Marcus Rashford and top chefs demand free school meals review
15/01/2021 | news | politics | 4,300
The footballer joins celebrities and campaigners to call for action in a letter to the prime minister.
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If we all paid a tiny bit more tax it would cover this.
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15/01/2021 10:49:56 17 6
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Good luck getting Amazon and Boots to pay any taxes.
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15/01/2021 10:51:23 5 8
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Indeed there's plenty of money or wealth in this country it just needs distributing a bit more equitably. Don't worry right wingers it's not Communism/Marxism whatever the Daily Mail says.......
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15/01/2021 10:56:45 9 3
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We pay enough. Almost 50% in direct taxation in some cases. That's not fair.
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15/01/2021 11:00:08 4 5
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Most of us pay enough tax already, it is higher end earners (such as premier league footballers) who should pay a bit more as they can earn it

Also if massive corperations were made to pay a higher share that they can easily afford then we would all be in a better situation, time to start closing the loopholes
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15/01/2021 11:03:58 5 1
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Rashford is worth £65 million - if he pays a bit more TAX - i Will!
As a % of income I bet I pay more Tax - I cant afford the clever accountants.
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15/01/2021 10:48:21 20 24
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It seems that beggars can be choosers.
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15/01/2021 10:50:08 16 10
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Stop being so bitter.
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15/01/2021 10:48:57 81 24
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All those demanding we cut foreign aid so we “look after our own” should be coming out supporting these demands. Anything else is double standards.
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15/01/2021 10:55:54 71 36
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Having spent over 22 billion and counting on a completely useless test and trace system, surely we can afford both?
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15/01/2021 12:06:13 7 4
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The state should not be doing what parents should be responsible for, more than absolutely necessary.
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15/01/2021 10:49:06 13 26
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Mr Rashford is a national treasure.
And all the top chefs are jumping on the band wagon. Jamie Oliver!! Scum of the earth. 1300 jobs gone and profit tucked away off shore some where. Removed
Rashford is a leech on the poor. He is paid from their Sky TV subscriptions Removed
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15/01/2021 10:49:26 26 25
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Good for Rashford & Co. An 80 seat majority is useless in the face of common sense and compassion.
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15/01/2021 10:49:32 55 24
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Well done Rashford.

I would also like to see you challenge your many peers to contribute heavily financially to the futures of our children.
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15/01/2021 10:53:13 32 9
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Many peers? Do you mean footballers or just wealthy individuals, presumably the latter through a fair equitable tax system rather than a specific subset?
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15/01/2021 10:53:34 13 3
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Fair enough, but why single out footballers. What about the elite in politics and finance, not to mention multinational corporations, who are many times more duplicitous.
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15/01/2021 10:54:28 4 3
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Many of them already do but it goes unreported.
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15/01/2021 11:06:59 8 4
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Why is it their responsibility exactly? Just because they are rich doesnt mean they should be bailing out the governments inaction
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15/01/2021 12:06:11 2 0
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Some of them do.... the trouble here being that as they are mostly foreigners, they support schemes in their own country.....
15/01/2021 11:55:18 1 2
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he grew up poor relax ...he didnt come from white privilege
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15/01/2021 10:48:09 11 28
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If we all paid a tiny bit more tax it would cover this.
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15/01/2021 10:49:56 17 6
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Good luck getting Amazon and Boots to pay any taxes.
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15/01/2021 10:49:57 19 26
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What a shocking state of affairs that this even needs to be raised. This government really are vile.
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15/01/2021 10:53:43 17 7
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Rubbish, Why is it the governments fault that humans are running out of control with no dense of responsibility.
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15/01/2021 10:56:56 5 1
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They are - but don't don't take every story at face value either. There's a far bigger problem with obesity than hunger in this country. The cost of a McD 'treat' would feed a child properly for a week. It's FAR more complex than a headline (or millionaire footballer) suggests.
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15/01/2021 10:48:21 20 24
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It seems that beggars can be choosers.
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15/01/2021 10:50:08 16 10
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Stop being so bitter.
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15/01/2021 11:10:50 1 2
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Stop being so bitter about someone being so bitter.
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15/01/2021 10:50:20 284 61
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There's a lot more that can be done in educating parents in budgeting and cooking before we swell the bloated Social Services budget further.
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15/01/2021 10:57:11 91 143
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It takes money to make a budget, my friend.
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"I'm Alright Jack", said a red neck.
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Moz
15/01/2021 11:04:13 14 11
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See: "I want the money for my pension - not feeding kids"
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15/01/2021 11:09:50 15 10
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If we want to reduce the bloated Social Services budget shall we cut the triple lock on state pensions as pensions are the biggest part of this budget. Failing that all benefits inflate by the same escalator would seem fair. Currently pensions get the best deal by far.......
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15/01/2021 11:37:29 11 11
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Selfish Tory Britain judging by the top comment and it's that selfish, look after number 1 attitude, that is making the pandemic worse. I'll do what I want, it's not my problem, I managed okay so why can't you? And we wonder why nothing ever, ever changes.
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15/01/2021 11:38:35 12 5
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Social Services is fine without parasitical private companies overcharging for things just because they have friends in gov.
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15/01/2021 11:40:51 16 3
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There's a family in social housing a few doors from me. They seem to order takeaways most days, only eat about a third of it, then toss contents outside without bagging it. Why do they order takeaways when they aren't hungry and got more money than sense.
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15/01/2021 11:43:18 2 4
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Wonder what that would cost Red Neck. . .
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Zig
15/01/2021 11:44:22 2 5
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So how much is "bloated"? Not a very helpful aid to measuring or discussing anything really is it.
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15/01/2021 11:48:12 6 5
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60% cut in Central Government stipend over 10 years. That's why your council Tax keeps going up!
The only thing that's bloated is the ego of those who think Public Servants are parasites!
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15/01/2021 11:54:29 3 6
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Most money spent giving rich OAP’s handouts. More money keeping the old rich then the poor food
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EU imported produce is very expensive...so that needs to change in a new trade deal
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15/01/2021 12:06:13 2 2
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Quite so ...feckless parents is the issue.
15/01/2021 12:13:18 3 2
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Majority of the Social Services budget in spent on the the old us boomers, who in their youth had a far more benevolent welfare. Often with Mummy at home because in those days Daddies income was enough. Oh the old so self smug, and do remember I am a boomer, so I know your lies.
15/01/2021 12:28:04 3 1
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Family planning too.
15/01/2021 12:28:09 2 1
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Perhaps there should be cooking programmes on the tele?
15/01/2021 12:28:45 2 3
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Yes much better to swell the coffers of profiteering Tories.
15/01/2021 13:19:08 3 2
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Sorry education cuts mean we can hardly teach the kids let alone the parents.
Maybe educating them to vote for a party which won't cut budgets, whilst giving billions to their mates and relatives would be a start
15/01/2021 14:49:28 0 0
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Quite right. And if children have to go hungry while we educate their parents then that's not a problem is it.
15/01/2021 17:36:23 0 0
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Some neck - cut as you know.
16/01/2021 08:01:00 0 2
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Domestic science (cooking) was dropped in schools as the PC brigade said it was sexist and discriminatory. Left wing education continues to wreck our children's lives. Enough. Get back to basics.
16/01/2021 09:35:59 2 0
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Oh yes, parents should educated in:
- How to budget without knowing how many hours they'll be paid for next week.
- How to cook when there's no money to top up the electric.

Or maybe self-righteous people with steady incomes, full cupboards & dual-fuel deals need help imagining life without their advantages.
16/01/2021 17:04:01 1 0
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The only thing bloated by this is the bank balances of the Tory chums paying £5 and keeping £25 of the £30 of my taxes.
I'd happily see twice that go to the families... preferably at the expense of the tax dodgers that sponsor the extreme right.
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Turkey Twizzlers don't see so bad now! #takemeback
Good idea vouchers instead of food boxes. Makes it easier to purchase cigs and scratch cards. Removed
Idiot, you can only use vouchers to buy food. Removed
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15/01/2021 10:56:05 3 0
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Perhaps the thing might be to have vouchers that can only be used at food banks.
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15/01/2021 11:00:07 0 1
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Grow up
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15/01/2021 10:48:09 11 28
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If we all paid a tiny bit more tax it would cover this.
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Indeed there's plenty of money or wealth in this country it just needs distributing a bit more equitably. Don't worry right wingers it's not Communism/Marxism whatever the Daily Mail says.......
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15/01/2021 10:51:31 13 17
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Why does it always take somebody else to prick Tory social conscience! Collectively they seem utterly incapable of showing any sense of socio-economic empathy. Always the cost of everything value of nothing brigade!
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RJS
15/01/2021 10:51:35 225 65
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SIMPLES - have kids be prepared to pay for them!
Benefits should be for those in dire need through no fault of their own.
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How heartless, does your crystal ball enable you to forsee unemployment and illnes in 10 years time?
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15/01/2021 10:55:40 20 15
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Spot on. A refreshing change to hear sense spoken.
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15/01/2021 10:56:16 22 19
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A very sad comment, during such exceptional circumstances. Is this the type of attitude we want to live within?
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15/01/2021 10:59:28 16 14
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Simples ? Maybe you are.

You are definitely Captain Hindsight.

Did you see the pandemic coming ?

No, me neither.
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15/01/2021 11:01:52 21 13
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And if not, punish the kids. Make them go hungry. Let me guess, you support this government?
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15/01/2021 11:03:53 23 6
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Like losing your income due to a pandemic.
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15/01/2021 11:13:59 22 8
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Let us just assume that as you postulate, many of the recipients of these meals are, indeed, the offspring of feckless parents with no thought for the consequences of their actions.

Are you genuinely suggesting public health should be witheld so that people learn the lesson - even if it leaves their kids malnourished? Seriously?

You are Tory through and through, sir.
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15/01/2021 11:17:57 13 4
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So we punish the children for the mistakes of their parents, is that it?
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15/01/2021 11:49:53 8 6
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SIMPLES - have kids be prepared to pay for them!

Spot on. If children find they are in a family that can't, for whatever reason, feed them properly then the children must suffer so they learn that next time they chose who their parents are they chose wealthier ones.
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15/01/2021 12:01:09 6 2
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You mean like the millions of people who have been made redundant because of the pandemic.
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15/01/2021 11:47:37 2 4
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benefits doesn't pay for both drugs and a meal
15/01/2021 12:19:15 4 2
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So losing your livelihood through a pandemic is your own fault?

The volume of spiteful, callous and judgemental posts on this HYS is stomach-churning.
15/01/2021 12:31:16 2 2
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Ah ! The product of a private education I suspect.
15/01/2021 12:33:44 0 1
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The Rees-Mogg code of social responsibility.
15/01/2021 12:46:24 0 1
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What about rape? What about people who have been abused by their partner into having children? What about families who have broken apart by divorce, adultery or death? What about families where one parent lost their job (that happens you know at no fault of your own)? What about the fact we guilt trip women when they don't have children so many have children despite actually not wanting them?
15/01/2021 12:53:45 0 0
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Well, families where the bread winner has been made redundant are in dire need. Or don't you see that!
15/01/2021 13:05:53 0 1
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Benefits are already only for those in need. That's not changed since the year 1603, except a few benefits for pensioners that are given regardless of need.

I didn;t have kids 13 years ago because I knew then that this pandemic might cost me my income. Everyone that had kids, ever, is totally to blame for their lack of clarivoyance.

Same for anyone getting robbed, raped, murdered: yes?
15/01/2021 13:41:00 0 2
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Like pensioners?
15/01/2021 17:37:34 0 0
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SIMPLES - you'll like it then.
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Rob
15/01/2021 10:51:42 83 18
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This is very worthy, but it does evade the essential issue.

The trick here is to end POVERTY, not just food poverty. Families able to support themselves do not need to rely on unfriendly, bureaucratic, ham-fisted and tight-fisted government policies to feed their kids.

If we do not do this, then everything concerning living will always be a patchwork of neglect and partial support for them.
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15/01/2021 11:00:43 39 12
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Working people need to be paid more and taxed less
This will only result from increased efficiency and productivity in both the private and public sectors of the economy
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15/01/2021 11:01:51 8 0
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The best way to do it? Invest in an economy that will provide good and productive jobs for people.

Won't happen though, as increasing amounts of the national wealth are used to further inflate our economically useless and damaging asset bubble.
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15/01/2021 11:02:00 13 1
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Poverty is income below 60% of the average - so it will always exist. Too often (not always) the issue is feckless parent(s). I wouldn't support this awful government's approach but infinite expenditure will not resolve this issue on its own.
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15/01/2021 11:03:54 6 3
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Existing government policy and Covid have moved more families into poverty. And early reports on Brexit's 'teething problems' will increase it further.
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Bob
15/01/2021 11:25:07 12 3
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You cannot end poverty any more. The de facto definition of poverty in the media and campaigners is now relative poverty and means you can have a car, feed yourself and have a house but still be in poverty. That's a nonsense.

One group likes to claim over half of us are in poverty.

There's hardly anyone in REAL poverty in this country thanks to the benefit system.
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EU made poverty worse in UK
15/01/2021 13:17:48 1 0
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Lessons in home economics and parental responsibility. Would be a start. Generations now of this not being done in the family so over load the curriculum
15/01/2021 14:16:02 1 0
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Well said! This article, and many of the comments here, merely highlight the moral bankruptcy of many who seem to lack compassion or humanity.
These are CHILDREN we're talking about, not some kind of asset or hedge fund.
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15/01/2021 16:56:33 1 0
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Rob, a point well made. But how do you get passed:

1) The people who just don't want to work
2) Those who have worked out that it more beneficial to work less hours than more?

Gov was going right way with benefit cap etc, but needed to go further with minimum hours required.
15/01/2021 17:17:42 0 0
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Don't any of these people have family & friends who might help?
16/01/2021 15:30:33 0 0
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Rnd poverty but I remember recent tv proh abou benefit office in Leeds. Staff were straightforward, patient, helpful, only became more demanding if claimants failed to keep to agreements, interviews, opportunities made for them. At times even I felt they were being too kind. They helped several by tougher love to get into employment, did wonders for these claimants' circumstances and morale.
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15/01/2021 10:52:20 8 9
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School meals will be made up of cheap cuts of meat including the chlorinated chicken from the USA. Hope Jamie and co look into all the other state run institutions using poor quality foods. In my experience hospitals vary. One thing is for sure the food quality in the HOC is high.
Noted the TV news clip of the complaining mum taking food from the American-style fridge in her trendy modern kitchen!

Always two sides to a story. Of course we should support kids who don't have enough good food but how much of the effort and cost is well targetted?

Has anyone investigated the ownership of the scumbag company dishing out the dreadful hampers? Any political connections?
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Chartwells, part of Compass Group, were given the contract to supply emergency packages to families who would usually rely on free school meals as children were forced to learn from home.

The group’s former chairman, Paul Walsh, was once a member of David Cameron’s business advisory group and a Conservative Party donor.
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15/01/2021 10:57:45 24 5
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I noticed that too. I'd love one of those fridges but could never afford it (I spent the money on feeding my own kids)
The story was then repeated on our local news, but this time the "struggling mum" was shown in close up taking the items out of the parcel. So you could not miss the fact that she had freshly applied fake gel nails (bright blue) and tattoos on both wrists (what did they cost?)
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The 'scumbag' company should have been investigated prior to getting the contract.
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Any political connections? Go on, take a guess!
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15/01/2021 11:19:14 7 5
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And do you know for sure that that family are not perhaps - like many families - facing hard times due to the pandemic? Do you expect them to pawn their kitchen??

Can we have a little less judgemental finger-pointing on here please?
Was that the same clip where it ended with her loading the dishwasher? Poverty my @rse. Removed
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15/01/2021 11:27:10 2 2
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The owners of famous brands of Cornish pasties, malt loaf and pork pies have their grubby paws on tax payers cash. Very little focus on those who have more than their fair share and outrage at those who have very little.
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15/01/2021 11:27:20 6 4
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Funny how they manage to post pictures on a platform with a device which surely costs money? Why is it my responsibility to feed what appears to be every kid in Britain?
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15/01/2021 11:42:51 3 0
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"Poverty" is a relative term- it could be contended that there are very few families in poverty today, compared to maybe 50 years ago, when some of my friends' parents' houses would have no carpets, pre-war shoddy furniture, no TV, no phone.... and certainly no car or fridge! It's a question of priorities, what's more important, putting food on the table or having new phones and trainers?
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15/01/2021 11:45:25 1 0
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American style fridge? Why do Americans have the better fridge
Tosh, pandering to a nobody because he is the right colour. If you can't afford food for you own kids, you should not be having them. Removed
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15/01/2021 10:54:26 13 8
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Typical DM reader, things change in between having kids and the future for example a pandemic and recession
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Racist
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15/01/2021 10:52:32 15 20
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5th richest country in the world, enormous amounts of child poverty. Tory Britain works out really well for a few, but not for the majority of people.
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Our government has had to be shamed every step of the way on this.
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The eat out to help out scheme was fine, go outside everyone! Buy a maccies or a burger king with 50% on the tax payer!
Feeding poor kids though? That's not the Tory way, how dare you entertain such an insane notion.
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Yep, and spread the virus around into the bargain.
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Eat out to help out got everyone going out spreading covid
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level playing field they said giraffe big time wrong and a put down
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Well done Rashford.

I would also like to see you challenge your many peers to contribute heavily financially to the futures of our children.
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15/01/2021 10:53:13 32 9
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Many peers? Do you mean footballers or just wealthy individuals, presumably the latter through a fair equitable tax system rather than a specific subset?
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15/01/2021 11:03:32 7 3
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I'm talking about elite level footballers. Rashford is one shining light out of huge pool of influencers. As a group, footballers haven't done themselves any favours during the course of this pandemic and on the whole continuously fail to recognize their importance as role models.
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Except in most exceptional circumstances, I object most strongly to my taxes being used to pay for other peoples children to be fed. If you can't afford to have children don't have them.

Can't feed - don't breed!
What a selfish, sad excuse for a human being. You haven’t got a clue! Removed
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15/01/2021 10:58:03 39 56
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So who's going to do the work to create the real wealth that will be needed to keep you in Sanatogen and nappies in your dotage?

Starving children now not likely to enable them to become the motivated and productive workers we will need in the future.
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15/01/2021 10:59:28 39 26
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Spot on.
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Bang on
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Selfish
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15/01/2021 11:11:27 32 36
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Without the next generation of workers... who’s going to pay for your pension?
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15/01/2021 11:19:46 33 34
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So we punish the children for their parents lack of self control is that it?

I object to people who drive large cars adding to global warming, should we cut their pensions?
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15/01/2021 11:26:30 40 33
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My my, selfish, callous and judgemental. How unpleasant. I suspect you probably object to your taxes being used on anyone but yourself. That's not how it works.
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Really? Just let them starve then.
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People like you drag down this country with your bitterness. I bet you call yourself a good Christian too. Horrible person
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xlr
15/01/2021 11:44:19 9 5
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In that case I don't want to pay for vaccines for old people. If you didn't save up a pension, why should I pay for you?
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15/01/2021 11:46:39 6 6
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Other people's children will pay towards our pensions - our individual contributions are never enough. And you don't own, nor pick & choose the use of your taxes - they are the price we pay for the common good and cohesiveness of our society - the thing we are all all born into and which binds us as a Nation.
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If people don't breed where 's the next generation of taxpayers coming from to pay you pension?
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15/01/2021 11:51:46 14 7
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Rashford must be pretty well off. Is he contributing anything apart from high-handed demands?
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Ed
15/01/2021 11:56:32 7 6
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Yeah! Taxes should only be used for important things, like never ending wars in the Middle East and giving Tory peers backhanders!
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15/01/2021 11:57:01 6 3
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Maybe just maybe their jobs have disappeared during this pandemic
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Wow!
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15/01/2021 11:46:47 5 6
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you get rewarded for breeding in UK by payments
15/01/2021 12:01:28 2 0
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I see your point. Lots of example of people being asset rich (modern house, appliances, mobile etc) but no cash liquidity.
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15/01/2021 12:19:52 3 3
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With you 100 %
15/01/2021 12:06:41 6 4
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it should be like, if you man and woman not prepared to take any job to keep a roof and plan to feed your kids dont have kids, if you have them for pleasure go get a job, do not use children as weapons against hardworking tax payers and government to demand more and more free money, scroungers in one word, stop the benefits and they will know the hardship of day at work
15/01/2021 12:29:38 2 4
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Thanks for your input Mr Hitler.
15/01/2021 12:29:39 1 4
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Object away you little survivalist you.
15/01/2021 12:34:17 4 1
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We do not require a massively growing population.
Most of the growth is among poorer / migrant families. It,s fair enough. They’ve come to a safe country. But it causes its own problems.
It will help global warming if we can keep population at current levels.
More jobs are being mechanised, less people are needed.
Apart from the short term, people are living longer.
15/01/2021 12:46:06 1 4
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What about rape? What about people who have been abused by their partner into having children? What about families who have broken apart by divorce, adultery or death? What about families where one parent lost their job (that happens you know at no fault of your own)? What about the fact we guilt trip women when they don't have children so many have children despite actually not wanting them?
15/01/2021 13:00:17 1 3
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Pathetic selfish comment I bet you voted leave
15/01/2021 13:08:54 2 3
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Do you sociopathic Tories really expect us to believe you pay taxes.
15/01/2021 13:13:15 2 3
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I strongly object my taxes being given to Tory cronies and donors who have plenty of money but thats what is happening - do you object to that more than to giving it to people who have lost their jobs or get paid poorly to the profit others?
15/01/2021 13:27:00 2 1
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Whilst I can see your logic to a degree, most western societies favour and subsidise families, it is just they way it is. Probably too much child allowance goes to those who don’t need it and not enough to those that do.
15/01/2021 13:52:22 1 3
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You have not thought this through.

20% of the UK are in poverty - and it is "in work poverty".

The bottom 20% are critical for the UK to function, as they do the jobs many people just will not do.

If they don't have children, then once they die, or retire, then the bottom 20% are removed from working society.

Assume 1/3 of 20% is adults.

This means 4.3million immigrants to replace them.
15/01/2021 13:56:10 1 3
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My point is, the bottom 20% are critical to the UK, and they are in forced servitude through the benefits system, and zero hours contracts etc.

When people are born into a poverty based family, there is NO route out of it.

The heartless comments here on the forum just shows how people are very spiteful, ignorant, and highly selfish.
15/01/2021 14:15:01 1 1
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I have a Modest Proposal.

Let's slice 50% of these impoverished children into packaged ham and feed them to the other 50%. Hunger is eliminated, the excess poor-person biomass is reduced, and it's at no inconvenience to you. That rare win-win-win!
15/01/2021 14:31:19 1 2
bbc
Whatever your issue with parents is doesn't hide the fact it is not the childrens fault

You are nothing but a selfish fool
15/01/2021 14:31:36 1 3
bbc
Spoken like a true Tory.
15/01/2021 14:48:17 2 2
bbc
I object most strongly to my taxes being used to pay for other peoples children to be fed.

You tell 'em Echtdampfer. If kids have to suffer to teach their parents a lesson then that's fine isn't it. Perhaps children will be a bit more thoughtful before deciding to be born and maybe they will do the research on their parents before selecting them.
15/01/2021 14:50:00 2 3
bbc
Apart from the fact you are a vile, selfish scrot you have missed the point. The only children who get these packages are those that normally would have free school meals at the cost of the tax payer. Do you normally object to that. In many cases the only hot meal of the day. The article is highlighting the poor quality/quantity of food being offered. This is penny pinching from the Tories again.
SJ
15/01/2021 16:27:26 2 1
bbc
So punish the parents. Take the cost of school meals out of their future pensions.
But don't punish the children. That's just nasty.
On the day Rashford reveals he was taught to cheat to get penalties. Removed
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15/01/2021 10:53:22 10 10
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The way I see it, food is cheaper relative to wages than it's ever been.

The underlying problem is the way high housing costs (due to failure to build the extra houses to accommodate the needs of the population) coupled with not leaving people with a living before you tax them means that especially the lowest paid haven't got enough money left for essentials.
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MVP
15/01/2021 10:53:25 14 19
bbc
It is a sad day when it takes for a footballer to shame the government into feeding starving children in this country
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bds
15/01/2021 10:55:08 9 9
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For the second time!!
63
15/01/2021 10:58:39 4 2
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The government don't feed the kids. We do through our taxes. If you can't support your own kids, you should not be having them.
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15/01/2021 11:01:17 0 2
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It will be a happy day when super-rich footballers pay all their tax instead of hiding money away in elaborate tax schemes abroad.
Good idea vouchers instead of food boxes. Makes it easier to purchase cigs and scratch cards. Removed
Idiot, you can only use vouchers to buy food. Removed
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15/01/2021 10:57:04 3 1
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Avondale47
Don't you believe it! there are many ways that vouchers can be exchanged for none food items
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15/01/2021 10:59:07 2 0
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You can't use vouchers to buy alcohol, tobacco, lottery tickets and fuel, however it doesn't mean you're using them for nutritious children's meals.

Also you could spend these towards your weekly shopping and then have more to spend on booze and cigs... Am sure this doesn't happen though! I mean what parent supposidly struggling on food bill would spend money on smoking and booze.......
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15/01/2021 10:49:32 55 24
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Well done Rashford.

I would also like to see you challenge your many peers to contribute heavily financially to the futures of our children.
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15/01/2021 10:53:34 13 3
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Fair enough, but why single out footballers. What about the elite in politics and finance, not to mention multinational corporations, who are many times more duplicitous.
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15/01/2021 10:53:39 6 9
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Well done to these multi millionaires
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15/01/2021 10:53:40 539 193
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Avondale47
How about the mums and dad's being responsible for their children,s welfare? Or is that asking too much. Yes there are families in need but no way to the extent that is being portrayed by the media. Yes I did raise my family without handouts beyond the family allowance.
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15/01/2021 11:01:08 201 301
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We are in exceptional circumstances at the moment... have a heart
And to the detriment of your education, I see. Removed
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15/01/2021 11:05:13 68 123
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Ah so the families should take responsibility for their job situation and it has nothing to do with the governments mismanagement of the pandemic, the lock down and the economy...

Wise up
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15/01/2021 11:05:57 55 45
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Not everyone is as fortunate as you, you know? Shall we look at making sure the kids go hungry before we begin with the prejudice against the poorer members of our society? Even if it is the case that hundreds and thousands of parents are to blame, shall we make sure the kids get fed? Is it a wise investment in making sure future generations don't spend their childhoods in constant hunger?
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15/01/2021 11:06:45 61 49
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Yes there are families in need but no way to the extent that is being portrayed by the media.

And what research are you basing this on?
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KRR
15/01/2021 11:08:12 43 58
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'How about the mums and dad's being responsible for their children,s welfare?'

They are, so they know when they need help.

'Yes there are families in need but no way to the extent that is being portrayed by the media'

Do please present your evidence.

'Yes I did raise my family without handouts beyond the family allowance.'

FA was a right. Poor families have fewer such rights now.
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15/01/2021 11:09:07 116 33
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Agree with Avondale. How about parents being responsible for their kids, I see in the TV articles, many got Super Fridge Freezers, iphones, Large TVs. We went without to make sure our children were fed well, now days it seems to be someone else's responsibility. I was amazed when a report said children we forgetting how to use a knife & fork now no school meals, how do they eat at home then?
How about fathers like Bojo taking some responsibility for their offspring? Removed
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Bob
15/01/2021 11:15:26 32 14
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Also, back in my day the majority of children went to school with a packed lunch that consisted of a cheese sandwich or a ham sandwich. Something basic like that.

What are people expecting in these food parcels such that cheese, bread, yoghurts, beans, fruit etc is no good? Chateaubriand for lunch, kids, don't forget to thank Marcus!
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15/01/2021 11:07:22 23 22
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the typical " i luv boris and i think trumps a good guy too" response..
can you people not understand ...
children
dont
chose
their
parents..
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15/01/2021 11:20:53 16 14
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"Yes there are families in need but no way to the extent that is being portrayed by the media."

How do you know that? What study are you basing this on?

More than a third of the UK’s poorest families have seen their already meagre incomes squeezed during the pandemic because they have had to spend more on food, gas and electricity, and home schooling. (Resolution Foundation research)
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15/01/2021 11:23:46 1 6
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I’d say how’s not the time to play Scrooge otherwise I agree with your sentiment.
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15/01/2021 11:25:22 12 19
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Usual nasty comments from nasty Tories,until your lot disappear our Great country will never move on
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15/01/2021 11:30:32 15 1
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How about reducing the subsidies to business who are paying minimum wage or less while they still pay executives big salaries and lots of dividends?
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15/01/2021 11:32:29 11 18
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Some parents have mental health issues. Do you you want children going hungry - they are defenseless you heartless, simpleton?
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15/01/2021 11:32:42 8 7
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I agree the media does create hype. However, having worked with kids who find themselves with parents who do not meet their responsibilities then I see things from the perspective of the child. Our PM is hardly a model parent yet he seems tremendously popular because people keep voting for him.
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CFM
15/01/2021 11:34:53 27 5
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There needs to be a debate where parent responsibility starts/ends. Where the government takes over. The problem with the Rashford campaign is free schools meals in term time totally fine but that's never enough. Extended it to the whole year? You do then have to ask is it the governments job to feed your child everyday? The fact is less parent responsibility leads to even less responsibility
519
15/01/2021 11:37:25 8 14
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Bully for you, but try some empathy - why do you assume everyone else's situation mirrors yours? Why do you imply that you KNOW the extent of families in need? What expertise do you have, and what evidence apart from hearsay, and perhaps the view from your own perspective, which is likely to be confined to your own experiences - hardly a wide enough statistical basis to support your assertions.
551
15/01/2021 11:17:21 9 2
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Why do we even need to provide free school meals? Is the income from a minimum wage or the welfare system too low for parents to feed their children properly? That is the question that needs to be answered not coming up with a better system for free meals.
623
15/01/2021 11:45:23 6 7
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Ever been in poverty?
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xlr
15/01/2021 11:46:12 5 6
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Part of the problem is that the Tories also think that £300 a month will pay rent, so working people on Universal Credit can't even pay for their kinds.
695
15/01/2021 11:50:41 5 3
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In the middle of a pandemic?
745
15/01/2021 11:54:27 9 2
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Governments have spent years doing everything for everyone... this is why no one takes responsibility for their own children any more, it’s simply a case of the governments giving to much, and making people think that they can pop kids out with impunity and not having to be responsible for it.
857
15/01/2021 12:01:50 4 6
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To be perfectly honest you're totally clueless. Get your head out of the Daily Mail and try looking for some actual data.
862
15/01/2021 11:43:55 1 3
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sooner UK gets away from expensive EU produce the better
921
15/01/2021 12:05:57 5 2
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We only have your word for that.. you sound more like a benefit scammer to me...
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JD
15/01/2021 12:09:11 4 3
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Surely the real question is why the relief being offered is directly feeding the children. History, such as that of the former Soviet Union, shows that once the state takes on the responsibility of raising children they "own" them. This usually ends up to the detriment of both the children and their parents. Give help to parents and offer advice. If we let this slide the children will not be ours.
nfn
15/01/2021 12:11:29 6 3
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Well put. About time parents woke up to the fact that they had the kids so they should look after them.
15/01/2021 12:13:52 5 6
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How do you know that when the child was born they were brought into poverty? You don’t. There are many reasons why free school meals are required, try to think outside of the Little Englander box!
15/01/2021 12:16:07 7 3
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Also reported today: A large number of children are at risk of becoming obese during lockdown ! . So why don’t the fat kids give half their food to the starving kids?.
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15/01/2021 10:49:57 19 26
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What a shocking state of affairs that this even needs to be raised. This government really are vile.
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15/01/2021 10:53:43 17 7
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Rubbish, Why is it the governments fault that humans are running out of control with no dense of responsibility.
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15/01/2021 10:55:48 3 3
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Dense? Mmmm think that's probably relevant to your argument
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15/01/2021 10:53:53 9 14
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Is this truly 'World beating' Britain?

Where the children our future prosperity depend upon are allowed to go hungry, while the spiteful, selfish, and petty minded sneer.

This Country is only going in one direction. Into bankruptcy with all its wealth robbed out.
Tosh, pandering to a nobody because he is the right colour. If you can't afford food for you own kids, you should not be having them. Removed
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15/01/2021 10:54:26 13 8
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Typical DM reader, things change in between having kids and the future for example a pandemic and recession
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15/01/2021 11:17:01 0 0
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I heard it said, not from the Daily Mail and before the pandemic, that 30% of UK children are 'born into poverty'. Presumably all those 200,000+ families didn't suddenly become 'poor' in the nine months after they conceived.
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15/01/2021 10:49:32 55 24
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Well done Rashford.

I would also like to see you challenge your many peers to contribute heavily financially to the futures of our children.
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15/01/2021 10:54:28 4 3
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Many of them already do but it goes unreported.
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15/01/2021 11:08:04 5 1
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Spot on. Juan Mata has his common goal foundation and there are lots of stories of footballers donating to their home towns, but I guess that doesnt fit OPs agenda
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15/01/2021 11:00:38 1 2
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Proof?
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15/01/2021 10:54:36 194 22
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I had to have free school meals in the 1970’s. Sometimes they were good other times they were awful. It was a case of take it or leave it. There was no choice of what you had.
There was no free meals in the holidays. Mothers just budgeted and allowed for them. Food as a percentage of wages and benefits was much more costlier than now.
bull. Removed
819
15/01/2021 11:59:30 3 14
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Most social benefits go to pay for OAPS, more people living longer = more money for rich old people
835
15/01/2021 12:00:11 2 15
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OK boomer.
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Trs
15/01/2021 12:02:14 0 10
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Rubbish.
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15/01/2021 12:04:08 19 1
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Spot on. I had to explain to my son how cheap it is to make really good sandwiches for yourself. He didn't believe me until I broke it down. Roll back to the 1970s and 80s - my mum's weekly shop consumed 30% of the average weekly wage. Today, my family food shop from Aldi costs around 10% of the average weekly figure. Those who spend more are exercising a choice.
15/01/2021 12:32:32 2 8
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Yeah and we had to get up a hour before we went to bed to go to work.
15/01/2021 13:07:04 1 6
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We're not in the 1970's any more. Keep up.
15/01/2021 13:08:06 6 4
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I also had free school meals in the 70s and 80s, I'm happy to pay for them for other people's kids too. Some children's parents die, some children's parents run out on them and won't contribute to their welfare (eh Boris?) Some children's parents are just rubbish, lose their jobs, get ill (long term) but in every case:

I don't want the kids to go hungry - it isn't their fault!
15/01/2021 14:21:31 1 3
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Well who'd have thought it the Tory Bot Propaganda Machine showing that it loves to own HYS to spread its disgusting hatred of the British people.

Tories are very frightened of Marcus for good reason & for their bots to fly in the face of public opinion is showing very poor judgement.

We are in dire economic straits with many thrown into financial hardship; all the Tory bots do is blame them!
15/01/2021 17:01:35 1 0
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You had the same meals as everyone else and yes they were crap and no choice, but at least you didn't have to pay for them as well.

In those days if you said you couldn't eat meat because you were a vegetarian, they'd either leave it off or tell you to leave it on the side of the plate. Faddy eaters (as they would have been labeled then) just had to live with it, or bring in something from home.
16/01/2021 11:59:38 0 0
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Yes, and that was SH*T. We can and should do better. If we cannot ensure that no child in the UK will go hungry then we should be ashamed. No ifs or buts or blame. Let's do the right thing.
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RJS
15/01/2021 10:51:35 225 65
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SIMPLES - have kids be prepared to pay for them!
Benefits should be for those in dire need through no fault of their own.
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15/01/2021 10:54:57 90 145
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How heartless, does your crystal ball enable you to forsee unemployment and illnes in 10 years time?
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Bob
15/01/2021 11:27:02 9 7
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Depending on the study you pick the average length of employment is 4-6 years. Totally foreseeable that you might come unstuck in a job. Nearly all of us get an illness too.

You can plan for these things by building up savings. But no one does. Better to buy the latest iPhone instead.
815
15/01/2021 11:59:10 5 3
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It is not heartless to believe that people should have some sense of responsibility.
920
15/01/2021 12:05:57 3 2
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But most of them aren't unemployed or ill! What about the lazy that refuse to work because they know they will have everything paid for by the taxpayer??
15/01/2021 12:12:43 3 3
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you pick specific examples to suit. RJS is broadly correct . Having children is a huge commitment to take on , not something to do on a whim hoping the rest of society will pay .
15/01/2021 12:18:42 2 2
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Easy, by expecting it. By never ever spending a penny more than needed. That means never paying for holidays, never eating out, sticking to basic value range foods. Then 'by magic' you have an account full of money. Saving is an attitude not for a purpose aimed at spending it away. I am only spending anything now I am within a decade or so of death.
15/01/2021 13:41:33 0 1
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Indeed - but for the grace of [insert deity] go I
15/01/2021 17:11:37 1 0
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You don't foresee it. You assume it will happen and make provision for it. If by good fortune it's not needed then you can have the odd treat! That why the real poor of earlier years always feared debt and knew that if they needed loans and credit in a hurry, they were unlikely to get them.
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15/01/2021 10:55:03 18 10
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All 'celebs' need publicity to survive. Most are single band wagon merchants without a clue about peripheral issues to their pronouncements. In this case for example, cost and waste.
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15/01/2021 10:57:47 10 8
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“Most are single band wagon merchants without a clue about peripheral issues to their pronouncements.”

You mean like Tim Martin, the owner of a dingy and downmarket pub chain who seemed quite willing to ram his supported cause down our throats.
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MVP
15/01/2021 10:53:25 14 19
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It is a sad day when it takes for a footballer to shame the government into feeding starving children in this country
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bds
15/01/2021 10:55:08 9 9
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For the second time!!
Noted the TV news clip of the complaining mum taking food from the American-style fridge in her trendy modern kitchen!

Always two sides to a story. Of course we should support kids who don't have enough good food but how much of the effort and cost is well targetted?

Has anyone investigated the ownership of the scumbag company dishing out the dreadful hampers? Any political connections?
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15/01/2021 10:55:10 85 7
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Chartwells, part of Compass Group, were given the contract to supply emergency packages to families who would usually rely on free school meals as children were forced to learn from home.

The group’s former chairman, Paul Walsh, was once a member of David Cameron’s business advisory group and a Conservative Party donor.
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15/01/2021 11:04:21 8 5
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Thanks and there you go! How did I guess?
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15/01/2021 11:06:17 5 6
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So what? I was a Boy Scout.
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15/01/2021 11:04:14 4 4
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So virtually no connection then.
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15/01/2021 11:25:56 7 2
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There’s a surprise. Tory donor takes £30 to deliver £5 of food. Another take £500 a pop to deliver £300 laptops. Let’s not even mention what track and trace providers are creaming.
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15/01/2021 11:33:01 3 0
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And one of Marcus Rashford's partner organisations - should have got it right first time
454
15/01/2021 11:33:06 1 0
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And so?
ToryBrexit government corruption. These people are scumbags and shysters Removed
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15/01/2021 11:47:13 0 1
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Say no more.
888
15/01/2021 11:46:15 1 1
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Yes former chairman. So what is your point?
15/01/2021 12:27:23 0 1
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Ah, that's where the money goes, same old 'Wheel of Fortune'.
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15/01/2021 10:55:12 12 11
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Who put the ball in the Government's net? Go go go Marcus Rashford and shame the tin eared incompetents into doing the right thing again.
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15/01/2021 10:55:26 10 18
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Vouchers are a better idea. Just make them so they can only be redeemed against food purchases. To issue doggy bags of bananas, apples, and tins of beans is insulting. But it is what we have come to expect from this vile government.
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15/01/2021 10:59:17 8 4
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The government did not issue them. The company which did has been profiteering and should be held to account.
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RJS
15/01/2021 10:51:35 225 65
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SIMPLES - have kids be prepared to pay for them!
Benefits should be for those in dire need through no fault of their own.
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15/01/2021 10:55:40 20 15
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Spot on. A refreshing change to hear sense spoken.
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W 6
15/01/2021 10:55:40 8 9
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Marcus Rashford is providing a more effective opposition than the Brylcreem Man and the rest of the Labour Party.

Thing is, in the long term there needs to be an effective strategy to prevent folks relying on free school meals, whether that be via education or other means. For the time being this is fine, but we should aspire for better.
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15/01/2021 10:53:43 17 7
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Rubbish, Why is it the governments fault that humans are running out of control with no dense of responsibility.
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15/01/2021 10:55:48 3 3
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Dense? Mmmm think that's probably relevant to your argument
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15/01/2021 10:48:57 81 24
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All those demanding we cut foreign aid so we “look after our own” should be coming out supporting these demands. Anything else is double standards.
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15/01/2021 10:55:54 71 36
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Having spent over 22 billion and counting on a completely useless test and trace system, surely we can afford both?
948
15/01/2021 12:07:32 9 3
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The latest data on the test and trace system does not back up the idea of its being 'completely useless'.
15/01/2021 12:04:27 5 2
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Are you an expert on this?
15/01/2021 15:24:00 2 3
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The companies behind these abysmal meals are Tory party donors.
Chums in all sectors seeking to cash in on the pandemic
16/01/2021 23:12:00 0 0
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We certainly can't afford Dido of Carnage and the rest of the chumocracy. How much did Liz Truss' nephew cost the taxpayer by procuring useless PPE?
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15/01/2021 10:55:58 324 64
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Some of the pictures of food parcels are clearly not showing enough food.

But that said Beans on Toast followed by an apple is an acceptable meal for a child in my opinion!!
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15/01/2021 11:19:40 143 57
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Thats food for the week though. One tin of beans wont last a week, and your being disingenuous if you think it will
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Bob
15/01/2021 11:20:44 49 9
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And some of them have been proven fake with people taking photos of just a few of the things they received - not all of them. But the media ran with it anyway without fact checking. Nothing changes there.

But yes - even with the misleading photos, what is wrong with a cheese sandwich? That's what I and many other kids had for school lunch provided by our hard working parents, not the tax payer.
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15/01/2021 11:22:57 41 2
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Some of the news report on TV claimed that the amount of food supplied was for a family, whereas, as I understand it , this was provided to feed one child for 5 lunches. Although admittedly cost of food would have been far less than the stated value. Also: beans on toast + apple was standard child lunch in my youth, and not in a particularly poor household.
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15/01/2021 11:32:32 14 19
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So you are happy that a company paying thousands to the tory party can get away with a £5 parcel but get paid £15?
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xlr
15/01/2021 11:37:30 14 17
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Nothing quite says Tory like a measly £10 of food to last a week with £30 charged to the taxpayer by one of their buddy owned private companies.
548
15/01/2021 11:40:01 6 17
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Says a lot about both yourself and your opinion.
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15/01/2021 11:40:54 5 1
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The school meals pre Covid were put together on economy of scale. So it should be no surprise that if simply divide the money they are allocated by number of pupils you do not get as good deal.
If parents put the child’s allowance with their budget for a family meal it will probably go further.
Some families being presented with food that requires some preparation may cause them concern.
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15/01/2021 11:45:47 4 0
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I'd suggest the parents also ask the children what they used to get at school, in my experience school dinners for primary school children were very small, probably a quarter of a can of beans (1 spoonful), a sausage and 2-3 pieces of potato followed by an apple.
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Trs
15/01/2021 11:58:57 3 7
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1 tin of beans for a week? You try it.
876
15/01/2021 11:44:26 2 5
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its for one week...acceptable?
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15/01/2021 12:03:18 9 0
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The problem is some parents don't know how to prepare a meal from constituent ingredients. I doubt some have peeled and prepared a potato and rely on convenience food and ready meals which by there nature are more expensive.
Bringing back home economics into schools would be a start to teach children how to cook - they could maybe then educate their parents
15/01/2021 12:27:45 2 5
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Surely a bowl of gruel should be enough Mr Scrooge.
15/01/2021 12:29:22 1 0
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Lucky them !!!
15/01/2021 12:40:52 0 4
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not exactly nutritious though is it?
15/01/2021 13:38:36 3 0
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Luxury - when I were a lad, we 'ad a bag of cold gravel to last us the week
Jim
15/01/2021 14:16:39 3 0
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Wonder where they got their figures from - £30 a week vouchers / food box???

When feeling lazy a daily meal deal from Tesco costs me £15 per week (Large sandwich, drink and snack). Normally a home made lunch would cost far less
15/01/2021 20:44:30 0 0
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Food For a week!
Good idea vouchers instead of food boxes. Makes it easier to purchase cigs and scratch cards. Removed
49
15/01/2021 10:56:05 3 0
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Perhaps the thing might be to have vouchers that can only be used at food banks.
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RJS
15/01/2021 10:51:35 225 65
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SIMPLES - have kids be prepared to pay for them!
Benefits should be for those in dire need through no fault of their own.
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15/01/2021 10:56:16 22 19
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A very sad comment, during such exceptional circumstances. Is this the type of attitude we want to live within?
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15/01/2021 10:58:41 24 17
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Yes. Far too many people make a living out of having kids
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15/01/2021 10:48:09 11 28
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If we all paid a tiny bit more tax it would cover this.
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15/01/2021 10:56:45 9 3
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We pay enough. Almost 50% in direct taxation in some cases. That's not fair.
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15/01/2021 11:02:32 3 6
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Awww diddums.

My heart bleeds for you.

Your user name is unironic.
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15/01/2021 11:15:22 1 5
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We clearly don't when we can't afford to look after hungry kids
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15/01/2021 10:49:57 19 26
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What a shocking state of affairs that this even needs to be raised. This government really are vile.
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15/01/2021 10:56:56 5 1
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They are - but don't don't take every story at face value either. There's a far bigger problem with obesity than hunger in this country. The cost of a McD 'treat' would feed a child properly for a week. It's FAR more complex than a headline (or millionaire footballer) suggests.
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15/01/2021 10:51:16 89 15
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I would be interested to see what amount of taxes Marcus Rashford and these top Chefs pay to HMRC.......It is the working/middle class that pay for everything in this Country. I agree more should be done for free school meals, but these people need to contribute fairly as well and at present they dont due to tax avoidance schemes...hypocritical all of them!!!!!
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15/01/2021 10:59:29 31 4
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I sure there are plenty of others who say nothing and keep their head down,who the HMRC would be more than interested in... perhaps target them instead?
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Sam
15/01/2021 11:46:09 2 0
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Evidence for this statement. You seem to be projecting your ideas on to others.
He doesn't need to pay as much because he buys up houses stopping genuine people from buying them and then rents them out to people and takes the smaller hit on that instead.

He said he does that to "protect his family's income".
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15/01/2021 11:54:00 1 0
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drugs dealers avoid HMRC all together
15/01/2021 12:10:53 5 0
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I believe that Rashford has also pumped quite a bit of his own money into supporting families, and I do admire him for that. But some of the arguments around this "school lunches" debate are way over the top
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15/01/2021 13:31:56 2 3
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I think you'll find that you can easily identify all tax dodgers - they all vote Tory.
15/01/2021 13:42:40 2 0
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I suspect they pay more in tax than you
Idiot, you can only use vouchers to buy food. Removed
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15/01/2021 10:57:04 3 1
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Avondale47
Don't you believe it! there are many ways that vouchers can be exchanged for none food items
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15/01/2021 10:50:20 284 61
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There's a lot more that can be done in educating parents in budgeting and cooking before we swell the bloated Social Services budget further.
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15/01/2021 10:57:11 91 143
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It takes money to make a budget, my friend.
People who call people they don't know 'my friend' while disagreeing with them make my flesh creep! Removed
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15/01/2021 11:03:44 13 3
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No 'Benefits' then?
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15/01/2021 11:57:55 2 2
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It also takes some forethought and a sense of personal responsibility.
nfn
15/01/2021 12:19:13 1 2
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Well they should go out and earn money then.
15/01/2021 13:11:12 1 1
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well just budget on smoking /drinking ,sky tv ,flat screen tvs, holidays
15/01/2021 13:28:52 1 1
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There is money just use in properly
Jim
15/01/2021 14:17:32 1 1
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These parents do have money!
15/01/2021 16:03:39 1 0
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This is why people who do not work get given money in the form of benefits.
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15/01/2021 10:57:20 242 24
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If premiership footballers who earn millions and companies who earn billions paid more tax (why should someone earning £200,000 a week pay the same rate as someone eaning £200,000 a year, they can afford more) then there would be more to help those less fortunate

We need extra tax bands for the highest earners and to close loopholes for tax evading companies
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15/01/2021 11:00:01 122 5
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100% agree, we're meant to be closing the gap not widening it.
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15/01/2021 11:12:45 15 1
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Bet you if Boris introduced a 1970s style Labour tax plan ie 97% tax rate for high earning individuals (like Premier Footballers) specifically to pay for School Meals we would get a very different response.
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15/01/2021 11:18:17 3 14
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Ah look, a quitling carping from the sidelines. Someone actually makes an effort to improve the lives of poor children, and this one decides to bleat, whine and squeal about how much this do-gooder gets paid. Typical really, what a shame.
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Sam
15/01/2021 11:40:57 4 11
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Why pick on footballers? They didn't set the tax rate.
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Sam
15/01/2021 11:48:53 23 0
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I'd maybe respect Rashford a bit more if instead of demanding that more of other peoples hard earned taxes get spent on school meals, he maybe took some of the £1-2M he earns a month and used that rather than pumping his money through off shore locations so he doesn't have to contribute.
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15/01/2021 11:54:39 1 1
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Too true blue
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15/01/2021 11:58:05 2 2
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Yeah but that’s dangerous Marxism talking.
Can’t have any kind of equality otherwise Tory donors will not be happy
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15/01/2021 11:47:13 1 6
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politicians avoid tax mainly conservative ones
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15/01/2021 11:51:20 1 2
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Tax earners more, so others don't have to work ever.
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15/01/2021 12:09:42 2 0
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But the £200k per week person would pay 52 times more tax than the £200k per annum person...is that not enough for you. Wealth creators would otherwise be disincentivised . Think about it .
15/01/2021 12:11:01 3 2
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Not this again. If you tax a rich person at 80%, 90% (as per Labour at the end of the 1970s), then all their riches will get taken by the tax and the end result for them is that they will only be moderately wealthy, or as wealthy (seemingly) as you or I. So then why would they bother? They could work in a supermarket instead. Or leave the country. Why would they then continue to bother?
15/01/2021 12:26:22 6 1
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I agree. I accept that Marcus Rashford is helping people. I also hear that he is negotiating a new contract. He is on over £200,000 a week. How much of the new salary will go to help poor people?
15/01/2021 12:31:44 0 0
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Now that sounds like a job for a government.
15/01/2021 12:36:10 1 0
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Rubbish!
15/01/2021 12:45:07 1 1
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you forget that the rich people have manipulated middle classes into thinking poor people are the problem. :/ people say "Of course Jeff Bezos doesn't pay tax why should he?" in the same breath with "If you can't afford your kids don't have them."
15/01/2021 12:59:21 2 0
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Interesting, so what you're implying there lynchy is that Marcus himself is actually part of the problem rather than the solution.
15/01/2021 13:02:54 0 1
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Because RATE means PERCENTAGE not AMOUNT.

What's this got to do with the food parcel that cost taxpayers £30 containing £3.50's worth of food, and the most vulnerable kids going hungry - in the year 2021, in one of the richest economies of the world?

100s of victim-blaming posts. How sad. Was it like that in WW2? My house was bombed => that's your fault, you should live in a country manor...
15/01/2021 13:14:21 2 0
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And tax avoiding individuals. I wonder if people really understand it is taxpayer funded. The government does not have its own money. The rich want the just about managing to subsidise those worse off.
15/01/2021 14:07:45 0 2
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What we need to do is to abolish our tax havens, but that's never going to happen under a Tory government.

The EU Anti Tax Avoidance Directive would have forced the government to abolish our tax havens, which is why Johnson, Cummings et al. manipulated so many people into voting for Brexit.

Brexit's nothing to do with sovereignty and everything to do with the rich carrying on not paying tax.
15/01/2021 14:31:25 1 1
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"tax evading companies" - they're illegal an will be prosecuted.

I think you probably refer to tax AVOIDANCE, which is perfectly legal, and arises because of the the legislation passed by successive generations of MPs. Blame Parliament if you don't like it.
15/01/2021 14:50:10 1 0
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presumably you think you deserve a tax cut?
15/01/2021 16:19:46 1 0
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Oh, the politics of ENVY!
15/01/2021 20:13:35 0 0
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Someone earning £200k a week is paying close on £100k a week in tax. How much do you pay a week in tax? The rich pay their way, the problem is there are too many people who don't earn or dont have the skills for a decent job and pay nowt & just take. And you are saying the people who who pay £100k a week tax are the bad guys/gals in this equation? Think you need to recalibrate your logic pal!
16/01/2021 08:02:38 0 0
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That was tried in the 60s/70s (80+% tax bands). It resulted in money leaving the country as the wealthy/high earners left or shifted their money elsewhere.
16/01/2021 11:51:06 0 0
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Totally agree that all should pay their taxes. But why focus your ire at footballers?
Why not focus on the businesses that the gov allows to evade tax or the super-rich who apparently make no money (and therefore pay no tax). Also why was there so little outrage at a certain Lewis Hamilton (tax avoider supreme) being given a honour? Feeding a few kids when they are hungry should be a moral duty!
16/01/2021 17:04:54 0 0
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Tell that to the Tory tax dodgers.
Noted the TV news clip of the complaining mum taking food from the American-style fridge in her trendy modern kitchen!

Always two sides to a story. Of course we should support kids who don't have enough good food but how much of the effort and cost is well targetted?

Has anyone investigated the ownership of the scumbag company dishing out the dreadful hampers? Any political connections?
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15/01/2021 10:57:45 24 5
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I noticed that too. I'd love one of those fridges but could never afford it (I spent the money on feeding my own kids)
The story was then repeated on our local news, but this time the "struggling mum" was shown in close up taking the items out of the parcel. So you could not miss the fact that she had freshly applied fake gel nails (bright blue) and tattoos on both wrists (what did they cost?)
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15/01/2021 11:04:54 14 0
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Some people have a strange set of priorities.
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15/01/2021 11:08:22 15 9
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These purchases could have been pre-Covid, so poverty might not have been an issue for the family then. But good to read the lack of sympathy for these families.
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Gio
15/01/2021 11:42:12 0 1
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Get a better job, or work harder, longer hours. You fed your own kids, what a hero you are, I'm truly impressed.
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15/01/2021 10:55:03 18 10
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All 'celebs' need publicity to survive. Most are single band wagon merchants without a clue about peripheral issues to their pronouncements. In this case for example, cost and waste.
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15/01/2021 10:57:47 10 8
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“Most are single band wagon merchants without a clue about peripheral issues to their pronouncements.”

You mean like Tim Martin, the owner of a dingy and downmarket pub chain who seemed quite willing to ram his supported cause down our throats.
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15/01/2021 11:10:35 0 0
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Good to see how much he's lost recently (£170M?). Unfortunately his staff are the ones struggling.
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15/01/2021 10:53:17 374 131
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Except in most exceptional circumstances, I object most strongly to my taxes being used to pay for other peoples children to be fed. If you can't afford to have children don't have them.

Can't feed - don't breed!
What a selfish, sad excuse for a human being. You haven’t got a clue! Removed
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15/01/2021 11:01:23 6 3
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How do you know he hasnt
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15/01/2021 10:53:17 374 131
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Except in most exceptional circumstances, I object most strongly to my taxes being used to pay for other peoples children to be fed. If you can't afford to have children don't have them.

Can't feed - don't breed!
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15/01/2021 10:58:03 39 56
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So who's going to do the work to create the real wealth that will be needed to keep you in Sanatogen and nappies in your dotage?

Starving children now not likely to enable them to become the motivated and productive workers we will need in the future.
15/01/2021 13:40:38 4 2
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Except the “ starving “ children will grow up as feckless as the parents that conceived them and just take, take, take from the state
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KRR
15/01/2021 10:58:09 8 6
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Good that Rashford plays for a moneybags team and not East Fife or Doncaster Rovers; the Premiership-obsessed BBC would have ignored him then.

Poverty must be targeted at root, yes (though who believes a Government with Eton snob Bonzo and vile hater of his supposed inferiors Rees-Mogg cares about poverty?) but the meals programme is a short term essential.
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15/01/2021 10:58:39 236 69
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It seems the left have decided that parents are not responsible for feeding their children anymore, despite one of the most generous social systems in the world.

BBC News again latching onto and promoting news items with glee, as it seeks to usher in the augmented Nanny State it so craves.
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15/01/2021 11:00:47 124 34
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Spot on.
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15/01/2021 11:02:52 23 12
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Totally agree, this story ticks so many of the BBC’s boxes they, along with their dream catcher, incense burning audience, must be positively wetting themselves with glee
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15/01/2021 11:03:58 18 16
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Do some research followed by some thinking; you're making yourself sound silly.
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15/01/2021 11:04:29 16 13
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We are in a pandemic and people are losing their jobs, you sociopath.
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KRR
15/01/2021 11:11:38 12 13
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'It seems the left have decided that parents are not responsible for feeding their children anymore'

It only seems like that to rather disordered imaginations.

'BBC News again latching onto and promoting news items with glee'

How dare a news organisation report news you don't like!

'it seeks to usher in the augmented Nanny State'

Fascinated - how will the BBC do that?
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15/01/2021 11:40:26 11 7
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It is the mission of the left to make people dependent on the state in as many ways as possible. This way they can exercise the fullest control over their lives and those at the top can cream off all the advantages. Remember the Soviet Union? Look at N Korea..... Too far left is just as dangerous (and essentially the same as) too far right.
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15/01/2021 11:44:01 14 6
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The left never take responsibility for anything
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15/01/2021 11:53:03 3 5
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It seems the left have decided that parents are not responsible for feeding their children anymore, despite one of the most generous social systems in the world.

Yes, make the children suffer for their parents inability to feed them. Didn't Jesus say something about children suffering. About time they thought a bit harder about whether to be born and spend more time choosing their parents.
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15/01/2021 11:53:46 3 5
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Your opinion reeks of Orwellian propaganda to me!
Perhaps a follower of Qanon
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15/01/2021 12:00:37 3 2
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Generous? Compared to which advanced country? The states where most live in tents?

We have one of the lowest pensions in Europe.

How about Amazon pay some tax or would you rather the poor went without!
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15/01/2021 11:49:27 4 0
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Britain gives millions in aid money to africa which gets given to corrupt regimes ......why not why not feed British children
15/01/2021 12:14:39 2 3
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You consider that we are not already living in a nanny state? We have been since 1945.
15/01/2021 12:40:11 4 2
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It seems the right want to starve children whilst they profit from it.
15/01/2021 13:27:47 2 2
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It seems that the right-wingers have decided that giving tax-payers money to their family and friends is a priority , as much as possible, under the pretence of feeding the poorest in the country or helping the NHS - the Tories are parasites feeding off this country's poorest
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MVP
15/01/2021 10:53:25 14 19
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It is a sad day when it takes for a footballer to shame the government into feeding starving children in this country
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15/01/2021 10:58:39 4 2
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The government don't feed the kids. We do through our taxes. If you can't support your own kids, you should not be having them.
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15/01/2021 10:56:16 22 19
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A very sad comment, during such exceptional circumstances. Is this the type of attitude we want to live within?
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15/01/2021 10:58:41 24 17
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Yes. Far too many people make a living out of having kids
15/01/2021 13:07:33 0 1
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None at all do. As you know, because you can find the internet and know how to find out what benefits pay and their upper limit.

Your oft-repeated lie is no better than the National Front's rhetoric. Do you subscribe to that, too?
Serious question, and don’t get me wrong I love Marcus Rashford. But whilst he was starving as a kid where was his dad? Removed
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15/01/2021 11:01:08 27 6
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He Left his wife alone with five children to raise them on her own
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15/01/2021 11:27:33 13 1
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Yet Marcus Rashford, despite being a powerful role model for young men, has not told them to step up and take responsibility.
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15/01/2021 11:13:37 2 9
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Is it important?
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15/01/2021 10:59:03 9 4
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Shouldn’t the focus be on the supplier of these food parcels? If they don’t provide the quality of service use others that will. Please take out the politics rashford and use your well meaning energy on shaming the current suppliers and get change this way. Schools did provide food vouchers but it was abused. So parents need to be made accountable too.
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15/01/2021 11:02:58 4 7
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They provided what Johnson told them to. This is where deflection fails by this sly pm. Starmer destroyed him again
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15/01/2021 11:13:12 0 3
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The suppliers were government cronies.
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15/01/2021 10:52:59 21 17
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The eat out to help out scheme was fine, go outside everyone! Buy a maccies or a burger king with 50% on the tax payer!
Feeding poor kids though? That's not the Tory way, how dare you entertain such an insane notion.
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15/01/2021 10:59:06 7 4
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Yep, and spread the virus around into the bargain.
Idiot, you can only use vouchers to buy food. Removed
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15/01/2021 10:59:07 2 0
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You can't use vouchers to buy alcohol, tobacco, lottery tickets and fuel, however it doesn't mean you're using them for nutritious children's meals.

Also you could spend these towards your weekly shopping and then have more to spend on booze and cigs... Am sure this doesn't happen though! I mean what parent supposidly struggling on food bill would spend money on smoking and booze.......
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15/01/2021 10:55:26 10 18
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Vouchers are a better idea. Just make them so they can only be redeemed against food purchases. To issue doggy bags of bananas, apples, and tins of beans is insulting. But it is what we have come to expect from this vile government.
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15/01/2021 10:59:17 8 4
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The government did not issue them. The company which did has been profiteering and should be held to account.
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15/01/2021 11:07:09 1 2
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Who allowed them to profit instead of having a fixed rate contract? Doh!!!!
Can't they send them some of JRM's 'happy' British fish now - especially as the fishermen can't export them to their European markets (told you so!). Removed
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15/01/2021 10:59:20 8 13
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I'm sooo hoping that Marcus turns his not inconsiderable abilities and talents towards a campaign to get young people voting in the largest numbers possible. Could get and keep the Tories out for a generation.
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RJS
15/01/2021 10:51:35 225 65
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SIMPLES - have kids be prepared to pay for them!
Benefits should be for those in dire need through no fault of their own.
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15/01/2021 10:59:28 16 14
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Simples ? Maybe you are.

You are definitely Captain Hindsight.

Did you see the pandemic coming ?

No, me neither.
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15/01/2021 10:53:17 374 131
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Except in most exceptional circumstances, I object most strongly to my taxes being used to pay for other peoples children to be fed. If you can't afford to have children don't have them.

Can't feed - don't breed!
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15/01/2021 10:59:28 39 26
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Spot on.
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15/01/2021 10:51:16 89 15
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I would be interested to see what amount of taxes Marcus Rashford and these top Chefs pay to HMRC.......It is the working/middle class that pay for everything in this Country. I agree more should be done for free school meals, but these people need to contribute fairly as well and at present they dont due to tax avoidance schemes...hypocritical all of them!!!!!
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15/01/2021 10:59:29 31 4
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I sure there are plenty of others who say nothing and keep their head down,who the HMRC would be more than interested in... perhaps target them instead?
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15/01/2021 11:39:45 8 1
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Why "instead"? Why not "as well"? I get very tired of people defending these over-rich "celebrities" be they chefs, media presenters or sports persons and pointing fingers at nebulous "others". Tax avoidance schemes are not available to the majority of us - why should the over-paid be allowed to benefit from them?
16/01/2021 14:30:45 0 0
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Don't you mean as well??
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15/01/2021 10:52:59 21 17
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The eat out to help out scheme was fine, go outside everyone! Buy a maccies or a burger king with 50% on the tax payer!
Feeding poor kids though? That's not the Tory way, how dare you entertain such an insane notion.
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15/01/2021 10:59:38 1 1
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Eat out to help out got everyone going out spreading covid
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15/01/2021 10:59:39 221 44
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First things first: if you cannot afford to have children then do not have them. Secondly, the welfare system is out there to help people who have fallen on hard times, not a career choice.
In terms of the immediate issue with the taxpayer having to feed people's children then if the food parcels are not adequate then a food voucher should be issued. NO cash should be given.
It's short sighted creeps such as yourself who consistently fail to see the these children are a real asset that require investment to secure our economic future!

You also need to realize that poor people of necessity spend money back into the economy, thus maintaining demand and the flow of income, rather than stuff it in useless asset investments. The real bane of the UK economy for 40 years.
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15/01/2021 11:11:27 22 12
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I could afford to have children, then there was the global financial meltdown. 13 years later there was a pandemic. Lost my livelihood both times. Please try to think before curling down crass, ignorant comments.
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15/01/2021 11:58:52 8 3
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What if your career was taken away during the pandemic and you can’t work? We can’t all be lazy fishermen waiting for government handouts
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15/01/2021 12:37:47 1 3
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Yeah ! Why couldn't people have anticipated a pandemic and Brexit being mismanaged by a sociopathic corrupt bunch of feckless chancers leading to them losing their jobs.
Ever thought of donating your body to science so they can find out how you functioned without a heart - tomorrow would be good.
15/01/2021 12:47:55 0 2
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What about rape? What about people who have been abused by their partner into having children? What about families who have broken apart by divorce, adultery or death? What about families where one parent lost their job (that happens you know at no fault of your own)? What about the fact we guilt trip women when they don't have children so many have children despite actually not wanting them?
15/01/2021 13:17:30 0 1
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1. They are on low incomes, despite working. Easy to verify that most benefits are in-work benefits. Remember Working Tax Credits?

2. They do not exist, and the rules for out-of-work benefits are very clear and the santions are often applied very harshly to anyone not actively seeking or accepting work.

Your argument is totally invalid, as it berates a system that has never existed anywhere ever
Bob
15/01/2021 13:59:18 2 1
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There's a guy on Twitter who moaned about having to pay £15 to view behind-closed-doors football matches saying they already pay over £100 a month TV subscription.

They're now posting pictures and complaining about their food parcel.
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16/01/2021 11:56:42 0 0
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Have you a special gift that allows you to tell that people have had kids as a "career choice" and have not fallen on hard times? Of course you don't! You just have swallowed all the bullshit about the undeserving poor and have managed to feel "jealous" about their "special" treatment. Examine your conscience, this "let the children suffer" attitude is not moral.
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15/01/2021 10:59:53 9 8
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The quality of the food parcels I have seen is awefull
And we do indeed need a complete review of the entire welfare system
Why in one of the richest countries in the world we have starving children is both a reflection on our national and personal values.
Food vouchers were shunned because of stigma and abuse and increases in benefits don't seem to help. But are school meals 365 really the answer
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15/01/2021 11:01:38 5 3
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The quality is OK - Heniz & branded foods, its the amount thats wrong
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15/01/2021 10:50:20 284 61
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There's a lot more that can be done in educating parents in budgeting and cooking before we swell the bloated Social Services budget further.
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15/01/2021 10:59:54 20 19
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"I'm Alright Jack", said a red neck.
Good idea vouchers instead of food boxes. Makes it easier to purchase cigs and scratch cards. Removed
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15/01/2021 11:00:07 0 1
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Grow up
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15/01/2021 10:48:09 11 28
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If we all paid a tiny bit more tax it would cover this.
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15/01/2021 11:00:08 4 5
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Most of us pay enough tax already, it is higher end earners (such as premier league footballers) who should pay a bit more as they can earn it

Also if massive corperations were made to pay a higher share that they can easily afford then we would all be in a better situation, time to start closing the loopholes
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15/01/2021 11:00:27 6 10
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Like most issues these days, this seems to have been dragging on for ages.

There is one common denominator in it all. Boris and his Ministers are incapable of showing any leadership, to get on top of the issues. When are they going to stop passing the buck, blaming others, and they themselves get a grip?
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15/01/2021 11:47:19 1 2
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Can anyone really be surprised - they voted for this lot based on lies and refused to listen to common sense and wise words. All for the sake of the 'B' project, which is already damaging the fishermen who were it's keenest supporters!
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15/01/2021 11:00:35 5 2
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Maybe Rashford's next target could be hospital food.
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15/01/2021 11:03:56 3 5
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and prison food...

....and.....and....and....
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15/01/2021 11:07:05 2 0
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Hope your or your Family DONT GO TO HOPSITAL

I REALLY DO HOPE THEY DONT .......................right !!
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15/01/2021 11:00:41 16 14
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Anyone who wants kids should accurately predict their and their partner's future for 20 years, including relationship stability and job prospects in a pandemic. If they fail to do so, punish their kids.
No wonder this country is governed by a heartless group of millionaires if people really think like that..
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15/01/2021 11:16:54 9 1
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Me and my husband managed. We always were carful on expenditure. Meal plans for a month. Having insurance to pay the mortgage in an emergency. Making do with second hand things. Only having one child even though we would had liked another.

Being carful in the better times saw us through redundancies, disability and the unforeseen.
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15/01/2021 11:08:39 0 2
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If everyone did that, no one would have kids, ever! Who'd look after you then?
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15/01/2021 11:55:21 0 1
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Thank you Mystic Meg.
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Rob
15/01/2021 10:51:42 83 18
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This is very worthy, but it does evade the essential issue.

The trick here is to end POVERTY, not just food poverty. Families able to support themselves do not need to rely on unfriendly, bureaucratic, ham-fisted and tight-fisted government policies to feed their kids.

If we do not do this, then everything concerning living will always be a patchwork of neglect and partial support for them.
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15/01/2021 11:00:43 39 12
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Working people need to be paid more and taxed less
This will only result from increased efficiency and productivity in both the private and public sectors of the economy
15/01/2021 12:03:35 1 1
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Very simplistic view.
Cost of living would have to rise to pay higher wages and if business owners know you have more to spend then they will have it.
16/01/2021 23:10:27 0 0
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Orca government that taxes the rich appropriately, closes the tax dodgers loopholes and spends the vast additional income those measures will generate on public infrastructure, the NHS, free university education on merit, not accent or school and most of all on a real social welfare safety net that confers dignity, not humiliation.
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15/01/2021 11:00:45 71 17
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Go after the fathers who appear to not face their responsibility first.
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15/01/2021 11:05:30 11 6
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in the real world its not that easy is it
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15/01/2021 11:10:26 3 2
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Why just the fathers?
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15/01/2021 11:10:27 4 2
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Like Bojo?
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15/01/2021 11:13:16 6 1
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All kids requiring FSM have absent fathers? Please provide source for this fact, note Daily Mail isn't a trustworthy news source.
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15/01/2021 11:08:28 3 1
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and mothers...
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15/01/2021 11:23:30 2 1
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That's it, deflect from the issue and how much would that actually generate/save.

Well done to Marcus for what he has done and is doing for all kids and families.
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15/01/2021 11:24:11 3 2
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I think that's a subject that the PM will want to avoid.
15/01/2021 12:35:14 1 0
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You will find that the fathers have in some case been discarded at an early stage.
16/01/2021 17:12:46 0 0
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Why? We're the fathers all in the Tory cabinet not making the decision to lock down when all respectable scientific opinion was urging that course of action?
Because THAT is how we got here. Well, that and over a decade of welfare cuts before that...again all under the Brexi-tories.
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15/01/2021 10:58:39 236 69
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It seems the left have decided that parents are not responsible for feeding their children anymore, despite one of the most generous social systems in the world.

BBC News again latching onto and promoting news items with glee, as it seeks to usher in the augmented Nanny State it so craves.
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15/01/2021 11:00:47 124 34
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Spot on.
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15/01/2021 11:19:02 7 5
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well said Ted
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15/01/2021 11:01:03 9 6
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It would help if the same rich people campaigned to get the schools not just feeding childing BUT educating them to.
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15/01/2021 11:02:15 7 7
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yes it's very easy to spend tax payers' money and not one's own
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15/01/2021 11:22:42 0 0
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The government has closed schools to most children and there's now schemes/charities trying to get laptops to children being educated at home. We're nearly a year into this pandemic.
15/01/2021 15:44:45 0 0
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Especially spelling
Serious question, and don’t get me wrong I love Marcus Rashford. But whilst he was starving as a kid where was his dad? Removed
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15/01/2021 11:01:08 27 6
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He Left his wife alone with five children to raise them on her own
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15/01/2021 11:17:50 11 1
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I bet the CSA didn't bother going after him either.
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How about the mums and dad's being responsible for their children,s welfare? Or is that asking too much. Yes there are families in need but no way to the extent that is being portrayed by the media. Yes I did raise my family without handouts beyond the family allowance.
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We are in exceptional circumstances at the moment... have a heart
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15/01/2021 11:03:15 99 28
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Many parents have been useless for years. It's a structural problem.
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Tories Don't have hearts
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15/01/2021 11:39:29 9 8
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the rightwing - heart ?
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15/01/2021 11:46:51 17 5
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But once the situation improves, the government will find that it is impossible to draw back on providing free meals for children all year. It will become permanent as expectations are raised, fuelled by charities and celebrities who are seeking publicity.

The nanny state will have taken over another function which is really the responsibility of parents. The taxpayer will have another burden.
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15/01/2021 11:56:49 12 3
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I do not doubt that Marcus Rashford is a sincere young man, but the school meals issue is being exploited by publicity-seeking charities and celebrities. It is going to result in our nanny state permanently taking on another commitment - feeding children all year round - which should really be the responsibility of parents. It will also be another burden on the taxpayer.
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15/01/2021 11:57:42 1 2
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No chance. #stone
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15/01/2021 11:34:40 4 4
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war with national socialists and communist is exceptional circumstances

also they need to lose weight rather than complain about the high standards of FREE food
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15/01/2021 12:14:18 9 5
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Garbage. My parents raised 4 kid's on very little money. It was called pride, they refused to even ask for hand outs. We live in a take take take society now.
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15/01/2021 10:53:17 374 131
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Except in most exceptional circumstances, I object most strongly to my taxes being used to pay for other peoples children to be fed. If you can't afford to have children don't have them.

Can't feed - don't breed!
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15/01/2021 11:01:09 39 22
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Bang on
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15/01/2021 11:27:43 11 11
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Yes, they do, don't they, these jusgemental types?
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15/01/2021 10:53:25 14 19
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It is a sad day when it takes for a footballer to shame the government into feeding starving children in this country
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15/01/2021 11:01:17 0 2
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It will be a happy day when super-rich footballers pay all their tax instead of hiding money away in elaborate tax schemes abroad.
Tosh, pandering to a nobody because he is the right colour. If you can't afford food for you own kids, you should not be having them. Removed
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15/01/2021 11:01:22 1 1
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Racist
What a selfish, sad excuse for a human being. You haven’t got a clue! Removed
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15/01/2021 11:01:23 6 3
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How do you know he hasnt
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15/01/2021 11:28:59 8 4
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Abundantly clear from his/her* spiteful post.

* I suspect it's a him too.
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15/01/2021 11:01:31 11 12
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Every time we turn away (or every time rashford has an away game) Johnson goes back to his starve a kid strategy.

It’s indefensible to give money to his mates, pay cheap lip service and then revert back to his nasty tactics when no one is looking.

Now cue loads of far right shills blaming parents and accusing them of being smack rats or ungrateful beggars. Shameful
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15/01/2021 11:03:19 1 1
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Far right????????
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15/01/2021 11:14:16 0 0
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Some are, some aren't, so both sides of the argument will continue. Governments (especially this awful one) are very bad at targetting money where it's needed and justified.
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15/01/2021 11:15:42 0 0
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How are you a far right supporter if you are bored of the rhetoric of parents having children they cannot afford and expecting the taxpayer to pick up the tab?
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15/01/2021 10:59:53 9 8
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The quality of the food parcels I have seen is awefull
And we do indeed need a complete review of the entire welfare system
Why in one of the richest countries in the world we have starving children is both a reflection on our national and personal values.
Food vouchers were shunned because of stigma and abuse and increases in benefits don't seem to help. But are school meals 365 really the answer
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15/01/2021 11:01:38 5 3
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The quality is OK - Heniz & branded foods, its the amount thats wrong
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15/01/2021 10:53:17 374 131
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Except in most exceptional circumstances, I object most strongly to my taxes being used to pay for other peoples children to be fed. If you can't afford to have children don't have them.

Can't feed - don't breed!
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15/01/2021 11:01:40 21 43
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Selfish
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15/01/2021 11:01:43 126 34
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Maybe (and I know it's a radical idea), but just maybe, you should only have children you afford to feed yourself|!!!!
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15/01/2021 11:03:59 48 31
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This is correct but what happens when five years latter something unexpected happens and you can no longer afford to (I.E a global pandemic wiping out jobs)
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15/01/2021 11:04:58 7 7
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Without the next generation of workers... who’s going to pay for your pension?
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15/01/2021 11:08:47 16 4
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Totally agree, if you can't afford to keep children don't have any...if you do in the first instance it's your responsibility to feed and cloth them, it's not making sure you or they have the latest phones, fashion and trainers!
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15/01/2021 11:13:27 12 6
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Too sensible for the career benefit merchants in this day and age. I feel sorry for those that have fallen on hard times and need to rely on food parcels. I do not feel sorry for the dole merchants bred by the Labour government of past times that appear to think it is their given right for taxpayers to bring up their offspring.
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15/01/2021 11:04:45 7 5
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Maybe they should have a crystal ball too? How heartless.
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15/01/2021 11:07:08 7 5
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What about if you could afford to feed them, but then you lost your livelihood due to government handling of Covid/Brexit, you used up all your savings, your home is being repossessed and now you're on Universal Credit? Any ideas, or does that spoil your little rant?
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15/01/2021 11:18:05 6 5
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Covid has affected many lives and I doubt was considered when starting/growing a family.
normal council estate ...families have about 5 kids Removed
15/01/2021 13:25:27 0 1
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Or if you do have don't raise them as sociopathic spoiled brats like you Portnoy.
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15/01/2021 10:51:42 83 18
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This is very worthy, but it does evade the essential issue.

The trick here is to end POVERTY, not just food poverty. Families able to support themselves do not need to rely on unfriendly, bureaucratic, ham-fisted and tight-fisted government policies to feed their kids.

If we do not do this, then everything concerning living will always be a patchwork of neglect and partial support for them.
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15/01/2021 11:01:51 8 0
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The best way to do it? Invest in an economy that will provide good and productive jobs for people.

Won't happen though, as increasing amounts of the national wealth are used to further inflate our economically useless and damaging asset bubble.
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15/01/2021 10:51:35 225 65
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SIMPLES - have kids be prepared to pay for them!
Benefits should be for those in dire need through no fault of their own.
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15/01/2021 11:01:52 21 13
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And if not, punish the kids. Make them go hungry. Let me guess, you support this government?
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15/01/2021 11:56:10 2 2
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Meagre though it was, the contents of that food parcel, remember, were intended for one child's lunches for 5 days, to replace what the school could not provide. I do not support the govt, nor the opposition, but this whole debate needs to be seen in perspective, remembering that additional support is available for families who claim it.
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Rob
15/01/2021 10:51:42 83 18
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This is very worthy, but it does evade the essential issue.

The trick here is to end POVERTY, not just food poverty. Families able to support themselves do not need to rely on unfriendly, bureaucratic, ham-fisted and tight-fisted government policies to feed their kids.

If we do not do this, then everything concerning living will always be a patchwork of neglect and partial support for them.
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15/01/2021 11:02:00 13 1
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Poverty is income below 60% of the average - so it will always exist. Too often (not always) the issue is feckless parent(s). I wouldn't support this awful government's approach but infinite expenditure will not resolve this issue on its own.