Covid-19: Pub closures 'will waste 87 million pints of beer'
05/02/2021 | news | politics | 717
That's enough liquid to fill 20 Olympic swimming pools - or many, many thousands of baths.
How many litres of piss? Removed
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05/02/2021 10:25:58 9 6
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'Cheers' for letting us know.
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:26:15 123 67
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Hospitality has been the fall guy of the pandemic, the last to open but first to close and probably one of the safest regulated environments.
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Bob
05/02/2021 10:30:29 55 34
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Yet was gifted big VAT cuts and a super generous customer subsidy scheme.
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05/02/2021 10:34:16 15 22
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Where strangers gather indoors for extended periods?????
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05/02/2021 10:35:05 15 9
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I agree, the dirtiest pub is cleaner than the cleanest hospital.
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05/02/2021 10:39:16 11 13
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Probably not safe at all. You wouldn't know it from the BBC coverage, but every time "success story" South Korea reopened their pubs and restaurants cases went up and they had to close them again. It was a very clear effect, largely because they kept on doing it again and again every few weeks with the same results. (Imagine the wasted pints and food, the economic damage... no articles about that)
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djf
05/02/2021 11:07:45 6 10
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How can you say the safest environment when last summer the photos of city centers showed exactly the opposite?.
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05/02/2021 11:49:47 3 1
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Eating at a table with people you live with is probably one of the lowest risk activities. The risk to/from staff is pretty low with procedures followed and if tables must be booked in advance there is the chance of tracing contacts.

However there is also hospitality where people from different households share a table, spend a long time facing each other in close proximity. This is not low risk.
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05/02/2021 13:06:42 0 1
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There seems to be the assumption that sticking a bottle of handgel on the wall and a few keep your distance signs makes an inherently dangerous environment safe.
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05/02/2021 13:19:51 0 1
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There are no safe environments regarding people drinking because inevitably little common sense prevails
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05/02/2021 10:26:20 50 33
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And a year in the lives of tens of millioins of young people
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05/02/2021 10:51:57 64 19
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Some of them seem to have missed out on spelling.
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05/02/2021 10:52:52 23 12
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The same “ young people” who selfishly don’t give a fig about anyone but themselves .. partying, raving, breaking lockdown rules.
They reap what they sow!!
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05/02/2021 11:07:45 7 6
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Time those young people could have been wasting boozing in pubs?
Yes. I heard on the BBC last summer about booze-crazed people turning up to drink at seaside parties.
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05/02/2021 11:10:11 14 10
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Young people have their entire lives ahead of them to catch up, diddums to losing a few nights in the pub over the lockdowns. Loads of them gained months and months to play games on furlough as well!
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05/02/2021 11:38:52 11 6
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Nonsense.
You've been inconvenienced for less than 12 months, so stop being so precious & apply yourselves to making up for it once restrictions are removed.
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05/02/2021 11:44:09 9 5
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Here we go again.

Not just you, there are others.

The difference is we just get on with it instead of moaning about no laptop, no food parcel, nothing to do, I can't meet my friends.

On second thoughts, you do meet your friends, regularly, in illegal student house parties
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05/02/2021 13:00:34 5 0
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Now you can bore the pants off your great grand parents about how easy they had it during the war.
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05/02/2021 10:26:27 68 8
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I'll have a barrel or two if they're just going to waste...
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05/02/2021 11:11:53 97 4
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Unfortunately the government banned pubs from offering takeaway beer, despite it being entirely safe to do so. This was because a few people ruined it for everyone else by holding impromptu drinking parties in nearby streets and parks the time before.
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05/02/2021 10:27:21 145 77
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Lockdowns have wasted and destroyed more than beer - families livelihoods, businesses, life!
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05/02/2021 10:29:30 162 48
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As has the virus...
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05/02/2021 10:31:39 36 41
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Correction: Boris Johnson's incompetent handling of the coronavirus has wasted and destroyed these things.
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05/02/2021 10:51:15 23 17
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And the virus has been responsible for over 100,000 deaths !!
That’s about as “ destroyed” as it gets
Some people need to get their priorities right
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05/02/2021 10:52:11 7 22
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Lockdowns are a symptom of mishandling.
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05/02/2021 11:05:04 4 12
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*Mismanagement* of lockdowns, to be accurate. Their necessity is unarguable.
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05/02/2021 11:11:36 7 12
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and yet has saved lives. Go figure.
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05/02/2021 11:18:20 11 13
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Lockdowns have saved lives, not wasted them.
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05/02/2021 12:09:19 6 3
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And to re-state the obvious; the lockdowns haven't been an arbitrary act of self-harm made for no reason; they have been an internationally and reluctantly used measure to limit the deaths from a killer virus until enough people can be vaccinated.
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05/02/2021 12:18:48 0 0
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Not seen any of my family, other than my parents since end Jan 2020. Longest time I didn't see them before this was 4 months as had surgery.
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05/02/2021 12:20:58 4 5
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alcohol has wasted and destroyed more than lockdowns
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Me
05/02/2021 12:25:49 2 5
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Don't let your melodrama get in the way of the facts will you.
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05/02/2021 12:46:41 1 5
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Lock downs haven't killed people!!
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05/02/2021 10:27:22 6 5
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They could have sold it as takeaways.
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05/02/2021 10:27:50 343 13
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Covid-19: Pub closures 'will waste 87 million pints of beer'

Just create some free pick-up points and we will do the rest and I guarantee there will be no waste.
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05/02/2021 10:54:41 119 4
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That would be better than the Environmental Issues of flushing it all down the drain!
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05/02/2021 11:02:10 16 2
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Remove the ridiculous duty charges and I am sure a lot of people will buy it, win win for all!
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05/02/2021 11:17:21 6 1
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Nice one Finkelstein !
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05/02/2021 12:22:09 2 2
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What a load of media B******s.
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05/02/2021 12:46:05 6 2
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Why not tip it down the drain and cut out the middle person? Especially if it's "UK lager. ;-)
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05/02/2021 13:33:16 0 6
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It’s in casks/kegs - how do you suppose you pick it up? And if it’s free, how do you suppose this helps the bar owners?
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dan
05/02/2021 14:05:32 6 0
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Why is this not an option....they talk like it's the only answer to just pour it away, crazy world.
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05/02/2021 19:41:17 0 0
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They could probably sell it on for cost to the general public to be honest
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05/02/2021 10:27:59 5 15
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There is a very strong case for an action against the Government for Restraint of Trade.The Common Law has been flouted.
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05/02/2021 10:32:34 7 1
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Someone brought a legal challenge against the lockdown months ago. I t failed on the grounds of the greater good of the greater number. I doubt the case you envisage would have any greater success
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05/02/2021 10:51:04 1 1
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I think that would fail under the legal 'Noli esse morionem' precedent.
If I was in a pub, I'd raise a toast to all those queue jumping London and Rochdale teachers who have gamed the system and got their jabs ahead of the most vulnerable. Well done all of you!

What's happened to the story BBC? It's gone from front page to the England page to oblivion in a flash. Are teachers untouchable then?
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05/02/2021 10:44:25 22 5
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Would you want to touch one? Mixing with all them kids...
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05/02/2021 11:21:40 2 5
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Maybe the truth behind the headline was that they utilised vaccines that would have been thrown away otherwise.
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05/02/2021 11:47:58 3 1
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Nice to see these lovely people have not been wasting their time.

A fine example to the rest of us and all their eager pupils.
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05/02/2021 12:08:18 2 1
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So its ok for teachers, who are forced to go to work and to mix with kids, who have no restrictions on them, and then go home to their own families who are sheilding, without any protection? your being the selfish one, if you wasn't you wouldnt have made it about you 3 comments down
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05/02/2021 12:16:01 2 1
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So, you're clearly in favour of a lockdown - to prevent spread - but you don't want teachers who are at risk of exposure and hence a transmission path to be vaccinated ahead of you, bearing in mind that a mixture of vaccines reduces transmission? Clown.
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05/02/2021 12:26:20 2 0
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Perhaps when it was checked it was not accurate? that's the thing about mainstream media, they have at least a little accountability.
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05/02/2021 12:31:36 0 0
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I was a teacher and I understand the worries that they may have about picking up Covid, but I have to agree with you. This will go down very badly with other people who are also at risk, but who have to wait their turn.
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05/02/2021 12:36:57 0 0
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They thought they had been offered vaccines legitimately. Would you have turned a vaccine down if you were told you could register for one from a legitimate source (a hospital trust)? Stop being so judgmental.
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05/02/2021 10:28:18 116 10
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87 million pints? That's more than I drink in a whole week!
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05/02/2021 10:31:14 94 6
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Try harder ...
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05/02/2021 10:57:21 14 1
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Amateur...
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05/02/2021 12:02:24 5 0
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Padawan!
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05/02/2021 13:01:57 3 0
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It certainly is now :)
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Rob
06/02/2021 11:53:44 0 0
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Lightweight........
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05/02/2021 10:28:37 18 4
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A real shame. For a lot of pubs and some of the smaller breweries this would have been the straw that broke the camel's back. Without wanting to go all Boris, when the pubs safe to open I really hope people flock to them. Not many industries have had such a torrid time of it in the last year (and indeed preceding years). A cut on beer duty offset by a tax on supermarket booze would help I think.
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05/02/2021 10:29:01 26 22
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It'll only be a waste if they don't think of plans around the loss. Like why not sell it off to homes, or takeaway pints like some places did in the first place.

Stop whining and find a work around, it's not like you've had a year to think about it
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05/02/2021 10:30:38 31 5
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The market for takeaway beer from pubs is much smaller than the market for drinks when the pub is open. UYou can't just decide to sell it all - someone has to want to buy it.
There’s also restrictions on selling alcohol as a takeaway you cretin! Removed
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05/02/2021 11:21:48 6 1
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The government explicitly banned pubs from selling takeaway beer for this lockdown.
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05/02/2021 10:27:21 145 77
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Lockdowns have wasted and destroyed more than beer - families livelihoods, businesses, life!
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05/02/2021 10:29:30 162 48
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As has the virus...
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05/02/2021 10:41:43 20 22
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Only for 100,000. Not 70 million.
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05/02/2021 10:29:50 4 24
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Seriously. Is this actually important? Beer wasted. Oh what a shame. There are FAR more important things during a pandemic than beer.
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05/02/2021 10:33:15 12 6
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Like the livelihoods of the millions of people who have seen good businesses, built up by years of hard work, turned to dust by the hysterical overreaction of a shrill minority.
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05/02/2021 10:29:58 16 6
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I have seen lots of drunk fish in my local river
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05/02/2021 11:02:19 8 13
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Breweries, or Treasury paying for the Environmental detrimental effects?

Would it not be best to move away from cheap booze, which causes massive deprivation to Society and go back to just having a good quality pint, or wine for occasions.

I blame the supermarkets. Too handy to put a few bottles in the trolley. What effect have supermarkets had on the Local? All for highly inflated profits.
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05/02/2021 10:30:05 4 7
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At least they will have customers post lock down, far more than had we followed the advice of these Wealth before Health clowns
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05/02/2021 10:35:02 5 2
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So you've invented free healthcare that functions in the absence of money, have you?
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05/02/2021 10:33:40 0 2
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Perhaps they won't. I was a seasoned real ale drinker and I've now got used to not going to the pub and don't miss it anymore. We also have to realise that they need to claw back lost income, so we can expect a massive rise in prices. I doubt we'll see many under £5 a pint in the South East.
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Ian
05/02/2021 10:30:25 15 10
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??After lockdown, we need to think less about binge drinking, and more about quality drinking time, and actually appreciating the social occasion rather than just knocking back pints??

?? ??
?????????????
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05/02/2021 11:46:16 12 3
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Good luck convincing the rest of the population!
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:26:15 123 67
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Hospitality has been the fall guy of the pandemic, the last to open but first to close and probably one of the safest regulated environments.
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Bob
05/02/2021 10:30:29 55 34
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Yet was gifted big VAT cuts and a super generous customer subsidy scheme.
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:33:56 9 2
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And still hundreds of pubs have gone to the wall......
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05/02/2021 10:30:31 0 6
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I heard it was £88 million pints
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05/02/2021 10:29:01 26 22
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It'll only be a waste if they don't think of plans around the loss. Like why not sell it off to homes, or takeaway pints like some places did in the first place.

Stop whining and find a work around, it's not like you've had a year to think about it
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05/02/2021 10:30:38 31 5
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The market for takeaway beer from pubs is much smaller than the market for drinks when the pub is open. UYou can't just decide to sell it all - someone has to want to buy it.
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05/02/2021 10:40:15 3 3
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If its a good enough deal people will buy it...
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05/02/2021 10:48:23 3 4
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You can feed it to pigs........shouldn't be too hard, that was it's original purpose.
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05/02/2021 10:30:43 8 24
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The whole years been a waste if Doris hadn't put the economy and his crony's profits before the health of the population we'd be out of this by now.
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05/02/2021 10:39:06 6 3
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Take a pill and have a lie down.
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CJR
05/02/2021 11:40:58 0 1
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Please post your evidence to back up your comment
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dan
05/02/2021 10:30:47 4 3
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The pubs in my area, especially the unpopular ones, have gained since covid. In fact the one said they were going bust without it and the money theyve been gifted. Im tired of hearing it frankly
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05/02/2021 10:30:52 11 10
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Small beer in comparison to lives lost.
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05/02/2021 10:31:08 22 1
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Not a lot can be done now but let's see proposals to help out the hospitality sector once it can reopen with confidence. In the meantime surely a little ingenuity is all that is required to salvage something from the situation. It's not like this has just happened.
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05/02/2021 10:28:18 116 10
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87 million pints? That's more than I drink in a whole week!
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05/02/2021 10:31:14 94 6
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Try harder ...
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05/02/2021 10:44:19 7 1
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??
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05/02/2021 10:31:54 8 1
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Meh. It's not like it's toxic waste that's difficult to dispose of.... actually, that's debatable with some beers.
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Bob
05/02/2021 10:32:14 10 7
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Spending £330k on doing up your pub and then crying for a handout shows exactly why hands outs should not just be given at the drop of a hat.
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05/02/2021 10:33:48 6 8
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So he should be punished for being successful and then investing in his business?
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05/02/2021 10:32:21 9 8
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That's 16,000,000,000 calories saved from an obese nation. Or 330,000 stone.
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05/02/2021 10:37:31 7 3
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You just fat shamed the whole nation!
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05/02/2021 10:32:30 55 5
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Beer, Beer everywhere & not a drop to drink!
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05/02/2021 12:52:24 8 0
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A witty and urbane reply, good stuff.
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05/02/2021 10:29:51 4 5
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I thought selling a Scotch Egg was the loophole to operating as normal?
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05/02/2021 10:27:21 145 77
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Lockdowns have wasted and destroyed more than beer - families livelihoods, businesses, life!
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05/02/2021 10:31:39 36 41
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Correction: Boris Johnson's incompetent handling of the coronavirus has wasted and destroyed these things.
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05/02/2021 10:39:32 9 20
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And I'm guessing you think people who break lockdown rules are allowed to get off scot free as a result
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05/02/2021 10:47:08 22 25
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Correction: misleading BBC reporting has given the false impression Boris Johnson's incompetent handling of the coronavirus did it. Remember that story about South Korea's contact tracing being so good they could reopen pubs? It isn't - every time they reopened, cases went up and they had to be shut down again, but their government kept on trying anyway. Imagine the BBC headlines if Boris did that
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05/02/2021 11:22:58 6 11
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Nonsense.
The government has done as well as any other nation's under extreme & often dynamic circumstances & certainly better than anything Labour could have achieved.
Especially the most important: getting people vaccinated.
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05/02/2021 11:29:18 4 7
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It is a combination of both. The highly incompetent, totally insane Johnson and his mob have done nothing but show their sheer incompetence to get to grips with the pandemic over the past year, with their half baked, pussy footing around ideas (like the tier system) which DO NOT work and never will.

Now look at the situation, back to square one, all due the government's sheer incompetence.
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05/02/2021 18:20:24 0 1
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Typical of most people who look for someone to blame.
As every government in Europe and north America has discovered, not matter what actions you take, Covid will still wreak havoc. Are all the governments incompetent?
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05/02/2021 10:27:59 5 15
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There is a very strong case for an action against the Government for Restraint of Trade.The Common Law has been flouted.
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05/02/2021 10:32:34 7 1
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Someone brought a legal challenge against the lockdown months ago. I t failed on the grounds of the greater good of the greater number. I doubt the case you envisage would have any greater success
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05/02/2021 10:32:52 6 2
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Many of these brewers main beer suppliers didn’t use their intelligence had they set up an online ordering system with appropriate containers they could have shipped to households at a fraction of cost and still made some money on it.
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05/02/2021 11:03:36 3 1
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Just not the demand in the same volume though sadly. There is some demand there, but for a lot of people the social aspect is a big draw of it. Having a pint alone in your living room doesn't have the same appeal.
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05/02/2021 11:34:41 1 0
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would certainly have made it easier to organise my lockdown party!
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05/02/2021 10:32:57 20 7
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87 million pints? Put some snap on, I'll get my mates to pop round and we'll work our way through it. It may take a week or two though.
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05/02/2021 10:36:32 12 4
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My hero.
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05/02/2021 10:43:59 5 1
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A week or two?
Lightweights!
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05/02/2021 10:29:50 4 24
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Seriously. Is this actually important? Beer wasted. Oh what a shame. There are FAR more important things during a pandemic than beer.
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05/02/2021 10:33:15 12 6
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Like the livelihoods of the millions of people who have seen good businesses, built up by years of hard work, turned to dust by the hysterical overreaction of a shrill minority.
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05/02/2021 10:47:02 2 4
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Does dying count as an overreaction?
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Bob
05/02/2021 10:32:14 10 7
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Spending £330k on doing up your pub and then crying for a handout shows exactly why hands outs should not just be given at the drop of a hat.
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05/02/2021 10:33:48 6 8
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So he should be punished for being successful and then investing in his business?
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Bob
05/02/2021 10:45:38 5 4
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If you spend £330k during a lockdown and then cry you need a handout you should not have spent the money.
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Bob
05/02/2021 10:30:29 55 34
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Yet was gifted big VAT cuts and a super generous customer subsidy scheme.
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:33:56 9 2
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And still hundreds of pubs have gone to the wall......
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05/02/2021 13:39:50 2 1
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You should research how many pubs were going to the wall before coronavirus. They were closing, at what could be considered by some, to be an alarming rate. The virus has just sped up the process.
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05/02/2021 10:34:00 47 25
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On Wednesday the UK vaccinated 469000 people. France vaccinated less than 500.
I think this is a difficult situation but we will be back in the bars long before the rest of Europe.
In the meantime I'm brinking bottled beers and making sure they aren't imported.
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05/02/2021 10:40:27 43 31
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I think you've been "brinking" enough!

BTW why are imported beers a problem for you but imported Covid vaccines OK?
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05/02/2021 10:43:31 11 1
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brinking bottled beers
Are you on it a bit early :)
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05/02/2021 11:20:37 1 10
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France's handling of the end-game vaccination is appalling, and it will surely reflect on their heavily centralised and controlling method of government in the end. Lazy French workers (the hard working ones left the country) won't work weekends, even for critical situations like this.
Italy reopened their bars and cafes last week in 2/3 of the nation

Many other EU nations are not even locked down

How do you not know this?
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05/02/2021 12:35:20 4 1
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That's funny, because bars are open now in most of Europe, albeit with curfews and limits on group sizes. Good luck on that flat murky beer, I'll stick to the far superior beers from Germany, Spain, Poland and Netherlands.
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05/02/2021 20:48:54 0 0
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"Fewer", not "less".

And "brinking"?
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05/02/2021 10:34:02 105 13
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There was / is no need for this, as has already been mentioned, all the beer could have been sold as takeaways without the need for wastage, I wonder what happened to all the beer in the house of commons bar..........I bet that didn't go down the drain!
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05/02/2021 10:40:52 73 7
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Really - I dont think you have any understanding of the running costs of a pub..My local (having spoke to them in depth in Dec) simply cannot run takeaway beer sales as the volume of sales will not pay for having people working, its better to shut the pub total and put all staff on furlough. Thats probably the maths for most pubs except a few cases.
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05/02/2021 10:55:03 3 2
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I bet it did eventually...
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05/02/2021 11:03:21 15 2
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I'm at a loss as to why anyone would want a take-away beer. Surely the draw of the pub is being in the pub so take that away, you may as well just buy from the supermarket and drink it home for a fraction of the cost. If the beer is just going to be chucked there must be a way of selling it off at a really low price though rather than pour it away.
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djf
05/02/2021 11:09:52 6 2
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It got wasted on MPs.
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05/02/2021 11:31:37 9 5
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Why would you pay £4 for a takeaway pint, when you can get 4 cans for a fiver at your local supermarket?
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05/02/2021 11:40:35 8 7
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Of course the beer did not go to waste in the commons bar, because that would have been a total sin to deny the corrupted politicians of their pleasure and following their own rules.

They do not give a toss about the severe damage they have caused to people's livelihoods and jobs, as long as they have still got theirs with their highly overpaid salaries. Despicable characters all of them.
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:26:15 123 67
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Hospitality has been the fall guy of the pandemic, the last to open but first to close and probably one of the safest regulated environments.
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05/02/2021 10:34:16 15 22
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Where strangers gather indoors for extended periods?????
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:37:06 22 10
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Yes but in a regulated environment therefore mitigated. Please provide evidence that the sector is responsible for spreading the virus, you won’t find anything conclusive. In Wales Brains pubs served 850,000 customers and had 5 track and trace calls.
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05/02/2021 10:47:55 9 2
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Yup, that's a pub!
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05/02/2021 10:34:21 23 4
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“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” - Benjamin Franklin

accordingly the 87 Mill pints throw out should not be trivialised - 'tis a sign I tell 'ee!
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05/02/2021 10:30:05 4 7
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At least they will have customers post lock down, far more than had we followed the advice of these Wealth before Health clowns
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05/02/2021 10:35:02 5 2
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So you've invented free healthcare that functions in the absence of money, have you?
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05/02/2021 10:35:29 5 3
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I’d do it some damage the mood I’m in !
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05/02/2021 10:36:10 7 6
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It's odd that they aren't chucking milk away. It's as if the supermarkets don't sell beer.
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05/02/2021 11:01:34 0 1
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You expect all the supermarkets to buy up all the beer that all the UK pubs were serving and flog it at the same time as their own stock of alcohol?
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05/02/2021 10:36:23 26 2
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That's not just a blow to the breweries -but also the treasury
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05/02/2021 10:32:57 20 7
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87 million pints? Put some snap on, I'll get my mates to pop round and we'll work our way through it. It may take a week or two though.
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05/02/2021 10:36:32 12 4
bbc
My hero.
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05/02/2021 10:30:05 4 7
bbc
At least they will have customers post lock down, far more than had we followed the advice of these Wealth before Health clowns
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01
05/02/2021 10:33:40 0 2
bbc
Perhaps they won't. I was a seasoned real ale drinker and I've now got used to not going to the pub and don't miss it anymore. We also have to realise that they need to claw back lost income, so we can expect a massive rise in prices. I doubt we'll see many under £5 a pint in the South East.
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05/02/2021 10:34:16 15 22
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Where strangers gather indoors for extended periods?????
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:37:06 22 10
bbc
Yes but in a regulated environment therefore mitigated. Please provide evidence that the sector is responsible for spreading the virus, you won’t find anything conclusive. In Wales Brains pubs served 850,000 customers and had 5 track and trace calls.
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05/02/2021 11:03:23 6 9
bbc
As someone who works in a restaurant, I can tell you track and trace calls mean nothing.

In October we had 2 staff members test positive and 3 others self isolating with symptoms. Track and trace did nothing!

We stayed open and none of the customers were made aware of the situation.

Track and trace failed miserably and the resteraunt sure is not regulated.
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05/02/2021 11:50:27 1 3
bbc
Absence of evidence is evidence of absence?
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05/02/2021 10:32:21 9 8
bbc
That's 16,000,000,000 calories saved from an obese nation. Or 330,000 stone.
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05/02/2021 10:37:31 7 3
bbc
You just fat shamed the whole nation!
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05/02/2021 10:37:35 20 3
bbc
Wasting anything is, as it suggests, a waste. I'm quite sure that it could be supplied on to Joe Public at cost through collection points and frankly I could do with a beer even though its only 10.37am.
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05/02/2021 10:37:42 7 3
bbc
Our micro pub has been doing deliveries and I spend about £30 per week now on beer/ales. I used to budget around double that just for me but as we've not been to the city pubs in ages we've saved a fortune.
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:26:15 123 67
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Hospitality has been the fall guy of the pandemic, the last to open but first to close and probably one of the safest regulated environments.
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01
05/02/2021 10:35:05 15 9
bbc
I agree, the dirtiest pub is cleaner than the cleanest hospital.
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:40:18 6 13
bbc
Agreed, I wonder how many elderly went for a pint, caught covid in a pub and died compared to hospitals figures.
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05/02/2021 10:41:45 7 11
bbc
What?!
Utter bovine scatology!
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05/02/2021 10:35:27 12 3
bbc
Couldn't it be used as fertiliser or drain cleaner?

I know the stuff they serve in my local could (only joking, I miss you, pub)
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05/02/2021 10:38:04 4 4
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Brings a tear to the eye :( :(
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WM
05/02/2021 10:38:14 5 5
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Whether it's the outlets or returned to the breweries it's still waste. How can they be expected to gear up and close with a product with a short shelf life, with little notice. I don't think takeaway pints is practical for health reasons. As the government closes hospitality there should be proper compensation for stock losses.
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05/02/2021 10:44:26 1 2
bbc
Absolutely
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Bob
05/02/2021 10:38:19 13 9
bbc
Suppose they could start feeding it to the people who will be locked up in quarantine hotels. But I think we should be worrying more about the terrible death rate in this Country rather than some lost beer.
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05/02/2021 11:13:31 6 2
bbc
That already gets saturation coverage, to the point where people are switching off the news. The occasional reminder of normality does no harm and doesn't make the death rate any worse.
Just another step in the UK beomming a Caliphate. Removed
Slow creep....BAME communities not getting vaccinated.

The Guardian says it's my fault.
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05/02/2021 10:45:26 0 1
bbc
Yes, them & the ultra--"christian" New Puritans are a nasty bunch
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05/02/2021 10:50:21 1 1
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Untapped levels of ignorance
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05/02/2021 10:38:46 7 6
bbc
Just a thought. But the shelves in the supermarkets are stacked with beer. It comes from the breweries.
I'm struggling to understand why a brewery would have to pour away beer that can be stored for months.
Stick what you have in cans and stop breweing the stuff if you can't sell it.
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05/02/2021 10:43:45 6 3
bbc
Majority of real ales are seasonal and still have use-by dates. Live beer tastes so much better than bottled. Yes it could be stored for a limited time but who wants a winter warmer in spring or a fresh hoppy spring pale in autumn. Lager can be stored for much longer if that takes your fancy.
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05/02/2021 10:30:43 8 24
bbc
The whole years been a waste if Doris hadn't put the economy and his crony's profits before the health of the population we'd be out of this by now.
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05/02/2021 10:39:06 6 3
bbc
Take a pill and have a lie down.
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05/02/2021 14:25:43 0 0
bbc
I'd love a pils right now.
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:26:15 123 67
bbc
Hospitality has been the fall guy of the pandemic, the last to open but first to close and probably one of the safest regulated environments.
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05/02/2021 10:39:16 11 13
bbc
Probably not safe at all. You wouldn't know it from the BBC coverage, but every time "success story" South Korea reopened their pubs and restaurants cases went up and they had to close them again. It was a very clear effect, largely because they kept on doing it again and again every few weeks with the same results. (Imagine the wasted pints and food, the economic damage... no articles about that)
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01
05/02/2021 10:37:23 4 3
bbc
This is the only reason to live in the Isle of Man right now.
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05/02/2021 10:39:23 4 8
bbc
Good news for public health!
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Vid
05/02/2021 10:43:21 7 4
bbc
Be a good person and eat your smashed avocado, let the grownups talk will you.
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05/02/2021 10:44:32 2 2
bbc
Utter lying "New Puritan" cobblers.
Beer kills most bacteria & quite a few viruses & in moderate quantities is actually good for you
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05/02/2021 10:47:25 3 2
bbc
virtual signalling

most humans can drink beer and adopt it , and live a reasonable healthy life

beer= evil is just so woke
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05/02/2021 10:48:08 0 1
bbc
Not really, just more drinking at home as deaths figures related to alcohol show. Just a bonus for the supermarkets and off licences.
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05/02/2021 10:39:24 72 5
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If only they could synthesise the vaccine and stick it in a pint the population would be vaccinated within 10 minutes! :)
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05/02/2021 11:50:58 8 28
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Funny enough, the process isn't that much different.

The only difference is is I don't think they put dead dogs in vaccines.
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05/02/2021 10:31:39 36 41
bbc
Correction: Boris Johnson's incompetent handling of the coronavirus has wasted and destroyed these things.
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05/02/2021 10:39:32 9 20
bbc
And I'm guessing you think people who break lockdown rules are allowed to get off scot free as a result
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05/02/2021 10:58:30 24 12
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You cannot deny that Johnson was hopeless from day one of this pandemic. Regardless of political party affiliation. Shaking hands with covid patients, talking of 'herd immunity', never shutting down airports, cheltenham festival going ahead, losing millions of our tax money on track and trace. He's been utterly dreadful.
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05/02/2021 10:29:01 26 22
bbc
It'll only be a waste if they don't think of plans around the loss. Like why not sell it off to homes, or takeaway pints like some places did in the first place.

Stop whining and find a work around, it's not like you've had a year to think about it
There’s also restrictions on selling alcohol as a takeaway you cretin! Removed
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05/02/2021 10:30:38 31 5
bbc
The market for takeaway beer from pubs is much smaller than the market for drinks when the pub is open. UYou can't just decide to sell it all - someone has to want to buy it.
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05/02/2021 10:40:15 3 3
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If its a good enough deal people will buy it...
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01
05/02/2021 10:35:05 15 9
bbc
I agree, the dirtiest pub is cleaner than the cleanest hospital.
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Lee
05/02/2021 10:40:18 6 13
bbc
Agreed, I wonder how many elderly went for a pint, caught covid in a pub and died compared to hospitals figures.
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05/02/2021 10:34:00 47 25
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On Wednesday the UK vaccinated 469000 people. France vaccinated less than 500.
I think this is a difficult situation but we will be back in the bars long before the rest of Europe.
In the meantime I'm brinking bottled beers and making sure they aren't imported.
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05/02/2021 10:40:27 43 31
bbc
I think you've been "brinking" enough!

BTW why are imported beers a problem for you but imported Covid vaccines OK?
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05/02/2021 10:55:33 14 11
bbc
Xenophobic embittered Brexiteer!
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05/02/2021 10:40:35 5 3
bbc
Bottle it, (refillable? With a deposit/ return) cask it (with a tap) and sell it online.
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05/02/2021 10:43:59 5 3
bbc
100% - Has to be a better way then tipping it away! only a complete fool would tip it away, or someone with more money then sense
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05/02/2021 10:57:02 0 1
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Sadly it just isn't that easy. There simply just isnt as much demand there.
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05/02/2021 10:34:02 105 13
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There was / is no need for this, as has already been mentioned, all the beer could have been sold as takeaways without the need for wastage, I wonder what happened to all the beer in the house of commons bar..........I bet that didn't go down the drain!
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05/02/2021 10:40:52 73 7
bbc
Really - I dont think you have any understanding of the running costs of a pub..My local (having spoke to them in depth in Dec) simply cannot run takeaway beer sales as the volume of sales will not pay for having people working, its better to shut the pub total and put all staff on furlough. Thats probably the maths for most pubs except a few cases.
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05/02/2021 11:14:11 7 1
bbc
Well it depends on having a live-in landlord or not. Live-in landlord, otherwise doing very little or maybe taking the opportunity to spruce up the decor, can easily sell takeaway beer without having to pay staff. No live-in landlord, then no, why travel in to do this?
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06/02/2021 01:02:37 0 0
bbc
Rubbish - Our local is doing great sales. You do realise that Pubs/Restaurants can still trade within regulations? maybe not sit-in, but definitely can. Answer?
Just another step in the UK beomming a Caliphate. Removed
Slow creep....BAME communities not getting vaccinated.

The Guardian says it's my fault.
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05/02/2021 10:44:56 3 3
bbc
Its your privilege that is to blame :-)!....Thought you knew that...
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05/02/2021 10:50:04 3 2
bbc
if you are white its 50% your fault if you are white and male its 100% your fault check your privledge mate
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05/02/2021 10:54:17 1 2
bbc
Its the people whom claim to be on the right side of race issues are often the ones causing the divide. The Guardian are the biggest dividers of the bunch
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05/02/2021 10:29:30 162 48
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As has the virus...
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05/02/2021 10:41:43 20 22
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Only for 100,000. Not 70 million.
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05/02/2021 10:42:44 31 21
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Didn't realise those 100,000 people didnt have families or friends.

Don't forget long covid
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05/02/2021 10:59:00 21 16
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This is the point but unfortunately the sensationalist headline writers are only concerned with the tiny minority (c100k) and not the long term damage to the livelihoods, mental health, education and long term prospects if vast majority (c70million) who will feel the brunt of this for decades.
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05/02/2021 10:59:12 13 9
bbc
"Only ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND people"
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05/02/2021 11:00:19 13 4
bbc
Yes, for the best part of 70 million save for a few at the top of the pile, particulary politicians and their mates.

Also add to this the number of future children now born into poverty and uncertainty . . . But that won't bother Boris, Rishi or Handcock.
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01
05/02/2021 10:35:05 15 9
bbc
I agree, the dirtiest pub is cleaner than the cleanest hospital.
74
05/02/2021 10:41:45 7 11
bbc
What?!
Utter bovine scatology!
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05/02/2021 10:41:43 20 22
bbc
Only for 100,000. Not 70 million.
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05/02/2021 10:42:44 31 21
bbc
Didn't realise those 100,000 people didnt have families or friends.

Don't forget long covid
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05/02/2021 10:43:00 3 2
bbc
Send it my way > any pub want my address plz ask
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Kat
05/02/2021 10:43:02 3 3
bbc
Hang on- 87m pints would only fill 20 Olympic-sized swimming pools? Sounds like Olympics swimming is a criminal waste of water!
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05/02/2021 10:39:23 4 8
bbc
Good news for public health!
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Vid
05/02/2021 10:43:21 7 4
bbc
Be a good person and eat your smashed avocado, let the grownups talk will you.
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05/02/2021 10:34:00 47 25
bbc
On Wednesday the UK vaccinated 469000 people. France vaccinated less than 500.
I think this is a difficult situation but we will be back in the bars long before the rest of Europe.
In the meantime I'm brinking bottled beers and making sure they aren't imported.
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05/02/2021 10:43:31 11 1
bbc
brinking bottled beers
Are you on it a bit early :)
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05/02/2021 10:38:46 7 6
bbc
Just a thought. But the shelves in the supermarkets are stacked with beer. It comes from the breweries.
I'm struggling to understand why a brewery would have to pour away beer that can be stored for months.
Stick what you have in cans and stop breweing the stuff if you can't sell it.
80
05/02/2021 10:43:45 6 3
bbc
Majority of real ales are seasonal and still have use-by dates. Live beer tastes so much better than bottled. Yes it could be stored for a limited time but who wants a winter warmer in spring or a fresh hoppy spring pale in autumn. Lager can be stored for much longer if that takes your fancy.
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05/02/2021 10:32:57 20 7
bbc
87 million pints? Put some snap on, I'll get my mates to pop round and we'll work our way through it. It may take a week or two though.
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05/02/2021 10:43:59 5 1
bbc
A week or two?
Lightweights!
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05/02/2021 10:45:48 2 1
bbc
Haha!
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05/02/2021 10:40:35 5 3
bbc
Bottle it, (refillable? With a deposit/ return) cask it (with a tap) and sell it online.
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05/02/2021 10:43:59 5 3
bbc
100% - Has to be a better way then tipping it away! only a complete fool would tip it away, or someone with more money then sense
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05/02/2021 10:46:47 0 3
bbc
What do you think happens when you drink it? It will goes to waste, it's just that in the interim it can cause misery for many people. Including this around the people that drink.

It's the worst drug in the whole world.
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05/02/2021 10:31:14 94 6
bbc
Try harder ...
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05/02/2021 10:44:19 7 1
bbc
??
If I was in a pub, I'd raise a toast to all those queue jumping London and Rochdale teachers who have gamed the system and got their jabs ahead of the most vulnerable. Well done all of you!

What's happened to the story BBC? It's gone from front page to the England page to oblivion in a flash. Are teachers untouchable then?
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05/02/2021 10:44:25 22 5
bbc
Would you want to touch one? Mixing with all them kids...
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WM
05/02/2021 10:38:14 5 5
bbc
Whether it's the outlets or returned to the breweries it's still waste. How can they be expected to gear up and close with a product with a short shelf life, with little notice. I don't think takeaway pints is practical for health reasons. As the government closes hospitality there should be proper compensation for stock losses.
85
05/02/2021 10:44:26 1 2
bbc
Absolutely
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05/02/2021 10:39:23 4 8
bbc
Good news for public health!
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05/02/2021 10:44:32 2 2
bbc
Utter lying "New Puritan" cobblers.
Beer kills most bacteria & quite a few viruses & in moderate quantities is actually good for you
Slow creep....BAME communities not getting vaccinated.

The Guardian says it's my fault.
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05/02/2021 10:44:56 3 3
bbc
Its your privilege that is to blame :-)!....Thought you knew that...
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jay
05/02/2021 10:44:58 3 4
bbc
Pour away as much as you like ?? Covid has produced something else too
The biggest alcohol dependency ever ???? , oh dear I guess running the country is printed on a IKEA instructions booklet .... totally unreadable
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05/02/2021 10:45:03 4 3
bbc
Better the beer is wasted rather than the patrons
Just another step in the UK beomming a Caliphate. Removed
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05/02/2021 10:45:26 0 1
bbc
Yes, them & the ultra--"christian" New Puritans are a nasty bunch
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05/02/2021 10:33:48 6 8
bbc
So he should be punished for being successful and then investing in his business?
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Bob
05/02/2021 10:45:38 5 4
bbc
If you spend £330k during a lockdown and then cry you need a handout you should not have spent the money.
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05/02/2021 10:43:59 5 1
bbc
A week or two?
Lightweights!
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05/02/2021 10:45:48 2 1
bbc
Haha!
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05/02/2021 10:46:13 0 2
bbc
It’s an awful shame...
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05/02/2021 10:43:59 5 3
bbc
100% - Has to be a better way then tipping it away! only a complete fool would tip it away, or someone with more money then sense
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05/02/2021 10:46:47 0 3
bbc
What do you think happens when you drink it? It will goes to waste, it's just that in the interim it can cause misery for many people. Including this around the people that drink.

It's the worst drug in the whole world.
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05/02/2021 10:46:47 3 2
bbc
Seems a shame to throw something away because you can't sell it/make money from it.

Then again, given the relationship between Brits & booze, it's probably not a bad thing in this case.
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05/02/2021 10:46:47 2 2
bbc
Cheaper beer to wash down all that crabmeat we can't seem to sell abroad now. Ya-ho!

Except they'd rather chuck it away than sell it at a reasonable price.

Shame.
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05/02/2021 10:33:15 12 6
bbc
Like the livelihoods of the millions of people who have seen good businesses, built up by years of hard work, turned to dust by the hysterical overreaction of a shrill minority.
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05/02/2021 10:47:02 2 4
bbc
Does dying count as an overreaction?
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05/02/2021 10:51:06 6 2
bbc
Check the data not the propaganda.

Those at risk of dying are almost all from readily identifiable social groups. Imprisoning the majority rather than the vulnerable was an insane, irrational reaction to the social-media-driven "something must be done" brigade.
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05/02/2021 10:31:39 36 41
bbc
Correction: Boris Johnson's incompetent handling of the coronavirus has wasted and destroyed these things.
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05/02/2021 10:47:08 22 25
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Correction: misleading BBC reporting has given the false impression Boris Johnson's incompetent handling of the coronavirus did it. Remember that story about South Korea's contact tracing being so good they could reopen pubs? It isn't - every time they reopened, cases went up and they had to be shut down again, but their government kept on trying anyway. Imagine the BBC headlines if Boris did that
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05/02/2021 11:00:01 5 6
bbc
The tories can do no wrong in your eyes.
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05/02/2021 11:39:12 3 4
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The BBC do not make policy, they only report on it. Johnson gets plenty of advice but ultimately its his decision and responsibility.
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05/02/2021 10:47:11 2 4
bbc
Trivialising effects of lockdown. We see you.
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jay
05/02/2021 10:47:19 1 3
bbc
Beer ??
Least we got lots of empty cycle lanes
There all to pissed from last night ??