Brexit will increase food supply chain costs, warn business groups
13/01/2021 | news | business | 1,774
More red tape after the EU trade deal will raise food and manufacturing costs, business groups tell MPs.
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13/01/2021 17:03:55 245 50
bbc
Hard to imagine that we could have more red tape but that's what Brexit means!

Expensive red tape and blue passports.

Nice one Nige.
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13/01/2021 17:54:38 158 13
bbc
Yup, people calling for no trade deals etc while not understanding how tariffs work. Here's a hint, its not the EU or UK government that pay the tariff, it's the customer
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13/01/2021 18:24:54 2 31
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Yawn.
447
13/01/2021 19:19:14 6 4
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Boris gave EU the fish
611
13/01/2021 19:51:14 2 12
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EU has never been cheap for food
14/01/2021 01:21:43 0 0
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The ultimate solution is to re-join Single Market, similar to Switzerland.
14/01/2021 08:14:48 0 0
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Boris and his Brexiteers have now got what they wished for they will just have to live with it. Project reality is here + lots more red tape swathes of it, just the start of things to come all very predictable
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13/01/2021 17:04:05 55 10
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Yeah but, sovrenti is so worth it!
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13/01/2021 17:10:19 20 13
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What is sovrenti? Isn't that Italian??
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13/01/2021 18:41:42 3 9
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Sovereignty (I think that is what you mean) is not only worth it but will bring increased prosperity.
I thought Remainers were always claiming to be better educated than Leave voters?
477
13/01/2021 19:28:41 2 1
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have you missed the UK vaccine roll out?
13/01/2021 22:13:42 1 0
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Yes we are drowning in sovereignty its Knee deep round us what a result.HAHAHA.
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13/01/2021 17:04:32 8 19
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Give us a break BBC! Another predictable HYS on Brexit doom and gloom. How do these companies trade with the rest of the world?!!!
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13/01/2021 17:08:21 13 1
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In a nutshell - if at all possible i don't - it was very easy to trade with EU, sorting imports / exports to US for example is a right pain!
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13/01/2021 17:10:08 6 0
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Why do you think they mostly trade with the EU? it WAS more profitable.
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13/01/2021 19:48:05 0 1
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EU is not cheap for food
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13/01/2021 17:04:49 6 26
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Short term pain, long term gain.
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13/01/2021 17:07:14 22 4
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Whats the long term gain? I don't see how being outside of the biggest trading block in the world which is on our doorstep not 1000's of miles away is going to be a gain?
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13/01/2021 17:09:24 7 1
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There is no gain, things would only go back to NORMAL IF we eventually make deals equivalent to what we had as a member of the EU.

That is incredibly unlikely, so now its just damage control while we are increasingly excluded from supply chains.

But anyone who bothered to listen knew this would happen, so its no surprise to anyone with a few braincells to rub together.
14/01/2021 09:40:51 0 0
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"Short term pain, long term gain"
or
Off the Brexiter's forked tongue, slips trite unqualified unquantified grandad-nonsense
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13/01/2021 17:05:56 250 32
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As an importer / exporter i am starting to feel the pain and see the delays. Those who aren't in the same field may say 'who cares' which seems to be the blinkered 'everyman for himself' nationalist attitude of some. However all I and other business are going to do is pass this cost on so everyone ends up paying in some form or another!
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mc
13/01/2021 17:59:53 66 187
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if you pass on the costs then we might decide not to buy your product so br careful
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13/01/2021 19:00:53 9 45
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Pass it on, no problem. Those that eat the fresh out of season junk coming over in lorries can afford it without noticing. Double the price of strawberries etc. No one cares.
446
13/01/2021 19:18:44 7 14
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Don't import as much..buy local British produce = less co2 i say
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13/01/2021 19:46:05 7 23
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Source/manufacture in the UK then. Your gravy train has stopped.
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13/01/2021 19:51:32 21 1
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The majority of people voted for BREXIT in 2016 beating the 'remoaners'. They obviously knew about all of this and clearly checked that they were in a great position to pay for it all as well.... Didn't they?????
610
13/01/2021 19:50:51 4 18
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EU has never been cheap for food
691
13/01/2021 20:22:27 7 20
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How long have you had to prepare for this and source other potential alternatives to European produce? You now have a golden opportunity to buy produce from around the world with no restrictions from the EU, use it, grow your business, innovate, don't just follow the standard gravy chain....
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13/01/2021 20:20:56 0 19
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I hope you can sleep at night, passing on higher costs to your customers, causing them to starve to death.
829
13/01/2021 21:07:20 5 4
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I support my local Farm Shop, where I can buy local produce !
950
13/01/2021 21:45:40 2 0
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Everything is going swimmingly. The cabinet office says so!
991
13/01/2021 21:58:38 2 1
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This is only temporary, because new. After a few weeks it will be easy. The real Brexit still has to come. When we remove eu rules on worker protection, environmental protection, removing of on rules for GMO food. Removing on food protections. Lets make the UK an economic powerhouse! We are free again! Make the UK great again!
13/01/2021 22:53:03 1 0
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Me too, I'm in exactly the same boat (no pun intended).
13/01/2021 23:15:12 1 2
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Who cares
13/01/2021 23:50:36 1 2
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Small price to pay for freedom from the EU though most would say
14/01/2021 00:56:00 0 0
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You're not an importer though, you're a student pretending again.
14/01/2021 01:03:22 0 3
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I voted leave, but I wish I hadn't now. I feel so stupid and lied to, I had no idea of the consequences.

(I can also lie through my teeth)

I import from Asia, some of my fixed costs have now lowered which mean I will be able to pass on savings to my customers.

Brexit win, win win.
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13/01/2021 17:06:21 9 14
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Fuel price increases drive up the cost of shipping, not sure what the BBC's point is here. There are many ways the costs rise and fall in business, they are called running costs.
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13/01/2021 17:09:32 20 3
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They're not talking about running costs, they are talking about an additional cost, a cost that wasn't there on 31st December.
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13/01/2021 17:07:11 8 19
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Once these firms get used to the paperwork it will not cause any real problem. The spokesman is probably giving the very worst case scenario?
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13/01/2021 17:18:05 6 1
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Probably, but maybe he is giving the best case scenario
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13/01/2021 17:04:49 6 26
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Short term pain, long term gain.
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13/01/2021 17:07:14 22 4
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Whats the long term gain? I don't see how being outside of the biggest trading block in the world which is on our doorstep not 1000's of miles away is going to be a gain?
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13/01/2021 17:18:49 1 4
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If things cost more, people will waste less, we will manage like we used to, we will have children that are fit again, alcohol will become unreachable, illegal drug markets will fail. You just need a bit of vision.
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13/01/2021 17:25:45 2 1
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Those who voted for it don’t know and don’t care .
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13/01/2021 19:50:21 1 0
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long term gain is to stop buying EU. EU has never been cheap for food
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13/01/2021 17:07:53 102 10
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No S*** Sherlock.

Was obvious years ago, but not debated because it was part of a non existing plan, with questions suppressed by Project Fear...
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13/01/2021 18:22:10 85 16
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Exactly - what was touted as "Project Fear" is coming home to roost as Project Reality - and it bites.
458
13/01/2021 19:21:40 2 7
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project fear said property prices would collapse in UK
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13/01/2021 17:07:59 17 15
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Of course you could always buy from a local, grower/farmer. A win for the local economy and for the environment.
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13/01/2021 17:11:00 38 3
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This country cannot supply the required amount of food for this nation, we need to import.
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13/01/2021 17:17:10 4 1
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Are you Chris Grayling in disguise? I hope not for your sake, he thought you could build houses all over the country to get out of recession and grow more food to provide more food.
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13/01/2021 17:17:29 7 1
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or move your business to the EU like they are doing in the fish processing industry. Watch what happens to UK car manufacturing when they discontinue the current models and move fully to electric!
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13/01/2021 17:18:53 2 0
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In a lot of cases you will have to, of course everyone knows lower competition reduces prices ... right?
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13/01/2021 17:21:21 10 0
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I'm looking forward to tasting Yorkshire oranges. Or Devon tomatoes. Scottish grapes anyone?
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Pip
13/01/2021 17:49:25 6 0
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If they had someone to pick it, but they haven't, another Brexit bonus.........?
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13/01/2021 17:04:32 8 19
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Give us a break BBC! Another predictable HYS on Brexit doom and gloom. How do these companies trade with the rest of the world?!!!
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13/01/2021 17:08:21 13 1
bbc
In a nutshell - if at all possible i don't - it was very easy to trade with EU, sorting imports / exports to US for example is a right pain!
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13/01/2021 17:08:27 14 17
bbc
A one off inflation hit followed by good producers finding ways to cut costs which will involve sourcing supply and basing production facilities in the UK.
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13/01/2021 17:17:48 9 0
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In an ideal world yeh, but do you know how expensive production is in the UK?
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13/01/2021 17:19:31 6 0
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If that was the optimal solution, why didn't they do it while the UK was in the EU?
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Pip
13/01/2021 17:46:47 4 0
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Dream on Brexiteer..........?
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des
13/01/2021 17:08:45 162 22
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So basically it’s a tariff free shit deal.....
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13/01/2021 17:30:46 48 204
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Apart from cheaper mortgages, lower inflation, cheaper fuel, higher minimum wages. What has voting Brexit ever done for us?
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13/01/2021 18:28:38 1 40
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It's a good deal and there are bound to be teethining troubles. Most trade is flowing well. The problems will be sorted out.

So basically you are wrong, and your choice of language is poor.
452
13/01/2021 19:19:30 4 1
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Boris gave EU the fish too
612
13/01/2021 19:51:43 0 3
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UK will slowly move away from buying EU produce
700
13/01/2021 20:24:38 0 0
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It's not even tariff free on all commodities unless goods are of British origin, or EU for flows into the country.
712
13/01/2021 20:16:39 1 0
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What else would you expect from De Pfeffel the clown.
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13/01/2021 21:53:55 0 0
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Its not even tariff free.
14/01/2021 06:56:22 0 0
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Its funny how you can swear and its fine, but an opinion against the grain gets a removal.
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13/01/2021 17:04:49 6 26
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Short term pain, long term gain.
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13/01/2021 17:09:24 7 1
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There is no gain, things would only go back to NORMAL IF we eventually make deals equivalent to what we had as a member of the EU.

That is incredibly unlikely, so now its just damage control while we are increasingly excluded from supply chains.

But anyone who bothered to listen knew this would happen, so its no surprise to anyone with a few braincells to rub together.
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13/01/2021 17:06:21 9 14
bbc
Fuel price increases drive up the cost of shipping, not sure what the BBC's point is here. There are many ways the costs rise and fall in business, they are called running costs.
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13/01/2021 17:09:32 20 3
bbc
They're not talking about running costs, they are talking about an additional cost, a cost that wasn't there on 31st December.
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bbc
Bla Bla Bla - wished BBC would furlough their staff so we they can't work and we don't have read this continuous rubbish. Removed
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13/01/2021 17:12:10 8 1
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You don't -have- to read it....

But then what would you moan about?
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13/01/2021 17:12:23 6 0
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They don't make the news, they report on it.

How is it rubbish if it will affect our imported food costs ???
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13/01/2021 17:12:51 7 0
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You know what... if you think it's continuous rubbish then why read it in the first place?
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13/01/2021 17:15:22 4 0
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As you say, you don't have to read it, yet you do. I know radical kwitters are renowned for being smart but surely you could figure that out.
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13/01/2021 17:15:40 4 0
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Why are you bothering to read it then . You do not have to read what is on the BBC , lots of other options . Far to many people kicking the BBC - fake news lovers .
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13/01/2021 17:16:02 5 0
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Do you need us to contact the Police to say you are being held hostage by someone forcing you to read the BBC HYS pages...?
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13/01/2021 17:04:32 8 19
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Give us a break BBC! Another predictable HYS on Brexit doom and gloom. How do these companies trade with the rest of the world?!!!
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13/01/2021 17:10:08 6 0
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Why do you think they mostly trade with the EU? it WAS more profitable.
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13/01/2021 17:10:10 41 8
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You know, I am completely surprised. NOT.
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13/01/2021 18:39:27 6 26
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Your comment is really original and interesting. NOT.
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13/01/2021 19:27:01 0 3
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remoaner
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13/01/2021 17:04:05 55 10
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Yeah but, sovrenti is so worth it!
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13/01/2021 17:10:19 20 13
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What is sovrenti? Isn't that Italian??
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13/01/2021 17:16:08 13 5
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Thick brexiteers, sorry that's all of them, thought it was a type of prossecco and got their glasses out! Should hav put their glasses on and read the small print on BoJo's deal!
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13/01/2021 19:02:44 3 3
bbc
Yes, they have their own too.
Just as we did.
But we gave ours up to have Johnson.
And proguement, etc.
520
13/01/2021 19:41:26 1 0
bbc
cockney people who rent 'ouses in southern Italy - in the 'eel
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13/01/2021 17:07:59 17 15
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Of course you could always buy from a local, grower/farmer. A win for the local economy and for the environment.
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13/01/2021 17:11:00 38 3
bbc
This country cannot supply the required amount of food for this nation, we need to import.
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13/01/2021 17:14:32 3 6
bbc
Or have better managed land resources, rather than grow yellow stinky rape seed oil.....Grow food....
579
13/01/2021 19:43:47 0 0
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EU restricted what UK farms could produce
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13/01/2021 17:11:15 9 16
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This lot need to stop moaning and get on with, they'll soon learn the paperwork, its called change. They've known change is coming for some time, about 4 years I think. I voted to remain but the majority didn't this was always going to happen.
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13/01/2021 17:18:06 8 1
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As you probably know, the new trade terms were agreed on 24/12, and details revealed to the public on 26/12. 5 days notice are hardly enough to update processes, don't you think?
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13/01/2021 17:11:26 10 16
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Then source your goods from other sources outside the EU or grow your own in the UK !
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13/01/2021 17:14:28 15 1
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or relocate your UK based fish processing (or other industry) to France or the Netherlands where you can hire the same EU employees and get your product to market quicker!
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Pip
13/01/2021 17:39:27 3 0
bbc
Oh, the Brexit dream, that keeps taking............?
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13/01/2021 17:49:43 3 0
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Lets take lettuce in January as an example:

Four scenarios:

1) UK grown / by road / fresh / June-August only?.
2) Spanish (EU) / by road / fresh / in the shops 48 hours after picking
3) Non-EU / by sea (14 days) / rotting before it reaches the shops
4) Non-EU / by air (next day) / available daily in Harrods food hall

Which is the logical solution?
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13/01/2021 17:11:31 6 14
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Increasing European red tape ove th epast 20 years cost my small business 25% of my time to run on the spot, yet we overcame it. No such thing as a free ride in today's world
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13/01/2021 17:13:19 12 3
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Enjoy the Tory blue tape!
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13/01/2021 17:33:37 4 0
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Tell the truth! The red tape added by bogjob is much more than any red tape over the the last 40 years!
Bla Bla Bla - wished BBC would furlough their staff so we they can't work and we don't have read this continuous rubbish. Removed
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13/01/2021 17:12:10 8 1
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You don't -have- to read it....

But then what would you moan about?
Bla Bla Bla - wished BBC would furlough their staff so we they can't work and we don't have read this continuous rubbish. Removed
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13/01/2021 17:12:23 6 0
bbc
They don't make the news, they report on it.

How is it rubbish if it will affect our imported food costs ???
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13/01/2021 17:12:39 156 25
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Brexit is having a catastrophic effect on the UK insurance market too. Fish process businesses in Cornwall are moving their businesses to France to ensure they can sell unfettered to their market and recruit hard working EU nationals. This is just the beginning!
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13/01/2021 18:03:11 71 14
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exactly, hard working EU nationals. While the out of work brits sit waiting for the next handout...
226
13/01/2021 18:19:22 13 1
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Did the Fishing industry vote to remain?
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13/01/2021 18:33:06 6 34
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Yes, it is the beginning of a new era of prosperity for our country, but even in 10 years time the old Remainers will still be complaining, like a stuck record.
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13/01/2021 19:20:42 5 1
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EU has rights to British fish stocks
13/01/2021 23:23:22 0 1
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Complete nonsense
14/01/2021 06:25:40 0 0
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If a fish processing business moves to France then in a couple of years time when the transitional quotas come to an end they will either have to sell EU caught fish to their EU customers, pay the "new tarrifs" remoaners keep complaining about in order to access British caught fish or move back to Britain. Either way businesses that start making stupid panicky decisions now will pay for it later
14/01/2021 08:17:50 1 0
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Glad someone has mentioned the insurance market at last less choice more cost
Bla Bla Bla - wished BBC would furlough their staff so we they can't work and we don't have read this continuous rubbish. Removed
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13/01/2021 17:12:51 7 0
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You know what... if you think it's continuous rubbish then why read it in the first place?
23
13/01/2021 17:11:31 6 14
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Increasing European red tape ove th epast 20 years cost my small business 25% of my time to run on the spot, yet we overcame it. No such thing as a free ride in today's world
28
13/01/2021 17:13:19 12 3
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Enjoy the Tory blue tape!
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13/01/2021 17:14:15 84 11
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@Saltway Sweeper
Short term pain, long term gain.

No gain here. Just a case of minimising pain in both the short and long term.
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13/01/2021 17:11:26 10 16
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Then source your goods from other sources outside the EU or grow your own in the UK !
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13/01/2021 17:14:28 15 1
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or relocate your UK based fish processing (or other industry) to France or the Netherlands where you can hire the same EU employees and get your product to market quicker!
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13/01/2021 17:11:00 38 3
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This country cannot supply the required amount of food for this nation, we need to import.
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13/01/2021 17:14:32 3 6
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Or have better managed land resources, rather than grow yellow stinky rape seed oil.....Grow food....
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13/01/2021 17:23:34 2 2
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Where do I send you my shovel? Keep digging!
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13/01/2021 17:14:37 4 14
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
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13/01/2021 18:26:21 2 0
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spoons closed ?
Bla Bla Bla - wished BBC would furlough their staff so we they can't work and we don't have read this continuous rubbish. Removed
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13/01/2021 17:15:22 4 0
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As you say, you don't have to read it, yet you do. I know radical kwitters are renowned for being smart but surely you could figure that out.
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13/01/2021 17:15:24 118 18
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Brexit will increase food supply chain costs

Surely Not?
This doesn't sound like a Brexit Bonus!!
183
13/01/2021 18:04:01 81 9
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Small print on rear of the big red bus...
218
13/01/2021 18:16:35 7 0
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Apply for your Brexit dividend. ??????
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13/01/2021 18:33:35 0 10
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yawn.
429
13/01/2021 19:18:05 0 4
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Not according to Tesco’s Chairman
457
13/01/2021 19:21:05 0 3
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time to ban Aldi
619
13/01/2021 19:53:12 0 6
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Buy British and get off buying over priced EU junk food
714
13/01/2021 20:19:50 0 0
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Not even a Brucie bonus for those of us old enough to remember that.
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13/01/2021 21:31:38 0 0
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Rees Mogg. Saying his constituents paid more for oranges because of the EU. It's in the public domain
Bla Bla Bla - wished BBC would furlough their staff so we they can't work and we don't have read this continuous rubbish. Removed
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13/01/2021 17:15:40 4 0
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Why are you bothering to read it then . You do not have to read what is on the BBC , lots of other options . Far to many people kicking the BBC - fake news lovers .
Bla Bla Bla - wished BBC would furlough their staff so we they can't work and we don't have read this continuous rubbish. Removed
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13/01/2021 17:16:02 5 0
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Do you need us to contact the Police to say you are being held hostage by someone forcing you to read the BBC HYS pages...?
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13/01/2021 17:11:46 5 18
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For some people (even although they have had 4.5 yrs to prepare) Brexit remains an utter obsession, as it does for some parts of the media, who are quick to 'censor' and close down discussion on more 'topical' subjects which they don't want to discuss. Additionally, for members of the BRC, who have underperformed for decades, (like M&S) it's another excuse from the well used 'excuse box'.
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13/01/2021 17:26:33 4 1
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You appear to still be here yourself.
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13/01/2021 19:48:52 0 0
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beeb likes making up rubbish anti brexit stories
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13/01/2021 17:10:19 20 13
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What is sovrenti? Isn't that Italian??
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13/01/2021 17:16:08 13 5
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Thick brexiteers, sorry that's all of them, thought it was a type of prossecco and got their glasses out! Should hav put their glasses on and read the small print on BoJo's deal!
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13/01/2021 17:16:29 143 18
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Surprise! not like we haven't been saying this was inevitable for the last 4 years.

Still I suppose it still counts as news, at least to the Leavers.

The sky DIDNT fall like nobody said it would, instead we are slowly left out of more and more supply chains because we are less profitable to sell to than other Countries.

Not even angry (Yet), but the year is only 2 weeks old.
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13/01/2021 17:32:34 27 56
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These supply chains will still need a market. We overlook this, I am sure the EU cannot simply stop exporting to the UK without other markets. Renewal of business is easier than new business. German cars is the easy quote but what about produce/tourism/components added to the fact we are a throwaway/repeat purchasing country. I believe we will see more concessions both ways to support trade.
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13/01/2021 18:31:15 1 22
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Brexit is only two weeks old. But then Remainers never wanted it to work.
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13/01/2021 19:20:12 3 9
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We just have to buy less EU produce
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13/01/2021 19:52:31 1 9
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EU has never been cheap for food . why do you think we have so much food poverty
13/01/2021 22:43:18 1 3
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"The sky DIDNT fall like nobody said it would"...in fact, of course, the Remainer Chicken Littles were hysterical in their predictions of apocalypse (they refer to "predictions" as "facts" usually)...and now of course they're denying they ever were...
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13/01/2021 17:17:05 6 16
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Just another lobby group complaining.

Next.
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13/01/2021 17:26:12 4 1
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Are you talking about yourself?
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13/01/2021 17:45:57 2 0
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Yes there have been lots of them. No doubt in the world you live in they are all wrong and Brexit is truly wonderful for everyone.
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13/01/2021 17:07:59 17 15
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Of course you could always buy from a local, grower/farmer. A win for the local economy and for the environment.
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13/01/2021 17:17:10 4 1
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Are you Chris Grayling in disguise? I hope not for your sake, he thought you could build houses all over the country to get out of recession and grow more food to provide more food.
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13/01/2021 17:07:59 17 15
bbc
Of course you could always buy from a local, grower/farmer. A win for the local economy and for the environment.
42
13/01/2021 17:17:29 7 1
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or move your business to the EU like they are doing in the fish processing industry. Watch what happens to UK car manufacturing when they discontinue the current models and move fully to electric!
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13/01/2021 17:17:39 11 6
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Headline: Brexit will increase food supply chain costs; a certainty
First line of article: Brexit red tape is likely to increase food supply chain costs; a possibility.
Which is it?
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13/01/2021 17:22:57 8 1
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Maybe one of them ... but I see multiple ways to raise prices and increase profits margins as its the best excuse they have had in years.

Remember how the likes of Tesco's and Sainsburys told us how we had the cheapest food in the EU and how little money they both made ... I do ... then Aldi and Lidl turned up and showed us we were being ripped off.
69
13/01/2021 17:27:25 0 0
bbc
yes
559
13/01/2021 19:39:06 0 1
bbc
Britain will hopefully move away from buying EU produce
12
13/01/2021 17:08:27 14 17
bbc
A one off inflation hit followed by good producers finding ways to cut costs which will involve sourcing supply and basing production facilities in the UK.
44
13/01/2021 17:17:48 9 0
bbc
In an ideal world yeh, but do you know how expensive production is in the UK?
70
MVS
13/01/2021 17:27:35 1 3
bbc
Then find ways to make ourselves more productive. We are very good at electronic engineering and writing software. Marry the 2 and we could produce lots of stuff at lower costs.
45
13/01/2021 17:17:50 55 3
bbc
Well, if people have to do more work, and it takes longer than, then productivity decreases and consumer costs increase.

Rather than deny this fact, just accept that this is the case - and many (the majority) voted for it
375
13/01/2021 19:03:41 42 14
bbc
There was a brief majority for Brexit way back in June 2016. That majority melted away, but we weren't allowed another vote. Probably because it was obvious the majority were wising up to the con, and would not vote for Brexit a 2nd time.

Now we'll all going to pay the price.

Support for Brexit currently at 38% (YouGov), and falling.
468
13/01/2021 19:24:30 1 1
bbc
not sure you read the news UK has had food poverty since the last 10 years , Mark Rushford pointed it out
13/01/2021 23:14:16 0 1
bbc
You are correct that those who bothered to vote had a small majority, however, how do you include non voters in this. Maybe they were mostly remain people which would sink the idea of any majority wanting to leave.
7
13/01/2021 17:07:11 8 19
bbc
Once these firms get used to the paperwork it will not cause any real problem. The spokesman is probably giving the very worst case scenario?
46
13/01/2021 17:18:05 6 1
bbc
Probably, but maybe he is giving the best case scenario
21
13/01/2021 17:11:15 9 16
bbc
This lot need to stop moaning and get on with, they'll soon learn the paperwork, its called change. They've known change is coming for some time, about 4 years I think. I voted to remain but the majority didn't this was always going to happen.
47
13/01/2021 17:18:06 8 1
bbc
As you probably know, the new trade terms were agreed on 24/12, and details revealed to the public on 26/12. 5 days notice are hardly enough to update processes, don't you think?
8
13/01/2021 17:07:14 22 4
bbc
Whats the long term gain? I don't see how being outside of the biggest trading block in the world which is on our doorstep not 1000's of miles away is going to be a gain?
48
13/01/2021 17:18:49 1 4
bbc
If things cost more, people will waste less, we will manage like we used to, we will have children that are fit again, alcohol will become unreachable, illegal drug markets will fail. You just need a bit of vision.
10
13/01/2021 17:07:59 17 15
bbc
Of course you could always buy from a local, grower/farmer. A win for the local economy and for the environment.
49
13/01/2021 17:18:53 2 0
bbc
In a lot of cases you will have to, of course everyone knows lower competition reduces prices ... right?
50
13/01/2021 17:18:53 72 10
bbc
It is worth all the costs to protect offshore banking...
237
13/01/2021 18:22:56 45 8
bbc
.... and tax avoidance loopholes for the wealthy.

SMH.
469
13/01/2021 19:24:59 1 5
bbc
EU tax loop hole is Netherlands
12
13/01/2021 17:08:27 14 17
bbc
A one off inflation hit followed by good producers finding ways to cut costs which will involve sourcing supply and basing production facilities in the UK.
51
13/01/2021 17:19:31 6 0
bbc
If that was the optimal solution, why didn't they do it while the UK was in the EU?
52
13/01/2021 17:19:51 8 10
bbc
If you run a system purely to achieve the most efficient outcome then I suggest we just raise the red flag and start speaking Chinese.
58
13/01/2021 17:24:22 5 2
bbc
So you suggest trying inefficiency... sorry stupid comment of mine...
64
13/01/2021 17:25:55 4 0
bbc
Spoken like 1970s Britain!! What do we need...? More inefficiency!!
96
13/01/2021 17:34:43 3 0
bbc
Did you actually read what you wrote?!
97
13/01/2021 17:34:48 6 0
bbc
So you mean this government was actually aiming for the less efficient (and costlier) outcome?

In that case, that is one of their targets that they have achieved.
10
13/01/2021 17:07:59 17 15
bbc
Of course you could always buy from a local, grower/farmer. A win for the local economy and for the environment.
53
13/01/2021 17:21:21 10 0
bbc
I'm looking forward to tasting Yorkshire oranges. Or Devon tomatoes. Scottish grapes anyone?
160
13/01/2021 17:52:45 1 3
bbc
Try Kent tomatoes grown at Planet Thanet. Also do peppers and cucumbers. I pay a little bit more but the flavour is far superior than the Dutch/Moroccon cheaper stuff.
54
MVS
13/01/2021 17:22:45 5 15
bbc
Oh good!. Here is a BBC negative Brexit story with an HYS. Meanwhile most goods are getting to and from the continent, and we still have nearly 3 months of bedding in period before any sensible person would start to draw any meaningful conclusions.
81
13/01/2021 17:30:24 4 0
bbc
Thanks for participating
145
13/01/2021 17:35:23 3 0
bbc
You lot still making dumb predictions?

Remember when you lot said 'project fear' when we pointed out how this will disrupt so many businesses and supply chains?

Welcome to project reality.
43
13/01/2021 17:17:39 11 6
bbc
Headline: Brexit will increase food supply chain costs; a certainty
First line of article: Brexit red tape is likely to increase food supply chain costs; a possibility.
Which is it?
55
13/01/2021 17:22:57 8 1
bbc
Maybe one of them ... but I see multiple ways to raise prices and increase profits margins as its the best excuse they have had in years.

Remember how the likes of Tesco's and Sainsburys told us how we had the cheapest food in the EU and how little money they both made ... I do ... then Aldi and Lidl turned up and showed us we were being ripped off.
13/01/2021 22:48:30 0 0
bbc
And they came here because of the EU or in spite of the EU?
56
13/01/2021 17:23:19 5 19
bbc
Usual Beeb drivel. Over time, purchasing mamagers will de-emphasise the EU in favour of domestic and other overseas suppliers. Over time, logistics managers will de-emphasise the short sea crossings. Particularly France and Holland (which does not seem to know the difference between a bio-hazard and a ham sandwich). And consumers will buy UK and avoid EU goods if alienated by this behaviour.
66
13/01/2021 17:26:23 9 1
bbc
Not going to happen - if there was ever a cost base that should have been more efficient, productive and provide a product to the quality, design, cost then it was the home market. The world has changed, and the UK didnt....
77
13/01/2021 17:29:48 3 0
bbc
get cracking and unleash your potential then,you will become very rich if you can import some cheap labour,otherwise paying £12 P/H and you wont last a week.hahahahahah
91
13/01/2021 17:33:34 3 1
bbc
Nonsense!
93
13/01/2021 17:33:37 4 0
bbc
Can you remind us, where in the UK do we grow Oranges? I also assume as a kwitter you don't want to eat things like fruit except those 4 weeks they are in season in the UK...
I also saw the head on Siemens was panicked we were going to start buying British kitchen white goods...

I wonder when kwitter will wake up and admit they were lies to
602
13/01/2021 19:49:24 0 0
bbc
been making up rubbish stories. since brexit a number of italian companies have bought british food businesses
31
13/01/2021 17:14:32 3 6
bbc
Or have better managed land resources, rather than grow yellow stinky rape seed oil.....Grow food....
57
13/01/2021 17:23:34 2 2
bbc
Where do I send you my shovel? Keep digging!
52
13/01/2021 17:19:51 8 10
bbc
If you run a system purely to achieve the most efficient outcome then I suggest we just raise the red flag and start speaking Chinese.
58
13/01/2021 17:24:22 5 2
bbc
So you suggest trying inefficiency... sorry stupid comment of mine...
59
13/01/2021 17:25:17 8 12
bbc
These are of course real problems, but the ‘disaster’ scenario presupposes no action to first mitigate, and then overcome them.

What will actually happen though is that piece by piece, company by company, industry by industry, managers, directors and owners will change their sources, practices and methods accordingly.

Don’t panic, it’ll be tough for some weeks, but the sun will rise again!!!
71
13/01/2021 17:27:47 17 1
bbc
Nah, they'll just put the prices up.

If you want to eat you'll pay.
89
13/01/2021 17:33:04 4 0
bbc
Tory propaganda, which they have themselves started believing in!
98
13/01/2021 17:35:12 7 0
bbc
You are right. They will relocate to the EU. Watch the Cornwall fishing series and see how UK fish processing businesses intend to to the EU to continue to source EU workers and get their product to market without delay,
125
13/01/2021 17:33:39 5 1
bbc
Weeks? Not likely.

Next month? Next year? Next decade?
60
13/01/2021 17:25:24 75 16
bbc
Where's the cheaper goods that were promised by the Farage and Co? Maybe the reform will bring them.hahahahahahahaha
280
13/01/2021 18:37:07 10 28
bbc
In which speech didi Nigel Farage mention cheaper goods?
470
13/01/2021 19:25:27 0 11
bbc
its only been 2 weeks of Brexit..relax

I buy British produce
895
13/01/2021 21:30:30 1 0
bbc
Rees Mogg. Saying his constituents paid more for oranges because of the EU. It's in the public domain.
61
13/01/2021 17:25:31 9 18
bbc
Another anti brexit BBC HYS - who would have guessed that ?
78
13/01/2021 17:29:53 7 0
bbc
Thanks for paticipating
80
13/01/2021 17:30:05 5 1
bbc
More nonsense form the Tory Bot Army... who'd have thought?!
124
13/01/2021 17:32:44 5 0
bbc
There's a reason for that, BREXIT IS THE DUMBEST THING PEOPLE EVER VOTED FOR IN THIS COUNTRY!
130
13/01/2021 17:44:10 3 0
bbc
It's only anti-brexit if you think this is a bad thing, I thought it was demonstrating sovereignty??
62
13/01/2021 17:15:03 6 26
bbc
good news! - this will make our uk local organic farmers more able to compete with supplying better quality food at lower carbon miles footprint.

Brexit is turning out to be way better than expected.

thank god smarter ppl than me voted to leave the nasty Eu trade cartel
75
13/01/2021 17:29:15 6 0
bbc
Yep great for local farmers! except for those who had supply chains abroad...

But mostly great for them ... nobody else, just them...
76
13/01/2021 17:29:15 5 0
bbc
Sophistry is supposed to be clever, your nonsense can't even be labelled as sophistry.
123
13/01/2021 17:42:13 1 0
bbc
I very much doubt there are many smarter than you...
608
13/01/2021 19:49:49 0 0
bbc
buy british its healthier
8
13/01/2021 17:07:14 22 4
bbc
Whats the long term gain? I don't see how being outside of the biggest trading block in the world which is on our doorstep not 1000's of miles away is going to be a gain?
63
13/01/2021 17:25:45 2 1
bbc
Those who voted for it don’t know and don’t care .
52
13/01/2021 17:19:51 8 10
bbc
If you run a system purely to achieve the most efficient outcome then I suggest we just raise the red flag and start speaking Chinese.
64
13/01/2021 17:25:55 4 0
bbc
Spoken like 1970s Britain!! What do we need...? More inefficiency!!
103
13/01/2021 17:36:32 1 3
bbc
Hardly ... I am merely pointing out that all things in life are a compromise and if you crave ultimate efficiency then it comes with other costs ... including EU courts, uncontrolled migration and EU oversight of most part of our lives.

If you crave that then 27 other countries exist where you can continue to live the dream ... personally a few months of disruption will be worth it
40
13/01/2021 17:17:05 6 16
bbc
Just another lobby group complaining.

Next.
65
13/01/2021 17:26:12 4 1
bbc
Are you talking about yourself?
56
13/01/2021 17:23:19 5 19
bbc
Usual Beeb drivel. Over time, purchasing mamagers will de-emphasise the EU in favour of domestic and other overseas suppliers. Over time, logistics managers will de-emphasise the short sea crossings. Particularly France and Holland (which does not seem to know the difference between a bio-hazard and a ham sandwich). And consumers will buy UK and avoid EU goods if alienated by this behaviour.
66
13/01/2021 17:26:23 9 1
bbc
Not going to happen - if there was ever a cost base that should have been more efficient, productive and provide a product to the quality, design, cost then it was the home market. The world has changed, and the UK didnt....
37
13/01/2021 17:11:46 5 18
bbc
For some people (even although they have had 4.5 yrs to prepare) Brexit remains an utter obsession, as it does for some parts of the media, who are quick to 'censor' and close down discussion on more 'topical' subjects which they don't want to discuss. Additionally, for members of the BRC, who have underperformed for decades, (like M&S) it's another excuse from the well used 'excuse box'.
67
13/01/2021 17:26:33 4 1
bbc
You appear to still be here yourself.
68
13/01/2021 17:27:05 91 17
bbc
Whenever anybody complains now about Brexit and the disruption, delays, costs it has brought - I'd like to ask that person how they voted in the referendum: if they voted Brexit, then I'd shrug my shoulders and tell them 'Remain told you so'. Unfortunately, it is not that simple; we are all going to suffer less choice and higher costs. Ultimately, this will be passed on to consumers.
274
13/01/2021 18:35:38 57 11
bbc
If things get really bad the Brexit voting Brits will never admit that they actually voted leave.
277
13/01/2021 18:36:32 2 12
bbc
Yawn...yawn..yawn.
467
13/01/2021 19:22:38 2 7
bbc
not really. we just have to buy british produce
43
13/01/2021 17:17:39 11 6
bbc
Headline: Brexit will increase food supply chain costs; a certainty
First line of article: Brexit red tape is likely to increase food supply chain costs; a possibility.
Which is it?
69
13/01/2021 17:27:25 0 0
bbc
yes
44
13/01/2021 17:17:48 9 0
bbc
In an ideal world yeh, but do you know how expensive production is in the UK?
70
MVS
13/01/2021 17:27:35 1 3
bbc
Then find ways to make ourselves more productive. We are very good at electronic engineering and writing software. Marry the 2 and we could produce lots of stuff at lower costs.
121
13/01/2021 17:42:01 4 0
bbc
That's called putting people out of work by writing software and creating machines to do their jobs for them.

You want that?
143
Pip
13/01/2021 17:48:01 4 0
bbc
I think they'll just want to pay people less...........?
59
13/01/2021 17:25:17 8 12
bbc
These are of course real problems, but the ‘disaster’ scenario presupposes no action to first mitigate, and then overcome them.

What will actually happen though is that piece by piece, company by company, industry by industry, managers, directors and owners will change their sources, practices and methods accordingly.

Don’t panic, it’ll be tough for some weeks, but the sun will rise again!!!
71
13/01/2021 17:27:47 17 1
bbc
Nah, they'll just put the prices up.

If you want to eat you'll pay.
84
13/01/2021 17:31:59 4 2
bbc
If EU products become too expensive, our companies and people will over time simply re-source to buying from th3 rest of the world.
72
13/01/2021 17:28:11 227 46
bbc
Still waiting to hear any benefits from Boris's Brexit. So far none, just extra cost, extra red tape, less business and fewer jobs for Brits.

Boris - The worst Prime Minister in History.
395
13/01/2021 19:08:36 59 31
bbc
The big benefit is that the people who make our laws are the English ruling elite instead of the European ruling elite. Not sure it makes much difference to you if you are not part of either group.
422
13/01/2021 19:16:13 5 17
bbc
Didn’t you hear we will save a fortune paying into the EU. Also we avoided picking up a huge slice of the €750 billion EU fund to recover from Coronavirus
436
13/01/2021 19:21:44 2 9
bbc
Clearly you haven't read much history.
453
13/01/2021 19:19:48 7 2
bbc
Boris gave EU the fish stocks
654
13/01/2021 20:04:41 1 0
bbc
Has to be Tony, surely?
711
13/01/2021 20:15:49 7 3
bbc
Undoubtedly. The guy can't string a sentence together.
That said, people knew this before voting him into power but thought a guy that knocks children to the ground in mock rugby games would make a good PM. I will just leave it there.
774
13/01/2021 20:45:16 3 6
bbc
Boris Brexit ?? Just because he is in power it was actually Cameron that gave the vote ... it beggars belief how someone people can’t get simple facts right ...
798
13/01/2021 20:54:40 12 2
bbc
I'm with you on this. Absolutely no advantage with Brexit,only Negatives. All the way through for the next few decades.
800
13/01/2021 20:53:02 8 1
bbc
No.

Blame those who voted to leave.
856
13/01/2021 21:15:44 1 0
bbc
Er no, that would be Gordon Brown
13/01/2021 22:11:33 2 0
bbc
Didn't you get your sovereignty package yet when you get that. you will feel much beyter
13/01/2021 23:18:10 1 2
bbc
No membership fee, additional fishing rights, no ECJ meddling in domestic affairs, ability to reduce or amend VAT (as has already happened on female sanitary products, no more unlimited immigration, ability to prioritise skilled migration and many many more. The list is pretty long if you come out from behind your veil of ignorance.
13/01/2021 23:22:49 1 0
bbc
Symanski - worst HYS contributor in history
14/01/2021 07:50:53 0 0
bbc
Why does everyone keep slagging off Boris ,the guy is doing what he sees is his best for this country along with the members of his cabinet. Just explain in detail the alternative is it a labour government bowing down to Europe and giving away loads of money after nicking it from the people with savings. Its easy to criticise but this country is in crisis, the worst since WW2.
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col
13/01/2021 17:28:58 10 13
bbc
This is such nonsense.

I have seen companies how have suddenly found that due to the risk of endangered species of timber being used in products they are having made overseas and are importing to then export globally they have had to deal with proof of origin and customs declarations all over the world. The additional cost is pennies on items selling for hundreds.
it barely registers.
90
13/01/2021 17:33:26 8 1
bbc
And your comment only anecdotally mentions companies - unspecified... without specifying which - I know companies that are in knots supplying product with all the certs you mention, using materials that arent, cant be made in UK to make stuff in UK, not made elsewhere, that means pennies on items that are only pennies... so all nonsense... but doesnt effect you.
106
13/01/2021 17:38:33 3 0
bbc
I think you fail to fully appreciate the impact of transaction costs on markets. The ratio to product cost is far from the only factor.
117
13/01/2021 17:40:32 5 0
bbc
you're comparing a few pence added to a large peice of furniture with a few pence added to the price of an apple? Get a grip, percentage wise it's miles apart!
74
13/01/2021 17:29:03 103 17
bbc
Who’d have thunk it! Buckets full of extra red-tape as much at £7 billions worth.

As requested by the ‘liars of leave’ who forgot to tell the “duped’ in the fraudulent campaign.
13/01/2021 23:24:16 2 7
bbc
You sad muppet
62
13/01/2021 17:15:03 6 26
bbc
good news! - this will make our uk local organic farmers more able to compete with supplying better quality food at lower carbon miles footprint.

Brexit is turning out to be way better than expected.

thank god smarter ppl than me voted to leave the nasty Eu trade cartel
75
13/01/2021 17:29:15 6 0
bbc
Yep great for local farmers! except for those who had supply chains abroad...

But mostly great for them ... nobody else, just them...
62
13/01/2021 17:15:03 6 26
bbc
good news! - this will make our uk local organic farmers more able to compete with supplying better quality food at lower carbon miles footprint.

Brexit is turning out to be way better than expected.

thank god smarter ppl than me voted to leave the nasty Eu trade cartel
76
13/01/2021 17:29:15 5 0
bbc
Sophistry is supposed to be clever, your nonsense can't even be labelled as sophistry.
56
13/01/2021 17:23:19 5 19
bbc
Usual Beeb drivel. Over time, purchasing mamagers will de-emphasise the EU in favour of domestic and other overseas suppliers. Over time, logistics managers will de-emphasise the short sea crossings. Particularly France and Holland (which does not seem to know the difference between a bio-hazard and a ham sandwich). And consumers will buy UK and avoid EU goods if alienated by this behaviour.
77
13/01/2021 17:29:48 3 0
bbc
get cracking and unleash your potential then,you will become very rich if you can import some cheap labour,otherwise paying £12 P/H and you wont last a week.hahahahahah
61
13/01/2021 17:25:31 9 18
bbc
Another anti brexit BBC HYS - who would have guessed that ?
78
13/01/2021 17:29:53 7 0
bbc
Thanks for paticipating
104
13/01/2021 17:37:07 1 2
bbc
You only had three words to spell correctly. Oh well maybe next time eh ...
79
13/01/2021 17:29:58 130 24
bbc
I don't care. I live in France where we have lots of everything, except Brexiteers.
87
13/01/2021 17:32:41 34 55
bbc
True. You have Frexiteers.
99
13/01/2021 17:35:15 6 13
bbc
Except vaccines but you do have lots of fonctionnaires
112
13/01/2021 17:39:36 6 17
bbc
No, stuck in your expat bubble, you’ve probably never even heard of Front National!
127
13/01/2021 17:42:53 4 22
bbc
Not much in the way of vaccinations but I suppose you just love the rules and regulations ...
211
13/01/2021 18:13:59 4 22
bbc
Then why are you commenting on here? We don't care what you or your countrymen think"
276
13/01/2021 18:35:51 3 17
bbc
You also have lots of riots and arson.
466
13/01/2021 19:22:06 1 11
bbc
france has alot of frogs legs on the menu for you to enjoy
589
13/01/2021 19:50:14 0 4
bbc
Stay in France please
811
13/01/2021 20:57:50 2 0
bbc
Good for you! I am thinking of joining you..... Sod UK. Its on a downer from now on. Cant wait to leave the stupid DUMP.
13/01/2021 22:38:58 1 0
bbc
Lucky you??
13/01/2021 23:14:59 2 1
bbc
Nice country only problem is its full of French people
13/01/2021 23:30:19 1 0
bbc
Lots of everything here to. Except in it seems in sainsbury, after all they were/are pro-eu.
Oh and lots of vacine here to. Which you don't seem to have in France.
13/01/2021 23:54:24 0 1
bbc
High taxes, over controlled by local politicians, run by a socialist government. There's an awful lot not to like. Good for extended holidays, would be terrible place to live
61
13/01/2021 17:25:31 9 18
bbc
Another anti brexit BBC HYS - who would have guessed that ?
80
13/01/2021 17:30:05 5 1
bbc
More nonsense form the Tory Bot Army... who'd have thought?!
54
MVS
13/01/2021 17:22:45 5 15
bbc
Oh good!. Here is a BBC negative Brexit story with an HYS. Meanwhile most goods are getting to and from the continent, and we still have nearly 3 months of bedding in period before any sensible person would start to draw any meaningful conclusions.
81
13/01/2021 17:30:24 4 0
bbc
Thanks for participating
88
13/01/2021 17:32:50 0 2
bbc
And your point is...?
82
13/01/2021 17:30:28 17 10
bbc
I no longer care . A 10% + increase in my food costs will have no impact on my finances . Feel sorry for those who voted remain - for many I suspect another hardship . Could not give a toss re impact on anyone who voted for Brexit .
126
13/01/2021 17:33:43 9 2
bbc
I'm afraid that your "I'm all right Jack!" attitude won't wash with the millions hovering around the breadline in the UK, and you clearly don't care about the consequences for them. Please don't use the tory line of "It's their own fault if they're poor"
529
13/01/2021 19:35:07 0 0
bbc
need to stop buying EU ..hope that happens
13/01/2021 22:35:22 0 0
bbc
Yes you are the PROBLEM.
13
des
13/01/2021 17:08:45 162 22
bbc
So basically it’s a tariff free shit deal.....
83
13/01/2021 17:30:46 48 204
bbc
Apart from cheaper mortgages, lower inflation, cheaper fuel, higher minimum wages. What has voting Brexit ever done for us?
108
13/01/2021 17:38:58 67 2
bbc
LOL... how about providing evidence to back up your wild claim that Brexit has produced these miracles?!

I could easily rubbish your claims about economic improvement under the Tories because there has been none; we have record personal and national debt for starters!
111
13/01/2021 17:39:30 54 2
bbc
Created a strange kind of delusion?
158
13/01/2021 17:51:58 53 1
bbc
None of the above are as a result of leaving Europe, apart from the interest rate being at an historically low rate and ironically that has been brought about by the economy being in a poor state in part due to fears of hits to the economy on leaving the EU.
171
13/01/2021 17:57:10 47 0
bbc
Cheaper mortgages? How? last i checked house prices were still going up
Lower inflation? cant believe you can say that with a straight face on an article about price rises
cheaper fuel? you been to a fuel pump lately, price is up.
higher minimum wage? aye good luck with that, got any evidence of it going up
184
13/01/2021 18:04:26 31 0
bbc
But...none of those things are due to Brexit.
186
VDO
13/01/2021 18:04:31 21 2
bbc
You don't live in the UK , mortgages aren't cheap, inflation is low only by name, and how low can you go with the minimal wage ?
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13/01/2021 18:08:11 32 1
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hahaha..i thought Wetherspoons were closed
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13/01/2021 18:14:14 22 2
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Plus bluer skies. Don’t forget Brexit has brought this too.
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13/01/2021 18:29:22 24 0
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Not forgetting - unemployment, capital flight, £7 bn of Brexit red tape, the fishing fleet tied up in harbour, reduced access to EU markets for food and fish, chaos at the ports, loss of access to crimal databases, loss of pet passports and priority immigration clearance, loss of GDPR protection and the introduction of non tariff barriers.
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13/01/2021 18:29:38 0 20
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Good one. You answered the tedious Remainer rhetorical question.
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13/01/2021 18:46:11 22 0
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incteased food costs, .made holidays more expensive, reduced the value of the pound, ( which increases the cost of everthing imported or containing imports), left us with a shortage of nurses, doctors, fruit-pickers, given us an incompetent government, increased uneployment, sent many companies abroad, ( esp arch-brexiter JRM.).
Gve me another 400 characters, and I could fill them too.
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13/01/2021 18:55:24 15 0
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Cheaper mortgages and lower inflation now, due to poor economy.

Cheaper fuel? Due to crash in oil price, not Brexit.

Higher min. wage we would have happened anyway. Only probably higher because we'd have had more money.

But Brexit has done plenty things for us, all of them bad!
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13/01/2021 19:42:35 5 0
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When did all this happen? Whilst in EU! Enjoy your world beating prosperity in next few years!
575
13/01/2021 19:48:30 8 0
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How
Fuel higher due to £ fall etc

The rest is just fiction as was the lies told during the campaign
713
13/01/2021 20:17:37 1 0
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Please do the decent thing and provide at least a teaspoon of evidence.
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13/01/2021 20:55:56 1 0
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Brexit has not given any of us Cheaper anything. World economics and Covid have given us cheaper fuel and employment rates.
Dream on old man. But you forgot to say higher prices, fewer jobs, more families needing food banks, lower gdp with resulting funding cuts to our shools, police forces and NHS....... but at least you may have cheaper fuel
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13/01/2021 21:20:21 1 0
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Apart from cheaper mortgages, (caused by U.K. printing money), lower inflation, (lack of consumption demand caused by ramping asset prices by UK printing money), cheaper fuel, (depends on the international price of oil), higher minimum wages (level has always been set by UK govt), What has voting Brexit ever done for us? (Nothing then).
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13/01/2021 21:22:15 0 0
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Cheaper fuel? It's gone up from 115.9 to 119.9/litre in the last two weeks.
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mja
13/01/2021 21:36:49 2 0
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????

What has any of that got to do with Brexit, Mortgages are low all over the world Not a result of Brexit

Fuel is cheaper because oil is cheaper because of over supply - not Brexit

Minimum wage has gone up in line with inflation, as wages do - Not Brexit

Brexit means, higher prices, less national security and more racism
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13/01/2021 21:42:50 0 0
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well it certainly did not improve your education
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13/01/2021 21:55:53 0 0
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What cheaper Mortgages, what cheaper fuel,when did the minimum wage go up and what to? I assume you are being sarcastic or are in need of counselling.
13/01/2021 22:15:13 1 0
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Freedom!! And no EU workers.
13/01/2021 22:57:30 0 0
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And all since January 1st.
13/01/2021 23:04:37 0 0
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Less than the Romans!
14/01/2021 07:24:42 0 0
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No more Romans?
14/01/2021 09:10:01 0 0
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Er...none of those have anything whatsoever to do with Brexit.
14/01/2021 10:12:35 0 0
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Cheaper Mortgages for now due to emergency measures by the BOE, Lower inflation ?? This has not had a chance to feed into the figures after 2 weeks. Cheaper fuel ?? This is to do with international Commodity prices nothing to do with the EU. Minimum wages are not set by the EU each country is free to set their own.
14/01/2021 15:03:06 0 0
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And of course, pigs that can fly
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13/01/2021 17:27:47 17 1
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Nah, they'll just put the prices up.

If you want to eat you'll pay.
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13/01/2021 17:31:59 4 2
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If EU products become too expensive, our companies and people will over time simply re-source to buying from th3 rest of the world.
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13/01/2021 18:25:21 3 0
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yes, but if from the EU was not cheaper than the ROW they would be doing it now. so the prices will go up and if they are more than from the ROW companies will then switch, you are correct.

but the prices will still be higher than they were.
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13/01/2021 17:32:14 8 4
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I've switched to Irish whisky to support our EU friends. Delivery straight to my door with no red tape. Every little helps!
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13/01/2021 18:39:16 1 0
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Whiskey
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13/01/2021 17:16:29 143 18
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Surprise! not like we haven't been saying this was inevitable for the last 4 years.

Still I suppose it still counts as news, at least to the Leavers.

The sky DIDNT fall like nobody said it would, instead we are slowly left out of more and more supply chains because we are less profitable to sell to than other Countries.

Not even angry (Yet), but the year is only 2 weeks old.
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13/01/2021 17:32:34 27 56
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These supply chains will still need a market. We overlook this, I am sure the EU cannot simply stop exporting to the UK without other markets. Renewal of business is easier than new business. German cars is the easy quote but what about produce/tourism/components added to the fact we are a throwaway/repeat purchasing country. I believe we will see more concessions both ways to support trade.
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13/01/2021 17:36:28 25 1
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There are 27 other markets, saturating one of them a little more is likely to be more profitable than getting past the week long red tape and paperwork.
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13/01/2021 17:42:07 12 1
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Please - we don't even know how to negotiate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-trade-eu-jonathan-powell-b1780810.html

They are not competent to sort this out.
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13/01/2021 17:45:17 20 2
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Also mutual concessions, sounds like some sort of deal thing, didn't we have one of those?

Good luck getting anything better with the blonde muppet in charge, he would probably threaten to embargo the EU if we don't get better terms.
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13/01/2021 18:48:28 2 2
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Of course they can.
Just keep believing if it beats your depression.
And if you aren't yet, you will be.
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13/01/2021 18:58:34 8 2
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Of course EU businesses want to export to UK.
Of course UK businesses want to export to the EU.
But it was UK alone that decided that we should do away with the frictionless Single Market borders - in the name of 'sovereignty'.
This is just a small part of the cost of that decision.
But, it can be reversed if we rejoin.
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13/01/2021 18:54:24 8 1
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Oh yes they can ignore the UK market. The 'essentiality' of the UK market, to Europe, was one of the major flaws of the Brexiteers' argument. But, like most of their rubbish, it was naive / lies. But Britain's businesses are left with the nightmare - and Govt idiots are just completely out of touch - look at their ignorant meaningless platitudes.

Britain is finished!
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13/01/2021 19:41:59 4 0
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It's not necessarily what the UK buys from the EU. More imortant is what the EU buys from the UK. If it gets more costly from the UK - the EU will look/buy from elsewhere.
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13/01/2021 21:43:14 1 0
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You seem to be missing the point, it exporting to the EU is the problem, the Germans will still export their cars to us and as the UK car industry dies we will have less choice of UK built ones. They already export to other countries with tariffs its nothing new to them the cost ae paid but the buyer in the UK. They don't have to worry we do.
13/01/2021 22:01:02 3 0
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Why do we need more concessions when we have just signed the easiest and greatest trade deal in our history? Yoe brexiteers are just never going to admit you have screwed yourselves and the rest of us because your too thick headed to see the truth. This will only get worse. Let us all know how we are all going to be better off in the near.middle and distant future?
13/01/2021 23:20:39 1 0
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"I believe we will see more concessions both ways to support trade."

Yes you can have your cheese sandwich back again - after the cheese and butter have been removed from it.
14/01/2021 11:30:58 0 0
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These supply chains will still need a market. We overlook this, I am sure the EU cannot simply stop exporting to the UK

Don't bet on it
14/01/2021 11:48:36 0 0
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10% of the parts of a Rolls Royce car are uk sourced. The same goes for Bentleys. Why would the german owners not move profuction to the mainland, where they have manufacturing sites capable of handproducing luxury cars. Thats just one example.
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13/01/2021 17:29:58 130 24
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I don't care. I live in France where we have lots of everything, except Brexiteers.
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13/01/2021 17:32:41 34 55
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True. You have Frexiteers.
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13/01/2021 17:41:15 26 4
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logical inconsistency
“[I don't care. I live in France where we have lots of everything, except Brexiteers]
True. You have Frexiteers”
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Fortunately these are few in number and far less influential now that the world has seen the damage that Brexit has inflicted on the UK.
The concept of negotiating for a worse trade deal, rather than for better terms, was one of the more bizarre aspects.
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13/01/2021 18:02:09 16 2
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Le Pen is in favour of remaining in the EU.

Do some research.
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13/01/2021 18:57:55 5 1
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And Parisians.
My sympathy.
We have to suffer brexiteers.
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13/01/2021 20:21:04 0 0
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What does this even mean?
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13/01/2021 17:30:24 4 0
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Thanks for participating
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13/01/2021 17:32:50 0 2
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And your point is...?
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13/01/2021 17:39:48 3 0
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Posting on HYS to complain about there being a HYS...

Is Irony not a thing where you come from?
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13/01/2021 17:25:17 8 12
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These are of course real problems, but the ‘disaster’ scenario presupposes no action to first mitigate, and then overcome them.

What will actually happen though is that piece by piece, company by company, industry by industry, managers, directors and owners will change their sources, practices and methods accordingly.

Don’t panic, it’ll be tough for some weeks, but the sun will rise again!!!
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13/01/2021 17:33:04 4 0
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Tory propaganda, which they have themselves started believing in!
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col
13/01/2021 17:28:58 10 13
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This is such nonsense.

I have seen companies how have suddenly found that due to the risk of endangered species of timber being used in products they are having made overseas and are importing to then export globally they have had to deal with proof of origin and customs declarations all over the world. The additional cost is pennies on items selling for hundreds.
it barely registers.
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13/01/2021 17:33:26 8 1
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And your comment only anecdotally mentions companies - unspecified... without specifying which - I know companies that are in knots supplying product with all the certs you mention, using materials that arent, cant be made in UK to make stuff in UK, not made elsewhere, that means pennies on items that are only pennies... so all nonsense... but doesnt effect you.
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13/01/2021 17:23:19 5 19
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Usual Beeb drivel. Over time, purchasing mamagers will de-emphasise the EU in favour of domestic and other overseas suppliers. Over time, logistics managers will de-emphasise the short sea crossings. Particularly France and Holland (which does not seem to know the difference between a bio-hazard and a ham sandwich). And consumers will buy UK and avoid EU goods if alienated by this behaviour.
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13/01/2021 17:33:34 3 1
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Nonsense!
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13/01/2021 17:11:31 6 14
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Increasing European red tape ove th epast 20 years cost my small business 25% of my time to run on the spot, yet we overcame it. No such thing as a free ride in today's world
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13/01/2021 17:33:37 4 0
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Tell the truth! The red tape added by bogjob is much more than any red tape over the the last 40 years!
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13/01/2021 17:23:19 5 19
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Usual Beeb drivel. Over time, purchasing mamagers will de-emphasise the EU in favour of domestic and other overseas suppliers. Over time, logistics managers will de-emphasise the short sea crossings. Particularly France and Holland (which does not seem to know the difference between a bio-hazard and a ham sandwich). And consumers will buy UK and avoid EU goods if alienated by this behaviour.
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13/01/2021 17:33:37 4 0
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Can you remind us, where in the UK do we grow Oranges? I also assume as a kwitter you don't want to eat things like fruit except those 4 weeks they are in season in the UK...
I also saw the head on Siemens was panicked we were going to start buying British kitchen white goods...

I wonder when kwitter will wake up and admit they were lies to
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13/01/2021 17:34:07 32 4
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BJ/Gove's promises: friction-less trade, free trade agreement, tariff-free trading, as before, less red tape, no extra paperwork, no new border between NI/GB, blablabla - all lies. Is there going to be any punishment for this? Probably not. The utmost we might get down the line is: 'Lessons have been learnt'; it translates to: Sorry (that I got caught out), but I will walk off scot-free. Move on..
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13/01/2021 17:34:11 10 2
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Ocean Guardian
“Then source your goods from other sources outside the EU or grow your own in the UK!”
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Alternatively, as suggested by HM Government, businesses could employ the services of someone who could act as a customs agent or direct or indirect representative to shoulder some of the burden of these new trade restrictions. Clearly there’d be a charge for this service.
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13/01/2021 17:44:39 2 11
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A charge yes ... but as the company learns how it all works they can dispense with them in a few months if they choose to.

How many of us have had to fully retrain into different professions ... and basically we just got on with it.
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13/01/2021 19:36:22 0 2
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UK needs to get away now from buying EU
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13/01/2021 17:19:51 8 10
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If you run a system purely to achieve the most efficient outcome then I suggest we just raise the red flag and start speaking Chinese.
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13/01/2021 17:34:43 3 0
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Did you actually read what you wrote?!
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13/01/2021 17:19:51 8 10
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If you run a system purely to achieve the most efficient outcome then I suggest we just raise the red flag and start speaking Chinese.
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13/01/2021 17:34:48 6 0
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So you mean this government was actually aiming for the less efficient (and costlier) outcome?

In that case, that is one of their targets that they have achieved.
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13/01/2021 17:25:17 8 12
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These are of course real problems, but the ‘disaster’ scenario presupposes no action to first mitigate, and then overcome them.

What will actually happen though is that piece by piece, company by company, industry by industry, managers, directors and owners will change their sources, practices and methods accordingly.

Don’t panic, it’ll be tough for some weeks, but the sun will rise again!!!
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13/01/2021 17:35:12 7 0
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You are right. They will relocate to the EU. Watch the Cornwall fishing series and see how UK fish processing businesses intend to to the EU to continue to source EU workers and get their product to market without delay,
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13/01/2021 17:29:58 130 24
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I don't care. I live in France where we have lots of everything, except Brexiteers.
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13/01/2021 17:35:15 6 13
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Except vaccines but you do have lots of fonctionnaires
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13/01/2021 17:25:13 28 5
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Welcome to brexit - you want to eat, feed your family, costs you more. Now what else has it "improved"? Keep those brexit "benefits" flooding in.
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13/01/2021 17:39:47 11 23
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Uk food is some of the cheapest in Europe ... that is down to UK internal market competition. A few pennies if that will be wiped off by completion by other companies doing it better and cheaper.

Change brings opportunity and those that shout the loudest mostly are the ones fearing they will lose out.