Mobile networks to make Oak lessons site data-free
19/01/2021 | news | technology | 34
The Oak National Academy provides educational resources for pupils in England learning from home.
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19/01/2021 16:54:02 5 1
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Many make social media free.
It would be good to make sites beneficial to children's education free
I hope all companies offer this to help during lockdown.
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19/01/2021 16:57:03 12 1
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That's a cute cat.
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19/01/2021 17:13:43 2 8
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I assume they think every household have a device with a sim slot for the mobile data, quite expensive for poorer households.
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20/01/2021 09:57:04 0 1
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You only need one device and share your data as a hotspot, to any other device it is no different than wifi. You can move it around to improve the connection and often mobile data with an unlimited plan is cheaper and faster than broadband.
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19/01/2021 17:24:13 4 7
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Tbh why should private companies like BT have to provide their services for free? Are amazon delivering educational books to students for free?
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19/01/2021 18:09:13 6 0
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Well they could be ... https://smile.amazon.co.uk/
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19/01/2021 19:25:09 5 0
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Amazon does a lot more than you think, they along with the other media giants do a lot of charitable and educational stuff that don't get a lot of publicity
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20/01/2021 09:55:35 0 0
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BT charge a lot for a sub par service. Other mobile carriers provide free data on services like Netflix, Spotify and Youtube, so why not extend it to something useful. It would work out for them as people will switch to the better provider, they get more customers and more profit. That's why private companies should do it - maybe you should visit the site, you might learn something.
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19/01/2021 17:56:54 6 4
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The headline to this story doesn't seem to make sense. "Mobile networks to make Oak lessons site data-free" suggests that the website is to be cleared of data, not that charges for using it will be withdrawn. Maybe someone should have done some proof-reading before pressing the 'publish' button?
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19/01/2021 17:58:44 0 6
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so they're taking all the data off it?
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19/01/2021 17:24:13 4 7
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Tbh why should private companies like BT have to provide their services for free? Are amazon delivering educational books to students for free?
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19/01/2021 18:09:13 6 0
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Well they could be ... https://smile.amazon.co.uk/
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19/01/2021 18:17:24 1 3
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It's a shame more can't be done and on a permanent basis. The internet should be available to all and it will pay dividends.
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19/01/2021 19:20:12 5 4
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It could have been hut folks decided to vote for the party that enabled a certain other important event rather than the one that proposed internet availability, nothing is free though, the taxpayer pays for universal access and that is most people
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19/01/2021 19:05:24 2 0
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Eggland only!
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19/01/2021 18:17:24 1 3
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It's a shame more can't be done and on a permanent basis. The internet should be available to all and it will pay dividends.
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19/01/2021 19:20:12 5 4
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It could have been hut folks decided to vote for the party that enabled a certain other important event rather than the one that proposed internet availability, nothing is free though, the taxpayer pays for universal access and that is most people
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19/01/2021 17:24:13 4 7
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Tbh why should private companies like BT have to provide their services for free? Are amazon delivering educational books to students for free?
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19/01/2021 19:25:09 5 0
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Amazon does a lot more than you think, they along with the other media giants do a lot of charitable and educational stuff that don't get a lot of publicity
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20/01/2021 01:23:58 1 2
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Showing it can be made to work the days of schools herding together disease hosts is numbered.
Far better not to be using daft mobile devices and get proper broadband in every home, free to some degree for all. Now who might have had a sensible policy like that recently!
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20/01/2021 07:03:17 3 0
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What is wrong with using a mobile device? My 6 YO daughter has all sorts of educational apps on her tablet that don't exist on desktop PCs and the touch screen makes it easy for her to use. Having broadband won't make the devices any different and is actually more expensive. My monthly phone plan with data is £10.
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20/01/2021 09:46:49 1 1
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I have broadband 200Mbps, I also have "unlimited" 4G on my phone as it was dirt cheap, my phone speed is sometimes faster than my broadband and definitely faster than the majority of the "broadband" out there. Oh you also forget that the majority of peoples data on broadband is capped as they are on the cheap providers that piggy back off BT
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20/01/2021 10:17:26 0 0
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As usual, you don't like it, because it involves people leaving their homes, so it must be rubbish.

Do you really want whole generations growing up who have never met anyone outside their family in person?

And it may come as a shock to you, but it is entirely possible to use these "daft mobile devices" onwhat you call proper broadband
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20/01/2021 01:23:58 1 2
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Showing it can be made to work the days of schools herding together disease hosts is numbered.
Far better not to be using daft mobile devices and get proper broadband in every home, free to some degree for all. Now who might have had a sensible policy like that recently!
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20/01/2021 07:03:17 3 0
bbc
What is wrong with using a mobile device? My 6 YO daughter has all sorts of educational apps on her tablet that don't exist on desktop PCs and the touch screen makes it easy for her to use. Having broadband won't make the devices any different and is actually more expensive. My monthly phone plan with data is £10.
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20/01/2021 08:03:56 2 1
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Lazy parenting. Your child, educated by Disney.
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20/01/2021 07:04:59 0 0
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Great move but not all younger children (especially those with special needs) will engage with particular sites. I had to find alternative sources during the first lockdown.
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20/01/2021 07:06:49 0 0
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I'd they can detect traffic from certain sites, I hope they have thought about all the cloud hosted resources these sites might use. Like AWS for images and videos. How will they not what cloud hosted data will need to be free?
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20/01/2021 09:43:42 0 0
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AWS is nothing to do with the mobile operators, this is about providing free access to customers of mobile access i.e. you, not about providing free access by Amazon to their customer; Oak
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20/01/2021 07:03:17 3 0
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What is wrong with using a mobile device? My 6 YO daughter has all sorts of educational apps on her tablet that don't exist on desktop PCs and the touch screen makes it easy for her to use. Having broadband won't make the devices any different and is actually more expensive. My monthly phone plan with data is £10.
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20/01/2021 08:03:56 2 1
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Lazy parenting. Your child, educated by Disney.
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20/01/2021 09:48:38 1 0
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Lazy parenting if they use their phone for just Disney, but for education? Isn't sending children to schools lazy parenting as well then and free day care so the parents can get a break and watch TV/work?
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20/01/2021 10:12:49 0 0
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At least they are being educated....
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20/01/2021 08:37:21 0 4
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Well, that's swell and all, but, as Boris says we'll all be immunised and back to school next month, isn't this a bit like bolting the gate after the horse has gone...? Maybe if this happened 10 months ago it would actually be of real benefit...
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20/01/2021 09:41:58 1 1
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Boris says a lot of things, most of which he does a U turn on. Immunised by next month? more like next year!
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20/01/2021 08:37:21 0 4
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Well, that's swell and all, but, as Boris says we'll all be immunised and back to school next month, isn't this a bit like bolting the gate after the horse has gone...? Maybe if this happened 10 months ago it would actually be of real benefit...
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20/01/2021 09:41:58 1 1
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Boris says a lot of things, most of which he does a U turn on. Immunised by next month? more like next year!
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20/01/2021 07:06:49 0 0
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I'd they can detect traffic from certain sites, I hope they have thought about all the cloud hosted resources these sites might use. Like AWS for images and videos. How will they not what cloud hosted data will need to be free?
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20/01/2021 09:43:42 0 0
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AWS is nothing to do with the mobile operators, this is about providing free access to customers of mobile access i.e. you, not about providing free access by Amazon to their customer; Oak
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20/01/2021 10:48:31 1 0
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I believe the OP was referring to sites having 3rd party hosting arrangements for some of their content.
Do you think everything you see on bbc.co.uk/news is hosted there? Guess again, especially java eg scorecardreasearch.com and chartbeat.com from just this page.

If BBC was free via you mobile, the 3rd party content wouldn't be.
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20/01/2021 01:23:58 1 2
bbc
Showing it can be made to work the days of schools herding together disease hosts is numbered.
Far better not to be using daft mobile devices and get proper broadband in every home, free to some degree for all. Now who might have had a sensible policy like that recently!
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20/01/2021 09:46:49 1 1
bbc
I have broadband 200Mbps, I also have "unlimited" 4G on my phone as it was dirt cheap, my phone speed is sometimes faster than my broadband and definitely faster than the majority of the "broadband" out there. Oh you also forget that the majority of peoples data on broadband is capped as they are on the cheap providers that piggy back off BT
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20/01/2021 08:03:56 2 1
bbc
Lazy parenting. Your child, educated by Disney.
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20/01/2021 09:48:38 1 0
bbc
Lazy parenting if they use their phone for just Disney, but for education? Isn't sending children to schools lazy parenting as well then and free day care so the parents can get a break and watch TV/work?
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19/01/2021 17:24:13 4 7
bbc
Tbh why should private companies like BT have to provide their services for free? Are amazon delivering educational books to students for free?
22
20/01/2021 09:55:35 0 0
bbc
BT charge a lot for a sub par service. Other mobile carriers provide free data on services like Netflix, Spotify and Youtube, so why not extend it to something useful. It would work out for them as people will switch to the better provider, they get more customers and more profit. That's why private companies should do it - maybe you should visit the site, you might learn something.
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19/01/2021 17:13:43 2 8
bbc
I assume they think every household have a device with a sim slot for the mobile data, quite expensive for poorer households.
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20/01/2021 09:57:04 0 1
bbc
You only need one device and share your data as a hotspot, to any other device it is no different than wifi. You can move it around to improve the connection and often mobile data with an unlimited plan is cheaper and faster than broadband.
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20/01/2021 09:58:10 3 1
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But who wants to do schoolwork on a phone?
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20/01/2021 10:07:49 2 1
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Accessing websites through mobile data has to be the most expensive and inefficient ways of doing things.

Going down the all mobile route i.e. no landline, can be costly in the long run.

More to do with having the latest fashionable phone than economics.
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20/01/2021 12:04:33 0 0
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Oh. Thanks.
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20/01/2021 14:01:49 0 0
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Not necessarily, whether it is via landline , cable or mobile the data is the same, ones and zeros, sometimes mobile can beat the other two and vice-versa, my elder daughters phone usually provides more speed as a hotspot than her actual cable connection using wi-fi does
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20/01/2021 08:03:56 2 1
bbc
Lazy parenting. Your child, educated by Disney.
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20/01/2021 10:12:49 0 0
bbc
At least they are being educated....
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20/01/2021 01:23:58 1 2
bbc
Showing it can be made to work the days of schools herding together disease hosts is numbered.
Far better not to be using daft mobile devices and get proper broadband in every home, free to some degree for all. Now who might have had a sensible policy like that recently!
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20/01/2021 10:17:26 0 0
bbc
As usual, you don't like it, because it involves people leaving their homes, so it must be rubbish.

Do you really want whole generations growing up who have never met anyone outside their family in person?

And it may come as a shock to you, but it is entirely possible to use these "daft mobile devices" onwhat you call proper broadband
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20/01/2021 09:43:42 0 0
bbc
AWS is nothing to do with the mobile operators, this is about providing free access to customers of mobile access i.e. you, not about providing free access by Amazon to their customer; Oak
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20/01/2021 10:48:31 1 0
bbc
I believe the OP was referring to sites having 3rd party hosting arrangements for some of their content.
Do you think everything you see on bbc.co.uk/news is hosted there? Guess again, especially java eg scorecardreasearch.com and chartbeat.com from just this page.

If BBC was free via you mobile, the 3rd party content wouldn't be.
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20/01/2021 10:57:57 1 0
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Kids learning is a good thing.
Kids staring at small screen for a lot of time, be that for education or entertainment is just going to result in good returns for opticians and a lot of short sighted kids.
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20/01/2021 14:04:38 1 0
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They said that about my generation getting square eyes from watching too much TV, it was BS then and it's BS now, the main effect of kids using small screens a lot is obesity not their eyesight
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20/01/2021 10:07:49 2 1
bbc
Accessing websites through mobile data has to be the most expensive and inefficient ways of doing things.

Going down the all mobile route i.e. no landline, can be costly in the long run.

More to do with having the latest fashionable phone than economics.
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20/01/2021 12:04:33 0 0
bbc
Oh. Thanks.
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20/01/2021 12:06:28 0 0
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Vapourware.
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20/01/2021 10:07:49 2 1
bbc
Accessing websites through mobile data has to be the most expensive and inefficient ways of doing things.

Going down the all mobile route i.e. no landline, can be costly in the long run.

More to do with having the latest fashionable phone than economics.
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20/01/2021 14:01:49 0 0
bbc
Not necessarily, whether it is via landline , cable or mobile the data is the same, ones and zeros, sometimes mobile can beat the other two and vice-versa, my elder daughters phone usually provides more speed as a hotspot than her actual cable connection using wi-fi does
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20/01/2021 10:57:57 1 0
bbc
Kids learning is a good thing.
Kids staring at small screen for a lot of time, be that for education or entertainment is just going to result in good returns for opticians and a lot of short sighted kids.
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20/01/2021 14:04:38 1 0
bbc
They said that about my generation getting square eyes from watching too much TV, it was BS then and it's BS now, the main effect of kids using small screens a lot is obesity not their eyesight
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20/01/2021 17:12:27 0 0
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This is actually really smart. Maybe other companies could do similar things.

Could also work for other things like government websites