Covid: 'No furlough because they shut the company'
20/01/2021 | news | business | 559
Out-of-date tax systems mean people are falling through the cracks for help, MPs say.
Time for employees to put a sock in it and stop commenting. You clearly havent got a clue. Its the risk takers that will drag us out of the economic mess we are about to descend in to. Not you. You just take your furlough, or do your job and stop the whining about the tiny tax advantage small biz owners get for the enormous risk they take to provide you with a job. We are sick and tired of it. Removed
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20/01/2021 12:51:33 38 29
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Clap Clap Clap .... Oddly, this page doesn't seem to be as badly infiltrated by Socialism as is the normal on this site !
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20/01/2021 13:15:42 11 14
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If the 'risk takers' are that gifted I'm sure they'll survive. It is, after all, why they keep saying they justify large salaries.

But sadly I fear they're already banging on Boris' door demanding the 48 hour week and break times come under more pressure.
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20/01/2021 13:18:59 15 6
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Yes let's blame the people who do the work, not the mechanisms of the antiquated tax system.

Bit weird you want to attack them and not Amazon, who did rather well in 2020 thank you very much. Each to their own...
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20/01/2021 13:24:52 8 6
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You've been found out mate. At least accept it gracefully and take comfort in what you made while it lasted. Hopefully HMRC will wake up and we won't go back to those times.
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20/01/2021 13:25:49 12 1
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I don't think it really helps, turning on each other.
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20/01/2021 13:29:03 10 6
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No. It is the people who pay the just amount of tax that keep the country going. Tax is what helps the country pay it's way in the world. Not people doing what they can to pay at little as possible.
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20/01/2021 13:34:24 2 4
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Well said.
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20/01/2021 14:06:58 1 1
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No it is time employers paid more tax so we can increase benefits for those not fortunate enough to have a job...
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20/01/2021 14:02:43 2 1
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If businesses are struggling, it can't have been a very good idea to start with. Risk vs Reward. As for freelances, you wanted control, now you have all the control you ever wanted - completely self-reliant.
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20/01/2021 15:23:02 1 0
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yes and with Risk there is reward, but ultimately there is failure otherwise there is no risk! This is about tax structures for employement not about risking ones capital! The will be some soul searching by freelancers on what is the right structure for themselves to gain income.
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20/01/2021 16:06:22 2 2
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A lot of people set up companies and have employed only themselves. All have taken advantage of the furlough scheme.
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20/01/2021 16:23:43 2 0
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Exploiters, we need protecting from egotistical narcissistic predators like yourself. Dangerous, deluded and with a massive self entitlement complex.
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20/01/2021 16:39:03 1 0
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I agree, then again this is the BBC so handouts are obviously the order of the day and trying to help doesnt figure, why would it...
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20/01/2021 16:46:03 2 2
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What a delightful employer you are. Anybody who is employed by you is extremely lucky, and should bow in gratitude at your generosity.

How dare anyone criticise a legend like you, who runs his business solely to employ the less well off, with no personal gain. You truly are "special".

From a business owner employing 15 people, that has run throughout the pandemic.
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20/01/2021 19:21:26 0 0
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I don't work for a 'small business', have never been furloughed or claimed any benefits, and don't employ someone to ensure I pay next to no tax. As for risk taking, when you frack it up you just close the biz and open a new one.
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20/01/2021 19:32:01 0 0
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What an arrogant ignorant fool you are...

Those "risk takers" as you call them with employees would not be making any money if it wasn't for their employees...

So YOU put a sock in it and shut your ignorant gob and remember that without those employees you'd make sod all you arrogant pretentious imbecile and be grateful anyone wants to work for a self serving foul person like you...
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20/01/2021 12:50:45 41 10
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It seems so unfair. As a director of my own small limited company and working from home for the last 11 years I too have "fallen through the gaps" My business is linked directly to the hospitality industry so there is no money coming in at all and yet because I don't pay commercial rates I can't make a claim. Can't even furlough myself!. It's brutal, really brutal.
No, you haven't ... You are getting back what you've paid in for the last 11 years ... Sounds like that's a big, fat zero ! Removed
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20/01/2021 13:49:22 1 0
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Interested to hear how you came along the figure of Zero? NI, tax on dividends, corporation tax, workplace pension payments, employers NI need I go on??
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20/01/2021 12:55:53 10 9
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I will give you 1 example , window company earns £150,000 a year, £50,000 paid through bank the rest in cash .He pays his 2 window installers , who also claim benefits £250 a week each no tax paid , he only pays tax on the bank payments and says he paid another £10,000 in cash . Typical self employed , just here'd he's now moaning because no one once to pay him in cash anymore .Time HMRC caught .
I am not self-employed you ignorant arrogant and pompous English idiot. I am a Limited Company Director of a company that has been established for over 20 years. We are no fly by knight, like the company you work for, we are a highly profitable enterprise that claims NOTHING from this Government, NOTHING. So say again, your ignorance as a peoples in England knows no boundaries. You are not liked. Removed
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20/01/2021 12:54:58 67 44
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80% of the salary you paid yourself from your Ltd Company would have been available for furlough payments IF, in the last 3 years, you'd actually paid yourself a salary and the tax/NI that goes with it !!!
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20/01/2021 17:43:21 2 1
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And the people who use them and pay cash are complicit in the tax evasion.
its not up to a customer to ensure the company/person they pay for a service is not tax avoiding. otherwise, everyone in the uk is guilty after all we all (should) be paying our tv licence and many of the BBC workers have be shown to use tax avoidance measures should i ring up the police and inform them you are guilty of tax avoidance of course not fool
go learn some law not spout epic fail
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20/01/2021 18:25:23 0 0
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You seem very angry.
Why are construction sites still open during lockdown yet schools are closed? This lockdown is a farce. Screw the Tory scum ?? Removed
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20/01/2021 17:17:58 2 2
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If it is so terrible, why do it? The reality is that many many people choose to do it and go arround telling everyone that its great, more control, more money, less tax, etc etc. Maybe when this is all over, encorrage people like you not to lord it over everyone "oh im a company director dont you know". I bet you have said that, and I bet the person you said it to thought you were a muppet.
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20/01/2021 17:17:58 2 2
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If it is so terrible, why do it? The reality is that many many people choose to do it and go arround telling everyone that its great, more control, more money, less tax, etc etc. Maybe when this is all over, encorrage people like you not to lord it over everyone "oh im a company director dont you know". I bet you have said that, and I bet the person you said it to thought you were a muppet.
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