Families 'struggling to pay for funerals'
12/01/2021 | news | business | 126
A report suggests there is a widening gap in the cost of funerals in different parts of the UK.
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12/01/2021 15:05:20 15 4
bbc
Do you think some undertakers are taking advantage of the pandemic? PPE manufacturers and distributers did, as did the alcohol handwash makers and the shops who sold them. The unacceptable face of capitalism?
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12/01/2021 15:07:35 3 1
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distributors
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12/01/2021 15:09:10 3 0
bbc
"The company's report suggested the cost of a funeral in the South East of England had risen by 9.8% in the past year"

I'd say this is indicative that your comment may be accurate, although I guess it wouldn't be proof. The Funeral Directors own costs may have also gone up, so they may be passing on costs instead of increasing their own profits - hard to say without more info.
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AMc
12/01/2021 15:33:52 0 1
bbc
But no doubt you want capitalist taxes to pay for it.

Yep, heard it all before.
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12/01/2021 15:05:20 15 4
bbc
Do you think some undertakers are taking advantage of the pandemic? PPE manufacturers and distributers did, as did the alcohol handwash makers and the shops who sold them. The unacceptable face of capitalism?
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12/01/2021 15:07:35 3 1
bbc
distributors
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12/01/2021 15:05:20 15 4
bbc
Do you think some undertakers are taking advantage of the pandemic? PPE manufacturers and distributers did, as did the alcohol handwash makers and the shops who sold them. The unacceptable face of capitalism?
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12/01/2021 15:09:10 3 0
bbc
"The company's report suggested the cost of a funeral in the South East of England had risen by 9.8% in the past year"

I'd say this is indicative that your comment may be accurate, although I guess it wouldn't be proof. The Funeral Directors own costs may have also gone up, so they may be passing on costs instead of increasing their own profits - hard to say without more info.
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12/01/2021 15:12:34 22 1
bbc
Donate your body to science. Done.
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12/01/2021 15:33:34 9 0
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Not that easy - My Dad did and as the Hospital on the Isle of Wight after initially wanting it could not use it - we had to pay to transport to St Georges in London. I did suggest as he worked for the railways and had free passes I took him on the train but apparently that was not appropriate.
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12/01/2021 15:33:35 4 0
bbc
Currently due to covid they are not accepting donations of bodies. I just looked online. This might change but it is the case today.

You can save money by doing direct cremation for example.
This website was quite enlightening: httpp://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=the-funeral-and-burial

I'm very sorry for all who've lost loved ones especially in these already stressful times.
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12/01/2021 20:55:43 0 0
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If everyone did that they would be getting over 600,000 bodies a year. I'm sure that's too many for their needs.
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12/01/2021 15:13:36 17 2
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Undertakers have job security the rest of us could only dream of!
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12/01/2021 19:49:59 5 0
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Yes it's a dead certain income
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12/01/2021 15:15:20 9 1
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Life Assurance?
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12/01/2021 15:16:57 7 1
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Not just the undertaker... There are church fees, and, if a humanist, the cost of a celebrant.
Funeral plans are being pushed by insurance companies, and they too make a profit from the policies they sell.
A lot of organisations all asking for their share of the total cost
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12/01/2021 15:17:10 27 4
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Maybe this pandemic will encourage people to save a bit more, some how I doubt it.
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12/01/2021 16:36:14 6 9
bbc
If we're all relaying on Amazon, et al to deliver our goods, then they'll be a lot of people who won't be able to save.

This is not an issue for those on a decent salary. For those who don't earn a great deal, in work poverty is increasingly spreading it's way through UK society to pay for those on a decent salary or pension.
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13/01/2021 08:25:26 2 0
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Sociopath
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12/01/2021 15:21:25 8 1
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Every other advert on TV seems to be either funeral plans or life insurance. Sign of the times I suppose.
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12/01/2021 15:29:10 32 9
bbc
Everybody is keen to get a share of any money left but usually no one wants to pay. Well done those people who pay for their funeral themselves whilst alive. Shame on those people who have the money but rely on the State Funeral Grant.
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12/01/2021 16:15:48 22 2
bbc
Don’t judge / shame.

Circumstances vary. I’ve just lost both my parents. One to Parkinson’s dementia & Covid, the other to cancer. Both had mental ill health due to dad’s long years of suffering & disability & never did a funeral plan - couldn’t afford it either.

Funerals cost nearly £9,000. Luckily I could pay.

Many others will have similar stories so please don’t judge
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13/01/2021 08:24:59 2 1
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Sociopath.
DO WHAT THEY DO IN INDIA, IT WILL SAVE LANDSPACE.

JUST DIG A MASS GRAVE AND INCINERATE THE COVID FESTED CORPSES.

ITS A PANDEMIC.

COVID CAN SPREAD FROM DEAD BODIES!
Removed
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12/01/2021 15:39:01 7 0
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your caps lock is still stuck on from yesterday!
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12/01/2021 15:50:57 2 1
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STOP SHOUTING!
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AMc
12/01/2021 15:32:09 18 1
bbc
It's interesting how it's almost inferred that Government needs to step in.
Local Authorities should be taking the lead here and providing some kind of control/caps, but...

In both life AND death we have to take responsibility for ourselves. There are a myriad of insurance schemes to cover funeral costs that cost no more than a weekly lottery ticket. Those on the breadline have Gov' safety nets.
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12/01/2021 15:49:57 4 0
bbc
I have set up a life assurance policy, specifically intended to make a lump sum immediately available for funeral costs; and it carries a guarantee that the eventual payout will never be less than the total premiums paid in (as long as I keep the policy in force). I can't lose, and I commend this solution (or alternatively either a funeral plan or a prepaid funeral) to others.
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12/01/2021 15:12:34 22 1
bbc
Donate your body to science. Done.
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12/01/2021 15:33:34 9 0
bbc
Not that easy - My Dad did and as the Hospital on the Isle of Wight after initially wanting it could not use it - we had to pay to transport to St Georges in London. I did suggest as he worked for the railways and had free passes I took him on the train but apparently that was not appropriate.
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12/01/2021 15:40:09 5 0
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You could ask if the ghost train would take him, apologies for the grave humour.
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12/01/2021 15:12:34 22 1
bbc
Donate your body to science. Done.
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12/01/2021 15:33:35 4 0
bbc
Currently due to covid they are not accepting donations of bodies. I just looked online. This might change but it is the case today.

You can save money by doing direct cremation for example.
This website was quite enlightening: httpp://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=the-funeral-and-burial

I'm very sorry for all who've lost loved ones especially in these already stressful times.
1
12/01/2021 15:05:20 15 4
bbc
Do you think some undertakers are taking advantage of the pandemic? PPE manufacturers and distributers did, as did the alcohol handwash makers and the shops who sold them. The unacceptable face of capitalism?
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AMc
12/01/2021 15:33:52 0 1
bbc
But no doubt you want capitalist taxes to pay for it.

Yep, heard it all before.
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12/01/2021 15:35:42 3 1
bbc
OH
so do people not expect their elderly relatives to die, as far as I am aware no one has yet cheated the grime reaper to date.
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12/01/2021 15:38:35 0 1
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Death comes to us all in the end!
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12/01/2021 15:36:49 3 2
bbc
Zoroastrian ritual exposure of the dead is the way forward.

Completely free, environmentally friendly and feeds local wildlife too.
Use deceased people as compost, it's more environmentally friendly. I don't care what happens to my body once I'm dead as I've no use for it any more. Mourn the passing soul, not the left over husk. Removed
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12/01/2021 15:35:42 3 1
bbc
OH
so do people not expect their elderly relatives to die, as far as I am aware no one has yet cheated the grime reaper to date.
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12/01/2021 15:38:35 0 1
bbc
Death comes to us all in the end!
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12/01/2021 15:44:54 0 0
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That was exactly his point ... ...
DO WHAT THEY DO IN INDIA, IT WILL SAVE LANDSPACE.

JUST DIG A MASS GRAVE AND INCINERATE THE COVID FESTED CORPSES.

ITS A PANDEMIC.

COVID CAN SPREAD FROM DEAD BODIES!
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12/01/2021 15:39:01 7 0
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your caps lock is still stuck on from yesterday!
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12/01/2021 15:33:34 9 0
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Not that easy - My Dad did and as the Hospital on the Isle of Wight after initially wanting it could not use it - we had to pay to transport to St Georges in London. I did suggest as he worked for the railways and had free passes I took him on the train but apparently that was not appropriate.
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12/01/2021 15:40:09 5 0
bbc
You could ask if the ghost train would take him, apologies for the grave humour.
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12/01/2021 15:38:35 0 1
bbc
Death comes to us all in the end!
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12/01/2021 15:44:54 0 0
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That was exactly his point ... ...
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12/01/2021 15:45:15 16 0
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My wife recently passed away after suffering with MS. She wanted to help research into this terrible disease so she had previously agreed that her body would be donated to MS research. They looked after everything.

I have left my body to Science to help young doctors in their learning and research.

The recipients of the bodies will cremate them for you for free jus fill in the form.
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AMc
12/01/2021 15:32:09 18 1
bbc
It's interesting how it's almost inferred that Government needs to step in.
Local Authorities should be taking the lead here and providing some kind of control/caps, but...

In both life AND death we have to take responsibility for ourselves. There are a myriad of insurance schemes to cover funeral costs that cost no more than a weekly lottery ticket. Those on the breadline have Gov' safety nets.
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12/01/2021 15:49:57 4 0
bbc
I have set up a life assurance policy, specifically intended to make a lump sum immediately available for funeral costs; and it carries a guarantee that the eventual payout will never be less than the total premiums paid in (as long as I keep the policy in force). I can't lose, and I commend this solution (or alternatively either a funeral plan or a prepaid funeral) to others.
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12/01/2021 16:31:46 1 4
bbc
Fine advice to those that can afford it.

Another £20 here another £20 there.

Many can't afford the basic bills in life. How can they afford the cost of dying?

Have you tried living of UC or Zero hours contract? Try it.

This will only get worse.
DO WHAT THEY DO IN INDIA, IT WILL SAVE LANDSPACE.

JUST DIG A MASS GRAVE AND INCINERATE THE COVID FESTED CORPSES.

ITS A PANDEMIC.

COVID CAN SPREAD FROM DEAD BODIES!
Removed
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12/01/2021 15:50:57 2 1
bbc
STOP SHOUTING!
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12/01/2021 16:10:49 4 8
bbc
THIS ARTICLE ONLYM AKES SENSE IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH A HOMELESS PERSON WHOSE RELATIVES HAVE NOT BEEN INDENTIFIED.

OR A PERSON LIVING IN A JAM SITUATION.

THE FACT PEOPLE INHERIT AND DONT WANT TO PAY FOR FUNERALS IS TELLING.

GOV SHOULD BE OFFERING A FREE INCINERATION SERVICE.

FAMILY SHOULD BE GIVEN 30 DAYS NOTICE TO MAKE A FULL PAYMENT IF NOT THEN THE GOV SEND THEM OFF TO BE BBQD!
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12/01/2021 16:12:19 6 1
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Don’t know where they get there figures from. See many firms offering a service well below what is quoted in this article. More alternative facts.
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12/01/2021 17:54:07 1 1
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But its all the extras - my mother was inconsiderate enough to die at the weekend - extra cost to remove the body - couldn't really leave it until Monday
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12/01/2021 15:29:10 32 9
bbc
Everybody is keen to get a share of any money left but usually no one wants to pay. Well done those people who pay for their funeral themselves whilst alive. Shame on those people who have the money but rely on the State Funeral Grant.
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12/01/2021 16:15:48 22 2
bbc
Don’t judge / shame.

Circumstances vary. I’ve just lost both my parents. One to Parkinson’s dementia & Covid, the other to cancer. Both had mental ill health due to dad’s long years of suffering & disability & never did a funeral plan - couldn’t afford it either.

Funerals cost nearly £9,000. Luckily I could pay.

Many others will have similar stories so please don’t judge
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12/01/2021 16:36:11 4 6
bbc
There are too many irresponsible people around...thinking the state will pay
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12/01/2021 17:00:02 7 0
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That's must be hard for you right now. My condolences for your loss.
Money or not, I'm sure you have some very happy memories.
Your parents would be proud of you for taking care of them. Well done.
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12/01/2021 16:29:11 9 6
bbc
There's a wider story to this that most have missed. This is yet another inevitability that people can no longer afford.

Zero hour contracts, fire and re-hire pratices, in-work poverity are all taking it's toil. If you're using Amazon, etc have you asked the person whose delivering your parcel how much they earn? Ask and you'll understand the reasons.

This is something that will only get worse.
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12/01/2021 16:30:52 14 6
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This responsibility is up to each individual in society. Not councils or Government or society!!

We all know at some point we will pop our clogs so it’s our responsibility to put enough money aside to pay for this. It’s not that expensive.

Any excuse for people to moan wanting handouts!
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12/01/2021 16:36:21 8 9
bbc
And no-one is allowed to die until they've saved up enough for a funeral?
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12/01/2021 16:42:01 0 2
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Yes in theory - but costs are rising massively and what do you do if you are offspring whose parents DIDN’T put aside money because they couldn’t afford it? Eg. on disability benefits- not everyone is in a position to save!

And right now, in middle of pandemic, people have lost jobs / furloughed etc and are struggling to pay. That’s the point.

This is the economy right now :-(
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12/01/2021 17:15:42 0 1
bbc
There should be a state funded option, which basically just disposes of the body, a lower cost version of a pauper's funeral but without the stigma.

When I go, I would rather my savings are used by friends and relatives to better their lives rather than a big chunk of it literally going up in smoke. By then I will be past caring.
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12/01/2021 15:49:57 4 0
bbc
I have set up a life assurance policy, specifically intended to make a lump sum immediately available for funeral costs; and it carries a guarantee that the eventual payout will never be less than the total premiums paid in (as long as I keep the policy in force). I can't lose, and I commend this solution (or alternatively either a funeral plan or a prepaid funeral) to others.
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12/01/2021 16:31:46 1 4
bbc
Fine advice to those that can afford it.

Another £20 here another £20 there.

Many can't afford the basic bills in life. How can they afford the cost of dying?

Have you tried living of UC or Zero hours contract? Try it.

This will only get worse.
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12/01/2021 20:12:12 0 0
bbc
They will not live on UC or a ZHC all their lives, best they try and improve themselves and work harder and defer gratification until they are better placed.
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12/01/2021 16:15:48 22 2
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Don’t judge / shame.

Circumstances vary. I’ve just lost both my parents. One to Parkinson’s dementia & Covid, the other to cancer. Both had mental ill health due to dad’s long years of suffering & disability & never did a funeral plan - couldn’t afford it either.

Funerals cost nearly £9,000. Luckily I could pay.

Many others will have similar stories so please don’t judge
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12/01/2021 16:36:11 4 6
bbc
There are too many irresponsible people around...thinking the state will pay
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13/01/2021 09:23:34 0 0
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In a situation whereby a person has worked and paid taxes all their life, It is not unreasonable for the state to pay for their funeral, Judge yourself before judging others!
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12/01/2021 15:17:10 27 4
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Maybe this pandemic will encourage people to save a bit more, some how I doubt it.
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12/01/2021 16:36:14 6 9
bbc
If we're all relaying on Amazon, et al to deliver our goods, then they'll be a lot of people who won't be able to save.

This is not an issue for those on a decent salary. For those who don't earn a great deal, in work poverty is increasingly spreading it's way through UK society to pay for those on a decent salary or pension.
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12/01/2021 16:30:52 14 6
bbc
This responsibility is up to each individual in society. Not councils or Government or society!!

We all know at some point we will pop our clogs so it’s our responsibility to put enough money aside to pay for this. It’s not that expensive.

Any excuse for people to moan wanting handouts!
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12/01/2021 16:36:21 8 9
bbc
And no-one is allowed to die until they've saved up enough for a funeral?
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12/01/2021 16:46:09 4 0
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You should always have money put aside!! Stop trying to take away people’s own responsibility!!!
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13/01/2021 09:27:26 0 0
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" You will become dead Marines. And then you will be in a world of ****. because Marines are not allowed to die without permission."
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12/01/2021 16:36:30 16 4
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Individual responsibility
If no cash then govt incineration at lowest cost
Simple
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12/01/2021 16:37:28 3 7
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The costs are hard for those left behind, even if there might be something eventually.

The funeral has to be paid for within a month, but even if there’s a house, etc probate is taking months and then have to sell the house - split between siblings, pay off care home (most of house value!) - meanwhile we have our own bills, maybe lost jobs etc.

It’s really a dire time for many, many people.
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12/01/2021 18:08:00 0 2
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My brother died and his wife had to pay for the funeral before the service. That was from one of the biggest FF.
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12/01/2021 16:30:52 14 6
bbc
This responsibility is up to each individual in society. Not councils or Government or society!!

We all know at some point we will pop our clogs so it’s our responsibility to put enough money aside to pay for this. It’s not that expensive.

Any excuse for people to moan wanting handouts!
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12/01/2021 16:42:01 0 2
bbc
Yes in theory - but costs are rising massively and what do you do if you are offspring whose parents DIDN’T put aside money because they couldn’t afford it? Eg. on disability benefits- not everyone is in a position to save!

And right now, in middle of pandemic, people have lost jobs / furloughed etc and are struggling to pay. That’s the point.

This is the economy right now :-(
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12/01/2021 16:47:23 4 0
bbc
Again you are trying to pass the buck. It’s on everyone to save and put money away. No one else’s responsibility!!
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12/01/2021 16:36:21 8 9
bbc
And no-one is allowed to die until they've saved up enough for a funeral?
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12/01/2021 16:46:09 4 0
bbc
You should always have money put aside!! Stop trying to take away people’s own responsibility!!!
37
12/01/2021 16:42:01 0 2
bbc
Yes in theory - but costs are rising massively and what do you do if you are offspring whose parents DIDN’T put aside money because they couldn’t afford it? Eg. on disability benefits- not everyone is in a position to save!

And right now, in middle of pandemic, people have lost jobs / furloughed etc and are struggling to pay. That’s the point.

This is the economy right now :-(
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12/01/2021 16:47:23 4 0
bbc
Again you are trying to pass the buck. It’s on everyone to save and put money away. No one else’s responsibility!!
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12/01/2021 16:56:36 6 1
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I remember an old episode of ‘The Likely Lads’ when Terry said that he wanted the following to be engraved on his headstone,

‘Here lies Terry Collier’.

‘Died, none the bloody wiser’.

That sounds like a splendid synopsis of humanity to me!
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12/01/2021 19:59:40 2 1
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Or Milligan’s “Told you I was Ill” ?
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12/01/2021 16:57:43 4 4
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GOV SHOULD OFFER A FREE BBQ SERVICE.

IF YOU DONT WANT TO PAY FOR THE FUNERAL FINE.

DIG UP + TOSS UP + LIGHTUP.
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12/01/2021 16:59:35 26 4
bbc
Maybe those that say they can't afford to bury Grandma should think about this before they buy their 42" tvs, smartphones, SUVs, long haul holidays, games consoles, take aways etc etc.
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12/01/2021 19:34:10 8 4
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Why isn’t Grandma responsible for paying for her own funeral?
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13/01/2021 07:21:18 0 1
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42" TV is just a standard TV
Smartphones are pretty much essential these days, and a lower range one isnt that expensive
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13/01/2021 11:12:55 0 0
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You mean brick up Grandma behind the telly.

Good idea.
?????
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12/01/2021 16:15:48 22 2
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Don’t judge / shame.

Circumstances vary. I’ve just lost both my parents. One to Parkinson’s dementia & Covid, the other to cancer. Both had mental ill health due to dad’s long years of suffering & disability & never did a funeral plan - couldn’t afford it either.

Funerals cost nearly £9,000. Luckily I could pay.

Many others will have similar stories so please don’t judge
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12/01/2021 17:00:02 7 0
bbc
That's must be hard for you right now. My condolences for your loss.
Money or not, I'm sure you have some very happy memories.
Your parents would be proud of you for taking care of them. Well done.
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12/01/2021 17:00:24 20 8
bbc
You have 60, 70 or 80 years to prepare for the one certainly attached to life...death. Sadly it seems the same group who’ve spent that life living off others also want them to cough up for their funeral.
Time for recycling centres to add a new container
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12/01/2021 17:48:33 3 1
bbc
Soylent Green comes to mind.
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13/01/2021 09:25:04 0 0
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People's circumstances change. If my wife or I had died 2 years ago, we couldn't have afforded a funeral - having lost her income due to ill health and mine due to unexpected unemployment, the money in our bank accounts was eaten away, then but we got behind with bills. Now we are doing ok, but it took time. No-one knows what someone has been through and how their finances have been affected.
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12/01/2021 17:02:13 0 1
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17:00 - Tessa

Ouch!
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12/01/2021 17:10:53 13 2
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Funerals are a waste of time and money. Largely just another cause of stress, and in some cases financial hardship, to those who are already going through a very difficult time.
The sooner they are consigned with the rest of outdated superstitions the better. If people want to hold a wake to mark the passing then fine, but wasting good money on a casket which is burnt or buried makes no sense.
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12/01/2021 17:18:50 8 1
bbc
Or let families decide for themselves.
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12/01/2021 16:30:52 14 6
bbc
This responsibility is up to each individual in society. Not councils or Government or society!!

We all know at some point we will pop our clogs so it’s our responsibility to put enough money aside to pay for this. It’s not that expensive.

Any excuse for people to moan wanting handouts!
47
12/01/2021 17:15:42 0 1
bbc
There should be a state funded option, which basically just disposes of the body, a lower cost version of a pauper's funeral but without the stigma.

When I go, I would rather my savings are used by friends and relatives to better their lives rather than a big chunk of it literally going up in smoke. By then I will be past caring.
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12/01/2021 17:16:45 30 11
bbc
Expect the Left to demand State-funding of funerals next. They already believe taxpayers should feed their kids.
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12/01/2021 19:32:54 10 14
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That’s not true is it? Just another cheap political jibe instead of anything interesting to say.
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13/01/2021 08:25:20 3 0
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and the right expect taxpayers to hand billions to big business .vermin
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13/01/2021 21:05:50 0 0
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not impressed with your comment. not good.
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12/01/2021 17:10:53 13 2
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Funerals are a waste of time and money. Largely just another cause of stress, and in some cases financial hardship, to those who are already going through a very difficult time.
The sooner they are consigned with the rest of outdated superstitions the better. If people want to hold a wake to mark the passing then fine, but wasting good money on a casket which is burnt or buried makes no sense.
49
12/01/2021 17:18:50 8 1
bbc
Or let families decide for themselves.
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12/01/2021 17:31:27 4 0
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No objection to that, but at the moment the minimum cost is way too high, and there is far too much social pressure on people to pay out for a more elaborate service and burial.

If people want to spend thousands on a sent off it is their choice, but nobody should feel obliged to spend more than the cost of the fuel plus the cost of a pot for the ashes.
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BFM
12/01/2021 17:28:48 25 3
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OK lets abandon any sort of personal financial responsibility for anything. Get the printing presses rolling and let the state just pay for everything forever.

More than anything we need to keep feeding the obesity epidemic among schoolchildren especially the poor who have twice the obesity rates of the better off.
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12/01/2021 17:18:50 8 1
bbc
Or let families decide for themselves.
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12/01/2021 17:31:27 4 0
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No objection to that, but at the moment the minimum cost is way too high, and there is far too much social pressure on people to pay out for a more elaborate service and burial.

If people want to spend thousands on a sent off it is their choice, but nobody should feel obliged to spend more than the cost of the fuel plus the cost of a pot for the ashes.
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12/01/2021 21:12:18 0 0
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That’s the bit that sticks in my throat. The funeral directors rely on snobbery and what you are prepared to display for the attendees who are family, friends, colleagues and neighbours. Then there is the purvey.
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12/01/2021 17:00:24 20 8
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You have 60, 70 or 80 years to prepare for the one certainly attached to life...death. Sadly it seems the same group who’ve spent that life living off others also want them to cough up for their funeral.
Time for recycling centres to add a new container
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12/01/2021 17:48:33 3 1
bbc
Soylent Green comes to mind.
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12/01/2021 17:49:41 19 2
bbc
Pure Cremations charge around £1000 -£1200. ...My Mum passed away 18 months ago and insisted she didn't want her grandchildren going through a funeral and all that it entails....Pure deal with everything and present you with the ashes at the end ...We then dealt with her ashes the way she wanted
. The funeral business prays on people when they are vulnerable and charge what they like ...Its a con
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13/01/2021 21:04:27 0 0
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the problem is when distressed many people dont think clearly and the funeral companies take advantage of this . its called a distressed sale. you are correct about the cost of pure cremation . which goes to show if it can be done at a fixed price then how do undertakers justify a cremation for a heck of a lot more money the system needs investigating.
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12/01/2021 17:53:43 2 1
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Unfortunately funerals are a business like any other

The laws of supply and demand apply. If demand goes up, supply stays about the same then prices go up
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12/01/2021 16:12:19 6 1
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Don’t know where they get there figures from. See many firms offering a service well below what is quoted in this article. More alternative facts.
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12/01/2021 17:54:07 1 1
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But its all the extras - my mother was inconsiderate enough to die at the weekend - extra cost to remove the body - couldn't really leave it until Monday
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12/01/2021 18:02:27 2 7
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If you have an old wardrobe somewhere in your house that is no longer being used you could just chuck your grandmother or any other member of your family that succumbs to Covid in it and put them next to your wheelie bin, just remember to tag them first for identification purposes
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ike
12/01/2021 18:17:20 6 2
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Not a very good comment to read when you have just had 2 family funerals in the past month,
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12/01/2021 20:05:35 1 0
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Bet you wear a mask ??
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12/01/2021 18:07:42 3 2
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My mate Arbuthnott reckons that if he reaches the stage where he’s vacantly looking at the ceiling while trying to answer a question that he’d instantly forgotten he’ll be someone elses problem.

I didn’t know where to start.
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12/01/2021 16:37:28 3 7
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The costs are hard for those left behind, even if there might be something eventually.

The funeral has to be paid for within a month, but even if there’s a house, etc probate is taking months and then have to sell the house - split between siblings, pay off care home (most of house value!) - meanwhile we have our own bills, maybe lost jobs etc.

It’s really a dire time for many, many people.
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12/01/2021 18:08:00 0 2
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My brother died and his wife had to pay for the funeral before the service. That was from one of the biggest FF.
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12/01/2021 18:02:27 2 7
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If you have an old wardrobe somewhere in your house that is no longer being used you could just chuck your grandmother or any other member of your family that succumbs to Covid in it and put them next to your wheelie bin, just remember to tag them first for identification purposes
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ike
12/01/2021 18:17:20 6 2
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Not a very good comment to read when you have just had 2 family funerals in the past month,
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12/01/2021 18:37:34 3 0
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Time to buy shares in a funeral business
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12/01/2021 18:58:08 4 7
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Basic funeral is £5000
Basic wedding is a fraction of that.

These facts
are what people have most difficulty with coming to terms with

not how to pay the invoices.
Individuals and 2 people running, walking, running or whatever outdoors in open spaces are easy targets for the police. Cowardice really. These people present no risk. The police rarely tackle the tough cases especially with minority groups. Removed
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12/01/2021 19:26:35 3 0
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Even dying is expensive. They reckon the basic cost of a funeral is over £5,000. Make a will and insist that you are properly buried/cremated before any money is dished out or else pay for a no frills cremation up front. People don't like shelling out particularly if its some miserable old in-law.
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12/01/2021 17:16:45 30 11
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Expect the Left to demand State-funding of funerals next. They already believe taxpayers should feed their kids.
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12/01/2021 19:32:54 10 14
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That’s not true is it? Just another cheap political jibe instead of anything interesting to say.
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12/01/2021 20:14:39 4 2
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I love hypocrisy me.
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12/01/2021 16:59:35 26 4
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Maybe those that say they can't afford to bury Grandma should think about this before they buy their 42" tvs, smartphones, SUVs, long haul holidays, games consoles, take aways etc etc.
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12/01/2021 19:34:10 8 4
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Why isn’t Grandma responsible for paying for her own funeral?
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12/01/2021 15:13:36 17 2
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Undertakers have job security the rest of us could only dream of!
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12/01/2021 19:49:59 5 0
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Yes it's a dead certain income
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12/01/2021 19:51:33 9 7
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Oh dear - more sob stories from left wing poor people.

As a proud righty my view is that if you can’t afford a funeral then you shouldn’t be dying in the first place.

And I should probably mention 168 inch TVs too, as us far right types are generally convinced that every poor person has at least three of them.
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12/01/2021 20:18:22 1 1
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Brilliant . I'm going to shamefully use it myself .
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12/01/2021 19:51:34 4 2
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It’s called Life Insurance. This is indeed a hard luck story, but it’s being overplayed via a pandemic. If you can’t cover the cost now, it’s because you deemed it was in the “never never” and wouldn’t have had the resources anyway.
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12/01/2021 19:56:24 6 4
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Or you’re on minimum wage or the basic pension and simply can’t afford it.
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12/01/2021 19:53:43 9 1
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Only 2 certainties in love death and taxes !,!.

When I go want the cheapest possible way out. Happy to be booted of the cliffs at Dover !.
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12/01/2021 20:04:14 3 2
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If you fall in love you die !? Wait till the girlfriend gets wind of the suitcase in the front door cupboard !
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12/01/2021 23:00:37 0 0
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You would be a shipping hazard.
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12/01/2021 19:51:34 4 2
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It’s called Life Insurance. This is indeed a hard luck story, but it’s being overplayed via a pandemic. If you can’t cover the cost now, it’s because you deemed it was in the “never never” and wouldn’t have had the resources anyway.
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12/01/2021 19:56:24 6 4
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Or you’re on minimum wage or the basic pension and simply can’t afford it.
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12/01/2021 16:56:36 6 1
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I remember an old episode of ‘The Likely Lads’ when Terry said that he wanted the following to be engraved on his headstone,

‘Here lies Terry Collier’.

‘Died, none the bloody wiser’.

That sounds like a splendid synopsis of humanity to me!
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12/01/2021 19:59:40 2 1
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Or Milligan’s “Told you I was Ill” ?
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12/01/2021 19:53:43 9 1
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Only 2 certainties in love death and taxes !,!.

When I go want the cheapest possible way out. Happy to be booted of the cliffs at Dover !.
72
12/01/2021 20:04:14 3 2
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If you fall in love you die !? Wait till the girlfriend gets wind of the suitcase in the front door cupboard !
56
12/01/2021 18:02:27 2 7
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If you have an old wardrobe somewhere in your house that is no longer being used you could just chuck your grandmother or any other member of your family that succumbs to Covid in it and put them next to your wheelie bin, just remember to tag them first for identification purposes
73
12/01/2021 20:05:35 1 0
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Bet you wear a mask ??
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12/01/2021 16:31:46 1 4
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Fine advice to those that can afford it.

Another £20 here another £20 there.

Many can't afford the basic bills in life. How can they afford the cost of dying?

Have you tried living of UC or Zero hours contract? Try it.

This will only get worse.
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12/01/2021 20:12:12 0 0
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They will not live on UC or a ZHC all their lives, best they try and improve themselves and work harder and defer gratification until they are better placed.
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12/01/2021 19:32:54 10 14
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That’s not true is it? Just another cheap political jibe instead of anything interesting to say.
75
12/01/2021 20:14:39 4 2
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I love hypocrisy me.
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12/01/2021 20:21:27 1 4
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Evidently.
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12/01/2021 19:51:33 9 7
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Oh dear - more sob stories from left wing poor people.

As a proud righty my view is that if you can’t afford a funeral then you shouldn’t be dying in the first place.

And I should probably mention 168 inch TVs too, as us far right types are generally convinced that every poor person has at least three of them.
76
12/01/2021 20:18:22 1 1
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Brilliant . I'm going to shamefully use it myself .
77
12/01/2021 20:18:54 5 5
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It’s remarkable how callous some types become whilst behind their keyboards cloaked in anonymity.

The article is about people struggling to pay for the funeral of a loved one who’s died suddenly from covid. Their families may have lost their livelihoods, like a million already have, yet many of the cynical highest rated comments on here are “Well if they can afford big TVs” & other tripe.

Nasty.
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12/01/2021 21:36:52 2 1
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Take it as a pinch of salt. The internet is not real.
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12/01/2021 20:20:47 7 3
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The whole business should be nationalised and a set price unless you really want to pay more money to those money grabbing sharks.
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12/01/2021 20:40:41 6 2
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Some of the biggest price increases has been the local authority charges for the crematorium etc not the Funeral Directors fees
75
12/01/2021 20:14:39 4 2
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I love hypocrisy me.
79
12/01/2021 20:21:27 1 4
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Evidently.
78
12/01/2021 20:20:47 7 3
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The whole business should be nationalised and a set price unless you really want to pay more money to those money grabbing sharks.
80
12/01/2021 20:40:41 6 2
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Some of the biggest price increases has been the local authority charges for the crematorium etc not the Funeral Directors fees
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12/01/2021 20:42:19 14 1
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You should be able to get cremated at a hospital crematorium for a minimal fee (maybe £200) and have the ashes delivered to your family's home. Then, when the pandemic is over, hold a really good wake with whatever money you had a for a funeral. That's my plan anyway.
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12/01/2021 21:23:54 3 0
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Hospitals don't have crematoriums.
If they have them hospitals have incinerators used for burning clinical waste, otherwise it is either sent to another hospital in the Trust or contracted out.
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12/01/2021 20:44:11 3 1
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The sad truth is that at £3000 most of us dont have enough to pay for our own funerals. Me included. People flock here to make their fortune. Maybe they all want to be funeral directors?
83
12/01/2021 20:44:34 14 0
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When I die....

I won't give a toss.
When you die i wont give a toss either! Removed
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12/01/2021 21:11:15 2 0
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then someone else will have to find the money. you could always leave yourself to science. its a thought.
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12/01/2021 20:44:34 14 0
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When I die....

I won't give a toss.
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When you die i wont give a toss either! Removed
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12/01/2021 21:11:35 1 0
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now now.play nice.
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12/01/2021 15:12:34 22 1
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Donate your body to science. Done.
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12/01/2021 20:55:43 0 0
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If everyone did that they would be getting over 600,000 bodies a year. I'm sure that's too many for their needs.
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13/01/2021 09:25:32 0 0
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Soylent Green?
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13/01/2021 11:10:35 0 0
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Not really. All one needs are some Fava Beans and a nice Chianti.
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12/01/2021 21:09:14 20 1
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its time this greedy industry were looked at. you can not justify the greedy charges the sums just dont add up. the government need to intervene now and cut the charges by 50% they will still make a profit. no funeral should be more than two grand. most are noe 4/5 grand .can someone please justify the cost? you cant.
83
12/01/2021 20:44:34 14 0
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When I die....

I won't give a toss.
87
12/01/2021 21:11:15 2 0
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then someone else will have to find the money. you could always leave yourself to science. its a thought.
When you die i wont give a toss either! Removed
88
12/01/2021 21:11:35 1 0
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now now.play nice.
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12/01/2021 17:31:27 4 0
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No objection to that, but at the moment the minimum cost is way too high, and there is far too much social pressure on people to pay out for a more elaborate service and burial.

If people want to spend thousands on a sent off it is their choice, but nobody should feel obliged to spend more than the cost of the fuel plus the cost of a pot for the ashes.
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12/01/2021 21:12:18 0 0
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That’s the bit that sticks in my throat. The funeral directors rely on snobbery and what you are prepared to display for the attendees who are family, friends, colleagues and neighbours. Then there is the purvey.
81
12/01/2021 20:42:19 14 1
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You should be able to get cremated at a hospital crematorium for a minimal fee (maybe £200) and have the ashes delivered to your family's home. Then, when the pandemic is over, hold a really good wake with whatever money you had a for a funeral. That's my plan anyway.
90
12/01/2021 21:23:54 3 0
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Hospitals don't have crematoriums.
If they have them hospitals have incinerators used for burning clinical waste, otherwise it is either sent to another hospital in the Trust or contracted out.
91
12/01/2021 21:35:40 4 2
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I'm donating my body to science when I die. Funerals are held to help people grieve.
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13/01/2021 06:06:19 0 3
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Just because you donate your body does not mean it is wanted at any given time.
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12/01/2021 20:18:54 5 5
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It’s remarkable how callous some types become whilst behind their keyboards cloaked in anonymity.

The article is about people struggling to pay for the funeral of a loved one who’s died suddenly from covid. Their families may have lost their livelihoods, like a million already have, yet many of the cynical highest rated comments on here are “Well if they can afford big TVs” & other tripe.

Nasty.
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12/01/2021 21:36:52 2 1
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Take it as a pinch of salt. The internet is not real.
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12/01/2021 22:06:11 10 0
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My mum the widow of a miner died aged 94 nearly 20 years ago but on her death I discovered she had been paying for an insurance policy to pay for her funeral for decades, never expecting to live to such an age. Her father had died in a workhouse hospital and received a paupers burial and she was determined to ensure she did not suffer the same indignity.
Moral
Plan and don’t depend on the state.
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13/01/2021 09:53:44 2 0
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you only need a savings account, no plan needed, then once you get enough, write what you want to be done in your will
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12/01/2021 22:10:53 4 11
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Get Marcus Rashford on the case. He seems to be running the country now. If he has his way the tax payer can just pick up the funeral bill. There are many that don’t contribute a penny in life so why pay to deal with your body in death
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13/01/2021 07:09:44 0 1
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I can see your funeral will be ultra low cost, no one will want to come to it. Off to the skip you go and good riddance mate.
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12/01/2021 22:29:46 7 0
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Part of the issue is there are two big players in this and they set the prices and they set them high. The "extras" are unbelievable - £25 for a cardboard tube for the ashes! I found the article by Martin Lewis very revealing.
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12/01/2021 19:53:43 9 1
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Only 2 certainties in love death and taxes !,!.

When I go want the cheapest possible way out. Happy to be booted of the cliffs at Dover !.
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12/01/2021 23:00:37 0 0
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You would be a shipping hazard.
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13/01/2021 03:00:54 10 1
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You do not need any funeral. Absolutely no nonsense and flummery. Certainly no party nonsense. Just cremation or burial fees. You want the messing about then you pay for it. The dead don't care! This is not any 'need' whatever. Rich or so called poor.
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13/01/2021 09:31:56 0 1
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how else are psychotic w....ayward individuals going to find out how to chat up?
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13/01/2021 09:34:21 1 0
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if no one has any funerals, the funeral business will be in grave danger.
91
12/01/2021 21:35:40 4 2
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I'm donating my body to science when I die. Funerals are held to help people grieve.
98
13/01/2021 06:06:19 0 3
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Just because you donate your body does not mean it is wanted at any given time.
94
12/01/2021 22:10:53 4 11
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Get Marcus Rashford on the case. He seems to be running the country now. If he has his way the tax payer can just pick up the funeral bill. There are many that don’t contribute a penny in life so why pay to deal with your body in death
99
13/01/2021 07:09:44 0 1
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I can see your funeral will be ultra low cost, no one will want to come to it. Off to the skip you go and good riddance mate.
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12/01/2021 16:59:35 26 4
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Maybe those that say they can't afford to bury Grandma should think about this before they buy their 42" tvs, smartphones, SUVs, long haul holidays, games consoles, take aways etc etc.
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13/01/2021 07:21:18 0 1
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42" TV is just a standard TV
Smartphones are pretty much essential these days, and a lower range one isnt that expensive
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13/01/2021 09:22:53 0 0
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Ok,so first of all I get the joke you're making but whys it up to the grandkids to pay, surely its grand job or their kids.

And as you say, a 42 inch tv is maybe what 200 quid (my 50 was only a bit dearer than that). And the cost of a smart phone contract is probably the same as an old landline phone bill. Games consoles etc are dear tbf but are a 1 off payment.... that's nothing compared to 9k