Covid: Protect family incomes, Starmer urges ministers
11/01/2021 | news | politics | 3,629
The Labour leader calls for tougher coronavirus restrictions and says help for low earners must continue.
Our bin collection has just been cut. Can anyone tell me how this equates to a
5% increase in council tax.
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other social services may we have increased.
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Where do you live?
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Has it been cut or reduced to improve recycling rates to help the environment?
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bin men are paid well...unions don't let east europeans take the jobs
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Because Boris spaffed the rest of your tax income up the wall on a test and trace system and on contracts for his and tory mates
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Don't post RUBBISH (pun intended) over the next 15 years the average council will be spending about 60 per cent of its income on social care and the background to this is that the average council has only 50 per cent of the income it had ten years ago (austerity) think before you post tat please
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Simply because the government have once again reduced the amount of money they give back to local councils. The usual mantra is make efficiency savings. Of course once you have done that you have no where to go. However, we wouldn’t want the rich boys suffering from tax hikes which is the way it should be done.
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Your council tax is paying for the people with no shame on benefits and furlough sucking the system dry
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You're lucky you don't live in Croydon (south London) where the loonie left council has squandered millions on mismanagment, vanity projects etc. Labour love a handout that someone else has to pay for!
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Indirect, non means tested tax by Central government on the British public.
Reduce funding to local councils forcing increased council taxes.
These hit those on lower incomes particularly hard, those with zero wage increases these years.
Any on a 'Index linked' pension will look forwards to a 0.5% increase in April (CPI last September).
Triple lock will see state pensions fare better, unlikely 5%.
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Got out of bed yet ?
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What a lovely individual you are.
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That is uncalled for. Disrespectful. Hateful. Immature and indicates that you are pathetic beyond stupid.

Complaint.
I see the fantasy Capitol Hill mob are out in force today.
I wish they would move to the US and leave us in peace.
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How buildings did the DC protestors burn down?
How many businesses were ransacked?
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let uk have the BLM mob
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"... where over four million children grow up in poverty."
Is that Playstation poverty? Or are there 4m children starving to death because their parents need a 65" TV, a Sky subscription, and the latest mobile phone before food?
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How many of you Comrades believe, deep down, that Sir Keir Starmer is a 'Tory'?

After all you believe that 'Blair & Brown were Tories' too

In which case you must therefore believe that 'Labour' hasn't actually won a general election since 1974 (Harold Wilson)

So perhaps 'socialism' is dead?
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Seafood companies going bust, just the start of Brexit:
Wo will pay thier wages???
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-food-exports-scotland-fisheries-red-tape-b1785205.html
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People like you are why public discourse has disintegrated to this rubbish because; based on no information you make a massive assumption on what is being reported on even though you obviously havent read the article. And people will listen to this and take the opposite side of the argument based on an assumption... People like you is why social media needs regulating
"People like you is why social media needs regulating"

Apart from your pathetic grammar, YOU are the reason why debate in this Country has died. Someone makes a comment, you and the other idiots on here, immediately attack the individual on a personal level instead of addressing the issue. I thought you loony lefties would have learned your lesson when you stopped people discussing immigration.
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"YOU are the reason why debate in this Country has died. Someone makes a comment, you and the other idiots on here, immediately attack the individual on a personal level instead of addressing the issue. I thought you loony lefties would have learned your lesson."

Oh the hypocrisy, you literally just attacked me personally and proved no evidence to support the original comment. Wise up
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Yep your ilk have a big problem with IMMIGRANTS we know and we know it will be your favourite discussion Thank God for the mods
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So this comment is acceptable is it?

"You are right.
No more benefits until we see starving children dying in the streets of England.
The unemployed should be forced to work in the fields for their benefits like in Alabama and they can take their kids with them.
No more free lunches."

If you find that acceptable then shame on you. Godforbid you were in that situation yourself.
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Can I point out to all the Tory apologists who come on here.
The Tory Party are in power with an 80 seat majority. And have been the governing Party for 10+ years.
If there is a problem ( and there is ) it is with them and their supporters.
What more do you want, own it. !!!!
There was a decision to recover from the Blair-Brown financial catastrophe over medium long term with QE and prudent constraint. It worked during 10 years.

You are unfortunately spreading moron news which misleads and should be considered as bad and evil as Trump by other name. You are a Trumpette. Could even preclude with 'S'.

You serve the bog and must plug your bottom.
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The private sector won't be getting a pay rise in most cases, so unfortunately I don't think we should expect any different for the public sector.
Yes let's keep the division going eh.

I suppose we're all 'leavers' now, so we can't use that one?

Good old private v public sector is the obvious one to continue with.

Don't forget young v old, north v south, employed v unemployed, covid robots v covid rebels (got to be extremes), racists v do gooders (see previous), oh nearly forgot left v right.

Did I forget any?
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I wish people would stop talking about "poverty" in the UK. Unless you have been to the backstreets of Calcutta or the hovels of the Congo you will not have witnessed people literally starving and dying on the streets. That is real poverty, not what passes for poverty here which often means not being able to afford the latest upgrade to one's smart phone or pack of 20 B&H to smoke while "gaming".
Most of the unemployed single mothers I see are overweight and if not are drug abusers. I saw a woman on the BBC local news using a food bank who looked morbidly obese. Removed
Starmer is unelectable, nothing personal but now that's he's known as 'Captain Hindsight', no one can take him seriously, not as bad as 'Paddy pants down' or 'Abacus Abbott' though. Removed
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Strange name he’s been given by the right wing quitter cult, when everything he says to boris strangely happens a few days later.
If you really want to know what’s going to happen next listen to Sie Keir, ignore Boris lies and denials, a few days later he’ll make another u turn.
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We ignored boris initial relaxing of the rules and didn't meet any family over xmas It was obvious it was a bad idea - hindsight has got nothing to do with it
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Indeed.

As soon as UK politicians mention 'poverty' in the UK, you know they are nothing other than socialist grifters seeking to create division.

They have no idea what real 'poverty' looks like.

Any 'poverty' there is in the UK is the result of poor parents making (repeatedly) poor spending decisions. Giving them more money won't help that. They'll just make different (poor) decisions.
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When Biden finally cracks down on the far right and expensive American financed far right YouTube propaganda starts vanishing we can go back to being a democracy? Removed
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Sure we can, for balance though we also need to get all the left wing virtue signalling drivel removed from Instagram / Tick Tock otherwise we will instill a whole generation with the idea that if you shout key words loud enough you can shut down debate..
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I don't no why people bother with 'Food bank', I've been with 'Nationwide' for Years and they have been excellent.

Just go on Uswitch.
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yes I spelt 'know' wrong.
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Say something interesting/informative/original or shut it. Enough of you idiots trying to score cheap political points.
"Say something interesting/informative/original or shut it."

Ok, I will:

BBC moderators that are biased should be sacked.

Oh, sorry,. that's just you,. SHut it.
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Yes there may be short term problems but UK taxpayer will save billions when Ireland ie reunited ......it’s a win win for both the Irish and the British Removed
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So please explain how the Protestant community will willingly accept this scenario?
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Still a generation away at least. The billions wont go away, it'll be RoI that will have to pay. Having pumped billions into the RoI with the UKs help, I'm sure EU27 will relish the next bale-out.
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Hahahahahhahahaha. I understand that anyone applying for a public sector post had to have earned their 'inefficiency' certificate. Although some of the front line staff work hard sometimes, it really is a gravy train compared to the private sector, where employment is much lees secure and benefits much less generous.
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well well well

For all this poverty in this country, makes you wonder why the NHS hasn't been overwhelmed with 10000s of starving and malnourished kids

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Because of the generosity of people donating to food banks is keeping them alive, a 5% increase in council tax will see those donations reduce and more families relying on food banks, but I'm alright Jack.
Food banks ????
Spunger banks
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Here comes Captain Hindsight.
Brandishing Saturday's winning lottery ticket.
Calling out BoJo for not buying a ticket with those numbers last week.
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In places 'far far away' people ae smashing into the 'Rich & Powerful' Ivory Towers !!!

The Oppressed ALWAYS find a way to 'STICK IT' to the Oppressors, one way or the other.
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Labour won't get back until a leader has the guts to put the emphasis on British Nationals for the scarce resources available and taking a firm hand with all the assorted flotsam that's washed up on our shores of late
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I worked for many years in Nigeria, and when you see the children of Port Harcourt, then you can tell me about poverty!!!!!

Spot on, if the empire was so bad, why does half of it live here , and the other half try to get across the channel or hijack a ship on a daily basis
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Because we´ve made a hogs ass of where they live !!
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It was bad because we used to machine gun people who disagreed.

If the best Boris can do is compare us to poor kids in the slums of Nigeria then we are truly £%$%%$£^&*
HYS says 'beat them harder'.

At least trumps rightwing thugs are out of the Whitehouse.
UK next.
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Ours only been in a year and the Economy is wrecked.
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But the Tories won the election fair and square. Your not suggesting denying that they won are you.?
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reading the comments on here i bet most of you whish mr trump woukd come over and take control he needs another job
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Sack biased BBC Moderators

Poverty is poverty. If you change the definition of the word depending on the Country it is being used in/about then you are simply lying to yourself and others.

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Then I suggest you have a word this government because they did exactly that, when the poverty figures were looking bad they merely redefined what poverty is.
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20% of Brits were in poverty before Covid.

I dread to think what the % is now.
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tory Liar - led by the best.
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14.5 million were in relative low income AHC (22%), also at a similar level to the year before.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn07096/
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Government keeps doubling down. All they have is fear and the big stick to increasing whack everyone with. They are spending obscene amounts on this project. Then use the easy smear of ‘people aren’t following the rules’ to give themselves an alibi.

They are desperate for a plausible exit strategy because they know the consequences if a shift in public sentiment starts to gain momentum.
What?????

Are you one of the morons who doesn't believe millions are hospitalised and dying from Covid all over the World?
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Somerset investments owned by Rees Mogg 'Events like Covid happen once in a generation and offer super opportunities for the investor'
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Bad is good isn't it tories ?
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Fortunately the govt didn't listen to Starmer when he demanded we should follow Wales into that disastrous '2 week!' firebreak, that didn't work.
They should continue to ignore his self-promotion posturing.
That would be 'promoting' in English.
Tripe.
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Agree, we needed to close borders much sooner in this pandemic and introduce the negative test to travel earlier than we have done.
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Guys, using 'Cpt. Hindsight' is the mark of a noob.

Changing 'Keir' to 'sneer' is equally redtop - sorry but there y'go.
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Benny hill....Brilliant.......but not sure it’s ok to say these days
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After listening to Starmer today, he is a Tory and always has been.
Ah we voted for him, so we own it
Maybe we can get Corbyn back for a laugh
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How BJ can mouth off about warning about complacency when HE' etc.

He is a Lying old-etonian tory.

Sacked for it, Lying daily.
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Garbage? Hmm so another one of those allergic to facts then...
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What a joke, a family of 4 plus, all on benefits (taking rent, C/Tax etc. into consideration) were earning more than the Pte soldiers I had to manage (who had families), disgraceful. Benefits should be a short term solution, not a way of life (except for the real needy). Also, if you are on benefits, it's irresponsible to keep having kids. They all seem to have latest tech too, so hardly skint.
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No I disagree..... it has to be an island of Ireland economy going forward, the majority there want to stay in the eu

The imf EU27 un USA Biden will All protect Dublin and so they should

We have to help protect Dublin tax receipts

It’s time for a united ireland ????32
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Protect Dublin tax receipts.....

What you mean is continue to allow Dublin to break the rules to get a few pennies from American Tech Companies whilst denying the rest of Europe their fair tax on sales and revenue.

Very sustainable that model - what do you think mf?
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Captian Hindsight - Mr Indecision
The man is pathetic
say one thing one day then changes his mind
insists the Government do this that and the other with no suggestions how
wants things doing the the Government have already said they are doing
the mans on another planet
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Oh Dear Billboy, HYS's most pedantic crusader, Are you Jeremy Corbyn? Removed
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The government are already going further than previous Labour governments did.
Kier Starmer MUST go further in demanding that the government goes further.

Ooh this is easy! Go further! Go further!
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The Government are rushing vaccination as a desperate measure & botching it - they each need 2 doses within 28 days to be effective but no-one is going to get that.
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I wish people would stop talking about "poverty" in the UK. Unless you have been to the backstreets of Calcutta or the hovels of the Congo you will not have witnessed people literally starving and dying on the streets. That is real poverty, not what passes for poverty here which often means not being able to afford the latest upgrade to one's smart phone or pack of 20 B&H to smoke while "gaming".
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Oh no Dodds has wind again
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Wait till labour bots finds out who the new chairman of BBC?
Enjoy'

Sharp donated more than £400,000 to the conservative party.

Been posting that for a week speedy ?? ??
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I'd like to know who at the bbc selects news items that are able to be conversed on. It seems to me it is mainly storylines that will solicit most anti government comments.
I'd also like to know who oversees the "moderators". I entered a complaint long before Xmas to find out why a comment is deemed unacceptable by one but not by another on a different day. The only response from BBC has been 2 messages telling me that they apologise for the longer wait than usual to respond but basically are too busy. Totally out of control. Removed
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‘President Trump will be our greatest ally after Brexit’ - mogg.

Same mogg who later compared Sturgeon to trump ;)

Spives and tories - inseperable.
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Put up council tax 10% in areas that voted to leave the EU.

Works for me.

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Do you have a red wetneck?

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
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The government should start by putting a limit on the interest credit card companies are charging, which can be as much as 40%. Thanks to Covid-19, many people have had no choice but to borrow on credit cards to feed their kids or heat their house.

WHAT IS THE LABOUR PARTY DOING ABOUT THIS?

Credit card interest should be limited to 5% maximum at the moment.

Banks need to do their bit to help.
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"BBC has allowed these comments but takes out those that do not fit its right wind agenda . Lets see if they allow this one to go through . As they have taken out the other 3..."

LOve the right wind agenda idea.
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Fantastically funny. Thanks for that. Of course that well know right wing organisation the BBC.
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How will poor migrants and those without full permission to reside in UK receive their Vaccination Invitation letters? If, like Farage says, there's potentially 450 million of 'em living in a shed - then looks like we're going to need a bigger shed! Removed
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Good point - if you don't (officially) exist how can you be immunised.Tricky.
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Starmer's coming out with a lot of attractive promises, but he knows as well as we do that they're nothing but huff and puff. As he'll be in opposition for at least three more years, he can't deliver on even one of them, and if he ever did get to power, he would immediately be faced by reality and backtrack on most of them. He might as well promise the moon on a stick.
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Not very good English....
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Still at it mf. The chances of Irish unification are exactly zero. Don't you realise the decent people of the North of Ireland want nothing to do with your disgraceful and disgusting Sein Fein politics in the South.
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French fishermen collecting donations for a statue of Boris in recognition of them keeping their quotas if anyone wants to contribute......
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What's it like for labour who keep on losing for years and years?
It just keeps happening, so do you know why?
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since Blair, charisma free leaders, stronger tory leaders, anti semitic, too left
simple
no new ideas
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Keir Starmer has the qualities of a leader who cares about the poor in society.

I'll be voting Labour while we have Bojo the Clown in Downing Street.
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Because he has a Knighthood.?
Through hard work, Look it up before you judge.
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Of all the Labour candidates for the Leadership of the party, the one that Tory Central Office feared most was Keir Starmer. Hence the doctored video of him.

Why do I say that? Because he has the forensic skills brought about by his training as a barrister to dissect BoJo's waffling statements and blatant lies.

He has also shown genuine compassion and empathy for the least well off in society.
Shame he is such a part, then.

Oh, and letting Jimmy Saville off shows he is not blessed with the "forensic skills" you spout, and demonstrates little compassion for the kids and other victims he so badly let down right up to the point of Saville's demise.
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no ideas or proposals, hence capt hindsight nickname which is sticking
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A flood of nonsense drives people away.....
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Perhaps it is time to rename the "conservatives" - a more inapt name I cannot think of - to the Deflectors ?

Sounds more truthful.
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