bbc
"agreed between Boris Johnson and the EU"

So, Johnson is as responsible as the EU....after all, he agreed to it.

It takes two to tango, but, true to form you look to lay the blame at the wrong door.
83
20/01/2021 12:57:14 2 6
bbc
Yes, the EU is as responsible as Boris. Thank you.
92
20/01/2021 13:06:44 6 0
bbc
Ppl like Johnson crowed about how 'they need us more than we need them' yet he came away with very little.
Dublin has more say in the norths trading than london does & the eu are telling the uk what to check.
I love it!
96
20/01/2021 13:00:54 0 5
bbc
Light the fuse, get the popcorn and watch the bigots get at each other!! This is who NI is a horrible place with small minded people!
79
20/01/2021 12:53:36 1 7
bbc
I've explained the terrorist tax before but you're too much of a EU boot licker to acknowledge it.

You have to pay your TAX to the British government, HAHAHA That diagonal red stripe in the Union Jack is the St Patricks Cross, We OWN N.Ireland, your just a Tax Slave for the British government, you have nothing but a green passport that the Real Irish allow you to have to make you feel Irish.
84
20/01/2021 12:58:59 7 1
bbc
'We OWN N.Ireland,..'

If that's the case explain the eu presence in the north, telling the uk what to check.
Also explain how Dublin has more say on trading relations here than London has?

You don't like these facts, which is why your replies are just childish ad hominen drivel.
You were shafted.

The brits want out, they've thrown the towel in.
??????
90
20/01/2021 13:04:55 1 6
bbc
Oh Brendy your owned by the Brits, Republicans in N.I are an embarressment to the Real Irish, thats the real reason Sinn Fein have been to to gtfo by Leo.
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20/01/2021 11:57:10 7 3
bbc
In the same way the EU require these checks with any other non-EU country. It's there to protect their economy which is what Brexit decided to leave - aka a trading agreement.
85
20/01/2021 13:00:19 1 7
bbc
Where else is in the position of NI? Part of a non-EU country but trading as though it is part of the EU and subject to many of the EU rules?
78
20/01/2021 12:53:19 7 1
bbc
'..what's it like being a little EU boot licker.'

Not as bad as a UK bootlicker, especially considering they listened to Leo & told you - & the gullible fools in the dup - to do one?

Paisley reckoned Leo was 'done over' by the EU. Now he's whining "What did we do to members on those benches over there to be screwed over by this protocol?”
You were shafted. I'm laughing, you're whining.
??????
86
20/01/2021 13:00:47 1 7
bbc
Oh Sean Mc5hitbird did Leo not tell Sinn Fein to GTFO and laugh at their attempts to be the government of the Republic.
19
20/01/2021 11:40:33 42 11
bbc
If organic food is too difficult and costly to source from Britain then source from other EU countries.

It's really that simple. The NI Protocol allows for EU produce, particularly that produced in the 26 counties to pass unhindered into the 6 counties.

Stop gurning, Brexiters...you voted for this.
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20/01/2021 13:03:02 12 23
bbc
who voted on a customs border down the Irish sea? That was not on the ballot paper. The UK was to leave as one unit, but it hasn't so Brexit has not be delivered. It's simply a fudge
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20/01/2021 13:29:08 17 1
bbc
What did you think leaving the EU and the single market would lead to. Borders and tariffs!! That's why the single market was so advantageous. I presume you would have preferred a hard border and customs post between North & South
119
20/01/2021 13:35:03 16 0
bbc
Last year brexit had already cost the equivalent of building the ISS.
Was building a space station an option on the ballot paper as that at least would have ben more use than a new border.
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20/01/2021 13:48:11 6 2
bbc
Lots of things weren't on the ballot paper, lad.

How long do you think a ballot paper should be? About as long as 'War & Peace'?
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jNe
20/01/2021 14:00:32 14 1
bbc
@Regarder. There's already a physical border down the Irish Sea anyway though. It's called the Irish Sea. So your preference is literally that we were boxed in on both sides, something worse than the bad situation we already have. A further demonstration of why there shouldn't have been a populist vote in the first place. I don't want illogical people making my decisions.
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20/01/2021 14:50:37 18 1
bbc
“who voted on a customs border down the Irish sea? That was not on the ballot paper”

See, this was/is the problem with Brexit.

People voting for something they clearly had no comprehension off.
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21/01/2021 13:54:26 0 1
bbc
This is not the brexit l voted for,but l hope the shit they are giving us at the ports is being returned to them,or are we being the usual playing by the rules put up and shut up uk we always were?
80
20/01/2021 12:53:40 1 4
bbc
I do get it. The EU would rather have a UI and will try to expedite getting one to remove any land border with GB. They are protecting the interests of the plutocracy by squeezing NI with onerous rules that GB will have to pay towards making them even less inclined to keep our feet under the table and making it more difficult for unionists to stay out of a UI. The EU crushed Greece.
88
MX
20/01/2021 13:03:37 5 0
bbc
The EU didn’t negotiate with NI. They did with the UK. So " squeezing NI with onerous rules" is just a staement of falsehoods.
The UK agree to these conditions so that GB would be better off.

Saying the EU ‘did this, did that’, is just nonsense. The UK ‘did this, did that’ Would be a better representation of what has happened.
Protecting GB is the most important thing. NI is just an add-on.
114
20/01/2021 13:33:07 4 1
bbc
Typical right wing Brexit doublethink - everyone else is to blame except them.

Like a drunk who crosses the street without looking, gets knocked down and then blames the driver of the car which hit them.
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20/01/2021 12:41:04 7 4
bbc
Not only organic food being stopped to Northern Ireland for no reason.

Amazon and eBay sellers are blocking / stopping deliveries too.

And, it would appear that these actual items are located in Europe, which makes even less sense.
How can Amazon UK block a delivery from Amazon EU to NI (EU single market) and still deliver to GB (not EU single market). Somebody in Amazon needs to be sacked.
89
20/01/2021 13:04:11 2 20
bbc
The UK should, just rip up the agreement with the EU and revert to No Deal. Then No Excuses.
95
20/01/2021 13:12:05 11 1
bbc
Lolz

You don't really understand much about this, do you?
125
20/01/2021 13:39:00 9 0
bbc
Or just rejoin and admit it was a mistake. Any deal with the EU would be better than what we have now and would allow us freedom of movement and the ECJ too.
141
20/01/2021 13:54:22 8 1
bbc
LOLZ - good one Ian!

Yes, WTO rules would be great for the UK economy! You would still have a border in the Irish Sea 'coz that 500km line of demarcation which cuts through the north can't be policed or monitored.
153
20/01/2021 14:20:09 3 1
bbc
Even worst nightmare, bet you don't run a business
84
20/01/2021 12:58:59 7 1
bbc
'We OWN N.Ireland,..'

If that's the case explain the eu presence in the north, telling the uk what to check.
Also explain how Dublin has more say on trading relations here than London has?

You don't like these facts, which is why your replies are just childish ad hominen drivel.
You were shafted.

The brits want out, they've thrown the towel in.
??????
90
20/01/2021 13:04:55 1 6
bbc
Oh Brendy your owned by the Brits, Republicans in N.I are an embarressment to the Real Irish, thats the real reason Sinn Fein have been to to gtfo by Leo.
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20/01/2021 13:23:26 4 1
bbc
You don't like those facts sonny?
Dublin rule ????????????
77
20/01/2021 12:41:04 7 4
bbc
Not only organic food being stopped to Northern Ireland for no reason.

Amazon and eBay sellers are blocking / stopping deliveries too.

And, it would appear that these actual items are located in Europe, which makes even less sense.
How can Amazon UK block a delivery from Amazon EU to NI (EU single market) and still deliver to GB (not EU single market). Somebody in Amazon needs to be sacked.
91
20/01/2021 13:05:32 10 0
bbc
May be the item passes through a GB warehouse/depot on its way from Eu . Possible solution for sender : reroute through the Republic of. Ireland
83
20/01/2021 12:57:14 2 6
bbc
Yes, the EU is as responsible as Boris. Thank you.
92
20/01/2021 13:06:44 6 0
bbc
Ppl like Johnson crowed about how 'they need us more than we need them' yet he came away with very little.
Dublin has more say in the norths trading than london does & the eu are telling the uk what to check.
I love it!
25
20/01/2021 11:52:24 9 6
bbc
Ballylagan is situate in Ballyclare, County Antrim. A place not known for its love of GAA & Gaeilge...if you get my drift.
93
20/01/2021 13:09:10 3 3
bbc
Ok. Ballyclare is hillbilly heaven .... so what ......at least it is not Larne .
104
20/01/2021 13:24:00 3 2
bbc
It's about 20 minutes away by car.
75
20/01/2021 12:49:01 9 0
bbc
Yes, it will get worse. And once customers find new suppliers, and are happy with them, you won't get them back easily. This is far more fundamental than many realise. But do not expect the EU to change the rules in a hurry because one of 170 third countries has shot itself in the foot. 169 others will want the same priviliges.
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20/01/2021 13:11:00 11 1
bbc
I don't expect the EU to do anything.
Where we are is down to the people who made ridiculous claims about the wonderful benefits of leaving the EU.
The gullible who swallowed the lies & half-truths own this.
89
20/01/2021 13:04:11 2 20
bbc
The UK should, just rip up the agreement with the EU and revert to No Deal. Then No Excuses.
95
20/01/2021 13:12:05 11 1
bbc
Lolz

You don't really understand much about this, do you?
83
20/01/2021 12:57:14 2 6
bbc
Yes, the EU is as responsible as Boris. Thank you.
96
20/01/2021 13:00:54 0 5
bbc
Light the fuse, get the popcorn and watch the bigots get at each other!! This is who NI is a horrible place with small minded people!
108
20/01/2021 13:26:19 4 0
bbc
"watch the bigots get at each other"

LOLZ - good one!
162
20/01/2021 14:54:08 3 1
bbc
Do you live here?
If you do, are you one of the 'small minded people'?
If you're not, why are you here, commenting on something relating to this place & it's small minded population?
97
20/01/2021 13:07:09 3 12
bbc
The EU have shown that they cannot be trusted again....time to introduce article 16 then.
102
20/01/2021 13:22:48 3 0
bbc
Deal done . Neither London nor Dublin want a land frontier . Too expensive, too much hassle . The London establishment have no long term interest in retaining NI . The Dublin establishment are more their sort of people . The people of NI are just collateral damage and no amount of protesting will reopen the December 2020 agreement and associated protocol.
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20/01/2021 13:35:34 6 1
bbc
Nah, it isn't really, Chloe. You should read George Osborne's article in the Evening Standard.

LOLZ
126
20/01/2021 13:39:33 7 1
bbc
The EU can't be trusted?
What kind of torture did they inflict on the clown to ensure he agreed to -
EU officials in the UK, telling you what to check?
UK traders needing customs declarations when selling to UK customers?
Dublin having more say in trading relations in part of the 'UK' than London has?

I voted Remain.
You think you 'won'?
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20/01/2021 14:03:45 4 0
bbc
Really - the EU pushed for the softest of Brexits to prevent this sort of chaos and the DUP & ERG just blindly followed their ideology. The next steps are Scottish Independence and a United Ireland.
65
20/01/2021 12:41:55 11 2
bbc
She could try the 26 counties or countries
98
20/01/2021 13:15:43 9 1
bbc
That's precisely what Steve Tomkins suggested in the above article. It's pretty obvious what Patricia needs to do.
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20/01/2021 12:48:43 16 2
bbc
' Steve Tomkins says he expects patterns of trade to change: '"Were I based in Dublin I would be making every effort to establish a market in the north." '

LOLZ
99
20/01/2021 13:09:08 5 11
bbc
You could have done this anytime in the last 40 years....why didn’t you?.....maybe you were not making much of an effort really
130
20/01/2021 13:42:45 7 2
bbc
Dublin rule in the north of Ireland.
????????
Customs declarations????
'Do i have to check this container Pierre? ????

'They need us more than we need them' ??
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20/01/2021 13:51:45 7 1
bbc
Oh dear...Chloe didn't read the article.

Quelle surprise!
79
20/01/2021 12:53:36 1 7
bbc
I've explained the terrorist tax before but you're too much of a EU boot licker to acknowledge it.

You have to pay your TAX to the British government, HAHAHA That diagonal red stripe in the Union Jack is the St Patricks Cross, We OWN N.Ireland, your just a Tax Slave for the British government, you have nothing but a green passport that the Real Irish allow you to have to make you feel Irish.
100
20/01/2021 13:20:40 7 1
bbc
LOLZ - where do I begin? The receipts for the 'terrorist tax' got to the UK government who betrayed you (again).

The 'diagonal red stripe' isn't a stripe at all. It's the St Patrick's Saltire.

'You' own N Ireland? I doubt if you even own a bike, son.

As for being a 'tax slave'. All of us who work are...including the 230,000 Britons who live in Ireland and pay tax to Dublin.

LOL
109
20/01/2021 13:27:15 5 1
bbc
He'll be back to call you something like 'smelly feet'.
If he's a typical unionist is it any wonder they got hung out to dry by their masters.
I'm genuinely laughing at his posts, he has nothing other than whining about 'republicans'.
Sad.
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20/01/2021 17:01:46 0 5
bbc
Lolz so much salt from failed Republicans.