Covid-19: Surge leaves key hospital services 'in crisis'
14/01/2021 | news | health | 2,151
England's cancer, critical care, A&E and routine treatments all hit as hospitals accommodate virus patients.
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14/01/2021 12:11:57 391 76
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If you saw the article about kids' lunch parcels yesterday worth less than 5 quid while the state is being charged 30 quid for them then just imagine the scale of mismanagement when it comes to public money in NHS. Atllee is turning in his grave.
The state was charged £10.50 not £30. That's not to say £10.50 is cost effective for a fiver's food but exaggeration or misrepresentation is unhelpful nonetheless. Removed
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14/01/2021 12:39:45 1 5
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Oh its alright then Con
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14/01/2021 13:40:53 4 0
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do you believe the article that states the charge was £10.50?
We have taken back control of our borders but we only check 10% of people coming in to the country. We should have stopped people from Brazil 2 days ago coming into the country without a negative test or self isolating at the point of entry in police controlled hotel. Removed
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14/01/2021 12:32:53 95 4
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I read somewhere that the Brazil variant is already here and that wouldn't surprise me at all.
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14/01/2021 12:37:06 22 6
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What does "taking back control of our borders" and why were we not able to unilaterally restrict people coming in before that? We have always been able to.
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14/01/2021 12:39:20 20 3
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They are still letting tourists from Brazil into the country, what are they going to visit? A closed museum? Nothing against the tourists or Brazilians as I'm one of them, but what's the point of all this suffering if we're still letting tourists in, specially from high risk areas?
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14/01/2021 12:46:09 6 6
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You have to provide a negative test anyway to leave Brazil. So what’s changed. Let’s just sell our planes and build a wall around our island, wrap ourselves in bubble wrap. Honestly this will never end face the reality.
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14/01/2021 12:36:12 16 1
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The uk already had control of its borders
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14/01/2021 13:51:27 0 10
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Stopping people from Brazil is racist. Viruses don't respect borders.
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14/01/2021 14:14:41 5 0
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The Tories and their media are keen to blame the public for the spread of CV19 when it is clearly the fault of the Tories:

https://www.facebook.com/TheDailyPolitik/videos/436051564426697

https://www.facebook.com/LBC/videos/175151004362830

The Tories are still following a herd immunity policy despite the evidence that there is no such thing. They seem very content with the early death of the old
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14/01/2021 14:19:37 5 0
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Tories have been in power for 10 years & they have been quietly privatising NHS services. Hunt & others have written about how to privatise the NHS. USA private health system costs 18% of GDP & is subsidised by the USA Government to the tune of 12% of GDP.

We spend 7.1% of GDP on the NHS. USA system bankrupts its patients, whilst the rich get richer from it. Tories just see YOU as a cash cow!
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14/01/2021 14:20:41 5 0
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Probably because we always could control borders but it was easier to blame someone else instead of investing in border security
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14/01/2021 14:23:16 3 1
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Are you really that stupid? Stopping flights from Brazil wouldn't stop the Brazil Variant. People from Brazil go to places other than the Uk. They then may infect someone in say Italy and then someone from Italy with it comes to UK. Unless you ban ALL worldwide travel it simply will not work.
14/01/2021 15:16:30 1 0
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Taken back control? I think you must be listening to "I'm sorry I haven't a clue".

But you're right about testing everyone. There can't be that many people arriving anymore, as all UK airports report only a fraction of normal passenger traffic.
14/01/2021 15:36:03 1 0
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"We have taken back control of our borders"

What utter nonsense. Countries in the EU are right now exercising their freedom to close their borders as they wish. We always had control of our borders; the only people insisting otherwise are liars. And even if we have (which we haven't) it doesn't change anything with regards to non-EU traffic, so why use this rhetoric?
14/01/2021 15:49:12 0 0
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Are you implying this massive issue of cancelled treatment is down to foreign visitors, doesn’t years of under investment in our health system have a place in this. Our beds per head of population is not the best, could that be a contributing factor. Just wondering
14/01/2021 16:04:44 0 0
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Were you one of the people angry when the French closed the border to prevent the British variant and accusing them of punishing us?
14/01/2021 16:16:13 0 0
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Political point to be digusted at.
14/01/2021 16:16:07 0 0
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Boris and MSM kept it all hidden the fact they weren't allowed to ban flights from EU last year

Even i said today if ban flights from Brazil you also have to ban them from Portugal

Still they need to test for covid at airports
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14/01/2021 12:17:34 8 10
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It's Winter. The NHS is always in dire straights. My mother worked on an medical unit and said its been the same for a least a decade. Not uncommon for people to be waiting in A+E for 18-20 hours for a bed.
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14/01/2021 12:11:57 391 76
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If you saw the article about kids' lunch parcels yesterday worth less than 5 quid while the state is being charged 30 quid for them then just imagine the scale of mismanagement when it comes to public money in NHS. Atllee is turning in his grave.
Another factually incorrect statement. no one, no where was charged £30 for the ONE week, ONE child food parcels. They were £11.50 Per Week per ONE child for 5 lunchtime meals. When vouchers are issued, they are in domination of £15 and they are given ONCE per TWO weeks, equating to a £30 payment ONCE per TWO weeks . Nothing likes FACTS to get in the way of click baiting though is there! Removed
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14/01/2021 12:48:04 4 1
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Nothing 'likes' the OVERUSE OF CAPITALS and terrible grammar to make a good point unreadable..
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14/01/2021 13:21:53 0 2
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And when you try to use the vouchers at Tesco (as people have no choice, at least round here) you are required to spend £6 minimum before the vouchers are accepted.
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14/01/2021 12:26:54 30 18
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Please film and publicise what is currently happening in hospital ICU's. I think shock tactics now are the only way to get through to these ignorant people.

I know it might upset children but you could issue a warning beforehand.
Yes do it and let some idiot like Julia Hartley brewer choose a hospital or even three of her choice at random and take her in there with a camera Crewe to prove that it is not fake and the NHS is massively overwhelmed compared to 2018. Removed
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14/01/2021 12:38:43 69 18
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My wife ICU nurse,having nightmares and waking up in a panic.She sees the images of people conscious to the end,fighting for breath in terror. Their eyes bulging in fear and pleading with her.Grasping her hand.
3 patients instead of 1 she feels responsible for their deaths as she cant help them adequately .

We are living this as a family and she can't take much more.

Please follow the rules.
You should write a book. Very spooky Removed
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14/01/2021 12:49:14 12 2
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She would even look after you if needed.This is not a laughing matter.
If I lost 3 case at the station , one turned up but empty is that 3 confirmed cases of theft or two I dunno if that’s a case or not .... Removed
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14/01/2021 12:45:05 5 5
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Who could have predicted that hollowing out the NHS over a decade, in preparation for a private sake to US interests would prove to be a mistake?
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14/01/2021 12:29:46 50 127
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Your point?
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Professor Neil Ferguson.

Sacked for breaking Covid rules

Used a 13 Year old computer program for 'model'

Expert in abstract Math not medical science

Known by follow modellers as 'master of disaster'

Said 65,000 UK Deaths from Swine Flu, had about 300 (Same for every other prediction)

Elon Musk calls him “utter tool” who does “absurdly fake science.”

Why listen to this Charlatan media whore
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14/01/2021 13:01:01 3 0
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bbc simple test are they going to be negative , are they going to be critical of government pass those two test and you are in
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14/01/2021 13:02:05 1 0
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Agreed , giving Ferguson any airtime does not reflect well on the Beeb.
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14/01/2021 13:10:11 0 0
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Musk the epidemiology expert who predicted Covid to disappear last April. LOL!
And those models were under the assumption nothing would be done to curb the spread. But clearly significant measures were put in place and continue to be.
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14/01/2021 12:42:10 3 8
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Over 1000 oer day and still climbing. Well done Boris and those who voted for you...
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14/01/2021 12:42:29 5 9
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I am right now in CHINA and saw in person how their gov deal with COVID efficiently and effectively, I am still so glad I was granted to a flight to China last Sept just before COVID was utterly out of control under the Tory regime and now live in heaven vs hell in the choking lockdown 3-4? UK

Thanks god !
My local Newspaper is advertising "Private Dentistry for all" at refurbished local clinics where a Filling costs a £100, of course there is NO NHS Dentistry service for adults now, but if you have money all Private clinics are very welcoming Removed
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14/01/2021 12:58:03 1 2
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Why are the Covid patients not in the Nightingale sanatoriums separate from the patients who need other treatments?!
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All of the paid shill progressive Marxists that arrive en masse to these HYS should really stagger your arrivals. Its patently obvious your Momentum agenda. Plus the fact you add nothing to the debate, except the usual rabid far left wing drivel. Removed
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14/01/2021 13:34:18 2 5
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All of the paid shill progressive Marxists
except the usual rabid far left wing drivel.

That sound very like the usual Tory Troll-Bot dribble....
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14/01/2021 13:35:37 2 2
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This is nonsense; most of the people that your talking about know nothing of Marx, Momentum or even Post-Modernism. In fact, it may be true to say that their motivations are simply ‘common sense’, which I hope we all agree, is the only ‘good ideology’.

Not being “Right Wing” does not make you a ‘Leftist’.
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14/01/2021 13:39:08 2 1
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You don't have to be a Marxist to be disgusted at the clown party's antics. I once voted for the Conservative party and never again. They have conned and bled the country dry, just to give their useless mates bungs.

Clown on a bike, how bad do things have to get before the lying loons of Bozo wake up to the fact it's 2021.
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14/01/2021 13:32:42 0 0
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I know......its a total echo chamber some days....tragic really
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14/01/2021 12:49:14 12 2
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She would even look after you if needed.This is not a laughing matter.
She'd paid to do a job one would expect that job to be done otherwise she's part of the problem (NHS bloaters). Maybe something less stressful for her like a school nurse. It'd be great she could even work from home! Removed
14/01/2021 14:45:20 9 0
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Shame on you. I've in ICUs a few times and it is a stressful and sad place. Lets hope that you show similar dedication to you job...what do you do again?
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And to mitigate a spectacular disaster we are the lab rates for the shiny new vax Anyone healthy and under 60 would need certifying to take them Removed
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14/01/2021 13:54:45 1 0
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....and your degree is in ? Why post something like this without some explanation or justification. Ignorance isn’t a virtue or a pretence for being wise.
I don't agree with violence.

But would smile if someone gave Hancock a good right hook that also glanced off and hit Whitty too, kinda of a two-fer-one.
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14/01/2021 13:52:27 2 0
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Then don’t post it!
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14/01/2021 13:56:18 0 0
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Only smile ?
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14/01/2021 13:00:04 5 2
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If you supply the public sector you have to add extra for all the bureaucracy that you wouldn't have to deal with in a private sector transaction! I have supplied the NHS, always more work than my business customers.
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14/01/2021 14:22:42 7 6
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@bbc I think we have solved this one and talked it all out. Be a lamb and open up a hys on the kids being starved during half term again. Seems Johnson keeps starving them when rashford has an away game. Thanks in advance
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14/01/2021 14:52:21 2 2
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Many NHS Trusts in fact most have outstanding loans at High interest rates 6 or 8% I know of one who is paying £25 million a year in interest alone to Private Financiers. Check the Financials of you local Trust. The delays in dealing with Covid 19 causing overload and delays in other treatments are all part of the plan to prove that NHS is not fit for purpose and Privatise it.
Ah, trust to see a vested interest every time NHS appears to be stretched!

Working in the City perhaps? For vulture funds?

Or just being a useful idiot?....
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14/01/2021 14:55:35 5 4
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The NHS quite simply fails every day to deliver on its commitment to provide a service free to every citizen at the point of need.
The ideal was right in 1945 and right today.
But mission creep has completely distorted this ideal.
It must be time for a complete re-think about what we all really need from the NHS and to create and manage a much slimmer organisation.
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14/01/2021 15:06:16 5 4
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That is the funniest reversal of truth I have seen on here for months.
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ovalball 15:18
Senior Executives at the BBC have allegedly claimed that they are refusing to expose the relentless lies told by the Tory Prime Minister Boris Johnson because doing so would supposedly ‘undermine the general public’s trust in democracy"

I believe, allegedly, that ovalball has clained, allegedly that ...
My Aunt's daughter's boyfriend's cousin heard the same rumour, allegedely ...
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A total load of tripe. The hospitals are not overwhelmed, just propaganda as usual. Covid19 is not a pandemic, only another strain of the flu. Our economy and way of life is being stripped away to install a global dictatorship. Those who chose not to do their own research, shame on you. If you believe what mainstream media say, well stay indoors then and don't go out until this has gone. Removed
14/01/2021 15:30:57 2 0
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Whatever you say Donald.
14/01/2021 15:34:21 0 0
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You know this how exactly?

I must tell my Junior Doctor son to stop lying about the lack of beds, staff, ventilators in his hospital.

He must stop lying when he says his hospital is full, ambulances are queuing and patients are being moved to other hospitals.

We brought our children up not to tell lies but you obviously know more than he and his colleagues do
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14/01/2021 15:34:31 0 0
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lol...medication not working then
14/01/2021 15:38:48 0 0
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your conspiracy theories have too many holes to go into. i dont want to over step the mark but your fears and prejudices are very easy to see and recognise in comments like this

the chaos of the modern world is frightening at times and we all feel that way - to imagine and create a big bad monster to explain this fact is completely normal but be careful you dont fall down that rabbit hole to far
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14/01/2021 15:32:19 7 1
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deep state arising 15:29
A total load of tripe. The hospitals are not overwhelmed, just propaganda as usual.

What's a load of tripe ? Everything your twisted little brain ( ? ) thinks.
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14/01/2021 15:39:51 2 4
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80 seat majority.
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Nature should have been allowed to take it's course... natural population control. As an added benefit this virus attacks the old and unhealthy Removed
14/01/2021 15:52:26 4 0
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Natural selection.....thinning the herd....whatever you want to call it, but you are quite right....this is nature's way.
14/01/2021 15:52:58 1 2
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Do you understand the implications of an overwhelmed NHS?

I would suggest you haven't a clue of what that means
14/01/2021 15:59:22 0 1
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Clearly on a wind-up. Reported.
14/01/2021 15:39:51 2 4
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80 seat majority.
AndrewMichael
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"It’s crazy isn’t it, now it’s all Jonny foreigners fault. Do we not have a mutation also"

The "UK Variant" emanated from Kent. The Kent coast is an infamous landing ground for illegal entry from French migrant camps that are ravaged with Covid...

Just saying...
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14/01/2021 16:12:31 5 2
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That’s the most pathetic, un-sourced, misinformed piece of absolute conspiracy BS I have heard all day. Well done.
14/01/2021 16:13:01 3 0
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Oh those dreadful foreigners !
14/01/2021 14:32:13 6 0
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Is it any wonder cases are surging when even Patel (the head of law enforcement) doesn't even know what the law is with regards exercise or how far is acceptable to travel leaving the police and local authorities with an impossible task of managing people.
14/01/2021 16:50:39 3 3
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No longer an NHS more like National COVID service ....NCS
I tried to warn everyone a while back. Tier 7 is going to be Army on the streets shooting anyone who dares to look out of their window. Once you let fascists sieze power over individual lives, the rest is inevitable. Removed
HYS please bbc!

Brexit: No plans to dilute workers' rights, minister says.
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15/01/2021 10:56:54 0 0
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That is correct. Drowning is the order of the day.
15/01/2021 09:08:14 1 0
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Which rules. A competend, caring government would make no diference whatsoever would it?
B/S No one would make the balls-up the Clowning Street village idiot has. Missed 5 Cobra meetings so he could finalise divorce and announce engagement to new totty.
You couldn't find a bigger imbecile anywhere else but BoZo and his band of yes men stooges.
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Two nursing home residents died after receiving doses of the Pfizer and BioNTech coronavirus vaccine. The Medical Director of the Norwegian Medicines Agency and Norway's National Institute of Public Health is investigating the deaths.

Sonia Acevedo, a 41-year-old nurse suffered a "sudden death" at her home on Friday (January 1), 48 hours after being vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
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15/01/2021 11:07:19 0 0
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Simples for stupid.

The tests kits sent to schools are not going to be used.

Forward them urgently to care homes.
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These tests are slightly over 50% reliable.

So?

Well, that is a chaotic propostion of false negatives.

So?

Well, in that situation, you improve odds.

How?

Taking 2 tests one after other.

Send the tests to the nursing homes! Now.