Footballers hugging - players have their say
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With the authorities looking to clamp down on footballer celebrations as part of the effort to combat Covid-19, three players discuss whether the new guidelines are realistic.
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I would rather they just adhere to the rules when off the football pitch.
Exactly. Kyle Walker didn't get COVID from his team-mates, he did it by pulling in his mates and the ladies of the night into his little "parties" at home. Several times, I might add.
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in every walk of life there is a minority of people who let the rest down.
The reason the green eyed monster get so upset with the footballers is they all wanted to be one of them.
99% of footballers have stuck to the rules. 99 % of politicians, celebrities, teachers, bin men, Lawyers have all done the same.
The reason the green eyed monster get so upset with the footballers is they all wanted to be one of them.
99% of footballers have stuck to the rules. 99 % of politicians, celebrities, teachers, bin men, Lawyers have all done the same.
Maybe if the clubs were more open about what action they take against the rule breakers off the pitch!!
They must have 1 of the best paid jobs in the country so should at least adhere to the rules also many youngsters look up to them so should show an example!!
They must have 1 of the best paid jobs in the country so should at least adhere to the rules also many youngsters look up to them so should show an example!!
Exactly, if these players are living in a bubble and adhering to the rules then any interaction should be fine. Don't really get the problem. However, if they are not adhering to the rules they are carriers that are putting peoples lives at risk, that is unforgivable and they need to understand the consequences of their actions
Every layer of society has idiots. Some make mistakes, some do it on purpose. Football is the same except other idiots hold them up as an example. Give it a rest and leave the players alone.
Even something as simple as not getting their hair cut, like the rest of us, is beyond them.
Why not behave on it as well, its not that difficult! You can have emotions witout running 50m to kiss and pile ontop of each other. I remember when taking off your shirt was an acceptable way to celebrate they soon stopped when they knew they would be booked
Just stop playing. The whole season is going to become untenable soon anyway.
These grown men have a choice and must accept whatever the consequences.
If this is a problem why aren't the FA should clamping down on it?
It's the pathological diving, cheating and playacting that's killing the game, nowt to do with the virus.
If this is a problem why aren't the FA should clamping down on it?
It's the pathological diving, cheating and playacting that's killing the game, nowt to do with the virus.
Reading the comments of these 3 players just confirms that they dont understand they have to adher to the rules.I have to.If they dont think about it they will transmit/pick up the virus and football will be shut down. A reminder also that they are getting paid well.I am not.
Reading the comments of people here, it's clear they have an axe to grind with football. Social distancing is impossible in a football match, never mind just the celebrations. Whining on about the celebrations is irrelevant. Do you see the players man marking each other? At set pieces? They're all being tested and are supposed to be in squad bubbles. You either have football or you cancel it.
I think it’s more the fact that they think it’s unreasonable to expect them to not hug etc when they score. It shows a bit of a detachment from the ordeal that we’re all having to deal with.
We’re all making sacrifices, football goal celebrations really doesn’t count as one for me.
We’re all making sacrifices, football goal celebrations really doesn’t count as one for me.
Nail on the head there. Football is a contact sport (unless you are Grealish then you don't need contact to fall over).
Cancel it,they are a bunch of overpaid prima donnas. Not just football all sport lives over money
Trying the same in rugby which given the nature of the game is ridiculous! As one international said - they had to stand 2m apart in the anthems and then 2 mins later you're at the bottom of a ruck with someone elses sweat dripping in your mouth. If they are in a bubble and stick to it then can't see the harm in a little hug
And that is why you cancel it. Players have shown themselves to be incapable of following the rules they have been specifically set. Govt should shut it down immediately. And I am a fan of football.
Adhere or stop the game ,quite simple
"They're all being tested and are supposed to be in squad bubbles"
Yet they are all out and about breaking rules left right and centre. COVID is running rampant in squads, so the testing and bubbles are irrelevant when the dumb players break the rules and are even so dumb as to post it on social media.
Hugging has nothing to do with football. If it is integral then the sport really is a joke .
Yet they are all out and about breaking rules left right and centre. COVID is running rampant in squads, so the testing and bubbles are irrelevant when the dumb players break the rules and are even so dumb as to post it on social media.
Hugging has nothing to do with football. If it is integral then the sport really is a joke .
So by your argument football should definitely be cancelled because social distancing is impossible in a football match. I agree.
You make a good point; if the toddlers can't control themselves it's time to cancel it 'till they grow up.
Way to wilfully ignore the difference between tackling and challenging for a ball, where the chances of directly passing breath are limited, and hugging someone, at face level, where, oddly enough, the chance of inhalation of each others breath rises exponentially. If you do make contact with a player while tackling, it will be boot to sock, shin guard or top.
But they dont have to run 50 m to hug and pile on top of one another. they should be covid free but why take the extra riske?
I think the worst bits are that handshakes and hugs after the game returned for some reason? A quick hug after a goal I’m fine with. It’s the wearing of masks and socially distanced all game until the end when suddenly it’s ok to shake the hand of the entire back room staff and hug each player as they walk off. Why?
If they are all in a bubble how come The whole of Aston Villa squad can’t play, who caught it?
If footballers are all safe then why have so many matches been cancelled?
Yes they do man-marking and tackling but those are essential to their job. Hugging is not and surely it is best to cut down such contacts which are not necessary.
Also why do you think that all those who are against hugging are all against football? Yes they might enjoy the game but are more concerned with public safety.
Yes they do man-marking and tackling but those are essential to their job. Hugging is not and surely it is best to cut down such contacts which are not necessary.
Also why do you think that all those who are against hugging are all against football? Yes they might enjoy the game but are more concerned with public safety.
Banning players from contact with their own team-mates? Seriously?
They've been eating together, training togerher, getting changed next to each other and been tested together all week.
Will they ban contact marking at corners, free kicks and in open play from opposing players from a separate bubble?
They've been eating together, training togerher, getting changed next to each other and been tested together all week.
Will they ban contact marking at corners, free kicks and in open play from opposing players from a separate bubble?
That is a good point the fact they are a bubble because there have been all sorts of bubbles & there still are including school bubbles, support bubbles, childcare bubbles where the distancing rules have been said to not apply so why do they apply to a regularly tested footballers bubble.
Millionaires acting like spoiled 10 years old brats and what is the saddest.....it is us watching it and even paying to watch them.
....then don’t. You do have a choice
Celebrations have spiralled out of all reality. Tearing shirts off, diving into the ‘crowd, smashing corner posts and grovelling about on the floor embraced by coaching staff, subs and the team’s mascot. It is however just one of the Premier League’s departures from the game itself. BL, giving the knee, school lunches, tattoos and haircuts fit for circus clowns. Where has our great game gone?[[
LET IT GO , training and changing together same toilet and changing room door handles , apart from passing on info during match or making a wall to defend a free kick LET IT GO , or maybe with the idea of tissues and spittoons placed in strategic parts of the pitch.
Only the six separate BBC Utd v Liverpool articles today.
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If you score, do a Shearer. . .hand and arm up in self congratulations and run away from the other players!
Footballers are ingenious at inventing new goal celebrations.
They should now spend some time in training, coming up with a celebration that does not include French kissing and shaggin each other.
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They should now spend some time in training, coming up with a celebration that does not include French kissing and shaggin each other.
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Or just run to the touch line, kneel down and pretend to sniff the white stuff up your noise ??????
Footballers are ingenious at inventing new goal celebrations. Surely they can come up with some new ones that do not involve them French kissing and shaggin each other.
Can't be that difficult, surely?
Can't be that difficult, surely?
I think he was just trying to avoid getting a kiss from Peter Beardsley.
Maybe each football ground could place 3 or 4 mannequins behind each goals so the goal scorer can run towards them and celebrate with the dummies instead of their team mates.
Why can Shearer and his pundit pals still travel around the country
Only arrogant millionaire footballers are so stupid as to moan against the slightest hardship of being asked not to touch each other. It's not like they're being asked NOT to celebrate, just dont touch each other. Then they wonder why their squad goes down with covid... idiots.
Your comments are totally without merit. They are still being told to shake hands at the beginning of games by the PL who also insist on them playing or they can lose points, get a fine etc. So they have to get on a coach with 30 other people on match day and travel around the country. No consistency as usual.
And they have no choice.
You and countless others who think they know best do.
And they have no choice.
You and countless others who think they know best do.
Don't you see how stupid your comment is? They're playing football, avoiding contact is impossible so pointless saying hugging should be banned after they celebrate. Fine to tussle for the ball, go up for headers and slide tackles but hugging after scoring.. oh no can't do that. Sums up this mental world we now live in
Up Leeds. We Am Leeds
So, instead of focusing on idiots who refuse to wear face coverings in inside public spaces, people driving long distances to “exercise” or politicians who think the rules don’t apply to them, we seem to be debating the behaviour of groups who are tested twice weekly, exist in their own bubbles and are providing millions with some form of mental respite from a global pandemic. Really?
Millionaires acting like spoiled 10 years old brats and what is the saddest.....it is us watching it and even paying to watch them.
Footballers generally haven't followed any government guides lines for the last 10 months, citing a lack of understanding of the rules when they get caught. Sadly, I doubt they will start now.
This nonsense has gone too far. Anyone who still falls for this needs their heads examined.
Will this mean that grappling at free kicks and corners will be outlawed aswell ?
Maguire would still head it wide unopposed
Maguire would still head it wide unopposed
If it is outlawed at least the refs/VAR will have no choice but to give a pen against him when he gets opponents in his usual headlock.
Celebrations have spiralled out of all reality. Tearing shirts off, diving into the ‘crowd, smashing corner posts and grovelling about on the floor embraced by coaching staff, subs and the team’s mascot. It is however just one of the Premier League’s departures from the game itself. BL, giving the knee, school lunches, tattoos and haircuts fit for circus clowns. Where has our great game gone?[[
Reading the comments of people here, it's clear they have an axe to grind with football. Social distancing is impossible in a football match, never mind just the celebrations. Whining on about the celebrations is irrelevant. Do you see the players man marking each other? At set pieces? They're all being tested and are supposed to be in squad bubbles. You either have football or you cancel it.
So because you have to suffer, they should too? Pretty lame argument IMO.
We are all making sacrifices so footballers hugging when they score a goal seems unreasonable? Did you really just say that?
How is that going to effect you or people in hospital because it make zero difference to you or anyone else.
However it will provide a lift to some.
pathetic statement
How is that going to effect you or people in hospital because it make zero difference to you or anyone else.
However it will provide a lift to some.
pathetic statement
Totally, the visuals are just wrong. Add that to lock down parties and it just demonstrates one rule for them and one rule for us.
Rugby have far more physical contact than football but manage to air high five.
The debate above just demonstrates how people find reasons or excuses for their own twist of the rules. Just do it.
Rugby have far more physical contact than football but manage to air high five.
The debate above just demonstrates how people find reasons or excuses for their own twist of the rules. Just do it.
And we are paying for the constant testing of these mega brains, even though they earn more a week than most do in4 years. Make them pay!
I could do with a bit of detachment from the present ordeal for a brief period of time every so often to be honest.
Why is it virus doom and gloom merchants think we should be dressed in sackcloth's while flogging our backs for the duration of lock down.
Why is it virus doom and gloom merchants think we should be dressed in sackcloth's while flogging our backs for the duration of lock down.
Spot on!
What a pathetic and paranoid nation we have become. Trying to suck all enjoyment out of life and demand that the players behave like robots. This really is becoming farcical now! Nearly a year in and I still don't know anyone who even knows anyone who has been ill from covid. Get a grip people and stop believing ever word on the media!
Celebrations have spiralled out of all reality. Tearing shirts off, diving into the ‘crowd, smashing corner posts and grovelling about on the floor embraced by coaching staff, subs and the team’s mascot. It is however just one of the Premier League’s departures from the game itself. BL, giving the knee, school lunches, tattoos and haircuts fit for circus clowns. Where has our great game gone?[[
Yes, of course- The lack of penalties being awarded is ruining the game???!!!
Only arrogant millionaire footballers are so stupid as to moan against the slightest hardship of being asked not to touch each other. It's not like they're being asked NOT to celebrate, just dont touch each other. Then they wonder why their squad goes down with covid... idiots.
Your comments are totally without merit. They are still being told to shake hands at the beginning of games by the PL who also insist on them playing or they can lose points, get a fine etc. So they have to get on a coach with 30 other people on match day and travel around the country. No consistency as usual.
And they have no choice.
You and countless others who think they know best do.
And they have no choice.
You and countless others who think they know best do.
As a Derby County fan... under Wayne's steerage, I think all the team will be safe in the celebrations department.
Wayne Rooney , now there's a role model.
Let's face it, these players are no risk to themselves or their young families.
The virtue signalling around football has gone far enough as it is.
Not to mention the constant use of the cameras to show people wearing masks and sitting miles apart in a deserted open air stadium. All of which is frankly ludicrous.
They treat us like children.
The virtue signalling around football has gone far enough as it is.
Not to mention the constant use of the cameras to show people wearing masks and sitting miles apart in a deserted open air stadium. All of which is frankly ludicrous.
They treat us like children.
The comments from these players concern me. It shows how precious these young (ish) rich men are. If they're following protocols outside the matches risk should be minimal. Contact during matches is unavoidable but where it isn't then avoid it. It's called risk mitigation for God's sake, I know they are not all irresponsible but it does make you wonder with some of them what planet they are on.
"How can you control the emotion? It's impossible."
This argument that it's impossible for players to not celebrate goals is ridiculous. We've all seen players refuse to celebrate when playing their former teams so it's clearly possible.
This argument that it's impossible for players to not celebrate goals is ridiculous. We've all seen players refuse to celebrate when playing their former teams so it's clearly possible.
in the heat of the moment its hard to quite do the right thing
Exactly. They control their emotions when wanting to thump the ref. So they clearly can. They choose not to.
Frank Lampard never refused to celebrate against West Ham. The club he grew up supporting. Same for Rooney against Everton
Totally agree. You only have to watch re-runs of The Big Match from the 1970s and you see a time when goalscorers jumped or ran with excitement at scoring, and maybe shook hands with the nearest team mate and that was sufficient. No group hugs at the far end of the pitch to waste time, but there was more real passion in football then compared to the fake hype that today's prima donnas exhibit.
Nobody's telling us why they shouldn't celebrate. They haven't got the virus so why not. Ridiculous.
Soccer player celebrations are a learned habit so it is very easy for them to stop if they wanted.
You see in sports such as rugby, Gaelic football and hurling that there is no need for group hugs after a score.
You see in sports such as rugby, Gaelic football and hurling that there is no need for group hugs after a score.
Quite right, and how many practiced routines have we seen. Rocking the baby for one. How about ‘hand over mouth, and walk back to the half way line socially distanced’ to send out a useful message.
You're wilfully missing the point, not celebrating against your old club is an emotional response!
Not going to be an issue for Arsenal anyway judging by yesterday’s game!
People are being told not to hug their Granny’s there is emotion in that but we are all expected to adhere to it - yet again football wants an exemption from rules everyone else has to follow. It’s that “Above the rules” mentality that gets up everyone’s nose.
Agree.
But I’ll miss the badge kissing from the player about to:
a. “Down tools” because he wants a transfer VVD at Southampton
b. Negotiate a new contract then transfer out
c. Get his agent to find him a new club
But I’ll miss the badge kissing from the player about to:
a. “Down tools” because he wants a transfer VVD at Southampton
b. Negotiate a new contract then transfer out
c. Get his agent to find him a new club
Except that is all part of the "emotional response" still. They're not not celebrating because they're told not to, they're doing it as a sign of respect and it usually involves some sort of gesture to let the opposition and their fans know.
Completely agree....they all managed to do it when football started up again....buy not now !
So what,s changed...apart from they,re on full pay again now.
If they can,t control themselves or adhere to rules or guidelines while being watched by millions of viewers, then there,s little hope for the rest of us.
So what,s changed...apart from they,re on full pay again now.
If they can,t control themselves or adhere to rules or guidelines while being watched by millions of viewers, then there,s little hope for the rest of us.
More to the point - its not necessary to stop them. They have regular tests and live in bubbles. Get a grip, next we will be having robots playing the game. May just as well switch off the TV completely if we are going to try to take what little joy remains out of life. This really is a pathetic subject to be bickering about!
Millions of people are doing that every single day. I've lost patience with them. Excuses, excuses, excuses from their own little world.
Footballers didn't always go into a huddle, swapping steaming breath. It is a modern thing, well reasonably modern, and became more prevalent when continental and South American players started infiltrating the British game.
Absolutely.
It gains them the respect of from the fans of both clubs. Though in most cases I can think of they were decent players, and decent human beings, who already had respect.
It gains them the respect of from the fans of both clubs. Though in most cases I can think of they were decent players, and decent human beings, who already had respect.
Especially given that they can perform choreographed little dance routines when they choose to; perhaps they just need paying more? Is it 'emotion' that makes many of them into dishonest cheats, or is that cold calculation in the 'heat of the moment'? Ridiculous indeed. Bring back sportsmanship (if only for one season - for novelty value).
Given players are tested before they play the overwhelming likelihood during the game is that they don't have Covid as they have returned a negative result in order to play.
There is still an incredible amount of stuff going on in society as a whole where the participants haven't returned negative tests. It's not by any means a full lockdown it's a soft Western lockdown with loads of exceptions.
There is still an incredible amount of stuff going on in society as a whole where the participants haven't returned negative tests. It's not by any means a full lockdown it's a soft Western lockdown with loads of exceptions.
I'm sure if BLM rioters can kick off then a few footballers can hug.
They could just shout “HUSSAH” at each other, a bit like Rugby Union where there is no contact whatsoever..... well that’s except for in scrums and when they’re licking each other’s faces on the ground....... Pointing and finger-wagging should also be banned before heading.
Its football that has become a non-contact sport .
The heat of the moment doesn't last the 40/50yds that defenders run to the far corner flag, just to join a bundle.
On the other hand there are many forms of celebrating the goal that for the time being can avoid jumping on each other. The fact the stands are empty should be a pretty clear reminder at all times for the players.
I think the bubble they inhabit is even smaller than you think
When professional football resumed after its enforced break early last year the players seemed to have been aware of the rules about not celebrating and acted accordingly. Why is it different this time?
its almost like they have been told too.isnt it.
Let's face it, these players are no risk to themselves or their young families.
The virtue signalling around football has gone far enough as it is.
Not to mention the constant use of the cameras to show people wearing masks and sitting miles apart in a deserted open air stadium. All of which is frankly ludicrous.
They treat us like children.
The virtue signalling around football has gone far enough as it is.
Not to mention the constant use of the cameras to show people wearing masks and sitting miles apart in a deserted open air stadium. All of which is frankly ludicrous.
They treat us like children.
Banning players from contact with their own team-mates? Seriously?
They've been eating together, training togerher, getting changed next to each other and been tested together all week.
Will they ban contact marking at corners, free kicks and in open play from opposing players from a separate bubble?
They've been eating together, training togerher, getting changed next to each other and been tested together all week.
Will they ban contact marking at corners, free kicks and in open play from opposing players from a separate bubble?
Let's be creative British football .Negative into positive .We want to advertise vaccine uptake right ?.The goals can be celebrated by a mimic of the vaccine jab by the scorer on one of his chosen team mates ! Who is he gonna gonna pick ? Kids would love this celebration.Bit of fun in these dark times ! I personally hope it's Rashford doing the injections on Sunday .
Any unnecessary + avoidable forms of contact in football should be out at the moment.
It may not be nice and some footballers may point blank refuse to accept this but the truth is not celebrating isn't going to affect matches at all.
No one is going to start misplacing passes or shooting into the stands because they can't do a backflip or baby rock gesture.
It may not be nice and some footballers may point blank refuse to accept this but the truth is not celebrating isn't going to affect matches at all.
No one is going to start misplacing passes or shooting into the stands because they can't do a backflip or baby rock gesture.
all sport should be cancelled at this time. Far too many over paid footballers are not following the guidelines. They need to be told that they are NOT above the law.
Let's be creative British football .Negative into positive .We want to advertise vaccine uptake right ?.The goals can be celebrated by a mimic of the vaccine jab by the scorer on one of his chosen team mates ! Who is he gonna gonna pick ? Kids would love this celebration.Bit of fun in these dark times ! I personally hope it's Rashford doing the injections on Sunday .
People can't attend the wake of departed loved ones, other haven't seen families in near on a year yet privileged millionaire footballers, many of whom have flouted rules are taking umbrage at not being able to "hug" their team mates when scoring a goal.
Elite sport should only continue with the support of the public. Not sure about bringing joy to people, more like sharing Covid19 to others.
Elite sport should only continue with the support of the public. Not sure about bringing joy to people, more like sharing Covid19 to others.
That is a tragic reality that so many of us can empathise with. However, it has no relevance to a team of healthy young athletes who have just tested negative for covid.
The pleasure football brings to millions of us in these difficult times is immense. It’s fantastic escapism from our drab lives. We don’t want the sheer emotion of the game watered down for no good reason.
The pleasure football brings to millions of us in these difficult times is immense. It’s fantastic escapism from our drab lives. We don’t want the sheer emotion of the game watered down for no good reason.
I have been unable to hug my children after key birthdays, or grandchildren. I couldn't be with my wife when she died alone.
Lack of discipline off the field for some players has been publicised so there is a greater risk of spreading Covid
Behave or be excluded.The authorities should be tougher, civil fines are no deterrent for higher earners who disrespect themselves, their clubs, and community.
Lack of discipline off the field for some players has been publicised so there is a greater risk of spreading Covid
Behave or be excluded.The authorities should be tougher, civil fines are no deterrent for higher earners who disrespect themselves, their clubs, and community.
Thousands have been through a similar experience. It seems almost criminal to me.
I can't believe there's not a better way.
My condolences.
I can't believe there's not a better way.
My condolences.
I hear what you're saying but come on, put it in context. They are in a bubble and tested regularly, players celebrating hugging each other isn't putting anyone at risk is it. If it is then they shouldn't be playing at all. I've not hugged any of my family either but i'm not going to get offended if I see footballers do it after scoring an important goal.
Sorry for your loss. I have detached myself from football, no interest in it at all now they have such disdain for the public, I could never support it again after 50 years. Moving to rugby now
If it happens this weekend the government shoud end the season on the spot. no excuses, are they grown men (and women) or not?
Who has clicked a thumbs down on here FORTY TWO TIMES?!!!!!!
I played football for 25 years and never felt the need to hug a team mate after a goal. I played in front of no-one just like they are now. I understand they get carried away in front of 40,000 but it's easy to control. If you don't like it, don't play (but don't get paid either!)
Considering these players spend every day together, share a dressing room, coach and everything else I don't see how asking them not to celebrate is anything but ridiculous. Anyone who thinks otherwise in my opinion is absolutely deluded. Just use your brain and tell me how everything else is fine but the moment they hug it becomes a problem. Can't believe there is even a conversation about it!
This misses the point. There are swathes of people during Covid who have not been able to hug loved ones since March. Then you see players fawning over each other after a goal. It's the fact that the players have no awareness of how their actions may affect the rest of the population in this pandemic rather than the act of doing it, which may be Covid safe due to testing. They're dumb & selfish.
Thought your comment was reasonable until you labelled anyone who disagrees with you deluded.
There's a good argument for both sides in this debate.
There's a good argument for both sides in this debate.
Everything else is not fine, as the significant increases in cases of Covid in the Premier League are showing. Not to mention the regular breach of guidelines by players
Let's be creative British football .Negative into positive .We want to advertise vaccine uptake right ?.The goals can be celebrated by a mimic of the vaccine jab by the scorer on one of his chosen team mates ! Who is he gonna gonna pick ? Kids would love this celebration.Bit of fun in these dark times ! I personally hope it's Rashford doing the injections on Sunday .
If they stand still like a FIFA emoji 99.9% who post on here will associate with that
All this crowding together and rolling around on the ground after a goal is scored is totally false. It's all aimed at convincing the manager and the fans that they are committed to the club, nothing more.
I have been unable to hug my children after key birthdays, or grandchildren. I couldn't be with my wife when she died alone.
Lack of discipline off the field for some players has been publicised so there is a greater risk of spreading Covid
Behave or be excluded.The authorities should be tougher, civil fines are no deterrent for higher earners who disrespect themselves, their clubs, and community.
Lack of discipline off the field for some players has been publicised so there is a greater risk of spreading Covid
Behave or be excluded.The authorities should be tougher, civil fines are no deterrent for higher earners who disrespect themselves, their clubs, and community.
I have been unable to hug my children after key birthdays, or grandchildren. I couldn't be with my wife when she died alone.
Lack of discipline off the field for some players has been publicised so there is a greater risk of spreading Covid
Behave or be excluded.The authorities should be tougher, civil fines are no deterrent for higher earners who disrespect themselves, their clubs, and community.
Lack of discipline off the field for some players has been publicised so there is a greater risk of spreading Covid
Behave or be excluded.The authorities should be tougher, civil fines are no deterrent for higher earners who disrespect themselves, their clubs, and community.
I hear what you're saying but come on, put it in context. They are in a bubble and tested regularly, players celebrating hugging each other isn't putting anyone at risk is it. If it is then they shouldn't be playing at all. I've not hugged any of my family either but i'm not going to get offended if I see footballers do it after scoring an important goal.
Half agree. The reality is that until the minority of footballers take the bubbles seriously, then, all footballers will need to stop celebrations. They have no one to blame but the minority, as in life in general. Football mirrors life. We are in lockdowns because of the mindless few, like racism, this isn't a footballing issue but a societal one.
So do they live in the stadium ?..don,t they go home to wives & kids ? Do wives & kids get tested ?
Why are so many players & staff testing positive then ? It,s not a flaming bubble !
They can be trained to run the clock down celebrating but can,t be when it comes to showing some restraint & thereby setting an example.
Why are so many players & staff testing positive then ? It,s not a flaming bubble !
They can be trained to run the clock down celebrating but can,t be when it comes to showing some restraint & thereby setting an example.
I think that is the point most are missing. These players are tested every few days and so whether they physically touch in a tackle or hug when they score, they have been tested positive so it makes no difference. Football is only being allowed for our entertainment and the fact they hug when a goal scored is only acceptable because they are all negative and had tests withinf the last 24 hours.
Considering these players spend every day together, share a dressing room, coach and everything else I don't see how asking them not to celebrate is anything but ridiculous. Anyone who thinks otherwise in my opinion is absolutely deluded. Just use your brain and tell me how everything else is fine but the moment they hug it becomes a problem. Can't believe there is even a conversation about it!
This misses the point. There are swathes of people during Covid who have not been able to hug loved ones since March. Then you see players fawning over each other after a goal. It's the fact that the players have no awareness of how their actions may affect the rest of the population in this pandemic rather than the act of doing it, which may be Covid safe due to testing. They're dumb & selfish.
If you're going to get upset at them hugging, then surely them even playing and being on tv will be enough to do that then no? Are these same people sat there cheering there team on then when they score and see them hugging then immediately turn to depression? If what you say is true then there should be no programmes on tv shown where close contact is shown right? Same thing no?
I haven't seen my family since March, I want my team to celebrate a goal and don't begrudge any team who does.
Football is sterile enough with VAR taking the passion away, it doesn't need killing anymore
Football is sterile enough with VAR taking the passion away, it doesn't need killing anymore
So, instead of focusing on idiots who refuse to wear face coverings in inside public spaces, people driving long distances to “exercise” or politicians who think the rules don’t apply to them, we seem to be debating the behaviour of groups who are tested twice weekly, exist in their own bubbles and are providing millions with some form of mental respite from a global pandemic. Really?
It's an instinctive reaction how you celebrate a goal, if you are well ahead in a match and you are definitely likely to win the game after scoring a third or fourth goal without reply you're celebration with your teammates will likely be more restrained. But if it's a last gasp winner, you naturally react to the goal in a completely different way.
Considering these players spend every day together, share a dressing room, coach and everything else I don't see how asking them not to celebrate is anything but ridiculous. Anyone who thinks otherwise in my opinion is absolutely deluded. Just use your brain and tell me how everything else is fine but the moment they hug it becomes a problem. Can't believe there is even a conversation about it!
Fair enough but I really don't believe there is an argument to both sides tbh. The only argument should be cancel all sports and lock everyone away or accept that elite sport is continuing as normal as it can be to provide entertainment to the people who can't leave the house. If the health risk is that bad from hugging after a goal then they shouldn't be there at all should they
I would rather they just adhere to the rules when off the football pitch.
Not denying footballers are proper daft at times, but the Man City Covid cases have been proven to originate from an outbreak at the London Hotel they stayed in when playing Arsenal.
Only arrogant millionaire footballers are so stupid as to moan against the slightest hardship of being asked not to touch each other. It's not like they're being asked NOT to celebrate, just dont touch each other. Then they wonder why their squad goes down with covid... idiots.
Don't you see how stupid your comment is? They're playing football, avoiding contact is impossible so pointless saying hugging should be banned after they celebrate. Fine to tussle for the ball, go up for headers and slide tackles but hugging after scoring.. oh no can't do that. Sums up this mental world we now live in
Any unnecessary + avoidable forms of contact in football should be out at the moment.
It may not be nice and some footballers may point blank refuse to accept this but the truth is not celebrating isn't going to affect matches at all.
No one is going to start misplacing passes or shooting into the stands because they can't do a backflip or baby rock gesture.
It may not be nice and some footballers may point blank refuse to accept this but the truth is not celebrating isn't going to affect matches at all.
No one is going to start misplacing passes or shooting into the stands because they can't do a backflip or baby rock gesture.
"Alan Shearer managed to celebrate" ... Egotistical, self opinionated Geordie? That wasn't a celebration it was a "I'm the best there is!" statement... Unfortunately he was pretty good... but if I remember rightly, the only thing he was able to "celebrate" was a title with Blackburn and fairly certain there was more emotion than a raised arm at that point
On the other hand there are many forms of celebrating the goal that for the time being can avoid jumping on each other. The fact the stands are empty should be a pretty clear reminder at all times for the players.
The media yet again whipping up an issue for easy stories .. in reality they shouldn't even be playing and risking their health as well as their families health but they are So while a defender from another team can bear hug an attack at a corner is OK, how can a quick hug with a guy you have just spent 12 hours a day with for the last few weeks with be an issue ?
This misses the point. There are swathes of people during Covid who have not been able to hug loved ones since March. Then you see players fawning over each other after a goal. It's the fact that the players have no awareness of how their actions may affect the rest of the population in this pandemic rather than the act of doing it, which may be Covid safe due to testing. They're dumb & selfish.
If you're going to get upset at them hugging, then surely them even playing and being on tv will be enough to do that then no? Are these same people sat there cheering there team on then when they score and see them hugging then immediately turn to depression? If what you say is true then there should be no programmes on tv shown where close contact is shown right? Same thing no?
Given players are tested before they play the overwhelming likelihood during the game is that they don't have Covid as they have returned a negative result in order to play.
There is still an incredible amount of stuff going on in society as a whole where the participants haven't returned negative tests. It's not by any means a full lockdown it's a soft Western lockdown with loads of exceptions.
There is still an incredible amount of stuff going on in society as a whole where the participants haven't returned negative tests. It's not by any means a full lockdown it's a soft Western lockdown with loads of exceptions.
Fair enough but I really don't believe there is an argument to both sides tbh. The only argument should be cancel all sports and lock everyone away or accept that elite sport is continuing as normal as it can be to provide entertainment to the people who can't leave the house. If the health risk is that bad from hugging after a goal then they shouldn't be there at all should they
Everyone has to have their MOT done during this 'lockdown' how do people distance from mechanic having been all over their cars touching at everything & from all the other people at the garage.
shops open
schools open to many
nurseries open
construction sites open
churches open
loads of people not working form home
'lockdown' don't make me laugh
But footballers that have been tested are playing! Removed
shops open
schools open to many
nurseries open
construction sites open
churches open
loads of people not working form home
'lockdown' don't make me laugh
But footballers that have been tested are playing! Removed
What about the gratuitous spitting? It isn't hard or cool, and (in a pandemic) it is brainless!
If footballers are going to catch Covid from each other, celebrations aren't going to make a difference. Anyone who has ever tackled someone and got some sweaty shirt in the face will know what I mean. It's a contact sport, therefore contact can't be avoided.
Premier League players on the pitch are in theory Covid negative but they should be setting an example to all those thick members of the public who even now still go to supermarkets without wearing masks.
I am not sure if it is a contact sport the way they fall over in agony after the slightest of touches
It was a contact sport, its not now with the overpaid pampered cry baby's
People can't attend the wake of departed loved ones, other haven't seen families in near on a year yet privileged millionaire footballers, many of whom have flouted rules are taking umbrage at not being able to "hug" their team mates when scoring a goal.
Elite sport should only continue with the support of the public. Not sure about bringing joy to people, more like sharing Covid19 to others.
Elite sport should only continue with the support of the public. Not sure about bringing joy to people, more like sharing Covid19 to others.
That is a tragic reality that so many of us can empathise with. However, it has no relevance to a team of healthy young athletes who have just tested negative for covid.
The pleasure football brings to millions of us in these difficult times is immense. It’s fantastic escapism from our drab lives. We don’t want the sheer emotion of the game watered down for no good reason.
The pleasure football brings to millions of us in these difficult times is immense. It’s fantastic escapism from our drab lives. We don’t want the sheer emotion of the game watered down for no good reason.
However true what you say is, it is being aired in an atmosphere of whipped up paranoia and commented upon by many whose 'objections' are based on liking sports that can only dream of the popularity football has. Sat at home, the bored /self righteous have a daily diet of things to be 'outraged' by and wouldn't comprehend the passion of football at all levels, however dumbed down the explanation,
Kissing and cuddling is a relatively new phenomenon. Score and get on with the game. Celebrate the victory at the end.
Every goal is celebrated like a world cup win these days. Barely tolerable in normal times but totally unacceptable today.
When Liverpool beat a weakened Villa team they demonstrated restraint and respect for the opposition. Don't tell me it's uncontrollable joy. It isn't.
Every goal is celebrated like a world cup win these days. Barely tolerable in normal times but totally unacceptable today.
When Liverpool beat a weakened Villa team they demonstrated restraint and respect for the opposition. Don't tell me it's uncontrollable joy. It isn't.
Kissing and cuddling is a relatively new phenomenon. Score and get on with the game. Celebrate the victory at the end.
Every goal is celebrated like a world cup win these days. Barely tolerable in normal times but totally unacceptable today.
When Liverpool beat a weakened Villa team they demonstrated restraint and respect for the opposition. Don't tell me it's uncontrollable joy. It isn't.
Every goal is celebrated like a world cup win these days. Barely tolerable in normal times but totally unacceptable today.
When Liverpool beat a weakened Villa team they demonstrated restraint and respect for the opposition. Don't tell me it's uncontrollable joy. It isn't.
And your probably a proper drama queen.
I won't jump on your every time something happens if that's what you mean ;)
I won't jump on your every time something happens if that's what you mean ;)
Not sure what Boris' salary has to do with anything? (Quick search tells me he is worth 3.1 million btw so I don't know how he manages). Point I was making is that it's a tiny amount of footballers breaking the rules, and that it's not exclusive to the football industry, so why should that mean cancel all sport? It's the only thing keeping some people going at the moment
I have a problem with "earns" where Bozo is concerned!
Football and even a few here still not getting the significance of a negative test result. For those of us that have had one, it clearly states you are only negative on the day of the test. It is no guarantee to being -ve the following day. You're -ve one day and +ve the next, that's how it works. Appears that clubs get there results the day before matchday, contact should be limited.
Surely celebrating a goal is no different to standing in a wall, marking people from corners, standing in the tunnel before the game, being in the changing room together?? This is ludicrous.
Also, if they are worried about contact in football, there is another sport that is continuing which has a lot more contact than football - rugby. Scrums, rucks, tackles were you cannot avoid contact.
Also, if they are worried about contact in football, there is another sport that is continuing which has a lot more contact than football - rugby. Scrums, rucks, tackles were you cannot avoid contact.
Lots of stupidity. Prematch handshake is banned, no, can't have that, covid risk, but after the match is ok. Teams walk onto the pitch separately, but at HT walk off all together. Then teams then come out 2nd half, separately, then all walk off together at the end. Work that load of bs out.
Some of things you mention are arguably "essential" parts of the game- Goal celebrations are not "essential"
They say they can't control themselves...
How about all the post match handshakes etc with the opposition, can they not control that either? Smacks of a rules don't apply to us attitude - not helpful.
They may be tested regularly but more players/staff are now getting infected and taking that infection home.
What other professional can't control their behaviour for the good of other people?
How about all the post match handshakes etc with the opposition, can they not control that either? Smacks of a rules don't apply to us attitude - not helpful.
They may be tested regularly but more players/staff are now getting infected and taking that infection home.
What other professional can't control their behaviour for the good of other people?
All this crowding together and rolling around on the ground after a goal is scored is totally false. It's all aimed at convincing the manager and the fans that they are committed to the club, nothing more.
Exactly, they do it because they are not but want to pretend that they are.
Hugging is not the biggest problem, spitting and blowing their noses is far worst, I have played for 15 years and never had to blow my nose or spit, a rule should be brought in in the player wants to avoid a card they should ask the ref to leave the field to spit in a bucket or blow their nose.
this comment could easily have come from the 1930's
Spitting in all sports is a very bad habit and should be stopped. A red card should be issued
Ask the ref to leave the pitch. Please sir can I go and blow my nose.
- People that can't work from home don't work from home
- Footballer fit in this category
- Difference is their job takes place outdoors & they're tested regularly
- Therefore they're a group not working from home that present less risk from spread than most groups in that category
- As footballers are in squad bubble rules should apply to them in way apply to other bubbles of which there are many
- Footballer fit in this category
- Difference is their job takes place outdoors & they're tested regularly
- Therefore they're a group not working from home that present less risk from spread than most groups in that category
- As footballers are in squad bubble rules should apply to them in way apply to other bubbles of which there are many
Footballers are so much better than us and they are entitled to do as they like. Why can’t the paying public who are stuck at home or working for £9.00 an hour and having to socially distance accept this?
That is a tragic reality that so many of us can empathise with. However, it has no relevance to a team of healthy young athletes who have just tested negative for covid.
The pleasure football brings to millions of us in these difficult times is immense. It’s fantastic escapism from our drab lives. We don’t want the sheer emotion of the game watered down for no good reason.
The pleasure football brings to millions of us in these difficult times is immense. It’s fantastic escapism from our drab lives. We don’t want the sheer emotion of the game watered down for no good reason.
However true what you say is, it is being aired in an atmosphere of whipped up paranoia and commented upon by many whose 'objections' are based on liking sports that can only dream of the popularity football has. Sat at home, the bored /self righteous have a daily diet of things to be 'outraged' by and wouldn't comprehend the passion of football at all levels, however dumbed down the explanation,
Many are commenting on the joy football brings,have they been watching any of the live games, most are dreadful and even crowds couldn't make them any better.
As for hugging and kissing and snot blowing, these guys are supposed to be roll models not setting a good example.
As for hugging and kissing and snot blowing, these guys are supposed to be roll models not setting a good example.
"Scoring is the best feeling in the world. Imagine scoring a goal as a 16-year-old in the FA Cup and you have to stand there with your hands up like a Fifa emoji."
Does Charlie Austin realise there have been further versions of FIFA since 95?
Does Charlie Austin realise there have been further versions of FIFA since 95?
Not sure what Boris' salary has to do with anything? (Quick search tells me he is worth 3.1 million btw so I don't know how he manages). Point I was making is that it's a tiny amount of footballers breaking the rules, and that it's not exclusive to the football industry, so why should that mean cancel all sport? It's the only thing keeping some people going at the moment
Surely celebrating a goal is no different to standing in a wall, marking people from corners, standing in the tunnel before the game, being in the changing room together?? This is ludicrous.
Also, if they are worried about contact in football, there is another sport that is continuing which has a lot more contact than football - rugby. Scrums, rucks, tackles were you cannot avoid contact.
Also, if they are worried about contact in football, there is another sport that is continuing which has a lot more contact than football - rugby. Scrums, rucks, tackles were you cannot avoid contact.
"Scoring is the best feeling in the world. Imagine scoring a goal as a 16-year-old in the FA Cup and you have to stand there with your hands up like a Fifa emoji."
Does Charlie Austin realise there have been further versions of FIFA since 95?
Does Charlie Austin realise there have been further versions of FIFA since 95?
Surely celebrating a goal is no different to standing in a wall, marking people from corners, standing in the tunnel before the game, being in the changing room together?? This is ludicrous.
Also, if they are worried about contact in football, there is another sport that is continuing which has a lot more contact than football - rugby. Scrums, rucks, tackles were you cannot avoid contact.
Also, if they are worried about contact in football, there is another sport that is continuing which has a lot more contact than football - rugby. Scrums, rucks, tackles were you cannot avoid contact.
All this hugging is a fairly recent thing. Back in the day Dennis Law was thought too demonstrative because he stuck his arm in the air when he scored. As for all the rehearsed "Celebrations"? Pathetic. Its the crowd that celebrates.
Back in the day players could take their shirt off in celebration - no need for hugging... hang about... here's an idea
let them twirl their shirt around their head Giggsy style all they want and book the huggers!
let them twirl their shirt around their head Giggsy style all they want and book the huggers!
mouse i think the point is that people are more accepting of homophilia these days and to prohibit them from hugging will send out a wrong message.
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Hugging being a recent thing is a myth By chance just watched a video of Eusebio scoring & celebrating/hugging
That stiff upper lip nonsense can lead to serious mental health issues. Mental health is pertinent right now
Issue is reluctance to stop football due to MONEY. If football is to continue it needs tighter bubbles - personnel having no outside contact. But that also can have adverse effects
That stiff upper lip nonsense can lead to serious mental health issues. Mental health is pertinent right now
Issue is reluctance to stop football due to MONEY. If football is to continue it needs tighter bubbles - personnel having no outside contact. But that also can have adverse effects
They really are childish with brains in theit boots. they disgust me.
If footballers are going to catch Covid from each other, celebrations aren't going to make a difference. Anyone who has ever tackled someone and got some sweaty shirt in the face will know what I mean. It's a contact sport, therefore contact can't be avoided.
That's a nonsensical comparison. I doubt seeing players muted celebrations is going to get someone to suddenly wear a mask. I do agree, that there seems to be a lot of players talking about it though, when it really isn't a massive sacrifice given they can still play football. But i also agree, that the bubbles they are in, mean that celebrations shouldn't be an issue. I guess its safety first
Yeah because when I’ve been to Asda and I get my 4 pints of semi skimmed I always feel so lucky and have a mass milk hug with other random shoppers!
You are totally an utterly wrong and out of touch with reality.
But their purpose is to entertain us and give us something to look forward too and enjoy during the dark winter of another lockdown. It's very important for our mental health to have things like this. If we sterilize everything so much it stops being fun to watch then they might as well stop playing now.
"Scoring is the best feeling in the world. Imagine scoring a goal as a 16-year-old in the FA Cup and you have to stand there with your hands up like a Fifa emoji."
Does Charlie Austin realise there have been further versions of FIFA since 95?
Does Charlie Austin realise there have been further versions of FIFA since 95?
There’s no lack of pens FOR Utd to win the game. Like the one given 10 mins into injury time at 2-2 v Brighton. t The twice taken one at 0-0 v West Brom. The one awarded for Pogba tripping himself up at 1-1 v Villa
But I was referring to the ones chalked off by VAR against Utd when the game is level. Like 0-0 v Chelsea (slabheadlock). Or 0-0 v West Brom clear foul by Penandes given by ref. etc
But I was referring to the ones chalked off by VAR against Utd when the game is level. Like 0-0 v Chelsea (slabheadlock). Or 0-0 v West Brom clear foul by Penandes given by ref. etc
As a Pastor I have had to lead funerals at which people were not allowed to hug. If the genuine emotional turmoil of the death of a loved one is not an excuse for physical contact then surely footballers can show some restraint. Grow up!
I see your argument, but at both my parents' funerals the last thing I wanted was a hug or anything - I just wanted to get back to some semblance of normality, and I think I spent most of the day on my own. That is not the case when my side scores a fourth away from home on a Tuesday night in a game that the form book said we should have lost. Everybody is different when it comes to emotion.
The players quoted in this article just don't get it. Players who go to parties or have people round for dinner don't get it. They think all they have to do is accept a days negative comment and say sorry & it's forgotten.
But these are rules they & we are being told to live by. Their opinions carry no weight. Clubs should ram the message home & suspend without pay players who transgress.
But these are rules they & we are being told to live by. Their opinions carry no weight. Clubs should ram the message home & suspend without pay players who transgress.