Covid vaccine: Health minister denies jabs being held back
18/01/2021 | news | uk | 3,795
Earlier the first minister said he did not want vaccinators "standing around with nothing to do".
I guess the girl who could have been saved after the Manchester Arena bombing was left bleeding to prevent doctors standing around doing nothing a few hours later. Removed
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This is a race against time. Drakeford's strategy is wrong and dangerous.
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I assume that is the correct Welsh pronunciation.

Far more important to protect the Welsh culture than worry about little things like the health, wellbeing and wealth of the nation.
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So you don't use vaccines you've got, to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".

To most people this just sounds like nonsense but doubtless makes sense in the strange world of Mark Drakeford.
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Drake ford is just an ideological fool, more concerned with scoring political points in every way possible, than saving peoples lives, he and his sidekick Gethin are, and will be responsible for the deaths of some Welsh people, some who may have even put their trust in the shambling, scruffy idiot. Removed
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The Tory Bot Propaganda Machine couldn't wait to get their teeth into this HYS.

On every measurable scale Wales has handled this pandemic far better than the Tories have. The stats prove it!
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Can you imagine the the Welsh labour cabinet meeting where all the ministers agreed to this? "Yes my leader, of course my leader".
You forget "Heil Hitler". Removed
The vaccinators can keep themselves busy, burying the extra body's. Removed
Ah the pro Unionists are out in Force. Should of thought about that before you dragged the Welsh, Irish and Scottish born out of Europe! Removed
Brexit is the long-term economic issue that should be focused on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1350367078662987777

Here are issues business’s are having
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18/01/2021 12:44:36 4 1
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Give it a rest and stop trying to bring Brexit into unrelated matters. This is a story about the incompetence of the Labour Welsh government.
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Good point, but there are too many Tory Bots on here playing party politics rather than being sensible. I'd suggest the BBC have deliberately provoked a party political attack.
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What on earth has that got to do with the Welsh Labour party failing to adequately roll out the vaccine ?

Brexit is done, end of story.......will people please stop banging on about it, as it's not going to be suddenly reversed, regardless what you might think about it all.
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Medical coercion is illegal under the Nuremberg code,thats 20 yrs to life. Did we not learn anything from Nazi Germany? Whats going on today is seasonal flu given its real name so the WHO/UN can carry out a corporate take over of this country. Doing it through your fear and your ignorance. Removed
is this post for real,or are you running a brain in for an idiot? Removed
Medical coercion is illegal under the Nuremberg code,thats 20 yrs to life. Did we not learn anything from Nazi Germany? Whats going on today is seasonal flu given its real name so the WHO/UN can carry out a corporate take over of this country. Doing it through your fear and your ignorance. Removed
is this post for real,or are you running a brain in for an idiot? Removed
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Making a conscious decision that could lead to the potential death of citizens. Impeach him now, please.
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I can image Dripford going into the bathroom this morning, and taking half an hour to decide which way round to sit on the toilet... and then getting it wrong coz someone told him that Boris sat on it the other way.
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I wonder if the BBC will make the blithering idiot aware of these comments? Removed
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Bojo is too afraid to appear on the bbc
He hides in one of those Pfizer fridges, pretending to count his jabs.
All these vile tory mps in wales scoring points. Thier party has destroyed peoples lives.
As for the rolloutm shall we adminiater ina week and wait until march ? As the 2nd jab vaccine date passes?
How about gwtting more supplies to wales so we can go faster mr crabb and davies... Vile people
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Deluded Leftie! We have plenty of vaccine in Wales.
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Now repeat in English please
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Out of order.
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Me too. As well as the 110,000 care home workers who have refused to take it.
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....and the ones who'd be infected while getting vaccinated in a pointless scramble?
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Nowhere near as grim as England's unless you can prove otherwise, which I know you can't!
Please shut up with your pathetic tribal rants as to who's got a bigger dad...it's totally moronic. Removed
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funny,thought wales was a devolved government.thanks for the heads up that its westminster not sorting vaccinations.do you get paid by the downvote?
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This moron in Cardiff needs to go. He has only used 151737 doses of his 327000. At his present rate it will take over 3 weeks to use them. He promised that by mid Feb all people in Priority groups 1 to 4 would be done. Thats 740350 less 151737 people to complete in 4 weeks at a rate of 147153 each week. Removed
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Given a medal, more like!
For facing down the empty headed tory bots!
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Brigadier Prosser (a Welshman), Is in control of the rollout in England. Scotland has brought the army in to help out. Maybe it’s time Wales called them in to help?
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Why do you keep assuming that anyone who thinks Welsh Labour sucks want to vote conservative?

There are other parties out there that would be more competent than Welsh Labour (almostall of them)
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Given a medal, more like!
For facing down the empty headed tory bots!
Your an idiot. It's not political it's just common sense. Give the vaccine to as many people as fast as you can. Removed
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The British Medical Association is extremely worried about the severe shortage of Oxygen, to Drakefords brain.
Bojo us not using much in his fridge, either!
His hair is dropping out.
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Go and sit in the corner and put your pointed hat on. It’s the one with the capital D on. There’s a good boy
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If you cannot read ,its the red hat.
johnr lives in a bedsit with his nan above a chippy in Rhyl. Every morning at about 11am, he drops a sherry into her coffee to send her to sleep, so he can watch Loose Women, naked.

Change my mind.
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that is totally brilliant.
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What a revolting thought
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No sherry required.
Both watch Loose Women. Both in the buff.
She's the one who helps with the 'big' words, he's the one who uses emojis...
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or the nice boys on Top Gear... dont forget johnr is a leftie !
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Aaaaand, it's gone.
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Johnr is a fool.
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Bojo ?? has a toll of 100000 deaths
Youre safer in Wales.
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Think Mr Drakeford is depriving some welsh village of an idiot. The man is a buffoon. Removed
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What do expect he’s a unionist
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What do you expect he is a unionist
Time for him and the rest too go, get back in the potting shed you idiot! Removed
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And Bojo back to the deep freeze!
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Whether you agree or disagree with his view (personally I disagree), is it not refreshing to hear a politician be asked a question and actually give an honest and straight answer? Maybe the amount of criticism he is getting is why politicians don't usually bother answering questions.
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Bojo ?? has a toll of 100000 deaths
Youre safer in Wales.
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I know... Bojo ?? !
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Hi johnr
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Mr Drakeford - Welsh Lives Matter!
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Mr Drakeford - Welsh Lives Matter!
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My mothe is 87 and lives in England. She has yet to receive her first jab.
18/01/2021 17:15:26 8 1
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There's clearly an issue here - in the Aneurin Bevan health board, only care home staff have been vaccinated. That means they have a month to vaccinate around 400,000 people in the next two groups - my father (who is 75) among them. They are clearly going to miss this target. How do we hold the Welsh government to account when they just seem to shrug off criticism?!
They need the vaccines first and Na Dim Zahawi the tory go getter wasnt too sure if the future supply!
Oh dear!??
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Bojo ?? looks like a badly tied sack of straw, and acts like one!
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It's priceless. The loony left have spent the last week raging about Trump and demanding he be removed from office for being a danger. Meanwhile, one of their own has been secretly sabotaging the vaccination program in Wales, ensuring another few hundred vulnerable people die. Funny how the Welsh media isn't in uproar. Had it been a Tory minister who'd done this they would have been.
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I doubt it . .They put Drakefords mob in...
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They have to be, surely
Not many can be that dumb
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Pray tell, not that I’m a Tory, but I’m on their side in this so how would I sign up for these payments to which you refer?
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The only bots are you ,johnr and polzoid. Are you all related perhaps?
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I hope the majority of Welsh people are more intelligent than the paid for comments from the Tory Bot Propaganda Machine trolls.
Oracle - I don’t want to worry you but I suspect your tin foil hat has slipped!

The evil Tory mind rays appear to be getting in....
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1.4% difference given the size of England's population and better infrastructure is miniscule!!
It`s time you looked in a mirror and asked yourself "What sort of a human being am I?" Removed
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I have two words for Bojo and its ... Clown Prince??
The moderators won’t let us use the two words we have for you. Removed
HOW STUPID HAVE WELSH LAOUR GOT TO BE …… BEFORE YOU STOP VOTING FOR THEM & PLAID !!!!!!!!! Removed
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She shows more guts than Priti Awful Patel who is hiding with Bojo in his fridge!
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Drakeford must be hiding something much more damaging that his gov cronies have got wrong.....procurement failed to get their order in on time so second dose would be so far out that a first dose would be required once more? Much easier to divert attention onto himself. He’s a dangerous man.
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So you're a racist now ? Should we all be racists in Wales ?
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What bit of the story don’t you get about there being hundreds of thousands of doses that are not being used? It’s nothing to do with procurement, it’s about delivery at the point of use but of course you are not to bothered about that particular reality in your need to have a pop at the U.K. gov.
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Not so bad as the tory double whammy of Bojo and Hank
Weve had a pummelling from them for over a year.
Then covid and brexit!
OMG!
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4.8% in Wales, 6.2% in England... a 1.4% difference, which can probably be put down to numerous, logical reasons.
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But he has now"Clarified" his views-MORE confusion!
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Stop bleating Johnr
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Johnr must be advising his sweetheart on the vaccinations if you can be bothered to read his nonsense comments. Removed
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Apparently there coming to his house to vaccinate him.
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They rarely are after ten years of tory austerity and penny pinching of the nhs!
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Bojos father has had the two jabs, Pfizer recommend!
What is the problem. He was entitled to them. Don’t get your point again you stupid man - again! Removed
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I know it is a made up story - still a point worth making, though.
Idiot, my wife was stood outside the care home in the rain today and that was as close as she could get. Removed
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Cant back pedal now, you said it so either you were lying then or lying now either way your a disgrace !!
Bojo lies faster than Trump and on a wider shameless scale!
He said the pandemic would be over by christmas!
Oh and he said there would be no non tariff barriers! ??
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What's that got to do with Drakeford ????
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Your idol Drakeford is 'leader' in Wales, therefore has to take the responsibility for one the highest Covid death rates per head of population in Europe, possibly the world. It's plain to see from his comments today he's completely and utterly clueless. Forget Bojo ??, it's nothing to do with him here in Wales.
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Btw Everyone does realise johnr is dripford. No one is that much of fool.
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Get back in your box
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What a stupid, irrelevant comment.
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You seem to somewhat misled in your believe that most people are “Tory trolls” how wrong you are, most people that have passed comment and at 3000+ just want to express their disbelief at the incompetence of this so called FM. He is an idiot that has no place in politics no matter what persuasion
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Its impossible to have proper debate these days because people don't want to talk objectively ... all they want to do is push their own narrative ... I used to like to talk about politics but its all become too highly charged ... we all have our own opinions but unless we are open to new ideas then we never learn and we just become over-opinionated ... do you ever stop and reflect on your views?
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Typical welsh officials holding vaccine back for themselves. Snouts in the trough. Dreadful!! But not unexpected.
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If any more f my family die due to COVID Mr Drakeford I will see you and the rest of the shameful Welsh government in court for manslaughter
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Enough already...
I have come to the conclusion that Johnr must be a professional troll. Primarily based on the fact that the only other species with intelligence low enough to blindly follow what WAG says is a sheep, and sheep can’t type ?? Removed
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I’m not going to report your post to the moderator even though it is, in my opinion, insulting, disrespectful, and defamatory. To sheep
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johnr can BARRRRR BARRRRR lol
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I think it's fair to say Mr Drakeford et al that the unrepresentative sample don't believe your bring realistic in your approach, you have failed to explain yourself adequately, we have a case where the FM and Health Secretary jobs are too big for the people in them, leadership is needed desperately and neither you nor Mr Gething appear capable of providing it. Appoint a covid minister now
Weve got NaDim Zahawi in charge!
We dont make these vacs yet in the uk!
So we have to cow tow to foreigners.
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But true
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The UK has the highest Covid death rate in the world. IN. THE. WORLD. And that is exclusively the fault of Boris Johnson and that catastrophic parade of idiots we're told is a government. But hey look, Drakeford said something silly.

You sorry shower of Tory sycophants are the most poisonous, deluded mob of morons this side of the atlantic.
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oooh! a new Drakebot or is it a name change?
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Only, err, this HYS is about Wales, and Boris Johnson & his government aren’t in charge of the response to Covid or the NHS here
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Bolderdash
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Typing something in CAPITALS does NOT make it TRUE.
Johnr gone to bed now. He's had a long day fighting a lonely battle. Matron has taken in his hot chocolate and puffed up his little red pillow. "Would you like a song johnr? What about 'We'll keep the red flag flying?'" Removed
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How about fool on the hill
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He's getting ready to watch loose women with his nan tomorrow.
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Don't sing it too fast though. Save the second verse till February!
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Sounds better than "Britannia waives the rules."
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He is extremely dangerous the protection of the people is a counties leaders first priority and Mr Drakeford has completely and utterly failed. He keeps changing the excuse but seems incapable of understanding the urgency of the situation and that because of his failure many more vulnerable people will die and it will be his and Mr Gething's fault.The situation is a disgrace
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Totally stunned when I listened to Drakeford this morning. The idea of keeping back vaccines for such a stupid reason is nothing less than incompetent and probably criminally negligent.
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Just goes to prove that we are suckers for putting up with this 3rd World management from our devolved illustrious Senedd,a bunch of incompetent fools who consider themselves beyond accountability to the people.
What idiot would sit on a life saving vaccine,well ,I’ll tell you we have a pair of them, called Drakeford and Gething
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Mr Drakeford needs to retire to a care home, senile old git! Sit & wait & wait & wait till your vaccine expires on the back of a shelf, no hurry! Just die!
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I'd do the same with the PM if one of my relatives was one of the thousand a day dying in England because the PM was asleep at the wheel, whilst the scientists were trying to wake him up.
Moron of the highest order, let's blame the PM for a Worldwide Pandemic...You Idiot ( You will probably think this is praise for your selfless moronic postings) Removed
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They are being used!
Johnr I don’t believe - you are right for once. The 80 freezers at universities are being used. Sadly they are being used to store vaccines rather than those vaccines being used to save lives in Wales. Drakeford has a master plan but then so did Hitler. Removed
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You are so desperate
you have zero to say
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The infection rates are far lower in Wales than across the border!!
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Posted by Drakeford love child?
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He's not that unpopular, an astonishing number of 80,000 have volunteered to vaccinate Mark Drakeford.
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And yuors
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Funny how some of these anti WG supporters were very quick to condemn them when wrongly assuming that vaccine procurement was a WG responsibility.
Of course, now that it has been conclusively shown that Westminster has that responsibility....
They seem to have gone VERY QUIET on the subject...
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See you slipped into you're Ron character on Scotland HYS, with the "wee" reference.
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If the vaccines need to be kept at low temperature why hasn't Drakey looked at sending them round in ice cream vans. Happy Music to warn you they're on the way, jab done through the window and a magnum or a 99 after. Everyone's a winner. Drakey get gethin on it this morning
Have you tasted ice cream at minus 70 degrees???????
Eejit!
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When it comes to planning ahead, this government is completely inept. Get this vaccine out to as many people as you can as soon as you can. If vaccinations are sitting twiddling their thumbs because they have no vaccine......Great.
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Ginger Lives Matter

If the vaccines need to be kept at low temperature why hasn't Drakey looked at sending them round in ice cream vans.

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Vaccines not only have to be stored at the correct temperature, two part vaccines also need to be administered according to the manufacturers recommended time frame to ensure efficacy, any govt not reading the instructions is wide open for litigation
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Lets talk about the tragedy of the over 80,000 death rates due to Tory mismanagement.
These are factual numbers.
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Yes, but back here in Wales, it's Drakeford and Gething that have to answer to the apalling fact that 5000 have succumbed to this dreadful illness. I just hope that the 'marathon not a sprint' attitude doesn't lead to many more.
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Deflecting away from Wales and Drakeford? Why ever would that be???
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I thought it was Covid.
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Just get the vaccines in the arms, Drakeford!!

A few blinkered, one eyed, activists betrothed to the dogma forever, trying to deny, make palatable, deflect what Drakeford has said and done, but it's too late and the people won't be conned.

Socialism was out of date in the 1970s.

Drakeford is the last 'Artist' of the cult here in Wales, the world has moved on and so should we.
Do you prefer the Tory way of not wanting to feed children properly.
Voting against giving the poorest children a decent meal and thinking food banks are actually necessary, even for working parents.
I think its obvious whose being used as a fool.
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This has nothing to do with feeding children.
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Polzoid

To quote you at 9.25,GONE VERY QUITE.
Be interested in you're post claiming its to do with availability.

Not according to the health minister's latest statement.

Should he would of mentioned a problem with availability. I know the chair BMA Cymru Dr Bailey has, but that was for the vaccine to be given with the stock available.
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This is the post.

Funny how some of these anti WG supporters were very quick to condemn them when wrongly assuming that vaccine procurement was a WG responsibility.
Of course, now that it has been conclusively shown that Westminster has that responsibility....
They seem to have gone VERY QUIET on the subject.

Could you explain your point please?
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Polzoid

To quote you at 9.25,GONE VERY QUITE.
Be interested in you're post claiming its to do with availability.

Not according to the health minister's latest statement.

Should he would of mentioned a problem with availability. I know the chair BMA Cymru Dr Bailey has, but that was for the vaccine to be given with the stock available.
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