Brexit: M&S temporarily cuts hundreds of products in NI
08/01/2021 | news | business | 11,810
Criticism of new Brexit trade rules is growing as firms warn of more bureaucracy, higher costs and delays.
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08/01/2021 10:25:48 28 43
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We start from a position of complete equivalence.

It surely cannot be that difficult.

Unless people want to make it difficult.
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08/01/2021 10:31:01 10 3
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For many of these businesses the UK is making it trade difficult.
For example, for now a product with EU certification will pass UK certification. But the UK wants the ability to diverge in future so is insisting that businesses have the UK certification... and pay for it.
For businesses this means paying twice for certification or abandoning a market.
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08/01/2021 10:32:23 5 3
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In that case you've completely misunderstood the trade deal that Johnson signed.
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08/01/2021 10:33:49 9 1
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I am the owner of a small business shipping to EU customers. You are right, it is not difficult. But is is expensive!
The tariff is 0%, but there is now an extra fee for customs clearance (£3.5-4.5). Plus there is the VAT situation. Either the customer needs to pay VAT + VAT clearance fee upon receipt or we can clear it for them through the courier at an extra charge of between £5.5-36.6.
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08/01/2021 10:37:16 3 1
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A package that would previously cost us £9.07 to ship from the UK to a customer in Germany via DPD is now costing us £17.57 if we want to clear the VAT for the customer.... I think UK businesses are going to lose a lot of EU orders on the back of this. One can only hope that the UK customers will start shopping more...
jmw
08/01/2021 16:31:46 2 0
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I hope you do take the time to read replies to your post from U.K. businesses with real, not speculative, examples of how the current situation has increased the price of goods they export into the EU. What’s your advice for them given you are implying the problem is just people wanting to make it difficult?
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08/01/2021 10:26:15 2 4
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Tidy
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08/01/2021 10:26:16 552 82
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Delays - who would have thought ...... ?
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08/01/2021 10:47:44 154 257
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Fortunately the sky have not fallen...
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08/01/2021 10:40:16 6 26
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What delays? Look at the photo at the top of the page.
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08/01/2021 10:53:27 32 6
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Customs duty and VAT. Did Johnson forget to include them in his 2,200 page trade deal.
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08/01/2021 10:54:28 7 16
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Why do the BBC use a photo of queues taken in September and not January?
08/01/2021 13:18:10 4 2
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So far my company have delivered in over 3000 orders to the EU. All have had the correct paperwork, all arrangements for customs declarations, origin, long term supplier declarations etc in place in 2020. How did we manage this feat? We prepared well, trained people & worked with our contractors to get it right. These changes would happen deal or no deal, no exuses for failing to be ready.
08/01/2021 15:49:47 3 4
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Moaning Remainers....who would have thought?
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08/01/2021 10:26:20 1271 437
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We should have a slow hand clap every Thursday to thank Brexiteers for imposing economic sanctions on ourselves.
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08/01/2021 10:33:04 486 929
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Go ahead - then we can see and hear the moaners for real!
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08/01/2021 10:47:33 16 15
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Good idea. Might I suggest clapping with one hand?
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08/01/2021 10:50:27 38 59
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maybe slow handclap remainers who FAILED to convince people of their case...
Not sure whether you think your posts are funny, but they are so predictably boring. Do you have many friends to play with? Removed
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08/01/2021 11:01:17 19 45
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Another Brexit HYS, another strop from a remainer. I think we should have a slow hand clap for every remainer, especially the MP's not listening to their constituents, that delayed and dithered in following through on the result of a democratic vote.

Perhaps a better deal would have been done if they got over losing?

Remember it was YOUR fault we needed a new PM & YOUR fault we now have Boris.
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08/01/2021 11:02:39 13 39
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We should have a slow hand clap for everyone who didn’t get behind the Brexit initiative once it was decided in the referendum thus making the negotiating process more difficult.
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08/01/2021 11:06:35 21 4
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Boo for Boris
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08/01/2021 11:10:23 19 3
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Bojo left the Single Market after finding out it wasn't a dating site.
Remoaners like Trump supporters with their whining, flags and marches.

Nothing as given me so much pleasure as hearing these anti democratic self serving middle class globalist moaners cry, long may it continue.
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08/01/2021 11:32:08 5 0
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Doubt they would be able to organise it and if they finally agreed on a time they would never agree on the pace of the clap. Then they would blame everyone else when the clap didn't happen
col
08/01/2021 11:41:38 5 1
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Good idea, I want to know exactly who these idiots are, can't take steps until you have identified them and most are gobby on forums but silent when confronted face to face.
08/01/2021 11:51:44 1 9
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Why is it all about money with remainers?
08/01/2021 11:54:39 0 2
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I'd happily accept that. Use your freedom of expression.
08/01/2021 12:31:57 0 2
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or do it for something worthwhile like the NHS and take politics out of supporting them.
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08/01/2021 10:26:37 508 136
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Brexit....the gift that keeps on giving. Still, at least we have blue passports now.
They’re more of a blacky colour... Removed
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08/01/2021 10:41:53 38 4
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Designed by the Franco/Dutch company Gemalto and made in Poland.
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08/01/2021 10:57:43 31 1
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And the two mottos on the front (Dieu et mon droit & Honi soit qui mal y pense) are in French no less. Any views on that?
08/01/2021 11:31:00 5 20
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We have blue passports and Covid vaccines too. Both of which are a rarity in the EU.
08/01/2021 11:32:19 3 13
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so your glass is half empty? better seek some therapy then
08/01/2021 11:34:27 8 0
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"at least we have blue passports now."

... Once we've completed the paperwork to import them from the EU
08/01/2021 12:01:54 1 0
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Hmmm, black, actually!
08/01/2021 12:49:16 0 0
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I want my black one back.
Never had a blue one.
08/01/2021 14:16:02 0 0
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we do have vaccinations, as does Europe, or are you not going to accept a vaccine because Brexit Britain was the driving force behind getting Europe to licence and roll out the vaccines?
08/01/2021 15:31:43 1 1
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Pity they are not as powerful as our EU ones were. We could have had blue passports and remained in the EU if we wanted to, just changing the colour of our passports would have been a lot cheaper than leaving the most successful trading group in the world.
08/01/2021 15:54:16 0 0
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Remainers.... the rubbish they keep on spouting.
08/01/2021 16:16:44 1 0
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My new passport was issued on Christmas Eve and received in the post on New Year's Eve. Definitely the best present I've had in a very long time.
08/01/2021 16:49:33 0 0
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I wish i did! Born in UK, had blue passport as a kid, gave all the info needed then, e they wanted me to get a reference from someone who was a British National to confirm I was British. I jusr snapped at that point. Gave up........got an Irish one instead......... Same problem dealing with HMRC and other government bodies. It seems government agencies are just not functioning any more.
08/01/2021 19:28:23 0 0
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Yes and we'll have plenty of holiday time in the queues at airports to admire them.
08/01/2021 19:32:52 0 0
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And could have had anyway.
They're a pain to put in most pockets though compared with the maroon ones
08/01/2021 21:35:25 0 0
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Made in Belgium blue passports!
09/01/2021 00:35:50 0 0
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Made in France...
09/01/2021 01:07:25 0 0
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And our nice new blue passport has now dropped 70 in the powerful passports league. Japan and Singapore 1 and 2, and then a whole host of EU counties filling up the top ten.
09/01/2021 08:58:04 0 0
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Have you seen the new passport? For a start,it's black,and nothing at all like the old blue one.It really is not an imposing document.
09/01/2021 09:16:46 0 0
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Thank god my granny was irish. Can stick their blue one were the sun don't shine,
09/01/2021 14:45:45 1 0
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I shall treasure my red one for as long as lasts..! (till 2025). I wish my EU privileges would also last as long..!
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
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Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:28:12 28 12
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Ignorance personified.
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08/01/2021 10:29:26 15 5
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It is sad that thre Brexiteer argument has progressed as followed:

• Brexit will be great
• Brexit won't be as bad as people say
• Brexit has happened, let it go
• It is BBC bias to even discuss it!
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08/01/2021 10:29:31 6 1
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Come on, you love it really!
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08/01/2021 10:30:05 14 3
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Doesn't that give you a chance to list all the benefits of Brexit? Alas there aren't any so you blame the BBC for reporting facts.
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08/01/2021 10:31:09 8 2
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Which you then contribute to, that's logical.
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08/01/2021 10:31:14 13 3
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Hmm. Sounds like someone wants to ensure that the legitimate concerns of those who said, "hang on, there may be downsides" are ignored.

Classic example of "shoot the messenger" when you don't like the message. Trump fan by any chance?
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08/01/2021 10:31:44 14 3
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Why are you so utterly blinkered to the many negative impacts of Brexit?

Upset with media reporting news you don't like?

How very Trumpist.
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08/01/2021 10:32:56 10 3
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You know its overseen by a Tory who is soon to be replaced by another Tory?
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08/01/2021 10:33:00 9 3
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Your ignorance is a dull beacon of knowledge on this thread.
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08/01/2021 10:33:18 11 3
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You're sounding very.... ...Trumpist!

The BBC is one of the few sources of verifiable news in this Trumpist swamp.
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08/01/2021 10:33:28 12 3
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Mummy, I don’t like it when the news reports what major companies say is the reality that I created for them.
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08/01/2021 10:33:42 6 1
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Not unexpected remark.

Not as though it hasn't been reported on all the other media though is it?

If you feel that the BBC should just be in effect a Govt mouthpeice, may I remind you we already have several other papers that do just that, so feel free to read them.

I don't think we are ready for the UK version of Russia Today yet.
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08/01/2021 10:34:16 4 1
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What nonsense. The BBC is heavily biased towards the right nowadays. Haven't you ever watched any of their news output over the last few years? Tory mouthpiece.

And why do you think Farage is always on Question Time?
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08/01/2021 10:26:42 1074 236
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But, but Johnson said there wasn't going to be any additional barriers. Time journalists started to call out these lies as they occur not later. We only have to look at the US to see the impact of this appeasement.......
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08/01/2021 10:33:29 138 14
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World beating stupidity from a populist misgovernment.
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08/01/2021 10:38:34 97 8
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The problem is that whilst many journalists do call out Johnson's never ending lies, the print media in this country is predominantly right wing (Mail, Telegraph, Express) and our primary broadcaster (BBC) has it's hands tied by impartiality.
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08/01/2021 10:41:47 21 7
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The problem is the journalists are also not really doing their job correctly either, this headline was stealth corrected this morning to a less loaded one that more accurately reflects the content and the tagline photo used on the front page displaying queues is from the 29th September 2020.

When journalism fails and starts to lose people's trust, our politicians can skate on anything.
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08/01/2021 10:41:58 10 88
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But you remainers said the sky would fall and millions would loose their jobs even voting for brexit.. funny how the governor of the bank of England is now calling for no regulatory control over banking from Brussels..
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08/01/2021 10:42:49 73 6
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Johnson has based his political prowess on that of his close friend Donald Trump, neither of whom have ever let fact get in the way of their fantasy. We see the results of such derisory behaviour in Washington yesterday. I guess the la la land promised by Boris and his pals just wasn't really meant to be...
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08/01/2021 10:43:34 3 46
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There aren't any additional barriers. As an exporter to the EU, we have always had to complete export paperwork, it is just a different form now.

This is just anti-Brexit propaganda.
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08/01/2021 10:49:44 25 2
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Totally agree with you. Why journalists allow politicians to move on from lies to new lies. Watching Britain's 'best' 'question' cummings (not a politician) was one of the most revealing things I ever witnessed. They should have ignored the pre set questions they were forced provide, stood together and prized open his lies with question after question on live tv.
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08/01/2021 10:53:19 3 10
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Is that why the BBC are using a photo of queues of lorries from September?
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08/01/2021 10:56:09 27 1
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I know, why don't we cut this red tape by joining the EU!
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08/01/2021 11:02:02 11 3
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Well don't expect the BBC to do that because they are the Tories' poodle, kept in place with fear of having the licence fee taken away.
08/01/2021 11:49:46 1 0
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This is additional and new paperwork and inspections etc

They are nee barriers

Do you not work in business man that trades with eu
08/01/2021 11:51:06 1 6
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Half the time it is the journalists who are lying (or incompetent). Notice the change of picure that led this story earlier or queues of lorries at Dover. Wasn't taken today but during a French strike. Nothing to do with Brexit. But you will believe what you want to believe in order to remain in the past.
08/01/2021 11:52:04 6 0
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Do you think he a) read the deal and b) understood it?
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08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
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Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
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08/01/2021 10:27:59 32 9
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Explain how.
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08/01/2021 10:28:46 11 3
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The UK already produces 100% of British goods.
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08/01/2021 10:28:56 11 6
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It's a bit late to say that. Thatcher closed down most of British manufacturing in the 80s.

Buy British is a simple slogan and not an actual economic strategy.
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08/01/2021 10:30:09 8 4
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Yeah, I mean we have the right climate for growing all the fruit and salad that we import from the southern EU countries. Can’t wait to see rows of orange trees growing in Yorkshire.
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08/01/2021 10:30:52 3 2
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Exports !?
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08/01/2021 10:31:45 10 2
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You need to have a manufacturing base.
Like we had before 1980!
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08/01/2021 10:31:47 6 2
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We no longer have any significant manufacturing capacity. Britain is a net consumer not a producer.
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08/01/2021 10:32:50 5 2
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As the problems seem to be mainly with stuff leaving the country, maybe you mean consuming more of our own produce. Most of our fish are exported to the EU, and most of the fishing community voted for Brexit. Go figure.
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08/01/2021 10:39:21 6 2
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Now that's a good idea, import all the raw materials with all the delays and extra expenses caused by these and the devaluation on the £. Build new manufacturing plant, then drive down wages and conditions to compete with China. I suspect it might not work for the bulk of products.
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08/01/2021 10:27:21 1689 478
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"No non-tariff trade barriers"

Whether you think Brexit is a good thing or a bad thing, you have to admit that Johnson said that, just a fortnight ago.

And you have to admit it is clearly wrong.

So you have to admit that he is a liar.
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08/01/2021 10:28:01 1187 338
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Therefore, the question any rational, thinking person has to ask themselves is: what else has he been lying about?
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08/01/2021 10:29:16 159 41
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Come on, cut him some slack - he never knows what is going to come out of his mouth next!
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08/01/2021 10:35:55 55 179
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Try and understand the difference between administration and tariffs.
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08/01/2021 10:42:12 49 102
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Try and understand the difference between "being wrong" and "telling lies".
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08/01/2021 10:44:01 170 29
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DPD has stopped shipments to all EU countries by Road and amazon have cancelled N Ireland orders, so we are stuffed with regard to our EU customers. thank you Boris, Nigel and Michael Grovel
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08/01/2021 10:45:40 71 318
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Bedding down a trade agreement was always going to take time.. Unfortunately, the remainers created such division in the UK (and still are) that they undermined the UK's negotiating position... If you just accepted the results, there would have been a whole year for haulier to prepare.. but no... all thee people willing for something to go wrong...
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08/01/2021 10:46:04 10 28
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Liar or just wrong?
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08/01/2021 10:50:26 26 93
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There are no new non-tariff barriers that weren't there before.

If you knew anything about exporting goods to the EU, you would know that you have always had to fill out export documentation.
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08/01/2021 10:54:21 20 23
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You can't lie about the future, you can only speculate on it
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08/01/2021 10:41:33 24 139
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Remainer go home. We don't care . We WON.
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08/01/2021 10:59:58 23 6
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"No non-tariff trade barriers"

That phrase contains a double-negative, which essentially means that there are trade barriers with tariffs.

Confused.
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08/01/2021 11:00:45 6 22
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No, he is quite right. No tariffs .
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08/01/2021 11:05:26 7 38
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So as some of us have known all along, the EU is a bureaucratic overburdening protective collective which is anything but the 'free trade' area it pretends to be (just ask NZ lamb for instance).
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08/01/2021 11:00:36 10 35
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There aren’t barriers. Simply fill out the correct form - how hard can it be?
08/01/2021 11:15:32 5 15
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Not a lie - just incorrect implementation which doesn't follow the given direction and needs sorting out.
08/01/2021 11:15:37 7 28
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Shows so much class when you reply to your own post when only the first reply is seen unless you click 'more'.

Remember, it was remainers and remain MP's not accepting the referendum result that meant May had to go & Boris came in. A lot of those MP's paid the price with the loss of their constituency's of course when the inevitable GE happened and the public got what they wanted, Brexit sorted.
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lol
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Trump/Farage are from the same mould. Removed
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08/01/2021 10:27:54 166 46
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Yes, they love each other.
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08/01/2021 10:43:36 7 39
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No, Trump and Remainers are of the same mind. All refuse to accept the result of a democratic vote(by exactly the same margin) and incite their followers to march on the seat of government
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08/01/2021 10:45:32 4 18
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As in, are both able to connect with voters in a way that shook both political systems to their core.
I mean, I don't particularly like either of them, but their ability as public speakers (though very different to each other) is remarkable.
08/01/2021 11:13:24 2 19
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They are certrainly the products of the same metropolitan/left-wing arrogance that has ruled for decades (and still does in most of the EU). If we were still in we wouldn't be getting any vaccinations (very few anyway). Peoples' lives were sacrificed in order to keep the EU intact. To allow the rulers to keep their privileges.
08/01/2021 12:48:13 2 0
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You forgot Johnson.
How could you?
08/01/2021 14:27:19 1 0
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Trump / Farage / Johnson perhaps?
08/01/2021 15:30:01 0 0
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Bozo as well.
08/01/2021 15:53:40 0 0
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Barnier/Macron/Napoleon are from the same mould. Continental centralising megalomaniacs.
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08/01/2021 10:27:29 30 22
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Excellent news.
Another leaving the EU benefit.
More to come.
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08/01/2021 10:29:06 14 27
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Still hurting?
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08/01/2021 10:33:28 5 11
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So any hiccup is excellent news to a bitter Remainer? No surprise there.
Trump/Farage are from the same mould. Removed
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08/01/2021 10:27:54 166 46
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Yes, they love each other.
08/01/2021 11:57:31 1 0
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"Trump/Farage are from the same mould."

"Yes, they love each other."

Physically. With tongue and everything.
08/01/2021 16:27:25 0 0
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both are allowed their opinion,, as yes you ,,but they may not agree
08/01/2021 16:17:53 0 0
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I love them to.
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08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
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Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
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08/01/2021 10:27:59 32 9
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Explain how.
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08/01/2021 10:27:21 1689 478
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"No non-tariff trade barriers"

Whether you think Brexit is a good thing or a bad thing, you have to admit that Johnson said that, just a fortnight ago.

And you have to admit it is clearly wrong.

So you have to admit that he is a liar.
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08/01/2021 10:28:01 1187 338
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Therefore, the question any rational, thinking person has to ask themselves is: what else has he been lying about?
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08/01/2021 10:31:36 146 31
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The simple answer to that is every time he opens his mouth
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08/01/2021 10:31:46 92 22
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Quite a lot!
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08/01/2021 10:46:23 36 177
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At least Boris stands up for this country and does not continually try to undermine the UK for Brussels..
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08/01/2021 10:49:12 7 21
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"rational, thinking person"

LOL
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08/01/2021 10:49:33 26 3
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Pretty much everything.
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08/01/2021 10:55:50 27 2
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Almost everything; he's a journalist and a successful (by the measure of having got the top job) politician. The two combined either make him Liar Squared or possibly a bumper-sized Knights and Knaves puzzle. However, a reputation for honesty is very valuable for a successful politician; that's why they'll all lie so much to protect it.
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08/01/2021 11:04:50 1 10
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In his mind he is telling the truth
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08/01/2021 10:28:05 792 165
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It shouldn't be a surprise as all Leavers knew what they were voting for. Strange that they would vote for this though.
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08/01/2021 10:43:43 388 784
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I voted for a system which the laws imposed on the citizens of this country are decided by only the citizens of this country (through representative).
That is what has happened.
On the economic side, unless someone has a crystal ball or are a time traveller, no-one would know what either side (remain/leave) were voting for.
Did remain know we would be contributing to a €750 billion Covid bail out
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08/01/2021 10:48:35 32 94
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Yes freedom costs ... stop trying to tell leavers what they voted for! Get over it!
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08/01/2021 10:54:54 114 24
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They did not know what they were voting for, did not have a clue, voted just because Boris, Farage and Gove told them to do so, brainless people
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08/01/2021 11:10:46 48 1
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English seafood exporters, such as those at Brixham, are now moaning about red tape. But wasn't Brexit about getting rid of rules & regulations? Turkeys voting for Xmas.
08/01/2021 11:30:15 13 0
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Soft/hard Brexit is something that has been conveniently forgotten about.

Many Leavers wanted to remain in the customs union/single market something else.
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
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Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:28:12 28 12
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Ignorance personified.
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08/01/2021 10:33:33 6 1
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Totally agree......these dimwits would rather their news be in Russia-like form which only tells them what they want to hear. Keep reporting fairly BBC, just like the U.S.A. these brain deads are in the minority.
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08/01/2021 10:28:12 188 148
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I work for a multinational, provided you have your paperwork in order it isn't a problem, if businesses can't even complete an online form then they shouldn't be in business!
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08/01/2021 10:31:49 184 57
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You haven’t over simplified the issue at all there!
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08/01/2021 10:30:22 34 24
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You have no idea what your big company does outside of your small area.
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08/01/2021 10:33:23 32 33
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How dare you tell the truth!
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08/01/2021 10:33:57 41 23
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My experience too.

Had absolutely no dramas whatsoever and we're not exactly swamped with administrative resources.

Scratching my head with this 'complexed processes' claim as they're pretty straightforward.
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08/01/2021 10:37:04 3 13
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I'm not surprised with office admin staff getting little more than minimum wage, and having to do more for the same pay why would they have any incentive anyway !!!
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08/01/2021 10:41:32 31 13
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Import and excise duty plus paperwork costs are added to every item going back and forth, regardless of tariffs. Form filling is not the issue - it is the cost of doing business cross-border which now looks 30-50% more expensive than it did in 2020.
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08/01/2021 10:43:09 7 5
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As they still don't know, that's a pretty strange appraisal of there problems..........?
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08/01/2021 10:53:25 7 18
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All of these things are temporary and the eventually the remainders will need to accept the results of the 2016 referendum.. The governor of the bank of England has. The UK is now forecast to be 40% bigger than the French economy by 2035... Funny how the BBC is so stuck in its EU colonial past.. it can't bring itself to reporting for the future... I think the BBC should be moved out of London..
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08/01/2021 10:53:28 16 5
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Clearly you don't work fir a groupage firm. Ten part delivery means ten customs forms, literally half the day spent doing the forms. 50% increase in delivery staff cost. Disaster.
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08/01/2021 10:54:21 4 14
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Most of the commenters on here have no clue about what is involved in exporting to the EU, before or after Brexit.

They suck up the media and opposition propaganda about "non-tariff barriers" and non-existent delays and queues at ports.
542
08/01/2021 10:45:03 20 3
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Customs Agents like DPD don't even know why parcels are being rejected, took my firm 5 hours to do a submission to Ireland, rejected and DPD can't tell us why. Oh just to add I've been importing/exporting Worldwide for over 25 years so your comment really doesnt hold much water, it's chaos.
08/01/2021 11:24:08 10 5
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Fake news!
08/01/2021 11:30:14 14 2
bbc
Yes, what a fool that head of M&S is for raising issues - rank uselessness from one of the longest standing retailers in the country. They must all be idiots - how on earth have they lasted so long? Unless, of course, like everything to do with Brexit, it’s more complicated than that and each business faces unique challenges. But that’s a shade of grey that doesn’t exist in Brexitland
08/01/2021 11:55:31 1 5
bbc
Absolutely!
08/01/2021 12:01:43 9 1
bbc
I don't believe you. I work in supply chain with POAO, DEFRA was changing their guidance the 31st at noon. We haven't send a single product to Ireland this week.
Soo
08/01/2021 14:36:22 1 0
bbc
I can see it being an issue on the first shipment, as neither the companies nor customs really know what's going on. But by the second, third shipment whom can you blame? People don't seem to understand that, tariff free doesn't mean common market or customs union. As far as the shipped products paperwork, there is no difference from "tariff free" to "duties paid", except for payment and receipt.
08/01/2021 14:40:06 3 0
bbc
Trouble is - lots of the businesses facing the issues will not be multinationals.
08/01/2021 17:26:32 3 1
bbc
There is no form that prevents tariffs applying. You have misunderstood the issue.
To avoid the tariffs, they would need to completely change their logitics supply chain - you can't do that in 2 weeks for hundreds of product lines. This is why there should have been a delay between signing the agreement and it coming into effect.
08/01/2021 19:57:22 2 0
bbc
Small to medium enterprises (SMEs) which are on tight margins aren't so lucky.
09/01/2021 00:17:46 2 1
bbc
But most people who voted for Brexit aren't in business
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Bob
08/01/2021 10:28:28 20 43
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I see yet another anti brexit article from the indoctrinating BBC, absolutely scandalous!! The will of the people has prevailed!! Democracy is sacred!!
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08/01/2021 10:30:14 22 8
bbc
Stop whining about the BBC - your Brexit has been done now reality is setting in. Deal with it.
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08/01/2021 10:30:28 6 3
bbc
Meaningless comment on so many levels.
44
08/01/2021 10:30:50 5 3
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Yawn. Wake up to the realities you and your 52% have "willed".
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08/01/2021 10:34:46 5 2
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No matter what the negative impact on business and the economy is! Brexit - the gift that keeps on taking. Supposedly this result was meant to assist small business with trade and exports. The costs of shipping and admin fees have basically stopped companies from exporting and importing with couriers either adding huge admin fees and VAT per package or refusing to ship. Well done everyone!
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08/01/2021 10:28:35 22 27
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There are those who make things happen.
There are those who wonder what just happened to them.

BIG OPPORTUNITY

Market the fish to the UK. An untapped and immature market. Create new demand and sell sell sell.
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08/01/2021 10:29:45 13 5
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Empty rhetoric from somebody with no experience.
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08/01/2021 10:35:18 4 2
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Do you honestly think that hasn’t already been tried? The fishing industry would love to sell most of its produce within the U.K. market but the U.K. population simply don’t choose to buy it. And if they try to stimulate consumption by dropping prices, profitability disappears as reduced income does not cover the costs of catching it.
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08/01/2021 10:40:08 4 2
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Its mostly fish we don't eat. Theres no market in the UK and you can't justmagic one up overnight.

What next. Force feeding?
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08/01/2021 10:47:54 4 2
bbc
That's a great idea. I can't imagine how the UK fishing industry missed out on the opportunity to sell fish in the UK!
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FF
08/01/2021 10:56:58 2 1
bbc
"Create new demand" Bahahahahahaha
8
08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
bbc
Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
20
08/01/2021 10:28:46 11 3
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The UK already produces 100% of British goods.
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08/01/2021 10:28:51 518 110
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Project Fear becomes Project Told you So.
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08/01/2021 10:55:12 281 46
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Yeah but unfortunately it also becomes "Project we all have to live it". "Told you so" is cold comfort
08/01/2021 11:19:47 25 5
bbc
There was never a Project Fear just a Project Truth against Project Lies and Racism.
08/01/2021 14:24:09 4 12
bbc
Does it....go back and read project fear.....house prices at record highs, FTSE at record highs, no medicine shortages, no food shortages, no world war three, no lorry park in Kent, no return to the "troubles"

Project fear was 1000x any lie on the side of a bus!!
08/01/2021 14:34:29 3 4
bbc
Except that instead of 'Nissan closing Sunderland' it is 'Dutch Bike Bitz doesn't want to register to collect UK VAT' - hmm, were not rejoiners whinging that Amazon didn't want to pay UK VAT over the past 4 or more years? ;-)
08/01/2021 15:56:51 4 3
bbc
And Project Cliche. You see the same Remainer phrases in every BBC discussion.
08/01/2021 17:25:21 1 2
bbc
Oh dear we may have to make adjustments how will these businesses survive :'D
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08/01/2021 10:28:56 29 13
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Boris only ever gives you a few days notice if any at all

Team United lost and the toxic tory press won .... if you feel misled ... tell your family and friends not to buy their paper tomorrow

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08/01/2021 10:31:12 10 35
bbc
What Tory press was that? Nearly every paper was anti Brexit.
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08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
bbc
Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
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08/01/2021 10:28:56 11 6
bbc
It's a bit late to say that. Thatcher closed down most of British manufacturing in the 80s.

Buy British is a simple slogan and not an actual economic strategy.
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08/01/2021 10:28:56 894 154
bbc
Quitters: "Blame the remainers"
Who saw that coming? ..... everyone.
They don't have the EU to blame any more so it was inevitable the mess they created would still be someone else's fault
...the blind right wing fanatics who believed the Bojo lies and vote leave propaganda will never admit the monumental folly that is brexit
Removed
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08/01/2021 10:50:14 9 46
bbc
Saw what coming.. why on earth do you think leavers are upset.. this is a great day!
08/01/2021 11:21:26 58 4
bbc
Of cause the problems caused by Brexit should be blamed on those that fought for and voted for Brexit. They asked for it. Who else should be blaimed?
08/01/2021 12:23:38 2 12
bbc
Isn't the problem that some feel they need to blame someone else.

There are issues; but instead of complaining (in a place where it has zero impact!) writers here should just get on with their business.

(That applies to both sides - though there shouldn't be sides in any case! Oh, no - my logic has failed.)
08/01/2021 15:43:18 2 6
bbc
Remainers: blame the Leavers for every tiny hitch.

Who saw that coming?...everyone.
08/01/2021 18:44:48 1 1
bbc
I voted to leave and know full well there would be things like this no matter what Boris says. Only an idiot would listen to any politician and think that's the gods honest truth - grow up.

The problem here is the greed caused by humanity and nothing else.

Hopefully this unhealthy food will be removed from our shelves.
08/01/2021 23:11:25 0 0
bbc
Not them as they are a bit dim.
09/01/2021 14:32:55 1 0
bbc
Unfortunately, Remainers, the EU, and the BBC will continue to be blamed for the national disaster that is Brexit! And it's all madly depressing..! Capped with Covid! Boy, these are years to remember - that I wish we could forget..!
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08/01/2021 10:29:03 17 30
bbc
BBC report contradicting another BBC report saying no problems at Dover or Calais
Move on rejoiners nothing to see here
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08/01/2021 10:31:18 6 1
bbc
Dover-Calais is important, as Dominic Raab found out shortly after getting the job to be in charge of it, but it isn't everything.
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08/01/2021 10:35:49 0 2
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Interestingly enough the first time they published the story the photo was of trucks queuing, but in the article they said traffic was only 50% of normal. Then I noticed the photo had changed to the fish packers as their original story was contradicted by the photo.
138
08/01/2021 10:35:49 1 2
bbc
LOL - back on your rubber-band.
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08/01/2021 10:27:29 30 22
bbc
Excellent news.
Another leaving the EU benefit.
More to come.
26
08/01/2021 10:29:06 14 27
bbc
Still hurting?
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08/01/2021 10:32:29 13 5
bbc
We all are, and will be. Acting like it's a football match and you 'won' is just childish posturing at this point. Grow up.
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08/01/2021 10:29:12 652 131
bbc
Welcome to Project Reality.
08/01/2021 11:18:11 480 97
bbc
The thing is "project fear" was aptly named. Those of us with the intelligence to see what the consequences of Brexit would be were justifiably fearful. We could see that populism was going to lead to self harm being inflicted upon our country and that lies and deceit would be used to sideline warnings of that impending damage.
08/01/2021 11:56:44 21 6
bbc
"Tacking back control" ????

More like LOST control of anything and everything !
08/01/2021 13:46:59 0 8
bbc
Lock-down, do wake up.
08/01/2021 14:22:15 8 14
bbc
a few fish and a Dutch bike company....where is the FTSE crash, the house price crash, world war 3, medicine shortages, cliff edge you promised!!!
08/01/2021 15:50:47 3 13
bbc
Yawn. What an original comment (NOT).
08/01/2021 20:52:33 1 1
bbc
Vaccinations, influence in the EU, yep, we leavers told you Brexit would be good for us, and we've only been free for 8 days, 3 of them holidays and most locked down across Europe, once we get over this Covid Cult hysteria, we can sit back and watch the EZ and remember our lucky escape from it.
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08/01/2021 10:27:21 1689 478
bbc
"No non-tariff trade barriers"

Whether you think Brexit is a good thing or a bad thing, you have to admit that Johnson said that, just a fortnight ago.

And you have to admit it is clearly wrong.

So you have to admit that he is a liar.
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08/01/2021 10:29:16 159 41
bbc
Come on, cut him some slack - he never knows what is going to come out of his mouth next!
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
bbc
Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:29:26 15 5
bbc
It is sad that thre Brexiteer argument has progressed as followed:

• Brexit will be great
• Brexit won't be as bad as people say
• Brexit has happened, let it go
• It is BBC bias to even discuss it!
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08/01/2021 10:29:26 274 70
bbc
Is anybody surprised, obvious four and a half years ago ?
08/01/2021 11:37:12 202 41
bbc
It was obvious to those capable of critical thinking and not burdened with a sense of "British Exceptionalism" (i.e. labouring under the false assumption that the UK is in some way "special" and would receive better than average treatment by other nations).

It wasn't obvious to those who believed that Brexit was what the largely non-dom owned Brexit supporting press told them it would be....
08/01/2021 16:03:45 0 6
bbc
Yawn.
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
bbc
Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:29:31 6 1
bbc
Come on, you love it really!
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08/01/2021 10:29:37 15 21
bbc
Too many businesses failed to take Brexit seriously and fobbed away from learning of the implications. No point in crying over spilt milk. They had the time to address this
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08/01/2021 10:33:49 6 2
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Too many businesses had no idea what to prepare for up until 2 weeks ago.
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08/01/2021 10:34:39 2 2
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They had time to address the unknown
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SH
08/01/2021 10:35:55 3 1
bbc
Really? The government didn't actually make a deal until this Christmas and you're saying you knew what that deal was going to be?
It doesn't really matter what preparations a company makes until they actually know what the deal is and implications would be then they can't implement them and then there's the people who need to check the papers and they need to know what forms are needed.
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08/01/2021 10:36:02 2 1
bbc
Seven days over Christmas and New Year? Until Christmas Eve, nobody had any indication of what to prepare for
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08/01/2021 10:38:27 2 1
bbc
No they didn't. We haven't even sorted out the rules or inspection regimes yet, thats why itshappening.
539
08/01/2021 10:43:16 1 0
bbc
Time to address this? I am the owner of a small business. We followed all the steps to prepare for Brexit and being able to continue shipping to the EU. This is not only a matter of getting the right paperwork ready. The new procedures are HUGELY expensive. Customs clearance fees, VAT registration in every country you ship to, VAT clearance fees etc etc...
Failed to take it seriously?? Time to address a deal only made on Dec 24th. Don't be a bollocks mate. Removed
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08/01/2021 10:29:41 15 21
bbc
Expected teething problems of a revised system. Only 1% of lorries turned up without proper paperwork. Seems much ado about nothing, but no doubt the Remoaners will rub their hands together with glee.
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08/01/2021 10:31:00 3 2
bbc
Or just watch with interest as we aren't small children.
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08/01/2021 10:39:00 2 2
bbc
How many lorries is 1%?????????????
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08/01/2021 10:29:52 13 14
bbc
Shock / Horror...first article to get a HYS is a whine fest from those struggling to adapt to change, give it about 4-6 weeks and everyone will get the hang of it...but of course a doom and gloom article is required under the Brexit section (even though its happened and finished with so Brexit is now actually non existent!)
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08/01/2021 10:29:54 566 105
bbc
I thought we were getting the exact same benefits with no tarrif barriers? Surely Boris wouldn't lie to us? Obviously the Brexiters will spun this as somehow positive though.
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08/01/2021 10:36:31 154 455
bbc
"I thought we were getting the exact same benefits with no tarrif barriers?"

We are, but it is inevitable that the import/export process had to change. This is temporary, and will be resolved fairly soon. The fact that companies like M&S claim to be struggling with the process is symptomatic of their poor business management (and has been for years).
08/01/2021 11:14:48 11 36
bbc
Apart from food; has anyone who lives in the UK bought anything from M&S in years? Nothing to do with Brexit. But an easy excuse.
08/01/2021 15:55:07 2 2
bbc
Obviously the BBC Remoaners sill make the most of every small problem.
08/01/2021 17:06:30 1 1
bbc
No we weren’t, we got our country back. Do you actually read anything or do you live in Narnia?
08/01/2021 17:58:58 2 0
bbc
There are no tariffs, this has nothing to do with tariffs. This is to do with customs.
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
bbc
Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:30:05 14 3
bbc
Doesn't that give you a chance to list all the benefits of Brexit? Alas there aren't any so you blame the BBC for reporting facts.
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08/01/2021 10:30:08 314 42
bbc
This is scare mongering
Priti Patel said there will be ‘a bonfire of the red tape’ when we leave the eu
Will the next interviewer remind her of this!
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08/01/2021 10:38:26 67 43
bbc
No it isn’t. It’s passing on information.
If you are scared, it’s YOUR problem to deal with.
08/01/2021 11:23:14 19 2
bbc
There cant be a 'bonfire of red tape' when it is a requirement of the country you are exporting to. The whole point of the customs union was to do away with customs paperwork when we move goods between EU states and we chose to leave that as part of Brexit
08/01/2021 12:13:33 6 1
bbc
It is cold out there currently so do not rely on any Patel bonfire for warmth - hot air perhaps.
08/01/2021 15:08:42 7 2
bbc
It was clearly a typo; should have read 'Bonanza of red tape'.
08/01/2021 15:31:12 9 1
bbc
I run a business, and 80% of our trade is with customers in the EU. We were already buried under a mountain of admin and red tape. Brexit has just heaped another mountain load on top of the existing mountain!

Some days, I feel like just giving up.
08/01/2021 15:56:56 2 1
bbc
Not If it's a BBC interviewer!
09/01/2021 14:55:00 0 0
bbc
Can we wrap all that red tape around Ms Patel..? Tightly?
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08/01/2021 10:30:09 22 23
bbc
A full week into 2021 and the new rules, and there's just 'growing unease'? I'd call that a win! If you'd listened to some doom-mongers, the supermarket shelves would be entirely empty by now!
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08/01/2021 10:31:53 11 5
bbc
Read the story. It's very early days yet with many hauliers holding back to see how things go - hence only 50% of the flow we would expect and yet still there are problems.
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08/01/2021 10:32:16 4 2
bbc
Yep its very disappointing for the BBC not to have the total chaos they have been predicting for years. But they seem determined to fulfill their own prophecy anyway!!
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08/01/2021 10:37:34 1 1
bbc
How do you know?
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08/01/2021 10:39:04 1 1
bbc
Give it time....
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08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
bbc
Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
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08/01/2021 10:30:09 8 4
bbc
Yeah, I mean we have the right climate for growing all the fruit and salad that we import from the southern EU countries. Can’t wait to see rows of orange trees growing in Yorkshire.
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Hex
08/01/2021 10:31:50 8 6
bbc
Well now we can import from outside the EU, oranges are 16% cheaper as we won't need to apply the EU tarriff.
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Bob
08/01/2021 10:28:28 20 43
bbc
I see yet another anti brexit article from the indoctrinating BBC, absolutely scandalous!! The will of the people has prevailed!! Democracy is sacred!!
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08/01/2021 10:30:14 22 8
bbc
Stop whining about the BBC - your Brexit has been done now reality is setting in. Deal with it.
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08/01/2021 10:30:20 1234 344
bbc
You get what you voted for!
At least we got back sovereignty and control of our borders!
Oh I forgot we never lost that in the first place!
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08/01/2021 10:46:58 542 1113
bbc
If you change your computer systems in a workplace, there are always major teething and logistical issues, but it doesn't mean you should stick with a failed, ancient, unfit for purpose system instead. You Remoaners are such dinosaurs. Time to join the real global world of trade!
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08/01/2021 10:49:23 15 32
bbc
Yes we did , except you took the silver... Sorry about the skiing holidays
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08/01/2021 11:09:45 82 5
bbc
To be honest a few admin issues is the least of our worries. What you’re seeing now is what they said would never happen. All the public protections we had under the EU are now being eroded. Changes to workers rights and food and environment protections being rushed through. GM foods are being legalised in the U.K. and a 25 year coal mining operation is starting in Cumbria - just awful
08/01/2021 11:28:32 4 20
bbc
Stop crying and get on with it
08/01/2021 11:46:26 13 1
bbc
Really --- what's happened to free-movement of people & goods to Northern Ireland? --- & it would now seem we have to show our passports to EU Frontex officials when we enter the British Territory of Gibraltar? What price sovereignty now? --- sounds like half a sovereign now -
08/01/2021 11:47:32 12 2
bbc
Blue Passports, don't forget Blue Passports. Oh there actually Black, Oh look printed in the EU.
08/01/2021 11:49:42 5 3
bbc
Can't wait to see you lot lose your s**t when the first immigrants land on the south coast after passing through our "controlled borders".
08/01/2021 11:55:39 0 5
bbc
Naive view....
08/01/2021 12:03:05 5 7
bbc
I studied for a Graduate Diploma In Law including European Law and I can assure you 100% that we totally surrendered the sovereignty of our courts and Parliament under the various treaties.
08/01/2021 12:15:44 2 6
bbc
wrong! as usual another remoaner meme, border control is only for emergencies and french got told to reopen theirs after their recent feet stamping
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08/01/2021 10:30:28 17 29
bbc
The EU can make things as awkward as they like. Anything to deflect from the real issue of the Lisbon Treaty which remainers don't like to discuss.
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08/01/2021 10:33:35 6 2
bbc
The Lisbon Treaty gave MEPs more law making powers and influence. Bojo voted against it.

Not sure what your point is, or what Bojo's was either.
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ZG
08/01/2021 10:35:00 4 1
bbc
Happy to discuss. What's your particular beef?
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08/01/2021 10:36:00 4 1
bbc
We do like to discuss it. We like to point out that the list of around 30 items that's been circulating for years making claims about what the Treaty of Lisbon is supposed to do in 2020 or 2022 is a load of made up garbage! The Treaty was signed in 2007 and FULLY implemented in 2009. There is nothing in there about 2020 or 2022, and nothing to substantiate any of the claimed changes.
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08/01/2021 10:36:45 4 1
bbc
Which Lisbon Treaty are you referring to? The real one which came into force back in 2009 or the fake news one (2022)? https://fullfact.org/online/Lisbon-treaty-short-list/
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08/01/2021 10:37:01 4 1
bbc
Its the deal we signed up to and its a 2 way street. Making tenuous links with the Treaty is a complete waste of intellect.
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08/01/2021 10:38:23 5 1
bbc
Would that be (thanks to paranoid brexiteers):

1. The EU is creating a prison-like superstate.
2. They will take over your life. You will have no freedom.
3. Your kids will be conscripted into an EU super-army.

Well ???????

Typical brexiteer paranoid utter rubbish. Remainers like to discuss real facts, real consequences not delusional Faragist nonsense.
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08/01/2021 10:38:34 5 1
bbc
Being in the EU makes things easy.

We left the EU. Things are now awkward.
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Bob
08/01/2021 10:28:28 20 43
bbc
I see yet another anti brexit article from the indoctrinating BBC, absolutely scandalous!! The will of the people has prevailed!! Democracy is sacred!!
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08/01/2021 10:30:28 6 3
bbc
Meaningless comment on so many levels.
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Bob
08/01/2021 10:28:28 20 43
bbc
I see yet another anti brexit article from the indoctrinating BBC, absolutely scandalous!! The will of the people has prevailed!! Democracy is sacred!!
44
08/01/2021 10:30:50 5 3
bbc
Yawn. Wake up to the realities you and your 52% have "willed".
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08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
bbc
Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
45
08/01/2021 10:30:52 3 2
bbc
Exports !?
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08/01/2021 10:31:00 99 26
bbc
Brexit causes trade chaos. Why am I not surprised ?
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08/01/2021 10:52:03 19 56
bbc
It had to otherwise Brussels would have lost the battle to exist in its current bloated form
08/01/2021 21:19:58 0 4
bbc
EU causes chaos, but don't worry, covid lock-downs will soon make that a thing of the past, though the chaos that the EU is going to go through first won't be pretty.
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08/01/2021 10:25:48 28 43
bbc
We start from a position of complete equivalence.

It surely cannot be that difficult.

Unless people want to make it difficult.
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08/01/2021 10:31:01 10 3
bbc
For many of these businesses the UK is making it trade difficult.
For example, for now a product with EU certification will pass UK certification. But the UK wants the ability to diverge in future so is insisting that businesses have the UK certification... and pay for it.
For businesses this means paying twice for certification or abandoning a market.
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
bbc
Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:31:09 8 2
bbc
Which you then contribute to, that's logical.
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08/01/2021 10:31:11 29 19
bbc
People forget we had all this import/export issues before the EU existed and up to the advent of the EU after Maastrich. Countries from outside the EU other than the few with some form of deal have exactly the same issues.
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08/01/2021 10:35:44 16 34
bbc
Very true but EUrophiles have always struggled with admitting that there are 170 other countries in the world that some how cope!
They frequently refer to anywhere outside Europe as "the wilderness" (and they reckon Bexiteers are the racists!!!)
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del
08/01/2021 10:47:54 5 0
bbc
But going basically from nothing to something (no one knowing until a few days before what that something is) is not going to be easy for all companies. Many are very small business with few staff and little slack/money.
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08/01/2021 10:28:56 29 13
bbc


Boris only ever gives you a few days notice if any at all

Team United lost and the toxic tory press won .... if you feel misled ... tell your family and friends not to buy their paper tomorrow

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08/01/2021 10:31:12 10 35
bbc
What Tory press was that? Nearly every paper was anti Brexit.
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08/01/2021 10:34:44 17 2
bbc
Express, Mail, Telegraph, Sun, Times (ish), - you were saying?
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08/01/2021 10:36:54 5 1
bbc
Behave.
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08/01/2021 10:43:36 10 2
bbc
The Express, The Mail, The Times, The Telegraph, even that doyen of political reporting - The Sun, and the list goes on.... all Tory puppets and mouth pieces!!!!
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Pip
08/01/2021 10:51:45 3 0
bbc
You've been reading to much Andrex...........?
09/01/2021 23:12:44 0 0
bbc
? The Daily Mail!
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
bbc
Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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ZG
08/01/2021 10:31:14 13 3
bbc
Hmm. Sounds like someone wants to ensure that the legitimate concerns of those who said, "hang on, there may be downsides" are ignored.

Classic example of "shoot the messenger" when you don't like the message. Trump fan by any chance?
25
08/01/2021 10:29:03 17 30
bbc
BBC report contradicting another BBC report saying no problems at Dover or Calais
Move on rejoiners nothing to see here
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08/01/2021 10:31:18 6 1
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Dover-Calais is important, as Dominic Raab found out shortly after getting the job to be in charge of it, but it isn't everything.
Trump/Farage are from the same mould. Removed
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08/01/2021 10:31:19 9 2
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54
08/01/2021 10:31:25 7 13
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Oh! Change!
I just can't cope!
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08/01/2021 10:34:16 2 2
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Nor can business. Well done.
09/01/2021 00:36:24 0 0
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No, you needed to go back to 1970 instead. Congratulations you dinosaur.
14
08/01/2021 10:28:01 1187 338
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Therefore, the question any rational, thinking person has to ask themselves is: what else has he been lying about?
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08/01/2021 10:31:36 146 31
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The simple answer to that is every time he opens his mouth
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08/01/2021 10:31:39 12 17
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The OC
10:28
"Project Fear becomes Project Told you So."

REALLY???
Where is:
the run on GBP
Stock Market Crash
WW3
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08/01/2021 10:34:55 5 2
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Actually, our currency dropped dramatically against the euro & dollar in 2016. If you can bother to google it, you'll find a picture of smirking liar and conman Farage pointing to a graph on a monitor showing the crash, so much does he care....You get less bang for your £ now thanks to that liar.
178
08/01/2021 10:38:15 2 1
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Boris made the WW3 claim so glad to see you're starting to call out his lies.
399
08/01/2021 10:49:02 0 0
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FYI the FTSE 100 comprises multinational conglomerates and it bears no reflection on the state of the UK economy. It is more reflective on how these individual companies are performing world wide and their value in view of comparative international currencies.
57
08/01/2021 10:31:39 71 12
bbc
Someone needs to start a business supplying red tape.
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08/01/2021 10:44:04 27 2
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UK businesses Couldn't cope with the demand.
We'd have to import it!
To reduce Carbon footprint we could try the EU?
383
08/01/2021 10:48:09 1 1
bbc
This has already been set up - with branches in Brussels and Whitehall
08/01/2021 20:11:57 0 0
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They have. Every action to safeguard ‘public’ interest is a potential goldmine if a regulation can be used as the sales hook

For example support providers worry the government so that the impenetrable maze must have a guide. This actually makes things less clear.

Nobody who supplies support or who regulates likes the idea of giving up their job by removing red tape.
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
bbc
Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
58
08/01/2021 10:31:44 14 3
bbc
Why are you so utterly blinkered to the many negative impacts of Brexit?

Upset with media reporting news you don't like?

How very Trumpist.
09/01/2021 02:21:12 0 0
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How very Trumpist of you to ignore a democratic vote
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08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
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Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
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08/01/2021 10:31:45 10 2
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You need to have a manufacturing base.
Like we had before 1980!
14
08/01/2021 10:28:01 1187 338
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Therefore, the question any rational, thinking person has to ask themselves is: what else has he been lying about?
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08/01/2021 10:31:46 92 22
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Quite a lot!
8
08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
bbc
Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
61
08/01/2021 10:31:47 6 2
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We no longer have any significant manufacturing capacity. Britain is a net consumer not a producer.
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Hex
08/01/2021 10:28:12 188 148
bbc
I work for a multinational, provided you have your paperwork in order it isn't a problem, if businesses can't even complete an online form then they shouldn't be in business!
62
08/01/2021 10:31:49 184 57
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You haven’t over simplified the issue at all there!
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08/01/2021 10:35:54 34 22
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No he has not...Our business put resources and stock management in place over 12 months ago to ensure no effect on our customers..its called business planning..too many looking for a get out card because they lacked planning
580
08/01/2021 10:55:35 8 14
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He works for a multinational company exporting to the EU, so is speaking from experience. Maybe he has simplified the issue because it is simple.
08/01/2021 14:45:39 1 5
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LOL oh dear, he doesn't agree with you so he isn't right, Typical remoaner, we had one earlier on denying that the UK's vaccine program had nothing to do with the Germans kicking the EU up the rear end and finally, weeks later getting the EU to licence a vaccine as the UK had already done so.
39
08/01/2021 10:30:09 8 4
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Yeah, I mean we have the right climate for growing all the fruit and salad that we import from the southern EU countries. Can’t wait to see rows of orange trees growing in Yorkshire.
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Hex
08/01/2021 10:31:50 8 6
bbc
Well now we can import from outside the EU, oranges are 16% cheaper as we won't need to apply the EU tarriff.
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08/01/2021 10:36:55 5 2
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Brilliant. Can't wait to exploit those third world farmers, have them destroy more rainforests to provide us palm oil and the like, cause more pollution in the seas and sky due to lengthy transportation (which also adds to costs), all the while paying WTO tariffs while we spend years forming new trade deals (or rushing through rubbish ones)... Viva Brexit. For some reason.
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08/01/2021 10:30:09 22 23
bbc
A full week into 2021 and the new rules, and there's just 'growing unease'? I'd call that a win! If you'd listened to some doom-mongers, the supermarket shelves would be entirely empty by now!
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08/01/2021 10:31:53 11 5
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Read the story. It's very early days yet with many hauliers holding back to see how things go - hence only 50% of the flow we would expect and yet still there are problems.
65
08/01/2021 10:32:00 29 8
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It's just temporary, and now the UK can count on Pesident Trump's support.
7
08/01/2021 10:26:42 1074 236
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But, but Johnson said there wasn't going to be any additional barriers. Time journalists started to call out these lies as they occur not later. We only have to look at the US to see the impact of this appeasement.......
Dumb comment Removed
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08/01/2021 10:37:00 77 9
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Why is it dumb exactly? The populists literally stirred a political rally into a frenzy based on a lie and got them to storm the US Capitol building which resulted in the deaths of 5 people including 1 police officer, and several bombs were found.

I think yours is the dumb comment because you are advocating political lies
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08/01/2021 10:37:32 54 7
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Brilliantly worded and thought-out reply, my eloquent friend.

Next time you feel the need to contribute, I suggest you don’t.
463
08/01/2021 10:40:57 6 1
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Your votes suggest not!
Removed
08/01/2021 11:34:29 7 0
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Do you just comment this to everything you disagree with... maybe try explaining why it is dumb and you might have some people agree with you (but I doubt you can explain why as you never do)
38
08/01/2021 10:30:09 22 23
bbc
A full week into 2021 and the new rules, and there's just 'growing unease'? I'd call that a win! If you'd listened to some doom-mongers, the supermarket shelves would be entirely empty by now!
67
08/01/2021 10:32:16 4 2
bbc
Yep its very disappointing for the BBC not to have the total chaos they have been predicting for years. But they seem determined to fulfill their own prophecy anyway!!
68
08/01/2021 10:32:18 401 71
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Johnson and Gove assured us that these problems for UK exporters would not happen. Let's have a press conference so they can tell UK businesses what they are going to do about it, before they go bust.
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08/01/2021 10:33:26 97 282
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"Johnson and Gove assured us that these problems for UK exporters would not happen. "

I'm pretty sure they didn't.
761
08/01/2021 11:03:27 7 52
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Why should the Government do anything? It is up to the budnesses to get things right, they have had plenty of time to prepare.
813
08/01/2021 11:05:30 10 43
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Johnson and Gove (and thousands of Government Ads) told us to be prepared to do customs declarations from January 1st regardless of the outcome of the trade negotiations. Our business listened and our lorries are all arriving successfully.

I hope plenty of remainer led businesses kept their heads in the sand as we'll be profiting from their lethargy.
08/01/2021 13:06:53 15 3
bbc
They'll just blame business for their failures (and did so even before 31 December). Typical nationalistic response - just blame anyone else for their own inadequacies: business, foreigners, immigrants, the EU.
08/01/2021 16:52:24 3 1
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There is a credibility problem here. Many simply do not believe them any more, and that is dangerous. Government relies on the consent of the people, not just at election time. Just look over the Atlantic and see the consequences.
1
08/01/2021 10:25:48 28 43
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We start from a position of complete equivalence.

It surely cannot be that difficult.

Unless people want to make it difficult.
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08/01/2021 10:32:23 5 3
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In that case you've completely misunderstood the trade deal that Johnson signed.
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08/01/2021 10:32:24 10 8
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It's never made clear whether these are one-off issues or on-going issues.

Hopefully they're one-off, but in reality I suspect they'll plague trade indefinitely, making the UK a very unattractive prospect.

Regardless of the leave campaign's misleading promises, anybody with half a brain must have seen this huge issue on the horizon when voting in the referendum.
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08/01/2021 10:46:11 2 1
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Re your last paragraph sadly, many Leavers lacked the intelligence to research and believed what they were told down 'Spoons or by Frogarge.
26
08/01/2021 10:29:06 14 27
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Still hurting?
71
08/01/2021 10:32:29 13 5
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We all are, and will be. Acting like it's a football match and you 'won' is just childish posturing at this point. Grow up.
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08/01/2021 10:28:39 349 69
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Are these the sunlit uplands we were promised?
08/01/2021 11:19:09 231 42
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And where's my unicorn? I was promised a unicorn!
08/01/2021 12:04:02 5 1
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And where are the Unicorns?
08/01/2021 16:03:18 0 15
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I wish I had a quid for every time I saw a Remainer use the phrase 'sunlit uplands' on a BBC Brexit discussion. Do you cut and paste your comments?
08/01/2021 17:15:11 7 0
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Yes. Please ignore the stench of rotting fish.
08/01/2021 19:39:55 5 0
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Very near Barnard Castle apparently.
PG
08/01/2021 21:21:22 1 0
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yes with £250 million a week savings
09/01/2021 16:34:13 0 0
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The sunlit uplands were lost in a cloud of experimental ideology a long time ago and will now never be found.
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08/01/2021 10:28:54 495 106
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Cue sound of Brexiteers sticking their heads in the sand and refusing that anything could be a negative effect of Brexit....... as always it will be somebody else's fault.
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08/01/2021 11:06:50 37 26
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Cue my response to a post 2 slots above your one. Spot on.
928
08/01/2021 11:10:01 7 5
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Truly naive to assume so fundamental a change with our largest trading partner would be hassle free.

The real question is "how long will it take to solve them"
08/01/2021 14:38:07 3 4
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No that is the sound of people getting vaccinated, a sigh of relief on realising that is a Brexit benefit that even the people of the EU can benefit from. ;-)
08/01/2021 15:55:52 7 3
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No Brexiteers would argue why are you not making it in the UK in the first place it is not like we cannot manufacture sweets. These companies were allowed to move their production abroad at the cost of British workers so the company Bosses would profit. Time to bring it here again and simplify to a local production chain. Better for the environment!
08/01/2021 15:59:24 4 6
bbc
Cue sound of Remoaners coming out with the same tired and negative phrases that they have been using on every BBC Brexit discussion for four and a half years.
08/01/2021 17:30:13 0 3
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Cue sound of remainers refusing to hear anything negative about the EU ...do all those adverts on the TV not annoy you ? ..the EU did that last year . We used to have a maximum amount anow they can have as many as they like . At least you will still be able to see all those US dramas on Netflix because they intend to curb those as well . Maybe just a little thing but then so is a pink pig
08/01/2021 17:52:20 1 3
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Cue Remain fanatics taking every opportunity to push their ideology without reasoned analysis and recognising that they are as dogmatic and unreasonable as those they oppose. The lack of self awareness on both sides is depressing.
08/01/2021 18:39:03 0 0
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At least if their heads are far enough in to the sand we'll have somewhere to park our bikes....
08/01/2021 19:36:35 0 1
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Some will stick their heads in the sand. The vast majority of those who voted for Brexit knew there would be short term costs

Did remainers believe the hype about an impossible trade deal, DIY recessions, everyone unemployed? I think more people believed that than brexit voters who thought there was no downside.

What's sad is that a proportion of the country is praying for the UK to fail.
08/01/2021 19:42:39 0 1
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Try this for size, had the outdated Unions not backed the wrong Milliband,Cameron will have never got into power, and hey presto, no referendum.......So well done to the TUC.
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08/01/2021 10:28:35 22 27
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There are those who make things happen.
There are those who wonder what just happened to them.

BIG OPPORTUNITY

Market the fish to the UK. An untapped and immature market. Create new demand and sell sell sell.
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08/01/2021 10:29:45 13 5
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Empty rhetoric from somebody with no experience.
5
08/01/2021 10:26:37 508 136
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Brexit....the gift that keeps on giving. Still, at least we have blue passports now.
They’re more of a blacky colour... Removed
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08/01/2021 10:39:47 24 8
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Don't tell Brexiteers...
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Pip
08/01/2021 10:40:57 26 9
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Similar to the colour of our future.......?
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08/01/2021 10:45:06 9 15
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Indeed they are. Whe passport production is brought back to the UK maybe we will get blue. At present they are made by a French company with a plant in Poland which seems to be colour blind..
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08/01/2021 10:49:03 34 4
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Shhhh it was people's aversion to that colour that which started all this!
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SJ
08/01/2021 10:51:23 42 3
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The pre EC ones were black. I have two of them. Brexit is all about false memories...
08/01/2021 11:15:04 14 0
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And made in France.
08/01/2021 11:54:37 3 0
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And printed in the EU.
08/01/2021 11:58:08 4 0
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The Brexitters must hate that...
08/01/2021 15:48:08 0 0
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And they are made in the EU.
08/01/2021 16:34:52 0 0
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CAREFUL?? YOU ARE COURTING RACISM??USING COLORS!!
08/01/2021 17:13:42 0 0
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And made in France - you couldn't make it up
08/01/2021 18:45:44 0 0
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Designed in France and printed in Poland. Fab...
08/01/2021 22:11:40 0 0
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Black passports matter too!
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Hex
08/01/2021 10:28:12 188 148
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I work for a multinational, provided you have your paperwork in order it isn't a problem, if businesses can't even complete an online form then they shouldn't be in business!
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08/01/2021 10:30:22 34 24
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You have no idea what your big company does outside of your small area.
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08/01/2021 10:43:14 10 10
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what, and you do.??
08/01/2021 14:47:38 1 4
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How do you know? You have no idea what he does in his Multi-national, and I notice that Project Fear is now ignoring Nissan and going for the real giant multi-nationals like 'Beer on the Web' and 'Dutch Bike Bitz' - how are the mighty remoaners fallen? ;-)
08/01/2021 16:41:55 1 3
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I do though and if a multinational with manufacturing plants in Aberdeen, Dunfermline and Leeds can export capital equipment to West African countries, why can't these people export their sweeties and haddock to European countries? Paperwork isn't hard, it just needs application and procedures.
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08/01/2021 10:30:58 35 7
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Good job we dont need to export Unicorns
298
08/01/2021 10:43:47 20 4
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Should be safe enough if they're frozen and not living or fresh.
33
08/01/2021 10:29:41 15 21
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Expected teething problems of a revised system. Only 1% of lorries turned up without proper paperwork. Seems much ado about nothing, but no doubt the Remoaners will rub their hands together with glee.
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08/01/2021 10:31:00 3 2
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Or just watch with interest as we aren't small children.
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08/01/2021 10:32:44 9 18
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I love what the BBC / federalists do.

They predict the sky falling in (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/14/official-post-brexit-report-warns-of-queues-of-7000-lorries-in-kent)

and when it doesn’t they come up with whatever minor issues they can find.

I understand, the people you looked down on your whole lives firstly beat you and were then proved to be right, that must be hard.
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08/01/2021 10:38:20 2 2
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Death of Scottish Fishing? Minor? OK, it won’t kill the UK, but we are talking about people’s livelihoods and century old traditions.
This is basically England’s Brexit and the English Brexiters don’t care what damage they inflict on millions of others. (Some even seem to revel in it)
195
08/01/2021 10:39:04 2 2
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The battle's over John, they lost. Now their mantra is nit-picking. The rest of the country has moved on.
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08/01/2021 10:44:08 1 3
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Good head in sand post. Blame the messenger rather than own up to the mess their blind ideology has caused.
828
08/01/2021 11:06:13 0 0
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So your head is still firmly stuck in the sand, I see.
Look in a mirror, if you want to see someone distorting facts.
People like you ignore any issues, minor or major, that arise with Brexit & howl 'Project Fear' at the moon. You need to try to see things in something other than B&W. This is anything other than simple.
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08/01/2021 10:32:48 20 12
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Frictionless lies.
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08/01/2021 10:32:50 16 8
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It's started!
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08/01/2021 10:26:43 25 26
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Sounds like we should be producing more of our own British goods...
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08/01/2021 10:32:50 5 2
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As the problems seem to be mainly with stuff leaving the country, maybe you mean consuming more of our own produce. Most of our fish are exported to the EU, and most of the fishing community voted for Brexit. Go figure.
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08/01/2021 10:32:52 888 254
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Going well then? The penny is dropping that Brexit is going to be very disappointing. Not Project Fear anymore. It’s real.
770
08/01/2021 11:03:47 378 81
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Did you by any chance read recent comments by Andrew Bailey (Gov of BofE)? Risible. There is still a sense of English Exceptionalism out there, which brings with it a notion that we have far more cards than we actually do. He & some ministers appear surprised that the EU might be resistant to give us equivalence. I guess they've never heard of Frankfurt, Dublin, Paris etc !!
08/01/2021 11:25:07 33 9
bbc
Re-join (and please let's change to proportional representation so we don't have this ding-dong swing between Con/Lab and we can have calm, competent government like in Germany and Denmark).
08/01/2021 11:29:54 10 46
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If you don't like it then emigrate
08/01/2021 11:34:40 38 9
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I have always said Brexit won't be a disaster - just very disappointing. It won't generate millions of new jobs, make trading with the world easier, create huge investment opportunities. It won't even give us back much sovereignty because we hadn't lost it in the first place. It'll just be drab and people will become disillusioned - and we'll return one day - hopefully on the same terms.
08/01/2021 11:54:00 3 15
bbc
thought we would all be feral animals living on the street by now....?
08/01/2021 12:58:11 11 2
bbc
The penny had dropped for anyone with a brain long before the referendum even took place. Unfortunately a small majority of the population is brainless and voted leave solely because they didn't like to hear people talking foreign in the street.
08/01/2021 13:43:47 3 9
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Vaccines and vaccination will quell Covid hysteria, so don't worry, lucky we left, otherwise all Europe, including us would still be waiting for the EU Vaccine project to licence never mind roll out a vaccine.
08/01/2021 15:46:12 1 8
bbc
And your comment is the most predictable, hackneyed, untrue Remoaner rubbish. Brexit is less than ten days old and already condemned by the BBC gloomsters. However, it is real and is not going away. It will be a great success, so suck it up.
08/01/2021 16:00:28 1 4
bbc
Someone else who is upset he can’t get cheap Percy pig sweets anymore - I feel for you ????
08/01/2021 16:03:46 2 0
bbc
We will only see the truth once the rules are properly known, we should expect teething problems at first, we can only wait and see if things settle down, the government and the Conservative party will have to sort out any mess they have caused, business has supported the Conservatives if they lose that support they are in serious trouble, and any future promises will be considered carefully
08/01/2021 16:23:25 1 3
bbc
NOT SO! IT PROVES THE PEOPLE WHO WANT WILL MAKE IT WORK,,, AND THE LOOSERS WILL MOAN??
08/01/2021 16:16:48 0 2
bbc
It is only January 8th.
08/01/2021 17:16:38 1 2
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Yes I agree . I'm not sure what I'm going to do without Percy the Pig to rot my teeth ...really now I see what Project Fear was all about . Really mate get over yourself will you
08/01/2021 17:22:45 2 0
bbc
Leave.eu
now set up in Waterford ROI so as to be able to keep the .eu address

flag shaggers (an Irish ism)
usually tax exiles, holding way too much influence on a domestic politics they cant commit to
and in this instance
peddling lies for foreign kleptocrats

I do very much hope that somebody in Ireland takes a very dim view on this
08/01/2021 18:21:19 0 2
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It's still project smug tho.
08/01/2021 20:41:07 1 1
bbc
Only for Irish purchasers of German made Percy Pig sweets, though they may be happy enough that thanks to Brexit Britain they are at least getting some vaccinations done now.
08/01/2021 21:08:13 1 1
bbc
You realise your post is about Percy Pigs?
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
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Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
84
08/01/2021 10:32:56 10 3
bbc
You know its overseen by a Tory who is soon to be replaced by another Tory?
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
bbc
Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
85
08/01/2021 10:33:00 9 3
bbc
Your ignorance is a dull beacon of knowledge on this thread.
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08/01/2021 10:26:20 1271 437
bbc
We should have a slow hand clap every Thursday to thank Brexiteers for imposing economic sanctions on ourselves.
86
08/01/2021 10:33:04 486 929
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Go ahead - then we can see and hear the moaners for real!
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08/01/2021 10:40:06 149 58
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Yes, and equally we can see the idiots who got us into this mess as well. It's amazing how few Brexiteers you find these days, where did they all go? All online, hiding behind anonymity.
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Pip
08/01/2021 10:40:14 43 14
bbc
Oh indeed, the vast majority by far now, sadly when it's to late...........?
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R
08/01/2021 10:40:59 118 36
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Moaners....i think its about time you grew up as you sound like a petulant vhichild
- People moaning about our country shooting itself in the foot economically and making ourselves less competitive and more expensive for businesses ...all based on a fantasy
Imagine that!
I'd happily stand there and be called a moaner. Then I'd hear the idiots for real. Removed
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08/01/2021 10:46:23 67 14
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Really? You think it's been going, and is going, well???
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08/01/2021 10:50:14 126 42
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Brexit supporters will never admit they were conned by vote Leave and this corrupt ToryBrexit government. These people are pathetic
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SJ
08/01/2021 10:50:25 51 5
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Pragueimp. That sounds like a threat. Is that what you want, to find out where people whose opinions differ from your live, Darius Guppy style ?
703
08/01/2021 11:01:13 33 8
bbc
You still believe Boris after this,you must be trump fan!!
You can always identify Brexiteers by their knuckles scraping along the floor. Removed
869
08/01/2021 11:06:56 45 10
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On balance I think I can live with being accused a moaner rather than proved an idiot.
08/01/2021 11:10:39 0 14
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No we won't, they just hide behind their keyboards.
08/01/2021 11:26:16 12 1
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What a truly pathetic response

Is that really all you have got
08/01/2021 11:29:31 14 2
bbc
You won. Get over it.
08/01/2021 11:32:50 8 2
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And of course you’re not going to moan when you’re starving to death in the gutter, are you?
08/01/2021 12:07:29 3 0
bbc
realists you mean
08/01/2021 12:10:42 4 0
bbc
And now we can see one of the self-harmers pragueimp
08/01/2021 12:13:41 4 0
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You'll all be squealing soon. Blaming everyone but yourselves.
08/01/2021 12:15:35 7 1
bbc
See me, Hear me - For real - brexit is a rotten idea stuffed into the minds of troglodytes by liars and charlatans - Now we all have to live the consequences but don't ever think we'll forget or forgive. Hope you like your disgusting, rotten fish.
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08/01/2021 10:33:09 84 25
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Whose fault is this 'brexit' mess today conservatives ?
08/01/2021 21:20:32 5 8
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The EU as usual
09/01/2021 22:49:47 0 0
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Don’t forget Mr Corbyn’s luke-warm defence of the benefits of being within the EU as the Referendum campaign debates raged on in 2016.
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08/01/2021 10:33:12 11 9
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Just give it time to settle down it’s not in the uk or Eu’s interest to have it harder than it needs to be. If the UK is having problems moving goods to the EU they must have the same problems getting goods to us.
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08/01/2021 10:34:58 19 6
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And of course "they need us more than we need them" - except they don't!
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08/01/2021 10:39:50 0 1
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Nothing important though. Only things like pharmaceuticals vital to Britain.
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Pip
08/01/2021 10:49:33 0 0
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Methinks clutching straws here............?
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08/01/2021 10:50:55 0 0
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The difference being that around half of our exports go to the EU while less than 10% of collective EU exports come to us.
678
08/01/2021 11:00:06 0 0
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Sure, it'll take a while to bed in & the path will become more smooth in some areas. But these issues cost businesses time & money, something they are not well placed to absorb right now.
08/01/2021 11:25:39 0 0
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The EU have been saying this all along - this is a loose-loose situation
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
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Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:33:18 11 3
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You're sounding very.... ...Trumpist!

The BBC is one of the few sources of verifiable news in this Trumpist swamp.
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ZG
08/01/2021 10:33:21 446 139
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This is really only the start. The sad, slow decline of the former UK will be a direct result on this pointless stupidity that has been foisted upon us.

The sooner we rejoin the better.
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08/01/2021 10:35:22 131 190
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The same UK that just emerged above India as the fifth largest economy, in these troubled times that make Brexit travails look like the sideshow they really are.
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08/01/2021 10:50:33 15 49
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So that we can be told by unelected officials in Brussels how to do everything - including how to vote - no thank you.
08/01/2021 11:16:00 11 26
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Foisted? By a majority vote in a referendum.
they would only have us back by bending us over and giving us a god shafting and making us their bitch forever......... Removed
08/01/2021 16:01:05 1 8
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There is more chance of landing an astronaut on the sun than of the UK rejoining the EU. If you think our country is doomed, emigrate.
08/01/2021 17:31:53 0 4
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You sound like one of those republicans in the US . Just cannot accept democracy. Why dont you move to the EU and then your kids can be called up the the EU army
08/01/2021 17:45:15 0 4
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Not if you remoaners stop moaning and get on with work for a change.
08/01/2021 19:17:35 2 0
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We'll be paying for this folly for 2-3 generations. I wonder where all the motley crew of PRO BREXITEERs that were so vocal in 2016 are now? To borrow a phrase from 'The Donald', they are hiding in their basements and hoping that their lies won't be hung on a sign around their neck for the rest of their natural. BTW, where's Nigel? He always had an answer for everything didn't he?
08/01/2021 22:26:32 0 2
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At least 20 years for another referendum
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08/01/2021 10:33:21 12 17
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In these extraodinary C19 times, I suppose it is a modicum of comfort that the BBC continues to give us a little normalacy by providing, at every opportunity, an HYS on Brexit. Rant away Remainers, let it all out. But, maybe, just maybe, at some point, realise it's all over. Or channel your energies in to campaigning for re-entry. I'm sure the Liberal party will be pleased to hear from you.
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08/01/2021 10:34:54 7 1
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But what did you want to say about the news item?
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08/01/2021 10:35:05 0 1
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Remainers could all move to Scotland and tip the balance for them to rejoin.
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08/01/2021 10:38:30 2 1
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tory deflection - how unusual :)
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08/01/2021 10:40:06 0 1
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There's nothing like using up all of your energy on a lost cause... :-)
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08/01/2021 10:58:14 0 0
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I have my doubts about the nous of someone, who thinks the LibDems are still the 'Liberal Party' (30+ years behind the times).
This thread is about issues arising with the specific deal we have with EU. We've left, so that is the relevant point now. Clearly, you have nothing of value to say about that.
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Hex
08/01/2021 10:28:12 188 148
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I work for a multinational, provided you have your paperwork in order it isn't a problem, if businesses can't even complete an online form then they shouldn't be in business!
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08/01/2021 10:33:23 32 33
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How dare you tell the truth!
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
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Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:33:28 12 3
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Mummy, I don’t like it when the news reports what major companies say is the reality that I created for them.
08/01/2021 12:42:58 0 2
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Oh those poor multimillion pound businesses....how my heart bleeds for them.
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08/01/2021 10:27:29 30 22
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Excellent news.
Another leaving the EU benefit.
More to come.
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08/01/2021 10:33:28 5 11
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So any hiccup is excellent news to a bitter Remainer? No surprise there.
09/01/2021 00:25:28 0 0
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It seems you're too stupid to recognise irony.

At least you're willing to admit it's not all plain sailing and sunny uplands.
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08/01/2021 10:33:32 4 10
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We should not be importing most goods .Lets make it here like we did in the 19th Century and use Brexit to reclaim our former top position in the World..
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08/01/2021 10:37:59 2 1
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Bleargh.
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08/01/2021 10:38:32 0 1
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Oh dear.

Britain long ago ceased to be a major producer of anything. Even what's left of car manufacturing is in foreign hands.

I don't want to return to the 19thC, though it's you Leavers' dream.
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08/01/2021 10:42:32 0 1
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Perhaps inform where these things R going 2 B made/grown. We haven't been sustainable in producing food 4 over 150 yrs. Remember Atlantic convoys in WW2? Also if U want UK 2 become sweat shop like China or find prices explode then home production a good idea. In any case we would still have 2 import raw materials, machines 2 make goods & build factories with imported materials. Don't solve probs.
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08/01/2021 10:49:20 0 0
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Stop living in a fictional past. We didn't 'make it here' in the 19th C. We imported loads from all over the empire. We don't have an empire anymore. We are a net importer for a reason. Our economy is 80% services. We have a greatly reduced manuf base & are unlikely to find it easy to attract the necessary investment to build it up, now we are no longer the gateway to Europe.
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08/01/2021 10:55:04 0 0
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A few more thoughts on your 'proposal':
There is no way we could ever compete with, say, China or India due to respective cost bases.
Becoming self sufficient for goods & produce would require huge tracts of land, huge investment & huge amounts of time.
Many manufacturers, inc arch Brexiteers, have moved out of UK.
We were always able to grow our manufacturing base. Why didn't we?
Soo
08/01/2021 20:31:08 0 0
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Hold on a second. Let me start my time machine...
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08/01/2021 10:28:12 28 12
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Ignorance personified.
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08/01/2021 10:33:33 6 1
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Totally agree......these dimwits would rather their news be in Russia-like form which only tells them what they want to hear. Keep reporting fairly BBC, just like the U.S.A. these brain deads are in the minority.
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08/01/2021 10:30:28 17 29
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The EU can make things as awkward as they like. Anything to deflect from the real issue of the Lisbon Treaty which remainers don't like to discuss.
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08/01/2021 10:33:35 6 2
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The Lisbon Treaty gave MEPs more law making powers and influence. Bojo voted against it.

Not sure what your point is, or what Bojo's was either.
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08/01/2021 10:26:40 38 58
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Brussels Broadcasting Corporation in full swing again. Anything to do with Brexit, initiate a HYS!
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08/01/2021 10:33:42 6 1
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Not unexpected remark.

Not as though it hasn't been reported on all the other media though is it?

If you feel that the BBC should just be in effect a Govt mouthpeice, may I remind you we already have several other papers that do just that, so feel free to read them.

I don't think we are ready for the UK version of Russia Today yet.
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08/01/2021 10:29:37 15 21
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Too many businesses failed to take Brexit seriously and fobbed away from learning of the implications. No point in crying over spilt milk. They had the time to address this
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08/01/2021 10:33:49 6 2
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Too many businesses had no idea what to prepare for up until 2 weeks ago.
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Hex
08/01/2021 10:28:12 188 148
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I work for a multinational, provided you have your paperwork in order it isn't a problem, if businesses can't even complete an online form then they shouldn't be in business!
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08/01/2021 10:33:57 41 23
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My experience too.

Had absolutely no dramas whatsoever and we're not exactly swamped with administrative resources.

Scratching my head with this 'complexed processes' claim as they're pretty straightforward.
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08/01/2021 10:56:11 2 10
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It's all they have to cling onto.