Surge in pupils at school in lockdown sparks call for limit
08/01/2021 | news | education | 1,427
With attendance as high as 50% in some areas, heads call for pupil limits in England's lockdown schools.
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08/01/2021 15:05:52 2 11
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Bonkers
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08/01/2021 15:06:45 39 37
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Its's a good job that shop and supermarket workers and delivery drivers and posties don't have the same attitude as teachers, isn't it ?

Funny how those people continue to go to work (because otherwise they would not get paid), but it's far too dangerous for teachers (and GPs also) to continue to work. But then they get paid regardless. Hmm, funny that.
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08/01/2021 15:13:50 16 10
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It's the very high risk of transmission both amongst pupils, especially secondary age, the therefore the additional risks to the staff. Shop workers don't face the same risks and delivery drivers and posties work most of the time singly. Give vaccinations asap to teachers and they'll be back in school.
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08/01/2021 15:54:53 4 3
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For the hard of understanding here:
it was realised some time ago that schoolchildren were very unlikely to come to harm if they were infected. Teachers, unlike the workers listed above, ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY to 20-30 children in an enclosed space who may not be wearing PPE, and so are at a (slightly) greater risk of being infected. Kids as vectors of Covid needs to be taken more seriously
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08/01/2021 16:38:25 3 0
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My local shops run a queue system to control numbers, one out and one in. Great way to teach that would be.
09/01/2021 17:01:51 1 0
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I work in a primary school and I'm in full-time teaching key-worker children. It would never cross my mind to refuse to go in. Please don't assume what you've read in the papers is true!
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08/01/2021 15:08:40 107 81
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With the risk of getting voted down to kingdom come, I am really fed up with the whinging going on from the unions.

Factory workers, hospital staff, shop workers, warehouse staff and countless others have been going into work for the last 10 months without complaining. Teachers aren't a special case. I don't even think they represent their members when demanding the schools shut for even longer.
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08/01/2021 15:10:03 39 81
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YAWN. YOU are the whinger.
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08/01/2021 15:44:06 29 11
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With the very rare exception, most of those who play an active role in teaching unions have always been a bunch of self-serving neo Trotskyists. They are an embarrassment to genuinely dedicated teachers.
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08/01/2021 15:52:04 22 9
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You clearly didn't get much of an education. In a room with 30x5 year olds no masks etc. Not many jobs (any?) are anything like that. No school in the country has shut, just the building. Teachers have not stopped working and are doing more than normal.
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08/01/2021 15:59:20 12 6
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Perhaps you should read the advice the unions gave the Government in September in order to keep schools open and avoid all this. It was ignored and what they predicted is now happening. Go on look it up, its all online in black and white.
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08/01/2021 16:08:59 9 14
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I fully support those teachers out there in the great work they do, but you are correct, they are not a special case. Supermarket shelf stackers will have more close contact with people than teachers. And what about those workers in the Amazon depot, who will be sending parcels to teachers.
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08/01/2021 16:23:31 13 10
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None of the jobs you have mentioned have to have face to face contact with between 30 and 150 different unmasked individuals every single day whilst they are unable to wear any PPE

Hospital staff all wear
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08/01/2021 16:28:04 8 1
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I fear if the Unions make too much noise the public will ignore individual teachers' concerns. This is getting close. The same Unions destroyed respect for teachers a generation ago, watch out!
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08/01/2021 16:40:42 12 9
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I agree I am a critical worker and I have to go to work l, I don't agree with unions and teachers. Sorry but I have to work right throughout this and so I believe that unions are using thus an excuse end of
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08/01/2021 16:42:23 5 2
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I was a teacher and I agree with you. The teacher union leadership is awful and gives critics of the teaching profession a lot of ammunition.
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08/01/2021 15:08:42 313 84
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Put all teachers on the high priority list for vaccines, after the most vulnerable people.
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08/01/2021 15:11:30 182 38
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The problem is, is that everyone thinks they should be a priority.

But that's not how priorities work - not everyone can be first in the queue.
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08/01/2021 15:13:00 23 40
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agree with your comment . But they should also have their pay stopped if they refuse the jab and also then refuse to work.
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08/01/2021 15:17:48 44 10
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I don't necessary disagree, But surely after the 50+ agree group. But then the same could be said for shop workers, hospitality sector, warehouse workers, security workers, taxi drivers, emergency services, armed forces.

In addition I have not seen any evidence that teachers are more at risk, unlike other sectors like taxi drivers, public transport workers and security
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08/01/2021 15:20:32 35 23
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No. The kids will still spread the Covid, regardless of whether teachers have had the vaccine or not. Shut the schools.
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08/01/2021 15:30:30 33 30
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Teachers should not be a priority for vaccination. If they are considered at risk to infection from their students, then so too are the parents, in fact the whole household. So you then must prioritise them too. Not far off prioritising the entire population. Nonsense idea.
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08/01/2021 15:54:44 11 2
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Vaccinating the teachers isn't really the issue though is it? It's the children that are spreading and taking it home.
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08/01/2021 15:52:59 13 0
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That's one idea but it doesn't address the problem of infected children spreading it to other children who then go home and spread it their household. Less children in school, less risk, less potential households infected.
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08/01/2021 15:57:39 10 1
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Vaccinating teachers wild nothing to stop children spreading covid.
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08/01/2021 16:16:29 1 1
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yeh they should do that but I think we should encourage children not to go to school if they are vulnerable specially the stupid unions
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08/01/2021 16:28:33 12 0
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Everyone in a job is high priority for some reason. What about the sewerage workers, people organising the vaccine, delivery drivers, supermarket workers, electric/gas workers, emergency plumbers, bin collectors, social workers etc etc?
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08/01/2021 16:44:42 6 2
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No it has be allocated on a risk basis. There are few teachers I know of who are 70+ years of age! Most primary school children also have quite young parents, so again not high risk group. Can’ have it all ways. There has to be a pecking order. We may not agree with it but there has to be.
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08/01/2021 16:43:35 6 1
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I work in a SEN school, our classes are full. We work very closely with our children for prolonged periods to support their needs, inc personal care and feeding. The vaccine would be a huge help in keeping our vulnerable children and our staff safe.
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08/01/2021 17:17:16 5 6
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What never ceases to amaze me is the lack of knowledge our teachers have if all the other professions having to cope with working through this, they seem to think all parents can simply work from home, or simply not work if they have kids.
As a collective group, teachers are so far up themselves to see the world outside their own moaning infested bubble, they have lost touch with reality.
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08/01/2021 17:21:55 5 0
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Would that be before supermarket workers? And police officers? If so, why? Schools can operate remotely. Supermarkets and the police can't.
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08/01/2021 17:24:42 0 3
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Completely agree plus al TA's and support staff. It's the obvious thing to do. Sadly our Government dose not appear to think this necessary. Another huge mistake in the making. When will they learn ? It's all reactive knee jerks and u-turns recently. Come on Williamson - get real !!
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08/01/2021 17:27:23 5 0
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The answer is in place, any teachers that are older or are vulnerable will get covered by the current priorities, just as for everyone else.
The only valid exception being health or care sector workers who are most likely to encounter Covid.
A teacher is no different than a shop worker in this regard, in fact they are far safer, so have some respect and stop whingeing about everything.
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08/01/2021 17:32:05 5 0
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The problem is not really the teachers getting it - it's children passing it to each other and increasing the rate in the community - with the older people dying. Better to prioritise the vaccine to the most vulnerable.
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08/01/2021 17:38:15 4 0
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Those teachers that are in the vulnerable groups will get their vaccine, although only the first dose at the moment.
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08/01/2021 17:59:13 3 0
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Ok, so Where in the priority should they come, bearing in mind they simply do not know if any of these vaccines actually prevent you being a carrier and still transmitting it to others ?

Should a fit 25 year old teacher be vaccinated before a 70 year old in a care home, or before staff in hospitals ?
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08/01/2021 18:14:26 3 1
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I am a teacher. Retail workers in large supermarkets should be ahead of us. However supermarkets should be policed properly. Not 2 women walking around a lake.
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08/01/2021 18:17:54 0 0
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I'm quite comfortable with not being high priority - I'm 41, in good health and not in a high risk workplace. Its quite right that those who are more likely to be exposed, or are more likely to get seriously ill if they do contract get first dibs on the vaccine. Once they are immune society will get a lot safer for us all
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08/01/2021 18:24:11 2 0
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They would be bottom of my list. Shop workers have stepped up to the plate and should be top of the list and given huge pay rises.
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08/01/2021 18:44:52 0 1
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they are, theyre on the list after the over 75s.
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08/01/2021 15:08:54 7 12
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Good. Let's try to keep people working!
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08/01/2021 15:09:08 10 9
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Schools are safe, except when they are not and they are not safe, except when they are. Nurseries are safe all the time.
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08/01/2021 15:43:15 2 1
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Except in Brighton. Nurseries aren't safe there, so the council shut them. What puzzles me is how can this inconsistent mess exist when we have top quality, proactive guidance from Government all the time? Oh...
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08/01/2021 15:09:55 21 21
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Article says :"..all staff having to come in and work despite the lockdown."

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Heaven forbid having to actually go to work (unlike millions of others having too).
You don't have a clue. Stop slagging off keyworkers. You wouldn't have the balls to do their job, you saddo. Removed
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08/01/2021 15:10:17 26 32
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Awww diddum's , the poor teachers have got to work for a living..... How pathetic are these people. Get a grip and do the job you are paid to do.
You seem to be sat at home at 3pm on a weekday. Maybe you should start working towards a teaching qualification so you can pull in some of this easy teaching cash?

Or perhaps you're just an ignorant waste of space taking cheap shots at hard-working professionals?
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08/01/2021 16:03:20 2 1
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Yawn. Teachers haven't stopped working for a living.
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08/01/2021 15:10:49 25 28
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Teachers and other school staff have not ben complaining about the full pay they've received during this whole crisis. My business is on its knees, and I'm trying to supervise my kids who are at home now - maybe teachers should consider life in the wider world for a change. All this moaning is bringing the profession into disrepute.
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08/01/2021 15:15:44 12 10
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well put.
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08/01/2021 15:24:36 5 1
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Actual teachers have done very little moaning throughout the pandemic. Unions - yes, actual teachers - no.
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08/01/2021 15:31:45 5 1
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Let be honest...as long as people get their childcare they could give a stuff about school staff. I hope they continue doing the right thing and protect themselves...it others had such a strong union they could do the same...
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08/01/2021 15:42:59 7 1
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Teachers don’t live in a different world - we have families too, while working full time. We have partners affected by job losses. Many have lost additional sources of income that we rely on (duties, weekend classes, exam marking). My partner was made redundant, took a much lower paid job, got furloughed. It’s not easy for anyone - please be less judgemental. All the best with your business.
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08/01/2021 15:39:22 1 1
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A lot of teachers would much rather be teaching in the classroom. As always it's their unions that are working overtime to tarnish their reputations.
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08/01/2021 15:15:01 2 1
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Booooorrrrriiiinnnngggg!!!!!
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08/01/2021 15:11:08 11 11
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If you are going to be pedantic and insist that a work place is classified as completely safe, then the answer you will get is no it is not. No work place meets that criteria, it's a question of manageable risk.

Have a conversation about that, not trying to back the Gov into the answer you really want...

It's unproven whether infections in school mimic or drive community transmission.
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08/01/2021 15:33:43 3 1
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Come get on public transport when kids finish school up in Liverpool. Guarantee about half the kids are mask less after passing the driver. They DO get covid the same as anyone. Less illness but still equal ability to pass it on to those WHO get hit hard
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08/01/2021 15:11:15 120 5
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It should be mentioned that it is essentially impossible for teachers to teach children at home & in school at the same time. In my school (junior) the key worker children (yes, we have about 40% of pupils in school this lockdown) are doing the same remote work as the at-home children, but they do it in school under supervision. Key worker children are not receiving a 'normal' in-school education.
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08/01/2021 15:19:25 66 5
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It is only for childcare in schools.
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08/01/2021 16:35:26 7 2
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In our school, the key worker children are accessing the same learning as the children at home. They are watching the teacher online as well as being taught or supported by HLTAs in the classroom.
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08/01/2021 15:11:28 7 14
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I am a parent with autism, mental health difficulties and chronic illness. My partner works full time 6 days a week. I have to home school as well as provide everything else my child needs. I did for 6 months in the summer from March-Sep whilst her school was closed to us. November was ok as schools were open. Now they are closed again forwho knows how long. Nobody thinks about struggling parents
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08/01/2021 15:20:32 14 4
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Good for you. Just keep doing it and get used to it. It is only your responsibility. No one else’s not the State's either. You chose to have a child.
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08/01/2021 15:20:54 0 2
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Speak to your head teacher about your issues and hopefully......
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08/01/2021 15:19:38 3 2
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would you like to add Covid to your list of ailments? Id we have a proper lockdown for two or three months, like in the spring last year, we can get on top of the virus and back to normality all the sooner.
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08/01/2021 15:27:06 6 0
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I don’t believe people don’t realize how hard it is on parents, but at the end of the day they are your kids & the school isn’t childcare. In my case both myself and my husband work full time & are key workers, we need our kids to be guaranteed a place or they are home alone. That is what it is meant to be used for
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08/01/2021 15:31:05 3 0
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And in a scenario where the schools are kept open the chances are that you send your child to school who then contracts COVID and passes it on to you and your partner. Then you're stuck looking after your child whilst suffering from this illness. It may be a struggle now, but the alternative is worse.
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08/01/2021 17:11:31 0 1
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As a teacher and a parent to a child with autism, I feel for you. It's really hard. No ifs, no buts, no qualifying statements. It's really hard and dangerous in schools but we have to do what we have to do. It's really hard for you at home too and I for one haven't lost sight of that fact. We're all very much on the same side. Good luck with the home schooling, I wish you all the best.
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08/01/2021 15:08:42 313 84
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Put all teachers on the high priority list for vaccines, after the most vulnerable people.
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08/01/2021 15:11:30 182 38
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The problem is, is that everyone thinks they should be a priority.

But that's not how priorities work - not everyone can be first in the queue.
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08/01/2021 15:15:05 43 8
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I didn't say first in the queue. I said after the most vulnerable (elderly, sick, healthcare staff etc).

Additionally, not everyone thinks they should be a priority. I am not in any of these categories, and am happy to wait my turn.
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08/01/2021 16:06:36 17 3
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I am 77 and retired. I can isolate for a few more weeks; being a bit of a loner helps. A middle aged teacher who is still doing face to face teaching probably should get higher priority. If I were in my fifties doing that job then I would be very scared.
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08/01/2021 17:26:22 1 3
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You are not involved in education then ? Another put down for teachers ?
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08/01/2021 17:41:54 0 3
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I expect celebrities will be able to jump the queue !
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08/01/2021 15:08:40 107 81
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With the risk of getting voted down to kingdom come, I am really fed up with the whinging going on from the unions.

Factory workers, hospital staff, shop workers, warehouse staff and countless others have been going into work for the last 10 months without complaining. Teachers aren't a special case. I don't even think they represent their members when demanding the schools shut for even longer.
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08/01/2021 15:10:03 39 81
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YAWN. YOU are the whinger.
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08/01/2021 16:23:18 3 9
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good point I am sick to death of hearing about teachers complaining just put them on vaccinate list end of story
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08/01/2021 15:10:19 36 20
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Williamson should resign.
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08/01/2021 15:38:02 12 1
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He should have been sacked back when the A level and GCSE fiasco occurred!
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08/01/2021 15:12:38 18 7
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Adding limits in kind of absurd. It's likely that its a problem for a few schools in very specific areas with high levels of povety, or even keyworkers.

I know someone who works in a very underprivileged area (at one point record was only 2 parents in a class had a job). She has always believed the school should stay open because she knows they are not going to get a great education at home
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08/01/2021 15:29:06 4 2
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"very specific areas with high levels of poverty, or even keyworkers." - a huge number of key workers are in poverty. NMW with 12 hrs shifts is the norm
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08/01/2021 15:08:42 313 84
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Put all teachers on the high priority list for vaccines, after the most vulnerable people.
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08/01/2021 15:13:00 23 40
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agree with your comment . But they should also have their pay stopped if they refuse the jab and also then refuse to work.
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08/01/2021 15:32:07 24 23
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What a load of tosh - my wife is a teacher and I am in the "at risk" category and need to shield. So she should have her pay stop because she would prefer me not to go into hospital, are you Boris in disguise?
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08/01/2021 15:13:24 25 29
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Teachers should stop moaning all the time. Other people at risk, like supermarket workers, not to mention the police etc, just get on with it.
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08/01/2021 15:21:12 12 6
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You go outside and let some kids breath in your face and lick your cheeks. Then go home and kiss your partner or family.......no? Didn't think so.
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08/01/2021 15:22:21 4 0
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Are teachers moaning? Or is it the Unions who, lets face it, have an anti government agenda - particularly NEU and NASWT.
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08/01/2021 15:22:56 6 1
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Teachers are mostly in school doing their jobs as normal.
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08/01/2021 15:23:38 6 1
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School staff do not have the protective measures that other key workers, such as retail staff, have though. No distancing, face coverings not worn in the classrooms and prolonged contact in a small room with limited ventilation.
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08/01/2021 16:02:42 0 1
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Who are these 'other people' stuck in a single room with 30 people and no PPE, I don't think there are many examples. I can imagine why you don't respect teachers!
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08/01/2021 15:13:27 239 22
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Because it isn't a real lockdown, traffic is still up there as it was before, people still moving around, businesses still functioning. Politicians and the rich and famous flouting the rules and simply people have had enough. Getting on with their lives as best as they can.
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08/01/2021 15:22:33 217 8
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I am in one of the worst areas. I still go to work because I work on my own at this time of year. But there is still a suspicious amount of traffic in the evenings locally. They can;t all be going for a late supermarket shop! In fact I know they aren't, because I go into the supermarket in the evening and it is very quiet. A lot of exceptionalism going on here!
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08/01/2021 15:35:08 32 7
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Yup, my boss asked us to go back to the office yesterday and we are not even remotely close to the key worker category - we make crap for supermarket to sell and obviously they are making a killing during lockdown and it must not be stopped. It is always about the big companies and rich folks, never about the people who actually do the work or the valuables.
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08/01/2021 15:41:24 25 7
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Look on the government website and the list of essential workers is basically everyone not in an office, of course were all going to send our kids to school if they tell us we can. I am sat doing nothing at work due to lack of customers but not allowed to work from home as my job can't be done there so i keep sending the kids in and keep sitting here bored.
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08/01/2021 15:44:58 9 16
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As far as I can see, traffic is a nowhere near as busy as it was this time last year.
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08/01/2021 16:01:03 5 12
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Oh dear, the poor down trodden masses just getting bye with a few mouldy crusts as usual.
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08/01/2021 16:36:42 8 0
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There are some ordinary people flouting the rules as well.
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08/01/2021 17:41:18 3 1
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Yep . Tower Bridge was packed with tourists last Sunday and not a mask or any distancing in sight
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08/01/2021 18:27:22 2 1
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"simple" people they are too, hence why this is now out of hand. Your comment is as reckless as the behaviour of the masses. Getting on with their lives as best they can generally equates to flaunting every sensible guideline. Add in Xmas & New Year mixing too!

Death rates will spiral, NHS will crack, cant wait to hear the "simple" people start crying and blaming the Government. No sympathy.
08/01/2021 20:02:25 0 0
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I agree roads are still bust, I still sit in traffic on my way to work at a school. Many schools are still having all teachers attend to deliver online lessons at school with no students
09/01/2021 09:04:45 0 0
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I agree and I have been amazed at just by how many shops are still open just because they put a basket of bread on a shelf they can sell anything else they like. The reduction in traffic is nothing like it was in the first lockdown, where are all these people going especially in the evenings? Why are the rich and famous still jetting off around the word on luxury holidays how is that possible?
09/01/2021 13:44:46 0 1
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Well said . make proper laws and use proper penalties. and make examples of the celeb idiots.
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09/01/2021 18:40:26 2 0
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We tried it Boris way twice. It failed. Time to move on. The disgusting way the police are violently behaving against peaceful and innocent people is evident.
Lockdown only works when there is enough fear. That fear is fading fast. Just see London again today. Well unless you only use the BBC for news, seems repeated protests in the capital are not really news worthy to them.
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09/01/2021 19:49:15 0 1
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There is the matter that the first lockdown was imposed almost overnight. Business had no time to prepare, meet gov safety regs on this etc. Now, they will have so more can stay open.
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08/01/2021 15:13:49 167 10
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In my school - Lockdown 1, 32 kids in, lockdown 3, 120 kids in!!! Say no more.....
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08/01/2021 15:20:07 44 2
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Similar numbers in my school. We also have TAs in school with the children; all class teachers working from home. (SLT and SEN teachers in school).
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08/01/2021 15:20:20 12 4
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You'll probably find that in lockdown 1 many businesses were shut. But over the months, they've taken steps to become Covid secure and so when it comes to lockdown 2, they're able to stay open and operate.
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08/01/2021 15:37:17 4 0
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It's the weather
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08/01/2021 15:35:39 11 12
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Be happy that 88 less kids are now having the education and mental health screwed up!
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08/01/2021 15:36:17 40 2
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I am classed as a key worker this time around, I wasn’t last lockdown. I work in professional support services for a university. All HE staff can now claim critical worker status. It’s completely ridiculous. I’ve chosen not to send my two children in to school as I can’t in good conscience rely on being a critical worker - I am not! I’d hate to jeopardise the provision for those that really are.
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08/01/2021 16:44:26 8 4
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Parents have realised that if they want a roof over their head they need to go to work. If I had staff not able to work because they couldnt sort childcare & i needed them in to perform an important role to keep the business running, i'd be looking for a new member of staff. Thats the way it is I'm afraid, otherwise the business goes down the pan along with my house & everyone else's jobs
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08/01/2021 15:06:45 39 37
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Its's a good job that shop and supermarket workers and delivery drivers and posties don't have the same attitude as teachers, isn't it ?

Funny how those people continue to go to work (because otherwise they would not get paid), but it's far too dangerous for teachers (and GPs also) to continue to work. But then they get paid regardless. Hmm, funny that.
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08/01/2021 15:13:50 16 10
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It's the very high risk of transmission both amongst pupils, especially secondary age, the therefore the additional risks to the staff. Shop workers don't face the same risks and delivery drivers and posties work most of the time singly. Give vaccinations asap to teachers and they'll be back in school.
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08/01/2021 15:27:09 5 1
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Shop workers must face the same risks, hundreds (if not more) of shoppers from all areas of the community, many of them unmasked or unbothered about guidance all touching various items that staff the have to touch afterwards.
I feel for teachers but many profession have had to work despite their working in environment not being "100% safe". No environment is 100%, there is a global pandemic!
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08/01/2021 15:49:12 5 5
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Well I'm 63, but I wouldn't be in the least worried about teaching full classes without PPE or any masks, and circulating, as any good teacher does, to help those students having difficulty.

But then, as someone who used to rock climb, pothole, and hike for several days by myself through bear infested US National Parks, I guess I'm not one to spend my time quivering in fear about dying.
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08/01/2021 18:33:18 2 1
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That's nonsense - shop workers are in contact with so many varied members of the public - the risk is much higher - school groups or bubbles are made up of the same puplis
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08/01/2021 15:15:01 2 1
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Booooorrrrriiiinnnngggg!!!!!
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08/01/2021 15:15:03 6 12
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They worry about the spread in communities from school. We are in lockdown, there is no community. Kids should be in school.
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08/01/2021 15:19:49 7 3
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The school is the community spreadm this is the whole point. Then it will infect all the families, and elderly relative who use the family as a support bubble.
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Dan
08/01/2021 15:27:50 1 0
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Kid goes to school mixes with ten people, goes home, parent goes to food production factory to work the next day that has 800 staff.
Food factory staff may get the virus and supermarkets will have a shortage of food.
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08/01/2021 15:11:30 182 38
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The problem is, is that everyone thinks they should be a priority.

But that's not how priorities work - not everyone can be first in the queue.
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08/01/2021 15:15:05 43 8
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I didn't say first in the queue. I said after the most vulnerable (elderly, sick, healthcare staff etc).

Additionally, not everyone thinks they should be a priority. I am not in any of these categories, and am happy to wait my turn.
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08/01/2021 15:21:34 19 30
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Well said. I agree teachers should be a high priority. Young folk have done their bit now, in my view, regarding making huge sacrifices for the benefit of others with no voice to protest.
Time to get kids back into school and keep what's left of the economy moving.
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08/01/2021 15:40:23 13 5
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Yes, I think you're right. After the people at highest risk of suffering serious effects have been vaccinated, teachers should be high on the list. As a man in my 40s with no health issues (as far as I know!) like you I am happy to be further down the queue.
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08/01/2021 15:15:19 28 25
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Nice to see the Unions at it again...total disgrace
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08/01/2021 15:22:57 8 12
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Who are you ? Gavin the terwat Williamson ?
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08/01/2021 15:30:54 1 1
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My daughter is taught online all day by teachers but if 50% of her class are in school how do teachers do both. I am classed as a key worker because my company make expresso powder,don't blame unions blame the fools that are running the country
170
08/01/2021 15:37:46 3 1
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Total disgrace that some people do not understand what is really going on
Shut up, sit down, stay in
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08/01/2021 15:56:49 1 1
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And what does the NEU add to the economy? Professional moaners with no useful constructive comments? And as usual with union "leaders" on massive pay packets in a public service environment. Mary Bousted is a hypocritical JOINT leader with annual pay over £200k which is over £50k more than Boris Johnson. Nothing short of disgraceful.
439
08/01/2021 16:27:47 0 1
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unions are are a disgrace they care about children's wellbeing just want teachers to teach less kids
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08/01/2021 15:10:49 25 28
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Teachers and other school staff have not ben complaining about the full pay they've received during this whole crisis. My business is on its knees, and I'm trying to supervise my kids who are at home now - maybe teachers should consider life in the wider world for a change. All this moaning is bringing the profession into disrepute.
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nfn
08/01/2021 15:15:44 12 10
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well put.
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08/01/2021 15:15:58 9 15
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Obvious school should not be open. It is all these exceptions that make a chaos and mess of expectations and the ability to plan lives. All should get the same centrally produced lessons via digital tv channels and on line means. Levelling the situation for everyone. Making any exams and testing easier, fairer. Bad political posturing to appease child dumping parents got this virus loose again.
128
08/01/2021 15:32:58 1 1
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Don't waste your breath...as long as they get their childcare they couldn't give a stuff.
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08/01/2021 15:17:41 47 10
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Seemingly the government deems it unsafe for pupils to attend school and have therefore closed them down. However at the same time it is apparently safe for children of key workers and 'vulnerable' children to be there. How come?
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08/01/2021 15:20:46 76 20
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Schools are pretty safe. It is about allowing key workers to carry on working. The problem lies in the fact that too many people are saying they are key workers when they are not, and are actually working from home but don't want their kids there. Too many just don't 'get it'.
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08/01/2021 15:20:11 10 2
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Because you can't run a health service/supermarket/delivery of goods and food if you need to stay home and look after your children.
It's a balance as all things have to be, but if you completely shut them to all students then many key workers will have no childcare provision at all. What do we do then?
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08/01/2021 15:36:07 2 0
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fewer kids to get infected and pass it on?
426
08/01/2021 16:25:05 3 0
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brilliant point I am sick of it
08/01/2021 19:29:46 0 0
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If you have a full class of 30 children in a room, they cannot be socially distanced from each other or from the teacher. If you have 24 of them learning online from home, while the 6 who are children of critical workers or vulnerable children are the only ones in the classroom, there's plenty of space to spread them out.
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08/01/2021 15:08:42 313 84
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Put all teachers on the high priority list for vaccines, after the most vulnerable people.
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08/01/2021 15:17:48 44 10
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I don't necessary disagree, But surely after the 50+ agree group. But then the same could be said for shop workers, hospitality sector, warehouse workers, security workers, taxi drivers, emergency services, armed forces.

In addition I have not seen any evidence that teachers are more at risk, unlike other sectors like taxi drivers, public transport workers and security
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08/01/2021 15:56:34 19 4
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You obviously aren't a teacher then! No other profession spends 6 hours in a classroom with 30 teenagers not wearing masks, no PPE, no protective screens, little ventilation, no social distancing. And surely teachers should be higher priority simply for the benefit of childrens education? What social benefit would there be to vaccinating taxi drivers before teachers?
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08/01/2021 16:10:59 2 6
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Teachers are the ONLY workers who are denied the use of PPE. (It would upset the children, apparently!) Further, children often forget social distancing and basic hygene. I'd say that increases their risk considerably!

I'd go for a points based system. eg. 1 point per year for age, plus 30 pts for key workers, 20 pts for clinically vunerable, 10 pts for contributing to the economy, etc. etc.
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08/01/2021 16:19:06 4 1
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I caught Covid, possibly in classroom, but even with windows open, mixing with the same group for 55-60mins at a time. Add rest of classes to this so think there is real risk in classrooms. To reach my 'safe' area, had to walk past students on entry and exit. I'll admit to breaching rules inadvertently by handing equipment out to pupils and allowing kids to come to front of class for help.
963
08/01/2021 18:37:11 1 1
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Cases in teachers increased by 333%. I have had two self isolation periods back to back with a four day window, in a KS1 class. The new variant is being quickly transmitted by young children...these self isolation periods cause more disruption to learn than a few consistent weeks where progressive lessons can be delivered online
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08/01/2021 15:16:15 12 13
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Mad how many keyworkers finish work at 3.15.
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08/01/2021 15:33:00 1 2
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Or have had to reduce their hours to fit in with whatever school/childcare they are able to access. As a community carer i have had to reduce my hours from 5 days to 3 days a week as that is a the school will offer me
132
08/01/2021 15:29:46 1 1
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My thoughts entirely ... and the same ones start at 09.05 too!! Weird eh?
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08/01/2021 15:34:46 2 1
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How many teachers finish at 3.15?
I'd put good money on what for you is likely to be a surprising number do 60+ hours per week
3.15 cuppa, perhaps, before another 2-3 hrs marking/prep/meeting parents, then home to do another hour or two
Work weekends too - not so many interruptions from kids and parents then!!
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W 6
08/01/2021 15:18:22 24 27
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The unions once again trying every trick in the book to keep the schools shut, as they have been since March. They have behaved appallingly and continue to let down their pupils. School *is* essential.
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08/01/2021 15:22:31 5 12
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Grow up
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08/01/2021 15:24:25 1 1
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No it is not. Not at all.
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08/01/2021 15:33:38 3 1
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Yes, the unions are decent teachers' very worst enemy. They are really damaging teachers' reputation.

So many teacher's would rather be in the classroom, and would find it much easier than preparing relatively ineffective online lessons.
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08/01/2021 15:18:30 444 60
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It should be pointed out that all teachers are working full time, whether it’s in school teaching the 50% of children coming in or at home on zoom calls with each individual S.E.N.D child that needs that extra help. This nonsense that teachers aren’t working is just that, nonsense. Schools are mostly shut to protect the parents from catching COVID from their children.
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08/01/2021 15:22:46 154 106
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Too many Trump supporters out there that don't understand this, unfortunately!
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08/01/2021 15:31:01 31 100
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"Schools are mostly shut to protect the parents from catching COVID from their children."

But any decent parent (and grandparent) would much rather take the very tiny risk posed by this virus than damage their children's education or mental health.
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08/01/2021 15:45:43 25 72
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Parents of school age children are too young to be at risk. Most of them not even old enough to be in the vaccination groups.
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Gez
08/01/2021 15:48:18 7 68
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Don’t make me laugh.
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08/01/2021 15:51:25 13 89
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Thanks, but I don't want to be protected. I want my child to have a decent education and I'll take my chances with covid.
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08/01/2021 15:54:53 9 33
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You seem very sure that ALL teachers are doing their bit. I think the issue is that this is inconsistent. My experience is of teachers going awol for weeks at a time, sending out some homework (not teaching) and then zero response for weeks with kids chasing them down for answers. But also a positive experience for my younger kids. Onus lands on parents to juggle work and schooling.
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08/01/2021 15:58:37 21 2
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and as the science points out spreading it to the wider community.
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08/01/2021 16:09:12 12 39
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"all teachers are working full time"? total tripe, to the person who wrote this, stop the propaganda, you forget that many of use know teachers as friends, relatives and spouses! lets try some truth ok!
470
08/01/2021 16:18:36 1 11
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Well, it’s the first they have worked in many years them based on your findings
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08/01/2021 16:54:05 2 12
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My assumption was that school closures were to protect the teachers and reduce overall levels in the wider community. If it's to protect parents I really don't see the point. They are at an age where the risk low, and it is highly unlikely that the vaccination programme will get to them before the new variant does anyway. If it's really to protect parents, then maybe give parents the choice?
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08/01/2021 17:55:55 4 2
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What schools offer that service? My child who attends a special school has received a total number of zero calls in lockdown nor do I know of any children in any setting that have. The school is great as are the teachers but SEND kids are definitely at the back of the queue behind any and all covid related matters which is a national tragedy.
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08/01/2021 18:03:08 4 1
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Don’t forget the TAs who are being pushed out into the classroom whilst teachers run ‘remote learning’ from the relative safety of their classrooms or at home!
Absolute rubbish and anyone that knows an honest teacher knows that not all of them are working. During the last lock down it was three weeks on three weeks off. We are not stupid and some of us know teachers so please shut it. Removed
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den
08/01/2021 18:22:15 2 6
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Not true, I know teachers pre recording lessons dreadfully and asking pupils to view anytime. No interaction, no confirmation of understanding, poor quality, boring rubbish.
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08/01/2021 15:17:47 117 30
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Unless the schools are shut, the virus will just spread willy nilly. May as well open the pubs and restaurants again if schools are staying open!
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08/01/2021 15:23:25 72 7
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Only if you are a key drinker or key eater!
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08/01/2021 15:24:13 3 8
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Yes but in this basis all workplaces should be closed because that's where the main spread is not schools.
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nfn
08/01/2021 15:24:35 9 15
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everything should be open. The lockdown strategy has been tried . the tier system has been tried and look where we are. Rising rates of infection. This is a virus it spreads and kills some people, FACT. we will have to learn to live with it and get on with life.
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08/01/2021 15:28:42 14 4
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Funny how, even though I'm 63 and single, I find myself caring far more about kids' education and mental health than worrying about covid-19.
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08/01/2021 15:45:07 4 4
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Schools being open didnt increase the spread by that much- especially Primary schools. In Scotland only about 20% of schools had cases.
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meh
08/01/2021 17:08:20 3 1
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Fine if you want to go down the route of closing schools completely. However one thing that should not happen if that's the case.

Zero tax money should be spent to give kids a free laptop and internet!
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08/01/2021 18:40:17 0 2
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Unless you stay home instead of taking a look around to see who else is out and about. You are not a special case. Stay home.
09/01/2021 15:53:11 0 0
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You can’t completely shut the schools or nurseries. Our front line staff NEED them opened. Otherwise our struggling NHS will be further crippled with staff needing time to take care of their kids. Unless we are suggesting take your kids to work days.
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08/01/2021 15:19:16 190 24
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Look this is nuts. Either schools are closed or they are not. 50% attendance? Well it's not a lockdown is it. And really the roads were full of people going to work today, and surely offices with umpteen people in them are far more risky than a school classroom. This is just firefighting at its worst. Lockdown? Never.
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08/01/2021 15:24:07 120 19
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No on the whole offices and more so shops are far safer than schools who lock in the same herd all day to mix and spread diseases to each other. Stirring vigorously by room changes. School is practically designed for spreading disease, and nits.
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08/01/2021 15:30:42 20 4
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Just like Lockdown 2 (which wasn't - certainly not in our area), this just stopped being a lockdown too.

This has to stop. 'Fluffy' lockdowns just continue to hurt workers and businesses but won't make any fundamental difference to infection rates. 2 month complete lockdown or 6 months+ of this? I know which I'd choose.
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08/01/2021 15:47:01 11 19
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The fallacy of this argument is the naive belief that a "proper full lock-down" would stop the spread of the virus. No, it will not. You cannot stop it spreading anymore than you can stop the tides.
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08/01/2021 15:47:19 14 3
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Offices are not more risky than a classroom and if I have to explain that to you then you really shouldn’t be commenting at all.
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08/01/2021 16:36:11 6 3
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Do you know anyone going to work in an office now? I don't. I guess there might be some like cashiers in garages but basically all office work is done at home.
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08/01/2021 16:57:11 3 2
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Absolutely right. I mean turf those kids of key workers, SEN, vulnerable and those with income unable to access devices/internet out
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08/01/2021 18:06:14 2 1
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Dougal your are clearly an old duffer with no grasp on reality. You couldn't be more wrong. All those kids mixing ignoring everything and then going home to silently kill their grandparents. But hey what do you care.
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08/01/2021 18:06:38 2 0
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There are lots of people being told to go into office to do work that can't be done at home but is hardly essential. For example printing out newsletters, posters, flyers etc and posting them out. All non essential work that could and should now be done in an email instead.
09/01/2021 09:08:16 0 1
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This lockdown is nothing like the first one, plenty of people going about their normal business, people off on holidays, more children at school and the countyside even busier despite the cold. This government has lost control of the virus and the people.
09/01/2021 12:55:24 1 0
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No office has the same number of people in as confined a space as a classroom. Don't be ridiculous. Office staff should be working from home anyway. That advice hasn't changed.
09/01/2021 19:20:45 0 0
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By Monday when Pre school reopens, as per government guidance, we will have 112 out of 190 pupils in. Only had 25 Key worker children in last lockdown. Parents gathering together to pick them up.
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08/01/2021 15:11:15 120 5
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It should be mentioned that it is essentially impossible for teachers to teach children at home & in school at the same time. In my school (junior) the key worker children (yes, we have about 40% of pupils in school this lockdown) are doing the same remote work as the at-home children, but they do it in school under supervision. Key worker children are not receiving a 'normal' in-school education.
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08/01/2021 15:19:25 66 5
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It is only for childcare in schools.
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08/01/2021 15:45:42 18 7
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The quality of the remote learning is outstanding and teachers are spending every waking moment preparing and delivering it. I'm just saying that the scramble to send children into school does not mean they're going to get a teaching advantage, but they may get a social one.
08/01/2021 23:33:03 5 2
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I teach all my class of 34 the same, at home or at school. 4 hours of live lessons daily, which are recorded for those who can't access them in real time. I set work for each lesson which is marked and assessed with chat access to me until 4.30pm. This is standard in our school for children aged 4 - 11. It is not just child care, it is the best education we can possibly provide at the moment.
09/01/2021 15:56:04 2 0
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Not at my school. I'm a TA and in full-time teaching a key-worker class of approx 10 Y5/6 children. We are following as near to normal a time-table as usual.
(1st full lockdown we were only running school as something like a holiday club until June when some classes returned and we switched to more learning. This time is very different!)
09/01/2021 16:35:40 0 0
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Not actually, the senior years will be assessed in the summer on what they do now
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08/01/2021 15:15:03 6 12
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They worry about the spread in communities from school. We are in lockdown, there is no community. Kids should be in school.
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08/01/2021 15:19:49 7 3
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The school is the community spreadm this is the whole point. Then it will infect all the families, and elderly relative who use the family as a support bubble.
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08/01/2021 15:13:49 167 10
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In my school - Lockdown 1, 32 kids in, lockdown 3, 120 kids in!!! Say no more.....
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08/01/2021 15:20:07 44 2
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Similar numbers in my school. We also have TAs in school with the children; all class teachers working from home. (SLT and SEN teachers in school).
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08/01/2021 15:51:11 26 3
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TAs get treated badly and paid very little.Disgraceful they should be in as some are much older than teachers and at risk.
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08/01/2021 16:22:20 15 0
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So your teachers are seen as more valuable and your TAs can mix with children and covid? Glad I don't work at your school.
09/01/2021 15:53:46 1 0
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Ditto here, I'm a TA and I'm teaching a class of Y5/6 key-worker children with approx 10 in each day (I don't get paid to teach, TAs get 1/2 what teachers get, but I do it because it needs to be done right now).
Teachers meanwhile are working full-time teaching those children at home via video and online work (which they can interact with/mark etc). Teachers are only in school on a rota basis.
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08/01/2021 15:20:17 10 13
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Maybe as young kids are barely touched by the current cv19 illness - or thier parents if they are under 50, its not a big risk and they are smart enough once they are home not to send them round to granny in her 80's.

It would be good to see parents behaving with a bit of responsibilty to the world and stop moaning about how the govt spoiled thier summer holidays etc etc etc
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08/01/2021 15:28:40 1 0
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Agree, to a point, but it's not that simple.

Infected child infects parent/s who in turn pass it on to friends and colleagues, more likely if there are no symptoms of the infection

Under 11s being collected from school sees people congregating, and not observing social distancing etc.

If we had a true lockdown it might work, but currently, no chance...
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08/01/2021 16:56:15 0 1
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Yeah, right. Increase the numbers being sick and absent from work.
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08/01/2021 15:13:49 167 10
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In my school - Lockdown 1, 32 kids in, lockdown 3, 120 kids in!!! Say no more.....
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08/01/2021 15:20:20 12 4
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You'll probably find that in lockdown 1 many businesses were shut. But over the months, they've taken steps to become Covid secure and so when it comes to lockdown 2, they're able to stay open and operate.
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08/01/2021 15:11:28 7 14
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I am a parent with autism, mental health difficulties and chronic illness. My partner works full time 6 days a week. I have to home school as well as provide everything else my child needs. I did for 6 months in the summer from March-Sep whilst her school was closed to us. November was ok as schools were open. Now they are closed again forwho knows how long. Nobody thinks about struggling parents
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08/01/2021 15:20:32 14 4
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Good for you. Just keep doing it and get used to it. It is only your responsibility. No one else’s not the State's either. You chose to have a child.
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08/01/2021 15:28:39 0 4
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Your parents must have made the same choice. (doesn't sound like they were married).
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nfn
08/01/2021 15:10:17 26 32
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Awww diddum's , the poor teachers have got to work for a living..... How pathetic are these people. Get a grip and do the job you are paid to do.
You seem to be sat at home at 3pm on a weekday. Maybe you should start working towards a teaching qualification so you can pull in some of this easy teaching cash?

Or perhaps you're just an ignorant waste of space taking cheap shots at hard-working professionals?
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nfn
08/01/2021 15:38:31 1 0
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had my comment removed for replying to this offensive post. no offensive language was used just stated facts. thanks bbc for being your usual fair self...NOT.
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08/01/2021 15:17:41 47 10
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Seemingly the government deems it unsafe for pupils to attend school and have therefore closed them down. However at the same time it is apparently safe for children of key workers and 'vulnerable' children to be there. How come?
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08/01/2021 15:20:46 76 20
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Schools are pretty safe. It is about allowing key workers to carry on working. The problem lies in the fact that too many people are saying they are key workers when they are not, and are actually working from home but don't want their kids there. Too many just don't 'get it'.
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08/01/2021 15:57:31 8 6
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Schools are not pretty safe, this is the point! Children show no symptoms but carry the virus unknowingly. Other countries have recognised upto 30% of transmissions are from children (mainly teens). UK have not proactively tested school children until late October when suddenly by the start of December most schools had growing bubbles sent home for quarantine
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08/01/2021 17:44:33 3 1
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Exactly. My husband works full time, I am a FT student (who has paid £9000!) and we cannot send our 2 primary age children to school. Yet have friends where only one parent is working in a key worker role part time and their children can go to school every day. I'm now doing 2 full time jobs. Final year degree plus homeschooling. UNFAIR ON THE CHILDREN AT HOME!
08/01/2021 22:37:31 0 1
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Then why are so many pupils testing positive and so many 'bubbles being shut down. What about schools being 'safe places' for adult teaching staff and their families?
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08/01/2021 15:20:50 88 14
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The problem is not whether the teachers get the virus but that children/students all mix spread it amongst themselves and then take it home to their families (including key worker parents).
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08/01/2021 15:26:05 91 10
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Actually I'd say the problem is both of these things. School staff should not be put at unnecessary risk, just like the students.
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08/01/2021 15:40:18 15 1
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Hospital staff get ppe. Doctors refuse to even check your throat anymore. Teachers don't get any of that sort of protection.
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08/01/2021 15:42:03 2 15
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The age of most adults with school age children are not at significant risk from COVID.
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08/01/2021 16:20:12 2 6
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what makes me really angry is that the key workers still have their jobs and their child's education and others don't have this as there is a big category who have no support from government so far if key workers didn't have an income and their children were not education there would be more complaints about lockdown from NHS
09/01/2021 15:59:28 0 0
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A teacher at my school caught the virus in the run-up to Christmas. She tested positive in the holiday and is now quite ill and showing no signs of improvement. Whether she caught Covid in school we can't know, but the class itself did have at least 1 case last term and several instances of self-isolating children.
Teachers are at risk at picking up the virus from close contact with children.
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08/01/2021 15:11:28 7 14
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I am a parent with autism, mental health difficulties and chronic illness. My partner works full time 6 days a week. I have to home school as well as provide everything else my child needs. I did for 6 months in the summer from March-Sep whilst her school was closed to us. November was ok as schools were open. Now they are closed again forwho knows how long. Nobody thinks about struggling parents
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08/01/2021 15:20:54 0 2
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Speak to your head teacher about your issues and hopefully......
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08/01/2021 15:21:05 75 18
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Easiest is way to limit it is to say both parents need to be key workers (unless of course it is a single parent & child has no contact with other parent). That will reduce the numbers straight away. The second parent who is not a key worker should not be working anyway, & if they are have the right to ask for furlough
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08/01/2021 15:25:19 9 31
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It is limited to what are now being called 'critical workers'. However, some Head teachers are happy to infect the community they serve and bend the rules.
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08/01/2021 15:25:33 2 0
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That is already the case in London...
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08/01/2021 15:30:52 3 1
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My daughter's secondary school has said exactly this - both parents must be key workers. She is one of just pupils in her year still attending school. My other children's primary school has offered me just 3 days a week, each of my children is in a bubble of just 7 or 8 children the days they go.
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Ch
08/01/2021 15:53:06 16 1
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You don't have a "right" to be on furlough. Furlough is a scheme to prevent someone being made redundant if the demand for their job is not there. If the company I worked for closed like it did in the first lockdown, it would go bust - and to be furloughed you need to have an employer to furlough you. So unfortunately some of us have no choice but to go out to work.
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08/01/2021 15:56:43 8 1
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You cannot be on furlough if there is work you could be doing. "Key" worker is nothing to do with furlough.
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08/01/2021 16:25:29 7 0
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That's common sense, but unfortunately the government seem to be rather lacking in that regard.

The head at my wife's school has been asking the kids if either mummy or daddy is working from home and it's surprising the number that are. But all she can do is send an email to the parents and hoping they have a concience.
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08/01/2021 16:56:26 10 0
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are you saying you should not be working if you are not a key worker? You clearly do not read the guidance. The guidance is work from home if you can.If you cant reasonably, go to work. There is no definition of what the work is, so you could be making irrelevant tat in a factory, it doesnt matter. The business cant just shut so if you want a job/roof over your head, you go to work
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08/01/2021 17:01:42 2 3
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Trouble is offices are open along with a whole range of businesses that are not non essential retail or service and there are a lot of employers that are refusing to partake in the furlough scheme.
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Nic
08/01/2021 17:01:48 3 1
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Not an option, my company will not furlough me. I am the main breadwinner at home and I pay the bills.My wife is a key worker. Quite simply, if this happens, she will be forced to stop work, not me. So NHS loses a key worker.
09/01/2021 09:07:30 1 1
bbc
This is the main problem. Local primary school in the first lockdown: 20 kids at school, now: 180. The school is struggling as they have 5 Year 5/6 teachers, 4 teaching in school, leaving 1 teacher for 100 kids at home. Crazy! Most local families have 1 keyworker (usually working at home) & 1 parent at home, working or not & they can send their kids to school. Selfish & ridiculous in a pandemic.
09/01/2021 16:01:24 0 0
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A lot of people think that asking/requesting for furlough will go against them. Some employers are not flexible and at a time where demand for any role out weights supply. I think ppl are worried about keeping said job. This situation has shown just how privileged some of us are. In regards to our jobs and the flexibility we receive.
09/01/2021 16:39:58 0 0
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If this was a proper lockdown they would be furloughed already...it isn't, its the usual Boris nonsense and a mess
09/01/2021 20:24:05 0 0
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This would be acceptable if 2nd parent could be furloughed. But instead they only have unpaid leave.
19
08/01/2021 15:13:24 25 29
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Teachers should stop moaning all the time. Other people at risk, like supermarket workers, not to mention the police etc, just get on with it.
47
08/01/2021 15:21:12 12 6
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You go outside and let some kids breath in your face and lick your cheeks. Then go home and kiss your partner or family.......no? Didn't think so.
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08/01/2021 15:15:05 43 8
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I didn't say first in the queue. I said after the most vulnerable (elderly, sick, healthcare staff etc).

Additionally, not everyone thinks they should be a priority. I am not in any of these categories, and am happy to wait my turn.
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08/01/2021 15:21:34 19 30
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Well said. I agree teachers should be a high priority. Young folk have done their bit now, in my view, regarding making huge sacrifices for the benefit of others with no voice to protest.
Time to get kids back into school and keep what's left of the economy moving.
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08/01/2021 15:21:47 1 5
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I was covering a shielding teacher on Monday. Lockdown means all sources of income as a supply teacher has vanished because schools are using their own staff. Is it not prudent to use us to reduce class sizes.
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08/01/2021 15:09:55 21 21
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Article says :"..all staff having to come in and work despite the lockdown."

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Heaven forbid having to actually go to work (unlike millions of others having too).
You don't have a clue. Stop slagging off keyworkers. You wouldn't have the balls to do their job, you saddo. Removed
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08/01/2021 15:13:24 25 29
bbc
Teachers should stop moaning all the time. Other people at risk, like supermarket workers, not to mention the police etc, just get on with it.
51
08/01/2021 15:22:21 4 0
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Are teachers moaning? Or is it the Unions who, lets face it, have an anti government agenda - particularly NEU and NASWT.
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W 6
08/01/2021 15:18:22 24 27
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The unions once again trying every trick in the book to keep the schools shut, as they have been since March. They have behaved appallingly and continue to let down their pupils. School *is* essential.
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08/01/2021 15:22:31 5 12
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Grow up
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wig
08/01/2021 15:22:42 4 12
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I sometimes feel I’m the only one indoors

Everyone’s down the pub laughing at me

Guess I shouldn’t have watched The Truman show last week

Sort it out U.K. we are the worst country in the World
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08/01/2021 15:24:43 9 0
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Pubs are shut.
70
08/01/2021 15:24:46 1 1
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3rd worst, you forgot USA and Iran!
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08/01/2021 15:31:30 3 3
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It's utternonsense that schools spread the virus. They don't. Even if the children are carrying it, most parents and teachers are aged round 25-40 at the most. And that is in the group less likely to develop symptoms and highly unlikely to die from it. The reason infections are high is spread via adults in crowded offices but MOSTLY because it's winter where it thrives at 4 degrees and under
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08/01/2021 15:18:30 444 60
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It should be pointed out that all teachers are working full time, whether it’s in school teaching the 50% of children coming in or at home on zoom calls with each individual S.E.N.D child that needs that extra help. This nonsense that teachers aren’t working is just that, nonsense. Schools are mostly shut to protect the parents from catching COVID from their children.
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08/01/2021 15:22:46 154 106
bbc
Too many Trump supporters out there that don't understand this, unfortunately!
243
08/01/2021 15:48:27 42 6
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What's he got to do with anything?
270
08/01/2021 15:54:09 36 6
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Instead of name calling you should try forming an arguement, you'll feel better for it and fewer people will consider you a muppet :)
306
08/01/2021 15:59:03 5 5
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No too many people on here know it's nonsense!
482
08/01/2021 16:35:59 4 8
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What has Trump got to do with it? You forgot mention Brexit.
719
08/01/2021 17:38:40 2 9
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More like too many Labour supporters out there backing a left wing Union and it's left wing members.
832
08/01/2021 18:17:47 2 1
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flying lizard: What has Trump got to do with this? This is the UK and NOT the USA, and Trump is currently being ousted from his position, and therefore is history.
What does that imbecile have to do with anything? Questioning government policy has nothing to do with that drooling idiot. Grow up Removed
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08/01/2021 15:13:24 25 29
bbc
Teachers should stop moaning all the time. Other people at risk, like supermarket workers, not to mention the police etc, just get on with it.
55
08/01/2021 15:22:56 6 1
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Teachers are mostly in school doing their jobs as normal.
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08/01/2021 15:15:19 28 25
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Nice to see the Unions at it again...total disgrace
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08/01/2021 15:22:57 8 12
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Who are you ? Gavin the terwat Williamson ?
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08/01/2021 15:17:47 117 30
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Unless the schools are shut, the virus will just spread willy nilly. May as well open the pubs and restaurants again if schools are staying open!
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08/01/2021 15:23:25 72 7
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Only if you are a key drinker or key eater!
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08/01/2021 15:13:24 25 29
bbc
Teachers should stop moaning all the time. Other people at risk, like supermarket workers, not to mention the police etc, just get on with it.
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08/01/2021 15:23:38 6 1
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School staff do not have the protective measures that other key workers, such as retail staff, have though. No distancing, face coverings not worn in the classrooms and prolonged contact in a small room with limited ventilation.
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08/01/2021 15:19:36 126 20
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People commenting here seem to miss the point that teachers STILL WORK when the school is shut to most pupils-they're teaching online! Schools are clearly a place where the virus spreads. Still having most of the kids come in DEFEATS THE POINT! Children who don't have access to online resources need to be helped so they don't miss out-attacking teachers for highlighting this is missing the point
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mc
08/01/2021 15:26:44 11 51
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i think not
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08/01/2021 15:41:35 21 4
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I'm glad the BBC has let one good comment go through in respect and support of teachers. The majority of comments on this thread have been utterly appalling and the BBC are encouraging them. Most of these comments being so outrageously disrespectful of teachers should have been banned. I expect this will be censored.
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08/01/2021 15:11:28 7 14
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I am a parent with autism, mental health difficulties and chronic illness. My partner works full time 6 days a week. I have to home school as well as provide everything else my child needs. I did for 6 months in the summer from March-Sep whilst her school was closed to us. November was ok as schools were open. Now they are closed again forwho knows how long. Nobody thinks about struggling parents
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08/01/2021 15:19:38 3 2
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would you like to add Covid to your list of ailments? Id we have a proper lockdown for two or three months, like in the spring last year, we can get on top of the virus and back to normality all the sooner.
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08/01/2021 15:17:41 47 10
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Seemingly the government deems it unsafe for pupils to attend school and have therefore closed them down. However at the same time it is apparently safe for children of key workers and 'vulnerable' children to be there. How come?
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08/01/2021 15:20:11 10 2
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Because you can't run a health service/supermarket/delivery of goods and food if you need to stay home and look after your children.
It's a balance as all things have to be, but if you completely shut them to all students then many key workers will have no childcare provision at all. What do we do then?
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08/01/2021 15:08:42 313 84
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Put all teachers on the high priority list for vaccines, after the most vulnerable people.
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08/01/2021 15:20:32 35 23
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No. The kids will still spread the Covid, regardless of whether teachers have had the vaccine or not. Shut the schools.
73
08/01/2021 15:25:21 8 7
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Forever?
893
08/01/2021 18:36:38 0 0
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Perhaps YOU should work from home instead of considering yourself as a special case and OK to bend the rules to suit YOU. The problem is multiple instances of YOU who thinks its OK to criticise others being out and about when they dont need to be yet you are out and about when you dont need to be. You are NOT special.
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08/01/2021 15:24:03 14 18
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If the union ruled teachers could actually get on with providing online lessons then things would be easier
I don’t see supermarket workers trying to shut the shops?
Unions are the bane of the life in the country
Lazy incompetent people hiding behind the good ones, too few prepared to work to actually teach, either online or in person
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08/01/2021 15:26:46 7 1
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Few other jobs have a union strong enough to actually protect its members. I feel sorry for shop workers and the like...thrown to the wolves
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CJ
08/01/2021 15:27:59 5 1
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supermarket workers are allowed to wear masks and other PPE. This is banned in classrooms (masks are only allowed in corridors). How do you socially distance in a class of 30 students? You can't even keep them a metre apart as they have to share desks to fit in the room. In a supermarket you brush past someone for 30 seconds, in a classroom you are with them for 50 minutes at a time!
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08/01/2021 15:29:02 0 1
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I despair of the BBC giving a voice to the uninformed ramblings of others, but that is the price of a functioning democracy. Long may it last!!!
they are providing online lessons, also doing live zoom sessions, running school for the vulnerable (and every tom, dick and harry who is a key worker / EU transition worker now), setting up covid testing facilities, phoning up children at home to check up on them .... oh and teaching and looking after their own children too. Pr**k Removed
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08/01/2021 15:37:42 3 1
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Many teachers are spending all day teaching and most evenings preparing lessons and work. There will no doubt be a small percentage who have the wrong attitude too. But try not to tar everyone with the same brush.
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08/01/2021 15:19:16 190 24
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Look this is nuts. Either schools are closed or they are not. 50% attendance? Well it's not a lockdown is it. And really the roads were full of people going to work today, and surely offices with umpteen people in them are far more risky than a school classroom. This is just firefighting at its worst. Lockdown? Never.
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08/01/2021 15:24:07 120 19
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No on the whole offices and more so shops are far safer than schools who lock in the same herd all day to mix and spread diseases to each other. Stirring vigorously by room changes. School is practically designed for spreading disease, and nits.
248
08/01/2021 15:49:30 2 4
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Missing the point I think
267
08/01/2021 15:53:48 5 9
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Have you ever worked in a busy office?
339
08/01/2021 16:06:36 9 3
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Just one point. Kids aren't moving classrooms. The teachers are moving instead. Arrivals and departures are also staggered. Schools are doing their best despite the idiot politicians.
382
08/01/2021 16:17:01 1 1
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why have you got them nits
472
08/01/2021 16:20:11 5 5
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Then please explain to us all why it is that teachers are not dropping like flies?
731
08/01/2021 17:41:51 2 0
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There is much transmission in supermarkets but they can’t close!
941
08/01/2021 18:48:35 0 2
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Shops are not the safest places to be
Shops are hotbed of utter filth

The safest places outside your home was the pub, u sat at a table ordered via an app, if u left ur table u put ur muzzle on
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08/01/2021 15:17:47 117 30
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Unless the schools are shut, the virus will just spread willy nilly. May as well open the pubs and restaurants again if schools are staying open!
65
08/01/2021 15:24:13 3 8
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Yes but in this basis all workplaces should be closed because that's where the main spread is not schools.
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W 6
08/01/2021 15:18:22 24 27
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The unions once again trying every trick in the book to keep the schools shut, as they have been since March. They have behaved appallingly and continue to let down their pupils. School *is* essential.
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08/01/2021 15:24:25 1 1
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No it is not. Not at all.
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08/01/2021 15:17:47 117 30
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Unless the schools are shut, the virus will just spread willy nilly. May as well open the pubs and restaurants again if schools are staying open!
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nfn
08/01/2021 15:24:35 9 15
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everything should be open. The lockdown strategy has been tried . the tier system has been tried and look where we are. Rising rates of infection. This is a virus it spreads and kills some people, FACT. we will have to learn to live with it and get on with life.
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08/01/2021 15:10:49 25 28
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Teachers and other school staff have not ben complaining about the full pay they've received during this whole crisis. My business is on its knees, and I'm trying to supervise my kids who are at home now - maybe teachers should consider life in the wider world for a change. All this moaning is bringing the profession into disrepute.
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08/01/2021 15:24:36 5 1
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Actual teachers have done very little moaning throughout the pandemic. Unions - yes, actual teachers - no.
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wig
08/01/2021 15:22:42 4 12
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I sometimes feel I’m the only one indoors

Everyone’s down the pub laughing at me

Guess I shouldn’t have watched The Truman show last week

Sort it out U.K. we are the worst country in the World
69
08/01/2021 15:24:43 9 0
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Pubs are shut.
95
08/01/2021 15:29:05 0 2
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They're about the only places that are!
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wig
08/01/2021 15:22:42 4 12
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I sometimes feel I’m the only one indoors

Everyone’s down the pub laughing at me

Guess I shouldn’t have watched The Truman show last week

Sort it out U.K. we are the worst country in the World
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08/01/2021 15:24:46 1 1
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3rd worst, you forgot USA and Iran!
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Lee
08/01/2021 15:25:00 105 10
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It’s not a lockdown I say it everyday people are out and about ALL DAY everyday and the traffic is horrendous!!!
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mc
08/01/2021 15:26:17 33 108
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it is a free country
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08/01/2021 15:35:40 7 8
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There are a quite a few excuses in law for people being out of their homes. Including going to and from work if they can’t work from home, which is a large proportion of workers, a daily walk, run, cycle for exercise, essential shopping, which again could easily be once or twice a day
And several more
Therefore it’s not surprising if people are out and about.
387
08/01/2021 16:18:05 5 8
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what we should lock everyone up in their houses next this is ridicoulous
557
08/01/2021 16:51:02 5 4
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How do you know? Not out and about are we? Its simply people trying to earn a living & keep the wolf from the door, a roof over their head and food on the table. We face economic armaggeddon otherwise
755
08/01/2021 17:49:12 0 2
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that’s why we pay road tax for to use them daily not to sit on my drive
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08/01/2021 15:21:05 75 18
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Easiest is way to limit it is to say both parents need to be key workers (unless of course it is a single parent & child has no contact with other parent). That will reduce the numbers straight away. The second parent who is not a key worker should not be working anyway, & if they are have the right to ask for furlough
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08/01/2021 15:25:19 9 31
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It is limited to what are now being called 'critical workers'. However, some Head teachers are happy to infect the community they serve and bend the rules.
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08/01/2021 16:24:23 7 7
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so it is ok for critical workers children to have education and not others that is unfair the others child's life chances will be ruined
08/01/2021 19:49:04 3 0
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Jennifer- "& if they are have the right to ask for furlough"

No one has the "right to ask for furlough", its not a "free" holiday payment, it is a a scheme to stop industry and workers being devestated with job losses.

And remember WE ALL are going to have to pay for it, public debt has already risen to the highest level since 1962 and his heading for 1945 levels alarmingly quickly now.
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08/01/2021 15:20:32 35 23
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No. The kids will still spread the Covid, regardless of whether teachers have had the vaccine or not. Shut the schools.
73
08/01/2021 15:25:21 8 7
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Forever?
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08/01/2021 15:30:24 17 14
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As long as it takes until no one ever dies ever again, apparently.
133
08/01/2021 15:30:02 8 11
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State schools are generally so poor anyway, due to being used as a political football, that it probably wouldn't make much difference if they did close forever! Whole education system needs a major overhaul.
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08/01/2021 15:21:05 75 18
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Easiest is way to limit it is to say both parents need to be key workers (unless of course it is a single parent & child has no contact with other parent). That will reduce the numbers straight away. The second parent who is not a key worker should not be working anyway, & if they are have the right to ask for furlough
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08/01/2021 15:25:33 2 0
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That is already the case in London...
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08/01/2021 15:25:41 67 6
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I know numerous kids who are at school, but their parents are not key workers
Basically the kids are so bored with continuous tiers and lockdowns, they want to go to school to get some normality in their life
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08/01/2021 15:40:18 95 17
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Just give schools the authority to say no to any other than very high priority kids.

Parents need to take responsibility rather than dumping their offspring on the school as a default behaviour.
404
08/01/2021 16:21:19 2 2
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excellent point if they sit at home they just argue amongst brothers and sisters and complain about how bored they are
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08/01/2021 15:26:05 7 5
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Schools being shut is a massive pain for everyone and unquestionably bad for the children - why don’t we jab all the teachers ASAP - in the cosmic scheme there are not that many of them - and then have really robust testing to alleviate transmission back to parents - locking down everything all the time is just a lazy answer to a pandemic - they must re open at hand term if not before
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08/01/2021 15:32:24 2 1
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No. They are not locked to protect teachers...if that was the reason schools would never close. It’s about kids in their hundreds all being together being kids and transmitting it first between themselves then to everyone else. Schools being shut may be a pain but in case you haven’t noticed over a thousand people are dying every day...which is slightly more important than you having a pain.
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08/01/2021 15:33:49 1 1
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Giving the vaccine to teachers won't make a difference. The argument for closing schools is to stop community transmission, vaccinating teachers won't make a difference to that.
I would find it difficult to justify vaccinating a 25 year teacher before a 75 year old who is much more likely to die of covid.
608
08/01/2021 17:03:04 0 0
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Dido of Carnage was thought a better bet with track and trace.
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08/01/2021 15:20:50 88 14
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The problem is not whether the teachers get the virus but that children/students all mix spread it amongst themselves and then take it home to their families (including key worker parents).
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08/01/2021 15:26:05 91 10
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Actually I'd say the problem is both of these things. School staff should not be put at unnecessary risk, just like the students.
08/01/2021 22:31:57 2 1
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I totally agree! My son is a teacher with a wife, toddler and young baby at home. Yet because he works in an area where a lot of pupils do not have access to the internet, and a lot of pupils are Key workers children he has to be put at risk. Teachers must be prioritised for the vaccine if they are expected to go into schools at the present time.
09/01/2021 12:33:40 0 0
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and that should include ancillary staff like caretakers, office staff and catering staff
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08/01/2021 15:13:27 239 22
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Because it isn't a real lockdown, traffic is still up there as it was before, people still moving around, businesses still functioning. Politicians and the rich and famous flouting the rules and simply people have had enough. Getting on with their lives as best as they can.
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08/01/2021 15:22:33 217 8
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I am in one of the worst areas. I still go to work because I work on my own at this time of year. But there is still a suspicious amount of traffic in the evenings locally. They can;t all be going for a late supermarket shop! In fact I know they aren't, because I go into the supermarket in the evening and it is very quiet. A lot of exceptionalism going on here!
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08/01/2021 15:31:52 25 31
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Makes me laugh when someone complains how busy it is out, while being one of those said individuals.
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08/01/2021 17:11:19 7 2
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Absolutely! first lockdown and everywhere was deserted. So many businesses are still open. It's just a waste of time and will do more damage to the economy and people's mental health. Either do it properly or dont bother.
717
08/01/2021 17:38:05 1 2
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I don’t blame people when people are still coming in from abroad where levels are high!
880
08/01/2021 18:31:13 0 2
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Maybe they're going to get tested?
996
08/01/2021 19:00:41 3 0
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Yep agree. Need for better targeting of enforcement based on risk of spreading COVID.

As things stand wo betide you if you use common sense and drive 5 miles to get essential exercise in the forest on safe tracks where you don't see a dozen people all day. Instead rules mean walking from home along a dangerous country road and using narrow, busy, slippery footpaths.
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08/01/2021 15:26:18 208 13
bbc
Not much of a lockdown, really.

Which perhaps explains why we're not getting the virus under control.
158
08/01/2021 15:36:11 76 14
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Indeed. Govt bowing to the foolish contingent, as demonstrated by some of the people on here
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08/01/2021 15:39:15 10 21
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What do you want, house arrest for everyone? There is a limit to what can be done. Learn to live with it until the vaccines improve things. All this flapping is rediculous.
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08/01/2021 15:55:19 12 11
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No one is getting it under control. Go take a look at whats happening to the covid figures in spain and france with their virtual house arrest lockdowns. Lockdowns DO NOT WORK.
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08/01/2021 16:17:30 7 7
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The sad fact is we probably need a proper lockdown now much more than we did in March, but there is too much resistance to it.

Reminds me of when I trained for a 10k run. You don't start out at full speed, you save the sprint for the finish line, not the opening.
435
08/01/2021 16:27:02 8 1
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I'm not saying this lockdown is a good one but even a complete lockdown will take around 2 weeks to get the numbers coming down.
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08/01/2021 16:39:04 7 1
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I think that most people are in fact acting responsibly, and perhaps using their common sense because the lockdown if full of illogicalities.
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08/01/2021 17:39:45 1 1
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Yeah agree to much traffic on road than in April it’s lockdown in name but 4 people fined£200 each going to McDonald’s b4 work
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08/01/2021 17:43:01 3 2
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Its like Piccadilly Circus outside my flat ...do people really need to shop everyday ?? ...and Morrisons do not have any controls in SE5
875
08/01/2021 18:30:00 1 0
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Exactly. Many people just taking no notice at all.
999
08/01/2021 19:04:14 3 0
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Exactly that, The Lockdown in March also coincided with most of the other countries lockdowns, this resulted in zero demand for consumer goods all around the world,
I work for a very large Automotive supplier with over 350 staff on site everyday, we have no lockdown because our customers are still demanding parts. If consumer demand dropped for 4 weeks, then the Virus would recede,
A large number of people have had to work right through who do not have a left wing union pushing for pay without proper work. Removed
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08/01/2021 15:28:35 9 9
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What a remarkably unintelligent comment.
93
08/01/2021 15:28:59 5 2
bbc
Teachers have worked right through this. Teachers are working now. Teachers deserve to be safe and deserve to be able to keep their families safe too.
cock Removed
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CJ
08/01/2021 15:30:08 4 1
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They are all working. They are teaching online, as well as covering the keyworker children. And no, they don't finish at 3.30, my wife was still setting online lessons for today at 7pm last night as it takes longer to prepare a lesson for online delivery than it does in person.
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08/01/2021 15:33:25 1 1
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You should get yourself some education..
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08/01/2021 15:36:54 3 1
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My daughter is a secondary school teacher. She has worked flat out during the whole Covid time, online lesson prep, pupil/ parent emails and support all hours of the day, working out examination style schedules, assessment, going into school for students of parent key workers,some lessons in school, marking, chasing lazy kids, trawling resources,working with kids stressed - no parental support.
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08/01/2021 15:24:03 14 18
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If the union ruled teachers could actually get on with providing online lessons then things would be easier
I don’t see supermarket workers trying to shut the shops?
Unions are the bane of the life in the country
Lazy incompetent people hiding behind the good ones, too few prepared to work to actually teach, either online or in person
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08/01/2021 15:26:46 7 1
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Few other jobs have a union strong enough to actually protect its members. I feel sorry for shop workers and the like...thrown to the wolves
13
08/01/2021 15:11:28 7 14
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I am a parent with autism, mental health difficulties and chronic illness. My partner works full time 6 days a week. I have to home school as well as provide everything else my child needs. I did for 6 months in the summer from March-Sep whilst her school was closed to us. November was ok as schools were open. Now they are closed again forwho knows how long. Nobody thinks about struggling parents
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08/01/2021 15:27:06 6 0
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I don’t believe people don’t realize how hard it is on parents, but at the end of the day they are your kids & the school isn’t childcare. In my case both myself and my husband work full time & are key workers, we need our kids to be guaranteed a place or they are home alone. That is what it is meant to be used for
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08/01/2021 15:27:15 12 21
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What the hell is the matter with teachers? Do they expect everyone else to take risks to keep society open whilst they stay at home on taxpayer funded salaries. Disgusting.
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08/01/2021 15:30:41 6 2
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So how many teachers are staying home? None. They are in school teaching key workers AND providing online learning. Effectively double the workload. What's disgusting is your ignorant comment.
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08/01/2021 15:31:14 3 1
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No one seems to worry about the supermarket workers. Where do the teachers think the kids go when off school?? That’s right, shopping with their parents! They are at huge risk but have to carry on. Or do we shut shops to protect them?
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08/01/2021 15:31:29 5 2
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You clearly know absolutely nothing whatsoever about what teaches are doing right now. Your comments are insulting and disgusting. How dare you speak about teachers this way. Who are you? Why is the BBC allowing trash comments like this. Teachers are working flat out and always have. This is the kind of comment that should be blocked BBC - not those that speak the truth.
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08/01/2021 15:58:18 2 1
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On another comment you said your family was full of teachers. Make your mind up or jog on troll
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08/01/2021 17:05:19 0 0
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You see? Little transport so you are late to the party.
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08/01/2021 15:26:11 24 18
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So much for headteachers caring about kids. Can they honestly say that a particular group should be removed from the critical workers list? Didn't think so.

The best place for a kid is at school. Teachers who genuinely care about kids' education and mental health will rejoice that more of them are in the place that's best for them.
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08/01/2021 15:33:08 20 1
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i work for a company making expresso powder classed as essential worker absolute rubbish its about making money
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08/01/2021 16:26:45 1 0
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good point
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Lee
08/01/2021 15:25:00 105 10
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It’s not a lockdown I say it everyday people are out and about ALL DAY everyday and the traffic is horrendous!!!
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mc
08/01/2021 15:26:17 33 108
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it is a free country
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Tom
08/01/2021 16:18:02 27 10
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mc

it is a free country

1325 people died yesterday! That's 1 person every 66 seconds. If you think the lockdown is optional maybe you can mention that to the nurse that will have to treat you one day.
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08/01/2021 16:23:20 12 2
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Unless you go for a walk on a mountain or reservoir. Bound to be arrested then.
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08/01/2021 16:46:53 18 5
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No, the UK is not a free country, never has been, and probably never will be, and quite rightly so. The UK is a democratic country, a big difference. I have often wondered where people get these silly ideas from. Nobody is free to drink and drive and risk lives, and there are many such laws and restrictions. Currently the gov has invoked powers to lockdown to protect lives, let's all show sense.
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08/01/2021 17:00:41 2 2
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Was
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08/01/2021 17:09:05 3 2
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No, clearly it's not a free country, if it was I would be able to go out.
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08/01/2021 17:20:43 4 2
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If any single commnet has summed the problem up it's yours.
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08/01/2021 17:21:03 6 0
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No it isn’t. There has to be rules and regulations.

Why do you think there are traffic lights at road junctions? It is for the safety of everyone and the fairest way to share the road.

Same with this lockdown. It is to make life as safe as possible for as many as possible and to share the NHS services as fairly as possible.
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08/01/2021 17:33:49 3 1
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And with the likes of you....therein lies the problem!
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08/01/2021 17:39:29 4 1
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We are free only for so long as our "freedom" does not include endangering the lives of others. It is illegal to carry an offensive weapon, break the speed limit...try the free country argument on those and see what happens.
09/01/2021 21:48:47 0 0
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Not if your dead
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08/01/2021 15:15:03 6 12
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They worry about the spread in communities from school. We are in lockdown, there is no community. Kids should be in school.
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Dan
08/01/2021 15:27:50 1 0
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Kid goes to school mixes with ten people, goes home, parent goes to food production factory to work the next day that has 800 staff.
Food factory staff may get the virus and supermarkets will have a shortage of food.
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08/01/2021 15:24:03 14 18
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If the union ruled teachers could actually get on with providing online lessons then things would be easier
I don’t see supermarket workers trying to shut the shops?
Unions are the bane of the life in the country
Lazy incompetent people hiding behind the good ones, too few prepared to work to actually teach, either online or in person
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CJ
08/01/2021 15:27:59 5 1
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supermarket workers are allowed to wear masks and other PPE. This is banned in classrooms (masks are only allowed in corridors). How do you socially distance in a class of 30 students? You can't even keep them a metre apart as they have to share desks to fit in the room. In a supermarket you brush past someone for 30 seconds, in a classroom you are with them for 50 minutes at a time!
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08/01/2021 15:19:36 126 20
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People commenting here seem to miss the point that teachers STILL WORK when the school is shut to most pupils-they're teaching online! Schools are clearly a place where the virus spreads. Still having most of the kids come in DEFEATS THE POINT! Children who don't have access to online resources need to be helped so they don't miss out-attacking teachers for highlighting this is missing the point
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mc
08/01/2021 15:26:44 11 51
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i think not
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08/01/2021 15:39:03 10 4
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Foolish comment.
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08/01/2021 18:38:42 3 1
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"i think not"

No evidence, no argument, no reason(s) given, no basis for "thinking not" at all then. A worthless remark from apparent ignorance.
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08/01/2021 18:52:55 0 0
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Normally we say 'I don't think'. 'i (sic) think not' is not used very often but to be fair, we do get what you're saying.
08/01/2021 21:29:37 0 1
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Then you think wrong!
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08/01/2021 15:13:50 16 10
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It's the very high risk of transmission both amongst pupils, especially secondary age, the therefore the additional risks to the staff. Shop workers don't face the same risks and delivery drivers and posties work most of the time singly. Give vaccinations asap to teachers and they'll be back in school.
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08/01/2021 15:27:09 5 1
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Shop workers must face the same risks, hundreds (if not more) of shoppers from all areas of the community, many of them unmasked or unbothered about guidance all touching various items that staff the have to touch afterwards.
I feel for teachers but many profession have had to work despite their working in environment not being "100% safe". No environment is 100%, there is a global pandemic!
A large number of people have had to work right through who do not have a left wing union pushing for pay without proper work. Removed
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08/01/2021 15:28:35 9 9
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What a remarkably unintelligent comment.
Why? The Labour Party and their lapdog unions and Labour Mayors have been playing Party politics with the pandemic since Day 1.
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08/01/2021 15:32:16 2 0
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Not really. Most industries in the UK are not unionised, and a lot of people work for themselves. Unions represent very few people now.
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08/01/2021 15:20:32 14 4
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Good for you. Just keep doing it and get used to it. It is only your responsibility. No one else’s not the State's either. You chose to have a child.
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08/01/2021 15:28:39 0 4
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Your parents must have made the same choice. (doesn't sound like they were married).
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08/01/2021 15:20:17 10 13
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Maybe as young kids are barely touched by the current cv19 illness - or thier parents if they are under 50, its not a big risk and they are smart enough once they are home not to send them round to granny in her 80's.

It would be good to see parents behaving with a bit of responsibilty to the world and stop moaning about how the govt spoiled thier summer holidays etc etc etc
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08/01/2021 15:28:40 1 0
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Agree, to a point, but it's not that simple.

Infected child infects parent/s who in turn pass it on to friends and colleagues, more likely if there are no symptoms of the infection

Under 11s being collected from school sees people congregating, and not observing social distancing etc.

If we had a true lockdown it might work, but currently, no chance...
A large number of people have had to work right through who do not have a left wing union pushing for pay without proper work. Removed
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08/01/2021 15:28:59 5 2
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Teachers have worked right through this. Teachers are working now. Teachers deserve to be safe and deserve to be able to keep their families safe too.
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08/01/2021 15:24:03 14 18
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If the union ruled teachers could actually get on with providing online lessons then things would be easier
I don’t see supermarket workers trying to shut the shops?
Unions are the bane of the life in the country
Lazy incompetent people hiding behind the good ones, too few prepared to work to actually teach, either online or in person
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08/01/2021 15:29:02 0 1
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I despair of the BBC giving a voice to the uninformed ramblings of others, but that is the price of a functioning democracy. Long may it last!!!
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08/01/2021 15:24:43 9 0
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Pubs are shut.
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08/01/2021 15:29:05 0 2
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They're about the only places that are!
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08/01/2021 16:59:36 0 1
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That's because our masters don't want us to enjoy life or have social relationships. Not due to a virus
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08/01/2021 15:12:38 18 7
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Adding limits in kind of absurd. It's likely that its a problem for a few schools in very specific areas with high levels of povety, or even keyworkers.

I know someone who works in a very underprivileged area (at one point record was only 2 parents in a class had a job). She has always believed the school should stay open because she knows they are not going to get a great education at home
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08/01/2021 15:29:06 4 2
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"very specific areas with high levels of poverty, or even keyworkers." - a huge number of key workers are in poverty. NMW with 12 hrs shifts is the norm
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08/01/2021 15:29:10 4 2
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Our school has 220 pupils, of which 100 pupils. It's not unexpected or anyone's fault. Just don't expect lock down to end anytime soon whilst numbers are so high.
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08/01/2021 15:29:35 9 5
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I think you need to make provision for frontline staff. I am sure the teachers and others who are complaining about key workers children being at school would be the first to complain if there wasn't adequate nurses and doctors to staff covid wards because they needed to stay at home to look after their children. There needs to be a balance.
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08/01/2021 16:36:17 1 0
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I don't think any teachers are complaining about that. It sounds like they are complaining about the criteria of key workers. I think we would agree that there are some services we understand fitting that definition more easily. For example as you point out, health workers, care workers, police, fire and people associated with infrastructure needs. The lists of who can send kids in is looooong.
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08/01/2021 15:29:54 4 3
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I am a teacher in a small special needs school. March Lockdown: 6 students in my key stage. This lockdown: 20. March lockdown: 4 staff in. This lockdown: 20 staff in. March lockdown: passed 2-3 vehicles per morning on the motorway. This lockdown: 200+ vehicles.
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08/01/2021 15:30:00 8 5
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I'm disgusted with the Head of a local primary school. He was on local radio demanding for schools to stay open. It seems his school is approaching full capacity despite the rules which he seems to be ignoring. Saw a parent who is at home all day, take her kids to school this morning. Then later on she was entertaining her friend who visited. Their selfish actions are perpetuating this virus.
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08/01/2021 16:07:58 3 4
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That Head really cares about his students' education and mental health. Rather than disgust he merits the utmost admiration.