Just how bad has Sheffield United's season been?
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Without a win in the league so far in 2020-21, how bad has Sheffield United's season been?
Thinking back to that terrible Derby team, their only win of the season was against Newcastle (who Sheffield United play tonight). They also managed a draw against Newcastle in the 2nd game, so four of their 11 points came against one team.
As a Newcastle fan living in Derby at the time it was less than ideal.
As a Newcastle fan living in Derby at the time it was less than ideal.
also Derby lost 9 games by 1-0 and a further 6 by 1goal games which could have gone either way i think newcastle and fulham were the only teams not to have beaten derby that season
Was thinking exactly the same thing, the omens are not looking good for Newcastle tonight!
Give me the lottery numbers?
Swindon in 42 games conceded 100 goals at 2.38 per game.
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.
So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.
Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.
So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.
Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
Was about to post this. Pretty poor from an analysis article.
Tarquin must have been on the champagne early
I wouldn't mind, but they didn't even have to fact check it, just use a calculator!
I'm sure their swanky iPhones have one... Don't they?
I'm sure their swanky iPhones have one... Don't they?
It's a shame that didn't do it on goal difference, as Swindon scored a whopping 47 goals that season, so only finished on -53.
Derby finished on -69 with only 20 scored. I think Derby shade on all round woeful performance in the premier league.
Derby finished on -69 with only 20 scored. I think Derby shade on all round woeful performance in the premier league.
"Swindon in 42 games conceded 100 goals at 2.38 per game."
But only because we got a lot of dodgy refereeing decisions! LOL.
But only because we got a lot of dodgy refereeing decisions! LOL.
I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
One of my favourite bits of footballing pub ammo that. Great fact.
And the only title winners to get relegated the next season. Something Leicester looked like emulating for a worrying few weeks in 16/17.
Also in 1937 we were champions.
The only defending champions ever to be relegated too. We came within three points of joining them in 1993.
Wow, wasn't aware of that! Just checked out the table, astonishing season. Only 16 points separated top from bottom! I know it was 2 points for a win but still!!
Arsenal play in their distinctive famous red shirts with white arms as the original kit was donated by Nottingham Forest.
I know it is very annoying, the Legacy Media are just imbecilic, Many years of top Division Football occurred pre Premier league and it is that which should be counted, top Division not the dumbass Premier league only.
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That is a great stat.
Huddersfield Town’s Div 1 title win in 1923-24 was and remains the narrowest top flight title win ever, by 0.024 of a goal over second placed Cardiff City.
In their final games, Cardiff City only needed to draw to win the title and Huddersfield Town needed to win by 3-0 to deny Cardiff the title.
Cardiff City drew 0-0 with Birmingham City and Huddersfield Town won 3-0 v Nottingham Forest.
In their final games, Cardiff City only needed to draw to win the title and Huddersfield Town needed to win by 3-0 to deny Cardiff the title.
Cardiff City drew 0-0 with Birmingham City and Huddersfield Town won 3-0 v Nottingham Forest.
Great stat. What it also demonstrates is the downside of the PL.
We've seen some world stars here that we otherwise wouldn't and some great football but as a real competition it is sadly lacking.
Mid 60s to mid 70s. Eight different winners of the old Div 1.
We've seen some world stars here that we otherwise wouldn't and some great football but as a real competition it is sadly lacking.
Mid 60s to mid 70s. Eight different winners of the old Div 1.
As a Brighton fan, thank goodness. As a football fan, stay up with us!
Thinking back to that terrible Derby team, their only win of the season was against Newcastle (who Sheffield United play tonight). They also managed a draw against Newcastle in the 2nd game, so four of their 11 points came against one team.
As a Newcastle fan living in Derby at the time it was less than ideal.
As a Newcastle fan living in Derby at the time it was less than ideal.
I recall hearing the fans singing "Can we play you every week". If only! Kenny Millers winning goal whilst great, was very speculative from the half way line and therefore somewhat lucky (or well taken?), We didn't lack players with ability to stay up that year, they just constantly failed to turn up on a match day! Hoping Utd will steal our record but can't see it ever being beaten.
Swindon in 42 games conceded 100 goals at 2.38 per game.
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.
So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.
Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.
So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.
Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
It is a good one, others I like are:
Arsenal's heaviest ever defeat was against the mighty Loughborough
Nelson FC, currently in the North West Counites league, were the first English club to play Real Madrid, and they won.
Mark Hughes once played 2 matches in the same day, for Wales and Bayern Munich.
Arsenal's heaviest ever defeat was against the mighty Loughborough
Nelson FC, currently in the North West Counites league, were the first English club to play Real Madrid, and they won.
Mark Hughes once played 2 matches in the same day, for Wales and Bayern Munich.
I hope you have a good memory to remember that one when we can go back to the pub
Even as a Derby fan I hope Sheff Utd can turn it around, especially after last season's heroics. I suspect they have more fight in them than we did and Derby's dismal record will be preserved.
As a Ram, I do not want them to turn it around ??
Tha lack of fans inside Bramhall Lane, plus some terrible luck, has done for the Blades. It's a shame, they were great last season up until the lockdown. Bramhall Lane was an absolute cauldron, I watched a few teams go there and be under siege for the first half an hour, Man United couldn't get out of their own penalty area and were 2-0 down before they came back alive.
Like Norwich last season.
They will no doubt blame West Ham and Tevez!! ????
You don’t lose 15 out of 17 games due to bad luck. “Luck” is a random event and will probably even itself out over a season.
You lose 15 games because your not very good.
You lose 15 games because your not very good.
WBA SU Burnley and Fulham need home town support + cold wet weather to cover their limitations. The covid break hurt SU as the top teams got 10 weeks break hot temps hard and fast grounds and empty stadiums. The season just died after the resumption. This suited Arsenal's touch players who beat teams who had stopped playing. Empty stadiums makes it difficult to take football seriously.
Definitely true that some teams have benefitted from no fans and some have not. The promoted teams, generally, have not...though Fulham have improved.
Things go against you in games when you're struggling and that's certainly been the Blades story this season.
When you watch them play, their League position is false, they're a solid team just undone by a mixture of bad luck and occasional but costly individual errors.
Confidence continues to drain though and that's got to be the biggest concern - "losing is a difficult habit to break"
When you watch them play, their League position is false, they're a solid team just undone by a mixture of bad luck and occasional but costly individual errors.
Confidence continues to drain though and that's got to be the biggest concern - "losing is a difficult habit to break"
The league table doesn't lie, unless refs are biased towards you (which they aren't for SHU).
they've lost 11 of their 15 games by just the 1 goal and beat Chelsea & Tottenham 3-0 & 3-1 in July so they obviously arent as woeful as that Derby side were but they need goals and to go on an unbeaten run urgently
During Derby's dire season & in desperate need of quality reinforcements they bought Robbie Savage in the January transfer window!
During Derby's dire season & in desperate need of quality reinforcements they bought Robbie Savage in the January transfer window!
As a Brighotn fan, i have to say, we are the joke of the football league. Potter hasnt got a clue. We should be well below the blades right now. How these misfits have scraped together 14 points is beyond me. We spend most matches passing the ball backwards, you dont goals doing that - message to potter: sort it out before you get fired.
At least two of them were from a dodgy VAR decision v. Villa. Ironically similar last year when Villa had to score 3 to win 2-1 v Brighton. Not really Brighton's fault if the tech is garbage though.
Can't account for the rest - haven't been paying close attention, but didn't think Brighton that terrible overall.
Can't account for the rest - haven't been paying close attention, but didn't think Brighton that terrible overall.
As a saints fan living near Brighton I do feel your pain, after poch we went backwards and had to suffer 3 years of 70% possession 1 shot on target football...I honestly nearly stopped watching it was that bad..I dont think Potter is up to the Job personally...very hard to watch and you dont create enough chances
Doubt you're a Brighton fan! Alternatively you haven't been watching them or you know nothing about good football, the only thing missing at Brighton is a prolific goal scorer and sick note Lalana ??
If one were to look at Sheffield United's results one will soon notice how many games they have lost by the odd goal. All they need is a little bit of luck, a little bit more concentration, a little bit of good fortune and a little bit more determination and resolve and I genuinely believe the upturn in results will come.
Swindon in 42 games conceded 100 goals at 2.38 per game.
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.
So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.
Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
Derby in 38 games conceded 89 goals at 2.34 per game.
So Swindon have the worst defensive record in PL history.
Is that calculation to difficult for the BBC ?
Never off it by some of the Articles being released all over the Sports pages.
I disagree with most post here, when you watch them play you can see exactly why they are where they are, no ambition in their tactics for 2 seasons now and I am glad it is now reflected in their league position
yeah agree, it's hard to score when you won't put the ball in the box.
As a Brighotn fan, i have to say, we are the joke of the football league. Potter hasnt got a clue. We should be well below the blades right now. How these misfits have scraped together 14 points is beyond me. We spend most matches passing the ball backwards, you dont goals doing that - message to potter: sort it out before you get fired.
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There is no silver bullet for Sheffield United.
They are in a downward spiral so something needs to change, and quickly.
The most immediate solution would be to introduce new players in the January window.
Perhaps oversimplistic but it seems that as they have a solid defence the problem is upfront.
So they should put all their eggs in one basket and go all-out for a proven goalscorer.
They are in a downward spiral so something needs to change, and quickly.
The most immediate solution would be to introduce new players in the January window.
Perhaps oversimplistic but it seems that as they have a solid defence the problem is upfront.
So they should put all their eggs in one basket and go all-out for a proven goalscorer.
The problem is who would go there? Who could they afford?
I'd take a punt on Glenn Murry and tell the rest of the lads that their wages will be docked every time they don't put the ball in the box, instead passing it back to the goal keeper
I'd take a punt on Glenn Murry and tell the rest of the lads that their wages will be docked every time they don't put the ball in the box, instead passing it back to the goal keeper
The fact that all the pundits are still giving Wilder (deserved) praise for what he has achieved as Blades manager before this season & refusing to crucify him for current results may well be contributing to the Blades run of poor form
It means that all pressure & scrutiny remains on the players If the press blamed Wilder all the players would become determined to help their boss & give extra 10%
It means that all pressure & scrutiny remains on the players If the press blamed Wilder all the players would become determined to help their boss & give extra 10%
I don't think you understand the implications that sacking Wilder would have. If anything, it would just further demoralise them. Even if their fate is sealed, better to keep wilder so he can steer them towards a promotion push, rather than bringing in someone who will leave them in midtable of the championship at best. Wilder has done an excellent job and one bad season doesn't change that.
Embarrassingly, hilariously bad, that's how bad its been. Long may it continue.
The fact that all the pundits are still giving Wilder (deserved) praise for what he has achieved as Blades manager before this season & refusing to crucify him for current results may well be contributing to the Blades run of poor form
It means that all pressure & scrutiny remains on the players If the press blamed Wilder all the players would become determined to help their boss & give extra 10%
It means that all pressure & scrutiny remains on the players If the press blamed Wilder all the players would become determined to help their boss & give extra 10%
I don't think you understand the implications that sacking Wilder would have. If anything, it would just further demoralise them. Even if their fate is sealed, better to keep wilder so he can steer them towards a promotion push, rather than bringing in someone who will leave them in midtable of the championship at best. Wilder has done an excellent job and one bad season doesn't change that.
Also been smashed a few times as well. Leeds are a very entertaining team. Score plenty concede plenty. Problem is if they stop scoring, cannot see them keeping many clean sheets. Bielsa like Wilder is stubborn. Doesnt change his tactics, sticks to the mantra. In your first season back it will work but those cemented Prem clubs learn fast and it doesnt work the following season.
The big test for Leeds - aside their occasional inconsistencies defending, is whether they will have the momentum all season or whether they will fade out around spring as they have the last several years. If they can build on this season and stay focused then they'll be fine. But otherwise it will depend on points accured NOW to cover the last few months. We'll wait and see.
Don't worry, they've got us (Newcastle) tonight, we were nice enough to give Derby 4 of their points so I'm sure Sheff Utd will do something similar with the tactical masterclass from Bruce coming up.
derby should have had 6 points from newcasle that season winning 1-09 at home and drawing 2-2 away after leading twice, newcastle getting a lucky late equaliser
Newcastle fans will jsut never accept Bruce will they? He's doing just as well as Rafa had done. For a club that's done literally nothing for 67 years, their fans have a very inflated sense of entitlement.
Damn right.
If one were to look at Sheffield United's results one will soon notice how many games they have lost by the odd goal. All they need is a little bit of luck, a little bit more concentration, a little bit of good fortune and a little bit more determination and resolve and I genuinely believe the upturn in results will come.
Tarquin must have been on the champagne early
I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
Laughable all the comments about bad luck etc, they have played 17 games and won none of them, that is shocking.
They have been found out by better teams with better players whilst still riding the crest of last seasons wave, seen it all before, remember Ipswich under George Burley.
Wilder is a good manager not a great one and is out of his depth at the minute, think they are down.
They have been found out by better teams with better players whilst still riding the crest of last seasons wave, seen it all before, remember Ipswich under George Burley.
Wilder is a good manager not a great one and is out of his depth at the minute, think they are down.
I don't think they've really changed how they're playing. Last season it was a novelty so teams found it difficult against them. This season they've worked it out so the Blades have been found out.
“They’re a very good side still and we’ll have to be at our best to beat them.” Who said that yesterday? Steve Bruce, describing Sheff Utd. Last season, NUFC beat them 3-0 and 2-0. Anybody who wonders why Bruce is not rated by his team's supporters needs only to read his comments. He constantly lowers expectations and belittles the fans. The team play so deep they've forgotten how to attack.
To be fair, he can't exactly say "they're rubbish, we'll stick 5 past this mob of jokers". Standard media training. After every game, no matter who it is against, in the post match interview you'll always hear the same old "we knew it'd be a tough game" or "it's a difficult place to come" whether it's Liverpool or Luton.
I'm sure what he's saying in the dressing room is very different.
I'm sure what he's saying in the dressing room is very different.
Don't worry they have to play Newcastle twice yet for starters
The problem Sheff Utd have is that they have a championship squad of players and too small a wages structure to really compete. Even their big money signings this season are middle to top end Championship standard. Last season was a remarkable effort using tactics that surprised many teams.
The same tactics were highly unlikely to work again this season. Henderson & O'Connell are big misses.
The same tactics were highly unlikely to work again this season. Henderson & O'Connell are big misses.
How can I apply for a job in the BBC sports department?
Money for old rope.
Money for old rope.
They've got mcburnie and mcgoldrick who can't score for toffee, then went and spent £20m on Brewster who is totally unproven and looks just as useless. If you haven't got the money you won't last in the premiership.
It's not the money, it's making sure you spend it well. Teams can stay up on relatively low net spends, but they've gotta buy the right people.
Signing Brewster because Liverpool said he was good even though he's completely unproven in the Premier League is not a good investment. He's just joined a host of Liverpool "wonderkids" who've been proven to be bang average. Ibe, Solanke, Brewster...
Signing Brewster because Liverpool said he was good even though he's completely unproven in the Premier League is not a good investment. He's just joined a host of Liverpool "wonderkids" who've been proven to be bang average. Ibe, Solanke, Brewster...
United's most consistent player over the past three years, Jack O'Connell, has been out for nearly all the season, so that's hurt the team defensively. They've actually got more shots on target per game than last season, but a mixture of injuries, bad luck and poor refereeing decisions cost them at the start of the season.
Don't worry SU.
Lawro has predicted you a win
Lawro has predicted you a win
Sheff Utd should stick with Wilder. Having 2 seasons in the Premier League is a bonus.
They will inevitably get relegated so replacing Wilder now will achieve nothing. Who would you try and employ for a Championship promotion push when that happens - Chris Wilder.
Norwich are showing what can be done keeping some consistency. They will inevitably go up this season and have another go.
They will inevitably get relegated so replacing Wilder now will achieve nothing. Who would you try and employ for a Championship promotion push when that happens - Chris Wilder.
Norwich are showing what can be done keeping some consistency. They will inevitably go up this season and have another go.
Perfectly put - in the last few years several relegated teams have proven that sticking with the manager and keeping stability is the best way to go
I'm a Norwich fan, yeah we'll probably go up and come straight back down again. It's all we've got though because we can't compete financially. The loophole here is the parachute payments. Should Sheff Utd go down they'll more than likely come up again, though a relegation finishing bottom with barely any points is likely morale sapping.
When will Newcastle fans realise that they are not a big team ,won nothing for years and probably never will unfortunately for them to much money at the top clubs and they must have paid Alan shearer god knows how much to play for them another player who only thinks about his bank account because he was never going to win a trophy with them.
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
He could have gone elsewhere, had more money and medals but he stayed loyal to the club he loves, i admire him for that. Ps im not a gordie or newcastle fan
kev2426 obviously a jealous mackem
You are dead right. He stayed far too long after injury meant he couldn’t run. Any other team would have shipped him out when he was 28 but he was indulged because of local hero status while always being highest paid. Other players had to do his running. Team was designed around a cf who couldn’t run and team atrophied around him. I’m from Newcastle and watched this happen.
They're not a big team, but they are a big club!
Part of the problem is not the players that are there, as they are average at best, the manager is poor with obviously no direction for the team. But the owners are the biggest problem, failing to invest you can’t compete in PL unless you invest in quality, not buying cast offs that nobody else wants. WBA, Norwich, Fulham and Sheff Utd have failed to invest FACT
Not sure it’s fair to accuse Wilder of being poor with no direction after 2 promotions and a brilliant first season back in the PL, with their style of play working brilliantly and actually entertaining to watch. Think you are right on the investment front though, too many of the players played out of their skins last season and understandably couldn’t match the same intensity levels this term.
Also been smashed a few times as well. Leeds are a very entertaining team. Score plenty concede plenty. Problem is if they stop scoring, cannot see them keeping many clean sheets. Bielsa like Wilder is stubborn. Doesnt change his tactics, sticks to the mantra. In your first season back it will work but those cemented Prem clubs learn fast and it doesnt work the following season.
If you're one of players who got them promoted and stay up last season to then see the hideously overpriced and overrated Ramsdale and Brewster arrive, you'd be smarting. Did they need to spend so big when only tweaks were required?
At an admittedly different level CW did the same at my team Oxford when he got us promoted. He learned from that and he'll have to do the same again at the Blades.
At an admittedly different level CW did the same at my team Oxford when he got us promoted. He learned from that and he'll have to do the same again at the Blades.
To be fair, regarding the keeper situation he had to spend because their keeper went back after loan. As for Brewster, the team didn't score enough last season and Billy Sharp is nearing the end so it was s replacement with bags of potential and potentially many years left at his prime. If anything he should have more and strengthened more positions
Pretty odds on to go down. But financially that is not a disaster at all. Those parachute payments - lovely. Nor have they over extended themslves in the transfer market. Wilder has been on the wrong end of bad luck and plain bad refereeing decisions. Can't fault his team for effort and spirit. Stick with Wilder and gently strengthen the team. From a MCFC fan.
When will Newcastle fans realise that they are not a big team ,won nothing for years and probably never will unfortunately for them to much money at the top clubs and they must have paid Alan shearer god knows how much to play for them another player who only thinks about his bank account because he was never going to win a trophy with them.
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
Spot on, could have gone to United a couple of times and won a shed load of medals, but stayed loyal to his hometown club. Absolute legend and a great double act with Wrighty on motd
I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
2 points better than FusterCluck and 10 points short of Hope.
Blunt Blades: Chamionship 2021-22. We all know that.
Blunt Blades: Chamionship 2021-22. We all know that.
I always believe there is a 2nd season syndrome for clubs who came up and who did well in 1st season but struggle in the 2nd.
This is because majority of their squad (With Sheff) do not have vast experience of PL level and played above their best which caught many teams out in 1st 2/3 of season.
As 2nd season started, Sheff didn't invest in real PL quality and relied on same squad to do the same
This is because majority of their squad (With Sheff) do not have vast experience of PL level and played above their best which caught many teams out in 1st 2/3 of season.
As 2nd season started, Sheff didn't invest in real PL quality and relied on same squad to do the same
“They’re a very good side still and we’ll have to be at our best to beat them.” Who said that yesterday? Steve Bruce, describing Sheff Utd. Last season, NUFC beat them 3-0 and 2-0. Anybody who wonders why Bruce is not rated by his team's supporters needs only to read his comments. He constantly lowers expectations and belittles the fans. The team play so deep they've forgotten how to attack.
To be fair, he can't exactly say "they're rubbish, we'll stick 5 past this mob of jokers". Standard media training. After every game, no matter who it is against, in the post match interview you'll always hear the same old "we knew it'd be a tough game" or "it's a difficult place to come" whether it's Liverpool or Luton.
I'm sure what he's saying in the dressing room is very different.
I'm sure what he's saying in the dressing room is very different.
Luton is a difficult place to want to come to, even if you’re not playing football!
If what he's saying in the dressing room is very different, why do his team play in such a negative, devoid-of-ambition way? Does he say: "Go out there, grab the initiative, overwhelm them with great teamwork and attacking intent"? Or does he say: "Keep it tight for as long as possible and we'll try to nick a goal"? If you still need a clue, tonight should provide one. The fans know what they see.
Absolutely astounded that the Blades have actually got a mention from BBC Salford.
It must be a very slow day in the office.
The biased beeb are consistent in ignoring the Steel City.
An example being Harry Maguire handing out food parcels in his home City recently and not a mention of it on here despite it being covered by local media.
An article on the mess at Wednesday would be welcome!
It must be a very slow day in the office.
The biased beeb are consistent in ignoring the Steel City.
An example being Harry Maguire handing out food parcels in his home City recently and not a mention of it on here despite it being covered by local media.
An article on the mess at Wednesday would be welcome!
Ramsdale for Henderson is a swing of about minus 50 goals over a season. The gap between the midfield and forwards when they are attacking seems to have grown by about 20 yds this season too meaning they are very easy to defend against. Still stick with Wilder though as probably still be in League 1 if it wasn't for him and can't see anyone doing any better with the money and players available.
They did a great review on sky. This article seems like it was written by a child home schooling.
When will Newcastle fans realise that they are not a big team ,won nothing for years and probably never will unfortunately for them to much money at the top clubs and they must have paid Alan shearer god knows how much to play for them another player who only thinks about his bank account because he was never going to win a trophy with them.
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
Part of the problem is not the players that are there, as they are average at best, the manager is poor with obviously no direction for the team. But the owners are the biggest problem, failing to invest you can’t compete in PL unless you invest in quality, not buying cast offs that nobody else wants. WBA, Norwich, Fulham and Sheff Utd have failed to invest FACT
Not sure it’s fair to accuse Wilder of being poor with no direction after 2 promotions and a brilliant first season back in the PL, with their style of play working brilliantly and actually entertaining to watch. Think you are right on the investment front though, too many of the players played out of their skins last season and understandably couldn’t match the same intensity levels this term.
Wilder has been successful everywhere he's been after his first job at Halifax Town, but they went into liquidation.
Weird how people are quick to criticise Bielsa but i've heard no murmurs of how Wilder needs to 'adapt' despite the fact they've 2 draws in 18 games and don't look like scoring in a month of Sundays.
They've got mcburnie and mcgoldrick who can't score for toffee, then went and spent £20m on Brewster who is totally unproven and looks just as useless. If you haven't got the money you won't last in the premiership.
It's not the money, it's making sure you spend it well. Teams can stay up on relatively low net spends, but they've gotta buy the right people.
Signing Brewster because Liverpool said he was good even though he's completely unproven in the Premier League is not a good investment. He's just joined a host of Liverpool "wonderkids" who've been proven to be bang average. Ibe, Solanke, Brewster...
Signing Brewster because Liverpool said he was good even though he's completely unproven in the Premier League is not a good investment. He's just joined a host of Liverpool "wonderkids" who've been proven to be bang average. Ibe, Solanke, Brewster...
Hope wilder stays, he is so arrogant and will not quit due uk his high wages. Money before club. Clueless and lost dressing room. Makes me laugh the muppet ????
I don't really remember the 2008 season, I'd just got into a new relationship so footy took a backseat during the honeymoon/rabbits period - so I can't recall how bad Derby actually were.
This Blades team therefore is easily the worst PL side I've ever witnessed. 2 points in 17 games is almost unthinkable. Crazy to think how the same squad were pushing for top 6 most of last season.
This Blades team therefore is easily the worst PL side I've ever witnessed. 2 points in 17 games is almost unthinkable. Crazy to think how the same squad were pushing for top 6 most of last season.
When will Newcastle fans realise that they are not a big team ,won nothing for years and probably never will unfortunately for them to much money at the top clubs and they must have paid Alan shearer god knows how much to play for them another player who only thinks about his bank account because he was never going to win a trophy with them.
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
As for SU it so long farewell as the song goes
You are dead right. He stayed far too long after injury meant he couldn’t run. Any other team would have shipped him out when he was 28 but he was indulged because of local hero status while always being highest paid. Other players had to do his running. Team was designed around a cf who couldn’t run and team atrophied around him. I’m from Newcastle and watched this happen.
I don't really remember the 2008 season, I'd just got into a new relationship so footy took a backseat during the honeymoon/rabbits period - so I can't recall how bad Derby actually were.
This Blades team therefore is easily the worst PL side I've ever witnessed. 2 points in 17 games is almost unthinkable. Crazy to think how the same squad were pushing for top 6 most of last season.
This Blades team therefore is easily the worst PL side I've ever witnessed. 2 points in 17 games is almost unthinkable. Crazy to think how the same squad were pushing for top 6 most of last season.
Yes. Under the thumb! Welcome to the world of Cuckold ... I rather watch football.
The big test for Leeds - aside their occasional inconsistencies defending, is whether they will have the momentum all season or whether they will fade out around spring as they have the last several years. If they can build on this season and stay focused then they'll be fine. But otherwise it will depend on points accured NOW to cover the last few months. We'll wait and see.
You are dead right. He stayed far too long after injury meant he couldn’t run. Any other team would have shipped him out when he was 28 but he was indulged because of local hero status while always being highest paid. Other players had to do his running. Team was designed around a cf who couldn’t run and team atrophied around him. I’m from Newcastle and watched this happen.
He suffered a bad injury and hobbled round for years afterwards. Man Utd would not have kept him as long. NUFC were unable to get rid of him because of his local hero status - but you can be certain that teams that were winning then like Man Utd and Chelsea would not have kept him. NUFC couldn’t replace him because of his name and by the time he retired the team was much diminished.
As a Brighotn fan, i have to say, we are the joke of the football league. Potter hasnt got a clue. We should be well below the blades right now. How these misfits have scraped together 14 points is beyond me. We spend most matches passing the ball backwards, you dont goals doing that - message to potter: sort it out before you get fired.
At least two of them were from a dodgy VAR decision v. Villa. Ironically similar last year when Villa had to score 3 to win 2-1 v Brighton. Not really Brighton's fault if the tech is garbage though.
Can't account for the rest - haven't been paying close attention, but didn't think Brighton that terrible overall.
Can't account for the rest - haven't been paying close attention, but didn't think Brighton that terrible overall.
I don't think they ever recovered from the pause/lockdown last year. Some teams benefitted and others didn't. Those who ended last year well began this one well, and vice versa. Sheff U didn't win much after the return, either. Forgetting Hawkeye, which was a one off fluke, the pause between the end of that and start of this season probably not enough for them to reset.
Leicester were rubbish end of last season and are not doing too bad this time. Tends to be teams that rely on work rate to get a result are struggling. Maybe the extra lift fans give them is the reason their results are now bad.
I know the media wont acknowledge that football existed before 1992.
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
But in 1938,Man City were the top scoring side in Division 1with 80 goals,had a goal difference of + 3 and still got relegated !
WBA SU Burnley and Fulham need home town support + cold wet weather to cover their limitations. The covid break hurt SU as the top teams got 10 weeks break hot temps hard and fast grounds and empty stadiums. The season just died after the resumption. This suited Arsenal's touch players who beat teams who had stopped playing. Empty stadiums makes it difficult to take football seriously.
To all Blades fans from a Mag.
Don't worry about comparison with Derby (Rooney's Derby?). They were unbelievably bad but still managed to take 4 points off us. Your season starts tonight.
Can't wait to see what tactics these 2 teams deploy. Could be the first PL game with zero attempts on goal!
Looking forward to a cure for my insomnia.
Don't worry about comparison with Derby (Rooney's Derby?). They were unbelievably bad but still managed to take 4 points off us. Your season starts tonight.
Can't wait to see what tactics these 2 teams deploy. Could be the first PL game with zero attempts on goal!
Looking forward to a cure for my insomnia.
This is definitely a game that's only worth watching to see how bad/good it's going to be. First game with 0 shots on target and the whole game played around the halfway line or 5 all.
He suffered a bad injury and hobbled round for years afterwards. Man Utd would not have kept him as long. NUFC were unable to get rid of him because of his local hero status - but you can be certain that teams that were winning then like Man Utd and Chelsea would not have kept him. NUFC couldn’t replace him because of his name and by the time he retired the team was much diminished.
If you look at the table upside down it's been a great season for them
Spare a thought for Looprevil and Detinu Retsehcnam though. Looks like they're getting relegated
As a Chesterfield based Leeds fan I am well-hated by Blades fans, but despite that I do feel for them & visit Bramall Lane whenever I can. Great atmos, great fans & have seen some great games there. Hope they stay up but seems a lost cause. No need to replace Wilder unless they don't come straight back. & Bramall Lane is easily the best pre-match drink in the league. Fortunately that won't change.
Spot on, could have gone to United a couple of times and won a shed load of medals, but stayed loyal to his hometown club. Absolute legend and a great double act with Wrighty on motd
I'm a big SU fan. Whilst this season has been awful to watch, I'm glad (and hopeful) that CW has/will stay(ed). He still has the dressing room, and the owners have the good sense that he's the best fit for us. We have to admit our play going forward has been poor, but combined with key injuries (O'Connell), losing Henderson, and some genuine bad luck and this is what happens in the PL.
Sick of hearing about the ‘bad luck’ tbh. Needs to start taking responsibility.
As a Chesterfield based Leeds fan I am well-hated by Blades fans, but despite that I do feel for them & visit Bramall Lane whenever I can. Great atmos, great fans & have seen some great games there. Hope they stay up but seems a lost cause. No need to replace Wilder unless they don't come straight back. & Bramall Lane is easily the best pre-match drink in the league. Fortunately that won't change.
Could be worse SU could have Allardyce in charge. At least they're not that desperate.
Let's revisit this at the end of the season ??
I'm a big SU fan. Whilst this season has been awful to watch, I'm glad (and hopeful) that CW has/will stay(ed). He still has the dressing room, and the owners have the good sense that he's the best fit for us. We have to admit our play going forward has been poor, but combined with key injuries (O'Connell), losing Henderson, and some genuine bad luck and this is what happens in the PL.
As a Brighotn fan, i have to say, we are the joke of the football league. Potter hasnt got a clue. We should be well below the blades right now. How these misfits have scraped together 14 points is beyond me. We spend most matches passing the ball backwards, you dont goals doing that - message to potter: sort it out before you get fired.
As a saints fan living near Brighton I do feel your pain, after poch we went backwards and had to suffer 3 years of 70% possession 1 shot on target football...I honestly nearly stopped watching it was that bad..I dont think Potter is up to the Job personally...very hard to watch and you dont create enough chances