Brexit: Fishing firms hold London protest over disruption
18/01/2021 | news | politics | 8,431
Boris Johnson promises £23m in compensation for exporters which have lost orders due to delays.
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18/01/2021 12:41:45 138 18
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You brexit you buy it
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18/01/2021 12:44:09 15 67
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Because they put the wrong thing on the form- UK instead of GB?
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18/01/2021 13:06:56 1 8
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yeah Boris gave EU British waters so they don't have to buy British
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Ian
18/01/2021 12:41:50 15 58
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They should be protesting in Brussels. They set the rules on their imports.
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18/01/2021 12:43:38 29 3
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Yes, the same rules ALL countries set on their imports.
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18/01/2021 12:44:53 15 2
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They are the rules for countries outside the EU.
This is what Britain chose.
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18/01/2021 12:48:36 6 2
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Beggars can't be choosers!
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18/01/2021 12:41:57 18 55
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Anti brexit slanted story... lets open a HYS!
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18/01/2021 12:44:57 6 14
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Trampolines , Percy Pigs and bike parts so far
19/01/2021 14:15:53 0 0
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Wonder if that £23m is coming out of the savings from leaving

Just asking
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18/01/2021 12:42:04 31 25
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Hands up anyone who didn't expect teething problems.
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18/01/2021 12:46:44 34 14
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These are structural problems.
Brexit is a growing fiasco.
Trump=Brexit= Johnson = fiasco
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18/01/2021 12:42:36 107 9
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Sunny uplands?
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Xai
18/01/2021 12:42:40 1580 181
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Brexiteers angry that they got what they voted for, not what they imagined brexit to be.
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18/01/2021 12:46:02 338 1179
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How many UK residents are affected by these teething problems.

0.01% ?
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18/01/2021 13:03:15 1 14
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export the fish to china since boris has given eu access to british water
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18/01/2021 13:23:24 17 1
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They didn't get what they voted for or were promised.Boris kept going on about protecting our water but the deal is not the problem. Leaving the customs union has caused this as it is the customs and plant and animal health legislation that is causing this red tape. Watch this space as horticulture is also affected and increased costs and delays will probably stop some plants from being imported
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18/01/2021 13:28:21 12 1
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The problem with Brexit was the 'promises' were different things to different people people. Nobody was voting for a fixed policy or ideology and unfortunately none of the people making these 'promises' can be held to account for their lies and misrepresentation of the facts. And now they have the cheek to say 'oh, teething problems'. No, it's welcome to your isolationist future.
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JC
18/01/2021 13:29:39 15 1
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I'm angry that the Government has promised to compensate them, and presumably, now they've set a precedent, other industries who will be negatively affected too. For the 'Government' read all UK taxpayers including those that didn't vote for the fiasco called brexit.
18/01/2021 13:25:44 6 1
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Not really for these guys. They are fish processors, who buy in the UK and export to the Continent. Sure you will be right for some fisherman, but by no means all.

Its worth remembering. NO PART of Scotland voted for Brexit. EVERY district was pro remain. Some fisherman aside of course.
18/01/2021 13:32:46 2 2
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???? bwexit
18/01/2021 13:51:11 0 7
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Give it a rest ......it’s only been 18 days !
18/01/2021 13:52:03 6 2
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Hundreds of thousands are actually affected !
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Sam
18/01/2021 12:43:02 20 41
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Instead of grandstanding Whitehall - they might spend the time filling in their export paperwork properly.
18/01/2021 14:23:29 16 4
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We were promise a smooth transition and LESS red tape, don't you remember? https://infacts.org/cut-keep-list-top-19-brexiteer-promises/
19/01/2021 09:06:40 0 0
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How are they to get this Govt to take any notice - look at their record... And these were hired drivers and lorries - paid for by the Assoc for Fish - meaning they got on with filling in forms - Doesnt that sound so old fashioned... Oh n they will end up either wasting time filling in or pay someone... Raising prices... loosing market share, laying someone off, loosing market share...
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18/01/2021 12:43:11 14 21
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Apparently it's because they put "UK" on the forms instead of "GB"

WON'T DO THAT AGAIN IN A HURRY
19/01/2021 09:09:48 0 1
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Im trying to find the guidance info on the forms saying what should be put - as you are so clued up perhaps you have read them - or was it there at all - and so they put what is the required ref for vehicles - you know the sticky label that reads GB... 6hrs were given for the 1st shipments to have forms filled in. As for the rest - still stops n checks, n delays, n costs = less competitive.
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18/01/2021 12:43:17 420 44
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Oh dear. They thought they were going to have their Brexit and eat it.
I don't give a stuff about fisheries. They voted for selfish reasons.
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18/01/2021 12:44:31 405 19
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Shellfish reasons, actually.
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18/01/2021 12:57:22 20 3
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Exactly and I hope the taxpayers isn’t going to compensate them for any Brexit-related financial losses.
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18/01/2021 13:06:05 4 8
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Boris gave EU British waters so they don't have to buy British
18/01/2021 14:06:00 2 1
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You mean they voted for _shellfish_ reasons?
DEM
18/01/2021 15:36:23 3 4
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Scotland didn’t.
18/01/2021 16:45:04 0 0
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They voted for shellfish reasons lol
18/01/2021 18:30:33 1 1
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They voted for their jobs, their fishing businesses and their diminishing quotas in favour of factory ships. Is that what you consider selfish? They were lied to by the government.
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18/01/2021 12:43:29 26 7
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We have ensure the rest of Europe hates us, if it didn’t already.
Things will be made as difficult as possible. Bit obvious this would happen
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18/01/2021 13:22:37 15 1
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It's the same rules for everyone else. Those rules are largely designed for slow containerised import, because no one else in the EU's neighbourhood is stupid enough to go without some customs facilliation (normally by Single Market membership or the next best thing in the Swiss case)
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18/01/2021 12:43:34 392 39
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They voted for Brexit. Their chickens no wait their fish have come home to rot lol
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18/01/2021 12:45:55 488 32
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If only someone had warned them Johnson was untrustworthy
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18/01/2021 12:47:50 7 13
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The way shellfish are cooked alive is abhorrent.
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18/01/2021 13:05:38 4 5
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yeah Boris gave EU British waters so they don't have to buy British
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18/01/2021 13:23:56 22 2
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To be fair, the Scottish creel fishermen largely didn't vote for Brexit, it was the trade body for the 5 families which own most of the Scottish Quota which was doing all the agitating for Brexit and they managed to rope in the trawlermen.
975
18/01/2021 13:29:34 3 1
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I'm not sure the fish hauliers were all in the same boat (no pun intended!) as the fishermen when it came to voting overwhelmingly for Brexit.
18/01/2021 14:38:53 1 7
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Don’t take too much pleasure from current difficulties .....remember you’re going to suffer as well . However it will come all right in the end so try not to worry too much .
18/01/2021 15:55:11 0 4
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Yawn.
19/01/2021 00:31:36 0 0
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Google translate tells me that is gibberish, and it can't translate it into English, so could you try?
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Ian
18/01/2021 12:41:50 15 58
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They should be protesting in Brussels. They set the rules on their imports.
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18/01/2021 12:43:38 29 3
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Yes, the same rules ALL countries set on their imports.
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18/01/2021 12:43:42 23 5
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The devil was always going to be in the detail. I give it 12 months.
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18/01/2021 12:43:50 316 7
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It’s fine if you are exporting to Northern Ireland as Boris promised that there would be no additional paperwork. He told one businessman who questioned this to refer anyone that asked for paperwork to him!
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18/01/2021 12:51:15 282 6
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Must be a great deal of paper on Boris' desk by now....
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18/01/2021 13:06:40 7 5
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you have to have offices in Ireland like Aldi and Lidl have which Tesco doesnt
19/01/2021 10:03:46 1 0
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It has not started yet - they still have to produce all the paperwork for the UK Compliance & Northern Ireland Compliance that replace the CE marking scheme. They have a few more months to complete the new product compliance tests. Will there be any toys next Christmas as they all need re-certifying to comply with the post brexit approval process
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18/01/2021 12:43:53 76 5
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Such a shellfish thing to do by the government; throwing the fishing industry under that bus.
18/01/2021 14:46:26 30 0
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There can't be much room left under the bus.
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18/01/2021 12:43:58 538 53
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Another Brexit mess
In the echo- chamber of Remain loserdom. Removed
18/01/2021 13:35:31 0 5
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??bwexit ??????
18/01/2021 13:38:20 4 29
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Yawn, yawn, yawn and yawn again. Suck it up loser, moaning will not change anything.
18/01/2021 14:41:57 1 6
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.....please highlight the others you are referring to .
18/01/2021 15:46:01 1 0
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"We must regain control of our sovereign waters"

"And by that we mean taking back 25% of the EU fishing quotas over the next five years - except for channel cod, which remains as it is"
18/01/2021 15:51:16 3 1
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Another Remaoner complaint.
19/01/2021 00:28:56 0 0
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Better than a vaccine debacle.
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18/01/2021 12:43:58 1064 103
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Fishermen voted for Brexit.

They made their own bed now they have to lie in it.

Boris did not tell the truth when he said there would be no trade border between N. Ireland and GB.
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18/01/2021 13:11:21 129 225
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Did they?
Every single one of them?
I didn't know that facts and opinions were equivalent.
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18/01/2021 13:11:25 11 5
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Hope they've got the statues protected in London.
#priorities
18/01/2021 13:31:33 115 1
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Well Fish Exporter Ian Perkes of Brixham who was complaining last week about the new rules was also on TV in 2016 saying the warnings of 'Project Fear' were rubbish. So he deserves everything he gets!
18/01/2021 13:40:45 8 21
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You sure that ALL of the fishing industry voted for it?
18/01/2021 13:40:57 29 6
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True, maybe 'fishermen' on the whole did vote for brexit but then in that case, didn't we all.
the fact of the matter seems to be that they feel they did not get what they voted for and what was promised so they are making their feeling known where it cannot be ignored.

Any rotten fish should be left outside Westminster until this is sorted.
18/01/2021 13:43:09 51 9
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The Scots didn't vote for Brexit. Time for Scotland to leave the Union and rejoin Europe. But of course the Scottish fisherman have decided to cut out the England route and go straight to Denmark to sell their fish suggesting that the UK doesnt really matter any more.
18/01/2021 13:52:00 13 1
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Your first comment is opinion only. Your point about the trade border, "the border in the Irish Sea", is well made. We were all lied to, and Theresa May's 'deal' failed because of the same problem. Boris's solution was to just lie about it.
18/01/2021 13:55:11 18 2
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SOME fishermen may have voted for Brexit. None of the fishermen I know of on the Isle of Mull voted for Brexit. This situation is everything that "project fear" predicted. More importantly it is NOT what BoJo said it would be - seamless and frictionless trade.
Bob
18/01/2021 13:58:26 6 3
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"Fishermen voted for Brexit.

They made their own bed now they have to lie in it."

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[ some ] maybe [ many ] voted for it, but not all.

They voted for "less red tape" and all the other BS that Bojo the clown promised them, in return for his tax-break.

Democracy works both ways. Citizens accept the vote, and the politicians deliver on their promises.
Dan
18/01/2021 14:05:24 13 1
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Hey, but JRM said that the "the fish were now “better and happier” because they are “British fish”."
18/01/2021 14:14:47 11 2
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don't blame the conned , blame the conmen
18/01/2021 14:48:30 2 2
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By no means all. A study of statistics is recommended.
18/01/2021 14:52:20 1 1
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I think if you check Scotland voted to stay in the EU. My memory may be faulty but I think Cornwall was one of the areas that voted remain.
18/01/2021 15:04:59 0 0
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They didn't all vote for it by any means and the Shellfish fishermen who are the ones most badly affected almost certainly didn't as they were never subject to CFP EU quotas and were always aware how crucial their market access was. You wouldn't know that as the BBC barely spoke to them in the referendum it was only the big trawler owners who got on the TV along with Farage !
18/01/2021 15:07:13 4 0
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Farmers will be the next to protest.
18/01/2021 15:27:17 1 0
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Lying in their own Mussel bed?
18/01/2021 16:39:05 0 0
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And you think that's going to win support for rejoin? Name calling, stereotyping and division are what the Brexiteer leaders thrived on. The ordinary leave voter should not be harangued, unless we want to stay out forever, hating each other.
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18/01/2021 12:44:01 9 34
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Compensate the shell fishing industry and play hardball back on al lEU imports. Pay particular attention to confiscating truck drivers sandwiches.
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18/01/2021 12:50:21 1 11
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reply to Joseph Dejacque absolutely , time for a bit of tit for tat , OH and how did we guess that the BBC would list this topic for the remoaners to carp on about , when there was no such platform for the Reading killings
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18/01/2021 12:50:21 6 3
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That would be theft as people are free to bring sandwiches into GB, but not the other way due to the rules our Government signed us up to. Stop whinging at the EU: we left already. This is our mess now.
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18/01/2021 12:44:04 1181 102
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Why is it that those that were so pro Brexit are now wanting to protest about what they voted for. They knew that their market was the EU and they knew that they needed a frictionless border. It was pointed out that they would need vet inspections and that there would be a huge burden of new paperwork. You have fot what you voted for so why complain?
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18/01/2021 12:58:19 925 145
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They are complaining because they were LIED TO.
Only a few weeks ago BoJo was saying that the deal was being delayed because of the issue of fishing.
Lies on social media and the foreign owned right wing press have done so much damage to our country - Tories must take responsibility for this.
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18/01/2021 13:06:28 9 107
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Temporary transition problem, not an end of the world scenario that Remainers had hoped for though eh?

Perhaps we should have stayed in the EU and waited longer to vaccinate fewer of our people?

No BBC HYS on this article strangely enough eh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55666399
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18/01/2021 13:07:31 72 5
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I don't know why more aren't protesting.

The UK has been completely failed by Boris and his Brexit clowns. Businesses small and large screwed over, e.g. €6bn of EU share trading lost from city.
Northern Ireland signed out of the Union. Freedom of movement removed from all UK citizens.
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18/01/2021 13:03:37 2 24
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They need to just sell to China now
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18/01/2021 13:11:17 8 111
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For goodness sake stop your moaning, I am not complaining, I am relieved we are out, by the way, many millions like me....majority of the voting population
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18/01/2021 13:22:05 7 2
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These protesters are primarily Scottish yes, according to this article? I do believe the slim majority of people in Scotland voted remain?
18/01/2021 13:27:35 16 1
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And every area of Scotland including fishing dependent communities voted to Remain. These fish processors have every right to protest.
18/01/2021 13:40:49 6 3
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What with this farce and everything going on in the US right now it is imperative that we find a way to prevent people of low intelligence from voting.
18/01/2021 13:45:18 5 1
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I think that old saying applies here: you can't have your fish and eat it. xD
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18/01/2021 12:41:45 138 18
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You brexit you buy it
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18/01/2021 12:44:09 15 67
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Because they put the wrong thing on the form- UK instead of GB?
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18/01/2021 13:16:32 11 4
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Yes. That's how it works. Any mistake on an important document that could leave hundreds of thousands of people with food poisoning is simply unacceptable.
18/01/2021 13:35:21 18 5
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Surely the fact they don't know the difference between the UK and GB tells you a lot about the intellectual capacity of the people who voted for Brexit.
18/01/2021 22:06:28 1 0
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On OUR forms
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18/01/2021 12:44:14 844 91
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Yes, and the majority of the silly sods voted to “take back control”, and this is what it actually looks like. Fish rotting in lorries at Calais, and European fishermen given access to our waters in any case. Just deserts springs immediately to mind.
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And Schadenfreude
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18/01/2021 13:05:44 7 20
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I see you take great delight in the misfortunes of others - aren't you nice
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18/01/2021 13:06:47 4 42
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Temporary transition problem, not an end of the world scenario that Remainers had hoped for though eh?

Perhaps we should have stayed in the EU and waited longer to vaccinate fewer of our people?

No BBC HYS on this article strangely enough eh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55666399
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18/01/2021 13:03:58 2 12
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they will be sold to China relax
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18/01/2021 13:12:24 2 47
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unlike the silly sods who wanted to stay in the EU and be slaves of Brussels - silly sods
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18/01/2021 13:17:40 35 3
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They believed there would be huge benefits to leaving Europe. They believed that Britain would be so much better off. They believed that it would be better to 'take back control'. Whatever that means. Worse, they believed the Tory lies. Even worse, they believed Boris. Serves you right. Unfortunately you've dragged the rest of us into this endless mess.
Yawn, yawn, yawn and yawn again. Suck it up loser, moaning will not change anything. Removed
18/01/2021 13:47:17 9 1
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"Fish rotting in lorries at Calais, and European fishermen given access to our waters in any case."

That was the oven ready part of the deal.
18/01/2021 13:57:39 5 1
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'take back control' and 'European fishermen given access to our waters in any case' are two completely different things. I assume you knew that as you typed it. One was a promise that wasn't fulfilled and the other a blatant lie so that BoJo could say he 'did a good job'. It's not what anyone voted for in any way.
18/01/2021 14:02:55 0 9
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Well colonel , your spell in the army hasn’t taught you much ......there’s no mention of the role the French are playing this . They are clearly breaking the spirit of the agreement . The UK can catch more fish than ever but if the French won’t allow it across the channel then so be it . We can start cutting up rough .
18/01/2021 15:33:45 2 1
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Just deserts? Not many fish in the Sahara, Atacama, Gobi, Simpson and Kalahari. But i know what you meant!
18/01/2021 15:46:08 0 3
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You are obviously finding it difficult to contain your glee. Typical Remoaner.
18/01/2021 15:49:14 0 2
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The UK has regained control of her laws, borders and ultimately, her fate! UK now needs to develop its post-EU relationship, work on all those trade deals to maximise opportunities outside of the EU. Businesses that don't will, sadly, fail. But that was the democratic choice of the UK and I assume allowances were made for the future disruption many will face.
19/01/2021 00:17:21 0 0
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At Calais? You mean it is the EU who are playing silly b*****s who would have guessed ;-)
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18/01/2021 12:44:20 422 38
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Is anyone really surprised? We have clowns in power that think of themselves and our wealth.
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18/01/2021 12:46:51 34 153
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Yes our wealth is important to our economy
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18/01/2021 13:05:26 5 6
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yeah Boris gave EU British waters so they don't have to buy British
18/01/2021 13:38:44 0 23
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Yawn, yawn, yawn and yawn again. Suck it up loser, moaning will not change anything.
R1
18/01/2021 13:45:10 2 6
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And a UK population that moans at everything, never checks facts, shows no initiative, seems always to want to be told what to do .........
18/01/2021 14:30:32 1 5
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Might we have your identity so that we may vote for you next time . You appear to be eminently better qualified.
18/01/2021 14:36:19 4 2
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I think you mean "and of THEIR wealth"?
18/01/2021 15:54:53 0 8
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I am not surprised by the tedious Remainer comments.
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Neb
18/01/2021 12:44:22 2161 336
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Wasn't there supposed to be less red tape instead of more?

'The easiest deal of the century'
'Oven ready'
'No downsides'

Please remember this next time you vote.
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18/01/2021 12:49:01 1534 251
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But brexiters told us that was project fear. How do they feel now?
This is only the beginning.
Brexit day 18
Trump=Brexit=Johnson=Fiasco
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18/01/2021 12:49:44 52 315
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Yawn
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xlr
18/01/2021 12:52:21 222 29
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The fishermen went into this eyes open. And left with bottoms sore.

I have no sympathy. It's not like they weren't told.
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18/01/2021 12:56:24 56 327
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Can't wait for you to eat humble pie once we are blossoming and the EU is stagnating.
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18/01/2021 12:55:50 31 234
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Wont be another vote after the biggest democratic mandate EVER.
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18/01/2021 12:59:08 252 25
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There was no red tape whilst we were on the EU, the Tories have created a whole warehouse of red tape
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Still moaning
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18/01/2021 13:04:59 3 22
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I shall seek your permission before I get anywhere near the ballot box!
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18/01/2021 13:05:38 41 5
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Too late now - we always knew BJ lied to his nearest and dearest let alone the electorate

People are stupid - they vote for the biggest liar
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18/01/2021 13:05:42 8 44
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Temporary transition problem, not an end of the world scenario that Remainers had hoped for though eh?

Perhaps we should have stayed in the EU and waited longer to vaccinate fewer of our people?

No BBC HYS on this article strangely enough eh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55666399
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18/01/2021 13:09:23 39 4
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"Please remember this next time you vote"

Also: Please remember to vote.
Brexit may have only happened because of a low turn out on the remain side of things.
Your vote is precious, people have died for it and its useless unless you use it.
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18/01/2021 13:02:32 4 14
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EU has access to British water they don't now need to buy British fish thanks to Boris deal ...Fish people should export to China
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18/01/2021 13:10:34 5 26
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I don’t vote, as there isn’t a political party that represents any of my life. But you’ve no chance getting me to vote Labour. The idea of opposition is to question the government of the day, which you’d think would be easy right now, clearly all as inept as each other.
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18/01/2021 13:12:50 20 7
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Hands up those who still think Brexit was a good idea?
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18/01/2021 13:15:16 6 25
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£660 billion free trade deal and a few hick ups means a disaster? I was involved with the export of goods to the middle east. Once you learned how to operate the most complex export papers in the world the goods flowed smoothly. But with you no learning curve is allowed. Or do you think you have served your apprenticeship in 18 days?
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m
18/01/2021 13:17:43 19 2
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Exactly and that was and is your misunderstanding of the EU. The EU redtape for memberstates is big but for non-memberstate much, much bigger. You were warned for it, not once but many many times. It is not redtape to take revenche but is simply the high wall around the internal market. With brexit and a brexit-deal which very simple because of the UK negotiating this is the result.
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18/01/2021 13:20:33 6 22
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You obviously do not know about the thousands of EU directives that were flying about when we were members of the EU. Look up the Duck egg directive. Over 60 thousand words but the ducks only new one way to lay them. Use any argument you want about brexit but please pretend you know about the directives
849
18/01/2021 13:23:38 12 2
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exactly
852
18/01/2021 13:23:42 6 32
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Are you naïve enough to think there would be no teething problems after a country leaves the EU? Unpicking 40+ years of tyranny takes a bit of time.
906
18/01/2021 13:26:00 8 3
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"don't get fooled again" The Who 1971
914
18/01/2021 13:26:38 21 2
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Unfortunately stupid wins, a dumb irrational population fuelling raisms and hate. Content with nazis leaders like trump and anti foreign policys like brexit.
They will have no response because they belive they have "won" some sort of childish game. Let's hope it is them that fall the hardest.
920
18/01/2021 13:26:50 21 3
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Easy to say Brexit was worth worth it when they thought it was going to be other other people who will suffer the consequences. Penny sinking in now is it! Not so great when they're the ones suffering the hardship.

Wait until they really get stuck into workers rights etc etc!!! Already talking of reducing statutory holidays from 28 to 20 including bank holidays...
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18/01/2021 12:43:17 420 44
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Oh dear. They thought they were going to have their Brexit and eat it.
I don't give a stuff about fisheries. They voted for selfish reasons.
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18/01/2021 12:44:31 405 19
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Shellfish reasons, actually.
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18/01/2021 13:06:04 13 2
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Nice One
18/01/2021 16:24:43 1 0
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They made their sea bed now they can lie in it.
Bru
18/01/2021 21:11:59 0 0
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damn it beat me to it
18/01/2021 23:42:55 0 0
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this wins the internet this evening. thank you!
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18/01/2021 12:44:41 3 32
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The only thing that stops this is retaliation.
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18/01/2021 12:44:46 1639 177
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It's almost like Brexit was objectively a bad idea.
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18/01/2021 12:51:27 1189 88
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These fishermen better watch out, or they might get labelled as "liberal elite".
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18/01/2021 13:06:04 15 159
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Temporary transition problem, not an end of the world scenario that Remainers had hoped for though eh?

Perhaps we should have stayed in the EU and waited longer to vaccinate fewer of our people?

No BBC HYS on this article strangely enough eh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55666399
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18/01/2021 13:02:49 2 55
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export fish to china
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18/01/2021 13:16:32 53 4
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Na, it's just the sunlit uplands are so bright we can't see any of the benefits of brexit that are all around for everyone to see..
18/01/2021 13:23:00 16 1
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almost??
Despite what they were told by Vote Leave (now the Government) it is now clear that the UK fishing industry is not going to have their fishcake and eat it.
18/01/2021 13:39:19 7 29
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Yes, a few problems with shellfish and Brexit is a disaster!

Keep them coming - you are cheering us all up with your silly statements!
18/01/2021 13:46:19 3 34
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Democracy is always a bad idea to the moaning left when they don't win.
18/01/2021 13:46:20 3 44
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If we were still in the EU we would not be so far ahead in vaccinating against Covid-19. Best estimate is that around 40,000 extra people would die in 2021 had we remained in the EU, where their central control will almost certainly kill around 3/4 million over the rest of Europe, people who would not die but for the idiocy of the EU. So, YES, BREXIT WAS A VERY GOOD THING
18/01/2021 13:43:02 2 24
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Really - how is the EU vaccine programme going ???
18/01/2021 13:57:07 17 2
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It's almost like swathes of the UK were conned by a sound bite.
18/01/2021 14:13:43 8 2
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it's now called brexs*it...
18/01/2021 14:10:11 1 20
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This is all the fault of PROJECT FEAR and all the nonsense REMOANERS intentionally obfuscating and getting in the way.

If we'd gotten a proper, no deal brexit, this WOULD NOT be an issue. FACTS.
18/01/2021 15:33:05 1 3
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Its almost as if changing from one system to another won't have a few problems at the beginning.
18/01/2021 15:33:18 1 7
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Joining the EEC was the bad idea.
18/01/2021 15:40:36 1 1
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Surely not! They own it, so get used to it. Sorry seems to be the hardest word...
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Ian
18/01/2021 12:41:50 15 58
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They should be protesting in Brussels. They set the rules on their imports.
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18/01/2021 12:44:53 15 2
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They are the rules for countries outside the EU.
This is what Britain chose.
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18/01/2021 12:41:57 18 55
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Anti brexit slanted story... lets open a HYS!
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18/01/2021 12:44:57 6 14
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Trampolines , Percy Pigs and bike parts so far
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18/01/2021 12:44:59 373 40
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"Incompetent Government" - sadly true - there's no better barometer of that than the car-crash response to covid.
Yawn, yawn, yawn and yawn again. Suck it up loser, moaning will not change anything. Removed
18/01/2021 13:47:27 1 21
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Every country in the world has had the same problems, even ze Germans.
We have done no worse than any other EU country and far better re vaccination. The reason we have a large number of deaths is because England, is the most densely populated country in Europe & nearly in the entire world due to mass immigration. We are the number one air transit hub in Europe. We have the largest number of chinese students who brought and spread the virus. Think more clearly. Removed
18/01/2021 19:39:35 1 0
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Don't you love Boris's claim that the form filling problems and shipping delays being experienced by GB exporters are due to lack of EU demand. What an idiot! These businesses are want to export produce to the EU, because EU customers have ordered it. I assume they are ordering seafood because they have customers (in the EU) they can sell it to...
19/01/2021 00:43:28 1 1
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Euronews proclaimed UK as 'Vaccine Champions of Europe' , so what does that say for the EU?
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18/01/2021 12:45:09 104 6
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Haven't fishermen voted for Brexit by any chance?
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18/01/2021 13:20:12 14 2
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shellfish people pfft
18/01/2021 15:21:34 2 0
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Yes, just like the people of Britain voted in favour of brexit.
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18/01/2021 12:45:19 897 50
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Hang on. Wasn't fishing one of the key reasons we left the EU? To promote a better fishing economy for the UK? Less red tape? Fisherman screaming loudly "Get us out of here".

Interesting. Did they not think the implications through or something?
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Ed
18/01/2021 12:57:30 634 30
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Especially when the majority of the UK catch goes to the export market - Turkeys voting for Xmas comes to mind...
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18/01/2021 13:05:11 5 7
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yeah Boris gave EU British waters so they don't have to buy British
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18/01/2021 13:14:34 7 13
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Wasn't it also the one point that was most troubling until the 11th hour deal?
Perhaps people should be moaning less about "This is the Brexiteers fault" and moaning more about "This is what happens when a particular deal cannot be finalised with enough time to implement it properly"
18/01/2021 13:27:08 1 17
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No it wasn't the key reason.
18/01/2021 13:32:38 25 2
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Voters in England (mainly) were sold an idea about fishing and Brexit which was false. All this was largely predictable and fish and food processors said so. Government said it would be OK. Its not. They have every right to protest.
18/01/2021 13:38:06 1 28
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Yawn, yawn, yawn and yawn again. Suck it up loser, moaning will not change anything.
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18/01/2021 13:49:16 21 2
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The idiots promoting that idea had 0 understanding of who catches what and who eats what. You can’t tell a brexiteer that we didn’t eat all of what we caught so what’s the point of catching more? Especially if you can’t export it.
They just put their fingers in their ears singing nah, nah, nah, nah nah.
18/01/2021 13:52:43 5 1
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There are 2 separate groups of fishermen. One group trawl for the fish we get from the local chippie and they got done because their catch allocation has actually been reduced from the CFP that they hated. The other group are inshore fishermen who use creels rather than nets to catch crabs, lobsters etc. The inshore men were promised no changes but were conned by the Tory Brexiteers.
18/01/2021 13:59:59 3 1
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or... it's more likely that they voted to rid the UK waters of the European fishermen. A promise that was made at the time. Unfortunately, we all know that politicians rarely do what's promised. Apart from the whole brexit referendum of course. The one thing that they should have let go that they didn't.
18/01/2021 14:05:45 6 1
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"Did they not think the implications through or something?"
They didn't simply because they couldn't.
18/01/2021 14:26:42 0 10
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Not at all . Fishing was hardly mentioned until Macron who was under pressure from his belligerent fishermen and then made it such a crucial part of the negotiations . Besides it’s not catching fish that’s the problem ....it’s getting them across the channel ...Macron again .
18/01/2021 14:31:53 6 1
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No we left so that a number of very wealthy people could avoid some taxes
In order to do that they had to get a bunch of suckers to vote leave

You can see how much the tories care about the people from their behaviour in the last 6 months

Its all about money
18/01/2021 15:37:37 5 0
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No, the hard of thinking were just fired up by Farage to believe that fishing mattered in the bigger picture. He could have chosen candlestick makers and got the same level of emotional incontinence.
18/01/2021 15:47:36 0 5
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Yawn.
18/01/2021 15:54:41 0 0
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Yes, I believe it was one of the main sticking points that led to a protracted negotiation. And now they aren't happy. Pathetic.
18/01/2021 16:47:56 0 1
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Give it time. Did you think this would happen overnight? Also did the truckers have the correct forms to enter the EU since it has been advertised in the newspapers and the TV for the last 6 months.
19/01/2021 07:18:13 0 0
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Think things through? Do you realise what you're demanding? Thinking requires intellectual capacity. A capacious head is not sufficient.
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18/01/2021 12:45:22 527 40
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The fishing industry wanted Brexit and now they have it. They won't get any sympathy from me.
18/01/2021 13:30:59 361 24
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Indeed they did - after naively expecting fishing to actually be prioritised in the negotiations, rather than being used as a nationalistic token while allowing the UK to remove itself from particular EU anti-tax avoidance directives....

The rich (the ones that support the Tories) will still be able to avoid tax - it's the rest of us who will pay the price.
18/01/2021 13:39:58 1 26
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I don't think anyone has asked for sympathy, or are you on some form of drugs. Suck it up loser.
18/01/2021 14:33:36 1 6
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Catching fish is not the problem . It’s getting them over the channel . .....that’s where our friends in France come in .
18/01/2021 15:53:09 0 3
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Somehow I don't think the fishing industry are bothered about your opinion.
19/01/2021 00:29:53 0 0
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I doubt they would ask,mind you are you going to take advantage of Brexit and accept a vaccination? ;-)
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18/01/2021 12:45:23 668 64
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But brexiters told us that was project fear. How do you feel now?
This is only the beginning.
Brexit day 18
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Feel GREAT THANKS!
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18/01/2021 13:16:24 9 87
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I would still vote leave. See how things look in 5 years after German dominated Europe really puts its foot down.
18/01/2021 13:34:15 7 2
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?????? bwexit
18/01/2021 13:37:44 4 61
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Feel great, thanks for asking.
18/01/2021 13:45:34 4 65
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We could have worked on ironing out these creases 4 years ago if people had just accepted the vote. Oh well, makes no difference.
18/01/2021 15:36:25 2 2
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Please, you care nothing for the fishermen, have made it quite clear and now are acting as their best friends. You are a servile human doing.
18/01/2021 15:50:21 3 4
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I must have seen a million Remoaner posts like this, in almost the same words. What I feel is that even when the problems are sorted out, people like you will find something to complain about. It's all you do.
19/01/2021 00:21:05 0 0
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LOL where in Project fear did Dutch Bike Bitz and Beer on the Web feature? Page 99,999 in the small print?
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18/01/2021 12:45:28 11 19
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It is up to both the EU and UK to resolve these teething problems - and that's what they are. It would be a shame if EU exporters were to experience similar problems delivering their perishable goods to the UK......
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18/01/2021 12:47:53 13 2
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EU exporters haven't voted for Brexit. British fishermen in between did. Serves them right.
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18/01/2021 12:53:06 1 1
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They are
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18/01/2021 12:54:16 1 1
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Not teething problems. Even a blind man could see this wasn't going to work. We had a trading relationship which worked. Minimum fuss, business trading, schedules met. Happy customers. Damage has been done. French now trading with Denmark which will become the norm rather than temp.
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JAM
18/01/2021 12:55:54 1 1
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I think you'll find that they are...
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18/01/2021 12:45:31 656 42
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Brexit got done and fishermen got most certainly done too......
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18/01/2021 12:52:40 436 35
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Don't forget the northern Irish or the 1.3M brits living and working in the EU
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18/01/2021 13:04:17 6 5
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yeah boris gave eu british waters
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18/01/2021 13:17:08 15 1
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done a bit like a kipper - a ukipper?
18/01/2021 15:34:57 0 1
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Done to do free trade in the future.
18/01/2021 15:39:40 0 2
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Joining the EEC got the fishermen done, they lost 50,000 jobs cos of the EU
18/01/2021 17:48:43 1 0
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Done like kippers
18/01/2021 21:54:33 0 0
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This is really only the start of it. Covid-19 is masking a lot of the issues to come. It is always the same, the people that vote for and get what they voted for are generally the first ones to moan when it gets a little tough for them. Oh and don't forget workers rights will need to be scrapped to make us as equally as competitive as before 1st Jan 2021. What joy from the Wrexiteers....
19/01/2021 09:48:07 0 0
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The UK was done 'sunlit uplands?'....how do we get out of this mess, Scotland and NI will press for independence ..... ?
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18/01/2021 12:45:47 6 36
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Well we are dealing with our friends in Europe! That's what Remainers refer to them as. I have never found the French to be particularly friendly - especially if you are not proficient in their language!
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18/01/2021 12:50:02 13 1
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Do you speak a foreign language at all? Even a few words. Obviously not. So you expect everyone to speak English. That's the British for you.
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18/01/2021 12:53:32 4 2
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You expect foreigners to speak English too.
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18/01/2021 12:45:53 104 13
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but ask yourself ..... are the shellfish happier now they are going to land fill ? lets just remember the waste and impact on the environment not just the cost to your profits which alot of you voted for influenced by all the tory liars
19/01/2021 09:08:08 2 0
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There were many labour brexiteers as well
If the other parties had voted for May's deal ,we would have had much better deal ,plenty of blame to go round
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18/01/2021 12:43:34 392 39
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They voted for Brexit. Their chickens no wait their fish have come home to rot lol
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18/01/2021 12:45:55 488 32
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If only someone had warned them Johnson was untrustworthy
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18/01/2021 12:50:20 8 2
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If only
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18/01/2021 13:48:45 0 22
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but he isn't............... He has delivered on Brexit ! Look at all the countries in the EU which admire what the UK has done, and are planning on following our lead.
18/01/2021 14:06:33 14 1
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I did not warn Johnson. I attempted to warn the readers of my blog but debate was stopped by the undemocratic phrase "Project Fear" against which there seemed to be no argument because every reply received the same rejoinder "Project Fear" without further comment or explanation since none was available to the perpetrators.
18/01/2021 14:08:20 9 1
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Ha! They didn't need to be "warned": it was abundantly clear to almost everyone prior to starting Brexit that he was dishonest.
18/01/2021 14:39:37 0 7
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........and Corbyn is ?
18/01/2021 20:35:07 3 0
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Be fair - it's not as if he was publicly sacked for lying. Twice.

Oh no, wait....
19/01/2021 00:32:11 0 0
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It is Calais that is playing silly b*****s - or does Boris hold sway there too?
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18/01/2021 12:45:56 556 55
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To all those that voted to Brexit and is now affected by this - wind your necks in, you voted for it, so surly you knew this would happen!
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18/01/2021 12:59:50 89 428
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I'm guessing you didn't vote for Brexit and still feeling sour about the result
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18/01/2021 13:05:51 8 10
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yeah Boris gave EU British waters so they don't have to buy British now
18/01/2021 13:39:04 31 1
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This was always going to happen when an ideologically-driven government put Sovereignty (an illusory concept - we have given away lots of it) ahead of trade practicalities. They could have gone for Norway but could not stomach some issues being decided by the ECJ
Yep, we voted for it, and we are happy, very very happy. Oh yes, by the way, wind your own scrawny neck in loser. Removed
18/01/2021 13:56:40 1 14
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My neck has never been wound out. Pity you lot cannot accept that this is democracy. The majority voted for it.
18/01/2021 14:02:27 2 8
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This is exactly what they didn't vote for though isn't it? They are being negatively effected because Boris couldn't hold his nerve. It was a vote for leaving the EU or staying in. Now we have a half-way house and the fishermen were used as bate, ironically.
18/01/2021 15:52:33 0 4
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Yawn. Are you BBC Remoaners running a competition for the most predictable comments? I think you might have won.
18/01/2021 16:21:59 0 2
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I voted to leave the EU and I had a very good idea that the EU would make life very difficult for the UK and guess what I'm not complaining about the out come
19/01/2021 00:28:31 0 0
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so are you going to refuse a vaccination if offered?
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18/01/2021 12:45:59 1032 101
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Seriously, what did they expect? We tried warning of the consequences of Brexit before the referendum, but apparently those warnings were 'Project Fear'
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18/01/2021 12:59:01 626 58
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Now the dismissal is "Fill in the forms. It's not hard" or "It's only a temporary thing". The fishermen are stuck. It's over. Dismissals are all they'll get.

I wouldn't even bother about the compensation either. Boris' idea of financial compensation is probably similar to his idea of a week's school lunch.
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18/01/2021 13:04:45 7 12
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yeah Boris gave EU British waters so they don't have to buy British
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18/01/2021 13:14:15 9 64
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grow up, glad we are out....wish it had been3 years ago!
Yawn, yawn, yawn and yawn again. Suck it up loser, moaning will not change anything. Removed
18/01/2021 13:37:33 51 6
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People I spoke to about the referendum were a bit like Trump supporters, totally blinkered and unable to reason
18/01/2021 14:08:17 1 20
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This is only one small aspect of the agreement and your prejudice won’t help . Instead of gloating you ought to be supporting the future success of Brexit . If you don’t we will be forced to turn to World Trade to exclusion of the EU .....there’s no going back .
18/01/2021 15:10:00 0 4
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If we'd been warned about delays to shellfish from Scotland to the EU we'd probably have gotten over it okay.
18/01/2021 15:10:24 6 1
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Boris said there would be no downside to Brexit. He wouldn't lie would he?
18/01/2021 15:44:57 0 4
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Gosh, I wish I was as far-sighted as you. The whole of the UK is crashing down in ruin because some fish exports are blocked.
19/01/2021 00:03:15 0 0
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Odd, I don't remember Dutch Bike Bitz or Beer on the Web being mentioned, it was Nissan to close Sunderland and Unilever to leave London.
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18/01/2021 12:42:40 1580 181
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Brexiteers angry that they got what they voted for, not what they imagined brexit to be.
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18/01/2021 12:46:02 338 1179
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How many UK residents are affected by these teething problems.

0.01% ?
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18/01/2021 12:49:30 248 18
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Ultimately, problem by problem, tax rise by tax rise....Everybody
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Lef
18/01/2021 12:52:47 164 6
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So why was it such a big thing for the chief Brexiteers?
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18/01/2021 12:55:44 126 13
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But there was no need for anyone to have their livelihood threatened. You wait -- these "teething problems" will be permanent.
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Dan
18/01/2021 12:56:14 127 7
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The same 0.1% for whom every communication from the government re: a deal was about, to the detriment of everyone else - and they still bungled it.

Almost as if it was all a smokescreen while they furthered their own interests.

No point in "Taking Back Control" and handing it over to worse people.
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18/01/2021 13:00:25 190 16
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And who has seen any quantifiable benefit of Brexit in the UK?

0.00000000%?
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18/01/2021 13:02:34 127 12
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How many UK residents benefitting from Brexit?

0%
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18/01/2021 13:03:20 31 12
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Noooooo...........0.001%
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18/01/2021 13:03:36 9 63
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Well said
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18/01/2021 13:05:53 5 1
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You have your percentage wrong there Ricky.
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18/01/2021 13:06:47 22 2
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Perhaps, but everyone is ultimately affected by the lie that is Brexit. Incidentally, 0.01% sounds a much bigger deal if it involves you, your livelihood and your family.
This just shows your lack of intelligence. What about trade friction with Northern Ireland, the loss of equivalence for London, all the small businesses that now incur higher costs to trade with the EU, VAT registration for small companies is a nightmare and expensive. The end customer have to pay more for items being delivered and VAT which is different in countries of the EU. still 0.01%? Removed
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18/01/2021 13:09:29 2 9
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Well, a 0.02% death rate is apparently enough to paralyse the whole globe, so... y'know...
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18/01/2021 13:09:53 26 2
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Considering the group protesting were supposed to benefit from brexit %s don't come into it.
Another day Another Brexit farce.
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18/01/2021 13:10:43 32 3
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I have had a parcel delayed in customs already. My son-in-law's company stopped exporting to EU. The source of origin rules makes the current business model unprofitable.

They are redesigning their business, probably less profitably and losing at least 2 months European exports and expended 2 months wasted effort.

Another acquaintance has closed his company, 30 jobs gone

0.01% ? Wake up!
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18/01/2021 13:11:15 14 2
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These are not teething problems. These are a designed-in feature of EU international trade policy.
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18/01/2021 13:13:00 15 2
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Teething problems? How about having all your teeth removed with no anaesthetic and replaced by badly made dentures? You obviously don't/didn't work with Europe did you ducky? More informed opinion would point to considerably more than 0.01%.
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18/01/2021 13:13:10 4 2
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0.01% is about the same GDP contribution of the fishermen
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18/01/2021 13:15:02 6 1
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That’s not the % of people affected
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18/01/2021 13:15:27 20 3
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I'm affected, I don't have freedom to work in EU anymore and curtailed freedom of movement.
But that's not a teething problem, that was the intention.
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18/01/2021 13:27:46 15 1
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Most UK residents don’t eat shellfish, it doesn’t fit or sit well with them, that’s why 85% of fish and seafood is sold to the EU. This isn’t about the great British public, this is about screwing our UK exporters. A net negative result to the economy not even felt as of yet by UK residents. Wait and see what else might impact UK imports before you judge who might be affected. Could be you!
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18/01/2021 13:28:29 12 3
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100% it's just how much
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18/01/2021 13:29:27 13 1
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About the same as the contribution of fishing to our economy. You know, the fish that all the Brexiters voted for?
18/01/2021 13:32:47 10 2
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100% I can no longer travel to Europe without more expense and red tape.
18/01/2021 13:36:33 9 1
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Think you will find the population of NI is more than .01% of the UK population, throw in the fisherman, HG drivers, exporters and you will find it is a sizeable percentage that are directly affected and many more that are indirectly affected.
18/01/2021 13:38:43 10 1
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The same number that were supposed to benefit from us taking back our waters, I suppose. Fishing is a tiny part of our economy, it was very odd to claim we should Brexit to benefit fishing. Now the fishing industry is suffering due to Brexit makes it even harder to understand what the point of Brexit was.
18/01/2021 13:40:25 2 2
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0.01% still too many
18/01/2021 13:48:06 8 1
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You might be correct. BUT for the tiny communities in NW Scotland from where much of that product comes from, this IS - or rather sadly perhaps WAS - one of the main sources of year round employment. Tourism has been destroyed by CoVid and now add this. Perhaps the saddest part is that many of these same fishermen voted for Brexit. Fooled?
18/01/2021 13:46:20 8 1
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Typical "not my problem" response. I hate to say I told you lot so but...I told you lot so!
18/01/2021 13:47:00 6 1
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That’s an intelligent comment,sums up the people who got their country back ??????
18/01/2021 13:49:43 6 1
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The fishing industry is at the bleeding raw edge of this problem, and the most visible so far. In general, container and lorry traffic is massively disrupted, with many forwarding firms having to refuse work and consignments arriving late or still sitting at warehouses. You may not feel it just now, but the big bite on the rear end is happening soon. I do wonder why the news isn't covering this.
18/01/2021 13:52:31 7 1
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That relatively small industry was just about the only thing Boris and Farage kept banging on about. But not even they are benefiting from this! So what hope do the rest of us have?
18/01/2021 13:55:21 4 1
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A nonsensical argument
18/01/2021 13:55:42 4 2
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Not you clearly, you are like all who voted to leave, you give a toss about others.
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18/01/2021 12:46:27 989 178
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It's time to rejoin the EU.
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18/01/2021 12:52:40 540 127
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We will, there'll be another referendum when Boris is booted out at the next GE.
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18/01/2021 13:04:56 23 73
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never
Yeah sure... rejoin and be Merkel's foot stool. I don't think so.

Anyone wanting to go crawling back to the EU now must be an even bigger Cuck than those who wanted to stay in the first place.
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18/01/2021 13:12:51 56 6
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Sorry, but EU rues don't permit that. Any applicant to join the EU must demonstrate 2 things:
- Budget deficit of < 3% of GDP! Don't make me laugh
- A democratic method of government: with our "old cronies", "give us a million for a peerage" House of Lords and hereditary head of state, it's questionable that the UK qualifies.
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18/01/2021 13:14:39 13 64
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I am, from a distance, thank goodness we are out!
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18/01/2021 13:16:07 26 93
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If you want to belong an unelected, biased and corrupt organisation I suggest you move to the main land Europe.
18/01/2021 13:34:00 6 11
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It's time we started eating more fish at dinner time ?
18/01/2021 13:34:31 19 4
bbc
Sorry, your economy won't be in shape to rejoin for a decade at least.
18/01/2021 13:36:25 7 37
bbc
Yawn, yawn, yawn and yawn again. Suck it up loser, moaning will not change anything.
18/01/2021 13:39:25 17 7
bbc
No it isn't.

Even if the loose membership (Euro/Shengen etc) status we enjoyed was better than how this turns out (bearing in mind it's only been two weeks versus 40 years), re-joining would mean agreeing to *all previous treaties* - those opt outs we've enjoyed would no longer exist.
18/01/2021 13:40:49 19 5
bbc
Within a decade...

Our National debt will have doubled.

Our BOP will be completely out of control.

Our credit rating will be dirt.

We will have been on our knees at the IMF.

Our asset bubble will have imploded and the spivs will have split with all the loot.

The EU will not have us back.
R1
18/01/2021 13:40:50 9 28
bbc
But why would we want to join something that now looks as if it will cease to exist ? Given all the internal EU strife today, it looks as if it wont last another 10 years.
18/01/2021 13:43:53 7 1
bbc
Boris may be booted out by those to his right in his party, of whom there are many
18/01/2021 13:44:35 4 15
bbc
Please,dont be stupid!
18/01/2021 13:52:11 10 2
bbc
BUT, when we re-join we will have to accept everything that we did not have to follow as a member with a veto. That veto and all that it meant will be lost.
18/01/2021 13:56:33 4 3
bbc
Norfolk enchants. I'm sick of referenda. I don't even wish to speculate how much we'll have our pants pulled down to go back in. Besides, the EU will not want us back.
18/01/2021 13:59:02 11 2
bbc
I agree, and so do most others who votd for Brexit now.
Dan
18/01/2021 14:07:23 9 1
bbc
I doubt they would have us back though...
18/01/2021 14:14:58 10 2
bbc
Rejoining is inevitable, the only question is when. But there will be no referendum needed as it will be in a party manifesto. And it will be quite ironic with mandatory Euro adoption.
4
18/01/2021 12:42:04 31 25
bbc
Hands up anyone who didn't expect teething problems.
43
18/01/2021 12:46:44 34 14
bbc
These are structural problems.
Brexit is a growing fiasco.
Trump=Brexit= Johnson = fiasco
18/01/2021 22:52:04 1 1
bbc
Rubbish. If they cannot fill the forms in correctly they deserve all they get.
44
18/01/2021 12:46:47 633 34
bbc
Would these be the same fishermen who before the Referendi
um were sailing down the Thames with Nigel Farage. Now they know what Brexit is like!
764
18/01/2021 13:19:11 64 402
bbc
No, they now know about dealing with a protectionist trade cartel.
18/01/2021 13:45:36 23 3
bbc
Farage is the King of the Fish People. Ever read "The Shadow over Innsmouth"?

His physiognomy is clearly described.
18/01/2021 15:44:03 3 1
bbc
No- it was the larger Scottish companies. It was probably them who funded the shadowy organisation Fishing for Leave which cooperated with Farage on his stunts on the Thames and got Gove all excited..
18/01/2021 15:50:56 2 4
bbc
Are these the same Remoaners who have been complaining since 2016?
18/01/2021 21:28:30 0 0
bbc
No
19/01/2021 00:21:46 0 0
bbc
Actually, no but then I don't expect a remoaner to know such things.
22
18/01/2021 12:44:20 422 38
bbc
Is anyone really surprised? We have clowns in power that think of themselves and our wealth.
45
18/01/2021 12:46:51 34 153
bbc
Yes our wealth is important to our economy
392
18/01/2021 13:03:55 22 4
bbc
No, our wealth is important to the clowns - if they can get their hands on it.
18/01/2021 13:35:53 12 1
bbc
What wealth. How much is the UK in debt.
18/01/2021 23:21:18 0 0
bbc
And sod the poor..?
46
18/01/2021 12:46:56 73 9
bbc
Fishing rights were central to Brexit, we even threatened a "no deal" if we didn't get the rights we wanted, yet what we got makes things worse for fisherman than before Brexit. It really is difficult to overstate the utter incompetence of this Government. They had just one job...
469
18/01/2021 13:07:40 50 3
bbc
Us who didn't believe the lies predicted the first thing to get ripped up, as soon as we left, were workers rights, it happened They need us more than we need them. As predicted the EU held all the cards. No deal yel on financial services. Multi million deals headings for frankfurt instead of London. The only winners are the wealthy tax dodgers £350 million a week for the NHS, gone in subsidies.
47
18/01/2021 12:46:57 92 13
bbc
Silly fishermen to believe what politicians tell them. Unless it benefits politicians back pockets they dont care a fig about anyone else.
66
18/01/2021 12:48:07 33 6
bbc
Hear hear
48
18/01/2021 12:47:16 8 3
bbc
Clearly, they knew what they were voting for....
277
18/01/2021 12:58:52 0 2
bbc
Don't imagine those in the fishing industry are any smarter than the rest of us. We've all been hoodwinked by a bunch of public school boy nutters.
49
18/01/2021 12:47:17 35 9
bbc
They knew what they voted for. Suck it up.
50
18/01/2021 12:47:20 207 12
bbc
You were told but you dismissed it as Project Fear and voted leave.
51
18/01/2021 12:47:27 58 7
bbc
#Red Neck.."Hands up anyone who didn't expect teething problems"...These are not "teething problems",this is the new regime the Tories have signed up to,they can compensate the hauliers for loss of income but the problem won't go away.
Fish has to be transported quickly to it's destination,the Tories have thrown hurdles in the way and the businesses are now unviable.
52
18/01/2021 12:47:40 48 7
bbc
Brexit certainly got done and so have we by a blond dope who couldn't even pull a pint properly.

Come on Tories, get this Bozo out of No. 10!
53
18/01/2021 12:47:40 9 2
bbc
I think the fishermen moaning about their plight all the time is really shellfish.
54
18/01/2021 12:47:42 6 3
bbc
20% access, 0% business sense
55
18/01/2021 12:47:43 142 13
bbc
This is project reality now. We had the best deal but instead trusted the far right erg. Now it’s project payback and those people will be worse hit. Maybe they should understand what they are voting for before being triggered into acts of treason next time
85
18/01/2021 12:49:14 12 142
bbc
Far Right!!! Blah Blah Blah Blah , funny how anyone who disgrees with anything earns this label, Bore off!
111
18/01/2021 12:51:01 6 24
bbc
lol, a few fish delayed. I thought you remoaners weren't bothered about fish. Didn't you complain about the way we fought for fishing rights in our own waters during the trade deal negotiations? Why have you changed so suddenly, you suddenly really care about fishermen, lol.
Dear Judas, no treason in supporting democracy, on the other hand what you suggest is treason. Removed
19/01/2021 16:11:57 0 0
bbc
I don't think the fishermen thought the EU rules were the best deal. There has to be willingness to make it work on both sides of the UK/EU borders and sadly the EU does not want it to be a success.
56
18/01/2021 12:47:44 97 4
bbc
Having had a General Export held up at Manston for 16 hours waiting for a document that is produced by UK Customs that takes 5 minutes to produce so can fully sympathize with the drivers and hauliers.
The system currently in place has to change, sooner rather than later
93
18/01/2021 12:49:56 99 6
bbc
This is the reality of 3rd Country customs requirements.

Not sure how they can change.

Unless the EU changed them for every other Nation.
618
18/01/2021 13:12:01 0 7
bbc
Manston was only used at Christmas for reasons nothing to do with Brexit. Ask the French about it!!
803
18/01/2021 13:21:02 14 2
bbc
This **is** the system now!

This is how it works for non-members trying to sell goods in the EU.
18/01/2021 14:37:40 7 1
bbc
Good luck with that. Have you a plan;? Perhaps you could show it to BoJo.
57
18/01/2021 12:47:47 44 6
bbc
I don't think it will be long before other hauliers join them.

After all, parking in Westminster is cheaper than HMRC want to charge for using the Farage Garage while the Kermits all expire.
11
18/01/2021 12:43:34 392 39
bbc
They voted for Brexit. Their chickens no wait their fish have come home to rot lol
58
18/01/2021 12:47:50 7 13
bbc
The way shellfish are cooked alive is abhorrent.
34
18/01/2021 12:45:28 11 19
bbc
It is up to both the EU and UK to resolve these teething problems - and that's what they are. It would be a shame if EU exporters were to experience similar problems delivering their perishable goods to the UK......
59
18/01/2021 12:47:53 13 2
bbc
EU exporters haven't voted for Brexit. British fishermen in between did. Serves them right.
60
18/01/2021 12:48:00 97 7
bbc
You get what you vote for.
363
18/01/2021 13:02:07 39 14
bbc
And you got what you wished for. Brexit be a failure .
18/01/2021 15:46:33 1 2
bbc
I don't think this mess is what they thought they were voting for.
61
18/01/2021 12:48:00 1 17
bbc
I get the feeling that the EU will pick on any minor discrepancy in the paperwork to deny access. Who would have thunk it? Soldier on! The sunny uplands are there once we get our act together.
142
18/01/2021 12:52:21 6 1
bbc
Customs Officers did not vote for Brexit. They are only applying the rules. You own this mess. Well done chum.
198
18/01/2021 12:55:06 1 1
bbc
Parody post? You forgot to mention unicorns
62
18/01/2021 12:48:03 121 5
bbc
Some of this will get better because some of it is just adjusting to the new normal but it won’t ever get back to like it was before because the moment we left the customs union and single market we introduced these issues. We voted to make trade harder and more complex.
166
18/01/2021 12:53:43 94 12
bbc
When you say "we", don't include me. In fact don't include the 62% of registered voters who didn't vote for wrexit.
185
18/01/2021 12:54:38 13 3
bbc
The referendum promises were for reduced red tape and bureaucracy; the Tories delivered the exact opposite.

I really don't understand why people who voted for Brexit aren't angrier yet.
63
18/01/2021 12:48:03 108 10
bbc
Scottish Fishermen nd their communities betrayed by the tories, who would have guessed it?
18/01/2021 14:46:34 45 6
bbc
Just as the Unionists in Northern Ireland were left up a creek without a paddle. Lesson learned, never trust a Tory, whoever you are.
64
18/01/2021 12:48:05 106 11
bbc
If only someone hard warned them that Johnson was untrustworthy
256
18/01/2021 12:57:48 96 7
bbc
Or that Farage was full of it and in it to please his financial masters.........
65
18/01/2021 12:48:06 43 3
bbc
The same industry that Brexit was supposed to protect is about to be destroyed.... What an irony ... Feel sorry for the people affected .. If common sense was used rather rhetoric we would have not been in this situation. Wondering what other skeletons are there we are not aware off ..
18/01/2021 14:32:10 22 3
bbc
I feel sorry for the people who voted remain. I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who supported Brexit, who included the majority of fishermen. They claim they knew what they were voting for. Now they've got what they wanted, and must suffer the consequences, along with the rest of us.
47
18/01/2021 12:46:57 92 13
bbc
Silly fishermen to believe what politicians tell them. Unless it benefits politicians back pockets they dont care a fig about anyone else.
66
18/01/2021 12:48:07 33 6
bbc
Hear hear
67
18/01/2021 12:48:07 10 31
bbc
Remoaners, make the most it. When these minor teething issues are resolved you'll have to find something else to whinge about. Like Labour's slow vaccine roll out in Wales maybe, or similar in the EU nations. Now there's an idea!
131
18/01/2021 12:51:46 8 1
bbc
It just shows you what a confidence trick Brexit was. Fishing has always be very contentious ever since Ted Heath gave most of our fish away. Fishermen wanted them back, were promised them back and so voted for Brexit. Another one of Boris's lies exposed.
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stu
18/01/2021 12:54:09 0 2
bbc
oh they'll find some new bandwagon to jump on no doubt, that's their way

back to being anti-vax flat-earthers no doubt
240
18/01/2021 12:57:09 2 1
bbc
This is a typical retort from a Brexiteer, first off water a serious situation down to minor teething issues, and then try to deflect by blaming the Welsh Labour Party for something that isn't linked to fisheries and then blaming the EU for the same. Go and get a grip, it is painfully obvious that Brexit is and will be a disaster.
323
18/01/2021 13:00:20 3 1
bbc
Not teething problems, the new reality.

And Labour have had absolutely nothing to do with this mess, not from holding a referendum, right through to current implementations.
349
18/01/2021 13:01:08 1 1
bbc
On the subject of Covid...

Maybe you'd like to explain why our death rate is now soaring way and beyond that of the EU Nations you're having a pop at on vaccines.
18/01/2021 14:32:03 1 1
bbc
Got what you voted for hen? https://infacts.org/cut-keep-list-top-19-brexiteer-promises/

Don't hold your breath
68
18/01/2021 12:48:08 217 15
bbc
Fishing Industry shouldn't have voted for Brexit.
What on earth did they THINK would happen if we replaced our Member Trade Deal with this FAR MORE INFERIOR ONE.

No point having "control" of our waters if we CANNOT SELL OUR FISH.

BREXIT = MORE red tape. Not less.
BREXIT = LOST CONTROL of making the rules of "trade" - not more.

If you aren't in the room then you are on the menu!
Jim
18/01/2021 14:14:23 84 2
bbc
If these people voted Brexit did they not notice where they were sending their fish?
69
18/01/2021 12:48:10 2 17
bbc
Fine them for Covid restriction violations and parking in a bus stop.
212
18/01/2021 12:55:36 0 6
bbc
Not exactly an "essential journey", is it?
70
18/01/2021 12:48:11 201 12
bbc
But according to the Mogg fish are happier when they're British...

Not when they're rotting in the back of a pantechnicon they're not!

How did a deluded financial sector lobbyist end up as the leader of our House of Commons?
18/01/2021 14:32:24 49 4
bbc
FPTP and an alt-right media.
18/01/2021 16:33:04 6 1
bbc
"How did a deluded financial sector lobbyist end up as the leader of our House of Commons?"

...I don't know. Let's ask Somerset Capital Management. They're based in Dublin these days.
Rob
18/01/2021 22:17:34 2 0
bbc
Perhaps someone gressed the wheels.
71
18/01/2021 12:48:24 143 7
bbc
Sadly ironic that this Government's obsession with "protecting" the British fish industry has adversely affected a large part of it.
Seems the government didn't bother thinking things through properly and was just aiming for good headlines in the Brexit-supporting media.
281
18/01/2021 12:59:00 122 6
bbc
Our Regime never cared about fishing.

The Fishers got used as a propaganda tool to stir-up nationalist Brexit sentiment.

Now they're paying the price.
18/01/2021 14:39:23 6 2
bbc
Seems the government didn't bother thinking things through properly.
That'll be BoJo and his Brexit Circus.
Thinking is for losers.
72
18/01/2021 12:48:25 29 5
bbc
Well they voted for this. You reap what you sow - sorry
73
18/01/2021 12:48:27 14 3
bbc
Although they voted for Brexit I don’t want to see our fishing industry destroyed. This government is going to have to come to its senses and whilst not rejoining the EU we should rejoin the customs union and the single market. It’s called being pragmatic
151
18/01/2021 12:53:00 15 2
bbc
BRINO would have been the right way to reflect the narrow referendum result. And we'll probably end up there eventually.

But thanks to the ERG, the extremists and the bigots, the British economy will have to suffer for a few years first.
241
18/01/2021 12:57:10 4 2
bbc
Our Regime will never allow that.

The whole point of Brexit was to clear the way for their 'turbo-charged' neo-liberal agenda.

SM/CU rules on consumer/employee protections prevented that.

Get ready for the economic joke in poor taste that is "The Singapore of Europe"!
18/01/2021 14:02:56 1 1
bbc
Except we then get the same rules, the same free movement of people but no say at all in making any of those rules. Absolutely brilliant end product of Brexit stupidity.
74
18/01/2021 12:48:31 5 8
bbc
If they want to export live shellfish, then do the humanitarian thing and store them in saltwater tanks, not packed in boxes of stale air. Others have to do that already to get their products from the remote areas such as the far North West of Scotland. They simply need to adopt the same methods and of course they will end up selling a better product.
124
18/01/2021 12:51:28 4 2
bbc
While that might be a good idea, it's not going to do much to reduce the impact of Brexit on the fishermen. The Brexit red tape delays and costs will still be there.
150
stu
18/01/2021 12:52:54 0 2
bbc
surely that would 'shellfishitarian'
173
18/01/2021 12:53:51 2 2
bbc
I trust you will be supplying them with the extra investment needed to modify their transports and processing facilities.
2
Ian
18/01/2021 12:41:50 15 58
bbc
They should be protesting in Brussels. They set the rules on their imports.
75
18/01/2021 12:48:36 6 2
bbc
Beggars can't be choosers!
76
18/01/2021 12:48:38 159 15
bbc
We told you so .....! Everywhere you care to look Brexit is delivering the total chaos and economic catastrophe most sensible well informed people knew it would ... hey ho !
145
stu
18/01/2021 12:52:23 22 138
bbc
oh yeah chaos everywhere, the country has just ceased to function hasnt it

oh no wait it's just a demonstration. which is less disruptive than the remoaners have been actually if you think about it
77
18/01/2021 12:48:45 133 11
bbc
It must come as a real shame that Scottish Tories can't blame the SNP for this, Westminster took charge, and has made a complete horlicks of it (no surprises there!)
18/01/2021 14:33:11 22 1
bbc
They're trying anyway
78
18/01/2021 12:48:51 175 13
bbc
Project fear turns into project truth for captain birdseye
79
18/01/2021 12:48:51 5 19
bbc
If EU customs officials are nit picking whilst people are trying to get used to the new rules eg rejecting forms that incorrectly state UK or GB or the other way around, then we should retaliate, particularly for foods from France.
107
18/01/2021 12:50:47 11 2
bbc
EU Customs didn't vote for Brexit. They haven't created this mess. You did.
116
18/01/2021 12:51:12 4 2
bbc
Yes, let's blame the EU for Westminster's fiasco. ??
129
18/01/2021 12:50:53 3 2
bbc
You're just a silly delusional brexiteer. It's not nit picking. It's abiding by the rules as agreed by the EU and the UK govt.
141
18/01/2021 12:52:20 4 2
bbc
These are standard 3rd Country customs requirements.

Or did you really think the UK is so 'special' it could have different rules to everyone else.

Look to yourself before blaming others!
80
18/01/2021 12:48:55 5 3
bbc
Looks like I'm going to have to buy some fresh British scallops to help implement that oven-ready deal for Cpt Buffoon
81
18/01/2021 12:49:00 5 3
bbc
Raab's comments on fishing are a disgrace , there are problems it's clear to everyone. I expect all the Leavers will say The Scotsman newspaper is biased , perhaps they like the BBC actually report what is happening

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/insight-how-scottish-fishing-being-sunk-red-tape-brexit-3103190
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18/01/2021 12:52:06 3 2
bbc
Raab is actually a bigger nutjob than Johnson, and is the favourite to take the top job when Boris either throws in the towel or is knifed in the back. Shouldn't be long now.
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Neb
18/01/2021 12:44:22 2161 336
bbc
Wasn't there supposed to be less red tape instead of more?

'The easiest deal of the century'
'Oven ready'
'No downsides'

Please remember this next time you vote.
82
18/01/2021 12:49:01 1534 251
bbc
But brexiters told us that was project fear. How do they feel now?
This is only the beginning.
Brexit day 18
Trump=Brexit=Johnson=Fiasco
357
18/01/2021 13:01:49 3 35
bbc
Brexit means Brexit
963
PCS
18/01/2021 13:28:55 1 1
bbc
Maths for simple folk! PML
83
18/01/2021 12:49:05 46 3
bbc
Beware what you wish for, although why so many fisherman wished to leave by far their biggest market it is less easy to say.
18/01/2021 15:34:35 4 13
bbc
The common Fisheries Policy has emptied the English Channel, Irish and UK waters, much of the North Sea, contributed to emptying Mediterranean and is ravaging fish stocks off the west coast of Africa leading to poverty for the locals. The UK fishermen didn't want to lose their market, they just wanted to stop losing all the fish.
84
18/01/2021 12:49:13 4 11
bbc
How strange of the BBC to have a HYS on Brexit.
115
stu
18/01/2021 12:51:06 2 5
bbc
I prefer to think of it as SYUB (spout your uninformed bias)
200
18/01/2021 12:55:09 2 2
bbc
Brexit was sold as utopia' to the fishing industry amongst others. How strange that this now turns out to have been a lie which led people to vote for a party who think it's OK to trumpet blustering rubbish such as the 'fish are happier because they're British'. Absolute load of s......
306
18/01/2021 12:59:31 2 2
bbc
Tory party mistakes supply a constant flow of issues for discussion.
55
18/01/2021 12:47:43 142 13
bbc
This is project reality now. We had the best deal but instead trusted the far right erg. Now it’s project payback and those people will be worse hit. Maybe they should understand what they are voting for before being triggered into acts of treason next time
85
18/01/2021 12:49:14 12 142
bbc
Far Right!!! Blah Blah Blah Blah , funny how anyone who disgrees with anything earns this label, Bore off!
18/01/2021 13:41:05 6 3
bbc
Not lefties then who happen to disagree
18/01/2021 14:45:06 4 4
bbc
Anyone criticisng Brexit has got to be Marxist. And woke; not forgetting they are traitors; fear mongerers; not fish (!) Probably the spawn of the Devil and an "elegal" dinghy.
Brexiteers are sanctomonious too!
18/01/2021 16:59:49 4 1
bbc
How simplistic - and wrong.
86
18/01/2021 12:49:25 11 3
bbc
The Tories destroyed the mining communities and now turned to the fishing based communities. A few billion on track and trace that didn't work but nothing for industries that actual produce a physical product. Remember how the Bank's were bailed out !!
87
18/01/2021 12:49:28 47 6
bbc
They believed the Brexiteers' lies. No sympathy.
41
18/01/2021 12:46:02 338 1179
bbc
How many UK residents are affected by these teething problems.

0.01% ?
88
18/01/2021 12:49:30 248 18
bbc
Ultimately, problem by problem, tax rise by tax rise....Everybody
144
18/01/2021 12:52:23 157 13
bbc
Price raise by price raise
89
18/01/2021 12:49:37 3 5
bbc
Why can we not have more fish at better value in our markets? I’d happily buy more but it all gets shipped overseas which must double the costs!
90
18/01/2021 12:49:41 27 2
bbc
That's what we have been saying all along. The problem is NOT in the tariffs, it is in the non-tariff barriers such as paperwork! A "free" trade deal does not solve that. It is a shame the fishing industry was a huge supporter of Brexit, now they see the reality of what this means for their industry. I love fishing, and fishermen and I hope they find a way to overcome this.
91
18/01/2021 12:49:45 21 4
bbc
The fisheries communities wanted a hard Brexit without offering any compromises on fisheries to the EU. Here you see the result of their own stupidity. Without the internal market, the fisheries industry is finished.
170
18/01/2021 12:53:45 9 4
bbc
The fishing industry was promised that they would have near unfettered access to all UK waters by Johnson.

This is a problem created by the Westminster government!
92
18/01/2021 12:49:52 5 2
bbc
BBC Scotland covered fishing for months, but has eschewed it ever since the trade deal. A cynic might smell something fishy...
56
18/01/2021 12:47:44 97 4
bbc
Having had a General Export held up at Manston for 16 hours waiting for a document that is produced by UK Customs that takes 5 minutes to produce so can fully sympathize with the drivers and hauliers.
The system currently in place has to change, sooner rather than later
93
18/01/2021 12:49:56 99 6
bbc
This is the reality of 3rd Country customs requirements.

Not sure how they can change.

Unless the EU changed them for every other Nation.
94
18/01/2021 12:49:59 170 18
bbc
Dear Brexists.... TOLD YOU SO
139
18/01/2021 12:52:10 19 106
bbc
Told us what, exactly?
18/01/2021 17:12:45 3 11
bbc
Nobody who voted to leave thought it would be without issues. Remainers have built a straw man and are itching to tear it down with their "I told you so's".
36
18/01/2021 12:45:47 6 36
bbc
Well we are dealing with our friends in Europe! That's what Remainers refer to them as. I have never found the French to be particularly friendly - especially if you are not proficient in their language!
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PT
18/01/2021 12:50:02 13 1
bbc
Do you speak a foreign language at all? Even a few words. Obviously not. So you expect everyone to speak English. That's the British for you.
96
18/01/2021 12:50:09 11 4
bbc
just read over 90% of people in the fishing industry voted to leave. Incredible!
245
18/01/2021 12:57:20 0 9
bbc
That's because most people in the UK fishing industry weren't eligible to vote
Removed
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Ian
18/01/2021 12:50:11 63 12
bbc
????????????????????????????????????????

"Exports of fresh fish and seafood have been severely disrupted by new border controls since the UK's transition period ended earlier this month."

I thought Brexit was meant to be getting back control of our fishing?

If you vote for a liar ?? you can't live off lies!

So what's the advantage of Brexit again?

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18/01/2021 12:51:50 9 48
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You really wouldn't understand. But it's not to do with fish.
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18/01/2021 12:55:02 8 5
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No but you can live off fish, eat more fish if you want to support our fishing industry.
Bob
19/01/2021 09:58:29 1 0
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'So what's the advantage of Brexit again?'

So you didn't hear that ...the clowns are chanting 'sovereignty'...
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18/01/2021 12:45:55 488 32
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If only someone had warned them Johnson was untrustworthy
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18/01/2021 12:50:20 8 2
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If only
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18/01/2021 12:44:01 9 34
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Compensate the shell fishing industry and play hardball back on al lEU imports. Pay particular attention to confiscating truck drivers sandwiches.
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18/01/2021 12:50:21 1 11
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reply to Joseph Dejacque absolutely , time for a bit of tit for tat , OH and how did we guess that the BBC would list this topic for the remoaners to carp on about , when there was no such platform for the Reading killings