Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'
15/01/2021 | news | business | 2,663
Some hauliers say they have faced long delays and fear things will get worse before they get better.
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15/01/2021 10:50:09 72 12
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Too late moaning about it now. Its done.

Suck it up. It is what you voted for.
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15/01/2021 11:39:10 17 115
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Well said! suck it up re-moaners
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15/01/2021 14:48:18 2 0
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I didn't. I'm not stupid
16/01/2021 14:32:04 1 1
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We are happy with it, so far I've not noticed any empty shelves more than when in the EU, and I note the number of vaccines we've licenced and the number we are vaccinating, unlike the EU.
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15/01/2021 10:51:44 324 65
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Brexit was supposed to do away with "EU bureaucracy" and red tape.

Another Brexiter lie.

It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
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15/01/2021 11:38:00 75 279
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No, that is not the case and it is silly to mix Eurocrats with red tape. I was 100% against federation and accepted leaving would increase red tape, the EU rely on red tape to protect themselves
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15/01/2021 11:56:44 44 7
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It's a pity that these employers didn't all speak up and warn their employees before the vote what brexit would probably mean for them.
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15/01/2021 13:35:32 4 39
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some hauliers say they have faced long delays.

From the BBC article. Define some!
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15/01/2021 13:36:10 9 57
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What an utter garbage story.

Goods are imported from all over the world every minute without issue. This is just someone who is not used to doing the necessary paperwork. He will either learn or get fired.
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15/01/2021 17:26:20 9 0
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Yes. "Friction-free?" That's what everyone enjoyed before. Now...? God, how Brexiteers were misled, and deluded...
TPB
15/01/2021 22:55:34 0 5
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Trivial. Meanwhile not being in the EU means we have the vaccine which is saving lives whilst the EU, as reported even by the BBC, cant. Project Fear is now proven as the real 'lie'.
16/01/2021 12:31:43 0 3
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We cant control the EU either from in it or from outside. What we CAN do is to stand up to them. The French spend 6 hours checking paperwork, then we should spend 6 weeks checking theirs... let the queues build up their side, block their exports to us. Dutch confiscate drivers sandwiches? Inspect every sq inch of their lorries VERY slowly before starting on their loads. Give back what we get!
16/01/2021 13:01:56 0 2
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LOL I've now heard it all, Brexit is responsible for the EU's punishment of the UK? Well, it is true I suppose, but normal people might get very angry at the EU, from confiscating a UK Lorry driver's lunch to stopping trucks (as the article above says) despite correct paperwork or due to a 'dodgy seal' is taking the mickey, to then blame the UK is beyond parody
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MVP
15/01/2021 10:52:37 229 30
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Brexit isn't going very well at the moment is it?

We can't say we were not warned
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15/01/2021 11:41:24 40 232
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Looks good to me so far, just needs bedding in for a couple of months, then it will be peaches.
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15/01/2021 12:16:50 3 23
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Looks OK to me but we listened to our carriers, changed and automated processes and checked the documentation before 1st Jan expecting a no deal deal Brexit before we finished for Christmas. The country of origin clause threw us a curve ball on return but we'll deal with that. Those that didn't seem to be gumming things up - thanks for that.
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15/01/2021 14:02:55 0 20
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Totally disagree. All projects have teething issues - have you been involved in any? If this really was the catastrophe that you are implying don't you think that the news would be full of it? You and others need to get a grip and move forward with positivity. In case you are wondering I am not a Brexiteer!
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15/01/2021 15:00:54 10 0
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and to think a sizeable chunk of Brexit supporters wanted no-deal. What a mess we would be in then! A bad deal was better than no deal after all. Just have to wait to see how bad it really is.
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15/01/2021 17:20:04 0 6
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It's going fine thanks
16/01/2021 17:47:41 0 0
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Oh?? And lets take Vaccination performance - UK versus whole of EU ?? EU performing versus UK then ??????
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15/01/2021 10:53:35 7 5
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Well hopefully things will improve over time as paperwork becomes the norm.
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15/01/2021 10:54:40 15 5
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Don't bet on it
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15/01/2021 11:17:08 3 0
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We're just waving vehicles in at the moment - wait til the checks are both ways.
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15/01/2021 12:07:05 2 2
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It always does, the moaning minnies like to jump on this so it validates their petulant stance against brexit, but the reality is that things will soon streamline and systems adjust.
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15/01/2021 10:54:14 167 18
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Chaos after just 2 weeks. Multiple bankruptcies looming, and UK gov hasn't got a clue!
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15/01/2021 11:40:23 30 170
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Oh dear. Doom! Gloom! Project Fear!!

Do you work for the BBC by any chance?
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15/01/2021 12:05:30 4 4
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hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj
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15/01/2021 14:06:24 0 9
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Not 'chaos' as you put it but, just 'challenging' as Tesco put it. Change always brings teething problems and this is no different. Your problem seems to be you are STILL fighting the referendum campaign, the UK has LEFT the EU and won't be re-joining. You had your chance to get a 'softer' BREXIT when May was in power but you wanted it all and ended up with nothing. Get over it and move on.
15/01/2021 22:36:01 1 0
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UK gov are rich boys who could not care less.
16/01/2021 13:23:06 0 0
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Already happening in Spain, so much for Covid Cultists lock-downs

https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
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15/01/2021 10:53:35 7 5
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Well hopefully things will improve over time as paperwork becomes the norm.
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15/01/2021 10:54:40 15 5
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Don't bet on it
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15/01/2021 10:55:23 233 42
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Well wasn't Brexit a silly thing to do?
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15/01/2021 11:38:35 48 227
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No it was a good thing, breath in, feel the freedom
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15/01/2021 11:51:23 15 0
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On second thoughts lets not go there, tis a silly place
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15/01/2021 13:38:01 1 27
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One thing for sure, most Leave voters don't bother with these HYS forums anymore as Brexit is done.

It leaves these HYS's as an empty echo chamber full of upset remain voters. I can understand that. There is no other recourse for now.

Maybe there will be a movement to re-join soon?
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15/01/2021 10:56:16 8 20
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And the BBC line up another HYS for those people who just can't let go of the fact they lost. You know the type, re-moan about the referee, re-moan about VAR, re-mona about bad luck, re-moan about anything that justifies their re-moaning. And will be the first to vote down this post - tawn :-)
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15/01/2021 10:59:00 18 3
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What did you win? Please tell us. Did you vote for the fish to feel happier?
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15/01/2021 11:05:37 6 0
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Unable to comment on the actual issue, the Brexit supporter just goes on a random attack. Because the situation is very hard to defend.
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15/01/2021 11:09:16 6 0
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You appear to be doing a lot of moaning.
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15/01/2021 10:57:09 26 8
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Bring on a United Ireland and free the occupied 6 counties. We can then go back to being EU members with none of this.

Brexists can stay in 'Spoons' reading beermats and complaining of Viagra shortages. It is what they voted for.
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15/01/2021 11:15:51 3 28
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One of the biggest issues with Brexit was accommodating the Good Friday Agreement, it was done with more compromise by us than the EU, they used it as a weapon. You think we would give away our territory just for a minority EU citizens, those in NI (& UK) have citizenship already, so what is your point? Go away.
16/01/2021 15:54:11 0 0
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They are free, free to have a referendum on leaving the UK whenever they want, only the Irish Government doesn't seem that keen on asking for one. ;-)
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15/01/2021 10:56:16 8 20
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And the BBC line up another HYS for those people who just can't let go of the fact they lost. You know the type, re-moan about the referee, re-moan about VAR, re-mona about bad luck, re-moan about anything that justifies their re-moaning. And will be the first to vote down this post - tawn :-)
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15/01/2021 10:59:00 18 3
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What did you win? Please tell us. Did you vote for the fish to feel happier?
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15/01/2021 11:02:06 2 5
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Oh dear, didn't you understand what Brexit was about, ask your parents, maybe they can explain it to you.
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15/01/2021 10:59:21 190 18
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"the overarching difficulty is that the system now has inbuilt bureaucracy"

Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?

The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.

Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
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15/01/2021 11:05:09 41 207
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And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
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15/01/2021 11:10:31 19 0
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Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?

Prior to the referendum there where about half a dozen constitutional experts, we now have about 50 million.
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15/01/2021 11:50:06 4 40
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There are lots of brexit benefits and you have been repeatedly told them - just in your petulance you like to deny them each and every time. Instead you jump on a few teething issues as PROOF you were right and we should have remained. It's laughable to watch and you guys think you're the intelligent ones!
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15/01/2021 12:17:56 2 0
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We got rid of Cameron and Gideon - There's 2
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15/01/2021 14:26:25 10 0
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There are no material benefits of BREXIT
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15/01/2021 14:55:32 4 1
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"Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last"

The people who most want to keep the UK out of the EU ... is the EU and people in the EU.

Why Brexit will last. They can see that people in the UK can't handle democracy. They have an unelected 2nd chamber, a broken FPTP system, MPs & governments who can do EXACTLY what they want .. often the opposite of promised & no one cares.

:-D
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15/01/2021 15:51:34 0 7
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There will be no rejoining. The EU is doomed. Brexit is just one of many serious problems it has at the moment. UK is better off aligning with the US rather than the EU.
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15/01/2021 17:09:12 1 0
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Happy fish maybe?
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15/01/2021 17:29:23 0 3
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You know the majority of the 48% weren't pro the EU (we know that is 12%) but were "Pah. Why change." You aren't starting from a base of 48% when asking for another try / best 7 out of 13.
Personally I thought "Pah" would have been more than 50% on its own. But clearly it wasn't.
48% = I feel even 1% European (12%) + "Why change?" + "I want to leave, but think it is too risky."
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jj
15/01/2021 17:46:20 0 0
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The overreaching difficulty is we should not need to import as much as much as we should and we need to start making more in the U.K. the world cannot continue to keep moving goods around like it does, global warming being one consequence.
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15/01/2021 18:00:20 2 0
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English public opinion may move towards rejoin but why do you think the EU wants you back?
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15/01/2021 17:58:24 4 0
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There is seriously not 1 benefit I have seen in four years of following this story. Other than an ideological halo for a few of England's green and pleasant lands there is literally nothing to say, wow, this was worth it chaps. Nothing.
15/01/2021 18:38:07 0 3
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Easy. No money paid to EU institution anymore. More for ourselves. Less migrants. Less money paid in benefits to children living in Europe, more for our own (Marcus Rashford will be pleased). More housing, more healthcare, more school places for ourselves. Ask yourself how the EU will make up the deficit they face without our funds. By tightening their belts? By putting a squeeze on Italy/Greece!
16/01/2021 13:20:20 0 2
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Vaccines & vaccination, in fact Brexit Britain has exposed the EU's incompetence on that score.
16/01/2021 20:35:57 0 0
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Being able to do our own trade deal to get enough vaccine? Saving lives in the race against covid and hopefully getting the economy up and running ASAP? EU countries haven’t been able to do this and they aren’t happy.
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15/01/2021 11:00:09 61 14
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Best ask those having difficulties whether they voted for Brexit or not. If the answer is yes, tell em tough, that's what you voted for. Those who didn't vote for Brexit should be compensated for the extra costs incurred.
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15/01/2021 11:09:32 17 78
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Really? I marched for peace. Labour took us to war, I supported our armed forces in the job they had to do. Should I have had a tax rebate because I didn't agree with the war? There was a referendum, the majority voted to leave, get on board or find some EU heritage so you can leave.
16/01/2021 14:38:31 0 0
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Why? They are being vaccinated aren't they, or do you think we should only vaccinate leavers? Had it not been for Boris and Brexit, Europe never mind the UK would still be waiting for the EU to licence vaccines.
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15/01/2021 10:59:00 18 3
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What did you win? Please tell us. Did you vote for the fish to feel happier?
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15/01/2021 11:02:06 2 5
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Oh dear, didn't you understand what Brexit was about, ask your parents, maybe they can explain it to you.
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15/01/2021 11:20:36 3 1
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Oh yes we now have British fish that are happy, I know we are a nation of animal lovers, but this is a bit stupid even for BREXITEERS!
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15/01/2021 11:38:56 3 0
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Answer the question, assuming you can...
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15/01/2021 11:03:11 170 21
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Brexit supporters strangely gone silent.
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15/01/2021 11:06:35 41 213
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No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
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15/01/2021 13:17:00 13 0
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A couple of years ago in Bromsgrove I did hear two benefits of Brexit. Direct quotes 'We left the EU just in case the US joined' and 'The main problem with the EU is all the Mexicans'. No duff... nothing about happy fish though...Quitlings, no sense of humour
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15/01/2021 14:16:13 1 10
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Not at all, we are just sitting here smiling whilst you whinge on & on lol.
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15/01/2021 14:51:13 1 2
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Not our problem.

:-D
15/01/2021 18:29:36 0 3
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No....just overwhelmed with negative reporting from our impartial reporters on the BBC.
Oh heres an idea.
Sell all this Lamb, Venison & Fish to the BRITISH public, invest in our economy!!! Radical or what!!!
15/01/2021 18:32:16 0 4
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Have you seen and heard the chaos that is the EU recently, infighting over vaccines, the Germans buying their own supplies and no one getting vaccinated anyway. Thank. God we left
16/01/2021 13:22:31 0 0
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Vaccinations - to busy - how is the EU doing re vaccines?
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15/01/2021 10:59:21 190 18
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"the overarching difficulty is that the system now has inbuilt bureaucracy"

Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?

The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.

Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
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15/01/2021 11:05:09 41 207
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And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
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15/01/2021 11:18:18 32 0
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Where is the pettiness? The UK wanted to break from the single market and customs union, there by creating a customs border, that must have some level of paperwork, as to covid tests France are doing what the UK is doing, asking for reliable tests which take longer. are saying the UK is wrong in asking for these tests? Or do as I say not as I do arrogance!
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15/01/2021 11:15:39 36 0
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It's not "pettiness", it's the LAW. They don't want unchecked goods coming into their countries, as we shouldn't if we value our food standards and biodiversity.
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15/01/2021 11:33:03 23 0
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What a petty attitude. Grow up.
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15/01/2021 11:41:19 36 2
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As I understand it we are subjected to the same import / export regs that any third country that deals with the EU has to put up with. But somehow brexiteers were convinced we would be 'special'. Now they see we aren't...it is the petty EU that is the problem.

Brexit is the problem. And those that voted for it should own it.
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15/01/2021 11:56:48 26 3
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Damn right rejoin as soon as possible!
WHAT AN IDIOT. Removed
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15/01/2021 13:30:29 12 0
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You avoid the question, what are the benefits?
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15/01/2021 14:34:30 7 0
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Our direction ? All we have done is make a terrible deal that covers 20% of our exports. Left 80% on a 30 days notice period and increased costs. On top we rolled over other deals with no improvements we are not free to change our standards or help industry of choice with our Tariffs. Where are we heading ??
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15/01/2021 14:40:59 6 0
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you are busy spouting nonsense - same old excuse blame someone else
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15/01/2021 16:48:36 4 0
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Your joking right ? So far all you've put forward is your narrow minded opinions , UK is now isolated whether you care to admit it or not it will take years if ever for the economy to recover. I'm also old enough to remember why we joined the EEC in the first place , UK had no markets other than a failing commonwealth .
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15/01/2021 16:51:36 2 1
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They have taken back control of their borders.
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15/01/2021 16:54:08 4 0
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you still have not come up with a single tangible benefit to all of us in the uk.....
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15/01/2021 16:58:38 4 0
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Pettiness of the EU?? Sorry, this was a deal brokered between two 'Sovereign equals' was it not?? You can't criticise the EU for sticking to their side of the agreement.
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15/01/2021 17:00:56 4 0
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Same old rubbish from Chipplesea, - 50,000 extra beaurocrats for HMRC. The entire Beaurocratic EU was run by fewer people than that!. Plus all the people needed in companies to deal with exporting and importing add ianother 20,000. At least it is providing work unfornutely totally unproductive and useless work. Welcome to the real world not the Brexit fantasy
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Lef
15/01/2021 17:21:54 2 0
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Well! No doubt UK customs will be doing there bit to protect the country from illicit and substandard products that don't meet our diverging regulations.
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Lef
15/01/2021 17:22:33 0 0
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Sorry 'their' ..... my idiot typo!!!!
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15/01/2021 17:36:51 3 0
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I think the pettiness comes from our side! The deterrents entirely of our own making...
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15/01/2021 17:36:53 0 0
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Yes.
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15/01/2021 18:01:38 4 0
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The EU is protecting the single market. The UK was told what it would mean. Now they begin to understand.
It means they have lost 27 trading partners and it has none left. Each of those 27 trading partners has lost one partner and has 27 left.
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15/01/2021 19:57:18 1 0
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If you're than confident - lets have a vote!
16/01/2021 13:21:59 0 2
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True who would want to go on a day trip to France with a picnic basket next summer (assuming the lock-downs aren't still in place) they'd nick all your meat sandwiches. IF they are starving, they should just let us know, I'm sure we'd send them food parcels.
16/01/2021 14:21:39 2 0
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Remainers were never remoaners; but they are now rejoiners. And with every passing day their cause grows stronger, whilst the Brexiters will weaken as the benefits fail to appear. Here's the kicker: they never existed in the first place, you were conned.
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15/01/2021 10:56:16 8 20
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And the BBC line up another HYS for those people who just can't let go of the fact they lost. You know the type, re-moan about the referee, re-moan about VAR, re-mona about bad luck, re-moan about anything that justifies their re-moaning. And will be the first to vote down this post - tawn :-)
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15/01/2021 11:05:37 6 0
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Unable to comment on the actual issue, the Brexit supporter just goes on a random attack. Because the situation is very hard to defend.
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15/01/2021 11:33:48 2 4
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No, I am able to explain the benefits to someone who is willing to listen, but I am speaking to those with fish stuck in their ears. And they not happy, neither the people nor the fish.
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15/01/2021 11:03:11 170 21
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Brexit supporters strangely gone silent.
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15/01/2021 11:06:35 41 213
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No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
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15/01/2021 11:12:20 42 3
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Please tell me what you won and what your prize is?
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15/01/2021 11:13:02 37 4
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Yep, the fishermen are happy they have happy British fish with nowhere to sell them, haulliers that cant get through customs for all the paperwork, of course this was the paperwork that Redwood the great supporter of BREXIT promised to get rid of, remember him at the tory conference pulling reams of paperwork that was to be got rid of!
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15/01/2021 11:46:01 26 3
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Repetitive rubbish ! Tell that to the Scottish Fishermen, the car manufacturers. This whole Brex**it was sold on a tissue of rubbish and I quote Gove M we shall stay in the single market and customs union, which any European state can be in regardless of whether you are in the EU to to leave with only Belarus for company is like thinking Monsieur Juncker will campaign for UKIP!
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15/01/2021 12:13:23 30 4
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Brexiteers are the angriest "winners", aren't they ?
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15/01/2021 14:42:29 7 0
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what have you won
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15/01/2021 15:44:26 9 0
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'We won'?. What exactly did you win? I assume that you are part of the rich elite, with your money safely hidden offshore, or a disaster capitalist waiting to pickup the pieces from a crashed economy. Maybe you can pick up a Scottish fishery on the cheap.
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15/01/2021 16:52:21 3 0
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And what exactly did you win?
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15/01/2021 17:07:37 6 0
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No you lost we are a smaller irrelevant country with fewer prospects and a laughing stock to the rest of the world. The best outcome is we have strengthend the EU , we are worse off without them as you are finding out. All we can do is make with the mouth but that doesn't count in the real world. Welcome to Ruritainia, poverty, pomp, ridiculousness
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15/01/2021 17:38:04 4 0
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Our "grudge" will be lifelong, thanks, for what you have brought about!
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15/01/2021 17:59:56 3 0
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They are reporting on actual real world problems with trucking. Which part of this doesn't compute?
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Rob
16/01/2021 10:19:31 1 0
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"Get over it" - I'm afraid that is just not going to happen. 16.1 million of us voted to remain in the EU and are very, very unhappy at being forced to leave, especially when the actual economic and financial benefits of leaving remain a mystery. I have yet to see a costed, data and evidence-based report on the economic benefits of leaving the EU. Does it exist? Brexiteers, please explain.
16/01/2021 14:22:46 0 0
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So where are those unicorn laden sunny uplands?? I think you are the one who needs to get over it and realised you were had.
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15/01/2021 11:06:50 264 44
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This is Brexit. It won't get much better. We're stuck with it.

The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
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15/01/2021 11:18:18 56 260
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It will get better, you just need a little patience
Grow up, any admin changes will become insignificant costs once they are used to it and systems have evolved. Most countries aren't inside the EU you know. Removed
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15/01/2021 12:14:49 3 32
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The doomsayer crystal ball again?
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15/01/2021 15:44:21 6 0
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You were warned..
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15/01/2021 18:07:52 0 5
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You worry to much

I do work in the logistics business and the big problem is that the EU companies are not up to speed and we are having to correct all of their mistakes

The UK Gov are in fact doing well much better than the EU who are still playing politics but that was to be expected
15/01/2021 22:21:41 4 0
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Just had an email from Whittards of Chelsea 'Sadly, we have had to suspend shipping to the EU due to complexities and changes brought on by Brexit' - that is business lost to the UK, tax revenue lost to the UK & opportunities for French suppliers of tea, chocolate & coffee to get that business & keep it. Well done Brexiteers. I hope they find a way round before they lose their EU customer base.
16/01/2021 13:17:44 0 0
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I wouldn't worry, Covid lock-downs are so disastrous no one will notice Brexit - unless of course you are blaming the current EU crises as due to Brexit? If so then leavers were right, it is hurting them far more than it hurt us.
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15/01/2021 10:56:16 8 20
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And the BBC line up another HYS for those people who just can't let go of the fact they lost. You know the type, re-moan about the referee, re-moan about VAR, re-mona about bad luck, re-moan about anything that justifies their re-moaning. And will be the first to vote down this post - tawn :-)
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15/01/2021 11:09:16 6 0
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You appear to be doing a lot of moaning.
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15/01/2021 11:00:09 61 14
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Best ask those having difficulties whether they voted for Brexit or not. If the answer is yes, tell em tough, that's what you voted for. Those who didn't vote for Brexit should be compensated for the extra costs incurred.
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15/01/2021 11:09:32 17 78
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Really? I marched for peace. Labour took us to war, I supported our armed forces in the job they had to do. Should I have had a tax rebate because I didn't agree with the war? There was a referendum, the majority voted to leave, get on board or find some EU heritage so you can leave.
39
15/01/2021 11:13:22 18 0
bbc
The House of Commons voted overwhelmingly for the Iraq War, few more enthusiastically than Boris Johnson
44
15/01/2021 11:26:40 14 3
bbc
So much for democratic right to campaign or support for change! The new UK dictatorship
548
15/01/2021 14:52:02 9 3
bbc
oh dear the brexit lies keep coming. will they ever stop ?
687
15/01/2021 15:57:40 10 2
bbc
Only a majority of those who voted, or were allowed to vote. 26% of the population. The referendum was deeply flawed, advisory and riddled with lies, illegal use of data and overspending. What a disgusting comment 'find some EU heritage so you can leave'.
854
15/01/2021 17:00:49 5 1
bbc
Or we can stop buying products from Brexit/ tory supporting companies and areas.
15/01/2021 18:11:29 2 0
bbc
tory
15/01/2021 21:55:35 2 0
bbc
I don’t need to get on board . Financially I can sit back without a care in the world , spend a significant time out of the Uk when I will spend my hard earned cash and come back to the UK when it suits me .
21
15/01/2021 11:10:27 141 6
bbc
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.

Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
25
15/01/2021 11:15:02 14 96
bbc
We left over 12 months ago not a few weeks.
30
15/01/2021 11:17:39 28 2
bbc
Mate, supermarkets can't even ship stuff to Northern Ireland due to the cost and the red tape...

but of course brexiteers knew this was going to happen as they knew what they were voting for, right? this is just what they wanted
31
15/01/2021 11:17:49 0 3
bbc
yeah but ''whose red tape?'' is it?
32
15/01/2021 11:17:52 4 18
bbc
I assume you mean "can't",

ps Boris did not promise anything of the sort, if there was one thing guaranteed was more red tape, the EU use it as a weapon to protect their empire
37
15/01/2021 11:20:04 13 4
bbc
We won haha brexiteers won nothing they are just to stupid to realise
209
15/01/2021 12:54:29 1 2
bbc
do you know if the EU exporters into the UK coping with the extra red tape - cannot see anything being reported about such problems
There are no cuts to red tape and its costs

On trade with non-EU countries. Yes non-EU countries do have a lot of red tape to trade with the EU. But we are not cutting this. New trade deals are all "continuity deals" on the terms agreed as EU members.

On trade with the EU. We are now a non-EU country. So we are faced with the additional red tape that hauliers and fishermen are now experiencing.
520
15/01/2021 14:41:08 1 2
bbc
In fairness they have got rid of the EU red tape to some extent the only problem is they have replaced it with some of there own, and just as it was with EU regulations and directives they are adding a bit.
526
15/01/2021 14:43:52 9 0
bbc
it's not EU red tape , it's good old British red tape, world beating red tape
808
15/01/2021 16:44:15 3 0
bbc
Assume you meant can't? Actually they can and are, by landing it in Denmark and avoiding the UK entirely.
16/01/2021 13:27:31 0 0
bbc
Maybe he should have done as the owners of the other 4 in 5 trucks that got through did, fill in the right forms correctly?
11
15/01/2021 10:59:21 190 18
bbc
"the overarching difficulty is that the system now has inbuilt bureaucracy"

Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?

The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.

Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
22
15/01/2021 11:10:31 19 0
bbc
Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?

Prior to the referendum there where about half a dozen constitutional experts, we now have about 50 million.
17
15/01/2021 11:06:35 41 213
bbc
No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
23
15/01/2021 11:12:20 42 3
bbc
Please tell me what you won and what your prize is?
43
15/01/2021 11:24:27 1 18
bbc
Please see comment below re asking your parents for an explanation :-)
184
15/01/2021 12:47:52 16 1
bbc
We're going to have blue passports! What more do you want?
465
15/01/2021 14:18:13 1 10
bbc
We won the vote so we left & our prize is freedom from the EU. What did you win?
557
15/01/2021 14:40:05 0 5
bbc
One thing that was certainly won was the freedom to move on from the argument...
17
15/01/2021 11:06:35 41 213
bbc
No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
24
15/01/2021 11:13:02 37 4
bbc
Yep, the fishermen are happy they have happy British fish with nowhere to sell them, haulliers that cant get through customs for all the paperwork, of course this was the paperwork that Redwood the great supporter of BREXIT promised to get rid of, remember him at the tory conference pulling reams of paperwork that was to be got rid of!
21
15/01/2021 11:10:27 141 6
bbc
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.

Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
25
15/01/2021 11:15:02 14 96
bbc
We left over 12 months ago not a few weeks.
648
15/01/2021 15:46:12 2 0
bbc
If you wish to be pedantic, at least get your facts right. we did not leave 'over 12 months ago'.
840
15/01/2021 16:55:59 5 0
bbc
but we have only just left the transition period, now is when the muck hits the fan, unfortunately covid is providing a great smokescreen at the moment.
9
15/01/2021 10:57:09 26 8
bbc
Bring on a United Ireland and free the occupied 6 counties. We can then go back to being EU members with none of this.

Brexists can stay in 'Spoons' reading beermats and complaining of Viagra shortages. It is what they voted for.
26
15/01/2021 11:15:51 3 28
bbc
One of the biggest issues with Brexit was accommodating the Good Friday Agreement, it was done with more compromise by us than the EU, they used it as a weapon. You think we would give away our territory just for a minority EU citizens, those in NI (& UK) have citizenship already, so what is your point? Go away.
293
15/01/2021 13:17:27 5 0
bbc
They used og to protect Eire, their borders, and the GFA.
It was not a weapon.
27
15/01/2021 11:16:30 75 7
bbc
And it's going to stay this difficult for the forseeable

but people knew what they voted for so wanted this, sorry you have to feel the consequences
16/01/2021 14:12:09 1 1
bbc
We don't mind, we are being vaccinated. Covid lock-downs are the tsunami that is going to pile in from the shores of Southern Europe. Already starting, which is earlier than predicted.
28
15/01/2021 11:17:09 3 11
bbc
Many of the issues here are caused by France unilaterally closing their border and should not be conflated with ''documentation issues''.

Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
34
15/01/2021 11:18:09 6 2
bbc
A very poor deal
65
15/01/2021 11:19:08 3 1
bbc
Johnson signed the Deal, his mess & Brexit voters’ mess.
78
MDW
15/01/2021 11:46:41 4 1
bbc
If the UK wanted no paperwork, the solution was easy... stay in the EU.

I don't understand why on earth leavers expected brexit to be free of downsides, small, medium, large and catastrophic. As for the upsides, we'll see if any appear in the next few years, although personally I'm doubtful that'll happen.
29
15/01/2021 11:17:30 106 1
bbc
If you thought EU bureaucracy is bad, you don’t remember that traditional British bureaucracy is ten times worse. Our Jobsworths are the best in the world.
15/01/2021 18:08:28 15 1
bbc
World beating !
21
15/01/2021 11:10:27 141 6
bbc
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.

Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
30
15/01/2021 11:17:39 28 2
bbc
Mate, supermarkets can't even ship stuff to Northern Ireland due to the cost and the red tape...

but of course brexiteers knew this was going to happen as they knew what they were voting for, right? this is just what they wanted
21
15/01/2021 11:10:27 141 6
bbc
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.

Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
31
15/01/2021 11:17:49 0 3
bbc
yeah but ''whose red tape?'' is it?
192
15/01/2021 12:50:16 15 0
bbc
It’s the red tape you voted for.
21
15/01/2021 11:10:27 141 6
bbc
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.

Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
32
15/01/2021 11:17:52 4 18
bbc
I assume you mean "can't",

ps Boris did not promise anything of the sort, if there was one thing guaranteed was more red tape, the EU use it as a weapon to protect their empire
33
15/01/2021 11:05:47 10 6
bbc
But our tax havens are free of EU rules.

One’s “£30 food parcel” business is doing well too.
889
15/01/2021 17:19:40 0 0
bbc
Brexit bonus
28
15/01/2021 11:17:09 3 11
bbc
Many of the issues here are caused by France unilaterally closing their border and should not be conflated with ''documentation issues''.

Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
34
15/01/2021 11:18:09 6 2
bbc
A very poor deal
75
15/01/2021 11:44:33 2 4
bbc
Indeed - bad faith by the EU.
15
15/01/2021 11:05:09 41 207
bbc
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
35
15/01/2021 11:18:18 32 0
bbc
Where is the pettiness? The UK wanted to break from the single market and customs union, there by creating a customs border, that must have some level of paperwork, as to covid tests France are doing what the UK is doing, asking for reliable tests which take longer. are saying the UK is wrong in asking for these tests? Or do as I say not as I do arrogance!
18
15/01/2021 11:06:50 264 44
bbc
This is Brexit. It won't get much better. We're stuck with it.

The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
36
15/01/2021 11:18:18 56 260
bbc
It will get better, you just need a little patience
41
15/01/2021 11:23:42 53 6
bbc
Tell that to the businesses that are either now no longer, or the ones about to go under as well, then the unemployed that will follow
159
15/01/2021 12:38:35 42 3
bbc
We were promised sunlit uplands from day 1, where are they exactly?#

And by patience I dont think I have the patience to wait the 50 years + that JRM predicted it would take before we got any benefit.

But you knew what you were voting for right?
187
15/01/2021 12:48:58 25 2
bbc
Either in 50 years, or so. or when we rejoin.
226
15/01/2021 13:00:30 12 0
bbc
Sure, unicorns are just round the corner.
385
15/01/2021 13:44:37 19 0
bbc
Its like watching these American Covid patients denying it exists while in hospital being treated for it....
512
15/01/2021 14:38:47 11 0
bbc
still relying on hope for the best
554
15/01/2021 14:55:51 5 0
bbc
...said an impatient Brexiteer
602
15/01/2021 15:27:13 10 0
bbc
No sunlit uplands then? Just patience and thin gruel.
608
15/01/2021 15:30:20 7 0
bbc
Compare the value of the £ to the $ and €. Getting better implies we will be better off. We will never catch up what we have thrown away.
609
15/01/2021 15:30:37 9 0
bbc
Business will only have a certain amount of patience.
If it becomes clear that additional costs and/or delays tip the balance of profitability away from a UK company towards an EU company then that is where the trade, investment, and jobs will eventually go.
626
15/01/2021 15:39:45 9 1
bbc
Better than what we have lost. I don't think so.
915
15/01/2021 17:29:56 5 0
bbc
a) It won't.
b) And meanwhile...
16/01/2021 11:11:14 1 0
bbc
Tell that to the meat exporters, fishing industry and our haulage/logistics industry.
16/01/2021 21:08:23 0 0
bbc
The Country will be bankrupt before that.
21
15/01/2021 11:10:27 141 6
bbc
Brexit: 'Most difficult week I've had in this job in 20 years'....and you are going to have more difficult weeks and months ahead.

Boris promised that Brexit would get rid of the "EU bureaucracy and red tape", yet here we are a few weeks into independence and the show is all over the floor. Just ask the Scottish fishermen who can ship fresh fish to France because of the red tape.
37
15/01/2021 11:20:04 13 4
bbc
We won haha brexiteers won nothing they are just to stupid to realise
565
15/01/2021 15:06:25 3 0
bbc
The only thing Brexiteers won was the increased cost they will also be paying for EU goods.
13
15/01/2021 11:02:06 2 5
bbc
Oh dear, didn't you understand what Brexit was about, ask your parents, maybe they can explain it to you.
38
15/01/2021 11:20:36 3 1
bbc
Oh yes we now have British fish that are happy, I know we are a nation of animal lovers, but this is a bit stupid even for BREXITEERS!
20
15/01/2021 11:09:32 17 78
bbc
Really? I marched for peace. Labour took us to war, I supported our armed forces in the job they had to do. Should I have had a tax rebate because I didn't agree with the war? There was a referendum, the majority voted to leave, get on board or find some EU heritage so you can leave.
39
15/01/2021 11:13:22 18 0
bbc
The House of Commons voted overwhelmingly for the Iraq War, few more enthusiastically than Boris Johnson
16/01/2021 14:39:23 0 0
bbc
The HoC refused to back Brexit until we kicked large numbers of them out.
40
15/01/2021 11:23:38 19 7
bbc
This is the result of your Brexit vote. You thought you would see less ethnic minorities on the streets by voting out and in the end, none of that is true and instead you will soon be left with empty supermarket shelves. Enjoy your so called sovereignty.
48
15/01/2021 11:30:58 4 14
bbc
'Enjoy your so called sovereignty.'

Thank you, and I hope you do to as soon as you can get over the bitterness.
73
15/01/2021 11:43:53 2 7
bbc
Reducing migration via FOM will help the young and working class. Shelves will not be empty, just like we won't be starving in the streets, an immediate 30% house price drop, 800,000 extra unemployed, no insulin supplies and all the other project fear paranoia.
36
15/01/2021 11:18:18 56 260
bbc
It will get better, you just need a little patience
41
15/01/2021 11:23:42 53 6
bbc
Tell that to the businesses that are either now no longer, or the ones about to go under as well, then the unemployed that will follow
42
15/01/2021 11:23:53 137 10
bbc
Johnson's hasty deal is unravelling already, not that anyone's surprised.
443
15/01/2021 14:09:37 14 89
bbc
NO IT ISN'T - But you clearly can't move on from a clear decision to leave which has now been implemented. The Remain side which seems to include you is still arguing to overturn a democratic decision which puts you in exactly the same camp as Trump denying he lost his election, but I suppose you will be in denial again and say that's completely different.
23
15/01/2021 11:12:20 42 3
bbc
Please tell me what you won and what your prize is?
43
15/01/2021 11:24:27 1 18
bbc
Please see comment below re asking your parents for an explanation :-)
20
15/01/2021 11:09:32 17 78
bbc
Really? I marched for peace. Labour took us to war, I supported our armed forces in the job they had to do. Should I have had a tax rebate because I didn't agree with the war? There was a referendum, the majority voted to leave, get on board or find some EU heritage so you can leave.
44
15/01/2021 11:26:40 14 3
bbc
So much for democratic right to campaign or support for change! The new UK dictatorship
158
15/01/2021 12:38:10 4 7
bbc
The issue is you've been campaigning for change before the democratic vote was even enacted. Perhaps now is the time to see how things pan-out for a while before storming the barricades.
45
15/01/2021 11:14:14 25 6
bbc
This is what happens when you let people vote by showing them selective images of foreigners during the brexit campaigns, who resemble those middle class ethnic minorities who have been the fabric of our socierty. You voted emotionally to get out now live with it. Serves you right.
70
15/01/2021 11:41:54 2 16
bbc
EU is less "ethnic" than the UK and EU countries are generally far more racist.
15
15/01/2021 11:05:09 41 207
bbc
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
46
15/01/2021 11:15:39 36 0
bbc
It's not "pettiness", it's the LAW. They don't want unchecked goods coming into their countries, as we shouldn't if we value our food standards and biodiversity.
197
15/01/2021 12:52:09 3 6
bbc
where are the bbc news stories relating to import problems - surely the Europeans must be experiencing the same problems exporting their products to the UK?
4
15/01/2021 10:53:35 7 5
bbc
Well hopefully things will improve over time as paperwork becomes the norm.
47
15/01/2021 11:17:08 3 0
bbc
We're just waving vehicles in at the moment - wait til the checks are both ways.
40
15/01/2021 11:23:38 19 7
bbc
This is the result of your Brexit vote. You thought you would see less ethnic minorities on the streets by voting out and in the end, none of that is true and instead you will soon be left with empty supermarket shelves. Enjoy your so called sovereignty.
48
15/01/2021 11:30:58 4 14
bbc
'Enjoy your so called sovereignty.'

Thank you, and I hope you do to as soon as you can get over the bitterness.
507
Soo
15/01/2021 14:37:23 2 0
bbc
Pardon my ignorance but: how does one enjoy sovereignty? I can't find any relevance (good or bad) whatsoever in my daily life, but don't want to miss out on the enjoyment either...
15
15/01/2021 11:05:09 41 207
bbc
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
49
15/01/2021 11:33:03 23 0
bbc
What a petty attitude. Grow up.
16
15/01/2021 11:05:37 6 0
bbc
Unable to comment on the actual issue, the Brexit supporter just goes on a random attack. Because the situation is very hard to defend.
50
15/01/2021 11:33:48 2 4
bbc
No, I am able to explain the benefits to someone who is willing to listen, but I am speaking to those with fish stuck in their ears. And they not happy, neither the people nor the fish.
51
15/01/2021 11:34:12 24 4
bbc
This article is another example of the Brexit winners ......

... fighting a losing battle.
16/01/2021 15:31:00 0 0
bbc
https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true

https://albaniandailynews.com/news/italy-s-government-falls-into-chaos-further-complicating-the-covid-response

Or from DW,

"German tabloid Bild on Monday took aim at Chancellor Angela Merkel, suggesting her decision to take the European Union route to distribute the vaccine as a collective had hindered progress."
52
15/01/2021 11:34:25 27 6
bbc
Finally it is dawning on Brexiteers (aka Trumpeteers) that they were lied too. Nothing like a bit of hunger, discomfort and poverty to drive the point home.
67
15/01/2021 11:40:41 3 21
bbc
Except there will be no hunger, discomfort and poverty from Brexit. Aside from that you're bang on!
53
15/01/2021 11:34:45 14 0
bbc
Project Here.
54
15/01/2021 11:34:56 2 2
bbc
Brexiteers all knew exactly what they were voting for...and as they constituted the majority in the referendum...this is democracy in action. UK style.
66
15/01/2021 11:40:37 13 2
bbc
No they didnt, Voting on the principle of leaving the EU is one thing.

Implementation of Brexit is a totally different matter.

This could have been so much easier with a softer Brexit. Its the Tories that have made a dogs dinner of this. The blame lays firmly with them and those who voted for them.
55
15/01/2021 11:35:46 6 6
bbc
Any business hates change - adds complexity, time, sometimes costs. But business adapts
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
58
15/01/2021 11:38:03 4 5
bbc
I suspect the BBC will never revisit these firms.
93
15/01/2021 11:40:11 4 2
bbc
Many have already “got on with it” & left the U.K. for the EU.

Like Moggy, Farage & co.

The companies left will charge us more - for all the hassle.

& the products will end up being tat when we are forced to buy from the US & co.
468
Soo
15/01/2021 14:19:49 1 1
bbc
With statements like "Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes", you can't expect to be taken seriously.
56
15/01/2021 11:36:29 4 7
bbc
Look at it this way.

When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?

No. It takes a little time.

It's the same with these customs issues. It will take time to master but before long it will become routine and second nature.
156
15/01/2021 12:24:38 4 0
bbc
Wouldn't have had to spend excess time, money & energy with customs issues if we hadn't left.

Brexit, the gift that keeps on taking.
463
Soo
15/01/2021 14:17:41 2 0
bbc
That's one option. The other one of course, is to set up shop and transfer your operations closer to the end customer... in order to stay competitive.
2
15/01/2021 10:51:44 324 65
bbc
Brexit was supposed to do away with "EU bureaucracy" and red tape.

Another Brexiter lie.

It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
57
15/01/2021 11:38:00 75 279
bbc
No, that is not the case and it is silly to mix Eurocrats with red tape. I was 100% against federation and accepted leaving would increase red tape, the EU rely on red tape to protect themselves
162
TF
15/01/2021 12:26:57 65 4
bbc
So you voted for making us all worse off. At least thats honesty i suppose
210
15/01/2021 12:54:34 60 2
bbc
That's odd, all we heard from Brexiters for the past few years have been complaints about "EU red tape" and how Brexit would supposedly free us from it....
364
15/01/2021 13:36:05 20 1
bbc
What have you got against 'federation' ?
510
15/01/2021 14:38:14 16 0
bbc
whether you accept it or nor, it's what the quitters said
569
15/01/2021 15:10:20 26 0
bbc
yeah, all well and good for you but do you run a haulage business...thought not, most of you folk that voted for Brexit, don't have to do business in Europe, so didn't have to affect you, but you are willing for it to affect British business working across Europe, as long as you got your sovereignty back(which we never lost in the first place)
606
15/01/2021 15:27:50 13 1
bbc
They lied and lied again who said foods prices would increase, the working time directive would be reviewed and I couldn’t travel freely across Europe. This is no longer my country.
630
15/01/2021 15:41:15 14 0
bbc
What federation? You mean that because all the EU members agree to do *some* things the same, you equate that with *everything*. They say berxiters are thick. The comment by Chippelsea just proves it. I bet before you voted you did zero research on what the EU actually is not what the red tops claim.
638
15/01/2021 15:43:54 10 1
bbc
No, they protect us against corrupt big business...
769
15/01/2021 16:26:37 13 0
bbc
Obviously its not affecting you at this point but it will, you will sooner rather than later you will feel it in your pocket as will everyone. B.J. says he will compensate the fishing industry that again will come from tax payers pockets , just like everything else. As for your E.U. comment there is no one but the likes of you to blame for the mess UK finds itself in.
910
15/01/2021 17:29:00 11 0
bbc
So increased red tape is actually worth what you've gained? And what is that?
952
15/01/2021 17:50:41 3 0
bbc
What federation

Now the uk is more of a federation than the eu is or ever will be

That being said I would be in favour if a fully integrated eu similar to what we have in the uk
15/01/2021 18:04:34 6 0
bbc
So this is your fault!
BG
15/01/2021 19:24:38 10 0
bbc
50% of red tape is imposed by the UK. You have red tape when exporting everywhere. That now includes the EU. This is an absolute nightmare. I've also had 2 weeks of hell
15/01/2021 22:33:57 2 0
bbc
'silly', that's me convinced.
16/01/2021 13:44:48 1 0
bbc
That's very good of you. I bet you are the one who goes out to dinner with mates and has the most expensive items on the menu, then insists that the bill is shared equally. In essence, your decision costs us all dearly.
Thanks
55
15/01/2021 11:35:46 6 6
bbc
Any business hates change - adds complexity, time, sometimes costs. But business adapts
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
58
15/01/2021 11:38:03 4 5
bbc
I suspect the BBC will never revisit these firms.
467
15/01/2021 14:19:39 0 0
bbc
Some of them won't be here in a few months.
7
15/01/2021 10:55:23 233 42
bbc
Well wasn't Brexit a silly thing to do?
59
15/01/2021 11:38:35 48 227
bbc
No it was a good thing, breath in, feel the freedom
92
b
15/01/2021 11:57:49 21 0
bbc
Just did, feels pretty much the same as 2016,
164
15/01/2021 12:40:03 34 0
bbc
Convince me please! Tell me how does this "freedom" feel!
I mean other than the facts described in the article.
168
TF
15/01/2021 12:28:02 25 0
bbc
Yes, we were so enslaved before, youre so right.
204
15/01/2021 12:54:06 20 0
bbc
And feed on the sovereignty.
232
15/01/2021 13:03:35 15 0
bbc
Unless you live near the Farage garage.

Then go back to filling in those forms.
372
15/01/2021 13:38:48 22 0
bbc
"breath in, feel the freedom"
I can only assume that you're being sarcastic?
513
15/01/2021 14:39:05 2 1
bbc
So much freedom...
514
15/01/2021 14:39:13 4 1
bbc
what frreedom ?
581
15/01/2021 15:16:33 9 0
bbc
That smell of rotting fish when we "breathe in"! ??
587
15/01/2021 15:20:44 9 0
bbc
The freedom for the Tories to dismantle employees rights and bring back bee killing sprays you mean?! ??
820
15/01/2021 16:48:59 5 0
bbc
It's the stench of rotting fish!
843
15/01/2021 16:56:42 5 0
bbc
Rather a silly comment to make during a national lockdown where nobody has much taste of freedom...
870
15/01/2021 17:06:28 2 0
bbc
Think of all those happy fish!
883
15/01/2021 17:13:46 7 0
bbc
hahahahahahahah, freedom!, we never lost it in the first place you div
886
15/01/2021 17:17:05 8 0
bbc
The freedom to freely travel and work and live in most of Europe. That freedom?
890
Lef
15/01/2021 17:20:02 6 0
bbc
Not if you're in Kent. Just breathe the fumes in the toilet of England!
930
15/01/2021 17:36:19 1 1
bbc
Shut up otherwise I'll kick your Zimmer frame away.
968
15/01/2021 17:57:13 6 0
bbc
Seriously ? You had your freedom before. Name 1 thing that's better other than your addled sense of independence.
Removed
15/01/2021 19:53:52 1 0
bbc
When I breath in I smell not freedom but rule from England. Federal UK please,
16/01/2021 00:05:54 6 0
bbc
Hmm, no. I'm not feeling it. A year ago I was free to work and if I chose to do so, to live on mainland Europe. I was free to buy at a reasonable price the produce of a large trading bloc, and sell my produce there. Not anymore. Some small minded people decided that that was worth sacrificing for the sake of a few disaster capitalists and tax dodgers, in the name of a vaccuous "sovereignty".
16/01/2021 00:16:54 6 0
bbc
"No it was a good thing, breath in, feel the freedom"

Freedom doesn't put food on the table.
16/01/2021 02:37:14 6 0
bbc
We never lost our freedom.
Haven't you grasped that those claims were just propaganda to get your vote?
16/01/2021 08:13:20 4 0
bbc
Stupid nebulous default response that is never nailed down
So just explain what it is you can do now that you couldn't do before
Just how did they stunt your ambition?
Rob
16/01/2021 10:15:55 3 0
bbc
Er... would you please explain the "freedom" you mention? How EXACTLY are we any freer?
16/01/2021 13:19:33 0 3
bbc
and look at the vaccination and vaccine news, then remember all the remoaners moaning when we pulled out of the EU's vaccine program. Which they seem to have forgotten.
60
15/01/2021 11:38:50 128 7
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Rob London
11:17

"Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be."

You expect the EU to follow the UK in not wanting to ensure it's regulations are adhered to?

Why should the EU do that? UK knew the consequences of leaving the EU.
16/01/2021 13:39:00 1 3
bbc
Keith this username is old hat, try one of your other 1000 or so.
13
15/01/2021 11:02:06 2 5
bbc
Oh dear, didn't you understand what Brexit was about, ask your parents, maybe they can explain it to you.
61
15/01/2021 11:38:56 3 0
bbc
Answer the question, assuming you can...
1
15/01/2021 10:50:09 72 12
bbc
Too late moaning about it now. Its done.

Suck it up. It is what you voted for.
62
15/01/2021 11:39:10 17 115
bbc
Well said! suck it up re-moaners
109
15/01/2021 12:13:51 14 3
bbc
Why don't you grow up ???
539
15/01/2021 14:48:51 6 0
bbc
No you suck it up it's your pile of shi
15/01/2021 18:10:48 0 0
bbc
Milky drink ?
5
15/01/2021 10:54:14 167 18
bbc
Chaos after just 2 weeks. Multiple bankruptcies looming, and UK gov hasn't got a clue!
63
15/01/2021 11:40:23 30 170
bbc
Oh dear. Doom! Gloom! Project Fear!!

Do you work for the BBC by any chance?
263
15/01/2021 13:10:23 8 2
bbc
By the way, the NHS is due 700mil so far this year : any sign of that?
529
15/01/2021 14:44:48 7 0
bbc
are you a Mr Man ? you seem to be Mr thick as sh
15/01/2021 18:06:42 1 0
bbc
LOL - do you ?
15/01/2021 22:18:15 0 0
bbc
And do you work for the Tory party by any chance? Busy night at HQ manning the chat rooms.
15/01/2021 22:36:48 1 0
bbc
No he has a brain, chippers.
Rob
16/01/2021 10:20:15 0 0
bbc
No, but it really IS chaos after two weeks, isn't it.
16/01/2021 14:43:23 0 0
bbc
Do you work for a disaster capitalist hedge fund by chance???
64
15/01/2021 11:40:25 19 0
bbc
We have already been told the red tape is here to stay. Sure business may become more used to it in time but it’s a hassle they can probably do without. Maybe John Deadwood will tell us to start growing our own pineapples and bananas ??
16/01/2021 15:43:12 0 0
bbc
Don't worry EU red tape isn't exactly flavour of the month in Germany at present, once the covid lock-down devastation hits, they'll be less inclined to upset the UK.
28
15/01/2021 11:17:09 3 11
bbc
Many of the issues here are caused by France unilaterally closing their border and should not be conflated with ''documentation issues''.

Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
65
15/01/2021 11:19:08 3 1
bbc
Johnson signed the Deal, his mess & Brexit voters’ mess.
54
15/01/2021 11:34:56 2 2
bbc
Brexiteers all knew exactly what they were voting for...and as they constituted the majority in the referendum...this is democracy in action. UK style.
66
15/01/2021 11:40:37 13 2
bbc
No they didnt, Voting on the principle of leaving the EU is one thing.

Implementation of Brexit is a totally different matter.

This could have been so much easier with a softer Brexit. Its the Tories that have made a dogs dinner of this. The blame lays firmly with them and those who voted for them.
80
15/01/2021 11:47:43 1 4
bbc
May offered a softer Brexit, remainer MPs wouldn't vote for it.
52
15/01/2021 11:34:25 27 6
bbc
Finally it is dawning on Brexiteers (aka Trumpeteers) that they were lied too. Nothing like a bit of hunger, discomfort and poverty to drive the point home.
67
15/01/2021 11:40:41 3 21
bbc
Except there will be no hunger, discomfort and poverty from Brexit. Aside from that you're bang on!
280
15/01/2021 13:15:34 3 1
bbc
Unemployment, low wages and fled businesses will leas to poverty and hunger.
Admittedly, not all due to Brexit.
10 years of Tory misrule and austerity gave us a high baseline.
16/01/2021 09:20:11 0 0
bbc
So you accept you were lied to and it doesn't bother you the slightest ???
15
15/01/2021 11:05:09 41 207
bbc
And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
68
15/01/2021 11:41:19 36 2
bbc
As I understand it we are subjected to the same import / export regs that any third country that deals with the EU has to put up with. But somehow brexiteers were convinced we would be 'special'. Now they see we aren't...it is the petty EU that is the problem.

Brexit is the problem. And those that voted for it should own it.
3
MVP
15/01/2021 10:52:37 229 30
bbc
Brexit isn't going very well at the moment is it?

We can't say we were not warned
69
15/01/2021 11:41:24 40 232
bbc
Looks good to me so far, just needs bedding in for a couple of months, then it will be peaches.
151
15/01/2021 12:15:50 31 4
bbc
Blah blah blah blah, more denying & lies from the leave crowd.
244
15/01/2021 13:06:10 17 1
bbc
After all, we were fine when we were living in caves and we clearly survived it, so we may as well go back to that.
275
15/01/2021 13:14:09 29 2
bbc
I assume you making a joke? Unless you have no idea what is going on Borats no Brexit deal! No valid driving license at the end of 2021 for Europe, no sky go, passports being stamped, at least 2% extra costs on import shipments. These are just a few changes. FOR WHAT! The Brexit gift that keeps giving
442
15/01/2021 14:09:35 19 0
bbc
Can we hold you to account after that then? Where do we send our compensation claims to, because I'm not going to bear the cost of the stupidity of the 17.4m. You lot voted for this chaos, you lot should take responsibility and pay the price.
479
15/01/2021 14:25:31 5 0
bbc
I assume nice Italian Peaches, One of the Highlight`s of my trip to Sardinia.
515
15/01/2021 14:39:45 7 0
bbc
can you live without food for months ?
739
15/01/2021 16:15:45 5 0
bbc
Depends what your expectations are - if you really think it's looking good so far it sounds like your definition of peaches may not be up to much
919
15/01/2021 17:30:36 1 0
bbc
..with no cream...
967
15/01/2021 17:56:35 5 0
bbc
Because you don't have to lift a feckless finger in any case. You know what they say, if you ain't in the game nobody cares what you think.
15/01/2021 18:05:41 4 0
bbc
LOL - tory liar.
15/01/2021 18:36:53 3 0
bbc
but the peaches may be a tad overripe from the addtional customs delays getting into the country.
16/01/2021 03:06:33 2 0
bbc
lost in spaaaaaace
Rob
16/01/2021 10:13:41 2 0
bbc
I'm afraid you are very naive if you think these woes are some sort of teething problems. This increased bureaucracy and the resulting delays were predicted even before the 'leave' vote 4 years ago and were an argument against leaving. Welcome to the 'new normal' - delays which will not improve. I look forward to your "peaches" time...
16/01/2021 10:41:00 1 0
bbc
Peaches, more like rotten apples.??
16/01/2021 13:18:41 0 1
bbc
and from whichever country in the world we choose to buy them without EU interference.
45
15/01/2021 11:14:14 25 6
bbc
This is what happens when you let people vote by showing them selective images of foreigners during the brexit campaigns, who resemble those middle class ethnic minorities who have been the fabric of our socierty. You voted emotionally to get out now live with it. Serves you right.
70
15/01/2021 11:41:54 2 16
bbc
EU is less "ethnic" than the UK and EU countries are generally far more racist.
305
15/01/2021 13:19:16 1 2
bbc
Which ones have you lived in?
Or visited?
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15/01/2021 11:42:10 64 8
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Gimli Cymru
11:36

"When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?"

Picking apples in one field is pretty similar to picking apples in another field I imagine.

If, however, you are referring to professionals, one doesn't generally employ an epidemiologist as a trade negotiator ....

.. even if they would do a better job than the useless Tory.
76
15/01/2021 11:44:33 18 3
bbc
Haha, good reply.
16/01/2021 11:40:22 0 0
bbc
I would replace the UK cabinet with apple pickers, they are so out of their depth it’s embarrassing?
16/01/2021 14:35:25 0 0
bbc
Pity, as the epidemiologists we listen to is useless, below is in 2005 - odd he hasn't repeated that last month when Bird Flu hit the UK & Europe. Talking of Europe, it is a pity, as their Vaccine program is in chaos their experts might be needing alternative jobs if the Germans get their way, mind you Germany is in crisis now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/sep/30/birdflu.jamessturcke
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15/01/2021 11:43:50 3 2
bbc
I have argued for a long time that bureaucracy stifles growth, you can make processes simple but still maintain standards and high quality. We seem to love to impose bureaucracy in our systems and policies with very little thought on how this would work in the real world. We then have to employ 'experts' to deal with over bureaucratic and complex systems. Less bureaucracy equals more growth.
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Soo
15/01/2021 14:14:13 1 0
bbc
Please elaborate: Are you talking about the "bureaucratic monster a.k.a. EU" or the current Brexit / border bureaucratic nightmare?
40
15/01/2021 11:23:38 19 7
bbc
This is the result of your Brexit vote. You thought you would see less ethnic minorities on the streets by voting out and in the end, none of that is true and instead you will soon be left with empty supermarket shelves. Enjoy your so called sovereignty.
73
15/01/2021 11:43:53 2 7
bbc
Reducing migration via FOM will help the young and working class. Shelves will not be empty, just like we won't be starving in the streets, an immediate 30% house price drop, 800,000 extra unemployed, no insulin supplies and all the other project fear paranoia.
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b
15/01/2021 12:06:56 7 1
bbc
"Reducing migration via FOM will help the young and working class"

Help them how, exactly? Gives them more opportunities for fruit picking? Can't think offhand of any other ways that it will help them.
315
15/01/2021 13:21:31 1 0
bbc
For the young, a 30% house drop would be a benefit of brexit.
The only one.
74
15/01/2021 11:44:29 262 24
bbc
Boris GOT BREXIT DONE. The hauliers have got done; the supermarkets have got done. Industry and Tariffs have got done. The new Irish border has got done. The DUP for all their money grabbing have got done and maybe soon the breakaway of Scotland will get done. The fishermen have well and truly got done. UK tourists on holiday will get done by having to join the long queues. WE ALL GOT DONE.
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Soo
15/01/2021 14:11:33 19 72
bbc
It happens a lot around the world. Where the UK is unique - Her Majesties Subjects actually having democratically voted for this! It's "the wish of the people"...
491
15/01/2021 14:29:27 23 0
bbc
Brilliant summary...I think the fishermen got well done.
893
15/01/2021 17:20:48 15 0
bbc
Have just seen an update from HMRC. The BREXIT BONUS is going to cost £ 7 BILLION a year in additional paperwork alone. And that's before the rest of the losses are considered. Yep. WE HAVE WELL AND TRUELY BEEN DONE. There was no Big Red Bus money for the NHS. Now it really needs it. All this lot in charge, BJ and Co. will give is more budget cuts. What a mess you've gotten us into.
921
15/01/2021 17:31:09 9 0
bbc
Well said! Sums it up...
986
15/01/2021 18:03:20 8 0
bbc
I note your response. Even the Economy minister in N Ireland ( who is DUP & pro Brexit) has had very serious concerns re the current situation. We were very badly prepared for this situation thanks to the clowns in Westminster who betrayed this once great nation. Not the first time the Tories have come back empty from Europe. Staying in the EU would have prevented all this stupidity.
16/01/2021 13:16:28 0 0
bbc
UK tourists not holidaying abroad, particularly in Spain, got Spain done too, the EU has bigger problems, and nitpicking on the scale they are is going to backfire as quickly as their failure on the vaccine front, though perhaps with less consequences within the EU.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/new-poverty-hits-europe?minutetv=true
16/01/2021 17:57:40 0 0
bbc
If you voted leave you should have done your homework. What out come was expected bt these voters?
34
15/01/2021 11:18:09 6 2
bbc
A very poor deal
75
15/01/2021 11:44:33 2 4
bbc
Indeed - bad faith by the EU.
71
15/01/2021 11:42:10 64 8
bbc
Gimli Cymru
11:36

"When someone takes a new job in a different field. Are they an expert in that job straight away?"

Picking apples in one field is pretty similar to picking apples in another field I imagine.

If, however, you are referring to professionals, one doesn't generally employ an epidemiologist as a trade negotiator ....

.. even if they would do a better job than the useless Tory.
76
15/01/2021 11:44:33 18 3
bbc
Haha, good reply.
84
15/01/2021 11:50:12 6 2
bbc
Clearly not - I was sarcastically pointing out how stupid your comment was.
16/01/2021 14:36:01 0 0
bbc
Only if you are as dumb and ill informed as Keith. ;-)
17
15/01/2021 11:06:35 41 213
bbc
No just bored with your repetitive rubbish, especially as we won, it is just today, I feel a bit tired of the BBC and you lot holding onto a grudge and not moving on. Get over it.
77
15/01/2021 11:46:01 26 3
bbc
Repetitive rubbish ! Tell that to the Scottish Fishermen, the car manufacturers. This whole Brex**it was sold on a tissue of rubbish and I quote Gove M we shall stay in the single market and customs union, which any European state can be in regardless of whether you are in the EU to to leave with only Belarus for company is like thinking Monsieur Juncker will campaign for UKIP!
28
15/01/2021 11:17:09 3 11
bbc
Many of the issues here are caused by France unilaterally closing their border and should not be conflated with ''documentation issues''.

Lets also bear in mind, its not The UK imposing rules on its exporters and hauliers. The UK would much prefer no paperwork - but alas it was not to be.
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MDW
15/01/2021 11:46:41 4 1
bbc
If the UK wanted no paperwork, the solution was easy... stay in the EU.

I don't understand why on earth leavers expected brexit to be free of downsides, small, medium, large and catastrophic. As for the upsides, we'll see if any appear in the next few years, although personally I'm doubtful that'll happen.
18
15/01/2021 11:06:50 264 44
bbc
This is Brexit. It won't get much better. We're stuck with it.

The cost will be staggering. All this extra admin, red tape and bureaucracy will strangle our economy.
Grow up, any admin changes will become insignificant costs once they are used to it and systems have evolved. Most countries aren't inside the EU you know. Removed
141
15/01/2021 12:14:30 51 4
bbc
You lot forced this crap on EVERYONE, you grow up and admit what you did - vote for the liars.
194
15/01/2021 12:51:08 42 0
bbc
As a 72 yo grown up, I beg to disagree.
We may grt used to them, but the rules will bring extra costs permanently.
229
15/01/2021 13:01:37 17 0
bbc
That must be why countries all around the world constantly agree trade deals to avoid those admin barriers.
279
15/01/2021 13:15:25 23 0
bbc
"Most countries aren't inside the EU you know."

No, but most countries haven't chosen to leave a free-trade agreement with their closest trading partners. That's something only people with no business-sense would choose to do.
66
15/01/2021 11:40:37 13 2
bbc
No they didnt, Voting on the principle of leaving the EU is one thing.

Implementation of Brexit is a totally different matter.

This could have been so much easier with a softer Brexit. Its the Tories that have made a dogs dinner of this. The blame lays firmly with them and those who voted for them.
80
15/01/2021 11:47:43 1 4
bbc
May offered a softer Brexit, remainer MPs wouldn't vote for it.
88
15/01/2021 11:53:55 3 2
bbc
May didn't offer any trade deal. The only one on offer was the one that Johnson negotiated.
264
15/01/2021 13:10:37 0 1
bbc
Indeed - the remainer MPs were still intent on overthrowing democracy at the time.
81
15/01/2021 11:49:11 39 8
bbc
Shortage of drivers

"In the first week of January, we couldn't find a single European sub-contractor prepared to come to the UK,"

With no FoM and a nation with a newly found reputation for xenophobia, hardly a surprise.
87
15/01/2021 11:52:34 7 9
bbc
"We've had issues when we've been refused entry, but the paperwork is right." - Xenaphobia?
112
15/01/2021 12:15:24 3 4
bbc
No reputation for xenophobia at all - in fact one of the least racist countries in Europe.
11
15/01/2021 10:59:21 190 18
bbc
"the overarching difficulty is that the system now has inbuilt bureaucracy"

Brexiteers, the onus is really on you to finally show some benefits of brexit. Surely you can't be so naive that you think brexit will last, if there are no visible benefits while there are rather obvious problems everywhere?

The clock is ticking, public opinion moves towards rejoin.

Brexit benefits, anyone?
ANYTHING?
82
15/01/2021 11:50:06 4 40
bbc
There are lots of brexit benefits and you have been repeatedly told them - just in your petulance you like to deny them each and every time. Instead you jump on a few teething issues as PROOF you were right and we should have remained. It's laughable to watch and you guys think you're the intelligent ones!
484
15/01/2021 14:28:03 9 0
bbc
I missed them could you restate a few please?
83
15/01/2021 11:50:06 4 8
bbc
Who knew the French would keep changing the rules said no one ever.
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b
15/01/2021 12:10:49 2 1
bbc
The regulator for UK has also said that the same test won't be approved for mass testing at schools when they go back because it's not reliable enough. Can we blame that on France as well?
76
15/01/2021 11:44:33 18 3
bbc
Haha, good reply.
84
15/01/2021 11:50:12 6 2
bbc
Clearly not - I was sarcastically pointing out how stupid your comment was.
7
15/01/2021 10:55:23 233 42
bbc
Well wasn't Brexit a silly thing to do?
85
15/01/2021 11:51:23 15 0
bbc
On second thoughts lets not go there, tis a silly place
86
15/01/2021 11:51:28 6 13
bbc
More BBC click-bait for the anti-Brexit mob.
94
15/01/2021 12:00:39 11 1
bbc
It's just the real world taking over from the government hot air and hype.
104
15/01/2021 12:10:58 2 1
bbc
Hopefully you will get your click-bait chance when the brexit becomes a success.
81
15/01/2021 11:49:11 39 8
bbc
Shortage of drivers

"In the first week of January, we couldn't find a single European sub-contractor prepared to come to the UK,"

With no FoM and a nation with a newly found reputation for xenophobia, hardly a surprise.
87
15/01/2021 11:52:34 7 9
bbc
"We've had issues when we've been refused entry, but the paperwork is right." - Xenaphobia?
89
15/01/2021 11:56:39 3 4
bbc
Why are you quoting a different section of this article, versus the quote that I made?
268
15/01/2021 13:12:24 1 0
bbc
Understood that was refustal of entry to our ports, not on the other side?
The documentation is checked before ghey can enter the port areas.
16/01/2021 10:18:31 0 0
bbc
"Xenaphobia"

What do you have against the noble Warrior Princess?
80
15/01/2021 11:47:43 1 4
bbc
May offered a softer Brexit, remainer MPs wouldn't vote for it.
88
15/01/2021 11:53:55 3 2
bbc
May didn't offer any trade deal. The only one on offer was the one that Johnson negotiated.
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Soo
15/01/2021 14:27:28 1 0
bbc
While you are of course literally correct, there is one correction I have: May's WA included the whole UK remaining part of the CU, much like only NI is now (a.k.a. The Backstop). That precondition, would have allowed for a very different FTA negotiations outcome.
87
15/01/2021 11:52:34 7 9
bbc
"We've had issues when we've been refused entry, but the paperwork is right." - Xenaphobia?
89
15/01/2021 11:56:39 3 4
bbc
Why are you quoting a different section of this article, versus the quote that I made?
2
15/01/2021 10:51:44 324 65
bbc
Brexit was supposed to do away with "EU bureaucracy" and red tape.

Another Brexiter lie.

It's just made it more difficult and costly for UK businesses to trade.
90
15/01/2021 11:56:44 44 7
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It's a pity that these employers didn't all speak up and warn their employees before the vote what brexit would probably mean for them.
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15/01/2021 12:15:41 16 67
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You mean having to deal with different paperwork and being more meticulous about the goods they are carrying ... sounds like Brexit is a bonus and open border s is a licence for low standard food stuffs as no one is checking as well as smuggling.
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15/01/2021 14:17:30 5 15
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Firstly Employers should not influence Employees voting. Also Brexit was won by those trapped in Welfare dependency by a Labour government. They had 2 choices Stay = No change or Leave and step into the unknown. To many had nothing to lose. Society left them to rot and they voted to bring us all closer to them.
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15/01/2021 14:22:31 11 0
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They did and they did not listen...project fear!
15/01/2021 19:52:35 1 2
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What makes you think that employers didn't vote for Brexit?
16/01/2021 13:04:11 0 2
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Like the Mafia (rife in Italy still according to recent news) and its 'Offers you can't refuse' how any Remainer can come on here and blame Brexit for the EU Mafia's protection racket having been dumped and then support the EU's 'punishment beating' despite an agreement is beyond belief. Have you people no shame?
16/01/2021 13:42:59 1 0
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Sadly, that would have been dismissed as "Project Fear". Sometimes people have to experience these things to believe them.
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15/01/2021 11:05:09 41 207
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And that is what Remaoners are holding out for is it, people to come to their senses and re-join? My view is the pettiness the EU have shown because they want to deter others has been quite stunning and will actually convince people more about our direction being right for us.
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15/01/2021 11:56:48 26 3
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Damn right rejoin as soon as possible!
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15/01/2021 11:38:35 48 227
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No it was a good thing, breath in, feel the freedom
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15/01/2021 11:57:49 21 0
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Just did, feels pretty much the same as 2016,
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15/01/2021 11:35:46 6 6
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Any business hates change - adds complexity, time, sometimes costs. But business adapts
Some hauliers will stop sending their lorries through England & Wales to get to Ireland - great, less traffic on our roads.
Governments will listen to feedback & simplify processes
I suspect if the BBC revisit these firms in a few months time they'll say we're getting on with it now.
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15/01/2021 11:40:11 4 2
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Many have already “got on with it” & left the U.K. for the EU.

Like Moggy, Farage & co.

The companies left will charge us more - for all the hassle.

& the products will end up being tat when we are forced to buy from the US & co.
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15/01/2021 12:10:07 2 0
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Don't forget Stanley Johnson.
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15/01/2021 12:29:47 2 1
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No "many" haven't.
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15/01/2021 11:51:28 6 13
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More BBC click-bait for the anti-Brexit mob.
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15/01/2021 12:00:39 11 1
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It's just the real world taking over from the government hot air and hype.
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15/01/2021 12:01:35 99 12
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Regardless of Brexit chaos, the Conservatives are working to a tried and tested formula supported by their friends in the media...someone else is to blame for any shambles and Boris Johnson and his cabinet chums wash their hands of it! Tory leader says 'F..k business!
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15/01/2021 14:50:33 27 2
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There's always a flurry of Brexit articles in the Daily Express about imminent Irexit, Frexit, Italexit, and so on. Always handy if you're up for a bit of a depressing read, and don't forget the comments. It illustrates the aim of Brexiteers was never this so-called liberation, but the destruction of a perceived evil.
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15/01/2021 12:02:56 6 3
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I am not a Brexiteer. Those who voted for Brexit thought that the extra inconvenience and costs associated with trading with Europe would be the negative effect of Brexit and that ending freedom of movement (and the associated strain on housing) would be the positive effect.
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15/01/2021 12:08:55 3 14
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Indeed - I was a remain voter but the bitter petulance and extreme idiocy of the remoaner tribe has been amazing to watch. A few teething problems at the start are entirely immaterial in the scheme of things.
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15/01/2021 12:03:07 2 4
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I have never really understood why we export produce and buy back the same produce from another country. Sounds like a wasted journey?
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15/01/2021 12:24:21 5 0
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When you say "we", who are you talking about? You're not doing this, are you?
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15/01/2021 10:54:14 167 18
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Chaos after just 2 weeks. Multiple bankruptcies looming, and UK gov hasn't got a clue!
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15/01/2021 12:05:30 4 4
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hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj
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15/01/2021 11:43:53 2 7
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Reducing migration via FOM will help the young and working class. Shelves will not be empty, just like we won't be starving in the streets, an immediate 30% house price drop, 800,000 extra unemployed, no insulin supplies and all the other project fear paranoia.
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15/01/2021 12:06:56 7 1
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"Reducing migration via FOM will help the young and working class"

Help them how, exactly? Gives them more opportunities for fruit picking? Can't think offhand of any other ways that it will help them.
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15/01/2021 12:40:55 1 2
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Basic supply and demand economics - the expansion of the reserve pool of labour via FOM to far poorer countries can doing else but suppress the bargaining power of labour in favour of capital. You'll note that even the Guardian printed articles about business complaining they were having pay more after the vote and immigration slowed. Let alone accommodation costs.
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15/01/2021 12:42:50 1 1
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FYI your bigotry that EU migrants are only good for fruit picking is a little distasteful to say the least. Many do a wide range of jobs in the UK and the ability for business to import a fresh keen worker willing to underhouse themselves for the opportunity is the source of wage stagnation in the face a a supposedly low unemployment rate.
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15/01/2021 10:53:35 7 5
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Well hopefully things will improve over time as paperwork becomes the norm.
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15/01/2021 12:07:05 2 2
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It always does, the moaning minnies like to jump on this so it validates their petulant stance against brexit, but the reality is that things will soon streamline and systems adjust.