Pfizer vaccine 'works' against key variant mutation, study suggests
08/01/2021 | news | health | 159
The vaccine is able to attack one of the mutations found in new forms of the virus, lab studies show.
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08/01/2021 15:54:58 5 19
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Handcok is a liar . this Government cannot be trusted !
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08/01/2021 16:10:48 17 3
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Boring
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08/01/2021 16:09:16 31 4
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Maybe if footballers didn't go out partying over Christmas the numbers would be better. Just shows the famous, wealthy and entitled feel the rules dont apply to them as usual. Fine them or imprison them like everyone else.
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08/01/2021 21:20:26 13 1
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Agree.No idea why so many folk are so in the thrall of football. It is way way inessential........
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09/01/2021 03:17:51 3 0
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Far more ordinary non wealthy folk ignored the rules, partied, failed to wear masks & failed to socially distance.
How about targeting THEM, as they're the real cause of this huge increase in infections & deaths.
Anyone who considers themselves above the rules & who fails to follow them has blood on their hands - collectively, the selfish & wilfully ignorant have killed thousands of people.
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09/01/2021 04:19:27 1 0
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oh please. can we stop blaming the footballers

"footballer holds party"
"news anchor breaks rules"
"politicians travels half the country"
"another politician travels half the country"

please stop focussing on the rule breakers, and focus on the general public.
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08/01/2021 16:10:10 0 9
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welcome to covid warming gates and gore
15:54
Can't see any mention of Hancock or Gov.
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08/01/2021 15:54:58 5 19
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Handcok is a liar . this Government cannot be trusted !
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08/01/2021 16:10:48 17 3
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Boring
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08/01/2021 16:18:15 3 16
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Trying to master Nature is a fool's errand. Nature, however, enjoys the game, knowing it always wins. We are a lost species but just don't yet know it.
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08/01/2021 18:42:21 13 0
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Small pox
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08/01/2021 20:17:11 2 0
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Despite your nihilistic poetry, we have wiped out a number of viruses and diseases using vaccines, treatments, etc.
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08/01/2021 16:21:56 8 15
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Worryingly familiar -

johnsons 'Vaccine Minister' Nadhim Zahawi has just set up a new medical company in time for the vaccinations.

New BBC Chairman Richard Sharp donated more than £400,000 to the conservative party.

Is a picture forming yet ? LOL
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08/01/2021 16:24:21 33 4
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Why so much negativity people? This is not politicians words but scientists maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt after all we all on this planet together hope is the best present we can get for 2021
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08/01/2021 21:31:07 3 8
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Since the scientists and doctors are not in a consensus. Many of them challenge the view that vaccinating anyone other than the most vulnerable makes sense
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08/01/2021 16:28:47 15 4
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"Study suggests"

Unless the antigen that the vaccine copied has significantly changed its amino acid sequence and/or shape, which it should be relatively easy to determine, then continuing efficacy is quite likely.

Of course, with a couple of billion years head start mother nature's immune response, in all those millions who have now recovered from covid-19, might just turn out to be better.
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08/01/2021 16:50:03 1 6
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Has this article been "Factchecked" ??
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08/01/2021 23:12:31 2 0
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Ask google.
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08/01/2021 17:01:17 23 1
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This is important news and confirms what has been thought to be the case since the new variants emerged. It would need substantial change to the spike protein before the antibodies formed after vaccination would fail to recognise Covid and, despite mutation, this remains substantially the same virus. I'm looking forward to the jag and, if I have to have a slightly different one next year, so be it
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09/01/2021 04:20:05 1 0
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thank you for the technical review.
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08/01/2021 17:01:39 16 7
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"The vaccine is able to attack one of the mutations found in new forms of the virus, lab studies show."

I thought the vaccine trained your bodies immune system to attack the virus and indeed that is what the article says:-

"The results showed the immune systems of vaccinated patients were able to take out the new mutation."

Come on BBC there is enough false news already.
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09/01/2021 03:02:11 5 1
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The Pfizer and Modena Vaccines are different. Instead of giving the inoculated a version of the virus with its legs pulled off, so that the immune system can learn how to fight the virus, these new Vaccines instead create in isolation the binding protein that COVID uses to infect living cells. The immune system then learns how to fight said protein, and is thus able to repel COVID variants

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08/01/2021 17:04:12 30 10
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Sadiq Khan says Londoners need to come together - ref the state of Covid there it's the most stupid statement ever. They need to keep apart!
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08/01/2021 18:45:31 17 20
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He means in unity not in gathering you fool.
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08/01/2021 18:46:03 1 11
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He means in unity not in gathering you fool!
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08/01/2021 20:36:52 3 3
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Hahaha. THAT is the most stupid statement ever lol
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08/01/2021 17:41:13 21 3
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Nice, now hurry up with the roll out. Get Jabbing I don`t care which one I get just hurry it up.
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09/01/2021 04:19:46 2 1
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lol. oh dear.
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09/01/2021 18:07:45 0 0
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We need to get ALL boxers involved, THEY are used to 'jabbing'!!!
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08/01/2021 18:31:59 4 19
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Pfizer vaccine looking a great bet 95% awesome. Will be the main vaccine for the masses.

I think the MPs, Gps and anyone else who thinks the Oxford vaccine is relevant with its 60% can take that one

In the long term, I feel using a lower quality vaccine may end up costing the country a lot more financially
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08/01/2021 18:42:04 15 2
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Probably not. The Pfizer vaccine needs very specialised storage and handling.
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08/01/2021 21:37:17 2 0
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Dear David, The Pfixer vaccine will take a back seat for the masses due to it's -75degree storage requirement. The Oxford vaccine (and similar others ) will take the lead in protecting the masses.
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08/01/2021 23:08:50 0 1
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The majority will get the Oxford vaccine because it is cheaper and we have a Tory government.
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09/01/2021 01:26:04 0 0
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buy your Pfizer shares then , does not matter about the masses whose countries can not afford to buy the more needed Pfizer in the volume needed, India come to mind as one and we can also distribute the cheaper one to give more people hope.
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08/01/2021 18:31:59 4 19
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Pfizer vaccine looking a great bet 95% awesome. Will be the main vaccine for the masses.

I think the MPs, Gps and anyone else who thinks the Oxford vaccine is relevant with its 60% can take that one

In the long term, I feel using a lower quality vaccine may end up costing the country a lot more financially
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08/01/2021 18:42:04 15 2
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Probably not. The Pfizer vaccine needs very specialised storage and handling.
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BFM
08/01/2021 20:38:23 0 2
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But the NHS can easily handle -70C (dry ice temperature). I just got a lesion removed at my local NHS clinic using a squirt of liquid nitrogen which they keep at -196C, and it just a little clinic.
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08/01/2021 16:18:15 3 16
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Trying to master Nature is a fool's errand. Nature, however, enjoys the game, knowing it always wins. We are a lost species but just don't yet know it.
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08/01/2021 18:42:21 13 0
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Small pox
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08/01/2021 19:31:19 0 3
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Good point, although Smallpox is still out there, albeit in a cage... it may win yet.
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08/01/2021 18:45:10 12 4
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It's great news.

My only worry is what happens if the virus finds a way around the vaccines? Surely then, we have to stop doing lockdowns and just get on with life. Because this could be with us for years!
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rne
08/01/2021 18:53:52 18 2
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Annual vaccinations like flu vaccination at least for the over 60's and for the forseeable future. It is not a big price to pay. Contrary to some comments on this page, I will be very glad to have any vaccine, including the Oxford vaccine. My understanding is that different protocols were used for the different trials, which makes comparing 'headline' percentage effectiveness figures plain silly.
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08/01/2021 21:34:58 2 0
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Dear Front Forks, No, the scientists will simply produce a modified vaccine (as they do for Flu).
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08/01/2021 23:07:27 1 0
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They will probably tweak the vaccine as they do with the flu vaccine, I expect in the long term covid 19 vaccine will be delivered with flu vaccine.
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08/01/2021 17:04:12 30 10
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Sadiq Khan says Londoners need to come together - ref the state of Covid there it's the most stupid statement ever. They need to keep apart!
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08/01/2021 18:45:31 17 20
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He means in unity not in gathering you fool.
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08/01/2021 19:36:47 7 0
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Whooosh! :D
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09/01/2021 01:35:02 2 0
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They stuck together after lockdown 2 ,level 2 tiers with their pubs and gatherings while rest of country where they follow the rules is now in better shape having been level 3 , London now in a mess and its media scare scare again and the rest have to suffer. Should have lockdown inside the M25 circle all year
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09/01/2021 04:20:35 0 0
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yeah! you fool! stop listening to what people say!
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08/01/2021 17:04:12 30 10
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Sadiq Khan says Londoners need to come together - ref the state of Covid there it's the most stupid statement ever. They need to keep apart!
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08/01/2021 18:46:03 1 11
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He means in unity not in gathering you fool!
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08/01/2021 18:45:10 12 4
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It's great news.

My only worry is what happens if the virus finds a way around the vaccines? Surely then, we have to stop doing lockdowns and just get on with life. Because this could be with us for years!
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rne
08/01/2021 18:53:52 18 2
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Annual vaccinations like flu vaccination at least for the over 60's and for the forseeable future. It is not a big price to pay. Contrary to some comments on this page, I will be very glad to have any vaccine, including the Oxford vaccine. My understanding is that different protocols were used for the different trials, which makes comparing 'headline' percentage effectiveness figures plain silly.
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09/01/2021 00:14:00 0 1
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Efficacy estimates I have seen are 3-6 months and this virus doesn't seem to be limited to winter months. Over 50's and anyone with health issues might need vaccination more often than annually. What if this is with us for years? What happens to young, otherwise healthy people who contract Covid along with another respiratory illness simultaneously?

There are still a lot of unknowns.
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09/01/2021 01:12:59 0 0
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Its a huge price to pay if we only have the USA Pfizer jab that works , the one most people will not get , lets hope the Oxford one works as that will save the world or a variant of the Oxford one
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08/01/2021 18:58:33 3 32
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No thanks I don't want a vaccine it is a scientological conspiracy
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08/01/2021 19:14:44 16 4
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Then I assume you won't mind being charged for hospitalisation should you catch the virus. Or those around you, and those around them don't mind you potentially being a carrier.

Get a grip... seriously, people need ti understand peoples lives are at risk, not only your own..
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08/01/2021 20:07:37 1 0
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Aw bless.
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08/01/2021 21:27:01 3 0
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What has L Ron Hubbard got to do with it?
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08/01/2021 22:31:06 2 0
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It seems that you are related to trump
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08/01/2021 23:05:29 2 0
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You need your head examined.
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09/01/2021 03:35:09 0 0
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So good of you to care for Covid patients without any personnel protection; I'm sure you'll be fine, at least if we only use your version of science that says anything you don't like is a conspiracy. Although if we use actual science you'd be near certain to catch Covid; you'd probably be fine, but with outside chances of long term disability and death

I prescribe citalopram &doing what your told
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08/01/2021 19:04:24 19 3
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Our scientists are fantastic.
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08/01/2021 18:58:33 3 32
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No thanks I don't want a vaccine it is a scientological conspiracy
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08/01/2021 19:14:44 16 4
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Then I assume you won't mind being charged for hospitalisation should you catch the virus. Or those around you, and those around them don't mind you potentially being a carrier.

Get a grip... seriously, people need ti understand peoples lives are at risk, not only your own..
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08/01/2021 19:22:28 1 4
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You are so wrong.
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08/01/2021 19:24:05 4 2
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Well if you end up really ill with a reaction to the vaccine. you should pay for your treatment.
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08/01/2021 19:26:49 16 16
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The headline is great news!

Looking forward to the Chinese Communist Party and its proxy gov. apologizing for causing untold suffering, emotional and financial stress, loss of health, deaths, and its lies, denials, and avoiding its responsibility, and for hurting the feelings of the People of the World.

Make the Chinese Communist Party pay.

Tell your MP.
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08/01/2021 23:27:55 0 9
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Wont happen - NO ONE will EVER be held responsible - same as in 10 yrs time when the findings report that these RUSHED THROUGH vaccines ACTUALLY caused more harm than they did good

...it`ll be same old same old - world leaders made their decisions on the BEST INFORMATION that they had AT THE TIME - `HOWEVER` as technology has now furthered SINCE - NO ONE IS TO BLAME
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09/01/2021 11:03:50 0 0
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I see, Mr Sucks. You are suggesting that I ask the Communist Party of China to pay for hurting my feelings. I see.
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08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
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Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
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08/01/2021 19:39:19 13 1
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Yeah, like at the time of the black death.
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08/01/2021 19:43:18 2 0
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OK. But please stay inside.
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08/01/2021 20:17:27 7 0
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Sure.. if we left things to "nature" your house would be overun fast. You would be banished to woodland that has not yet burned to "survive". Good luck because that IS NATURE. Just look at all the other animals. You're welcome.
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08/01/2021 20:25:44 7 0
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It is people who refuse to actually do common sense things that are causing tears. Training our own immune systems with vaccines isn't "meddling with nature". It is a standard tactic which has eliminated some viruses. Without them people would be dying left and right due to plagues we don't have to worry about anymore nowadays. "Leaving it to nature" will end up with more deaths.
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08/01/2021 21:21:56 4 0
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If you are so intent on leaving things to nature, by all means go back to living in a cave and hunting for food.
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08/01/2021 22:21:50 5 0
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So you'd prefer it if we hadn't use vaccination to eradicate Smallpox? It was so much better when millions of people died of that every year (as recently as the 1960s)
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08/01/2021 22:27:13 3 0
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How sad to read your response when every day thousands are infected and thousands died from Covid-19 . If you liked to be another statistic please don’t wasted your talent writing nonsense
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08/01/2021 23:03:48 3 1
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Stay away from my family. Smallpox was eliminated from the population by vaccinations. Have you ever seen someone in an iron lung?
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09/01/2021 03:14:30 5 0
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I have only one comment why is this totally stupid dangerous comment still able to be read? Why has it not been taken down. In my 50 years or so as a practicing doctor I saw things I hope I never see again or anyone else will have to suffer. VACCINES alongside antibiotics put an end to many suffering what was often an ugly painful death.Wackos like you who have no clue need to join the real world!
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08/01/2021 19:14:44 16 4
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Then I assume you won't mind being charged for hospitalisation should you catch the virus. Or those around you, and those around them don't mind you potentially being a carrier.

Get a grip... seriously, people need ti understand peoples lives are at risk, not only your own..
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08/01/2021 19:22:28 1 4
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You are so wrong.
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08/01/2021 21:23:59 3 0
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And how can you prove that statement?
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08/01/2021 19:14:44 16 4
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Then I assume you won't mind being charged for hospitalisation should you catch the virus. Or those around you, and those around them don't mind you potentially being a carrier.

Get a grip... seriously, people need ti understand peoples lives are at risk, not only your own..
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08/01/2021 19:24:05 4 2
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Well if you end up really ill with a reaction to the vaccine. you should pay for your treatment.
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09/01/2021 11:13:05 0 0
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Bloody hell, just stay away from normal people. Please. Just stay away.
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08/01/2021 18:45:31 17 20
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He means in unity not in gathering you fool.
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08/01/2021 19:36:47 7 0
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Whooosh! :D
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08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
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Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
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08/01/2021 19:39:19 13 1
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Yeah, like at the time of the black death.
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08/01/2021 18:42:21 13 0
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Small pox
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08/01/2021 19:31:19 0 3
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Good point, although Smallpox is still out there, albeit in a cage... it may win yet.
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08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
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Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
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08/01/2021 19:43:18 2 0
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OK. But please stay inside.
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08/01/2021 19:46:43 21 5
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It was so much safer when the internet was just a convenient way of distributing pr0n around the world. Now we have something much more dangerous. Distributing antivax bull****.
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08/01/2021 23:28:03 5 10
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Not all of it is BS. There is plausible info from credible and qualified people.
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08/01/2021 19:56:23 3 0
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welcome news
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08/01/2021 18:58:33 3 32
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No thanks I don't want a vaccine it is a scientological conspiracy
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08/01/2021 20:07:37 1 0
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Aw bless.
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08/01/2021 20:13:02 3 8
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If you look at the graphs,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

about 1reported case in 50 is dying. That means 68,000 cases today will be 3,400 cases a day by the end of the month.
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08/01/2021 20:16:10 5 2
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I bet your pardon.

68,000 cases today will be 3,400 deaths a day by the end of the month.
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08/01/2021 20:30:10 4 0
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Inumerate.

68000/50=1360
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08/01/2021 21:12:00 2 5
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My arithmetic makes this 1360 deaths per day...where did you go to school....Scotland ??
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08/01/2021 20:13:02 3 8
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If you look at the graphs,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

about 1reported case in 50 is dying. That means 68,000 cases today will be 3,400 cases a day by the end of the month.
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08/01/2021 20:16:10 5 2
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I bet your pardon.

68,000 cases today will be 3,400 deaths a day by the end of the month.
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08/01/2021 16:18:15 3 16
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Trying to master Nature is a fool's errand. Nature, however, enjoys the game, knowing it always wins. We are a lost species but just don't yet know it.
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08/01/2021 20:17:11 2 0
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Despite your nihilistic poetry, we have wiped out a number of viruses and diseases using vaccines, treatments, etc.
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08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
bbc
Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
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08/01/2021 20:17:27 7 0
bbc
Sure.. if we left things to "nature" your house would be overun fast. You would be banished to woodland that has not yet burned to "survive". Good luck because that IS NATURE. Just look at all the other animals. You're welcome.
25
08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
bbc
Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
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08/01/2021 20:25:44 7 0
bbc
It is people who refuse to actually do common sense things that are causing tears. Training our own immune systems with vaccines isn't "meddling with nature". It is a standard tactic which has eliminated some viruses. Without them people would be dying left and right due to plagues we don't have to worry about anymore nowadays. "Leaving it to nature" will end up with more deaths.
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08/01/2021 20:13:02 3 8
bbc
If you look at the graphs,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

about 1reported case in 50 is dying. That means 68,000 cases today will be 3,400 cases a day by the end of the month.
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08/01/2021 20:30:10 4 0
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Inumerate.

68000/50=1360
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08/01/2021 20:41:31 2 0
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Yes, my mistake.
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08/01/2021 20:30:36 21 8
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If you don't take the vaccine when it becomes available to you then you are willingly and knowingly putting everyone around you then you are telling them that you don't care if they die.
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08/01/2021 21:48:37 4 7
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If they're vaccinated, they should be protected from people who have that disease.... Or is the past 100 years a lie
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08/01/2021 23:57:05 1 4
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So if I take the vaccine you’re saying people around me will stop dying? Who knew the Covid vaccine was actually the cure for death!! Thankyou stranger, you opened my eyes and defo changed my opinion... #sarcasm
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BFM
08/01/2021 20:33:18 8 4
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Two significant mutations in the last few months. There will be mutations of the mutations and sooner or later the vaccine will not work. Although they may well be able to tweak the vaccine in short order they cannot revaccinate 6 billion people in short order. We could have global lockdowns and travel barriers for years to come with a devastating effect on economies.
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08/01/2021 21:31:43 5 10
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Dear BFM, are you qualified to make these sweeping assumptions? No? Thought not.
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08/01/2021 22:56:21 1 3
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Being so cheerful keeps you going.
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08/01/2021 23:47:37 1 1
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In order to eliminate reserviors of the virus, they would have to vaccinate most of those 6 billon in very short order - it'll never happen.

Sorry to be pessimistic, I think this is the new reality for a long time to come.
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09/01/2021 01:04:51 6 1
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BFM
As a now retired doctor at 82 years of age I can remember times before many of today's vaccines existed. When conditions such as smallpox,diphtheria,polio even tetanus and many other diseases were endemic and incurable causing suffering and death world wide but no longer exist thanks to vaccines. Sorry my son but you have not a clue as to reality of this as proven by your remarks.
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08/01/2021 17:04:12 30 10
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Sadiq Khan says Londoners need to come together - ref the state of Covid there it's the most stupid statement ever. They need to keep apart!
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08/01/2021 20:36:52 3 3
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Hahaha. THAT is the most stupid statement ever lol
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09/01/2021 04:21:15 0 3
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the word is "stupidest"

"stupidest statement ever"

at least if you are going to dismiss, spell it proper.
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09/01/2021 19:42:05 0 0
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Actually Boris and others have said exactly that - "Need to come together"
It always amuses me.
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08/01/2021 18:42:04 15 2
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Probably not. The Pfizer vaccine needs very specialised storage and handling.
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BFM
08/01/2021 20:38:23 0 2
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But the NHS can easily handle -70C (dry ice temperature). I just got a lesion removed at my local NHS clinic using a squirt of liquid nitrogen which they keep at -196C, and it just a little clinic.
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08/01/2021 21:06:06 3 1
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Liquid nitrogen is stored at room temperature - it remains liquid because it is under pressure in its sealed bottles.
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08/01/2021 20:30:10 4 0
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Inumerate.

68000/50=1360
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08/01/2021 20:41:31 2 0
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Yes, my mistake.
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08/01/2021 20:57:31 1 0
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Thank you.
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08/01/2021 20:41:31 2 0
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Yes, my mistake.
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08/01/2021 20:57:31 1 0
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Thank you.
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08/01/2021 21:01:32 0 1
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Mind you, the 1360 number is upon us today!

This will not turn out well.
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08/01/2021 20:57:31 1 0
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Thank you.
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08/01/2021 21:01:32 0 1
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Mind you, the 1360 number is upon us today!

This will not turn out well.
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09/01/2021 08:23:03 0 0
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1360 is a data reporting error. If you look at the death by date it is less than 700.

It may increase as PHE catches up with the data for the last two or three days, but the death rate trend is very stable.
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09/01/2021 08:25:32 0 0
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Your calculation is also based on historical data. The hospitals are now able to treat the disease better. The 1 in 50 figure you quote has significantly improved.
However I do agree we need to vaccinate.
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BFM
08/01/2021 20:38:23 0 2
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But the NHS can easily handle -70C (dry ice temperature). I just got a lesion removed at my local NHS clinic using a squirt of liquid nitrogen which they keep at -196C, and it just a little clinic.
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08/01/2021 21:06:06 3 1
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Liquid nitrogen is stored at room temperature - it remains liquid because it is under pressure in its sealed bottles.
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Bob
08/01/2021 22:07:47 2 0
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Liquid nitrogen is liquid because it has been cooled down, it is kept in insulated containers. Nitrogen in a sealed bottle will be gas as soon as you release the pressure.
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09/01/2021 08:30:52 0 0
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I hope not as if it was sealed and got a bit warmer it would be a bomb.
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08/01/2021 21:10:54 9 7
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Isolation works but it's not a nice way to live your life , especially for the young they need to enjoy life while they still have their youth. It may be that the virus will continue to mutate and so vaccinations will be the norm each year. It's like a Pandora's box but I don't know who opened it , possibly the CPP
57
08/01/2021 21:30:30 14 6
bbc
"especially for the young they need to enjoy life while they still have their youth." Very ageist. What about those who have worked hard all their lives and want to enjoy their remaining years? Come on people, let's try and have some respect for each other.
69
08/01/2021 22:54:35 1 0
bbc
You can continue to enjoy your life to the end if you live long enough and you are lucky enough to have good health.
35
08/01/2021 20:13:02 3 8
bbc
If you look at the graphs,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

about 1reported case in 50 is dying. That means 68,000 cases today will be 3,400 cases a day by the end of the month.
50
08/01/2021 21:12:00 2 5
bbc
My arithmetic makes this 1360 deaths per day...where did you go to school....Scotland ??
51
08/01/2021 21:14:43 9 1
bbc
This is encouraging news, but the key is manufacturing and distribution. Until that piece of the equation is in full swing the preventive measures are still vital. It does no good to be “anti-va[xx]ccination” or to deny the darned plague exists. Masks, PVPI gargles/nasal sprays, vitamin D/C/Zn supplementation can all help stop the spread. And for goodness’ sakes — stay home if possible.
2
08/01/2021 16:09:16 31 4
bbc
Maybe if footballers didn't go out partying over Christmas the numbers would be better. Just shows the famous, wealthy and entitled feel the rules dont apply to them as usual. Fine them or imprison them like everyone else.
52
08/01/2021 21:20:26 13 1
bbc
Agree.No idea why so many folk are so in the thrall of football. It is way way inessential........
25
08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
bbc
Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
53
08/01/2021 21:21:56 4 0
bbc
If you are so intent on leaving things to nature, by all means go back to living in a cave and hunting for food.
26
08/01/2021 19:22:28 1 4
bbc
You are so wrong.
54
08/01/2021 21:23:59 3 0
bbc
And how can you prove that statement?
21
08/01/2021 18:58:33 3 32
bbc
No thanks I don't want a vaccine it is a scientological conspiracy
55
08/01/2021 21:27:01 3 0
bbc
What has L Ron Hubbard got to do with it?
7
08/01/2021 16:24:21 33 4
bbc
Why so much negativity people? This is not politicians words but scientists maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt after all we all on this planet together hope is the best present we can get for 2021
56
08/01/2021 21:31:07 3 8
bbc
Since the scientists and doctors are not in a consensus. Many of them challenge the view that vaccinating anyone other than the most vulnerable makes sense
104
09/01/2021 01:19:07 3 0
bbc
No they don't Just shut up.
115
09/01/2021 03:13:21 3 0
bbc
No they don't. That's absolute nonsense, as it would ensure the virus continued to infect multiple people, thus increasing the odds of a truly vaccine resistant variant.
139
09/01/2021 10:02:10 1 0
bbc
Yes, tell that to healthy people under the age of 30 who are suffering from long term covid. This is not the flu and science backs the fact that everyone should be vaccinated.
49
08/01/2021 21:10:54 9 7
bbc
Isolation works but it's not a nice way to live your life , especially for the young they need to enjoy life while they still have their youth. It may be that the virus will continue to mutate and so vaccinations will be the norm each year. It's like a Pandora's box but I don't know who opened it , possibly the CPP
57
08/01/2021 21:30:30 14 6
bbc
"especially for the young they need to enjoy life while they still have their youth." Very ageist. What about those who have worked hard all their lives and want to enjoy their remaining years? Come on people, let's try and have some respect for each other.
74
08/01/2021 23:02:15 5 3
bbc
Young are just whiners with no vision.
42
BFM
08/01/2021 20:33:18 8 4
bbc
Two significant mutations in the last few months. There will be mutations of the mutations and sooner or later the vaccine will not work. Although they may well be able to tweak the vaccine in short order they cannot revaccinate 6 billion people in short order. We could have global lockdowns and travel barriers for years to come with a devastating effect on economies.
58
08/01/2021 21:31:43 5 10
bbc
Dear BFM, are you qualified to make these sweeping assumptions? No? Thought not.
94
08/01/2021 23:54:14 2 2
bbc
Precisely right! Their assumption the vaccine works is naive at best... well spotted!
21
08/01/2021 18:58:33 3 32
bbc
No thanks I don't want a vaccine it is a scientological conspiracy
Removed
17
08/01/2021 18:45:10 12 4
bbc
It's great news.

My only worry is what happens if the virus finds a way around the vaccines? Surely then, we have to stop doing lockdowns and just get on with life. Because this could be with us for years!
60
08/01/2021 21:34:58 2 0
bbc
Dear Front Forks, No, the scientists will simply produce a modified vaccine (as they do for Flu).
14
08/01/2021 18:31:59 4 19
bbc
Pfizer vaccine looking a great bet 95% awesome. Will be the main vaccine for the masses.

I think the MPs, Gps and anyone else who thinks the Oxford vaccine is relevant with its 60% can take that one

In the long term, I feel using a lower quality vaccine may end up costing the country a lot more financially
61
08/01/2021 21:37:17 2 0
bbc
Dear David, The Pfixer vaccine will take a back seat for the masses due to it's -75degree storage requirement. The Oxford vaccine (and similar others ) will take the lead in protecting the masses.
41
08/01/2021 20:30:36 21 8
bbc
If you don't take the vaccine when it becomes available to you then you are willingly and knowingly putting everyone around you then you are telling them that you don't care if they die.
62
08/01/2021 21:48:37 4 7
bbc
If they're vaccinated, they should be protected from people who have that disease.... Or is the past 100 years a lie
71
08/01/2021 22:59:10 5 3
bbc
None of the vaccines are 100% effective, they rely on there being so few people who are not immune to make it very difficult for the virus to spread. Look at what happens when people refuse vaccines.
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Ads
09/01/2021 03:09:47 4 0
bbc
The Vaccines are not 100%, they don't need to be if enough people are vaccinated, we just need enough people to be vaccinated to bring R below 1 in the UK without restrictions. Assume R is 3.6 for new COVID and the vaccine is 90% effective; then 75% vaccination will bring R down to 1 without restriction; slightly more and COVID will slowly dissipate.

Vaccinating those at risk is not enough
63
08/01/2021 22:03:12 1 9
bbc
So What does the data say about immunity, for a single jab and both jabs!

Produce the immunity data- BBC

If its positive then Global Immunisation will NOT be a problem!

Else FAIL
68
08/01/2021 22:53:00 3 4
bbc
It is not the job of the BBC to do scientific research, that is for the scientists, it is the BBC's job to inform the people whether bozo's idea will work.
73
08/01/2021 23:02:15 3 2
bbc
Ask the nurse who got the 1st jab in December and then got C19 - maybe not enough time to become effective?
48
08/01/2021 21:06:06 3 1
bbc
Liquid nitrogen is stored at room temperature - it remains liquid because it is under pressure in its sealed bottles.
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Bob
08/01/2021 22:07:47 2 0
bbc
Liquid nitrogen is liquid because it has been cooled down, it is kept in insulated containers. Nitrogen in a sealed bottle will be gas as soon as you release the pressure.
25
08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
bbc
Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
65
08/01/2021 22:21:50 5 0
bbc
So you'd prefer it if we hadn't use vaccination to eradicate Smallpox? It was so much better when millions of people died of that every year (as recently as the 1960s)
25
08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
bbc
Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
66
08/01/2021 22:27:13 3 0
bbc
How sad to read your response when every day thousands are infected and thousands died from Covid-19 . If you liked to be another statistic please don’t wasted your talent writing nonsense
21
08/01/2021 18:58:33 3 32
bbc
No thanks I don't want a vaccine it is a scientological conspiracy
67
08/01/2021 22:31:06 2 0
bbc
It seems that you are related to trump
63
08/01/2021 22:03:12 1 9
bbc
So What does the data say about immunity, for a single jab and both jabs!

Produce the immunity data- BBC

If its positive then Global Immunisation will NOT be a problem!

Else FAIL
68
08/01/2021 22:53:00 3 4
bbc
It is not the job of the BBC to do scientific research, that is for the scientists, it is the BBC's job to inform the people whether bozo's idea will work.
137
09/01/2021 09:31:24 0 2
bbc
Your full of it!

The BBC should have the obligation of presenting the Truth, Not select misinformation.

The question of length of immunity has been a hanging question since the announcement of all vaccines, by WHO, CDC, PH, the NHS of all Countries!

And has been printed in articles with statements from UK scientists and PHE on the BBC asking the same question.
145
09/01/2021 11:08:00 1 1
bbc
For heaven's sake. It's not "bozo's idea".
49
08/01/2021 21:10:54 9 7
bbc
Isolation works but it's not a nice way to live your life , especially for the young they need to enjoy life while they still have their youth. It may be that the virus will continue to mutate and so vaccinations will be the norm each year. It's like a Pandora's box but I don't know who opened it , possibly the CPP
69
08/01/2021 22:54:35 1 0
bbc
You can continue to enjoy your life to the end if you live long enough and you are lucky enough to have good health.
42
BFM
08/01/2021 20:33:18 8 4
bbc
Two significant mutations in the last few months. There will be mutations of the mutations and sooner or later the vaccine will not work. Although they may well be able to tweak the vaccine in short order they cannot revaccinate 6 billion people in short order. We could have global lockdowns and travel barriers for years to come with a devastating effect on economies.
70
08/01/2021 22:56:21 1 3
bbc
Being so cheerful keeps you going.
62
08/01/2021 21:48:37 4 7
bbc
If they're vaccinated, they should be protected from people who have that disease.... Or is the past 100 years a lie
71
08/01/2021 22:59:10 5 3
bbc
None of the vaccines are 100% effective, they rely on there being so few people who are not immune to make it very difficult for the virus to spread. Look at what happens when people refuse vaccines.
72
bbc
That would be Biden and commie cohorts. Removed
84
08/01/2021 23:14:12 6 5
bbc
You don't know what communism is.
63
08/01/2021 22:03:12 1 9
bbc
So What does the data say about immunity, for a single jab and both jabs!

Produce the immunity data- BBC

If its positive then Global Immunisation will NOT be a problem!

Else FAIL
73
08/01/2021 23:02:15 3 2
bbc
Ask the nurse who got the 1st jab in December and then got C19 - maybe not enough time to become effective?
57
08/01/2021 21:30:30 14 6
bbc
"especially for the young they need to enjoy life while they still have their youth." Very ageist. What about those who have worked hard all their lives and want to enjoy their remaining years? Come on people, let's try and have some respect for each other.
74
08/01/2021 23:02:15 5 3
bbc
Young are just whiners with no vision.
99
09/01/2021 00:53:34 2 1
bbc
Kurt
I would add through absolutely no fault of their own they are also not old enough to have experienced many of the stresses and strains or the realities of life. In the UK the present younger generation (up to 25's) have never had to struggle with life in general and basically are not prepared for situations such as the one we now face which takes the will of everyone to overcome.
25
08/01/2021 19:21:51 5 31
bbc
Listen . STOP ALL THIS VACCINE NONSENSE and let's just leave things to nature. We just cannot meddle with nature in this way. It will all end in tears.
75
08/01/2021 23:03:48 3 1
bbc
Stay away from my family. Smallpox was eliminated from the population by vaccinations. Have you ever seen someone in an iron lung?
85
08/01/2021 23:15:57 3 0
bbc
Smallpox was a terrible disease but it never put anyone in an iron lung. That was polio! (Also largely eradicated by vaccination.) Incidentally, I have seen someone in an iron lung - when I was a student nurse in the 1960s. She'd had polio 15 years earlier, as a child. She was subsequently transferred to a modern ventilator (much less safe) and died of pneumonia a couple of years later.
76
08/01/2021 23:04:06 1 1
bbc
good news
21
08/01/2021 18:58:33 3 32
bbc
No thanks I don't want a vaccine it is a scientological conspiracy
77
08/01/2021 23:05:29 2 0
bbc
You need your head examined.
78
08/01/2021 23:06:46 4 8
bbc
Major mutation within the White House approaching.. and folk thought donald was wayward.
86
08/01/2021 23:17:49 1 4
bbc
Correct
17
08/01/2021 18:45:10 12 4
bbc
It's great news.

My only worry is what happens if the virus finds a way around the vaccines? Surely then, we have to stop doing lockdowns and just get on with life. Because this could be with us for years!
79
08/01/2021 23:07:27 1 0
bbc
They will probably tweak the vaccine as they do with the flu vaccine, I expect in the long term covid 19 vaccine will be delivered with flu vaccine.
14
08/01/2021 18:31:59 4 19
bbc
Pfizer vaccine looking a great bet 95% awesome. Will be the main vaccine for the masses.

I think the MPs, Gps and anyone else who thinks the Oxford vaccine is relevant with its 60% can take that one

In the long term, I feel using a lower quality vaccine may end up costing the country a lot more financially
80
08/01/2021 23:08:50 0 1
bbc
The majority will get the Oxford vaccine because it is cheaper and we have a Tory government.
81
08/01/2021 23:11:40 1 7
bbc
this is great news - the JAB means the globe WILL be able to get `back to same old normal again` especially with the new biden administration TAKING control of congress, senate & white house.

2nd amendment will be abolished - jobs & trade will go back to china - a NEW WAR will kick off - trump WILL be impeached to prevent him from becoming an independant & social media WILL silence free speech
90
08/01/2021 23:40:37 2 1
bbc
"the JAB means the globe WILL be able to get `back to same old normal again`"

Not necessarily. As long as there is still a reservoir and the innoculation does not provide long term immunity this will continue to be the new normal.
98
09/01/2021 00:44:45 2 0
bbc
What has this nonsense about American politics got to do with this article??? Surely your statement breaks "house rules" as apart from the first, also nonsensical statement, it is way off subject!
82
08/01/2021 23:12:14 3 2
bbc
I hope researchers are keeping track of who gets the vaccine and use the opportunity to collect data about how long anitbodies last, whether the vaccinated people are carrier of the virus and can spread it and verify the best doses. as the flu the virus will mutate so surely it will take years to calibrate it.
9
08/01/2021 16:50:03 1 6
bbc
Has this article been "Factchecked" ??
83
08/01/2021 23:12:31 2 0
bbc
Ask google.
That would be Biden and commie cohorts. Removed
84
08/01/2021 23:14:12 6 5
bbc
You don't know what communism is.
75
08/01/2021 23:03:48 3 1
bbc
Stay away from my family. Smallpox was eliminated from the population by vaccinations. Have you ever seen someone in an iron lung?
85
08/01/2021 23:15:57 3 0
bbc
Smallpox was a terrible disease but it never put anyone in an iron lung. That was polio! (Also largely eradicated by vaccination.) Incidentally, I have seen someone in an iron lung - when I was a student nurse in the 1960s. She'd had polio 15 years earlier, as a child. She was subsequently transferred to a modern ventilator (much less safe) and died of pneumonia a couple of years later.
78
08/01/2021 23:06:46 4 8
bbc
Major mutation within the White House approaching.. and folk thought donald was wayward.
86
08/01/2021 23:17:49 1 4
bbc
Correct
87
08/01/2021 23:24:03 1 7
bbc
lab studies.

lab studies are great.

lab studies. run, by "top. people."
97
09/01/2021 00:39:30 5 1
bbc
Not sure exactly what you mean by your comment? Is this a criticism or a praise can be taken both ways. However by the use of enhancing commas I assume you mean this in a negative criticising way.
24
08/01/2021 19:26:49 16 16
bbc
The headline is great news!

Looking forward to the Chinese Communist Party and its proxy gov. apologizing for causing untold suffering, emotional and financial stress, loss of health, deaths, and its lies, denials, and avoiding its responsibility, and for hurting the feelings of the People of the World.

Make the Chinese Communist Party pay.

Tell your MP.
88
08/01/2021 23:27:55 0 9
bbc
Wont happen - NO ONE will EVER be held responsible - same as in 10 yrs time when the findings report that these RUSHED THROUGH vaccines ACTUALLY caused more harm than they did good

...it`ll be same old same old - world leaders made their decisions on the BEST INFORMATION that they had AT THE TIME - `HOWEVER` as technology has now furthered SINCE - NO ONE IS TO BLAME
91
08/01/2021 23:40:58 1 1
bbc
It needs to happen!
Or are naysayers just going to stand by and say, Oh well....never mind.
Right up until they release the virus that destroys Humanity.....so as you're drawing your final breath, will you pluck up the courage to say something then?
32
08/01/2021 19:46:43 21 5
bbc
It was so much safer when the internet was just a convenient way of distributing pr0n around the world. Now we have something much more dangerous. Distributing antivax bull****.
89
08/01/2021 23:28:03 5 10
bbc
Not all of it is BS. There is plausible info from credible and qualified people.
105
09/01/2021 01:20:12 3 1
bbc
No, there isn't.
113
09/01/2021 03:05:19 0 0
bbc
New abnormal
Wonder why we put mad dogs down? Think about it, it is because they are a danger to people, as you apparently appear to be with your utterly ridiculous anti-vax nonsense you and others spout.
118
09/01/2021 03:20:15 2 0
bbc
Go on then: cite some of it, or post a link...
81
08/01/2021 23:11:40 1 7
bbc
this is great news - the JAB means the globe WILL be able to get `back to same old normal again` especially with the new biden administration TAKING control of congress, senate & white house.

2nd amendment will be abolished - jobs & trade will go back to china - a NEW WAR will kick off - trump WILL be impeached to prevent him from becoming an independant & social media WILL silence free speech
90
08/01/2021 23:40:37 2 1
bbc
"the JAB means the globe WILL be able to get `back to same old normal again`"

Not necessarily. As long as there is still a reservoir and the innoculation does not provide long term immunity this will continue to be the new normal.
88
08/01/2021 23:27:55 0 9
bbc
Wont happen - NO ONE will EVER be held responsible - same as in 10 yrs time when the findings report that these RUSHED THROUGH vaccines ACTUALLY caused more harm than they did good

...it`ll be same old same old - world leaders made their decisions on the BEST INFORMATION that they had AT THE TIME - `HOWEVER` as technology has now furthered SINCE - NO ONE IS TO BLAME
91
08/01/2021 23:40:58 1 1
bbc
It needs to happen!
Or are naysayers just going to stand by and say, Oh well....never mind.
Right up until they release the virus that destroys Humanity.....so as you're drawing your final breath, will you pluck up the courage to say something then?
42
BFM
08/01/2021 20:33:18 8 4
bbc
Two significant mutations in the last few months. There will be mutations of the mutations and sooner or later the vaccine will not work. Although they may well be able to tweak the vaccine in short order they cannot revaccinate 6 billion people in short order. We could have global lockdowns and travel barriers for years to come with a devastating effect on economies.
92
08/01/2021 23:47:37 1 1
bbc
In order to eliminate reserviors of the virus, they would have to vaccinate most of those 6 billon in very short order - it'll never happen.

Sorry to be pessimistic, I think this is the new reality for a long time to come.
93
08/01/2021 23:49:16 1 2
bbc
That’s convenient
58
08/01/2021 21:31:43 5 10
bbc
Dear BFM, are you qualified to make these sweeping assumptions? No? Thought not.
94
08/01/2021 23:54:14 2 2
bbc
Precisely right! Their assumption the vaccine works is naive at best... well spotted!
103
09/01/2021 01:14:51 5 0
bbc
iggod driver
"Vaccines don't works" What an utterly stupid ignorant remark. Take a look at Smallpox,Diphtheria,Typhoid,Polio even Tetanus and many other fatal endemic diseases such as Ebola which no longer exist or cause suffering and death to thousands world wide.One answer VACCINES! However how would I know as a retired doctor of 82 who actually experienced what these vaccines have now stopped.
41
08/01/2021 20:30:36 21 8
bbc
If you don't take the vaccine when it becomes available to you then you are willingly and knowingly putting everyone around you then you are telling them that you don't care if they die.
95
08/01/2021 23:57:05 1 4
bbc
So if I take the vaccine you’re saying people around me will stop dying? Who knew the Covid vaccine was actually the cure for death!! Thankyou stranger, you opened my eyes and defo changed my opinion... #sarcasm
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09/01/2021 01:24:30 3 0
bbc
igooddriver
Honestly think you have a serious problem with reality. To be frank if you had been my patient I would seriously be recommending you seek professional mental health help and quickly!! With your delusional opinions your are actually a danger to society in general because there are some who will misguidedly believe the utter nonsense you spout!!
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rne
08/01/2021 18:53:52 18 2
bbc
Annual vaccinations like flu vaccination at least for the over 60's and for the forseeable future. It is not a big price to pay. Contrary to some comments on this page, I will be very glad to have any vaccine, including the Oxford vaccine. My understanding is that different protocols were used for the different trials, which makes comparing 'headline' percentage effectiveness figures plain silly.
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09/01/2021 00:14:00 0 1
bbc
Efficacy estimates I have seen are 3-6 months and this virus doesn't seem to be limited to winter months. Over 50's and anyone with health issues might need vaccination more often than annually. What if this is with us for years? What happens to young, otherwise healthy people who contract Covid along with another respiratory illness simultaneously?

There are still a lot of unknowns.
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LH
09/01/2021 18:10:47 0 0
bbc
"There are still a lot of unknowns."
Just HOW do you KNOW that??!!
87
08/01/2021 23:24:03 1 7
bbc
lab studies.

lab studies are great.

lab studies. run, by "top. people."
97
09/01/2021 00:39:30 5 1
bbc
Not sure exactly what you mean by your comment? Is this a criticism or a praise can be taken both ways. However by the use of enhancing commas I assume you mean this in a negative criticising way.
127
09/01/2021 04:48:59 0 1
bbc
I've just read a study suggested something from a lab study. I think that's great.
81
08/01/2021 23:11:40 1 7
bbc
this is great news - the JAB means the globe WILL be able to get `back to same old normal again` especially with the new biden administration TAKING control of congress, senate & white house.

2nd amendment will be abolished - jobs & trade will go back to china - a NEW WAR will kick off - trump WILL be impeached to prevent him from becoming an independant & social media WILL silence free speech
98
09/01/2021 00:44:45 2 0
bbc
What has this nonsense about American politics got to do with this article??? Surely your statement breaks "house rules" as apart from the first, also nonsensical statement, it is way off subject!
74
08/01/2021 23:02:15 5 3
bbc
Young are just whiners with no vision.
99
09/01/2021 00:53:34 2 1
bbc
Kurt
I would add through absolutely no fault of their own they are also not old enough to have experienced many of the stresses and strains or the realities of life. In the UK the present younger generation (up to 25's) have never had to struggle with life in general and basically are not prepared for situations such as the one we now face which takes the will of everyone to overcome.
42
BFM
08/01/2021 20:33:18 8 4
bbc
Two significant mutations in the last few months. There will be mutations of the mutations and sooner or later the vaccine will not work. Although they may well be able to tweak the vaccine in short order they cannot revaccinate 6 billion people in short order. We could have global lockdowns and travel barriers for years to come with a devastating effect on economies.
100
09/01/2021 01:04:51 6 1
bbc
BFM
As a now retired doctor at 82 years of age I can remember times before many of today's vaccines existed. When conditions such as smallpox,diphtheria,polio even tetanus and many other diseases were endemic and incurable causing suffering and death world wide but no longer exist thanks to vaccines. Sorry my son but you have not a clue as to reality of this as proven by your remarks.