Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'
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Some hauliers say they have faced long delays and fear things will get worse before they get better.
Well said! suck it up re-moaners
We are happy with it, so far I've not noticed any empty shelves more than when in the EU, and I note the number of vaccines we've licenced and the number we are vaccinating, unlike the EU.
Brexit was supposed to do away with "EU bureaucracy" and red tape.
Another Brexiter lie.
It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
Another Brexiter lie.
It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
No, that is not the case and it is silly to mix Eurocrats with red tape. I was 100% against federation and accepted leaving would increase red tape, the EU rely on red tape to protect themselves
It's a pity that these employers didn't all speak up and warn their employees before the vote what brexit would probably mean for them.
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some hauliers say they have faced long delays.
From the BBC article. Define some!
From the BBC article. Define some!
What an utter garbage story.
Goods are imported from all over the world every minute without issue. This is just someone who is not used to doing the necessary paperwork. He will either learn or get fired.
Goods are imported from all over the world every minute without issue. This is just someone who is not used to doing the necessary paperwork. He will either learn or get fired.
Yes. "Friction-free?" That's what everyone enjoyed before. Now...? God, how Brexiteers were misled, and deluded...
Trivial. Meanwhile not being in the EU means we have the vaccine which is saving lives whilst the EU, as reported even by the BBC, cant. Project Fear is now proven as the real 'lie'.
We cant control the EU either from in it or from outside. What we CAN do is to stand up to them. The French spend 6 hours checking paperwork, then we should spend 6 weeks checking theirs... let the queues build up their side, block their exports to us. Dutch confiscate drivers sandwiches? Inspect every sq inch of their lorries VERY slowly before starting on their loads. Give back what we get!
LOL I've now heard it all, Brexit is responsible for the EU's punishment of the UK? Well, it is true I suppose, but normal people might get very angry at the EU, from confiscating a UK Lorry driver's lunch to stopping trucks (as the article above says) despite correct paperwork or due to a 'dodgy seal' is taking the mickey, to then blame the UK is beyond parody
Brexit isn't going very well at the moment is it?
We can't say we were not warned
We can't say we were not warned
Looks good to me so far, just needs bedding in for a couple of months, then it will be peaches.
Looks OK to me but we listened to our carriers, changed and automated processes and checked the documentation before 1st Jan expecting a no deal deal Brexit before we finished for Christmas. The country of origin clause threw us a curve ball on return but we'll deal with that. Those that didn't seem to be gumming things up - thanks for that.
Totally disagree. All projects have teething issues - have you been involved in any? If this really was the catastrophe that you are implying don't you think that the news would be full of it? You and others need to get a grip and move forward with positivity. In case you are wondering I am not a Brexiteer!
and to think a sizeable chunk of Brexit supporters wanted no-deal. What a mess we would be in then! A bad deal was better than no deal after all. Just have to wait to see how bad it really is.
It's going fine thanks
Well hopefully things will improve over time as paperwork becomes the norm.
We're just waving vehicles in at the moment - wait til the checks are both ways.
It always does, the moaning minnies like to jump on this so it validates their petulant stance against brexit, but the reality is that things will soon streamline and systems adjust.
Chaos after just 2 weeks. Multiple bankruptcies looming, and UK gov hasn't got a clue!
Oh dear. Doom! Gloom! Project Fear!!
Do you work for the BBC by any chance?
Do you work for the BBC by any chance?
hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj
Not 'chaos' as you put it but, just 'challenging' as Tesco put it. Change always brings teething problems and this is no different. Your problem seems to be you are STILL fighting the referendum campaign, the UK has LEFT the EU and won't be re-joining. You had your chance to get a 'softer' BREXIT when May was in power but you wanted it all and ended up with nothing. Get over it and move on.
Already happening in Spain, so much for Covid Cultists lock-downs
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
Well hopefully things will improve over time as paperwork becomes the norm.
Well wasn't Brexit a silly thing to do?
No it was a good thing, breath in, feel the freedom
One thing for sure, most Leave voters don't bother with these HYS forums anymore as Brexit is done.
It leaves these HYS's as an empty echo chamber full of upset remain voters. I can understand that. There is no other recourse for now.
Maybe there will be a movement to re-join soon?
It leaves these HYS's as an empty echo chamber full of upset remain voters. I can understand that. There is no other recourse for now.
Maybe there will be a movement to re-join soon?
And the BBC line up another HYS for those people who just can't let go of the fact they lost. You know the type, re-moan about the referee, re-moan about VAR, re-mona about bad luck, re-moan about anything that justifies their re-moaning. And will be the first to vote down this post - tawn :-)
What did you win? Please tell us. Did you vote for the fish to feel happier?
Unable to comment on the actual issue, the Brexit supporter just goes on a random attack. Because the situation is very hard to defend.
You appear to be doing a lot of moaning.
Bring on a United Ireland and free the occupied 6 counties. We can then go back to being EU members with none of this.
Brexists can stay in 'Spoons' reading beermats and complaining of Viagra shortages. It is what they voted for.
Brexists can stay in 'Spoons' reading beermats and complaining of Viagra shortages. It is what they voted for.
One of the biggest issues with Brexit was accommodating the Good Friday Agreement, it was done with more compromise by us than the EU, they used it as a weapon. You think we would give away our territory just for a minority EU citizens, those in NI (& UK) have citizenship already, so what is your point? Go away.
They are free, free to have a referendum on leaving the UK whenever they want, only the Irish Government doesn't seem that keen on asking for one. ;-)
And the BBC line up another HYS for those people who just can't let go of the fact they lost. You know the type, re-moan about the referee, re-moan about VAR, re-mona about bad luck, re-moan about anything that justifies their re-moaning. And will be the first to vote down this post - tawn :-)
Oh dear, didn't you understand what Brexit was about, ask your parents, maybe they can explain it to you.
"the overarching difficulty is that the system now has inbuilt bureaucracy"
Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?
The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?
The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
Prior to the referendum there where about half a dozen constitutional experts, we now have about 50 million.
ANYTHING?
Prior to the referendum there where about half a dozen constitutional experts, we now have about 50 million.
There are lots of brexit benefits and you have been repeatedly told them - just in your petulance you like to deny them each and every time. Instead you jump on a few teething issues as PROOF you were right and we should have remained. It's laughable to watch and you guys think you're the intelligent ones!
"Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last"
The people who most want to keep the UK out of the EU ... is the EU and people in the EU.
Why Brexit will last. They can see that people in the UK can't handle democracy. They have an unelected 2nd chamber, a broken FPTP system, MPs & governments who can do EXACTLY what they want .. often the opposite of promised & no one cares.
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The people who most want to keep the UK out of the EU ... is the EU and people in the EU.
Why Brexit will last. They can see that people in the UK can't handle democracy. They have an unelected 2nd chamber, a broken FPTP system, MPs & governments who can do EXACTLY what they want .. often the opposite of promised & no one cares.
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There will be no rejoining. The EU is doomed. Brexit is just one of many serious problems it has at the moment. UK is better off aligning with the US rather than the EU.
Happy fish maybe?
You know the majority of the 48% weren't pro the EU (we know that is 12%) but were "Pah. Why change." You aren't starting from a base of 48% when asking for another try / best 7 out of 13.
Personally I thought "Pah" would have been more than 50% on its own. But clearly it wasn't.
48% = I feel even 1% European (12%) + "Why change?" + "I want to leave, but think it is too risky."
Personally I thought "Pah" would have been more than 50% on its own. But clearly it wasn't.
48% = I feel even 1% European (12%) + "Why change?" + "I want to leave, but think it is too risky."
The overreaching difficulty is we should not need to import as much as much as we should and we need to start making more in the U.K. the world cannot continue to keep moving goods around like it does, global warming being one consequence.
English public opinion may move towards rejoin but why do you think the EU wants you back?
There is seriously not 1 benefit I have seen in four years of following this story. Other than an ideological halo for a few of England's green and pleasant lands there is literally nothing to say, wow, this was worth it chaps. Nothing.
Easy. No money paid to EU institution anymore. More for ourselves. Less migrants. Less money paid in benefits to children living in Europe, more for our own (Marcus Rashford will be pleased). More housing, more healthcare, more school places for ourselves. Ask yourself how the EU will make up the deficit they face without our funds. By tightening their belts? By putting a squeeze on Italy/Greece!
Vaccines & vaccination, in fact Brexit Britain has exposed the EU's incompetence on that score.
Best ask those having difficulties whether they voted for Brexit or not. If the answer is yes, tell em tough, that's what you voted for. Those who didn't vote for Brexit should be compensated for the extra costs incurred.
Really? I marched for peace. Labour took us to war, I supported our armed forces in the job they had to do. Should I have had a tax rebate because I didn't agree with the war? There was a referendum, the majority voted to leave, get on board or find some EU heritage so you can leave.
Why? They are being vaccinated aren't they, or do you think we should only vaccinate leavers? Had it not been for Boris and Brexit, Europe never mind the UK would still be waiting for the EU to licence vaccines.
Brexit supporters strangely gone silent.
No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
A couple of years ago in Bromsgrove I did hear two benefits of Brexit. Direct quotes 'We left the EU just in case the US joined' and 'The main problem with the EU is all the Mexicans'. No duff... nothing about happy fish though...Quitlings, no sense of humour
Not at all, we are just sitting here smiling whilst you whinge on & on lol.
Not our problem.
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No....just overwhelmed with negative reporting from our impartial reporters on the BBC.
Oh heres an idea.
Sell all this Lamb, Venison & Fish to the BRITISH public, invest in our economy!!! Radical or what!!!
Oh heres an idea.
Sell all this Lamb, Venison & Fish to the BRITISH public, invest in our economy!!! Radical or what!!!
Have you seen and heard the chaos that is the EU recently, infighting over vaccines, the Germans buying their own supplies and no one getting vaccinated anyway. Thank. God we left
Vaccinations - to busy - how is the EU doing re vaccines?
"the overarching difficulty is that the system now has inbuilt bureaucracy"
Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?
The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?
The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
Where is the pettiness? The UK wanted to break from the single market and customs union, there by creating a customs border, that must have some level of paperwork, as to covid tests France are doing what the UK is doing, asking for reliable tests which take longer. are saying the UK is wrong in asking for these tests? Or do as I say not as I do arrogance!
It's not "pettiness", it's the LAW. They don't want unchecked goods coming into their countries, as we shouldn't if we value our food standards and biodiversity.
What a petty attitude. Grow up.
As I understand it we are subjected to the same import / export regs that any third country that deals with the EU has to put up with. But somehow brexiteers were convinced we would be 'special'. Now they see we aren't...it is the petty EU that is the problem.
Brexit is the problem. And those that voted for it should own it.
Brexit is the problem. And those that voted for it should own it.
You avoid the question, what are the benefits?
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Our direction ? All we have done is make a terrible deal that covers 20% of our exports. Left 80% on a 30 days notice period and increased costs. On top we rolled over other deals with no improvements we are not free to change our standards or help industry of choice with our Tariffs. Where are we heading ??
you are busy spouting nonsense - same old excuse blame someone else
Your joking right ? So far all you've put forward is your narrow minded opinions , UK is now isolated whether you care to admit it or not it will take years if ever for the economy to recover. I'm also old enough to remember why we joined the EEC in the first place , UK had no markets other than a failing commonwealth .
you still have not come up with a single tangible benefit to all of us in the uk.....
Pettiness of the EU?? Sorry, this was a deal brokered between two 'Sovereign equals' was it not?? You can't criticise the EU for sticking to their side of the agreement.
Same old rubbish from Chipplesea, - 50,000 extra beaurocrats for HMRC. The entire Beaurocratic EU was run by fewer people than that!. Plus all the people needed in companies to deal with exporting and importing add ianother 20,000. At least it is providing work unfornutely totally unproductive and useless work. Welcome to the real world not the Brexit fantasy
Well! No doubt UK customs will be doing there bit to protect the country from illicit and substandard products that don't meet our diverging regulations.
I think the pettiness comes from our side! The deterrents entirely of our own making...
The EU is protecting the single market. The UK was told what it would mean. Now they begin to understand.
It means they have lost 27 trading partners and it has none left. Each of those 27 trading partners has lost one partner and has 27 left.
It means they have lost 27 trading partners and it has none left. Each of those 27 trading partners has lost one partner and has 27 left.
True who would want to go on a day trip to France with a picnic basket next summer (assuming the lock-downs aren't still in place) they'd nick all your meat sandwiches. IF they are starving, they should just let us know, I'm sure we'd send them food parcels.
And the BBC line up another HYS for those people who just can't let go of the fact they lost. You know the type, re-moan about the referee, re-moan about VAR, re-mona about bad luck, re-moan about anything that justifies their re-moaning. And will be the first to vote down this post - tawn :-)
No, I am able to explain the benefits to someone who is willing to listen, but I am speaking to those with fish stuck in their ears. And they not happy, neither the people nor the fish.
Brexit supporters strangely gone silent.
Yep, the fishermen are happy they have happy British fish with nowhere to sell them, haulliers that cant get through customs for all the paperwork, of course this was the paperwork that Redwood the great supporter of BREXIT promised to get rid of, remember him at the tory conference pulling reams of paperwork that was to be got rid of!
Repetitive rubbish ! Tell that to the Scottish Fishermen, the car manufacturers. This whole Brex**it was sold on a tissue of rubbish and I quote Gove M we shall stay in the single market and customs union, which any European state can be in regardless of whether you are in the EU to to leave with only Belarus for company is like thinking Monsieur Juncker will campaign for UKIP!
'We won'?. What exactly did you win? I assume that you are part of the rich elite, with your money safely hidden offshore, or a disaster capitalist waiting to pickup the pieces from a crashed economy. Maybe you can pick up a Scottish fishery on the cheap.
No you lost we are a smaller irrelevant country with fewer prospects and a laughing stock to the rest of the world. The best outcome is we have strengthend the EU , we are worse off without them as you are finding out. All we can do is make with the mouth but that doesn't count in the real world. Welcome to Ruritainia, poverty, pomp, ridiculousness
Our "grudge" will be lifelong, thanks, for what you have brought about!
They are reporting on actual real world problems with trucking. Which part of this doesn't compute?
"Get over it" - I'm afraid that is just not going to happen. 16.1 million of us voted to remain in the EU and are very, very unhappy at being forced to leave, especially when the actual economic and financial benefits of leaving remain a mystery. I have yet to see a costed, data and evidence-based report on the economic benefits of leaving the EU. Does it exist? Brexiteers, please explain.
This is Brexit. It won't get much better. We're stuck with it.
The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
It will get better, you just need a little patience
Grow up, any admin changes will become insignificant costs once they are used to it and systems have evolved. Most countries aren't inside the EU you know.
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The doomsayer crystal ball again?
You worry to much
I do work in the logistics business and the big problem is that the EU companies are not up to speed and we are having to correct all of their mistakes
The UK Gov are in fact doing well much better than the EU who are still playing politics but that was to be expected
I do work in the logistics business and the big problem is that the EU companies are not up to speed and we are having to correct all of their mistakes
The UK Gov are in fact doing well much better than the EU who are still playing politics but that was to be expected
Just had an email from Whittards of Chelsea 'Sadly, we have had to suspend shipping to the EU due to complexities and changes brought on by Brexit' - that is business lost to the UK, tax revenue lost to the UK & opportunities for French suppliers of tea, chocolate & coffee to get that business & keep it. Well done Brexiteers. I hope they find a way round before they lose their EU customer base.
I wouldn't worry, Covid lock-downs are so disastrous no one will notice Brexit - unless of course you are blaming the current EU crises as due to Brexit? If so then leavers were right, it is hurting them far more than it hurt us.
And the BBC line up another HYS for those people who just can't let go of the fact they lost. You know the type, re-moan about the referee, re-moan about VAR, re-mona about bad luck, re-moan about anything that justifies their re-moaning. And will be the first to vote down this post - tawn :-)
The House of Commons voted overwhelmingly for the Iraq War, few more enthusiastically than Boris Johnson
So much for democratic right to campaign or support for change! The new UK dictatorship
Only a majority of those who voted, or were allowed to vote. 26% of the population. The referendum was deeply flawed, advisory and riddled with lies, illegal use of data and overspending. What a disgusting comment 'find some EU heritage so you can leave'.
Or we can stop buying products from Brexit/ tory supporting companies and areas.
I don’t need to get on board . Financially I can sit back without a care in the world , spend a significant time out of the Uk when I will spend my hard earned cash and come back to the UK when it suits me .
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
We left over 12 months ago not a few weeks.
Mate, supermarkets can't even ship stuff to Northern Ireland due to the cost and the red tape...
but of course brexiteers knew this was going to happen as they knew what they were voting for, right? this is just what they wanted
but of course brexiteers knew this was going to happen as they knew what they were voting for, right? this is just what they wanted
yeah but ''whose red tape?'' is it?
I assume you mean "can't",
ps Boris did not promise anything of the sort, if there was one thing guaranteed was more red tape, the EU use it as a weapon to protect their empire
ps Boris did not promise anything of the sort, if there was one thing guaranteed was more red tape, the EU use it as a weapon to protect their empire
We won haha brexiteers won nothing they are just to stupid to realise
do you know if the EU exporters into the UK coping with the extra red tape - cannot see anything being reported about such problems
There are no cuts to red tape and its costs
On trade with non-EU countries. Yes non-EU countries do have a lot of red tape to trade with the EU. But we are not cutting this. New trade deals are all "continuity deals" on the terms agreed as EU members.
On trade with the EU. We are now a non-EU country. So we are faced with the additional red tape that hauliers and fishermen are now experiencing.
On trade with non-EU countries. Yes non-EU countries do have a lot of red tape to trade with the EU. But we are not cutting this. New trade deals are all "continuity deals" on the terms agreed as EU members.
On trade with the EU. We are now a non-EU country. So we are faced with the additional red tape that hauliers and fishermen are now experiencing.
In fairness they have got rid of the EU red tape to some extent the only problem is they have replaced it with some of there own, and just as it was with EU regulations and directives they are adding a bit.
it's not EU red tape , it's good old British red tape, world beating red tape
Assume you meant can't? Actually they can and are, by landing it in Denmark and avoiding the UK entirely.
Maybe he should have done as the owners of the other 4 in 5 trucks that got through did, fill in the right forms correctly?
"the overarching difficulty is that the system now has inbuilt bureaucracy"
Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?
The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?
The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
Please see comment below re asking your parents for an explanation :-)
We won the vote so we left & our prize is freedom from the EU. What did you win?
No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
Yep, the fishermen are happy they have happy British fish with nowhere to sell them, haulliers that cant get through customs for all the paperwork, of course this was the paperwork that Redwood the great supporter of BREXIT promised to get rid of, remember him at the tory conference pulling reams of paperwork that was to be got rid of!
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
If you wish to be pedantic, at least get your facts right. we did not leave 'over 12 months ago'.
One of the biggest issues with Brexit was accommodating the Good Friday Agreement, it was done with more compromise by us than the EU, they used it as a weapon. You think we would give away our territory just for a minority EU citizens, those in NI (& UK) have citizenship already, so what is your point? Go away.
And it's going to stay this difficult for the forseeable
but people knew what they voted for so wanted this, sorry you have to feel the consequences
but people knew what they voted for so wanted this, sorry you have to feel the consequences
We don't mind, we are being vaccinated. Covid lock-downs are the tsunami that is going to pile in from the shores of Southern Europe. Already starting, which is earlier than predicted.
Many of the issues here are caused by France unilaterally closing their border and should not be conflated with ''documentation issues''.
Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
A very poor deal
If the UK wanted no paperwork, the solution was easy... stay in the EU.
I don't understand why on earth leavers expected brexit to be free of downsides, small, medium, large and catastrophic. As for the upsides, we'll see if any appear in the next few years, although personally I'm doubtful that'll happen.
I don't understand why on earth leavers expected brexit to be free of downsides, small, medium, large and catastrophic. As for the upsides, we'll see if any appear in the next few years, although personally I'm doubtful that'll happen.
If you thought EU bureaucracy is bad, you don’t remember that traditional British bureaucracy is ten times worse. Our Jobsworths are the best in the world.
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
But our tax havens are free of EU rules.
One’s “£30 food parcel” business is doing well too.
One’s “£30 food parcel” business is doing well too.
Brexit bonus
Many of the issues here are caused by France unilaterally closing their border and should not be conflated with ''documentation issues''.
Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
Indeed - bad faith by the EU.
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
Where is the pettiness? The UK wanted to break from the single market and customs union, there by creating a customs border, that must have some level of paperwork, as to covid tests France are doing what the UK is doing, asking for reliable tests which take longer. are saying the UK is wrong in asking for these tests? Or do as I say not as I do arrogance!
This is Brexit. It won't get much better. We're stuck with it.
The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
Tell that to the businesses that are either now no longer, or the ones about to go under as well, then the unemployed that will follow
We were promised sunlit uplands from day 1, where are they exactly?#
And by patience I dont think I have the patience to wait the 50 years + that JRM predicted it would take before we got any benefit.
But you knew what you were voting for right?
And by patience I dont think I have the patience to wait the 50 years + that JRM predicted it would take before we got any benefit.
But you knew what you were voting for right?
Sure, unicorns are just round the corner.
Its like watching these American Covid patients denying it exists while in hospital being treated for it....
Compare the value of the £ to the $ and €. Getting better implies we will be better off. We will never catch up what we have thrown away.
Business will only have a certain amount of patience.
If it becomes clear that additional costs and/or delays tip the balance of profitability away from a UK company towards an EU company then that is where the trade, investment, and jobs will eventually go.
If it becomes clear that additional costs and/or delays tip the balance of profitability away from a UK company towards an EU company then that is where the trade, investment, and jobs will eventually go.
Better than what we have lost. I don't think so.
a) It won't.
b) And meanwhile...
b) And meanwhile...
Tell that to the meat exporters, fishing industry and our haulage/logistics industry.
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
Oh dear, didn't you understand what Brexit was about, ask your parents, maybe they can explain it to you.
Really? I marched for peace. Labour took us to war, I supported our armed forces in the job they had to do. Should I have had a tax rebate because I didn't agree with the war? There was a referendum, the majority voted to leave, get on board or find some EU heritage so you can leave.
The HoC refused to back Brexit until we kicked large numbers of them out.
This is the result of your Brexit vote. You thought you would see less ethnic minorities on the streets by voting out and in the end, none of that is true and instead you will soon be left with empty supermarket shelves. Enjoy your so called sovereignty.
'Enjoy your so called sovereignty.'
Thank you, and I hope you do to as soon as you can get over the bitterness.
Thank you, and I hope you do to as soon as you can get over the bitterness.
Reducing migration via FOM will help the young and working class. Shelves will not be empty, just like we won't be starving in the streets, an immediate 30% house price drop, 800,000 extra unemployed, no insulin supplies and all the other project fear paranoia.
It will get better, you just need a little patience
Johnson's hasty deal is unravelling already, not that anyone's surprised.
NO IT ISN'T - But you clearly can't move on from a clear decision to leave which has now been implemented. The Remain side which seems to include you is still arguing to overturn a democratic decision which puts you in exactly the same camp as Trump denying he lost his election, but I suppose you will be in denial again and say that's completely different.
Really? I marched for peace. Labour took us to war, I supported our armed forces in the job they had to do. Should I have had a tax rebate because I didn't agree with the war? There was a referendum, the majority voted to leave, get on board or find some EU heritage so you can leave.
The issue is you've been campaigning for change before the democratic vote was even enacted. Perhaps now is the time to see how things pan-out for a while before storming the barricades.
This is what happens when you let people vote by showing them selective images of foreigners during the brexit campaigns, who resemble those middle class ethnic minorities who have been the fabric of our socierty. You voted emotionally to get out now live with it. Serves you right.
EU is less "ethnic" than the UK and EU countries are generally far more racist.
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
where are the bbc news stories relating to import problems - surely the Europeans must be experiencing the same problems exporting their products to the UK?
Well hopefully things will improve over time as paperwork becomes the norm.
This is the result of your Brexit vote. You thought you would see less ethnic minorities on the streets by voting out and in the end, none of that is true and instead you will soon be left with empty supermarket shelves. Enjoy your so called sovereignty.
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
Unable to comment on the actual issue, the Brexit supporter just goes on a random attack. Because the situation is very hard to defend.
This article is another example of the Brexit winners ......
... fighting a losing battle.
... fighting a losing battle.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
https://albaniandailynews.com/news/italy-s-government-falls-into-chaos-further-complicating-the-covid-response
Or from DW,
"German tabloid Bild on Monday took aim at Chancellor Angela Merkel, suggesting her decision to take the European Union route to distribute the vaccine as a collective had hindered progress."
https://albaniandailynews.com/news/italy-s-government-falls-into-chaos-further-complicating-the-covid-response
Or from DW,
"German tabloid Bild on Monday took aim at Chancellor Angela Merkel, suggesting her decision to take the European Union route to distribute the vaccine as a collective had hindered progress."
Finally it is dawning on Brexiteers (aka Trumpeteers) that they were lied too. Nothing like a bit of hunger, discomfort and poverty to drive the point home.
Except there will be no hunger, discomfort and poverty from Brexit. Aside from that you're bang on!
Project Here.
Brexiteers all knew exactly what they were voting for...and as they constituted the majority in the referendum...this is democracy in action. UK style.
No they didnt, Voting on the principle of leaving the EU is one thing.
Implementation of Brexit is a totally different matter.
This could have been so much easier with a softer Brexit. Its the Tories that have made a dogs dinner of this. The blame lays firmly with them and those who voted for them.
Implementation of Brexit is a totally different matter.
This could have been so much easier with a softer Brexit. Its the Tories that have made a dogs dinner of this. The blame lays firmly with them and those who voted for them.
Any business hates change - adds complexity, time, sometimes costs. But business adapts
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
I suspect the BBC will never revisit these firms.
Many have already “got on with it” & left the U.K. for the EU.
Like Moggy, Farage & co.
The companies left will charge us more - for all the hassle.
& the products will end up being tat when we are forced to buy from the US & co.
Like Moggy, Farage & co.
The companies left will charge us more - for all the hassle.
& the products will end up being tat when we are forced to buy from the US & co.
Look at it this way.
When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?
No. It takes a little time.
It's the same with these customs issues. It will take time to master but before long it will become routine and second nature.
When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?
No. It takes a little time.
It's the same with these customs issues. It will take time to master but before long it will become routine and second nature.
Wouldn't have had to spend excess time, money & energy with customs issues if we hadn't left.
Brexit, the gift that keeps on taking.
Brexit, the gift that keeps on taking.
Brexit was supposed to do away with "EU bureaucracy" and red tape.
Another Brexiter lie.
It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
Another Brexiter lie.
It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
So you voted for making us all worse off. At least thats honesty i suppose
That's odd, all we heard from Brexiters for the past few years have been complaints about "EU red tape" and how Brexit would supposedly free us from it....
yeah, all well and good for you but do you run a haulage business...thought not, most of you folk that voted for Brexit, don't have to do business in Europe, so didn't have to affect you, but you are willing for it to affect British business working across Europe, as long as you got your sovereignty back(which we never lost in the first place)
They lied and lied again who said foods prices would increase, the working time directive would be reviewed and I couldn’t travel freely across Europe. This is no longer my country.
What federation? You mean that because all the EU members agree to do *some* things the same, you equate that with *everything*. They say berxiters are thick. The comment by Chippelsea just proves it. I bet before you voted you did zero research on what the EU actually is not what the red tops claim.
Obviously its not affecting you at this point but it will, you will sooner rather than later you will feel it in your pocket as will everyone. B.J. says he will compensate the fishing industry that again will come from tax payers pockets , just like everything else. As for your E.U. comment there is no one but the likes of you to blame for the mess UK finds itself in.
So increased red tape is actually worth what you've gained? And what is that?
What federation
Now the uk is more of a federation than the eu is or ever will be
That being said I would be in favour if a fully integrated eu similar to what we have in the uk
Now the uk is more of a federation than the eu is or ever will be
That being said I would be in favour if a fully integrated eu similar to what we have in the uk
50% of red tape is imposed by the UK. You have red tape when exporting everywhere. That now includes the EU. This is an absolute nightmare. I've also had 2 weeks of hell
Any business hates change - adds complexity, time, sometimes costs. But business adapts
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
Well wasn't Brexit a silly thing to do?
Convince me please! Tell me how does this "freedom" feel!
I mean other than the facts described in the article.
I mean other than the facts described in the article.
Unless you live near the Farage garage.
Then go back to filling in those forms.
Then go back to filling in those forms.
"breath in, feel the freedom"
I can only assume that you're being sarcastic?
I can only assume that you're being sarcastic?
The freedom for the Tories to dismantle employees rights and bring back bee killing sprays you mean?! ??
Rather a silly comment to make during a national lockdown where nobody has much taste of freedom...
Think of all those happy fish!
hahahahahahahah, freedom!, we never lost it in the first place you div
The freedom to freely travel and work and live in most of Europe. That freedom?
Not if you're in Kent. Just breathe the fumes in the toilet of England!
Shut up otherwise I'll kick your Zimmer frame away.
Seriously ? You had your freedom before. Name 1 thing that's better other than your addled sense of independence.
Removed
When I breath in I smell not freedom but rule from England. Federal UK please,
Hmm, no. I'm not feeling it. A year ago I was free to work and if I chose to do so, to live on mainland Europe. I was free to buy at a reasonable price the produce of a large trading bloc, and sell my produce there. Not anymore. Some small minded people decided that that was worth sacrificing for the sake of a few disaster capitalists and tax dodgers, in the name of a vaccuous "sovereignty".
"No it was a good thing, breath in, feel the freedom"
Freedom doesn't put food on the table.
Freedom doesn't put food on the table.
We never lost our freedom.
Haven't you grasped that those claims were just propaganda to get your vote?
Haven't you grasped that those claims were just propaganda to get your vote?
Stupid nebulous default response that is never nailed down
So just explain what it is you can do now that you couldn't do before
Just how did they stunt your ambition?
So just explain what it is you can do now that you couldn't do before
Just how did they stunt your ambition?
Er... would you please explain the "freedom" you mention? How EXACTLY are we any freer?
and look at the vaccination and vaccine news, then remember all the remoaners moaning when we pulled out of the EU's vaccine program. Which they seem to have forgotten.
Rob London
11:17
"Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be."
You expect the EU to follow the UK in not wanting to ensure it's regulations are adhered to?
Why should the EU do that? UK knew the consequences of leaving the EU.
11:17
"Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be."
You expect the EU to follow the UK in not wanting to ensure it's regulations are adhered to?
Why should the EU do that? UK knew the consequences of leaving the EU.
Keith this username is old hat, try one of your other 1000 or so.
Oh dear, didn't you understand what Brexit was about, ask your parents, maybe they can explain it to you.
By the way, the NHS is due 700mil so far this year : any sign of that?
And do you work for the Tory party by any chance? Busy night at HQ manning the chat rooms.
We have already been told the red tape is here to stay. Sure business may become more used to it in time but it’s a hassle they can probably do without. Maybe John Deadwood will tell us to start growing our own pineapples and bananas ??
Don't worry EU red tape isn't exactly flavour of the month in Germany at present, once the covid lock-down devastation hits, they'll be less inclined to upset the UK.
Many of the issues here are caused by France unilaterally closing their border and should not be conflated with ''documentation issues''.
Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
Finally it is dawning on Brexiteers (aka Trumpeteers) that they were lied too. Nothing like a bit of hunger, discomfort and poverty to drive the point home.
Unemployment, low wages and fled businesses will leas to poverty and hunger.
Admittedly, not all due to Brexit.
10 years of Tory misrule and austerity gave us a high baseline.
Admittedly, not all due to Brexit.
10 years of Tory misrule and austerity gave us a high baseline.
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
As I understand it we are subjected to the same import / export regs that any third country that deals with the EU has to put up with. But somehow brexiteers were convinced we would be 'special'. Now they see we aren't...it is the petty EU that is the problem.
Brexit is the problem. And those that voted for it should own it.
Brexit is the problem. And those that voted for it should own it.
Blah blah blah blah, more denying & lies from the leave crowd.
After all, we were fine when we were living in caves and we clearly survived it, so we may as well go back to that.
I assume you making a joke? Unless you have no idea what is going on Borats no Brexit deal! No valid driving license at the end of 2021 for Europe, no sky go, passports being stamped, at least 2% extra costs on import shipments. These are just a few changes. FOR WHAT! The Brexit gift that keeps giving
Can we hold you to account after that then? Where do we send our compensation claims to, because I'm not going to bear the cost of the stupidity of the 17.4m. You lot voted for this chaos, you lot should take responsibility and pay the price.
I assume nice Italian Peaches, One of the Highlight`s of my trip to Sardinia.
Depends what your expectations are - if you really think it's looking good so far it sounds like your definition of peaches may not be up to much
..with no cream...
Because you don't have to lift a feckless finger in any case. You know what they say, if you ain't in the game nobody cares what you think.
but the peaches may be a tad overripe from the addtional customs delays getting into the country.
I'm afraid you are very naive if you think these woes are some sort of teething problems. This increased bureaucracy and the resulting delays were predicted even before the 'leave' vote 4 years ago and were an argument against leaving. Welcome to the 'new normal' - delays which will not improve. I look forward to your "peaches" time...
and from whichever country in the world we choose to buy them without EU interference.
This is what happens when you let people vote by showing them selective images of foreigners during the brexit campaigns, who resemble those middle class ethnic minorities who have been the fabric of our socierty. You voted emotionally to get out now live with it. Serves you right.
Gimli Cymru
11:36
"When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?"
Picking apples in one field is pretty similar to picking apples in another field I imagine.
If, however, you are referring to professionals, one doesn't generally employ an epidemiologist as a trade negotiator ....
.. even if they would do a better job than the useless Tory.
11:36
"When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?"
Picking apples in one field is pretty similar to picking apples in another field I imagine.
If, however, you are referring to professionals, one doesn't generally employ an epidemiologist as a trade negotiator ....
.. even if they would do a better job than the useless Tory.
Haha, good reply.
I would replace the UK cabinet with apple pickers, they are so out of their depth it’s embarrassing?
Pity, as the epidemiologists we listen to is useless, below is in 2005 - odd he hasn't repeated that last month when Bird Flu hit the UK & Europe. Talking of Europe, it is a pity, as their Vaccine program is in chaos their experts might be needing alternative jobs if the Germans get their way, mind you Germany is in crisis now.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/sep/30/birdflu.jamessturcke
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/sep/30/birdflu.jamessturcke
I have argued for a long time that bureaucracy stifles growth, you can make processes simple but still maintain standards and high quality. We seem to love to impose bureaucracy in our systems and policies with very little thought on how this would work in the real world. We then have to employ 'experts' to deal with over bureaucratic and complex systems. Less bureaucracy equals more growth.
This is the result of your Brexit vote. You thought you would see less ethnic minorities on the streets by voting out and in the end, none of that is true and instead you will soon be left with empty supermarket shelves. Enjoy your so called sovereignty.
"Reducing migration via FOM will help the young and working class"
Help them how, exactly? Gives them more opportunities for fruit picking? Can't think offhand of any other ways that it will help them.
Help them how, exactly? Gives them more opportunities for fruit picking? Can't think offhand of any other ways that it will help them.
Boris GOT BREXIT DONE. The hauliers have got done; the supermarkets have got done. Industry and Tariffs have got done. The new Irish border has got done. The DUP for all their money grabbing have got done and maybe soon the breakaway of Scotland will get done. The fishermen have well and truly got done. UK tourists on holiday will get done by having to join the long queues. WE ALL GOT DONE.
It happens a lot around the world. Where the UK is unique - Her Majesties Subjects actually having democratically voted for this! It's "the wish of the people"...
Have just seen an update from HMRC. The BREXIT BONUS is going to cost £ 7 BILLION a year in additional paperwork alone. And that's before the rest of the losses are considered. Yep. WE HAVE WELL AND TRUELY BEEN DONE. There was no Big Red Bus money for the NHS. Now it really needs it. All this lot in charge, BJ and Co. will give is more budget cuts. What a mess you've gotten us into.
Well said! Sums it up...
I note your response. Even the Economy minister in N Ireland ( who is DUP & pro Brexit) has had very serious concerns re the current situation. We were very badly prepared for this situation thanks to the clowns in Westminster who betrayed this once great nation. Not the first time the Tories have come back empty from Europe. Staying in the EU would have prevented all this stupidity.
UK tourists not holidaying abroad, particularly in Spain, got Spain done too, the EU has bigger problems, and nitpicking on the scale they are is going to backfire as quickly as their failure on the vaccine front, though perhaps with less consequences within the EU.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
A very poor deal
Gimli Cymru
11:36
"When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?"
Picking apples in one field is pretty similar to picking apples in another field I imagine.
If, however, you are referring to professionals, one doesn't generally employ an epidemiologist as a trade negotiator ....
.. even if they would do a better job than the useless Tory.
11:36
"When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?"
Picking apples in one field is pretty similar to picking apples in another field I imagine.
If, however, you are referring to professionals, one doesn't generally employ an epidemiologist as a trade negotiator ....
.. even if they would do a better job than the useless Tory.
Clearly not - I was sarcastically pointing out how stupid your comment was.
Only if you are as dumb and ill informed as Keith. ;-)
No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
Repetitive rubbish ! Tell that to the Scottish Fishermen, the car manufacturers. This whole Brex**it was sold on a tissue of rubbish and I quote Gove M we shall stay in the single market and customs union, which any European state can be in regardless of whether you are in the EU to to leave with only Belarus for company is like thinking Monsieur Juncker will campaign for UKIP!
Many of the issues here are caused by France unilaterally closing their border and should not be conflated with ''documentation issues''.
Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
If the UK wanted no paperwork, the solution was easy... stay in the EU.
I don't understand why on earth leavers expected brexit to be free of downsides, small, medium, large and catastrophic. As for the upsides, we'll see if any appear in the next few years, although personally I'm doubtful that'll happen.
I don't understand why on earth leavers expected brexit to be free of downsides, small, medium, large and catastrophic. As for the upsides, we'll see if any appear in the next few years, although personally I'm doubtful that'll happen.
This is Brexit. It won't get much better. We're stuck with it.
The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
You lot forced this crap on EVERYONE, you grow up and admit what you did - vote for the liars.
As a 72 yo grown up, I beg to disagree.
We may grt used to them, but the rules will bring extra costs permanently.
We may grt used to them, but the rules will bring extra costs permanently.
That must be why countries all around the world constantly agree trade deals to avoid those admin barriers.
No they didnt, Voting on the principle of leaving the EU is one thing.
Implementation of Brexit is a totally different matter.
This could have been so much easier with a softer Brexit. Its the Tories that have made a dogs dinner of this. The blame lays firmly with them and those who voted for them.
Implementation of Brexit is a totally different matter.
This could have been so much easier with a softer Brexit. Its the Tories that have made a dogs dinner of this. The blame lays firmly with them and those who voted for them.
May didn't offer any trade deal. The only one on offer was the one that Johnson negotiated.
Indeed - the remainer MPs were still intent on overthrowing democracy at the time.
Shortage of drivers
"In the first week of January, we couldn't find a single European sub-contractor prepared to come to the UK,"
With no FoM and a nation with a newly found reputation for xenophobia, hardly a surprise.
"In the first week of January, we couldn't find a single European sub-contractor prepared to come to the UK,"
With no FoM and a nation with a newly found reputation for xenophobia, hardly a surprise.
"We've had issues when we've been refused entry, but the paperwork is right." - Xenaphobia?
No reputation for xenophobia at all - in fact one of the least racist countries in Europe.
Europe and the UK have bigger issues Melly, you are behind the times, as usual.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
https://albaniandailynews.com/news/italy-s-government-falls-into-chaos-further-complicating-the-covid-response
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
https://albaniandailynews.com/news/italy-s-government-falls-into-chaos-further-complicating-the-covid-response
"the overarching difficulty is that the system now has inbuilt bureaucracy"
Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?
The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?
The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
There are lots of brexit benefits and you have been repeatedly told them - just in your petulance you like to deny them each and every time. Instead you jump on a few teething issues as PROOF you were right and we should have remained. It's laughable to watch and you guys think you're the intelligent ones!
Who knew the French would keep changing the rules said no one ever.
Haha, good reply.
Well wasn't Brexit a silly thing to do?
More BBC click-bait for the anti-Brexit mob.
Shortage of drivers
"In the first week of January, we couldn't find a single European sub-contractor prepared to come to the UK,"
With no FoM and a nation with a newly found reputation for xenophobia, hardly a surprise.
"In the first week of January, we couldn't find a single European sub-contractor prepared to come to the UK,"
With no FoM and a nation with a newly found reputation for xenophobia, hardly a surprise.
Why are you quoting a different section of this article, versus the quote that I made?
Understood that was refustal of entry to our ports, not on the other side?
The documentation is checked before ghey can enter the port areas.
The documentation is checked before ghey can enter the port areas.
"Xenaphobia"
What do you have against the noble Warrior Princess?
What do you have against the noble Warrior Princess?
While you are of course literally correct, there is one correction I have: May's WA included the whole UK remaining part of the CU, much like only NI is now (a.k.a. The Backstop). That precondition, would have allowed for a very different FTA negotiations outcome.
Brexit was supposed to do away with "EU bureaucracy" and red tape.
Another Brexiter lie.
It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
Another Brexiter lie.
It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
You mean having to deal with different paperwork and being more meticulous about the goods they are carrying ... sounds like Brexit is a bonus and open border s is a licence for low standard food stuffs as no one is checking as well as smuggling.
Firstly Employers should not influence Employees voting. Also Brexit was won by those trapped in Welfare dependency by a Labour government. They had 2 choices Stay = No change or Leave and step into the unknown. To many had nothing to lose. Society left them to rot and they voted to bring us all closer to them.
What makes you think that employers didn't vote for Brexit?
Like the Mafia (rife in Italy still according to recent news) and its 'Offers you can't refuse' how any Remainer can come on here and blame Brexit for the EU Mafia's protection racket having been dumped and then support the EU's 'punishment beating' despite an agreement is beyond belief. Have you people no shame?
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
No it was a good thing, breath in, feel the freedom
Any business hates change - adds complexity, time, sometimes costs. But business adapts
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
More BBC click-bait for the anti-Brexit mob.
Regardless of Brexit chaos, the Conservatives are working to a tried and tested formula supported by their friends in the media...someone else is to blame for any shambles and Boris Johnson and his cabinet chums wash their hands of it! Tory leader says 'F..k business!
There's always a flurry of Brexit articles in the Daily Express about imminent Irexit, Frexit, Italexit, and so on. Always handy if you're up for a bit of a depressing read, and don't forget the comments. It illustrates the aim of Brexiteers was never this so-called liberation, but the destruction of a perceived evil.
I am not a Brexiteer. Those who voted for Brexit thought that the extra inconvenience and costs associated with trading with Europe would be the negative effect of Brexit and that ending freedom of movement (and the associated strain on housing) would be the positive effect.
Indeed - I was a remain voter but the bitter petulance and extreme idiocy of the remoaner tribe has been amazing to watch. A few teething problems at the start are entirely immaterial in the scheme of things.
I have never really understood why we export produce and buy back the same produce from another country. Sounds like a wasted journey?
When you say "we", who are you talking about? You're not doing this, are you?
Reducing migration via FOM will help the young and working class. Shelves will not be empty, just like we won't be starving in the streets, an immediate 30% house price drop, 800,000 extra unemployed, no insulin supplies and all the other project fear paranoia.
Basic supply and demand economics - the expansion of the reserve pool of labour via FOM to far poorer countries can doing else but suppress the bargaining power of labour in favour of capital. You'll note that even the Guardian printed articles about business complaining they were having pay more after the vote and immigration slowed. Let alone accommodation costs.
FYI your bigotry that EU migrants are only good for fruit picking is a little distasteful to say the least. Many do a wide range of jobs in the UK and the ability for business to import a fresh keen worker willing to underhouse themselves for the opportunity is the source of wage stagnation in the face a a supposedly low unemployment rate.
Well hopefully things will improve over time as paperwork becomes the norm.
Suck it up. It is what you voted for.