Chip-shortage 'crisis' halts car-company output
18/01/2021 | news | technology | 886
A shortage of computer chips is leading to car factories shutting down for days at a time.
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18/01/2021 15:41:33 9 40
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Hope you brexiteers are happy now ????
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18/01/2021 15:43:07 8 24
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They will never be happy. They are sore "winners".
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18/01/2021 15:43:23 27 3
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Audi doesn't have a UK factory. Nor does the article imply it does at any point. How is this anything to do with Brexit?
Nothing to do with Brexit you muppet. Try reading the article rather than jumping Immediately to the HYS. Removed
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18/01/2021 15:49:50 11 0
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What in heavens name has this to do with Brexit, numpty!
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18/01/2021 15:44:51 11 0
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What part of the article did u actually read ?
The parts come from China and they are manufactured in Germany.
What part of Brexit exactly applied to this situation?
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18/01/2021 16:05:26 9 0
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As a Remainer myself, you really aren't helping the cause.
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18/01/2021 16:41:55 4 0
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nothing to do with Brexit,
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18/01/2021 17:33:28 4 0
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I'm a remainer but you need to look at the story-it's NOTHING to do with brexit. Manufacturers cut orders, suppliers made less so can't supply more than they made. We have been qoted delivery times of over a year for some componets we use and that was before COVID.
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19/01/2021 12:09:29 0 0
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What is your point?
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18/01/2021 15:41:58 103 29
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I'm sure people don't need to change their cars so often, just to keep up with the Joneses.

Plus, cars are doing less mileage due to Covid.

So this is a nontroversy.
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18/01/2021 16:32:16 31 18
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if there was no demand you would be right
unfortunately you are not
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18/01/2021 16:49:01 1 3
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But might have been if we still manufactured cars.
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JC
18/01/2021 16:55:31 4 0
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I agree, cars are generally more reliable than they use to be despite the complexity much of which is to keep emmisions down. Elecric cars should be simpler still but also require electonic management. However it's still an issue because a lot of people depend the motor industry for employment.
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18/01/2021 17:26:13 4 5
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But I like to change my car every year and why shouldn't I be able to? Politics of envy at work again?
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19/01/2021 08:37:07 1 1
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I'm sure smartphones don't need to be upgraded so much either. If they weren't upgraded so much then the servers wouldn't need to be upgraded either.
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18/01/2021 15:42:13 40 6
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Comes at the best time as no one is buying news cars as nowhere to go
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18/01/2021 18:03:54 12 2
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Not my experience at work, half of us in the shop have the hump because we're being dragged in to work to prep new cars when we're all supposed to be at home not spreading this virus about. We're supposed to be open to look after people's cars so they have transport when they need it but we're also sorting out 50k and up motors for delivery, the well off haven't taken a hit it seems.
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18/01/2021 15:42:14 463 36
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It’s time for companies to be less reliant on China
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The whole world is reliant on China because they do things cheaper (poor health and safety, no workers rights). The reason companies moved their production their is because they could charge about the same but with better profit margins. Better profit margins = better dividends = better CEO pay.

Capitalism is the reason production moved to China.
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18/01/2021 15:49:49 27 39
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Its time you realised how powerful China is. The reason people have to buy from China is because China have all the precious metal mines used to get precious metals in the manufacture of tech equipment. If you can't mine the ore, you cant produce the precious metals and you cant manufacture the chips. China can.
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18/01/2021 15:45:28 59 14
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Let’s all be less reliant on China full stop!!
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18/01/2021 15:57:21 32 6
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we were until consumers i.e. us wanted cheaper prices ,
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Bob
18/01/2021 16:00:31 46 3
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Most chips are fab'd outside of China. China is by no means a small player in the market - but countries like Taiwan and South Korea lead the way.
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18/01/2021 16:09:40 40 6
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I agree.... but we actually have a decent microchip manufacturing in Northern Ireland, why not shift production to them?
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18/01/2021 16:15:35 30 13
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No, it's time for us to be less reliant on cars.
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18/01/2021 16:26:55 3 7
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Well. Blame Obama and 99.9% of Business leaders
USA will loose top spot. Spratley islands will be Chinese and probably Taiwan too
Slow down in car production is a very minor issue indeed
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18/01/2021 16:40:20 5 1
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So would you prefer to be reliant on Taiwan, South Korea, the US?
We're reliant on ghe world for most thing; we make lirttle.
China is cheaper than us in making virtually anything.
Almost no country in the world is self- reliant now.
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18/01/2021 16:43:33 0 1
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What? End Project Capitalism?

Loony.
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18/01/2021 17:01:00 3 0
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Unpicking 20 years of outsourcing is not going to be easy and we will still want to have a situation where we can trade with one another rather than sitting in unfriendly self reliant armed blocs.
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18/01/2021 17:03:16 0 3
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And who do you suggest should replace them? It certainly won't be us (UK) as we're far too expensive, The EU is now out of bounds as per the article, too much paperwork, so I'm honestly asking the question, Who will replace China? We're all assuming brexiteers have the answer because they voted for it!!!!
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18/01/2021 17:06:16 4 2
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I can't see anywhere in the article where it says this is about reliance on China. It says car manufacturers cut back their orders too far and are now struggling to reactivate supply chain. This is a universal scheduling problem and is not necessarily unique to China.
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18/01/2021 17:11:22 1 0
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Good luck on setting up the semiconductor fabs needed to replace the production from Chinese and Taiwan fabs within the next ten years.
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18/01/2021 17:19:17 1 0
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Meanwhile China bucks growth targets in a ++ direction, penny dropped!!!!
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18/01/2021 17:22:22 0 2
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It's time for us all to be less reliant on China.
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18/01/2021 17:44:24 3 1
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This is an irrelevant comment - there is nothing to blame China for - if anything they are the only ones who are able to respond quickly. The issue is one of bad forecasting and the dangers of minimising stock levels.
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18/01/2021 15:43:06 10 4
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Who want a car full of chips anyway?
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18/01/2021 16:25:50 5 1
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Our local chippy does takeaway only. People sit in their cars eating overlooking the backdrop of Morecamb Bay before it gets cold. Lots of them (it's a good chippy). Smells like they all run on vinegar too!
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18/01/2021 15:41:33 9 40
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Hope you brexiteers are happy now ????
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18/01/2021 15:43:07 8 24
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They will never be happy. They are sore "winners".
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18/01/2021 15:41:33 9 40
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Hope you brexiteers are happy now ????
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18/01/2021 15:43:23 27 3
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Audi doesn't have a UK factory. Nor does the article imply it does at any point. How is this anything to do with Brexit?
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18/01/2021 15:47:22 4 5
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I think that is his point. If this was happening in the UK remoaners would be very quick to blame it on Brexit. See the HYS comments on the trampolines article
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18/01/2021 15:44:35 15 6
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That is fine, do not waste chip making capacity on daft cars get graphics cards new chips churned out.
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18/01/2021 16:26:42 7 3
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Is there anything that is outside your house that you actually approve of?
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18/01/2021 15:43:32 24 22
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Wait for it .. Remoaners will somehow try to pin this on Brexit .. again ??
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18/01/2021 15:46:41 10 2
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Not everything is about Brexit
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18/01/2021 15:47:42 7 9
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We've no need to, there is plenty of other stuff happening that really IS showing brexit to be wrexit.
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18/01/2021 15:41:33 9 40
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Hope you brexiteers are happy now ????
Nothing to do with Brexit you muppet. Try reading the article rather than jumping Immediately to the HYS. Removed
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18/01/2021 15:45:21 136 30
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Stick in a carburetor in the engine, winders for the windows, rack and pinion steering and no need for any microchips aha its been done before but oh oh emission rules says: no carbs without chips !!
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18/01/2021 15:59:26 115 15
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And get rid of electronic handbrakes so I can do handbrake turns once more, good fun in snow.

Disclaimer: only competent drivers should attempt this otherwise loss of no claims bonus and police action could result.
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18/01/2021 16:14:30 7 17
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And get millions more children dying of urban pollution related issues. Brilliant idea.
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18/01/2021 16:32:59 11 4
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i think your knowledge of modern tech may be very limited
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18/01/2021 18:07:47 5 0
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Yes sure. We can go back to the dodgy reliability of those cars as well.

If a production car in the 70', 80's & early 90's reached 100k without something terminal happening it used to get a telegram from the queen.
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18/01/2021 18:24:47 1 1
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Ho-ho, and land up with about 18 mpg.
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18/01/2021 15:45:24 11 1
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I thought the car industry had already "had it's chips".
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18/01/2021 15:45:53 9 8
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Chips? They're just trying to balance all the Brexiteers shouting "Fish".
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18/01/2021 15:46:09 13 4
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Good news for the global ecosystems. Carry on like this please!
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18/01/2021 15:46:12 152 30
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EU and China issue nothing to do with Brexit or the UK
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18/01/2021 15:48:07 35 68
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Irrelevant
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18/01/2021 15:52:14 15 4
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Nissan and Toyota are mentioned among the companies affected by this issue. Are you unaware that they have factories in the UK?
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18/01/2021 16:29:00 6 1
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Yep. All about German vehicle and machine part production
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18/01/2021 16:31:22 6 4
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and your point is
it does have to do with UK manufacturing or having cars you can buy
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18/01/2021 16:37:39 15 0
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It's not about China/EU/Brexit politics at all, just good old fashioned supply and demand.
Car companies thought demand would be down, so cut their orders. Other areas have taken up the slack (e.g. the new consoles selling by millions) and now demand for cars is greater than anticipated they are struggling to get the volume back.
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18/01/2021 16:43:46 5 12
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Correct, but when Audi and others can't make deliveries to the UK and prices go up that will be because of Bexit.....this article will be long forgotten by then.
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18/01/2021 16:48:12 7 1
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Funny how
China has no issues with EU customs holdups
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18/01/2021 16:53:24 17 2
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Won’t stop the brain deads linking it to Brexit
But Brexit is allowing us to vaccinate against the Chinese virus without having to ask the EU, who seem to behamstrung by their own burocracy.
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18/01/2021 18:02:49 0 0
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Obviously. The article didn't make any link either.

At least it saves us from the inanities of comments from the 'Defunders'
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18/01/2021 18:14:00 0 1
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Funny day to be defensive about Brexit...
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19/01/2021 00:34:24 0 0
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Brexit? Probably not. But it would be folly to instantly dismiss whether this has anything to do with the UK.
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18/01/2021 15:46:25 35 4
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So this is actually a mistake by the manufacturers to appreciate the lack of flexibility in their suppliers.

This is very bad risk management - but all the manufacturers are effected so it would be surprising to see they are all that bad

What it does really suggest in the flexing of economic muscle by the manufacturers (or maybe their government) and that those suppliers have lied about capacity
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18/01/2021 16:46:01 27 0
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I work in the Industry, when these suppliers had a load of orders cancelled last year they looked to pivot quickly to sell those chip sets or similar chip sets into other applications and/or switched process to make use of the silicon wafers into different end packages. Taiwan / Singapore / China / EMEA / USA all have capability - but car chips are low tech so are made on legacy tools in china.
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18/01/2021 17:02:38 0 0
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They do have ghe capacity, as long as their supplierz have the capacity, and their suppliers, ad inf.
Weak link in chain breaks chain.
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18/01/2021 15:43:32 24 22
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Wait for it .. Remoaners will somehow try to pin this on Brexit .. again ??
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18/01/2021 15:46:41 10 2
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Not everything is about Brexit
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18/01/2021 15:53:19 5 1
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Tell that to the Remoaners and their asinine comments!
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18/01/2021 15:46:56 4 4
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Buy an iPad put it on a roller and skate and hey presto a new car!
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18/01/2021 15:47:11 6 9
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Wonderful planning by those German experts! "vorsprung durch technik"????
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18/01/2021 16:02:13 4 2
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at least they have a Car industry
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18/01/2021 15:47:12 7 12
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Buy British.
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18/01/2021 15:53:36 4 0
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Who would that be then Morgan TVR Morris?
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18/01/2021 15:53:59 4 1
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And which british car company would you like us to buy?
Vauxhall are owned by the French.
Jaguar are owned by India.
MG are chinese.
Bentley are German owned.
Rolls Royce are German owned.
Aston Martin are sort of british owned but its mostly just a BMW in pretty skin.
Mclaren are pretty much the only British owned and operated car company out there but are a smidge outside my price range.
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19/01/2021 12:15:57 0 0
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How, what, why?
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18/01/2021 15:47:16 220 18
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Over reliance on China is a big problem for the west. We should look to bringing manufacturing capability back home. However, does the world really need more new cars? Manufacturers now rely on very low interest rates to finance personal leases on cars. The whole edifice would crumble if interest rates went back to what they were in the 70s.
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18/01/2021 15:58:40 91 11
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Well, it seems we'll ALL need new cars - electric ones. It's government policy you know!
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18/01/2021 16:23:50 8 0
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Even if we brought manufacturer to the UK, we'd still be dependent on raw material unless we spent considerable effort on recycling/making technology more sustainable - which, I think, is ultimately what we need to be doing
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18/01/2021 17:26:41 6 1
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Completely agree, lots of other countries, definately the UK can make the chips, but its all about quantity and price. Far too reliant on China for far too many things and not just chips, clear warning call for companies outside of China to listen and address before its too late. Look beyond the profit, look closer to keeping a business going!
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18/01/2021 18:00:52 0 0
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While that sounds like a great idea you try getting anything made in the UK. Delivery times will be several times as long at inflated prices.
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18/01/2021 15:47:21 149 24
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If you don't make the component yourself don't complain when there are shortages. Bring manufacturing home where you can control it.
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Bob
18/01/2021 15:52:14 47 26
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Yes I am sure companies will invest in spending billions on fab units so that they can make a couple of semiconductors for themselves.
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18/01/2021 16:01:42 2 2
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Yeah, because the the public will buy more expensive British cars
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18/01/2021 16:19:24 5 1
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Just where will you get the raw materials from?
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18/01/2021 16:53:51 2 0
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In my garage?
Bit crowded.
Anyway, it's my brewery.
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JC
18/01/2021 17:08:44 3 0
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Sounds good in theory but impractical. Most parts of a car are outsourced to companies that specialise in them. Some parts may be designed in-house but manufacturers largely just assemble the components from third party suppliers. Even Morgan, who hand build their cars, buy in engines and other mechanical parts.
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18/01/2021 17:44:17 5 0
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A full 'Model T' type production would be expensive. If a sub contractor can make indicator stalks for several complanies they keep the costs down due to economy of scale. The co. I work for makes nearly everything in-house because we the right size to and no-one else makes exactly what we do.

Only about 20-30% of a car is 'made' in house, which is why they are called assembly lines
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18/01/2021 23:18:21 1 0
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the investment to manufacture chips is MASSIVE. You dont just turn one on like a hoover assembly line - and even THOSE Dyson moved out of the UK
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18/01/2021 23:51:43 0 0
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consumers don't want to pay for the higher cost to manufacture here, when they could buy something imported for a lot less
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19/01/2021 16:49:00 0 0
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Tesla....
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18/01/2021 15:43:23 27 3
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Audi doesn't have a UK factory. Nor does the article imply it does at any point. How is this anything to do with Brexit?
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18/01/2021 15:47:22 4 5
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I think that is his point. If this was happening in the UK remoaners would be very quick to blame it on Brexit. See the HYS comments on the trampolines article
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18/01/2021 15:43:32 24 22
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Wait for it .. Remoaners will somehow try to pin this on Brexit .. again ??
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18/01/2021 15:47:42 7 9
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We've no need to, there is plenty of other stuff happening that really IS showing brexit to be wrexit.
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18/01/2021 15:53:53 4 4
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You prove my point exactly.
Irony probably lost on you
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18/01/2021 15:47:48 27 4
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So predictable.... Anybody who didn't see this coming must have been living on planet Zorg.
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18/01/2021 15:57:47 11 1
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Where's that, and do they make chips??
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18/01/2021 15:46:12 152 30
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EU and China issue nothing to do with Brexit or the UK
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18/01/2021 15:48:07 35 68
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Irrelevant
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18/01/2021 15:58:03 20 7
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Extremely relevant when you have EU ultras making such silly linkages.
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18/01/2021 17:28:42 8 2
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But some idiot would blame Brexit sooner or later.
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19/01/2021 10:49:38 0 0
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To Brexit it is, though I wonder what section of the population purchase Audis? Not your Northern Working Class voter I suspect or even Old Gammon ;-)
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18/01/2021 15:48:22 5 8
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Who would have thought Premium German cars like Audi use Chinese chips.....
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Name me one German chip fabricator?
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18/01/2021 15:49:04 2 2
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I didn't think anyone was buying new cars anyway?
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18/01/2021 15:51:46 2 1
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well, it seems the car makers have all be surprised by the size of the demand as well. I can't see where the demand is coming from. Who wants to buy a new car just to put it on the driveway?
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18/01/2021 15:42:14 463 36
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It’s time for companies to be less reliant on China
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The whole world is reliant on China because they do things cheaper (poor health and safety, no workers rights). The reason companies moved their production their is because they could charge about the same but with better profit margins. Better profit margins = better dividends = better CEO pay.

Capitalism is the reason production moved to China.
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* move their production ‘there’ not ‘their’*
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I think you will find it is globalism that brought this about. Capitalism just jumped on it with their eager, greedy hands. CEO (obscene) pay seems to rule all.
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18/01/2021 16:13:59 8 1
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And cheaper car prices
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18/01/2021 16:21:50 13 1
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"Capitalism is the reason production moved to China."

The irony of that is inescapable - and now the companies that have been merrily putting all their eggs in one basket for so long are seeing the folly of simplistically turning a blind eye to considerations other than price.
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18/01/2021 16:25:43 5 1
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Yes China does make things cheaper, even when taking account the transport costs but it's our own fault that China has become so prominent. CEO pay is irrelevant, faced with the choice of two similar products the great British public will nearly always choose the one that costs the less and any British manufacturer has to compete with them on price or go out of business.
Not no mention the lower prices consumers continually demand. Oh, you didn't.
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18/01/2021 16:34:14 5 1
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“Capitalism is the reason production moved to China.”

Not really, it is expensive environmental laws, expensive health and safety laws, expensive energy costs and all taxes that are the biggest costs in manufacturing. Labour is only a modest percentage of manufacturing costs especially in electronics manufacturing.
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18/01/2021 16:36:09 2 2
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"The whole world is reliant on China because they do things cheaper (poor health and safety, no workers rights)." @theprowerwins.

It looks like the Capitalists are providing work and pay to the poor sods in Communist China who have no rights then.
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18/01/2021 16:37:26 2 9
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Now Brexit's here we should be able to compete.
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18/01/2021 16:45:48 2 2
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Cheap
Hazardous
Imports
Now
Available,

Says it all I think.
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18/01/2021 16:49:27 2 5
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No, the socialist's (UK unions) refusal to adopt automated and cnc manufacturing in the 50s and 60s is the reason we rely on China.
Socialists didn't like piece meal workers being laid off in place of robots, but as the rights here are so high it became uneconomical to produce anything, we pay a worker more than the value of the product they make!
Socialism only works with slave labour.
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18/01/2021 16:59:35 2 1
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And don't forget their large scale use of slave labour.
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Allied to absolute GREED
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18/01/2021 17:15:23 0 0
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Capitalism combined with globalisation* is the reason production moved to China.
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Guv
18/01/2021 17:27:53 0 0
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Quite ironic really.
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18/01/2021 17:35:27 2 1
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sounds like Europe didnt Ford and Land Rover move production to Slovakia. with huge grants from the EU...
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18/01/2021 17:46:02 0 0
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A broad truth but unfortunately we’re all on the hook. They can only supply where there is demand. We pay the price and buy the goods, we cause the problem.
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18/01/2021 15:49:14 5 3
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And here was I thinking it must have been a shortage of potatoes in the canteen thatwas causing a furora
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When you have so few leading edge silicon foundries and put them in strategically vulnerable areas problems are going to arise.

What would the West do should the East close it's doors ?

Outsourcing doesn't look like such a good idea now.
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18/01/2021 16:19:03 71 60
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Ultimately the consumer is responsible. They want cheaper products. Manufacturers seek lowest possible source. So cheapest provider gets the parts contract

Ask the consumer to pay extra so the car they are not buying can use components manufactured in rsilient high cost factories - you're havin' a larf!
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Never has done.
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but you want cheap now
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18/01/2021 16:47:02 9 1
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Not a lot of people remember, but in the 70s and 80s we had a number of very good electronic manufacturing plants in this country. IBM in Greenock and Portsmouth, ICL in Stevenage and many smaller ones in every corner of the country.
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18/01/2021 16:47:59 2 0
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The East won't close it's doors simply because the West is it's most profitable market. However it may throttle output back on occasions to show that they have the upper hand in the market place.
There are exceptions to this as proved by Brexit of course.
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18/01/2021 16:58:05 0 0
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anyone remember 96-ish when one of the only RAM manufacturing buildings in the world burnt down (I think?)
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18/01/2021 17:00:53 0 0
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A bit like our reliance of China for PPE last year.
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18/01/2021 19:14:34 0 0
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Even worse when you consider that ALL modern 'fighting vehicles', planes, ships et al require thousands of these. We cant go to war without the Chinese supplying our needs so they are guaranteed safe. At least until HMG wakes up to the strategic need for manufacturing of everything from Steel to Silicon, from Rubber to copper.
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18/01/2021 19:24:01 1 0
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I like the idea that you think we "put them" in China. But this has nothing to do with outsourcing.
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18/01/2021 15:49:34 5 7
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It should be no surprise that the Chinese Economy grew.
Everybody and their uncle moved manufacturing there to make more money, cheap wages, globalisation.
So as it manufactures everything from Cheap tat PPE to IPhones when there is demand its going to be the 1st economy to start after being last to finish.

Phony Tony Tory Blair must be so proud given he was a Globilisation zealot.
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18/01/2021 15:53:16 9 1
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And Brits love cheap cheap cheap......manufacture here in UK and nobody would want to pay the prices.....
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18/01/2021 15:49:45 2 7
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Clearly the fault of failure to complete a UK customs declaration or queues at Dover
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18/01/2021 15:55:10 4 1
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Nothing at all to do with that or Britain. Why would China ship chips from the UK into the EU?

Once again....read the article before commenting it's pathetic.

Car manufactures got demand wrong and didn't order enough and the chips are used in various items.

But don't read something properly to understand it.
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It’s time for companies to be less reliant on China
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Its time you realised how powerful China is. The reason people have to buy from China is because China have all the precious metal mines used to get precious metals in the manufacture of tech equipment. If you can't mine the ore, you cant produce the precious metals and you cant manufacture the chips. China can.
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18/01/2021 16:16:51 2 1
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You are getting a bit carried away, the big mining companies own a lot of the mines and they are multinational businesses, many quoted on our stock exchange such as Rio Tinto and Anglo American
149
18/01/2021 16:17:24 9 4
bbc
Rubbish. They get a lot of their minerals and coal from Australia. Australia could always pull the plug on supplying China.
175
18/01/2021 16:22:14 6 1
bbc
Er.. no. Africa and Australia also have mines..
282
18/01/2021 16:40:01 2 1
bbc
Not so much Precious metals as Rare Earth Metals. China accounts for >90% of the global output. Other countries can produce but nowhere near the reserves China has.
1
18/01/2021 15:41:33 9 40
bbc
Hope you brexiteers are happy now ????
35
18/01/2021 15:49:50 11 0
bbc
What in heavens name has this to do with Brexit, numpty!
1
18/01/2021 15:41:33 9 40
bbc
Hope you brexiteers are happy now ????
36
18/01/2021 15:44:51 11 0
bbc
What part of the article did u actually read ?
The parts come from China and they are manufactured in Germany.
What part of Brexit exactly applied to this situation?
????
4
18/01/2021 15:42:14 463 36
bbc
It’s time for companies to be less reliant on China
37
18/01/2021 15:45:28 59 14
bbc
Let’s all be less reliant on China full stop!!
Obviously the chips are essential as Audi would not be able to cheat the emissions test without them Removed
58
18/01/2021 15:54:31 9 5
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or all the other car manufacturers
39
18/01/2021 15:50:54 3 12
bbc
Well I hope you brexiters are happy now, first no fish and now not even chips are available. Aldi are always selling out anyhow you should try tescos or sainsburys.
48
18/01/2021 15:52:16 5 3
bbc
did you even read the full article?
111
18/01/2021 16:06:32 0 0
bbc
Nothing to do with Brexit. Germany and China involved. Doh!!
40
18/01/2021 15:46:30 8 13
bbc
Dont buy EU crap.
57
18/01/2021 15:53:54 8 2
bbc
Buy British Leyland
74
18/01/2021 15:57:16 3 1
bbc
you would have a pretty rubbish life if you only bought british, but you probably do anyway.
83
18/01/2021 15:58:28 1 0
bbc
Yeah buy "British"!
105
18/01/2021 16:04:18 0 0
bbc
There speaks a man who never purchased an Austin Allegro.
Nothing to do with Brexit you muppet. Try reading the article rather than jumping Immediately to the HYS. Removed
Removed
42
18/01/2021 15:51:25 52 3
bbc
So, knowing that the supply is tight, the manufacturers cut their orders. Now they are busier than expected, they can't get the supply. Maybe there's a lesson in there somewhere about keeping a larger stock of hard to get hold of components
63
18/01/2021 15:56:00 63 4
bbc
Agreed, but wouldn't be nice for us to invest in some home grown high tech manufacturing capabilities to provide security of domestic supply and be able to compete on the global stage!
134
18/01/2021 16:13:56 3 1
bbc
Exactly! Poor planning by them, especially in the current circumstances of the last year, i would have thought they would have built up a bit of a stockpile before then reducing their orders. Someone will be getting a bit of a telling off.
355
18/01/2021 16:52:57 2 0
bbc
The cost of electonics/circuits in a car has risen from 5% in the 1970s to 40% in 2020 and will rise to 50% by end of the decade. Its no longer just keeping a few extra boxes of stock the costs involved are huge.
43
18/01/2021 15:51:37 329 6
bbc
Good selection of discussions today! First fish and now chips! :-)
62
18/01/2021 15:55:13 89 12
bbc
When do we get the Mushy Peas and Curry Sauce
216
18/01/2021 16:28:56 12 2
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Guess that's made up my mind as to what to have for dinner tonight
Just off to the local chippy, Haddock, chips and double mushy peas with a pot of strong tea
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DrR
18/01/2021 16:37:39 7 1
bbc
If Audi can't get chips why not use noodles instead, China makes a lot of them.
275
18/01/2021 16:38:12 7 8
bbc
And with Boris in charge it’ll be followed by a large portion of fudge.
309
MVS
18/01/2021 16:44:50 1 0
bbc
And I misread your byline as "Birdseye".
376
18/01/2021 16:57:26 6 0
bbc
Very good. Would be good to get an HYS about those poor impoverished Tennis players isolating in Australia.
28
18/01/2021 15:49:04 2 2
bbc
I didn't think anyone was buying new cars anyway?
44
18/01/2021 15:51:46 2 1
bbc
well, it seems the car makers have all be surprised by the size of the demand as well. I can't see where the demand is coming from. Who wants to buy a new car just to put it on the driveway?
22
18/01/2021 15:47:21 149 24
bbc
If you don't make the component yourself don't complain when there are shortages. Bring manufacturing home where you can control it.
45
Bob
18/01/2021 15:52:14 47 26
bbc
Yes I am sure companies will invest in spending billions on fab units so that they can make a couple of semiconductors for themselves.
286
18/01/2021 16:40:52 0 3
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actually there are labs in the UK one being in Plymouth.
15
18/01/2021 15:46:12 152 30
bbc
EU and China issue nothing to do with Brexit or the UK
46
18/01/2021 15:52:14 15 4
bbc
Nissan and Toyota are mentioned among the companies affected by this issue. Are you unaware that they have factories in the UK?
47
18/01/2021 15:52:15 42 17
bbc
Abusing the furlough system for an inability to acquire the components they need, nothing to do with Covid, but making the taxpayer pick up the bill.
177
18/01/2021 16:22:24 21 13
bbc
"Nothing to do with Covid"
Err, as the article explains, Covid was the reason they cut their orders in the first place.
So whilst it is not a direct result of Covid it is very clearly an indirect one.
311
18/01/2021 16:45:17 6 0
bbc
While it's not made especially clear in the article, there is is difference between a (UK) government subsidised Furlough Scheme and the car industry regularly furloughing their employees (at their own expense) when demand drops, which is what I believe is happening here.
In either event, Audi don't make cars in the UK, so this is not something that UK taxpayers are paying for.
608
18/01/2021 18:12:29 1 0
bbc
I would Google VAG factories and go to Wikipedia if I were you, the only VAG factory in the uk produces Bentley vehicles and they're still operating??????? so unless the government are covering furlough for other countries now you're a mile off given the bloke quoted iS the head of VAG.
39
18/01/2021 15:50:54 3 12
bbc
Well I hope you brexiters are happy now, first no fish and now not even chips are available. Aldi are always selling out anyhow you should try tescos or sainsburys.
48
18/01/2021 15:52:16 5 3
bbc
did you even read the full article?
49
18/01/2021 15:52:39 3 4
bbc
Why waste your money on new cars, great return on investment, 70% loss in value after 3 years. Unless of course you drive a company car, usually of Foreign origin.

Hopefully, the Chancellor will take note and tax that luxury perk to pay for those seeking to maintain a £20 increase on Universal Credit.
68
18/01/2021 15:56:17 1 2
bbc
Or those wanting the UC, could get a job and a car thrown in?
50
18/01/2021 15:52:56 7 9
bbc
I hope they don't mean that they're putting workers on Covid19 furlough because of brexit issues?

If the reason they aren't working is not CV19 related, then they shouldn't be using the government scheme.
66
18/01/2021 15:56:14 7 4
bbc
Brexit.....ha ha ha ha ...every problem in the world is due to Brexit. I hope you are not in charge of anything important!
103
18/01/2021 16:03:58 0 1
bbc
What on earth has Brexit got to do with a German company sourcing components from China. Showing a bit of ignorance here and blaming Brexit for totally unrelated things. Maybe you need to get a bit more education on geography and economics.
51
18/01/2021 15:52:57 5 1
bbc
@Ray mac

I hear the next shortage is with Kermit the Frog costumes so you should be worried.
32
18/01/2021 15:49:34 5 7
bbc
It should be no surprise that the Chinese Economy grew.
Everybody and their uncle moved manufacturing there to make more money, cheap wages, globalisation.
So as it manufactures everything from Cheap tat PPE to IPhones when there is demand its going to be the 1st economy to start after being last to finish.

Phony Tony Tory Blair must be so proud given he was a Globilisation zealot.
52
18/01/2021 15:53:16 9 1
bbc
And Brits love cheap cheap cheap......manufacture here in UK and nobody would want to pay the prices.....
155
18/01/2021 16:18:23 0 0
bbc
Nobody would want to pay the prices, or nobody could afford to? Can we afford not to?
53
18/01/2021 15:53:22 99 17
bbc
There are so many unsold new cars about clogging up disused airfields, who cares if motor manufacturers can't add to the stockpiles for 6 months, or more?

Who needs a ruddy new car now anyhow?
And if you do there are so many ex demonstrators and low mileage nearly new cars stacked 10 deep on garage forecourts.

Get a grip.
173
18/01/2021 16:22:07 27 9
bbc
You seem to be applying British statistics to a global sales base. Does China have airfields and forecourts full of German cars?
291
18/01/2021 16:41:52 3 0
bbc
Surely it's more an issue about people losing their jobs?
431
18/01/2021 17:08:36 4 0
bbc
Besides, with all the laid up aircraft either mothballed or awaiting scrapping because of Covid, space at airfields is at a premium.
That's something we can't import from China on the cheap.
454
18/01/2021 17:19:07 3 0
bbc
The UK has a shortage of cars people want. Everything built in 2020 had to be registered before 1/1/21 because of RDE2 (Dont even ask what that is). Stock levels and auction sales are at a all time low. Companies changing to EVs and Plug In hybrids which are significantly cheaper in whole life terms than Petrol or Diesel which are the ones left in the field.
539
18/01/2021 17:40:48 3 0
bbc
And, because people are hardly using their cars, they (the cars) will last much longer without being replaced. Additionally, with much less driving, will the insurance companies lower their premiums? I think we all know the answer to that!
742
18/01/2021 22:33:46 2 0
bbc
not sure where this nonsense is coming from, I sell new cars and the real issue is a shortage of cars.
where is the forecourt you describe?, I'll get down there and buy up some stock!
797
19/01/2021 08:39:45 2 0
bbc
Never ever buy new and never will. Had BMW’s for years and low mileage used ones are an excellent bargain where the previous owner has lost thousands in depreciation!
20
18/01/2021 15:47:12 7 12
bbc
Buy British.
54
18/01/2021 15:53:36 4 0
bbc
Who would that be then Morgan TVR Morris?
119
18/01/2021 16:08:32 2 0
bbc
Morgand is Italian, TVR Russian But not manufacturing), Morris died a long time ago. Jaguar - Indian; Land Rover - Indian; Vauxhall - American, now French; Lotus - Chinese; MINI - German; Bentley - German; Rolls Royce - German; Nissan - French/Japanese .....
55
18/01/2021 15:53:46 9 3
bbc
They shouldn't have used all them others up to try and kid the emissions testing
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MLB
18/01/2021 15:53:53 63 10
bbc
Money rules for the big companies, that is why china has their fingers in all of the production around the world, not a good idea at all.
85
18/01/2021 15:58:34 8 38
bbc
Nowt to do with money, more to do with capability.
40
18/01/2021 15:46:30 8 13
bbc
Dont buy EU crap.
57
18/01/2021 15:53:54 8 2
bbc
Buy British Leyland
71
18/01/2021 15:56:56 1 0
bbc
you missed the word crap!
93
18/01/2021 16:01:26 2 0
bbc
How is your Allegro BTW?
Obviously the chips are essential as Audi would not be able to cheat the emissions test without them Removed
58
18/01/2021 15:54:31 9 5
bbc
or all the other car manufacturers
191
18/01/2021 16:25:39 0 0
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Proof of others please?
59
18/01/2021 15:54:58 9 9
bbc
China is hoarding chips. Has been for awhile now. They are a serious threat to the West more than ever
70
18/01/2021 15:56:27 10 0
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Curious how you know this?
92
18/01/2021 16:01:22 4 0
bbc
When asked to comment Chris Grayling said that, if China is indeed hoarding, the UK will simply make more of its own chips. A spokesman from DEFRA later pointed out that the happless ex-Transport Secretary had confused this issue with potato farming.
317
18/01/2021 16:46:08 0 0
bbc
Why would you hoard chips that will be obsolete in a few years?
60
18/01/2021 15:55:03 4 2
bbc
No Chinese chips. Just my Peking duck.
33
18/01/2021 15:49:45 2 7
bbc
Clearly the fault of failure to complete a UK customs declaration or queues at Dover
61
18/01/2021 15:55:10 4 1
bbc
Nothing at all to do with that or Britain. Why would China ship chips from the UK into the EU?

Once again....read the article before commenting it's pathetic.

Car manufactures got demand wrong and didn't order enough and the chips are used in various items.

But don't read something properly to understand it.
101
18/01/2021 16:03:54 0 0
bbc
Nothing at all to do with Britain. Yep, you can be sure that, when it comes to high-tech manufacturing, it has nothing at all to do with Britain.
43
18/01/2021 15:51:37 329 6
bbc
Good selection of discussions today! First fish and now chips! :-)
62
18/01/2021 15:55:13 89 12
bbc
When do we get the Mushy Peas and Curry Sauce
113
18/01/2021 16:07:22 3 9
bbc
Dahn sarf it is Guacamole.......
288
18/01/2021 16:41:45 2 0
bbc
Curry sauce with mushy peas??

I thought my tastes were eclectic, but that?
374
18/01/2021 16:57:03 2 0
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when the audi hits someone
521
18/01/2021 17:35:48 2 0
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We're certainly getting a good battering
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rs
18/01/2021 17:51:47 1 0
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He was speaking at 5 o'clock
598
18/01/2021 18:04:34 1 0
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Gravy!
622
18/01/2021 18:21:04 0 0
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You can listen to Today in Parliament any time, there's plenty of both
790
19/01/2021 08:32:27 0 0
bbc
When the restaurants complain about a shortage staff of available.
818
19/01/2021 09:54:35 0 0
bbc
Gravy!
42
18/01/2021 15:51:25 52 3
bbc
So, knowing that the supply is tight, the manufacturers cut their orders. Now they are busier than expected, they can't get the supply. Maybe there's a lesson in there somewhere about keeping a larger stock of hard to get hold of components
63
18/01/2021 15:56:00 63 4
bbc
Agreed, but wouldn't be nice for us to invest in some home grown high tech manufacturing capabilities to provide security of domestic supply and be able to compete on the global stage!
90
18/01/2021 16:01:03 8 4
bbc
We had a world leading chip manufacturer (ARM) but sold it to the far east!
417
18/01/2021 17:05:42 1 0
bbc
no, unless you can manufacture at a scale, and efficiency, to be economic.
Why do you think Germany, France, italy, the US and we do not make every part locally?
635
18/01/2021 18:29:21 1 0
bbc
How on earth do you think we could compete? Our labour costs are through the roof, we will be using the same equipment that the Chinese are using but Our cost base would be dramatically higher.
There is a very simple reason. The great British customer wants high-quality at a very very low price. British manufacturing has never, repeat never been able to provide both at once.
734
18/01/2021 22:16:58 0 0
bbc
While China can treat its workers as it does and people want cheap everything, nothing can change.
784
19/01/2021 06:57:54 0 0
bbc
that's novel idea, it will never work. ??
29
18/01/2021 15:49:14 489 31
bbc
The whole world is reliant on China because they do things cheaper (poor health and safety, no workers rights). The reason companies moved their production their is because they could charge about the same but with better profit margins. Better profit margins = better dividends = better CEO pay.

Capitalism is the reason production moved to China.
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18/01/2021 15:56:04 30 31
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* move their production ‘there’ not ‘their’*
154
18/01/2021 16:18:14 17 12
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And here we have another enthusiastic constable in the Grammar Police....

Presumably you've -never- typed anything incorrectly, or been bitten by auto-complete?

So long as it is clear what was meant, does it really matter more than the actual subject of the HYS, I wonder!
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18/01/2021 16:22:46 4 9
bbc
Pedant
65
18/01/2021 15:56:12 6 2
bbc
Looks like cars have had their chips
50
18/01/2021 15:52:56 7 9
bbc
I hope they don't mean that they're putting workers on Covid19 furlough because of brexit issues?

If the reason they aren't working is not CV19 related, then they shouldn't be using the government scheme.
66
18/01/2021 15:56:14 7 4
bbc
Brexit.....ha ha ha ha ...every problem in the world is due to Brexit. I hope you are not in charge of anything important!
67
18/01/2021 15:56:17 156 0
bbc
Just (NOT) in time only works if you have control over the supply network.
82
18/01/2021 15:58:12 40 1
bbc
Just thinking exactly the same.
339
18/01/2021 16:50:23 2 10
bbc
Thought we took back control?
Not of everything, obviously.
500
18/01/2021 17:31:36 5 0
bbc
Its actually called "Just too late"
668
18/01/2021 19:14:29 2 0
bbc
Too much 'lean' and it all falls over..….
49
18/01/2021 15:52:39 3 4
bbc
Why waste your money on new cars, great return on investment, 70% loss in value after 3 years. Unless of course you drive a company car, usually of Foreign origin.

Hopefully, the Chancellor will take note and tax that luxury perk to pay for those seeking to maintain a £20 increase on Universal Credit.
68
18/01/2021 15:56:17 1 2
bbc
Or those wanting the UC, could get a job and a car thrown in?
88
18/01/2021 16:00:20 0 0
bbc
No problem with that, so long as the company car taxation rules are toughened up.
17
18/01/2021 15:46:41 10 2
bbc
Not everything is about Brexit
69
18/01/2021 15:53:19 5 1
bbc
Tell that to the Remoaners and their asinine comments!
59
18/01/2021 15:54:58 9 9
bbc
China is hoarding chips. Has been for awhile now. They are a serious threat to the West more than ever
70
18/01/2021 15:56:27 10 0
bbc
Curious how you know this?
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Bob
18/01/2021 16:04:07 0 0
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Indeed. 'Chips' is a broad term. What kind of chip? Many types of chip had been in a state of oversupply pre-pandemic and prices falling so the idea that countries were hoarding does not make any sense.
115
18/01/2021 16:07:52 2 0
bbc
He does not, most of the chips mentioned here are made to order to suit the application and are not transferable between products. I do business in China and know that the lead time for chips is 3 to 4 months so the manufacturers messed up and did not order in time, compounded by the impending Spring Festival shutdown in China.
57
18/01/2021 15:53:54 8 2
bbc
Buy British Leyland
71
18/01/2021 15:56:56 1 0
bbc
you missed the word crap!
72
18/01/2021 15:56:58 8 0
bbc
How can you be caught by suprise? You cut orders you think the manufacturer is just going to not do anything with their factory? Or are they going to find an alternative buyer?

Idiots.
27
18/01/2021 15:48:22 5 8
bbc
Who would have thought Premium German cars like Audi use Chinese chips.....
73
18/01/2021 15:57:10 3 0
bbc
Name me one German chip fabricator?
139
18/01/2021 16:15:27 0 1
bbc
Infineon.
Was part of Siemens until it was floated separately.
40
18/01/2021 15:46:30 8 13
bbc
Dont buy EU crap.
74
18/01/2021 15:57:16 3 1
bbc
you would have a pretty rubbish life if you only bought british, but you probably do anyway.
4
18/01/2021 15:42:14 463 36
bbc
It’s time for companies to be less reliant on China
75
18/01/2021 15:57:21 32 6
bbc
we were until consumers i.e. us wanted cheaper prices ,
124
18/01/2021 16:10:14 61 1
bbc
Herein lies the problem, we want our cake and also eat it, China has the market because they produce it cheaper, the West could produce it but we won't pay the additional cost, and it's not just cars, it's pretty much everything these days
76
18/01/2021 15:57:27 3 2
bbc
So Audi isn't making 10,000 cars. Not a lot based on number of cars it sells. Maybe manufacturers of all kinds will learn that it isn't good to just have 1 supplier making all items, especially based in China. Amazing this support for BLM but none for the poor workers/people in China making our cheap goods under sufferance!!
24
18/01/2021 15:47:42 7 9
bbc
We've no need to, there is plenty of other stuff happening that really IS showing brexit to be wrexit.
77
18/01/2021 15:53:53 4 4
bbc
You prove my point exactly.
Irony probably lost on you
20
18/01/2021 15:47:12 7 12
bbc
Buy British.
78
18/01/2021 15:53:59 4 1
bbc
And which british car company would you like us to buy?
Vauxhall are owned by the French.
Jaguar are owned by India.
MG are chinese.
Bentley are German owned.
Rolls Royce are German owned.
Aston Martin are sort of british owned but its mostly just a BMW in pretty skin.
Mclaren are pretty much the only British owned and operated car company out there but are a smidge outside my price range.
145
18/01/2021 16:16:41 1 0
bbc
Aston Martin are not, and never have been, related to BMW products. They are using more and more Mercedes Benz technology these days.
79
18/01/2021 15:54:07 10 1
bbc
Over abundance of new cars anyway wth few buyers.
25
18/01/2021 15:47:48 27 4
bbc
So predictable.... Anybody who didn't see this coming must have been living on planet Zorg.
80
18/01/2021 15:57:47 11 1
bbc
Where's that, and do they make chips??
392
18/01/2021 17:00:44 1 0
bbc
Ask Calvin......
424
18/01/2021 17:07:06 0 0
bbc
Crisps, or French fries?
26
18/01/2021 15:48:07 35 68
bbc
Irrelevant
81
18/01/2021 15:58:03 20 7
bbc
Extremely relevant when you have EU ultras making such silly linkages.
67
18/01/2021 15:56:17 156 0
bbc
Just (NOT) in time only works if you have control over the supply network.
82
18/01/2021 15:58:12 40 1
bbc
Just thinking exactly the same.
40
18/01/2021 15:46:30 8 13
bbc
Dont buy EU crap.
83
18/01/2021 15:58:28 1 0
bbc
Yeah buy "British"!
84
18/01/2021 15:58:29 3 3
bbc
I must not snigger. Vorsprung Durch No Technik !

Ho Ho Ho !
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MLB
18/01/2021 15:53:53 63 10
bbc
Money rules for the big companies, that is why china has their fingers in all of the production around the world, not a good idea at all.
85
18/01/2021 15:58:34 8 38
bbc
Nowt to do with money, more to do with capability.
377
18/01/2021 16:57:38 1 0
bbc
They have competition from Korea, and Taiwan, but on scale, well ahead.
21
18/01/2021 15:47:16 220 18
bbc
Over reliance on China is a big problem for the west. We should look to bringing manufacturing capability back home. However, does the world really need more new cars? Manufacturers now rely on very low interest rates to finance personal leases on cars. The whole edifice would crumble if interest rates went back to what they were in the 70s.
86
18/01/2021 15:58:40 91 11
bbc
Well, it seems we'll ALL need new cars - electric ones. It's government policy you know!
290
18/01/2021 16:41:50 5 11
bbc
Vastly fewer cars will be wanted when electric and driverless. You will only call one when you need it. Not have it sit dumped on the drive or roadside for 95% of its life.
322
18/01/2021 16:47:16 8 5
bbc
Or more resilient footwear.
Until cost of electric cars, their batteries come down, and we can generate, and didtribute, enough electriciry to charge them.
420
18/01/2021 17:06:30 10 3
bbc
I got my electric car second hand 3 years ago. Love it. Never going back to fuel.

Still runs like new so I won't be looking to replace it any time soon.
473
18/01/2021 17:23:40 9 2
bbc
No, please read carefully.
New car sales with petrol or diesel will be banned.
Existing cars are unaffected.
So you can run what you have now, if you want to.
548
18/01/2021 17:44:01 5 0
bbc
Well, it seems we'll ALL need new cars - electric ones. It's government policy you know!

===

Modern society has a really hard time with the difference between needs and wants...
673
18/01/2021 19:18:16 1 0
bbc
And stupid to the core. Spend as much developing the proven to work air to petrol processes to scale and we could continue to use current cars WITHOUT the CO2 damage (CO2 would be net zero - taken from the air in Africa by solar power to petrol and back to the air in UK). This would ALSO mean no new charging infrastructure, damaging batteries or en masse recycling of now defunct petrol cars
793
19/01/2021 08:35:28 0 0
bbc
Not for me I won’t! You can keep your electric milk float cars.
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Ray
18/01/2021 15:45:21 136 30
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Stick in a carburetor in the engine, winders for the windows, rack and pinion steering and no need for any microchips aha its been done before but oh oh emission rules says: no carbs without chips !!
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18/01/2021 15:59:26 115 15
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And get rid of electronic handbrakes so I can do handbrake turns once more, good fun in snow.

Disclaimer: only competent drivers should attempt this otherwise loss of no claims bonus and police action could result.
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18/01/2021 16:52:03 5 3
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Ad possibly death,if you get it wrong.
362
18/01/2021 16:54:24 22 0
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Those flippy electric handbrakes are rubbish, technology for the sake of technology
388
18/01/2021 17:00:11 0 0
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and if you get an associate to film it (or 'mate' as they are known), make sure they don't lose the f**%ing footage
475
18/01/2021 17:24:55 12 0
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Just get rid of electronic handbrakes. when the ECU goes AWOL then you can't move, be towed, have to have the car lifted onto a tow truck.
Ridiculous!
831
19/01/2021 10:51:17 1 0
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just being in your car nowadays may result in Police action ;-)
68
18/01/2021 15:56:17 1 2
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Or those wanting the UC, could get a job and a car thrown in?
88
18/01/2021 16:00:20 0 0
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No problem with that, so long as the company car taxation rules are toughened up.
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18/01/2021 15:42:14 463 36
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It’s time for companies to be less reliant on China
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Bob
18/01/2021 16:00:31 46 3
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Most chips are fab'd outside of China. China is by no means a small player in the market - but countries like Taiwan and South Korea lead the way.
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18/01/2021 16:17:55 3 2
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They sound like safer bet than China.
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18/01/2021 15:56:00 63 4
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Agreed, but wouldn't be nice for us to invest in some home grown high tech manufacturing capabilities to provide security of domestic supply and be able to compete on the global stage!
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18/01/2021 16:01:03 8 4
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We had a world leading chip manufacturer (ARM) but sold it to the far east!
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Jay
18/01/2021 16:37:20 6 0
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Not quite, ARM are a "fabless" Chip design company. Their technology/designs are sold under license, and manufactured globally, a large amount likely at the Silicon foundries in question causing this current disruption of supply in the automotive sector.
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cb
18/01/2021 16:39:01 5 0
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ARM aren't a manufacturer, they are a design house. If you want an ARM processor you still need one of the Asian fabs to make the chips.
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18/01/2021 16:39:12 3 0
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Selling ARM overseas was a startegic mistake, but they don't manufacture and never have manufactured chips. They design IP for other people to make chips.
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18/01/2021 17:07:08 0 0
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ARM are just a design house that license there designs to be integrated with peripherals from others that then get them manufactured at a silicone foundry.
Most that "make" semiconductors have no manufacturing of there own - the investment needed for a semiconductor fabrication plant is in the billions and few would have the need for the capacity on there own.
880
19/01/2021 16:22:44 0 0
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ARM never manufactured their own chips.
91
18/01/2021 15:58:34 38 5
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Remember the days when cars were fairly straight forward and you could do maintenance yourself without being ripped off at a carpeted dealer with coffee machines.
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18/01/2021 16:04:40 41 4
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Some of us still drive those cars, by choice, not financial constraint. More reliable, more character and more pleasure.
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18/01/2021 17:14:02 4 0
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Yes.
Sidevalve engines were brilliant.
Except for emissions. Especially in the 70's petrol shortage, when we ran them on paraffin.
The new-fangled engines couldn't do that.????
712
18/01/2021 20:27:52 0 0
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Reliable? Your kidding. Spent more time fixing them than driving them.
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18/01/2021 15:54:58 9 9
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China is hoarding chips. Has been for awhile now. They are a serious threat to the West more than ever
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18/01/2021 16:01:22 4 0
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When asked to comment Chris Grayling said that, if China is indeed hoarding, the UK will simply make more of its own chips. A spokesman from DEFRA later pointed out that the happless ex-Transport Secretary had confused this issue with potato farming.
57
18/01/2021 15:53:54 8 2
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Buy British Leyland
93
18/01/2021 16:01:26 2 0
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How is your Allegro BTW?
94
18/01/2021 16:01:27 1 0
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China and surrounding nations have the technology to deliver high quality that can meet the precise specification of the big companies. The West and the US manufacturing capability is poor compared because they rely on the technologies and manufacturing processes of yesteryear. The 'luddite' approach of Trump has not helped. Design led engineering is the way forward, not the other way round.
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18/01/2021 15:47:21 149 24
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If you don't make the component yourself don't complain when there are shortages. Bring manufacturing home where you can control it.
95
18/01/2021 16:01:42 2 2
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Yeah, because the the public will buy more expensive British cars
96
18/01/2021 16:02:06 4 0
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There are thousands and thousands of unsold cars just sitting in field so a couple of months with limited production is not the end of the world.
188
18/01/2021 16:24:48 1 2
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Maybe those cars were destined for a different market? Try thinking global, not just Britcentric.
97
18/01/2021 16:00:08 11 5
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Somehow surely BBC ,this has to be the fault of Brexit, come on your slacking.
100
18/01/2021 16:03:54 9 7
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you're
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18/01/2021 15:47:11 6 9
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Wonderful planning by those German experts! "vorsprung durch technik"????
98
18/01/2021 16:02:13 4 2
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at least they have a Car industry
99
18/01/2021 16:03:17 1 1
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So is 10,000 cars a lot for Audi - I'm thinking the BBC has access to their manufacturing statistics?

And I would imagine the 10,000 workers are not on indefinite furlough so for how long will they not be making cars?

This is cut and paste press release news not journalism BBC - I'm assuming you neither know nor care about the difference since it's all you do
97
18/01/2021 16:00:08 11 5
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Somehow surely BBC ,this has to be the fault of Brexit, come on your slacking.
100
18/01/2021 16:03:54 9 7
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you're
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18/01/2021 16:11:26 4 0
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Thanks for that, don't know how I would manage with you.