1.3 million in UK have had their Covid vaccine
05/01/2021 | news | health | 1,826
That includes some of the most vulnerable patients who should soon have "significant" protection against the virus.
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05/01/2021 19:43:46 288 35
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Wonderful. We need good news like this to give us hope in these dark days.
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05/01/2021 20:41:58 125 84
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True but tbh the headline is misleading. They have had half the course. The Government need to ensure they finish the course.
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Ian
05/01/2021 21:16:45 28 34
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We need a new PM to give us hope in these dark days, not the one we have now ??

3 million schoolchildren spread the virus on Monday. Are you telling me that things changed that much between Sunday and Monday? No, they didn't.
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05/01/2021 21:25:02 12 25
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wow 300,000 a week and we need 2,000,000 not very good news is it
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cba
05/01/2021 21:41:06 6 31
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This is not good news this is terrible at this rate it will take years to vaccinate us we will all be dead by then.
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05/01/2021 21:56:42 7 10
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Track and trace didn’t work, lockdowns are not able to keep up with the new galloping Covid.
We need to minimise infection urgently to limit the chances of further mutations.
The only answer is a massively accelerated vaccination programme. However we are getting half of one, slipping backwards every day. If the government doesn’t act quickly vaccination will prove another waste of £billions.
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05/01/2021 21:58:49 9 1
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Fingers crossed the virus doesn't do what viruses do and mutate into something that dodges the current vaccines.
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05/01/2021 22:22:11 8 5
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More spin and over promises, reduce the promise by 25/50pct and you get the outcome
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05/01/2021 22:41:49 3 0
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not if your vulnerable and just under 80, it isn't, maybe if I'm lucky, spring at the earliest.(1st jab )
05/01/2021 23:16:51 2 2
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Thank goodness we have left the EU. We would never have been able to achieve this whilst smothered by so many foreigners.
05/01/2021 23:33:22 2 2
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Yes... la la land has never looked so good. Only fly in the ointment is that even his own puppets don't believe the numbers that Boris makes up. Still, at least he can still enjoy his weekends away from the office.
Dan
06/01/2021 00:31:48 0 1
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We had hope 9 months ago, we just needed to flatten the curve.
And we did.
But then we needed to get the overall deaths down.
And we did
But then we needed to get the R number below 1
And we did
But then we needed to wait for the vulnerable to get the vaccine.
And we did
And now we just need to wait until the non vulnerable are vaxed.
And we will
And then we can wait for new vax for new strains.
06/01/2021 02:24:48 0 2
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You won't be saying that if these vaccines, that have been rushed out, end up causing more harm than they cure.
Only time will tell.
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05/01/2021 19:43:57 9 12
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Let’s just pray it’s effective against the S African Strain
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05/01/2021 19:57:38 4 1
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Yes, I'm afraid my plan to support South Africa with a family holiday late this year is on hold pending more information on this variant.
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05/01/2021 19:52:39 0 0
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Haha you know it isn’t right?
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05/01/2021 20:12:27 1 0
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We can hope but the scientist seem confident. There will be one strain that will mean some re-engineering but that is to be expected.
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05/01/2021 19:45:05 28 23
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Good job.

Now we just need to wait for Sir Keir Starmer to say it isn't enough.
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05/01/2021 19:48:15 11 20
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Good job?

Are you deluded
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05/01/2021 19:48:16 4 2
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05/01/2021 20:11:15 3 2
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Mr Hindsight and his usual criticism but zero positive support or recomendations
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05/01/2021 21:04:03 1 1
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Aye ,he announces his required plan AFTER the official announcement.
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05/01/2021 21:21:35 1 4
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bbc interviewed shadow chancellor and said tories arent giving enough money during virus , at least covid has not affected labours money trees
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05/01/2021 21:53:26 1 1
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Think he already has......24/7 now for Sir Keir..
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05/01/2021 19:45:39 46 10
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Nice to see Whitty actually being more optimistic for once.
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05/01/2021 21:44:10 13 13
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No doubt he's been 'coached'. Gong list being drawn up?
06/01/2021 05:39:21 0 0
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Best to say it as it is.
Positive or negative.
The truth is best.
06/01/2021 08:07:09 1 0
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Would be nicer to see him administering the vaccine as it's supposed to be adminstered. Instead he's giving people half-protection which may be no protection at all.
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05/01/2021 19:45:49 27 17
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But my 90 year old mother has heard nothing. No vaccine, no appointment, no estimate of when she might get an appointment.

I’d like some information about how it is decided who the lucky ones are going to be.
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05/01/2021 19:54:01 17 4
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Mine neither
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05/01/2021 19:48:47 12 0
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They will get to her. My dad is waiting to hear from his surgery - they started doing them yesterday. My mums started before Christmas. It will happen
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05/01/2021 19:55:41 12 0
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I was like you this morning, then got the magic texts for my mum and dad to arrange appointments this week. Please forgive me if you've done this, but check your Mum's GP has an up to date mobile phone number for you, then you can arrange the booking. The GPs are communicating by text. It's a good booking system. Hope you get the call soon!
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05/01/2021 20:00:17 6 1
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Same here, and I know of people outside of the top 4 groups that have been vaccinated.
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05/01/2021 21:01:04 1 0
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My 90 year old grandmother is still waiting and they currently have a positive COVID resident in her care home. No news and they are very at risk there
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05/01/2021 21:49:08 3 0
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25% 'done' means 75% 'not done'. East enough for you? Actually it's 12.5% and 87.5% but we'll let that pass for a few weeks.
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05/01/2021 21:49:27 1 0
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Guess it depends on the region you live in and how many are more vulnerable before it’s ‘your turn’...But nice to see Tom Jones, Pru Leigh, Ester Ranzen getting theirs!
06/01/2021 14:32:39 0 0
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And many people can't get through to their GPs who seem to have vanished during lockdown
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05/01/2021 19:46:43 9 24
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Yesterday bojo said the uk had vaccinated more than Europe combined

Yet today he said uk had vaccinated more than any other European country

Maybe someone told him some facts about the countries in Europe or was it another lie and another uturn
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05/01/2021 19:50:48 16 2
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Both are true. Germany has vaccinated 260k people and that is more than every other EU country combined. U.K. has managed 1.3m
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05/01/2021 19:51:17 0 1
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Perhaps other EU countries have started their programs?
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05/01/2021 19:48:35 9 3
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No, vaccinated more than Europe.
Had we remained in the EU we would be waiting in line to begin.
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05/01/2021 20:09:45 2 0
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Your Corbyn Champagne Socialist pro EU opinion is showing through.
Germany has vaccinated circa 300k people which is the greatest in the EU and mainland Europe whilst the UK has vaccinated 1.3m. The UK is planning to vaccinate 1.5m to 2m people a week whilst the figurs for the total of the rest of Europe is planned at 600k,
All info availble on each countries gov sites if you look
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05/01/2021 19:47:06 9 21
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Don't believe you Boris
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05/01/2021 19:47:47 8 11
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Where ?? Not a lot of people in Wales been vaccinated
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05/01/2021 19:50:28 8 0
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You need to ask your fm why?
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05/01/2021 19:50:53 2 0
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I have 2 family members who work in nhs and both had their 2nd dose yesterday along with other colleagues
Staff were selected as people didn't turn up as they had spare doses
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05/01/2021 19:55:16 0 1
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Yep..last week they'd managed a whole 0.72 per cent
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05/01/2021 20:04:14 2 0
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Really, how do you know. Better ask your devolved administration why if its true, mind you tey will probably say you can have one if you vote for independance in the same manner Sturgeon is angling things
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05/01/2021 19:45:05 28 23
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Good job.

Now we just need to wait for Sir Keir Starmer to say it isn't enough.
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05/01/2021 19:48:15 11 20
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Good job?

Are you deluded
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05/01/2021 19:50:56 5 1
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No. Are you?
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05/01/2021 20:13:53 1 2
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He may be. Starman may be as well but we can say Momentum and Corbyn certainly are
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05/01/2021 19:45:05 28 23
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Good job.

Now we just need to wait for Sir Keir Starmer to say it isn't enough.
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05/01/2021 19:48:16 4 2
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DSA
05/01/2021 19:49:00 10 3
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Great, and what we need now are clear unambiguous instructions on what we can and can't do during the lockdown after we have been vaccinated.
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37p
05/01/2021 19:50:40 10 1
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That's something that really will need to be stated soon.
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05/01/2021 19:51:33 3 4
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Nothing. The makers of the vaccines have stated quite clearly that they don’t offer any immunity.
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05/01/2021 20:05:15 7 0
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Stay at home until lockdown ends as you may still infect others
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05/01/2021 20:15:55 6 0
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Until the end of the lockdown you have no special privileges'!
06/01/2021 11:07:21 0 0
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You can't do anything.
1) The government loves its power and enjoys making your life a misery.
2) Imagine the resentment if the vaccinated have more freedoms than the non-vaccinated.
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05/01/2021 19:49:32 140 17
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Good to hear the total vaccinated population stats will be updated and published daily: scrutinising the whole rollout in every way possible is essential to make sure it succeeds as best as possible, with transparency of information critical to this.
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37p
05/01/2021 19:54:36 65 12
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They've been published for the last 3 weeks on the government coronavirus website.
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05/01/2021 20:30:47 14 0
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Great about the vaccination stats will be published daily, I would like to know haw many people have bern released from hospital after having covid
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05/01/2021 20:44:43 4 1
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very true we must all keep our on the ball, france has tested 513 so far so we must be doing something right this time
"transparency of information" ! ! ! The bunch inept clowns led by the worlds biggest lair, next to trump that is, would not know what transparency and information meant. Bit like they do not know what truth, honesty, integrity and facts means.
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cba
05/01/2021 21:30:05 8 8
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But it has been out for a month now and they have only done 1.3million so scrutiny and transparency will have no effect they will just give the same lame excuses why they are not hitting this target just like all the othersI don,t think this government has grasped the importance only one thing matters now vaccinate everyone fast that is the only goal
Unless they know something we don,t
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05/01/2021 21:37:55 9 7
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If they're not meeting targets they'll lie. They have form. Remember they counted a pair of gloves as 2 items, etc.
Jim
05/01/2021 23:24:03 2 7
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Its not true though is it the figure quoted is for people who have had 1 dose but they need both for it to work so the figures are basically meaningless and a way of keeping the wider public in line during lockdown
05/01/2021 23:25:59 2 2
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20'000 total yesterday not for the day ALL...so that's some going today..LOL
06/01/2021 04:20:04 0 1
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Naive.
The risk of taking a rushed vaccine is not worth it, in my view.
But good luck to everyone who chooses to allow these chemicals into their bloodstreams.
06/01/2021 08:03:29 0 0
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Have they been properly vaccinated? It shouldn't count until the second dose has been administered.
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05/01/2021 19:49:38 8 15
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Allowing for Boris over promising let's be cautious and call that @ 600 000 vaccinations!
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05/01/2021 19:49:49 8 14
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"significant degree of immunity" how does that work as none of the vaccines have been trialed to see if they stop people catching it, transmitting it or indeed if they reduce hospitalisations?

Don't believe me? Here's the associate editor of the BMJ and professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
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05/01/2021 19:56:49 1 5
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Seems people don't like facts.
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05/01/2021 20:01:11 5 0
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He is, however, speaking in a discussion article as opposed to a full research article. It is the same as you and me soundbiting in a pub while the actual people involved in the research are producing much more indepth evidence.
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05/01/2021 20:07:07 3 1
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a lot more data has been collected since last October and will continue to be collected. The picture will become clearer on transmission etc in time
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05/01/2021 20:01:16 0 2
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So are you going to refuse your jab?If yes perhaps they should slam you in prison in isolation for 28 days plus a £10k fin and a criminak record to boot
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05/01/2021 20:13:26 2 0
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At the moment you can find a 'professor' who will confirm your views, whatever they are.
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05/01/2021 19:50:04 121 8
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A reasonable amount of protection from getting any Covid plus the reported lack of serious symptoms if you do and no hospitalisation in all who take the Oxford AZ seems pretty good to me.

Now staying in until I get a jab with a high degree of confidence of a release some time this year.
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05/01/2021 19:59:47 26 6
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Agree but hope its much sooner than later. Beginning t suffer 4 wall syndrome, not quite taliing to them yet but that could be soon
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05/01/2021 21:04:55 2 5
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How are you going to get the jab if you are staying in?
06/01/2021 04:29:39 0 3
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Naive.
There have been deaths.
The risk of taking a rushed vaccine is not worth it, in my view.
But good luck to everyone who chooses to allow these chemicals into their bloodstreams.
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05/01/2021 19:50:09 8 12
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Generally good news but the changing of the second dose for the Pfizer vaccine is still somewhat concerning. I have had my first dose, then to be told my second dose has been cancelled against the recommendation of the manufacturer is a little troubling. Fingers crossed the change in policy does as intended and doesn't backfire.
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05/01/2021 19:53:11 27 5
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Wish I had my first jab, stop moaning!
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05/01/2021 19:54:31 8 4
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I think the government made the right decision when they changed the immunisation strategy. Pretty easy choice to make between saving twice as many lives or having you feel less concerned or troubled.
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05/01/2021 19:59:05 2 7
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Ah, one of the most entitled generation. "I should be treated first, because I paid in all my life..."
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05/01/2021 19:47:47 8 11
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Where ?? Not a lot of people in Wales been vaccinated
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05/01/2021 19:50:28 8 0
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You need to ask your fm why?
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DSA
05/01/2021 19:49:00 10 3
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Great, and what we need now are clear unambiguous instructions on what we can and can't do during the lockdown after we have been vaccinated.
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37p
05/01/2021 19:50:40 10 1
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That's something that really will need to be stated soon.
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05/01/2021 20:30:52 1 0
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Why? Need data first
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05/01/2021 19:46:43 9 24
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Yesterday bojo said the uk had vaccinated more than Europe combined

Yet today he said uk had vaccinated more than any other European country

Maybe someone told him some facts about the countries in Europe or was it another lie and another uturn
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05/01/2021 19:50:48 16 2
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Both are true. Germany has vaccinated 260k people and that is more than every other EU country combined. U.K. has managed 1.3m
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05/01/2021 19:58:51 1 2
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Not true

How many have Russia vaccinated who are in Europe

You do know Europe is a large continent and some might even put Israel in Europe

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
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05/01/2021 19:47:47 8 11
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Where ?? Not a lot of people in Wales been vaccinated
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05/01/2021 19:50:53 2 0
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I have 2 family members who work in nhs and both had their 2nd dose yesterday along with other colleagues
Staff were selected as people didn't turn up as they had spare doses
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05/01/2021 19:48:15 11 20
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Good job?

Are you deluded
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05/01/2021 19:50:56 5 1
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No. Are you?
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05/01/2021 19:51:00 9 9
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Vaccination is important but to stop cancer and liver transplantation surgery is wrong as most COVID patients can be managed on a ward in Florence Nightingale hospital. Cancer and complex transplantation surgery however can only be done in Specialist Hospitals which have been asked to suspend Specialist Services. Madness and total lack of knowledge and insight.
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05/01/2021 19:55:16 9 2
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there are no staff to manage the Nightingales due to them being sick/isolating etc
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05/01/2021 19:55:27 6 1
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When TB and polio were common we had seperate hospitals to quaritine and treat them. This kept the infection of ill people down. Now we just send them to the same hospital.
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05/01/2021 19:55:33 2 2
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They dismantled the Nightingale Hospitals weeks ago. Seen inside. All gone ???????
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05/01/2021 19:51:05 238 20
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2 million a week to be immunised? I'll take that.
Let's get it done so we can get on with our lives and put an end to the economic, educational and emotional devastation.
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05/01/2021 19:55:33 83 265
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And that is the delusion. The vaccines have not been tested to see if they stop people catching it, transmitting it or indeed if they reduce hospitalisations. The Government's own advice is that people may still have to wear masks etc.

Bemused that people do not understand this basic fact

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
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05/01/2021 20:25:23 7 4
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Oh Barry...if only we were all so very simple
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05/01/2021 22:24:37 2 3
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Keep dreaming
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05/01/2021 19:54:48 2 4
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But the vaccine doesn’t offer immunity (as stated by Pfizer and AstraZeneca) and doesn’t cover for any mutations.
Have you not listened when the so called experts have all said, ‘you will never return to normal’?
Talk to Klaus Schwab, he’ll explain!
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05/01/2021 22:37:19 1 0
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Vaccines will help but there is a big danger that expectations are too high.
We have had 'flu vaccines for years but our hospitals were struggling every winter long before Covid came along.
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05/01/2021 22:39:21 1 0
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Flu mutates every year and the 'best bet' vaccine is used to pretty good effect each year. Coronavirus, by the sounds of it, will do the same (already has), so I'd say we'll be playing catch-up for years to come.

Hopeful for the current vaccine, but it seems that logistics that could have been predicted months ago may stymie the rollout.

Bojo is a JOKE!...
05/01/2021 23:24:20 1 1
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But you wont be able to because you will have to wait 3 months for part 2 and during that time you can infect a lot of people . The vulnerable will always be vulnerable . Take them out of the picture with both doses THEN you can get on with you so called life
06/01/2021 00:30:06 2 0
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No, 2 million a week to get 56% protection against severe COVID. They will not be immune
06/01/2021 02:39:47 1 1
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Yes, lets all inject our blood stream with a vaccine that has been rushed out.
You can. And good luck.
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05/01/2021 19:46:43 9 24
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Yesterday bojo said the uk had vaccinated more than Europe combined

Yet today he said uk had vaccinated more than any other European country

Maybe someone told him some facts about the countries in Europe or was it another lie and another uturn
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05/01/2021 19:51:17 0 1
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Perhaps other EU countries have started their programs?
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05/01/2021 20:05:00 1 3
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You do know the difference between the EU and Europe

BOTH today and yesterday bojo quoted EUROPE not EU
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05/01/2021 19:50:09 8 12
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Generally good news but the changing of the second dose for the Pfizer vaccine is still somewhat concerning. I have had my first dose, then to be told my second dose has been cancelled against the recommendation of the manufacturer is a little troubling. Fingers crossed the change in policy does as intended and doesn't backfire.
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05/01/2021 19:53:11 27 5
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Wish I had my first jab, stop moaning!
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05/01/2021 22:32:33 0 0
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S/he is not moaning. Suffering from a trust vacuum, probably.
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05/01/2021 19:53:52 5 21
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How many over 80's, morbidly obese and type 2 diabetics were in the vaccine trials again?

Oh that's a relief because I was thinking that those who might actually be the hardest to immunise (and of course immunised first) or the most likely to affected by C19 might be accidentally not represented that much in the trials by the commercial organisations looking to make billions out of this.
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05/01/2021 19:58:24 12 1
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Another doom merchant.
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05/01/2021 19:59:18 6 0
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As in the vast majority of drug trials, such people would not be deemed fit enough for them. It is deemed as not ethical to put such people in a trial. The last thing any research team wants is relatives screaming "Your drug killed my grandma" when, in fact, it was much more likely to be their current illnesses.

Such patients lead to seriously flawed trial results.
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05/01/2021 19:53:54 10 19
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So vaccines coming but the NHS won’t cope next winter ??. If that really is true it’s time the Torys moved over and let someone else have a go, 10 years of running it down for privatisation ... an absolute disgrace, people not getting vital cancer treatment etc....unforgivable . The Conservative party really are the uncaring nasty party ??????
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05/01/2021 20:03:29 7 0
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This goes against the generally acceptable courteous views, but the NHS and some of it's staff need to brush up a bit. Throughout the pandemic NHS doctors and dentists and have been near impossible to see, yet private practice doctors and dentists have been taking appointments. Sadly, like most I can't afford private health care.
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05/01/2021 19:45:49 27 17
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But my 90 year old mother has heard nothing. No vaccine, no appointment, no estimate of when she might get an appointment.

I’d like some information about how it is decided who the lucky ones are going to be.
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05/01/2021 19:54:01 17 4
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Mine neither
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05/01/2021 19:46:43 9 24
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Yesterday bojo said the uk had vaccinated more than Europe combined

Yet today he said uk had vaccinated more than any other European country

Maybe someone told him some facts about the countries in Europe or was it another lie and another uturn
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05/01/2021 19:48:35 9 3
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No, vaccinated more than Europe.
Had we remained in the EU we would be waiting in line to begin.
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05/01/2021 20:09:51 4 1
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No every eu member had the choice to wait for EMA and act as one in unity or use emergency rules to go on their own

Uk technically was still under eu rules in december and CHOSE to go alone using said emergency rules

Shows again how little you know how the eu works
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05/01/2021 19:45:49 27 17
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But my 90 year old mother has heard nothing. No vaccine, no appointment, no estimate of when she might get an appointment.

I’d like some information about how it is decided who the lucky ones are going to be.
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05/01/2021 19:48:47 12 0
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They will get to her. My dad is waiting to hear from his surgery - they started doing them yesterday. My mums started before Christmas. It will happen
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05/01/2021 19:49:40 15 2
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Lots of our customers are elderly and many have had the vaccine already in London
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05/01/2021 20:17:57 15 13
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No, they have had half a vaccine.
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05/01/2021 19:51:28 18 20
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1.3 million in UK have had their Covid vaccine.

No they haven't, 1.3 million people have had half a vaccine.
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05/01/2021 20:00:39 7 4
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no some have had the full dose before the plan was changed.
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DSA
05/01/2021 19:49:00 10 3
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Great, and what we need now are clear unambiguous instructions on what we can and can't do during the lockdown after we have been vaccinated.
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05/01/2021 19:51:33 3 4
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Nothing. The makers of the vaccines have stated quite clearly that they don’t offer any immunity.
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05/01/2021 20:04:48 4 0
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That's not true, no one died / hospitalised with Covid who had AZ-Oxford vaccine and only one person hospitalised with Covid who had Pfizer vaccine. So you will be fine, but need to be careful not to pass on Covid as it becomes like a short lived cold.
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05/01/2021 19:50:09 8 12
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Generally good news but the changing of the second dose for the Pfizer vaccine is still somewhat concerning. I have had my first dose, then to be told my second dose has been cancelled against the recommendation of the manufacturer is a little troubling. Fingers crossed the change in policy does as intended and doesn't backfire.
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05/01/2021 19:54:31 8 4
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I think the government made the right decision when they changed the immunisation strategy. Pretty easy choice to make between saving twice as many lives or having you feel less concerned or troubled.
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05/01/2021 19:49:32 140 17
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Good to hear the total vaccinated population stats will be updated and published daily: scrutinising the whole rollout in every way possible is essential to make sure it succeeds as best as possible, with transparency of information critical to this.
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37p
05/01/2021 19:54:36 65 12
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They've been published for the last 3 weeks on the government coronavirus website.
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05/01/2021 21:05:58 3 0
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That needs to be communicated effectively! That is an unknownto most people.
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05/01/2021 21:49:10 8 0
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Only on a weekly basis, they are promising daily updates.
05/01/2021 23:27:52 1 3
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Yep a really eeeer reliable unbiased website...Strange, very diff to NHS records...Oh well neither have sung the same tune throughout...
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05/01/2021 19:54:50 62 9
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I would love to see a detailed analysis of the quarter million who have tested positive this last few days. How did they get the virus?
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05/01/2021 19:56:45 52 8
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Not from a vaccine, because it is scientifically impossible.....
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05/01/2021 19:57:36 16 2
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Shopping in London?
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05/01/2021 19:59:42 4 2
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I completely agree
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05/01/2021 19:58:09 15 4
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From people who didn’t follow the rules blowing covid protein shells in their face, that’s how.
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05/01/2021 20:22:51 8 3
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Agree. Funny how we don't get to see this information - I am sure it is available somewhere. I wonder what it would tell us ?
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05/01/2021 20:41:33 16 8
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My wife works in a hospital. Most beds are full of patients with Covid. Further investigation uncovered that most of those patients were in hospital for other reasons such as ops or old people waiting for packages of care. Whilst in hospital they contracted Covid. That is why hospitals are full of Covid patients.
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05/01/2021 20:48:09 20 0
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I got infected from a care home my wife works at. All but 2 residents and 6 carers became infected before any symptoms shown.The carers took it home unaware.So 50+ people that adhered strictly to the rules,but became infected through no fault of their own. Full PPE worn at all times (except for the ones who were infected in their own homes (me).So it isnt all ignorance that is causing the spread.
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05/01/2021 21:45:52 5 1
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Well, schools seem to have been fingered for some of the blame but any visit for 'necessary' shopping reveals the continuing stupidity of much of the population.
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05/01/2021 22:03:57 3 1
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Agreed - I'd love to see it as well. Certainly this is critical information when making decisions about lock down? Why is this not being published?
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05/01/2021 22:45:29 1 1
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They got it from Santa. Christmas should have been cancelled.
05/01/2021 23:05:34 5 2
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Hair dressers have only recently shut. It takes time to develop COVID and then get tested. The new variant spreads more easily. I went out the other day to find no one wearing a mask, and walking past each other closely. Often families taking up the whole path, 3 wide, and not moving over as you pass. Plus talking loudly right as you pass them. Not getting they need at maintain at least 1 m.
05/01/2021 23:39:44 2 0
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...and the age of them all ...and what they did at Christmas . Drove across Tower Bridge last Sunday . Lots of tourists . Not one mask and no social distancing
06/01/2021 00:58:59 1 0
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And how many don't have any symptoms and does this test rule out cold and flu as the flu seems to have disappeared.
06/01/2021 05:00:51 0 0
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Caught it from someone?
Just a wild guess.
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05/01/2021 19:55:01 8 13
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Not going to make 2 million a day anytime soon.
Currently: not enough quality checkers
Soon: not able to get the vaccine into enough glass delivery vials
Next: Not enough delivery staff / vehicles
Then: Lack on Needles
Finally: Not enough staff

How many ways can Johnson fa
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05/01/2021 20:15:36 3 1
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Quote from the article:
"He said there would be a ramping up to get more people immunised - up to 2 million a week."

Maybe you need a vaccine against being too lazy in not trying to even comprehend the difference between a "day" and a "week"??
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05/01/2021 19:47:47 8 11
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Where ?? Not a lot of people in Wales been vaccinated
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05/01/2021 19:55:16 0 1
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Yep..last week they'd managed a whole 0.72 per cent
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05/01/2021 19:51:00 9 9
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Vaccination is important but to stop cancer and liver transplantation surgery is wrong as most COVID patients can be managed on a ward in Florence Nightingale hospital. Cancer and complex transplantation surgery however can only be done in Specialist Hospitals which have been asked to suspend Specialist Services. Madness and total lack of knowledge and insight.
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05/01/2021 19:55:16 9 2
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there are no staff to manage the Nightingales due to them being sick/isolating etc
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05/01/2021 19:51:00 9 9
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Vaccination is important but to stop cancer and liver transplantation surgery is wrong as most COVID patients can be managed on a ward in Florence Nightingale hospital. Cancer and complex transplantation surgery however can only be done in Specialist Hospitals which have been asked to suspend Specialist Services. Madness and total lack of knowledge and insight.
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05/01/2021 19:55:27 6 1
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When TB and polio were common we had seperate hospitals to quaritine and treat them. This kept the infection of ill people down. Now we just send them to the same hospital.
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05/01/2021 19:55:28 235 46
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I am a vet and can become an inoculator in no time. Where do we sign up? Let's do 13 mln in 6 weeks. Leading the world. Rule Britannia.
Back to life on St. Valentine's Day.
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05/01/2021 20:06:41 71 252
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Dream on its the UK shambles you live in... Zzzzzz
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05/01/2021 20:27:11 16 46
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Whatever you’re on mate...this nation is f**^^ed because of fancy Dan Tory voters who have no concept of how economics work.
If it were a horse....
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05/01/2021 20:56:28 13 3
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You need to do your radicalisation awareness training module first
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05/01/2021 20:48:20 11 8
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thank you for your service , im sorry for the people who down voted it shows the sort of world we live in when people seem to actually want things to get worse
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05/01/2021 21:11:31 3 2
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Would be nice wouldn't it. Seem to be a few too many hoops to jump through first.
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05/01/2021 21:20:22 4 2
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Great idea. But unlikely we would have the vaccine supply to accomplish this.
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05/01/2021 21:51:54 1 2
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Need all kinds of diversity training. Probably best forget about it, but thank you for caring.
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05/01/2021 22:01:45 2 2
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BBC burnout this is just a sticking plaster be lucky to be done by summer 2022 to many u turns by Boris only forced in lockdown by captain ????? hindsight got in first
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05/01/2021 22:42:38 3 2
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Sad that a good intention - to help vaccinate and save lives -
morphs into some jingoistic nonsense.
Our first vaccine came from Germany and Belgium - created by a Turkish immigrant and funded by a US corporation.
Let's just focus on helping everyone possible. This is not some sort of nationalistic football league.
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05/01/2021 22:48:26 1 4
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Sadly you need your certificate in "racial equality training" and a dozen or more absolutely irellevant subjects. What a joke.....................
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05/01/2021 22:50:38 2 2
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And the dentists and pharmacists and NHS health visitors, and basically mobilise everyone who is LEGALLY LICENCED to stab people with a syringe needle. I'd grant VETs a quick licence for people too.
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05/01/2021 22:53:20 1 2
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UK is shambles. Laughing stock of the world, brexit and now covid mismanagement
05/01/2021 23:55:25 1 0
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You may be a vet but personally I’d rather an NHS clinician vaccinate me.
Well that’s what my owner says!
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06/01/2021 00:07:32 1 0
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Remember that when vaccinating humans you have to change needles between “patients”!??
06/01/2021 00:42:02 1 0
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Israel has vaccinated a bigger % of its population than the UK. Which year for Valentine's Day? Certainly not this one.
06/01/2021 00:50:55 1 0
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The British obsession with "leading the world". Yet it so rarely does.
06/01/2021 00:48:17 1 0
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If that post wasn't an attempt at irony, I feel very sorry for you.
06/01/2021 03:40:24 1 1
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Hahahaha you have to be joking, right?
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05/01/2021 19:51:05 238 20
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2 million a week to be immunised? I'll take that.
Let's get it done so we can get on with our lives and put an end to the economic, educational and emotional devastation.
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05/01/2021 19:55:33 83 265
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And that is the delusion. The vaccines have not been tested to see if they stop people catching it, transmitting it or indeed if they reduce hospitalisations. The Government's own advice is that people may still have to wear masks etc.

Bemused that people do not understand this basic fact

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
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05/01/2021 20:03:42 15 7
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Potential evidence to the contrary:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jinf.2020.12.023
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05/01/2021 20:16:55 14 65
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My mask is off the second I’ve had it.
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05/01/2021 20:19:42 18 7
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I reckon you are frequently bemused.
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05/01/2021 20:29:25 35 6
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This is absolute nonsense,reduces hospitalisations and no serious illness or deaths from those vaccinated out of thousands in the trials.Vaccines signal the immune system to attack the virus when you catch it doh. You wear masks to stop you spreading it as they are not sure you can't spread it.
I'm bemused there are people as thick as you. Frightening. Removed
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05/01/2021 20:40:28 9 3
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I think you need to read that article again. Try a little more slowly this time.
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05/01/2021 20:49:58 4 8
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I think you are the only sane one on here - if people think they can then live as normal the we are doomed! Even if the UK variant ticks ALL the boxes the latest more concerning one is the SA mutant - already present in 5 countries as at Dec 30
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05/01/2021 21:05:37 8 2
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Think carefully! I have mild asthma so have flu
Jab every year. For 30 odd years I didn’t catch flu, 2 yrs ago I did. I nearly died. I’m 50!

So as most we have to be careful to try not to catch the flu.

Covid jab should give a much higher protection than flu jab lot have every year but I will still be wearing a mask. Will you??

I for 1 am VERY happy to take that risk.
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05/01/2021 21:13:19 7 4
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And the world is flat, JFK was shot by David Ike and Diana was an alien. Obviously you are right. Everything is rubbish so lets do nothing......yawn.

Do you live in Area 51?
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05/01/2021 21:20:21 6 1
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But it will stop them going to hospital. THAT is the point.
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05/01/2021 21:24:17 4 2
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And your BMJ link was written 3 months ago.
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05/01/2021 21:31:50 6 1
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But only because it would take too long to prove to a statistically acceptable level that they stop transmission or reduce hospitalizations, it doesn't mean that it won't. And waiting to find out if it did would cost lives and trash ths economy further. It has been proven to drastically reduce infection and not cause obvious harm that is all that can be expected at this stage.
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05/01/2021 21:38:40 6 3
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Err they have been tested and approved, where have you been
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05/01/2021 21:41:45 5 3
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It has been proven stops hospital admissions and deaths.isnt that something to hang on to. Although not publicised by bbc as its good news. ??
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05/01/2021 22:39:09 0 3
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Of course they were tested for this - what do you think the phase 3 trial was for !!!!
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05/01/2021 22:49:26 1 2
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My glass is half empty. Miserable git.
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05/01/2021 22:59:07 1 3
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'The vaccines have not been tested to see if they stop people catching it,'
...............
Nonsense. Stop spreading misinformation. It endangers lives.
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05/01/2021 23:00:14 1 2
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They have been tested to save us from dying immediately. What planet are you wingers on?
This is a new virus we can test further in time.
I’m happy to be getting it very soon
05/01/2021 23:18:38 1 2
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Of course the vaccines have been tested in relation to hospital admissions- no one who was vaccinated ended up in hospital with Covid - no one.
06/01/2021 02:43:51 1 0
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You are right.
And on top of that, the vaccines have been rushed (for economic reasons)
All government cares about is the economy.

Still, good luck to everyone who allows their bloodstream to be injected with these vaccines.

But realize that you are guinea pigs - extending the clinical trials for these multi-national billionaire businesses.
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But my 90 year old mother has heard nothing. No vaccine, no appointment, no estimate of when she might get an appointment.

I’d like some information about how it is decided who the lucky ones are going to be.
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05/01/2021 19:55:41 12 0
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I was like you this morning, then got the magic texts for my mum and dad to arrange appointments this week. Please forgive me if you've done this, but check your Mum's GP has an up to date mobile phone number for you, then you can arrange the booking. The GPs are communicating by text. It's a good booking system. Hope you get the call soon!
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05/01/2021 20:46:05 3 3
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My 97yr old mother is sitting by the phone in her flat.... still waiting. I've recently emailed her Surgery, reply is that they are waiting for Gov instructions. My brothers also emailed Surgery [Worthing, South Coast) similar reply. I think areas are being targeted re the level of virus etc and are receiving priority. It's frustrating !
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05/01/2021 21:15:32 6 1
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Meanwhile, for those of us who do not possess a mobile phone.............

Too much in today's world seems to depend on these horrible devices.
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05/01/2021 19:54:50 62 9
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I would love to see a detailed analysis of the quarter million who have tested positive this last few days. How did they get the virus?
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05/01/2021 19:56:45 52 8
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Not from a vaccine, because it is scientifically impossible.....
06/01/2021 05:01:47 1 1
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No it isn't.
It depends how the vaccine was manufactured.
06/01/2021 15:31:33 0 0
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But easily from the immediate environment.
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05/01/2021 19:49:49 8 14
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"significant degree of immunity" how does that work as none of the vaccines have been trialed to see if they stop people catching it, transmitting it or indeed if they reduce hospitalisations?

Don't believe me? Here's the associate editor of the BMJ and professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
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05/01/2021 19:56:49 1 5
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Seems people don't like facts.
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05/01/2021 19:57:04 3 7
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half the vaccine against the guidance of the manufacturer
is this doing something so it looks done?
or is it done, done?
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05/01/2021 20:00:12 7 2
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The manufacturer said two doses 28 days apart were the optimum for complete protection. However they said two people could get 70 percent with one.
One dose gives better protection for society not the individual.
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05/01/2021 19:54:50 62 9
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I would love to see a detailed analysis of the quarter million who have tested positive this last few days. How did they get the virus?
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05/01/2021 19:57:36 16 2
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Shopping in London?
06/01/2021 05:02:31 0 0
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Not bright.
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05/01/2021 19:43:57 9 12
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Let’s just pray it’s effective against the S African Strain
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05/01/2021 19:57:38 4 1
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Yes, I'm afraid my plan to support South Africa with a family holiday late this year is on hold pending more information on this variant.
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05/01/2021 19:58:23 89 14
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A recently retired senior nurse in my family and four of her colleagues got together to put themselves forward to help with voluntarily administering the vaccine. Despite nearly 200 yrs of experience between them it’s not been possible due to the scale of the bureaucracy involved. The fear of litigation and fee justification by external consultants seems to be the primary concern.
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05/01/2021 20:06:52 86 9
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Most likely the NHS has just banged out a standard training list and no one checked it. Conflixt resolution and Diversity training isn't important in this instance- a real pity that this sort of thing gets in the way.
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05/01/2021 20:41:30 16 1
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You more than anyone must know what is wrong with the NHS. Bureaucracy and mismanagement have been rampant for years. The face workers take the strain and the middle management, many unqualified, are inefficient in the extreme.
To maintain public credibility the NHS needs to get this vaccination programme right, I have my doubts about the staffers.
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05/01/2021 21:14:33 12 2
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I am a senior registered nurse with over 40 years experience in acute hospital units. I completed the e-learning covid courses. Gave up with red tape to complete the application its farcical, requesting certificates for Conflict Resolution, Prevent Radicalisation, Fire Course, Safeguarding Children [The Covid vaccine is not even approved for children] Highest Education Certificate, list goes on.
06/01/2021 08:45:11 0 1
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The problem of massively centralised power that we have in the uk. Give regions much more autonomy and they would be signed up already.
06/01/2021 13:26:07 0 1
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Sorry but that's pathetic. These roles are being paid they are not voluntary. A person will be employed and must undertake a course to ensure they are up to date with policy and guidance. I too am an ex nurse and have completed the course. Its not difficult and if you were starting a new job, an induction over 2 or 3 days would be needed covering all these topics. The course takes its place.
06/01/2021 14:23:21 0 0
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Anyone can give vaccine just go to NHS jobs website and apply
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05/01/2021 19:53:52 5 21
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How many over 80's, morbidly obese and type 2 diabetics were in the vaccine trials again?

Oh that's a relief because I was thinking that those who might actually be the hardest to immunise (and of course immunised first) or the most likely to affected by C19 might be accidentally not represented that much in the trials by the commercial organisations looking to make billions out of this.
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05/01/2021 19:58:24 12 1
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Another doom merchant.
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05/01/2021 19:58:24 24 10
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Let Trump go to China for his golf...
We certainly don't want him
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05/01/2021 19:58:26 8 8
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Concerned that people are not getting their second dose when they should be. Hope that this does not make the first one ineffective. Also hope that the virus does not have time to mutate.
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Let’s just pray it’s effective against the S African Strain
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05/01/2021 19:52:39 0 0
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Haha you know it isn’t right?
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05/01/2021 19:51:00 9 9
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Vaccination is important but to stop cancer and liver transplantation surgery is wrong as most COVID patients can be managed on a ward in Florence Nightingale hospital. Cancer and complex transplantation surgery however can only be done in Specialist Hospitals which have been asked to suspend Specialist Services. Madness and total lack of knowledge and insight.
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05/01/2021 19:55:33 2 2
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They dismantled the Nightingale Hospitals weeks ago. Seen inside. All gone ???????
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05/01/2021 19:58:45 7 11
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The figure of those who have received their vaccinations is incorrect. Those who have had Pzifer vaccinations have only had one as it appears the second will be given 12 weeks later not 3 weeks as research states. Many wont go back for their second as the impression is the second doesn't matter
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05/01/2021 19:58:50 16 4
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About time they started publishing this data daily as it’s crucial. The rollout should accelerate significantly now but ideally more than 1/4 of the 80+ age group would’ve been done already.
There’ll obviously be logistical issues but it was disappointing to hear the vaccinations were paused not just on Christmas Day but on the 26th and 27th as it’s so crucial a three day break can’t be justified.
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05/01/2021 20:03:52 11 2
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I agree. Who ok'd that one?
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The government website is already publishing the numbers of vaccinations: see coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
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05/01/2021 19:50:48 16 2
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Both are true. Germany has vaccinated 260k people and that is more than every other EU country combined. U.K. has managed 1.3m
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05/01/2021 19:58:51 1 2
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Not true

How many have Russia vaccinated who are in Europe

You do know Europe is a large continent and some might even put Israel in Europe

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
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05/01/2021 19:58:59 8 1
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I would love to see the breakdown of numbers vaccinated here in Wales, I bet it's not good.
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05/01/2021 20:09:37 7 0
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Its published on gov
Uk. Take a look.
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05/01/2021 19:50:09 8 12
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Generally good news but the changing of the second dose for the Pfizer vaccine is still somewhat concerning. I have had my first dose, then to be told my second dose has been cancelled against the recommendation of the manufacturer is a little troubling. Fingers crossed the change in policy does as intended and doesn't backfire.
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05/01/2021 19:59:05 2 7
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Ah, one of the most entitled generation. "I should be treated first, because I paid in all my life..."
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05/01/2021 20:05:56 6 0
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I am very grateful to have had the first dose. My point is I hope we dont find out that going against the manufacturer guidance was a mistake. If the strategy works that is brilliant. I hope you all get yours asap.
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05/01/2021 19:53:52 5 21
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How many over 80's, morbidly obese and type 2 diabetics were in the vaccine trials again?

Oh that's a relief because I was thinking that those who might actually be the hardest to immunise (and of course immunised first) or the most likely to affected by C19 might be accidentally not represented that much in the trials by the commercial organisations looking to make billions out of this.
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05/01/2021 19:59:18 6 0
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As in the vast majority of drug trials, such people would not be deemed fit enough for them. It is deemed as not ethical to put such people in a trial. The last thing any research team wants is relatives screaming "Your drug killed my grandma" when, in fact, it was much more likely to be their current illnesses.

Such patients lead to seriously flawed trial results.
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05/01/2021 19:45:49 27 17
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But my 90 year old mother has heard nothing. No vaccine, no appointment, no estimate of when she might get an appointment.

I’d like some information about how it is decided who the lucky ones are going to be.
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05/01/2021 19:54:50 62 9
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I would love to see a detailed analysis of the quarter million who have tested positive this last few days. How did they get the virus?
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05/01/2021 19:59:42 4 2
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I completely agree
06/01/2021 05:03:36 1 2
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They will never tell you.
They just need guinea pigs to continue their fast-tracked and rushed clinical trials.
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05/01/2021 19:59:46 11 11
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Correction: 1.3million people have had half their vaccine against covid-19.
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05/01/2021 21:52:50 0 0
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is the first do dose half the vaccine, that is the same amount as the 2nd.
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05/01/2021 19:57:04 3 7
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half the vaccine against the guidance of the manufacturer
is this doing something so it looks done?
or is it done, done?
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05/01/2021 20:00:12 7 2
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The manufacturer said two doses 28 days apart were the optimum for complete protection. However they said two people could get 70 percent with one.
One dose gives better protection for society not the individual.
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05/01/2021 20:11:39 0 0
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This is not necessarily true, since the evidence around vaccination is about the protection to the individual (reduced severity of disease, reduced complications).

If you want the best protect for society, then reduce the burden on hospitals by adequately vaccinating the high risk groups who are the ones being admitted and dying of covid first. Then worry about mass rollout to healthy people.
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05/01/2021 19:45:49 27 17
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But my 90 year old mother has heard nothing. No vaccine, no appointment, no estimate of when she might get an appointment.

I’d like some information about how it is decided who the lucky ones are going to be.
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05/01/2021 20:00:17 6 1
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Same here, and I know of people outside of the top 4 groups that have been vaccinated.
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05/01/2021 20:00:23 1 0
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Does the UK have delivery priority for the AstraZeneca vaccine?
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05/01/2021 20:02:41 2 5
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No
USA who invested the most will

Remember uk only gave 65m
Yet USA gave1.2bn

Hope that makes sense to you
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05/01/2021 20:08:56 2 2
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Haven't you been watching the news, the UK Govt have ordered 100million doses
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05/01/2021 20:00:35 12 4
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If cases in society were under reported in the first wave I see no reason why hospitalisations were not under reported too due to the lack of testing. The sombrero looks to have been squashed in this second wave even even with the new variant, so it looks like a better response all round.
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05/01/2021 19:51:28 18 20
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1.3 million in UK have had their Covid vaccine.

No they haven't, 1.3 million people have had half a vaccine.
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05/01/2021 20:00:39 7 4
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no some have had the full dose before the plan was changed.
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05/01/2021 20:17:17 0 0
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How many?
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05/01/2021 20:01:09 14 9
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New daily cases 5 January

New cases increased in many EU countries, but UK accounting for a third of new cases in Europe

United Kingdom 60,916

Austria, Belgium, Croatia Czechia Denmark Estonia Finland France Greece Germany Ireland Italy Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Romania Spain Switzerland Slovakia Slovenia Sweden Turkey

Total EU27 - 124,843
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05/01/2021 20:04:17 15 3
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Test positivity in UK today is not significantly worse than most of the big European nations.
Mate, come on, don't use facts. It doesn't work with the Brexit Britain mentality

Just pretend that the country isn't being run by an adulterous, lying, cheating ERG puppet who was repeatedly sacked from jobs as a journalist for making stuff up (before going to to criticise sensational media), remember we're doing better than *insert country* and be proud we're going to get blue passports
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05/01/2021 20:07:30 4 4
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And your point is?
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05/01/2021 20:11:32 10 5
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We test more.
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05/01/2021 20:27:16 0 0
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What happened to Hungary?
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05/01/2021 21:00:16 4 1
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If you believe those eu numbers you believe anything.
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05/01/2021 21:16:29 0 0
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and you really dont know why ?the new strain started here and is now going round the world im sorry to say the rest of the world will catch up if not now in a few weeks
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05/01/2021 19:49:49 8 14
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"significant degree of immunity" how does that work as none of the vaccines have been trialed to see if they stop people catching it, transmitting it or indeed if they reduce hospitalisations?

Don't believe me? Here's the associate editor of the BMJ and professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
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05/01/2021 20:01:11 5 0
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He is, however, speaking in a discussion article as opposed to a full research article. It is the same as you and me soundbiting in a pub while the actual people involved in the research are producing much more indepth evidence.
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05/01/2021 20:10:32 3 3
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Silly me I should have known there would be someone here more qualified than the professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy.
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05/01/2021 20:00:23 1 0
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Does the UK have delivery priority for the AstraZeneca vaccine?
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05/01/2021 20:02:41 2 5
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No
USA who invested the most will

Remember uk only gave 65m
Yet USA gave1.2bn

Hope that makes sense to you
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05/01/2021 19:53:54 10 19
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So vaccines coming but the NHS won’t cope next winter ??. If that really is true it’s time the Torys moved over and let someone else have a go, 10 years of running it down for privatisation ... an absolute disgrace, people not getting vital cancer treatment etc....unforgivable . The Conservative party really are the uncaring nasty party ??????
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05/01/2021 20:03:29 7 0
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This goes against the generally acceptable courteous views, but the NHS and some of it's staff need to brush up a bit. Throughout the pandemic NHS doctors and dentists and have been near impossible to see, yet private practice doctors and dentists have been taking appointments. Sadly, like most I can't afford private health care.
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05/01/2021 20:03:38 16 17
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I have been sympathetic to the Government up until now. Of course mistakes have been made as it has been such an unknown quantity.

However, allowing Christmas gatherings and schools to go back for a day were truly appalling decisions which are, and will, have catastrophic consequences over the coming months.

Enough is enough.
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05/01/2021 20:08:21 14 1
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I agree.
However, having some as staggeringly incompetent as Williamson at the helm was bound to lead to catastrophe in the schools.
His arrogance and stupidity is damaging many lives.
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05/01/2021 20:09:50 4 1
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To be honest, I think they were abysmal from day one. Why on earth they didn't at least do temperature checks on people arriving from outside the UK at any point before March is beyond me. That alone would have probably saved thousands of lives and billions of pounds.
Then there was the Barnard Castle episode....
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05/01/2021 19:55:33 83 265
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And that is the delusion. The vaccines have not been tested to see if they stop people catching it, transmitting it or indeed if they reduce hospitalisations. The Government's own advice is that people may still have to wear masks etc.

Bemused that people do not understand this basic fact

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
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05/01/2021 20:03:42 15 7
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Potential evidence to the contrary:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jinf.2020.12.023
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05/01/2021 20:14:30 26 24
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Got my jab tomorrow as a frontline NHS worker, the information given prior to and after all highlight that the jabs will not make you immune to the virus, but will reduce the severity of an infection. Also, it is not know whether you will still be able to carry the virus and it won't stop you spreading it. I anticipate this farce to continue, goodbye life as we knew it.
06/01/2021 02:44:46 0 1
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No, it is not.
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05/01/2021 19:58:50 16 4
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About time they started publishing this data daily as it’s crucial. The rollout should accelerate significantly now but ideally more than 1/4 of the 80+ age group would’ve been done already.
There’ll obviously be logistical issues but it was disappointing to hear the vaccinations were paused not just on Christmas Day but on the 26th and 27th as it’s so crucial a three day break can’t be justified.
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05/01/2021 20:03:52 11 2
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I agree. Who ok'd that one?
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05/01/2021 20:24:21 4 0
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It might make sense in terms of the storage conditions for the vaccine and staffing levels. If folk are less likely to attend on those days they probably didn't want to break open boxes and risk not using it all. Every dose in the bin is a potential life lost. I don't know if that is definitely the case but it seems possible.
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05/01/2021 20:01:09 14 9
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New daily cases 5 January

New cases increased in many EU countries, but UK accounting for a third of new cases in Europe

United Kingdom 60,916

Austria, Belgium, Croatia Czechia Denmark Estonia Finland France Greece Germany Ireland Italy Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Romania Spain Switzerland Slovakia Slovenia Sweden Turkey

Total EU27 - 124,843
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05/01/2021 20:04:17 15 3
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Test positivity in UK today is not significantly worse than most of the big European nations.
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05/01/2021 20:09:54 6 5
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UK at 60,916 is 3 times higher than France 20,489, the second highest in recorded in Europe
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05/01/2021 19:51:33 3 4
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Nothing. The makers of the vaccines have stated quite clearly that they don’t offer any immunity.
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05/01/2021 20:04:48 4 0
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That's not true, no one died / hospitalised with Covid who had AZ-Oxford vaccine and only one person hospitalised with Covid who had Pfizer vaccine. So you will be fine, but need to be careful not to pass on Covid as it becomes like a short lived cold.
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05/01/2021 19:51:17 0 1
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Perhaps other EU countries have started their programs?
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05/01/2021 20:05:00 1 3
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You do know the difference between the EU and Europe

BOTH today and yesterday bojo quoted EUROPE not EU
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DSA
05/01/2021 19:49:00 10 3
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Great, and what we need now are clear unambiguous instructions on what we can and can't do during the lockdown after we have been vaccinated.
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05/01/2021 20:05:15 7 0
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Stay at home until lockdown ends as you may still infect others
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05/01/2021 20:13:45 3 1
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Interestingly with the AZ Oxford vaccine it reduced the number asymptomatic infections. Interestingly it wasn't that high anyway. The take away is that most people, something like 99.4% of people know they have Covid with the AZ Oxford vaccine. This wasn't tested with Pfizer so we don't know with that one, but is probably similar.
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05/01/2021 20:05:49 7 13
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If Johnson had locked down earlier how many of todays 830 lives could have been saved; omitted from the 5pm analysis
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05/01/2021 20:09:39 6 0
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Would probably have had to lockdown nearly a month ago too make any difference to todays death figures
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ed1
05/01/2021 20:15:03 1 2
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Zero. No evidence lockdowns save lives. Plenty of evidence they cost lives.
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05/01/2021 19:59:05 2 7
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Ah, one of the most entitled generation. "I should be treated first, because I paid in all my life..."
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05/01/2021 20:05:56 6 0
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I am very grateful to have had the first dose. My point is I hope we dont find out that going against the manufacturer guidance was a mistake. If the strategy works that is brilliant. I hope you all get yours asap.
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05/01/2021 20:01:09 14 9
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New daily cases 5 January

New cases increased in many EU countries, but UK accounting for a third of new cases in Europe

United Kingdom 60,916

Austria, Belgium, Croatia Czechia Denmark Estonia Finland France Greece Germany Ireland Italy Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Romania Spain Switzerland Slovakia Slovenia Sweden Turkey

Total EU27 - 124,843
Mate, come on, don't use facts. It doesn't work with the Brexit Britain mentality

Just pretend that the country isn't being run by an adulterous, lying, cheating ERG puppet who was repeatedly sacked from jobs as a journalist for making stuff up (before going to to criticise sensational media), remember we're doing better than *insert country* and be proud we're going to get blue passports
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Les
05/01/2021 20:06:37 119 13
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Having read through a good many of the comments on here I am astonished how poorly informed some people are and as a result come out with a complete load of tosh. Do you not listen to any of the scientific briefings ?
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05/01/2021 20:15:26 110 9
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They may listen but fail to understand and Sharon on Facebook said this is what is really happen so let's belive Sharon
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05/01/2021 21:31:32 15 0
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Les, if you want well-informed people I suggest you look elsewhere. Comments on HYS are good for a laugh, nothing more!
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05/01/2021 21:39:00 12 8
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Some of them believe what Johnson says too! No hope.
952
05/01/2021 22:53:17 10 1
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Of course they don't! It's so much easier to get false info from Facebook, Twitter or the geezer next door!
05/01/2021 23:38:00 4 1
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And do you not read all the published papers from the BMA on this subject. Politicians standing up and spouting is not a scientific briefing its a party political broadcast with information being supplied by very well paid 'consultants'
06/01/2021 04:33:16 1 0
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You obviously do.
So enlighten us, oh great one.
06/01/2021 11:09:46 0 0
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how much true and accurate information do you get from one of those?
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05/01/2021 19:55:28 235 46
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I am a vet and can become an inoculator in no time. Where do we sign up? Let's do 13 mln in 6 weeks. Leading the world. Rule Britannia.
Back to life on St. Valentine's Day.
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05/01/2021 20:06:41 71 252
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Dream on its the UK shambles you live in... Zzzzzz
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05/01/2021 20:13:36 49 8
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.......
289
05/01/2021 20:59:14 14 6
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Are you antivax or denier?
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Rob
05/01/2021 21:06:08 23 8
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Some people are just negative no matter what. LOL you should live in the EU where they are weeks behind us!

If we all pull together and help get our most vulnerable vaccinated ASAP and all abide by lockdown rules we can get on top of this fast. Lets make it happen. Great to see companies and people all stepping forward.

What we don't need are anti-vaccine nutters like in Stroud and Corbyn.
466
05/01/2021 21:38:33 5 5
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If you don't like it, don't live here
481
05/01/2021 21:40:45 5 3
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Actually it would be you that's the shambles , because of your mindset. Maybe if yiubchanged it you'd realise hie lucky you are .
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05/01/2021 21:42:28 5 3
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As if you’d be more likely to get vaccinated abroad ??
592
05/01/2021 21:54:11 1 2
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Try again in 40 years, sweetie
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05/01/2021 22:50:13 1 4
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Yaaaaaaaaaaawwwwnnnnnnnn. Time for bed sonny jim!
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05/01/2021 22:55:07 1 2
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"shambles uk". You need to look "puffin". Belgium has 50% more deaths per captia than the UK. All 27 EU states put together have not vaccinated as many people as the UK has. And this will kick in soon when immunity takes hold. The oldest people are by far at greatest risk of death. The of EU have only given one dose too BTW.
05/01/2021 23:03:03 0 1
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Puff
You are so nasty to swashbuckler, he wants to help us and you criticise him.
We are not in shambles.
05/01/2021 23:20:25 1 1
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Actually it isn’t which is why the UK has vaccinated more than in the entire EU.
06/01/2021 03:41:18 1 0
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Yes, and the shambles is being run by a moron called Johnson.
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05/01/2021 19:58:23 89 14
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A recently retired senior nurse in my family and four of her colleagues got together to put themselves forward to help with voluntarily administering the vaccine. Despite nearly 200 yrs of experience between them it’s not been possible due to the scale of the bureaucracy involved. The fear of litigation and fee justification by external consultants seems to be the primary concern.
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05/01/2021 20:06:52 86 9
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Most likely the NHS has just banged out a standard training list and no one checked it. Conflixt resolution and Diversity training isn't important in this instance- a real pity that this sort of thing gets in the way.
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05/01/2021 20:33:52 12 2
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As a recently retired nurse you will sadly recognise all the signs of this NHS bureaucracy. An HR Manager has got the checklist out totally ignoring the fact that we are trying to drain the bloody swamp. My daughter's a Vet and I understand the going rate for them id £11 an hour to do any vaccinations.
500
05/01/2021 21:42:50 12 1
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Indeed, but in UK 2021 they have to be able to spot a terrorist (really) and learn not to call a man 'sir' in case he's self-identifying as a weasel that day. Family member in a senior role in NHS and I despair at the stuff she wastes her time on.
06/01/2021 04:39:44 2 0
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Because government is full of thickos.
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05/01/2021 19:49:49 8 14
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"significant degree of immunity" how does that work as none of the vaccines have been trialed to see if they stop people catching it, transmitting it or indeed if they reduce hospitalisations?

Don't believe me? Here's the associate editor of the BMJ and professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
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05/01/2021 20:07:07 3 1
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a lot more data has been collected since last October and will continue to be collected. The picture will become clearer on transmission etc in time
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05/01/2021 20:07:14 91 32
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What I don’t understand is that we’ve taken fundamental changes to society and destroyed peoples lives, yet the vaccine roll out seems at best half arsed. The army should be setting up centres throughout the country. 24hr vaccination over the next 2 months. Manufacture of the bottle/injection kit should be being compulsory made by all available industry. It can be done.
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05/01/2021 20:27:42 56 18
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Yep. It is hard to believe. "Shortage of fill and finish materials" is a bad joke. Surely with an 8 month lead time for items they knew they would definitely need they'd be more prepared.
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05/01/2021 20:27:44 15 5
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So we have the Army testing in every city, Distributing PPE, Vaccinating. How many soldiers do you believe we have? Not the whole of the Army is in the UK we have duties all over the world.
People need to get real.
Vets, Pharmacists, GPS etc and drop the PC nonsense qualifications. COVID has no unconscious bias, no lack of diversity.
Just get on with it and stop the liberal elite ruining it
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05/01/2021 20:43:55 17 5
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The UK rollout is actually astoundingly well done, given the scale of the thing and how other countries are doing. Our press just really, really like pushing a negative spin. (Notice how giving as many people their first shot as possible suddenly became a bad thing?) Also, there probably isn't any British industry capable of manufacturing this stuff in useful quantities anymore.
680
05/01/2021 22:05:46 5 0
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There are 301K registered medical practitioners in the UK and 311K nurses. The Army is currently 87K strong. The key is making the health service work effectively. The MOD can and is, however, helping on procurement.
05/01/2021 23:01:10 3 5
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"Half arsed". At least the Uk is doing better than the rest of the EU, where all 27 EU states put together have not vaccinated as many people as the UK has. And this will kick in soon when immunity takes hold. The oldest people are by far at greatest risk. Belgium 50% more deaths per capita.
05/01/2021 23:32:55 2 0
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Agree. A bit of dedicated state energy using all the resources of the state will break the back of the vac programme. We spend oodles of energy finding reasons why something can’t be done whilst the Israelites JFDI. And do 12%+ of their population.
05/01/2021 23:43:16 4 3
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They are building new facilities to manufacture the oils in the UK. Give them a break eh. First vaccine in the world to work at room temp. Pioneers... and you maybe forget that we are first in line. Thank your lucky stars. Stop looking for an eagle to attack and be happy :)
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05/01/2021 19:56:18 21 9
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Just another 67mil to go.
Hope it can be sped up a bit or we will be suffering the removal of persoanl freedoms for another year
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05/01/2021 20:26:11 12 3
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Why 67 million?
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05/01/2021 20:53:15 6 0
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You appear to have included a) children who won’t be vaccinated, and b) the 28% or so of the remainder who say, at the moment, that they will choose not to be vaccinated.
That leaves only about 35 million still to be vaccinated.
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05/01/2021 20:53:32 2 1
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could be worse france ,germany italy and probably worse than us 513 vacinated in france so far
06/01/2021 00:02:09 0 0
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You permit to have your freedom taken. That's the problem. Not Boris, not covid, you :)
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05/01/2021 19:56:29 14 10
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One million people with covid is one in 66, not one in 50.

In any case:

STAY INDOORS
imprison covid deniers
STOP the hate.

WASH hands
188
05/01/2021 20:20:48 1 3
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you have a severe problem
250
05/01/2021 20:49:09 1 2
bbc
Lock people up for denying COVID and stop the hate? Irony anyone?
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05/01/2021 19:54:50 62 9
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I would love to see a detailed analysis of the quarter million who have tested positive this last few days. How did they get the virus?
90
05/01/2021 19:58:09 15 4
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From people who didn’t follow the rules blowing covid protein shells in their face, that’s how.
06/01/2021 05:04:24 0 1
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Pure unfounded speculation.
And possibly from a vaccine.
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05/01/2021 20:01:09 14 9
bbc
New daily cases 5 January

New cases increased in many EU countries, but UK accounting for a third of new cases in Europe

United Kingdom 60,916

Austria, Belgium, Croatia Czechia Denmark Estonia Finland France Greece Germany Ireland Italy Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Romania Spain Switzerland Slovakia Slovenia Sweden Turkey

Total EU27 - 124,843
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05/01/2021 20:07:30 4 4
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And your point is?
106
05/01/2021 20:12:13 5 7
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Our government has failed us at every crucial point of this pandemic, and we've suffered as a result. 2020 is going to seem like a baby bath comapred to this year.
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05/01/2021 20:03:38 16 17
bbc
I have been sympathetic to the Government up until now. Of course mistakes have been made as it has been such an unknown quantity.

However, allowing Christmas gatherings and schools to go back for a day were truly appalling decisions which are, and will, have catastrophic consequences over the coming months.

Enough is enough.
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05/01/2021 20:08:21 14 1
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I agree.
However, having some as staggeringly incompetent as Williamson at the helm was bound to lead to catastrophe in the schools.
His arrogance and stupidity is damaging many lives.
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Tim
05/01/2021 20:08:43 7 8
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So 1.3 million vaccinations have been successfully given. How many doses have been delivered to vaccination centres and hence what's the wastage rate? (and yes I realise that the Oxford vaccine is better in this respect) The answer to this question will reveal just how many more doses will be required and I suspect will reveal a shortfall that will make certain authorities very uncomfortable.
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05/01/2021 20:30:20 0 1
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You’re cheerful
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05/01/2021 22:56:33 0 0
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Stop complaining be thankful we have the choice to have vaccines.
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MH
05/01/2021 20:00:23 1 0
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Does the UK have delivery priority for the AstraZeneca vaccine?
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05/01/2021 20:08:56 2 2
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Haven't you been watching the news, the UK Govt have ordered 100million doses
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05/01/2021 19:58:59 8 1
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I would love to see the breakdown of numbers vaccinated here in Wales, I bet it's not good.
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05/01/2021 20:09:37 7 0
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Its published on gov
Uk. Take a look.
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05/01/2021 20:05:49 7 13
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If Johnson had locked down earlier how many of todays 830 lives could have been saved; omitted from the 5pm analysis
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05/01/2021 20:09:39 6 0
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Would probably have had to lockdown nearly a month ago too make any difference to todays death figures
73
05/01/2021 20:03:38 16 17
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I have been sympathetic to the Government up until now. Of course mistakes have been made as it has been such an unknown quantity.

However, allowing Christmas gatherings and schools to go back for a day were truly appalling decisions which are, and will, have catastrophic consequences over the coming months.

Enough is enough.
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05/01/2021 20:09:50 4 1
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To be honest, I think they were abysmal from day one. Why on earth they didn't at least do temperature checks on people arriving from outside the UK at any point before March is beyond me. That alone would have probably saved thousands of lives and billions of pounds.
Then there was the Barnard Castle episode....
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05/01/2021 19:48:35 9 3
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No, vaccinated more than Europe.
Had we remained in the EU we would be waiting in line to begin.
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05/01/2021 20:09:51 4 1
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No every eu member had the choice to wait for EMA and act as one in unity or use emergency rules to go on their own

Uk technically was still under eu rules in december and CHOSE to go alone using said emergency rules

Shows again how little you know how the eu works
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05/01/2021 20:04:17 15 3
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Test positivity in UK today is not significantly worse than most of the big European nations.
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05/01/2021 20:09:54 6 5
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UK at 60,916 is 3 times higher than France 20,489, the second highest in recorded in Europe
139
05/01/2021 20:22:39 6 1
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UK population density is far higher than France
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05/01/2021 21:23:26 2 0
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We test 10x as many every day
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05/01/2021 21:44:54 2 0
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try looking at how many they test per day in likes of France... otherwise your just spouting to suit your bias
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05/01/2021 20:01:11 5 0
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He is, however, speaking in a discussion article as opposed to a full research article. It is the same as you and me soundbiting in a pub while the actual people involved in the research are producing much more indepth evidence.
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05/01/2021 20:10:32 3 3
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Silly me I should have known there would be someone here more qualified than the professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy.