Just how bad has Sheffield United's season been?
12/01/2021 | sport | football | 345
Without a win in the league so far in 2020-21, how bad has Sheffield United's season been?
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12/01/2021 06:22:44 6 5
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They will beat Newcastle tonight and kick start their season. Newcastle are in free fall but may survive. Bruce is clueless
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12/01/2021 19:37:39 0 0
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your call looks like it may happen , should have put your house on it
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12/01/2021 06:25:19 97 1
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Thinking back to that terrible Derby team, their only win of the season was against Newcastle (who Sheffield United play tonight). They also managed a draw against Newcastle in the 2nd game, so four of their 11 points came against one team.

As a Newcastle fan living in Derby at the time it was less than ideal.
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12/01/2021 06:56:24 39 3
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It's a shame they couldn't have played Newcastle every week.
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12/01/2021 14:00:02 1 0
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also Derby lost 9 games by 1-0 and a further 6 by 1goal games which could have gone either way i think newcastle and fulham were the only teams not to have beaten derby that season
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12/01/2021 14:40:27 1 0
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Was thinking exactly the same thing, the omens are not looking good for Newcastle tonight!
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13/01/2021 11:04:29 0 0
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Give me the lottery numbers?
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12/01/2021 06:27:41 13 6
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It has been very bad. They haven’t won any league games and have scored very few goals. They will be relegated. Pointless question.
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12/01/2021 06:28:07 8 7
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The change in fortune at Sheffield United is nothing less than astounding. I’d love them to find some form from somewhere and make a fist of it, Dave Bassett style. Go on Blades!
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12/01/2021 06:40:30 72 9
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Swindon in 42 games conceded 100 goals at 2.38 per game.
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.

So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.

Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
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12/01/2021 06:56:53 24 2
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Was about to post this. Pretty poor from an analysis article.
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12/01/2021 08:19:08 14 0
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Tarquin must have been on the champagne early
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12/01/2021 16:10:06 0 0
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I wouldn't mind, but they didn't even have to fact check it, just use a calculator!

I'm sure their swanky iPhones have one... Don't they?
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12/01/2021 16:40:25 2 0
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It's a shame that didn't do it on goal difference, as Swindon scored a whopping 47 goals that season, so only finished on -53.
Derby finished on -69 with only 20 scored. I think Derby shade on all round woeful performance in the premier league.
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12/01/2021 17:09:54 1 0
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"Swindon in 42 games conceded 100 goals at 2.38 per game."

But only because we got a lot of dodgy refereeing decisions! LOL.
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12/01/2021 06:43:55 172 4
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I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.

But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
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12/01/2021 06:57:27 56 1
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One of my favourite bits of footballing pub ammo that. Great fact.
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12/01/2021 08:49:29 8 0
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And the only title winners to get relegated the next season. Something Leicester looked like emulating for a worrying few weeks in 16/17.
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12/01/2021 09:27:27 4 1
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Also in 1937 we were champions.
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12/01/2021 10:12:45 1 0
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The only defending champions ever to be relegated too. We came within three points of joining them in 1993.
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12/01/2021 12:21:12 4 0
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Wow, wasn't aware of that! Just checked out the table, astonishing season. Only 16 points separated top from bottom! I know it was 2 points for a win but still!!
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12/01/2021 12:26:23 3 6
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last time man city were a decent club as well, great fact!
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12/01/2021 14:19:05 1 0
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Arsenal play in their distinctive famous red shirts with white arms as the original kit was donated by Nottingham Forest.
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12/01/2021 14:20:19 2 0
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I know it is very annoying, the Legacy Media are just imbecilic, Many years of top Division Football occurred pre Premier league and it is that which should be counted, top Division not the dumbass Premier league only.
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12/01/2021 14:32:37 1 0
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????????????
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12/01/2021 15:01:09 0 0
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Who was the manager, bielsa?!!
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12/01/2021 15:17:24 0 0
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That is a great stat.
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12/01/2021 15:58:32 0 0
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It's man city and man utd fans not the media ??
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12/01/2021 16:15:41 1 0
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Huddersfield Town’s Div 1 title win in 1923-24 was and remains the narrowest top flight title win ever, by 0.024 of a goal over second placed Cardiff City.

In their final games, Cardiff City only needed to draw to win the title and Huddersfield Town needed to win by 3-0 to deny Cardiff the title.

Cardiff City drew 0-0 with Birmingham City and Huddersfield Town won 3-0 v Nottingham Forest.
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12/01/2021 16:43:40 1 0
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Great stat. What it also demonstrates is the downside of the PL.
We've seen some world stars here that we otherwise wouldn't and some great football but as a real competition it is sadly lacking.
Mid 60s to mid 70s. Eight different winners of the old Div 1.
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12/01/2021 17:05:38 0 0
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Good fact apart from the fact that goal difference didn't count then they used goal average right up until 1978-79.
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12/01/2021 06:47:31 5 1
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As a Brighton fan, thank goodness. As a football fan, stay up with us!
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12/01/2021 06:56:11 1 0
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TLTR

It has been pretty bad.
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12/01/2021 06:25:19 97 1
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Thinking back to that terrible Derby team, their only win of the season was against Newcastle (who Sheffield United play tonight). They also managed a draw against Newcastle in the 2nd game, so four of their 11 points came against one team.

As a Newcastle fan living in Derby at the time it was less than ideal.
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12/01/2021 06:56:24 39 3
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It's a shame they couldn't have played Newcastle every week.
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12/01/2021 19:07:41 1 0
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I recall hearing the fans singing "Can we play you every week". If only! Kenny Millers winning goal whilst great, was very speculative from the half way line and therefore somewhat lucky (or well taken?), We didn't lack players with ability to stay up that year, they just constantly failed to turn up on a match day! Hoping Utd will steal our record but can't see it ever being beaten.
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12/01/2021 06:40:30 72 9
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Swindon in 42 games conceded 100 goals at 2.38 per game.
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.

So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.

Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
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12/01/2021 06:56:53 24 2
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Was about to post this. Pretty poor from an analysis article.
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Dys
12/01/2021 06:57:15 10 3
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I quite like SU. But they're not staying up.
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12/01/2021 06:43:55 172 4
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I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.

But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
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12/01/2021 06:57:27 56 1
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One of my favourite bits of footballing pub ammo that. Great fact.
Removed
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12/01/2021 12:41:17 6 0
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It is a good one, others I like are:

Arsenal's heaviest ever defeat was against the mighty Loughborough
Nelson FC, currently in the North West Counites league, were the first English club to play Real Madrid, and they won.
Mark Hughes once played 2 matches in the same day, for Wales and Bayern Munich.
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12/01/2021 17:11:14 0 0
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I hope you have a good memory to remember that one when we can go back to the pub
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12/01/2021 06:59:26 11 8
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Even as a Derby fan I hope Sheff Utd can turn it around, especially after last season's heroics. I suspect they have more fight in them than we did and Derby's dismal record will be preserved.
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12/01/2021 09:15:29 3 1
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As a Ram, I do not want them to turn it around ??
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12/01/2021 07:12:45 24 7
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Very sad as they were the real heroes of last season.
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12/01/2021 07:34:34 39 7
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Tha lack of fans inside Bramhall Lane, plus some terrible luck, has done for the Blades. It's a shame, they were great last season up until the lockdown. Bramhall Lane was an absolute cauldron, I watched a few teams go there and be under siege for the first half an hour, Man United couldn't get out of their own penalty area and were 2-0 down before they came back alive.
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12/01/2021 11:52:49 5 1
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Like Norwich last season.
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12/01/2021 12:25:04 1 1
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#Bramall
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12/01/2021 14:47:00 2 1
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They will no doubt blame West Ham and Tevez!! ????
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12/01/2021 16:17:16 2 0
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You don’t lose 15 out of 17 games due to bad luck. “Luck” is a random event and will probably even itself out over a season.

You lose 15 games because your not very good.
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12/01/2021 07:49:17 14 2
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WBA SU Burnley and Fulham need home town support + cold wet weather to cover their limitations. The covid break hurt SU as the top teams got 10 weeks break hot temps hard and fast grounds and empty stadiums. The season just died after the resumption. This suited Arsenal's touch players who beat teams who had stopped playing. Empty stadiums makes it difficult to take football seriously.
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12/01/2021 10:13:04 0 1
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Definitely true that some teams have benefitted from no fans and some have not. The promoted teams, generally, have not...though Fulham have improved.
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12/01/2021 14:13:06 1 0
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agree if you look at the stats since teams started playing in empty stadiums the number of home wins has dropped dramatically and therefore the number of away wins and draws increased showing the impact the home support can have on the result
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12/01/2021 07:52:21 19 9
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Things go against you in games when you're struggling and that's certainly been the Blades story this season.

When you watch them play, their League position is false, they're a solid team just undone by a mixture of bad luck and occasional but costly individual errors.

Confidence continues to drain though and that's got to be the biggest concern - "losing is a difficult habit to break"
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13/01/2021 18:01:43 0 0
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The league table doesn't lie, unless refs are biased towards you (which they aren't for SHU).
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12/01/2021 07:55:19 36 6
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they've lost 11 of their 15 games by just the 1 goal and beat Chelsea & Tottenham 3-0 & 3-1 in July so they obviously arent as woeful as that Derby side were but they need goals and to go on an unbeaten run urgently
During Derby's dire season & in desperate need of quality reinforcements they bought Robbie Savage in the January transfer window!
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12/01/2021 16:03:53 0 1
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Exactly my point too.
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12/01/2021 07:59:54 3 4
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As a Brighotn fan, i have to say, we are the joke of the football league. Potter hasnt got a clue. We should be well below the blades right now. How these misfits have scraped together 14 points is beyond me. We spend most matches passing the ball backwards, you dont goals doing that - message to potter: sort it out before you get fired.
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JT
12/01/2021 08:23:05 1 0
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Message to Potter - don't allow you team to potter about.
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12/01/2021 10:10:58 0 0
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At least two of them were from a dodgy VAR decision v. Villa. Ironically similar last year when Villa had to score 3 to win 2-1 v Brighton. Not really Brighton's fault if the tech is garbage though.
Can't account for the rest - haven't been paying close attention, but didn't think Brighton that terrible overall.
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12/01/2021 10:32:22 0 0
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As a saints fan living near Brighton I do feel your pain, after poch we went backwards and had to suffer 3 years of 70% possession 1 shot on target football...I honestly nearly stopped watching it was that bad..I dont think Potter is up to the Job personally...very hard to watch and you dont create enough chances
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12/01/2021 14:52:10 0 0
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Doubt you're a Brighton fan! Alternatively you haven't been watching them or you know nothing about good football, the only thing missing at Brighton is a prolific goal scorer and sick note Lalana ??
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KR
12/01/2021 08:10:43 7 5
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If one were to look at Sheffield United's results one will soon notice how many games they have lost by the odd goal. All they need is a little bit of luck, a little bit more concentration, a little bit of good fortune and a little bit more determination and resolve and I genuinely believe the upturn in results will come.
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12/01/2021 08:48:26 2 1
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Thing is, one doesn't care
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12/01/2021 06:40:30 72 9
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Swindon in 42 games conceded 100 goals at 2.38 per game.
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.

So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.

Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
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12/01/2021 08:19:08 14 0
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Tarquin must have been on the champagne early
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12/01/2021 08:48:28 11 0
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Never off it by some of the Articles being released all over the Sports pages.
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Bob
12/01/2021 08:22:16 8 4
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I disagree with most post here, when you watch them play you can see exactly why they are where they are, no ambition in their tactics for 2 seasons now and I am glad it is now reflected in their league position
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12/01/2021 16:24:36 0 0
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yeah agree, it's hard to score when you won't put the ball in the box.
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12/01/2021 07:59:54 3 4
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As a Brighotn fan, i have to say, we are the joke of the football league. Potter hasnt got a clue. We should be well below the blades right now. How these misfits have scraped together 14 points is beyond me. We spend most matches passing the ball backwards, you dont goals doing that - message to potter: sort it out before you get fired.
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JT
12/01/2021 08:23:05 1 0
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Message to Potter - don't allow you team to potter about.
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12/01/2021 08:23:13 1 0
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MOST CORNER FLAGS SMASHED BY OPPOSITION
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12/01/2021 08:25:43 4 2
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Sack the goalkeeper he wasn't good when we had the first time round sold him for a million pounds then paid 18 million pounds to get him back waste of money
Wilder made some bad signings .
From a blade fan
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12/01/2021 08:26:18 9 7
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Tonight Sheffield Utd must get a win over Newcastle to stand any chance one feels. Seem to remember that Derby’s one win in their bleak relegation was against Newcastle!!?? Hope the Blades can somehow escape....from a Foxes fan.
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12/01/2021 08:26:48 3 0
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There is no silver bullet for Sheffield United.
They are in a downward spiral so something needs to change, and quickly.
The most immediate solution would be to introduce new players in the January window.
Perhaps oversimplistic but it seems that as they have a solid defence the problem is upfront.
So they should put all their eggs in one basket and go all-out for a proven goalscorer.
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12/01/2021 16:30:33 1 0
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The problem is who would go there? Who could they afford?

I'd take a punt on Glenn Murry and tell the rest of the lads that their wages will be docked every time they don't put the ball in the box, instead passing it back to the goal keeper
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12/01/2021 08:28:16 10 4
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I would have said pretty bad, this will be Leeds next season
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12/01/2021 08:36:33 6 6
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Based on what evidence, and also irrelevant to this discussion. Last season SU scrapped some lucky wins along the way to a flattering league position, and whilst LUFC haven't been consistent, we have beaten some good teams, and thrashed the rubbish
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12/01/2021 08:28:50 3 2
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The fact that all the pundits are still giving Wilder (deserved) praise for what he has achieved as Blades manager before this season & refusing to crucify him for current results may well be contributing to the Blades run of poor form
It means that all pressure & scrutiny remains on the players If the press blamed Wilder all the players would become determined to help their boss & give extra 10%
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Zak
12/01/2021 08:33:57 6 1
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I don't think you understand the implications that sacking Wilder would have. If anything, it would just further demoralise them. Even if their fate is sealed, better to keep wilder so he can steer them towards a promotion push, rather than bringing in someone who will leave them in midtable of the championship at best. Wilder has done an excellent job and one bad season doesn't change that.
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12/01/2021 08:29:48 2 1
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Sheffield United actually have some good premiership quality players. Its mad!
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12/01/2021 08:35:53 3 1
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Or overachieving championship players!
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ET
12/01/2021 08:43:59 0 0
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Really?
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12/01/2021 08:32:05 9 6
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Embarrassingly, hilariously bad, that's how bad its been. Long may it continue.
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12/01/2021 10:50:02 4 0
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Wednesday fan...?
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12/01/2021 08:28:50 3 2
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The fact that all the pundits are still giving Wilder (deserved) praise for what he has achieved as Blades manager before this season & refusing to crucify him for current results may well be contributing to the Blades run of poor form
It means that all pressure & scrutiny remains on the players If the press blamed Wilder all the players would become determined to help their boss & give extra 10%
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Zak
12/01/2021 08:33:57 6 1
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I don't think you understand the implications that sacking Wilder would have. If anything, it would just further demoralise them. Even if their fate is sealed, better to keep wilder so he can steer them towards a promotion push, rather than bringing in someone who will leave them in midtable of the championship at best. Wilder has done an excellent job and one bad season doesn't change that.
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12/01/2021 08:29:48 2 1
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Sheffield United actually have some good premiership quality players. Its mad!
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12/01/2021 08:35:53 3 1
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Or overachieving championship players!
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12/01/2021 08:28:16 10 4
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I would have said pretty bad, this will be Leeds next season
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12/01/2021 08:36:33 6 6
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Based on what evidence, and also irrelevant to this discussion. Last season SU scrapped some lucky wins along the way to a flattering league position, and whilst LUFC haven't been consistent, we have beaten some good teams, and thrashed the rubbish
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ET
12/01/2021 08:43:14 5 1
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Except Crawley ??????????????
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12/01/2021 09:17:15 4 0
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Also been smashed a few times as well. Leeds are a very entertaining team. Score plenty concede plenty. Problem is if they stop scoring, cannot see them keeping many clean sheets. Bielsa like Wilder is stubborn. Doesnt change his tactics, sticks to the mantra. In your first season back it will work but those cemented Prem clubs learn fast and it doesnt work the following season.
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12/01/2021 10:08:33 1 0
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The big test for Leeds - aside their occasional inconsistencies defending, is whether they will have the momentum all season or whether they will fade out around spring as they have the last several years. If they can build on this season and stay focused then they'll be fine. But otherwise it will depend on points accured NOW to cover the last few months. We'll wait and see.
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12/01/2021 12:11:35 0 0
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You can see that their on the wane, the other clubs will suss them out, its happening now
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12/01/2021 08:36:33 6 6
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Based on what evidence, and also irrelevant to this discussion. Last season SU scrapped some lucky wins along the way to a flattering league position, and whilst LUFC haven't been consistent, we have beaten some good teams, and thrashed the rubbish
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ET
12/01/2021 08:43:14 5 1
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Except Crawley ??????????????
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12/01/2021 09:10:50 1 3
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yes. that was embarrassing, but we stated the Cups were not priority
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12/01/2021 08:29:48 2 1
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Sheffield United actually have some good premiership quality players. Its mad!
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ET
12/01/2021 08:43:59 0 0
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Really?
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12/01/2021 13:16:48 0 0
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I think so. Egan, Burke, Basham and Norwood I'd say are all bottom 6 quality players. Still premiership quality even if low end?
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12/01/2021 08:44:45 29 4
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Don't worry, they've got us (Newcastle) tonight, we were nice enough to give Derby 4 of their points so I'm sure Sheff Utd will do something similar with the tactical masterclass from Bruce coming up.
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12/01/2021 14:06:25 3 3
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derby should have had 6 points from newcasle that season winning 1-09 at home and drawing 2-2 away after leading twice, newcastle getting a lucky late equaliser
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12/01/2021 15:21:26 2 4
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Newcastle fans will jsut never accept Bruce will they? He's doing just as well as Rafa had done. For a club that's done literally nothing for 67 years, their fans have a very inflated sense of entitlement.
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13/01/2021 18:00:53 0 0
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Damn right.
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KR
12/01/2021 08:10:43 7 5
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If one were to look at Sheffield United's results one will soon notice how many games they have lost by the odd goal. All they need is a little bit of luck, a little bit more concentration, a little bit of good fortune and a little bit more determination and resolve and I genuinely believe the upturn in results will come.
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12/01/2021 08:48:26 2 1
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Thing is, one doesn't care
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12/01/2021 08:19:08 14 0
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Tarquin must have been on the champagne early
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12/01/2021 08:48:28 11 0
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Never off it by some of the Articles being released all over the Sports pages.
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12/01/2021 06:43:55 172 4
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I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.

But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
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12/01/2021 08:49:29 8 0
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And the only title winners to get relegated the next season. Something Leicester looked like emulating for a worrying few weeks in 16/17.
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12/01/2021 08:50:41 36 13
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Laughable all the comments about bad luck etc, they have played 17 games and won none of them, that is shocking.

They have been found out by better teams with better players whilst still riding the crest of last seasons wave, seen it all before, remember Ipswich under George Burley.

Wilder is a good manager not a great one and is out of his depth at the minute, think they are down.
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12/01/2021 13:37:33 2 2
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I don't think they've really changed how they're playing. Last season it was a novelty so teams found it difficult against them. This season they've worked it out so the Blades have been found out.
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12/01/2021 15:35:09 0 0
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Ipswich under Burley made the mistake of trying to upgrade their team in their second season. The player new players didn't gel and hey presto relegation. Second season is always hard.
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12/01/2021 08:51:48 2 1
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Well, it’s not been great! I do fancy them for the win tonight though
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12/01/2021 08:55:31 9 4
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“They’re a very good side still and we’ll have to be at our best to beat them.” Who said that yesterday? Steve Bruce, describing Sheff Utd. Last season, NUFC beat them 3-0 and 2-0. Anybody who wonders why Bruce is not rated by his team's supporters needs only to read his comments. He constantly lowers expectations and belittles the fans. The team play so deep they've forgotten how to attack.
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12/01/2021 09:36:46 11 1
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To be fair, he can't exactly say "they're rubbish, we'll stick 5 past this mob of jokers". Standard media training. After every game, no matter who it is against, in the post match interview you'll always hear the same old "we knew it'd be a tough game" or "it's a difficult place to come" whether it's Liverpool or Luton.

I'm sure what he's saying in the dressing room is very different.
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12/01/2021 08:57:51 6 1
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Don't worry they have to play Newcastle twice yet for starters
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12/01/2021 09:01:27 3 0
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The problem Sheff Utd have is that they have a championship squad of players and too small a wages structure to really compete. Even their big money signings this season are middle to top end Championship standard. Last season was a remarkable effort using tactics that surprised many teams.

The same tactics were highly unlikely to work again this season. Henderson & O'Connell are big misses.
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12/01/2021 09:03:55 4 0
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Over-achieved with championship standard players LY. Mistakes have been with recruitment but he'll learn. We come back hopefully stronger and wiser but have to keep the manager. Old ethos - "learn from your mistakes"
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12/01/2021 09:05:04 57 4
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How can I apply for a job in the BBC sports department?

Money for old rope.
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12/01/2021 10:53:06 13 1
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I thought you might have spent it on something more useful ??
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12/01/2021 16:05:25 2 0
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Show a strong affinity for women's football and support Man Utd.
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12/01/2021 17:07:45 1 0
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Err ,tick all the required boxes ?
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12/01/2021 09:05:57 2 1
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They've got mcburnie and mcgoldrick who can't score for toffee, then went and spent £20m on Brewster who is totally unproven and looks just as useless. If you haven't got the money you won't last in the premiership.
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12/01/2021 09:51:37 6 0
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It's not the money, it's making sure you spend it well. Teams can stay up on relatively low net spends, but they've gotta buy the right people.

Signing Brewster because Liverpool said he was good even though he's completely unproven in the Premier League is not a good investment. He's just joined a host of Liverpool "wonderkids" who've been proven to be bang average. Ibe, Solanke, Brewster...
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12/01/2021 09:06:11 5 1
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United's most consistent player over the past three years, Jack O'Connell, has been out for nearly all the season, so that's hurt the team defensively. They've actually got more shots on target per game than last season, but a mixture of injuries, bad luck and poor refereeing decisions cost them at the start of the season.
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12/01/2021 09:08:19 0 1
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Don't worry SU.

Lawro has predicted you a win
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12/01/2021 09:09:38 90 8
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Sheff Utd should stick with Wilder. Having 2 seasons in the Premier League is a bonus.

They will inevitably get relegated so replacing Wilder now will achieve nothing. Who would you try and employ for a Championship promotion push when that happens - Chris Wilder.

Norwich are showing what can be done keeping some consistency. They will inevitably go up this season and have another go.
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12/01/2021 11:25:17 44 4
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Perfectly put - in the last few years several relegated teams have proven that sticking with the manager and keeping stability is the best way to go
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12/01/2021 16:02:19 0 1
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Yes. Definitely agree.
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12/01/2021 16:39:30 2 1
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I'm a Norwich fan, yeah we'll probably go up and come straight back down again. It's all we've got though because we can't compete financially. The loophole here is the parachute payments. Should Sheff Utd go down they'll more than likely come up again, though a relegation finishing bottom with barely any points is likely morale sapping.
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ET
12/01/2021 08:43:14 5 1
bbc
Except Crawley ??????????????
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12/01/2021 09:10:50 1 3
bbc
yes. that was embarrassing, but we stated the Cups were not priority
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12/01/2021 09:11:27 5 10
bbc
When will Newcastle fans realise that they are not a big team ,won nothing for years and probably never will unfortunately for them to much money at the top clubs and they must have paid Alan shearer god knows how much to play for them another player who only thinks about his bank account because he was never going to win a trophy with them.
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
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12/01/2021 09:27:14 9 3
bbc
He could have gone elsewhere, had more money and medals but he stayed loyal to the club he loves, i admire him for that. Ps im not a gordie or newcastle fan
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12/01/2021 09:46:14 3 1
bbc
kev2426 obviously a jealous mackem
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12/01/2021 09:59:19 2 2
bbc
You are dead right. He stayed far too long after injury meant he couldn’t run. Any other team would have shipped him out when he was 28 but he was indulged because of local hero status while always being highest paid. Other players had to do his running. Team was designed around a cf who couldn’t run and team atrophied around him. I’m from Newcastle and watched this happen.
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12/01/2021 14:57:28 0 0
bbc
They're not a big team, but they are a big club!
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bbc
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12/01/2021 06:59:26 11 8
bbc
Even as a Derby fan I hope Sheff Utd can turn it around, especially after last season's heroics. I suspect they have more fight in them than we did and Derby's dismal record will be preserved.
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12/01/2021 09:15:29 3 1
bbc
As a Ram, I do not want them to turn it around ??
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12/01/2021 09:15:37 1 2
bbc
Part of the problem is not the players that are there, as they are average at best, the manager is poor with obviously no direction for the team. But the owners are the biggest problem, failing to invest you can’t compete in PL unless you invest in quality, not buying cast offs that nobody else wants. WBA, Norwich, Fulham and Sheff Utd have failed to invest FACT
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hi
12/01/2021 09:48:20 3 0
bbc
Not sure it’s fair to accuse Wilder of being poor with no direction after 2 promotions and a brilliant first season back in the PL, with their style of play working brilliantly and actually entertaining to watch. Think you are right on the investment front though, too many of the players played out of their skins last season and understandably couldn’t match the same intensity levels this term.
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12/01/2021 08:36:33 6 6
bbc
Based on what evidence, and also irrelevant to this discussion. Last season SU scrapped some lucky wins along the way to a flattering league position, and whilst LUFC haven't been consistent, we have beaten some good teams, and thrashed the rubbish
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12/01/2021 09:17:15 4 0
bbc
Also been smashed a few times as well. Leeds are a very entertaining team. Score plenty concede plenty. Problem is if they stop scoring, cannot see them keeping many clean sheets. Bielsa like Wilder is stubborn. Doesnt change his tactics, sticks to the mantra. In your first season back it will work but those cemented Prem clubs learn fast and it doesnt work the following season.
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12/01/2021 09:22:24 1 0
bbc
If you're one of players who got them promoted and stay up last season to then see the hideously overpriced and overrated Ramsdale and Brewster arrive, you'd be smarting. Did they need to spend so big when only tweaks were required?

At an admittedly different level CW did the same at my team Oxford when he got us promoted. He learned from that and he'll have to do the same again at the Blades.
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12/01/2021 11:46:19 1 0
bbc
To be fair, regarding the keeper situation he had to spend because their keeper went back after loan. As for Brewster, the team didn't score enough last season and Billy Sharp is nearing the end so it was s replacement with bags of potential and potentially many years left at his prime. If anything he should have more and strengthened more positions
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12/01/2021 09:23:09 1 0
bbc
Pretty odds on to go down. But financially that is not a disaster at all. Those parachute payments - lovely. Nor have they over extended themslves in the transfer market. Wilder has been on the wrong end of bad luck and plain bad refereeing decisions. Can't fault his team for effort and spirit. Stick with Wilder and gently strengthen the team. From a MCFC fan.
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12/01/2021 11:31:30 0 0
bbc
Over extend themselves in transfer market. They spent over 50 million ,of course City fan so just pocket change for you
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12/01/2021 06:57:27 56 1
bbc
One of my favourite bits of footballing pub ammo that. Great fact.
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12/01/2021 09:11:27 5 10
bbc
When will Newcastle fans realise that they are not a big team ,won nothing for years and probably never will unfortunately for them to much money at the top clubs and they must have paid Alan shearer god knows how much to play for them another player who only thinks about his bank account because he was never going to win a trophy with them.
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
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12/01/2021 09:27:14 9 3
bbc
He could have gone elsewhere, had more money and medals but he stayed loyal to the club he loves, i admire him for that. Ps im not a gordie or newcastle fan
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12/01/2021 10:17:52 1 1
bbc
Spot on, could have gone to United a couple of times and won a shed load of medals, but stayed loyal to his hometown club. Absolute legend and a great double act with Wrighty on motd
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12/01/2021 06:43:55 172 4
bbc
I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.

But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
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12/01/2021 09:27:27 4 1
bbc
Also in 1937 we were champions.
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12/01/2021 09:27:33 2 1
bbc
2 points better than FusterCluck and 10 points short of Hope.
Blunt Blades: Chamionship 2021-22. We all know that.
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12/01/2021 09:28:17 1 0
bbc
I always believe there is a 2nd season syndrome for clubs who came up and who did well in 1st season but struggle in the 2nd.

This is because majority of their squad (With Sheff) do not have vast experience of PL level and played above their best which caught many teams out in 1st 2/3 of season.

As 2nd season started, Sheff didn't invest in real PL quality and relied on same squad to do the same
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12/01/2021 09:35:42 1 0
bbc
So BBC state today that Spurs v Fulham is off tomorrow evening ...please confirm
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12/01/2021 08:55:31 9 4
bbc
“They’re a very good side still and we’ll have to be at our best to beat them.” Who said that yesterday? Steve Bruce, describing Sheff Utd. Last season, NUFC beat them 3-0 and 2-0. Anybody who wonders why Bruce is not rated by his team's supporters needs only to read his comments. He constantly lowers expectations and belittles the fans. The team play so deep they've forgotten how to attack.
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12/01/2021 09:36:46 11 1
bbc
To be fair, he can't exactly say "they're rubbish, we'll stick 5 past this mob of jokers". Standard media training. After every game, no matter who it is against, in the post match interview you'll always hear the same old "we knew it'd be a tough game" or "it's a difficult place to come" whether it's Liverpool or Luton.

I'm sure what he's saying in the dressing room is very different.
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12/01/2021 10:44:07 6 0
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Luton is a difficult place to want to come to, even if you’re not playing football!
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12/01/2021 11:09:10 2 0
bbc
If what he's saying in the dressing room is very different, why do his team play in such a negative, devoid-of-ambition way? Does he say: "Go out there, grab the initiative, overwhelm them with great teamwork and attacking intent"? Or does he say: "Keep it tight for as long as possible and we'll try to nick a goal"? If you still need a clue, tonight should provide one. The fans know what they see.
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Dex
12/01/2021 09:38:31 3 5
bbc
Absolutely astounded that the Blades have actually got a mention from BBC Salford.
It must be a very slow day in the office.
The biased beeb are consistent in ignoring the Steel City.
An example being Harry Maguire handing out food parcels in his home City recently and not a mention of it on here despite it being covered by local media.
An article on the mess at Wednesday would be welcome!
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12/01/2021 13:31:55 2 0
bbc
Clearing up the mess at Wednesday would be better, Dex. Cook in and allow him to get on with choosing players. As for Sheffield United, this could be their night, against a Newcastle United team short on confidence.
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12/01/2021 09:39:04 10 2
bbc
Ramsdale for Henderson is a swing of about minus 50 goals over a season. The gap between the midfield and forwards when they are attacking seems to have grown by about 20 yds this season too meaning they are very easy to defend against. Still stick with Wilder though as probably still be in League 1 if it wasn't for him and can't see anyone doing any better with the money and players available.
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12/01/2021 11:07:35 3 9
bbc
Henderson is the new Pickford.

Overrated English flop! I just hope he never saves a penalty at a world cup, otherwise he'll be guaranteed a starting place in the England's team for the next 5 years off the back of it!!
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12/01/2021 09:41:22 7 1
bbc
They did a great review on sky. This article seems like it was written by a child home schooling.
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12/01/2021 09:11:27 5 10
bbc
When will Newcastle fans realise that they are not a big team ,won nothing for years and probably never will unfortunately for them to much money at the top clubs and they must have paid Alan shearer god knows how much to play for them another player who only thinks about his bank account because he was never going to win a trophy with them.
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
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12/01/2021 09:46:14 3 1
bbc
kev2426 obviously a jealous mackem
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12/01/2021 09:15:37 1 2
bbc
Part of the problem is not the players that are there, as they are average at best, the manager is poor with obviously no direction for the team. But the owners are the biggest problem, failing to invest you can’t compete in PL unless you invest in quality, not buying cast offs that nobody else wants. WBA, Norwich, Fulham and Sheff Utd have failed to invest FACT
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hi
12/01/2021 09:48:20 3 0
bbc
Not sure it’s fair to accuse Wilder of being poor with no direction after 2 promotions and a brilliant first season back in the PL, with their style of play working brilliantly and actually entertaining to watch. Think you are right on the investment front though, too many of the players played out of their skins last season and understandably couldn’t match the same intensity levels this term.
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12/01/2021 11:47:58 0 0
bbc
Wilder has been successful everywhere he's been after his first job at Halifax Town, but they went into liquidation.
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12/01/2021 09:48:53 2 1
bbc
Weird how people are quick to criticise Bielsa but i've heard no murmurs of how Wilder needs to 'adapt' despite the fact they've 2 draws in 18 games and don't look like scoring in a month of Sundays.
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12/01/2021 12:03:44 0 2
bbc
People criticise Bielsa because he just needs to occasionally change from the 0-0-10 formation and Leeds would get more results to be a lot higher up in the table.
With Wilder, people just shrug, because EVERY department of that team needs "adapting".
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12/01/2021 09:05:57 2 1
bbc
They've got mcburnie and mcgoldrick who can't score for toffee, then went and spent £20m on Brewster who is totally unproven and looks just as useless. If you haven't got the money you won't last in the premiership.
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12/01/2021 09:51:37 6 0
bbc
It's not the money, it's making sure you spend it well. Teams can stay up on relatively low net spends, but they've gotta buy the right people.

Signing Brewster because Liverpool said he was good even though he's completely unproven in the Premier League is not a good investment. He's just joined a host of Liverpool "wonderkids" who've been proven to be bang average. Ibe, Solanke, Brewster...
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MOT
12/01/2021 09:53:09 3 6
bbc
Hope wilder stays, he is so arrogant and will not quit due uk his high wages. Money before club. Clueless and lost dressing room. Makes me laugh the muppet ????
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12/01/2021 10:25:43 2 0
bbc
snort
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12/01/2021 10:32:48 2 1
bbc
Didn’t you know, it’s not his fault at all. It’s all just bad luck.
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12/01/2021 09:57:12 2 1
bbc
I don't really remember the 2008 season, I'd just got into a new relationship so footy took a backseat during the honeymoon/rabbits period - so I can't recall how bad Derby actually were.

This Blades team therefore is easily the worst PL side I've ever witnessed. 2 points in 17 games is almost unthinkable. Crazy to think how the same squad were pushing for top 6 most of last season.
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12/01/2021 10:04:39 5 1
bbc
Allowing your love life to take priority over football...tut tut tut...
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12/01/2021 09:11:27 5 10
bbc
When will Newcastle fans realise that they are not a big team ,won nothing for years and probably never will unfortunately for them to much money at the top clubs and they must have paid Alan shearer god knows how much to play for them another player who only thinks about his bank account because he was never going to win a trophy with them.
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
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12/01/2021 09:59:19 2 2
bbc
You are dead right. He stayed far too long after injury meant he couldn’t run. Any other team would have shipped him out when he was 28 but he was indulged because of local hero status while always being highest paid. Other players had to do his running. Team was designed around a cf who couldn’t run and team atrophied around him. I’m from Newcastle and watched this happen.
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12/01/2021 10:09:16 1 0
bbc
They signed him when he was 27. For a world record fee. A bit unlikely they'd have ditched him a year later, local boy or not.
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12/01/2021 09:57:12 2 1
bbc
I don't really remember the 2008 season, I'd just got into a new relationship so footy took a backseat during the honeymoon/rabbits period - so I can't recall how bad Derby actually were.

This Blades team therefore is easily the worst PL side I've ever witnessed. 2 points in 17 games is almost unthinkable. Crazy to think how the same squad were pushing for top 6 most of last season.
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12/01/2021 10:04:39 5 1
bbc
Allowing your love life to take priority over football...tut tut tut...
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12/01/2021 11:33:08 1 0
bbc
Yes. Under the thumb! Welcome to the world of Cuckold ... I rather watch football.
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12/01/2021 08:36:33 6 6
bbc
Based on what evidence, and also irrelevant to this discussion. Last season SU scrapped some lucky wins along the way to a flattering league position, and whilst LUFC haven't been consistent, we have beaten some good teams, and thrashed the rubbish
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12/01/2021 10:08:33 1 0
bbc
The big test for Leeds - aside their occasional inconsistencies defending, is whether they will have the momentum all season or whether they will fade out around spring as they have the last several years. If they can build on this season and stay focused then they'll be fine. But otherwise it will depend on points accured NOW to cover the last few months. We'll wait and see.
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12/01/2021 09:59:19 2 2
bbc
You are dead right. He stayed far too long after injury meant he couldn’t run. Any other team would have shipped him out when he was 28 but he was indulged because of local hero status while always being highest paid. Other players had to do his running. Team was designed around a cf who couldn’t run and team atrophied around him. I’m from Newcastle and watched this happen.
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12/01/2021 10:09:16 1 0
bbc
They signed him when he was 27. For a world record fee. A bit unlikely they'd have ditched him a year later, local boy or not.
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12/01/2021 10:18:30 1 1
bbc
He suffered a bad injury and hobbled round for years afterwards. Man Utd would not have kept him as long. NUFC were unable to get rid of him because of his local hero status - but you can be certain that teams that were winning then like Man Utd and Chelsea would not have kept him. NUFC couldn’t replace him because of his name and by the time he retired the team was much diminished.
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12/01/2021 07:59:54 3 4
bbc
As a Brighotn fan, i have to say, we are the joke of the football league. Potter hasnt got a clue. We should be well below the blades right now. How these misfits have scraped together 14 points is beyond me. We spend most matches passing the ball backwards, you dont goals doing that - message to potter: sort it out before you get fired.
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12/01/2021 10:10:58 0 0
bbc
At least two of them were from a dodgy VAR decision v. Villa. Ironically similar last year when Villa had to score 3 to win 2-1 v Brighton. Not really Brighton's fault if the tech is garbage though.
Can't account for the rest - haven't been paying close attention, but didn't think Brighton that terrible overall.
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12/01/2021 10:12:19 2 0
bbc
I don't think they ever recovered from the pause/lockdown last year. Some teams benefitted and others didn't. Those who ended last year well began this one well, and vice versa. Sheff U didn't win much after the return, either. Forgetting Hawkeye, which was a one off fluke, the pause between the end of that and start of this season probably not enough for them to reset.
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12/01/2021 16:39:18 0 0
bbc
Leicester were rubbish end of last season and are not doing too bad this time. Tends to be teams that rely on work rate to get a result are struggling. Maybe the extra lift fans give them is the reason their results are now bad.
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12/01/2021 06:43:55 172 4
bbc
I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.

But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
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12/01/2021 10:12:45 1 0
bbc
The only defending champions ever to be relegated too. We came within three points of joining them in 1993.
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12/01/2021 07:49:17 14 2
bbc
WBA SU Burnley and Fulham need home town support + cold wet weather to cover their limitations. The covid break hurt SU as the top teams got 10 weeks break hot temps hard and fast grounds and empty stadiums. The season just died after the resumption. This suited Arsenal's touch players who beat teams who had stopped playing. Empty stadiums makes it difficult to take football seriously.
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12/01/2021 10:13:04 0 1
bbc
Definitely true that some teams have benefitted from no fans and some have not. The promoted teams, generally, have not...though Fulham have improved.
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12/01/2021 10:15:39 1 1
bbc
Bad.. ??????
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Ian
12/01/2021 10:15:47 6 0
bbc
To all Blades fans from a Mag.

Don't worry about comparison with Derby (Rooney's Derby?). They were unbelievably bad but still managed to take 4 points off us. Your season starts tonight.

Can't wait to see what tactics these 2 teams deploy. Could be the first PL game with zero attempts on goal!

Looking forward to a cure for my insomnia.
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12/01/2021 16:23:08 1 0
bbc
This is definitely a game that's only worth watching to see how bad/good it's going to be. First game with 0 shots on target and the whole game played around the halfway line or 5 all.
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12/01/2021 09:27:14 9 3
bbc
He could have gone elsewhere, had more money and medals but he stayed loyal to the club he loves, i admire him for that. Ps im not a gordie or newcastle fan
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12/01/2021 10:17:52 1 1
bbc
Spot on, could have gone to United a couple of times and won a shed load of medals, but stayed loyal to his hometown club. Absolute legend and a great double act with Wrighty on motd
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12/01/2021 10:21:00 1 1
bbc
You must be joking. If those two walked into my local pub I’d put my house up for sale.
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12/01/2021 13:27:09 0 0
bbc
He did go to United, Andrew... Newcastle United! The team based in Trafford aren't even the original 'United' either.
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12/01/2021 10:09:16 1 0
bbc
They signed him when he was 27. For a world record fee. A bit unlikely they'd have ditched him a year later, local boy or not.
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12/01/2021 10:18:30 1 1
bbc
He suffered a bad injury and hobbled round for years afterwards. Man Utd would not have kept him as long. NUFC were unable to get rid of him because of his local hero status - but you can be certain that teams that were winning then like Man Utd and Chelsea would not have kept him. NUFC couldn’t replace him because of his name and by the time he retired the team was much diminished.
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12/01/2021 10:19:56 3 1
bbc
If you look at the table upside down it's been a great season for them
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12/01/2021 14:40:25 0 0
bbc
Spare a thought for Looprevil and Detinu Retsehcnam though. Looks like they're getting relegated
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12/01/2021 10:20:12 7 3
bbc
Sheff Utd are exactly where they deserve to be this season due to a shocking lack of tactical ambition week in and week out from the manager.

Set up to try and try and avoid losing and you will rarely ever win.
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12/01/2021 10:20:24 6 2
bbc
As a Chesterfield based Leeds fan I am well-hated by Blades fans, but despite that I do feel for them & visit Bramall Lane whenever I can. Great atmos, great fans & have seen some great games there. Hope they stay up but seems a lost cause. No need to replace Wilder unless they don't come straight back. & Bramall Lane is easily the best pre-match drink in the league. Fortunately that won't change.
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12/01/2021 10:23:05 6 6
bbc
I don’t know if you’ve noticed but Bramall Lane has been closed for 8 months.
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12/01/2021 10:17:52 1 1
bbc
Spot on, could have gone to United a couple of times and won a shed load of medals, but stayed loyal to his hometown club. Absolute legend and a great double act with Wrighty on motd
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12/01/2021 10:21:00 1 1
bbc
You must be joking. If those two walked into my local pub I’d put my house up for sale.
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12/01/2021 10:22:09 4 2
bbc
I'm a big SU fan. Whilst this season has been awful to watch, I'm glad (and hopeful) that CW has/will stay(ed). He still has the dressing room, and the owners have the good sense that he's the best fit for us. We have to admit our play going forward has been poor, but combined with key injuries (O'Connell), losing Henderson, and some genuine bad luck and this is what happens in the PL.
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12/01/2021 10:29:51 4 1
bbc
Sick of hearing about the ‘bad luck’ tbh. Needs to start taking responsibility.
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12/01/2021 10:20:24 6 2
bbc
As a Chesterfield based Leeds fan I am well-hated by Blades fans, but despite that I do feel for them & visit Bramall Lane whenever I can. Great atmos, great fans & have seen some great games there. Hope they stay up but seems a lost cause. No need to replace Wilder unless they don't come straight back. & Bramall Lane is easily the best pre-match drink in the league. Fortunately that won't change.
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12/01/2021 10:23:05 6 6
bbc
I don’t know if you’ve noticed but Bramall Lane has been closed for 8 months.
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12/01/2021 10:24:39 11 3
bbc
Pink shirts bound to lead to problems
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12/01/2021 10:26:30 14 1
bbc
Not enough investment in a decent washing machine.
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12/01/2021 17:51:33 1 0
bbc
Nothing against pink per se but it's a curious choice of away kit when your home kit is red and white!
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MOT
12/01/2021 09:53:09 3 6
bbc
Hope wilder stays, he is so arrogant and will not quit due uk his high wages. Money before club. Clueless and lost dressing room. Makes me laugh the muppet ????
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12/01/2021 10:25:43 2 0
bbc
snort
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12/01/2021 10:24:39 11 3
bbc
Pink shirts bound to lead to problems
96
12/01/2021 10:26:30 14 1
bbc
Not enough investment in a decent washing machine.
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12/01/2021 11:23:48 1 0
bbc
Or too hot wash cycle and the stripes merged, lol
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12/01/2021 10:29:17 11 1
bbc
Could be worse SU could have Allardyce in charge. At least they're not that desperate.
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12/01/2021 11:37:53 5 1
bbc
Let's revisit this at the end of the season ??
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12/01/2021 10:22:09 4 2
bbc
I'm a big SU fan. Whilst this season has been awful to watch, I'm glad (and hopeful) that CW has/will stay(ed). He still has the dressing room, and the owners have the good sense that he's the best fit for us. We have to admit our play going forward has been poor, but combined with key injuries (O'Connell), losing Henderson, and some genuine bad luck and this is what happens in the PL.
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12/01/2021 10:29:51 4 1
bbc
Sick of hearing about the ‘bad luck’ tbh. Needs to start taking responsibility.
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12/01/2021 07:59:54 3 4
bbc
As a Brighotn fan, i have to say, we are the joke of the football league. Potter hasnt got a clue. We should be well below the blades right now. How these misfits have scraped together 14 points is beyond me. We spend most matches passing the ball backwards, you dont goals doing that - message to potter: sort it out before you get fired.
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12/01/2021 10:32:22 0 0
bbc
As a saints fan living near Brighton I do feel your pain, after poch we went backwards and had to suffer 3 years of 70% possession 1 shot on target football...I honestly nearly stopped watching it was that bad..I dont think Potter is up to the Job personally...very hard to watch and you dont create enough chances
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MOT
12/01/2021 09:53:09 3 6
bbc
Hope wilder stays, he is so arrogant and will not quit due uk his high wages. Money before club. Clueless and lost dressing room. Makes me laugh the muppet ????
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12/01/2021 10:32:48 2 1
bbc
Didn’t you know, it’s not his fault at all. It’s all just bad luck.