Brexit: Ministers accused of fishing compensation U-turn
14/01/2021
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On Wednesday the PM said businesses hit by post-Brexit problems would receive support.
Why do they keep u-turning then ? Are they gaslighting us ?
Why are Tories so huffy when people criticise Boris ?
Haven't they heard of democracy ?
Why are Tories so huffy when people criticise Boris ?
Haven't they heard of democracy ?
The government could just do it properly and competently first time. Or is that too much to ask?
we have a government?
i thought no 10's cat was doing it
you mean eton educated people are doing this?
guess being to thick to go is a good thing then
i thought no 10's cat was doing it
you mean eton educated people are doing this?
guess being to thick to go is a good thing then
Well you fishermen that voted "Leave". More fool you to have believed the nonsense peddled to you on a big red bus by Gove and by Farage with his River Thames boat gimmick. Stop complaining. You voted for it. You got what you wished for. Own it.
Nothing wrong with complaining about unnecessary delays caused by your pals in the French port authorities. Own that.
The vast majority of fisherman voted to leave the EU despite repeated warnings on red tape, import/export delays and the potential effects on trading with its largest customer.
I'm sorry BUT there is no excuse for not having cash reserves to cope - fishing and food retail has not been affected in any meaningful way by Covid; indeed, demand has grown.
Zero excuses and zero sympathy!
I'm sorry BUT there is no excuse for not having cash reserves to cope - fishing and food retail has not been affected in any meaningful way by Covid; indeed, demand has grown.
Zero excuses and zero sympathy!
You clearly know nothing about the fishing industry with your dumb remarks so keep your Remoaner nose out
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I have every sympathy for fishermen promised one thing and given another. Cash reserves? Share fishermen? Grow up Mr Timbers.
It is not just the fishermen's catch that's having problems, almost every business is having problems with the new rules, its what happens when you have no advance warning.
As some have said already the vote was to leave, remember all the warnings prior to the vote which were laughed off as project fear, it seems some people never learn or have short memories regarding conservative policies
As some have said already the vote was to leave, remember all the warnings prior to the vote which were laughed off as project fear, it seems some people never learn or have short memories regarding conservative policies
Conservatives are finished in the coastal communities. Totally betrayed the industry then and are continuing to do so now. The Fisheries Minister never even read the deal as she was 'too busy' sorting out her kiddies nativity trail!! Incompetent buffoons, especially that mop haired clown
GOOD - maybe those communities will actually remember this ? Given quitters I very much doubt it.
"Addressing the environment minister in the House of Commons, Liberal Democrat MP Alistair Carmichael said boats were "tied up in harbour"
The hypocrisy of the Lib-Dems who would keep the entire fleet under the subjugation of the EU...
The hypocrisy of the Lib-Dems who would keep the entire fleet under the subjugation of the EU...
While in the EU the boats could catch fish, get a good price and make a good living. Now they can catch the fish but cannot sell it at a price that makes a profit. What's better being in the EU and having a good income or being out of the EU and facing bankruptcy. I know what I would pick.
No you don't! This situation is quite simply exactly what tou were all warned would happen - 'Project Fear', you called it. Now we've been proved right and you have been proved wrong. We told you so, you won, get over it and own it.
The vast majority of fisherman voted to leave the EU despite repeated warnings on red tape, import/export delays and the potential effects on trading with its largest customer.
I'm sorry BUT there is no excuse for not having cash reserves to cope - fishing and food retail has not been affected in any meaningful way by Covid; indeed, demand has grown.
Zero excuses and zero sympathy!
I'm sorry BUT there is no excuse for not having cash reserves to cope - fishing and food retail has not been affected in any meaningful way by Covid; indeed, demand has grown.
Zero excuses and zero sympathy!
Awww, triggered snowflake ?
Go on then, enlighten us with your 'wisdom' instead of second rate insults.
Ooh, a triggered little quitling, how novel!
Fishing is a touchy subject for betrayed Brexiteers but you need to try and come up with logic not abuse.
Can it, cretin.
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You don't seem to know a great deal yourself, you'll be asking 'Remoaners' to buy your fish next............?
Everyone needs to stop complaining. Its over now.
Just suck it up. We got what we voted for.
Just suck it up. We got what we voted for.
It hasn't been over for 40 years and won't be for the next 40. Plenty more to come between the UK and the EU. Enjoy.
Reform! Rejoin! Rejoice!
You got what you voted for. Don't hang that chain round my neck. You voted for it .You own it. You sort it out.
so we havnt left then?
"monitoring the situation" and needed to get a "good picture", what? The government knew, that as a 3rd party, the fishermen would face a lot of bureaucracy. They should be supplying inspection support and online support with the paperwork. The UK as part of the EU was after all instrumental in writing these rules, to protect local businesses
Exactly. It is not the industry at fault here it in the Govt who are failing to provide the means necessary to facilitate exports e.g. The trucks available for certification from 6am but Vets don't start work until 9am, It is a 24/7 operation we have here!
Here we go again. The Govt decides a policy, and people complain. The Govt sticks to its guns and is accused of intransigence and not listening. Or, the Govt is persuaded to change its mind, and is accused of a u-turn or climbdown.
It's totally ridiculous!
It's totally ridiculous!
Of course not, democracy was used in 2016, it's been back in its box since then.
"monitoring the situation" and needed to get a "good picture", what? The government knew, that as a 3rd party, the fishermen would face a lot of bureaucracy. They should be supplying inspection support and online support with the paperwork. The UK as part of the EU was after all instrumental in writing these rules, to protect local businesses
On Wednesday Boris Johnson said he understood the "temporary frustration" of the fishing industry and promised to provide compensation.
Environment Secretary George Eustice told the Commons on Thursday that he was "looking closely" at the issue.
No. "I am arranging compensation now" should of been the response
Environment Secretary George Eustice told the Commons on Thursday that he was "looking closely" at the issue.
No. "I am arranging compensation now" should of been the response
Nonsense. Are they telling us that coastal communities did not know what they were voting for in 2016?
Also will this compensation count as State Aid?
Also will this compensation count as State Aid?
We were not voting for the pile of crap we got nor the govt failing to have the necessary systems in place to deal efficiently with the new red tape
They clearly didn't know what they were voting for! We told you so!
Didn't we just get the liberty to support our industries as we see fit, in the stop-breathing-down-our-necks trade deal?
It is taxation and should only be levied on those who voted for it.
Of course the Xmas/New Year holidays and this terrible Covid19 had nothing to do with this ,it's all about Brexit.
So if those products require so much legislation why was it being ignored before Brexit.
None of us like change,but in a few weeks when the "dust settles" I'm sure all will be well,nevertheless surely someone should have seen the problems in advance.
So if those products require so much legislation why was it being ignored before Brexit.
None of us like change,but in a few weeks when the "dust settles" I'm sure all will be well,nevertheless surely someone should have seen the problems in advance.
How can you foresee the problems when the terms weren't known until Christmas?
Oh, the remainers did - we told you so!
When running a business you not only have to have a market to sell it in. Fishing's biggest market was the EU. They knew this when they went in their droves to vote for Brexit. But were told they would have a mountain more fish to catch, and the EU would buy their fish no matter what happened. The Mountain of extra fish turned out to be a molehill, and the EU don't want the their fish.
I think people in the EU still want the fish, but with the resulting higher prices as a consequence of Brexit, demand will not be as it once was.
You really don't get this do you? The Eu want our fish. We are providing that fish. It is then lying rotting because the govt IT systems, HMRC, the Vets etc etc are not doing their jobs!!!
Plus no deal with Norway so no fishing in their waters.
Here we go again. The Govt decides a policy, and people complain. The Govt sticks to its guns and is accused of intransigence and not listening. Or, the Govt is persuaded to change its mind, and is accused of a u-turn or climbdown.
It's totally ridiculous!
It's totally ridiculous!
democracy and the Tories (and Labour)
oil and water
oil and water
SNP went out of their way to frustrate all Brexit negotiations, undermining the UK negotiating position and, by default, that of all Scots. Maybe, had they stood up for the fishing industry when something could be done about it, they'd be in a position to criticize.
But they didn't, so they're not.
But they didn't, so they're not.
The Tories went out of their way to exclude all other voices from the Brexit negotiations except their own. It is no-ones fault except the Tories and those who fell for their lies.
The Brexit negotiations were sabotaged by the Extreme Right Group as part of their coup on the Tory Party.
No you don't! This situation is quite simply exactly what tou were all warned would happen - 'Project Fear', you called it. Now we've been proved right and you have been proved wrong. We told you so, you won, get over it and own it.
Most fishermen voted for Brexit. We are told by Brexiters that they knew what they were voting for, so fishermen are getting what they wanted.
There is no pleasing some folk.
There is no pleasing some folk.
What is the point of UK fishermen getting a higher share of the seas if they end up tied up anyway.
As half the UK catch is landed by foreign quota owners anyway, the money goes abroad, as do the fish. The giant Dutch trawler which owns a massive share of our UK quota was built abroad in a foreign ship yard, has a foreign crew and lands catches abroad. The UKs contribution is only our fish.
As half the UK catch is landed by foreign quota owners anyway, the money goes abroad, as do the fish. The giant Dutch trawler which owns a massive share of our UK quota was built abroad in a foreign ship yard, has a foreign crew and lands catches abroad. The UKs contribution is only our fish.
True! But their livelihood is at danger. Fisherfolk may have thought that border controls returning to times before EU freedom of movement would not be a problem. They were sold this rubbish and others didn't want it, which means in 2021 Joe Bloggs is left looking at a fly-tip wondering who could do such a thing whilst the perpetrator hands im a bin liner and tells him to "put your back in to it".
Poor fishermen........ You got what you voted for......... what's you whinge ????
100% correct . Getting exactly what they voted for .Need to stop winging and get on with it .
The fishermen did not "vote" for the incompetence of the gov and the negotiating team - who thought that allowing the EU a six month settling-in period was ok but didn't think it should reciprocal? Idiotic!
So as well as brexit making me poorer alongside everyone else my taxes will be used to bail out a group who overwhelmingly voted for this nonsense.
no sympathy, the turkeys who voted for Christmas are starting to see what they have done......
It could be worse Sir Patrick, you could be living in Northern Ireland!
Yes you were. Everyone was told about the extra bureaucracy that would be involved with leaving the SM and CU.
Odd, you were warned at the time ?
what were you voting for ? Anyone with a brain cell knew distribution to the EU would be problematic, did you not understand ?
I thought you knew what you were voting for. Please enlighten us if that’s not the case.
No, every single 'leaver' knew Exactly What the voted for in 2016 - a 'leave' claim daily ever since ;)
You made your own bed and now you and everyone that did not make it has to lie in it.
what did you expect from a proven liar who chose leave as it offerred him a chance of PM job?
You voted for an illusion that was never going to happen. This is entirely your fault; you voted for Brexit and got it. Now you expect someone to bail you out. Time to live in the real world.
The red tape is the EU checking they're not importing dodgy food from a third country. That's what brexit means, get used to it.
Clearly up to the supplier to prove they are complying with the EU's rules.
Clearly up to the supplier to prove they are complying with the EU's rules.
The tories have lied. Hardly a revelation.
Boris not delivering on a promise?
I am so shocked!
I am so shocked!
The cons always trick - no compensation.
When running a business you not only have to have a market to sell it in. Fishing's biggest market was the EU. They knew this when they went in their droves to vote for Brexit. But were told they would have a mountain more fish to catch, and the EU would buy their fish no matter what happened. The Mountain of extra fish turned out to be a molehill, and the EU don't want the their fish.
So you sell less fish for less money per kilo so you loose loose. Brexit was always going to be bad for the fishing industry in Scotland in particular. History tells us that when you loose your markets then you suffer; you only have to look at the Scottish herring fishery in the 1920's and 1930's. Boom to bust not because of lack of fish but because they lost their markets in Germany &Russia.
When running a business you not only have to have a market to sell it in. Fishing's biggest market was the EU. They knew this when they went in their droves to vote for Brexit. But were told they would have a mountain more fish to catch, and the EU would buy their fish no matter what happened. The Mountain of extra fish turned out to be a molehill, and the EU don't want the their fish.
To be fair it doesn't take much foresight to see that this would happen.
"It is then lying rotting because the govt IT systems, HMRC, the Vets etc etc are not doing their jobs!!!"
Has the fishing industry provided funding for all of this extra work that is required?
Has the fishing industry provided funding for all of this extra work that is required?
You were warned before the referendum that there would be problems, but Leave spokespeople shouted FAKE NEWS and you believed them. Gove even said don't believe experts. These problems are not caused by the guys at the sharp end not doing their job but by choosing to leave the biggest single market in the world and then signing up to an extremely bad deal.
SNP went out of their way to frustrate all Brexit negotiations, undermining the UK negotiating position and, by default, that of all Scots. Maybe, had they stood up for the fishing industry when something could be done about it, they'd be in a position to criticize.
But they didn't, so they're not.
But they didn't, so they're not.
You really don't get this do you? The Eu want our fish. We are providing that fish. It is then lying rotting because the govt IT systems, HMRC, the Vets etc etc are not doing their jobs!!!
SNP went out of their way to frustrate all Brexit negotiations, undermining the UK negotiating position and, by default, that of all Scots. Maybe, had they stood up for the fishing industry when something could be done about it, they'd be in a position to criticize.
But they didn't, so they're not.
But they didn't, so they're not.
Mr Russell should have been working with the UK government since he took up his post as the SG Minister. He should have been facilitating the change for Scottish businesses. He seems to have had time to write a timetable for the next independence referendum between airing grievance after grievance about the principle of Brexit; that was finalised in 2016. Independence was finalised in 2014.
Yeah yeah yeah, it's all the fault of the Scottish government. Nothing to do with the Wastemonster government who caused all this mess.
We were not voting for the pile of crap we got nor the govt failing to have the necessary systems in place to deal efficiently with the new red tape
True
We were not voting for the pile of crap we got nor the govt failing to have the necessary systems in place to deal efficiently with the new red tape
Yes but we kinda expected the things outwith our control eg Customs, Govt IT, HMRC , Food Standards to be able to provide the service they are supposed to!!!!
Apparently there is a lot of new red tape and it is more difficult to sell fish into europe now.
Nobody saw that coming.
Nobody saw that coming.
According to the report the delays are in France and Scotland. Quelle surprise
I can distinctly recall remarking last summer that if UK fishermen got a larger portion of the catch out of Brexit they will find it very difficult to sell what they were already catching. Sadly, they were chasing an illusion that more supply meant more money. I feel sorry for them, they have been exploited and abused.
You clearly know nothing about the fishing industry with your dumb remarks so keep your Remoaner nose out
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You wouldn't say that to my face and walk away matey
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Oh come on! Not even Boris believes a single word he utters.
SNP went out of their way to frustrate all Brexit negotiations, undermining the UK negotiating position and, by default, that of all Scots. Maybe, had they stood up for the fishing industry when something could be done about it, they'd be in a position to criticize.
But they didn't, so they're not.
But they didn't, so they're not.
So many quick to jump on the slightest issues following Brexit - ooh its not working, look we told you so (14 days in) - lets see what its like 14 months in then more rational level headed conversations can be had.
Fishers - you have some nerve - you get to catch more fish, you're getting grants, you wanted out of the CFP & still not good enough - so selfish. Want your fishcake & eat it do you?
Fishers - you have some nerve - you get to catch more fish, you're getting grants, you wanted out of the CFP & still not good enough - so selfish. Want your fishcake & eat it do you?
Brexit will be put down for years. Lots more 'told you so' to come.
We have to remember,Brexit is a result of a NATIONAL vote,so no point "downing" many of our politicians who were only doing what the majority wanted.
In any divorce generally both sides lose something,and it's often not amicable,guess the same here.
In any divorce generally both sides lose something,and it's often not amicable,guess the same here.
Mr Russell should have been working with the UK government since he took up his post as the SG Minister. He should have been facilitating the change for Scottish businesses. He seems to have had time to write a timetable for the next independence referendum between airing grievance after grievance about the principle of Brexit; that was finalised in 2016. Independence was finalised in 2014.
SNP went out of their way to frustrate all Brexit negotiations, undermining the UK negotiating position and, by default, that of all Scots. Maybe, had they stood up for the fishing industry when something could be done about it, they'd be in a position to criticize.
But they didn't, so they're not.
But they didn't, so they're not.
Of course the Xmas/New Year holidays and this terrible Covid19 had nothing to do with this ,it's all about Brexit.
So if those products require so much legislation why was it being ignored before Brexit.
None of us like change,but in a few weeks when the "dust settles" I'm sure all will be well,nevertheless surely someone should have seen the problems in advance.
So if those products require so much legislation why was it being ignored before Brexit.
None of us like change,but in a few weeks when the "dust settles" I'm sure all will be well,nevertheless surely someone should have seen the problems in advance.
You clearly know nothing about the fishing industry with your dumb remarks so keep your Remoaner nose out
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Remoaning Labour supporters out in force again today I see.
Tissue?
Tissue?
I think it is the fishermen who need the tissues, but you probably don`t care about them
Nothing demonstrates the poverty of the Tory mindset more clearly than the infantile assumption that every critic of their beloved party is pro-Labour.
56% of us who voted, had more gumption than to vote for the spiv party. So if that facile assumption were true, Corbyn would be PM.
56% of us who voted, had more gumption than to vote for the spiv party. So if that facile assumption were true, Corbyn would be PM.
Down boy, have a biscuit - jammie dodger ?
Of course the Xmas/New Year holidays and this terrible Covid19 had nothing to do with this ,it's all about Brexit.
So if those products require so much legislation why was it being ignored before Brexit.
None of us like change,but in a few weeks when the "dust settles" I'm sure all will be well,nevertheless surely someone should have seen the problems in advance.
So if those products require so much legislation why was it being ignored before Brexit.
None of us like change,but in a few weeks when the "dust settles" I'm sure all will be well,nevertheless surely someone should have seen the problems in advance.
I hope this is the end of having Tory MP's in the NE of Scotland. Fooled once is excusable, but not twice.
To anyone with eyes 'fooled once' is not excusable.
If a politician says something, more fool the believers, these people are pathological liars, they need to be, to be where they are.
Compensation payouts can involve up to six to eight departments, each one is there to figure out ways not to pay it.
I can well imagine some mp's, sitting with a satisfied smug expression on their faces, swilling their vintage brandy's, at the way things are going.
Compensation payouts can involve up to six to eight departments, each one is there to figure out ways not to pay it.
I can well imagine some mp's, sitting with a satisfied smug expression on their faces, swilling their vintage brandy's, at the way things are going.
When running a business you not only have to have a market to sell it in. Fishing's biggest market was the EU. They knew this when they went in their droves to vote for Brexit. But were told they would have a mountain more fish to catch, and the EU would buy their fish no matter what happened. The Mountain of extra fish turned out to be a molehill, and the EU don't want the their fish.
Can you tell me where I can buy their shellfish as I would happily buy plenty of it as would other Scottish consumers. We never see fish in our supermarkets like they do in Europe. Please don't tell me we don't eat enough of it! Make it affordable here to buy and your sales will increase. Get the supermarkets on board. I'm waiting!!
You clearly know nothing about the fishing industry with your dumb remarks so keep your Remoaner nose out
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Late as ever.
They wriggle they twist they turn they writhe but they will never say they were mistaken.
Yes, that's Remain losers for you. Always whining on about it.
Yes, the writhing, squirming Brexit mind. They know it, we know it.
The UK Fishermen were thrown under the bus along with the DUP.
What did they expect?
Boris to live up to his promises?????
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What did they expect?
Boris to live up to his promises?????
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According to remainers, the fishing industry was so tiny financially, as to be virtually insignificant. So why are they even bothering to comment on it here?
Rubbish ... in just over 5 years the UK can exclude ALL EU trawlers if it chooses. Then you will moan the UK is being soooooooo unfair if it did.
As for this non story ... government minister investigates the possibility of compensation.
Cleary you and the Labour morons are happy to write a cheque under the Tory gov then complain about due diligence.
As for this non story ... government minister investigates the possibility of compensation.
Cleary you and the Labour morons are happy to write a cheque under the Tory gov then complain about due diligence.
Three themsro under the bus
If Boris had given them all the fish in the sea they couldn’t have sold it once they had hacked off the EU... and of course the paperwork and delays would still
Mean it would not be fresh quality so no one wants it so much?
It was predictable.. but they still voted for it
If Boris had given them all the fish in the sea they couldn’t have sold it once they had hacked off the EU... and of course the paperwork and delays would still
Mean it would not be fresh quality so no one wants it so much?
It was predictable.. but they still voted for it
DUP?
lol, the religious fruitcakes, who think the earth is 5000 years old and flat.
lol, the religious fruitcakes, who think the earth is 5000 years old and flat.
Clearly commenting on what you don’t understand.
The reason UK fishers have no money is because they earn a very small percentage of the value of the catch.
The value is added by the buyers(largely foreign), the processors and the supermarkets.
Same with the farmers. Same all over the world.
The main product of prime producers is poverty. Middle men get the Mercs.
The reason UK fishers have no money is because they earn a very small percentage of the value of the catch.
The value is added by the buyers(largely foreign), the processors and the supermarkets.
Same with the farmers. Same all over the world.
The main product of prime producers is poverty. Middle men get the Mercs.
Remoaning Labour supporters out in force again today I see.
Tissue?
Tissue?
You clearly know nothing about the fishing industry with your dumb remarks so keep your Remoaner nose out
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Remoaning Labour supporters out in force again today I see.
Tissue?
Tissue?
Can you tell me where I can buy their shellfish as I would happily buy plenty of it as would other Scottish consumers. We never see fish in our supermarkets like they do in Europe. Please don't tell me we don't eat enough of it! Make it affordable here to buy and your sales will increase. Get the supermarkets on board. I'm waiting!!
You are right, there are very few left. It makes me mad that we can't by things like langustine so readily as they do abroad. My sister in Gibraltar can buy a 1kg box of frozen Scottish Langustine for £8. Why do we have to pay through the nose for our own produce?
Everyone just needs to see the big picture.
we are all getting levelled up from this.
we are all getting levelled up from this.
I don't recall levelling up including difficulty buying things from abroad because of the new import duty rules.
It's absolute BS.
It's absolute BS.
I take it you are being sarcastic?
So many quick to jump on the slightest issues following Brexit - ooh its not working, look we told you so (14 days in) - lets see what its like 14 months in then more rational level headed conversations can be had.
Fishers - you have some nerve - you get to catch more fish, you're getting grants, you wanted out of the CFP & still not good enough - so selfish. Want your fishcake & eat it do you?
Fishers - you have some nerve - you get to catch more fish, you're getting grants, you wanted out of the CFP & still not good enough - so selfish. Want your fishcake & eat it do you?
You really don't get this do you? The Eu want our fish. We are providing that fish. It is then lying rotting because the govt IT systems, HMRC, the Vets etc etc are not doing their jobs!!!
Well it is not provided free is it ?
- "The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs did not know about the promise to compensate the fishing industry before Mr Johnson mentioned it on Wednesday."
Brexit means Brexit? Brexit means making it up as you go along more like.
Brexit means Brexit? Brexit means making it up as you go along more like.
Remoaning Labour supporters out in force again today I see.
Tissue?
Tissue?
Remoaning Labour supporters out in force again today I see.
Tissue?
Tissue?
Remoaning Labour supporters out in force again today I see.
Tissue?
Tissue?
Brexit has been a mistake. We should have stayed in the Customs Union.
the option to stay in the customs union would have been nice. the way that any form of soft brexit was thrown away the day after the vote was quite scary
We never voted to leave, the tories just changed the rules and decided to do it anyway, biggest electoral fraud in UK history.
Yes we should have stayed in the Customs Union.
It is a shame that HoC voted against that deal when Mrs. May proposed her deal.
It is a shame that HoC voted against that deal when Mrs. May proposed her deal.
Everyone one knows that the future of the fishing industry was just another Brexit red herring. It was never about fish; all about securing the Conservative elite in power and ending immigration from eastern Europe. It is all so lame, predictable and manipulatory.
It was about democracy and sovereignty. Read up.
But, according to JRM, at least now the herring is no longer red. Now it is proudly red, white and blue!
How can we be rid of that embarrasment?
How can we be rid of that embarrasment?
immigration from the EU is much less than other regions. In 2019, estimated net migration of non-EU citizens was 282,000, 5 times what it was from the the EU. (a) immigration from India alone in 2019 was 37k students and 57k workers. (b)
Freedom of movement - both ways was not the problem the Tories made it to be
source The Migration Observatory, at the University of Oxford (a), and Gov.uk (b)
Freedom of movement - both ways was not the problem the Tories made it to be
source The Migration Observatory, at the University of Oxford (a), and Gov.uk (b)
Here we go again. The Govt decides a policy, and people complain. The Govt sticks to its guns and is accused of intransigence and not listening. Or, the Govt is persuaded to change its mind, and is accused of a u-turn or climbdown.
It's totally ridiculous!
It's totally ridiculous!
Yes, it is too much to ask. They had a sink school education and degrees in non-subjects like PPE
If there is no Scotland, why did Tony Blair have to transfer 6000 sq miles of Scottish North Sea to England?
Fishermen are like farmers always "crying wolf" but most of them I know are fairly well off in comparison to many of us. Big posh cars and houses the envy of most of us.
I've imported/exported to and from countries all over the world. If your paperwork is OK you have no problems. Far to many hauliers don't have a clue and until they do so they will have problems. Hell some of them can't even fill in a form to get into Kent never mind the EU.
As for costing a fortune - once you work out what to do it becomes a pro forma and apart from inspection costs costs are min
As for costing a fortune - once you work out what to do it becomes a pro forma and apart from inspection costs costs are min
Brexiteers assured everyone they all voted for No Deal in 2016 and wanted it to get our fishing and sovereignty back.
To maintain their illusion of being winners they now have to dance on the head of a pin to justify stabbing NI in the back with a border and the fishermen with EU Quota Retention and Transport Delays making it uneconomic.
So dance & make us laugh!
To maintain their illusion of being winners they now have to dance on the head of a pin to justify stabbing NI in the back with a border and the fishermen with EU Quota Retention and Transport Delays making it uneconomic.
So dance & make us laugh!
Early days yet for the Referendum losers to get all sagacious. It's like they are desperate or something.
Not quite correct. In 2016 they assured everyone a deal would be easy because they needed us more than we need them. They said they voted for no deal in 2018, "WTO no problem".
When push came to shove in 2020 it turned out a bad deal is better than no deal.
When push came to shove in 2020 it turned out a bad deal is better than no deal.
Can you tell me where I can buy their shellfish as I would happily buy plenty of it as would other Scottish consumers. We never see fish in our supermarkets like they do in Europe. Please don't tell me we don't eat enough of it! Make it affordable here to buy and your sales will increase. Get the supermarkets on board. I'm waiting!!
If a politician says something, more fool the believers, these people are pathological liars, they need to be, to be where they are.
Compensation payouts can involve up to six to eight departments, each one is there to figure out ways not to pay it.
I can well imagine some mp's, sitting with a satisfied smug expression on their faces, swilling their vintage brandy's, at the way things are going.
Compensation payouts can involve up to six to eight departments, each one is there to figure out ways not to pay it.
I can well imagine some mp's, sitting with a satisfied smug expression on their faces, swilling their vintage brandy's, at the way things are going.
How can you foresee the problems when the terms weren't known until Christmas?
I've imported/exported to and from countries all over the world. If your paperwork is OK you have no problems. Far to many hauliers don't have a clue and until they do so they will have problems. Hell some of them can't even fill in a form to get into Kent never mind the EU.
As for costing a fortune - once you work out what to do it becomes a pro forma and apart from inspection costs costs are min
As for costing a fortune - once you work out what to do it becomes a pro forma and apart from inspection costs costs are min
BBC Scotland have sat on this story for two weeks, while facilitating D. Ross nightly whines and smears on its news program, no questions, no interptions.
No Sane person believes a word Johnson utters regarding Scotland, but we pay a big whack to the BBC for honest journalism. It's time we had a return for our money.
No Sane person believes a word Johnson utters regarding Scotland, but we pay a big whack to the BBC for honest journalism. It's time we had a return for our money.
Don't pay & watch the rubbish then.
I had a good laugh just after the yesterday evening BBC Scotland news. There appeared 'Mr. Anonymous' saying, "I'm Donald Ross and I'm the Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party".
Not even a whistle, flag, yellow or red card in sight.
Not even a whistle, flag, yellow or red card in sight.
No such thing!
That sounds very good value - for some reason, in the UK, food costs so much more. I too would eat more fish if it was cheaper, especially the Langoustine - or scampi as it is known more popularly in the UK.
It is annoying that many of the fishmongers have closed down here in the UK.
It is annoying that many of the fishmongers have closed down here in the UK.
On Wednesday Boris Johnson said he understood the "temporary frustration" of the fishing industry and promised to provide compensation.
Environment Secretary George Eustice told the Commons on Thursday that he was "looking closely" at the issue.
Labour said No 10 appeared to be backtracking on the PM's commitment.
Heck ... the government is just checking details whilst labour says just pay them
Environment Secretary George Eustice told the Commons on Thursday that he was "looking closely" at the issue.
Labour said No 10 appeared to be backtracking on the PM's commitment.
Heck ... the government is just checking details whilst labour says just pay them
Scotland’s fishing industry lobbied by a few rich quota owners said Brexit & the end of percieved EU influence over UK waters would be a sea of opportunity.
But many fishermen on the west coast and islands of Scotland’s inshore waters who opposed brexit find It’s a sea of disaster for the many.
Tory Fisheries minister didnt read Brexit deal because she was at nativity event.
Tories Lie.
But many fishermen on the west coast and islands of Scotland’s inshore waters who opposed brexit find It’s a sea of disaster for the many.
Tory Fisheries minister didnt read Brexit deal because she was at nativity event.
Tories Lie.
BBC Scotland have sat on this story for two weeks, while facilitating D. Ross nightly whines and smears on its news program, no questions, no interptions.
No Sane person believes a word Johnson utters regarding Scotland, but we pay a big whack to the BBC for honest journalism. It's time we had a return for our money.
No Sane person believes a word Johnson utters regarding Scotland, but we pay a big whack to the BBC for honest journalism. It's time we had a return for our money.
- "Earlier this month, the Scottish Seafood Association said exports to the EU were being hit by 'red tape' delays in Scotland and France."
Perhaps it's time for British people to develop a taste for some of that fish, such as mackerel or herring, in other words to go beyond the somewhat tasteless battered fried stuff.
Perhaps it's time for British people to develop a taste for some of that fish, such as mackerel or herring, in other words to go beyond the somewhat tasteless battered fried stuff.
Being unable to sell to the EU could reduce prices in the UK.
How many fishermen could make a living out of it is another question.
How many fishermen could make a living out of it is another question.
Rejoice, rejoice there's a rumour that Boris has managed to find his elbow. If he can just tell the difference between this and his ars* the country might stand a chance.
Bozo and his U turns, if he does any more he will be spinning.
Bozo and his U turns, if he does any more he will be spinning.
If we could persuade him to wear a special suit made of magnets and stand in an appropriately designed coil setup, the resulting dynamo power generated from his constant u-turns would power the country.
It's totally ridiculous!