UK new car registrations in 2020 sink to 30-year low
06/01/2021 | news | business | 414
New 2020 car registrations sink to a 30-year low and see biggest one-year drop since the Second World War
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06/01/2021 11:16:21 4 7
bbc
Anyone blamed the BBC yet?
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06/01/2021 11:30:08 2 0
bbc
so obvious why bother, they've terrified the life out of everyone about Covid so once told you've more chance of dying on the roads, loads stop buying cars. ;-)
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06/01/2021 11:33:35 0 2
bbc
bbc now in hands of the tories,chairman a boris fan so lots more positive government stories from the establishment
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06/01/2021 11:16:48 29 4
bbc
About 1.63 million new cars were registered in 2020, compared with 2.3 million in 2019 - a decline of 29%.

How on earth did they register 1.63 million?
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Bob
06/01/2021 11:20:35 21 10
bbc
Someone a few doors down has their own business and got their nice juicy grant from the Bank of Rishi and bought a car with it and carried on working. So that's one down, 1,629,999 others to find out about.
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06/01/2021 12:58:03 1 2
bbc
Could be a bit of accountancy / business smoke and mirrors going on here, Mr Ranter ?
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Tv
06/01/2021 13:08:39 6 0
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because half are probably registered by the manufacturesers to then sell on, always been the way
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06/01/2021 11:16:22 41 11
bbc
Stand by for next breaking headline, ‘Bear spotted in woods’
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06/01/2021 11:32:15 16 33
bbc
dont comment if you dont like these hys
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06/01/2021 12:00:20 7 0
bbc
I've been walking in our local woods for years & have never seen a bear
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06/01/2021 14:51:57 0 0
bbc
Change the word spotted to SH*^^%! and we will know for sure when it happens.
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06/01/2021 23:01:38 0 1
bbc
Yes it called Dorris and has a lost baby bear called Gove
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07/01/2021 07:33:11 1 0
bbc
I've notice that comments on HYS about Popes, Bears and Sherlock are becoming fewer. I guess it's be cause the people who would normally make such comments are realising that these comments are unoriginal, repetitive and, lets face it, down right stupid.

Still, you keep on bucking the trend eh!
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06/01/2021 11:18:19 84 7
bbc
Car sales are down? Really? Well knock me down with a feather

I wonder why that is
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06/01/2021 11:46:16 45 1
bbc
Very surprised that sales were not much lower than reported.
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06/01/2021 17:35:38 1 0
bbc
None of the car makers are British any longer so why worry
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06/01/2021 11:20:01 17 4
bbc
Car purchasing and leasing needs to be looked into on a long-term basis as the current model is unsustainable. When I first started to drive 40 years ago I could never have dreamed of having a brand new car but this is within easy reach today at circa £180 pm. This just increases the amount of cars on the road as car are far more reliable so are not scrapped.
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Bob
06/01/2021 11:22:21 7 6
bbc
You are right. I have 10 cars now because I keep signing up to cheap finance deals...

You can only drive one car at a time. If cars are more reliable and are not being scrapped as soon those cars are still in service and being used.

Population has grown since you started driving 40 years ago, you know?
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06/01/2021 11:16:48 29 4
bbc
About 1.63 million new cars were registered in 2020, compared with 2.3 million in 2019 - a decline of 29%.

How on earth did they register 1.63 million?
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Bob
06/01/2021 11:20:35 21 10
bbc
Someone a few doors down has their own business and got their nice juicy grant from the Bank of Rishi and bought a car with it and carried on working. So that's one down, 1,629,999 others to find out about.
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06/01/2021 23:04:02 0 0
bbc
The rest pumped the money into Bitcoin and the stock market!
Big Crash coming around end of March... Thats when the free loaders need to pay for the free money - I wait and claim my interest Free loan and short the market.
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06/01/2021 11:20:01 17 4
bbc
Car purchasing and leasing needs to be looked into on a long-term basis as the current model is unsustainable. When I first started to drive 40 years ago I could never have dreamed of having a brand new car but this is within easy reach today at circa £180 pm. This just increases the amount of cars on the road as car are far more reliable so are not scrapped.
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Bob
06/01/2021 11:22:21 7 6
bbc
You are right. I have 10 cars now because I keep signing up to cheap finance deals...

You can only drive one car at a time. If cars are more reliable and are not being scrapped as soon those cars are still in service and being used.

Population has grown since you started driving 40 years ago, you know?
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06/01/2021 11:22:25 55 13
bbc
Most cars purchased in this country are imported from Europe, so the value add (to the economy) and manufacturing jobs flows to countries like Germany; so a drop in car sales might not affect the UK economy *that* much.
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06/01/2021 11:27:14 47 92
bbc
Very soon there will be next to no cars made in the UK.
The rich car company owners, brewiteers, have moved their production out of the UK...
Another Brexit triumph for Boris
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06/01/2021 11:49:31 16 11
bbc
We need to change this.

Germany has been allowed to monopolise the industry for too long.
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06/01/2021 13:39:20 1 0
bbc
..apart from all the jobs that depend on their manufacture of course
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06/01/2021 15:30:03 2 0
bbc
My last car was a Toyota Auris Hybrid made in the UK and 5 year guarantee and with a Toyota you don't need buy new car for long while when got Japan/Uk Toyota reliable and quality with 5 year guarantee.
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06/01/2021 11:23:09 11 10
bbc
No way!

That's a shock!

This must surely be discussed.

Thank god the BBC have opened a HYS.
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06/01/2021 11:31:24 6 5
bbc
you would be lost without the comments page
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06/01/2021 11:24:07 12 4
bbc
Most of a car's life is spent parked up, perhaps we could use the ones we have already more efficiently ?
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06/01/2021 11:27:18 11 3
bbc
The future of cars is probably autonomous electrics and membership of car club type companies, then you just call one up when you need it, and you don't have to worry about that extra half pint! In the future it is possible that few people will actually buy their own car.
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06/01/2021 11:41:29 1 0
bbc
How about this;

https://thegardeningcook.com/car-planters/

You can't get much more environmentally friendly.
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06/01/2021 11:24:19 2 3
bbc
Because the vast majority are cheaply made and dangerous, all expense put into bells and whistles but not into safety, I had a car door opened on my truck, I had slight damage but the other car was written off, I see drivers on the motorways, if they only knew what surrounds them is effectively paper.
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06/01/2021 12:06:05 0 0
bbc
Too true
Crash zones better
But drivers switch off as senses dulled.
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06/01/2021 11:19:45 5 4
bbc
Battery electric is definitely the future. Ignore all the oil industry 'lobbyists' that spout rubbish online. Battery is clean, efficient and improving all the time, as is green power generation. Anyone reading this who hasn't tried a recent electric car or van, would be well advised to try one. Dealers often lend them out for a few days, so you can get a proper feel for them.
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06/01/2021 11:29:11 1 12
bbc
Renault Clio is the car to buy, at least in Europe where good deals are offered...
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06/01/2021 11:33:16 5 2
bbc
Tell that to kids digging up lithium in slave like conditions. Aldo, you conveniently ignore the environmental damage of creating and disposing of batteries on the tens of millions.
Electric is no use for lorries and small Vans as the weight in batteries reduces their load to almost nothing and range and charging time unsuitable. Hydrogen is the long term solution - electric us a stop - gap only.
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06/01/2021 11:39:20 3 3
bbc
"Battery electric is definitely the future"

I beg to differ
Huge unsolvable issues with charging infrastructure in high density urban areas in particular
Imo, EVs are a betamax moment & Hydrogen is the future
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06/01/2021 11:22:25 55 13
bbc
Most cars purchased in this country are imported from Europe, so the value add (to the economy) and manufacturing jobs flows to countries like Germany; so a drop in car sales might not affect the UK economy *that* much.
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06/01/2021 11:27:14 47 92
bbc
Very soon there will be next to no cars made in the UK.
The rich car company owners, brewiteers, have moved their production out of the UK...
Another Brexit triumph for Boris
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06/01/2021 11:38:57 20 14
bbc
You're being downvoted but you're not wrong. Sure there have already been announcements of car production being moved back to the EU, like that 4 by 4 that I can't remember the name of
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06/01/2021 11:43:54 13 19
bbc
Utter tripe.
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06/01/2021 12:55:05 13 8
bbc
What car companies are you thinking of exactly? The EU did a free trade deal with Japan so now Japan will be manufacturing cars in their own country instead of in the UK, nothing to do with Brexit.

It was the EU that allowed Ford to move production to Turkey.

They have systematically stripped the UK of its manufacturing assets to redistribute wealth to other EU countries and profit from it.
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06/01/2021 12:57:10 10 11
bbc
Ultimately it is the pompous British mentality and arrogance is your problem. They do not see it how it really is the British. Very condescending, ignorant and arrogant peoples who kind of deserve what is coming to them economically. I have little time for Britain, a lot of us see how you really are in business and you are corrupt and too close to America for us to re-invest in the UK.
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06/01/2021 13:11:05 14 1
bbc
The UK car industry was destroyed by the unions in the seventies - heard of Red Robbo? Constant strikes and non-existent quality, so everyone bought Japanese instead (apart from Beetles, you didn't see many German cars in those days) - stone age technology at the time, but very reliable.
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06/01/2021 14:06:04 7 2
bbc
Can you confirm which car companies have moved their production out of the UK due to "Brewit".

I am aware Honda are shifting production to Japan (not EU) as a consequence of the Japan/EU trade deal removing tariffs on Japanese cars.

I look forward to being enlightened.
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06/01/2021 16:54:13 1 1
bbc
We used to make TVs, lovely they were in wooden cabinets. The staff used to switch them on for us.
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06/01/2021 17:59:18 3 0
bbc
So all the manufacturing jobs that the UK has lost over the last 40 years were moved out because of Brexit?
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06/01/2021 11:27:25 9 4
bbc
Who is going to buy a ICE car when they are all to be banned shortly, who is going to buy any car when we have been under house arrest for close on a year with no prospect of that piece of madness being scrapped, and once all those on furlough discover in April they may have no jobs to return to , who is going to be able to buy one, then of course what has the WEF, IMF & Davos crowd got lined up?
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06/01/2021 11:37:33 8 5
bbc
These covidcrestrictions will roll into more restrictions to"save the environment". Once a goverment gets used to controlling us, as they now have, they will never give that power up.
Welcome to the future sheeple.
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06/01/2021 12:07:27 5 0
bbc
They are no going to be banned. Just banned from new sales.

They are not going to let you buy one the day before the 'ban' and then expect you to not drive thereafter!
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bbc
Latest crisis from BBC News,Sun to rise in the east tomorrow morning.

Little wonder that BBC are officially the least trusted news organisation in the UK.
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06/01/2021 11:30:33 1 6
bbc
thats nonsense its called good reporting
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06/01/2021 11:37:17 1 0
bbc
The least trusted says Speccy. Who chooses to use it.

Maybe nobody has told him about accessing websites you don't trust.
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06/01/2021 11:19:45 5 4
bbc
Battery electric is definitely the future. Ignore all the oil industry 'lobbyists' that spout rubbish online. Battery is clean, efficient and improving all the time, as is green power generation. Anyone reading this who hasn't tried a recent electric car or van, would be well advised to try one. Dealers often lend them out for a few days, so you can get a proper feel for them.
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06/01/2021 11:29:11 1 12
bbc
Renault Clio is the car to buy, at least in Europe where good deals are offered...
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06/01/2021 11:47:27 2 0
bbc
If you want a Renault then the Zoe is the one.
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06/01/2021 11:52:07 1 0
bbc
I had a Cleo as a courtesy car for a week, it worked, but was a totally bland driving experience. The week before I'd had a Peugeot 107, which was really lively in comparison, actually quite fun to drive, whizzed through traffic and was great to hustle down the lanes. Neither were electric though!
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06/01/2021 11:16:21 4 7
bbc
Anyone blamed the BBC yet?
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06/01/2021 11:30:08 2 0
bbc
so obvious why bother, they've terrified the life out of everyone about Covid so once told you've more chance of dying on the roads, loads stop buying cars. ;-)
Latest crisis from BBC News,Sun to rise in the east tomorrow morning.

Little wonder that BBC are officially the least trusted news organisation in the UK.
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06/01/2021 11:30:33 1 6
bbc
thats nonsense its called good reporting
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06/01/2021 11:30:34 4 3
bbc
So where do the metals used to make the batteries come from? NOT the UK
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06/01/2021 12:30:24 0 0
bbc
Maybe China everything else seems to and nots let forget or economy busting coronovirus
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06/01/2021 11:23:09 11 10
bbc
No way!

That's a shock!

This must surely be discussed.

Thank god the BBC have opened a HYS.
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06/01/2021 11:31:24 6 5
bbc
you would be lost without the comments page
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06/01/2021 11:43:20 1 1
bbc
I would indeed.

Loads of people who take the BBC click bait but then don't read the article or know the meaning of the word 'context' jumping up and down getting angry.
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06/01/2021 11:16:22 41 11
bbc
Stand by for next breaking headline, ‘Bear spotted in woods’
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06/01/2021 11:32:15 16 33
bbc
dont comment if you dont like these hys
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06/01/2021 11:24:07 12 4
bbc
Most of a car's life is spent parked up, perhaps we could use the ones we have already more efficiently ?
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06/01/2021 11:27:18 11 3
bbc
The future of cars is probably autonomous electrics and membership of car club type companies, then you just call one up when you need it, and you don't have to worry about that extra half pint! In the future it is possible that few people will actually buy their own car.
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06/01/2021 12:13:36 3 1
bbc
Sorry, but there is a sub-set of society who throw rubbish out of windows and leave mess for others to tidy up.

I would rather my own clean space as opposed to potentially share with the more selfish and disgusting elements of society.
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06/01/2021 16:44:13 1 1
bbc
Great until all your neighbors want a car for the bank holiday weekend
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06/01/2021 11:19:45 5 4
bbc
Battery electric is definitely the future. Ignore all the oil industry 'lobbyists' that spout rubbish online. Battery is clean, efficient and improving all the time, as is green power generation. Anyone reading this who hasn't tried a recent electric car or van, would be well advised to try one. Dealers often lend them out for a few days, so you can get a proper feel for them.
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06/01/2021 11:33:16 5 2
bbc
Tell that to kids digging up lithium in slave like conditions. Aldo, you conveniently ignore the environmental damage of creating and disposing of batteries on the tens of millions.
Electric is no use for lorries and small Vans as the weight in batteries reduces their load to almost nothing and range and charging time unsuitable. Hydrogen is the long term solution - electric us a stop - gap only.
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06/01/2021 11:36:43 2 0
bbc
Twaddle. I have used a BEV van for work, it was perfect for the job. Batteries can be used for electricity storage for decades after they have been used in cars. And companies are working on recycling solutions and getting there. Ice cars are dinosaurs, soon to be found only in museums. Hydrogen may work for trains and HGVs, but never for cars.
Find out what car batteries are used for at end of life before spouting ill-informed garbage.
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06/01/2021 11:16:21 4 7
bbc
Anyone blamed the BBC yet?
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06/01/2021 11:33:35 0 2
bbc
bbc now in hands of the tories,chairman a boris fan so lots more positive government stories from the establishment
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06/01/2021 11:36:36 25 7
bbc
If everyone has an electric car where are they supposed to charge it
At home mostly
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06/01/2021 11:38:57 7 8
bbc
Charging stations are now being rolled out. Battery technology is improving rapidly, so charging times will reduce. And if you live in a city you don't need a car, it is part of the reason for living in a city!
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06/01/2021 12:11:38 6 2
bbc
Taxed my car today on GOV website and afterwards followed the link about electric cars.

Almost spat my coffee out when I read the hilarious line about the benefits which stated 'average charging times are 8-12 hours, so the car is already to go when you are'. I wouldn't be banding that around as a selling point!

In fairness, underneath it mentioned that rapid chargers hit 80% in around an hour.
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06/01/2021 13:16:39 1 2
bbc
And....scraping perfectly good Petrol and Diesels ends up being more damaging to the environment due to the amount of CO2, and other impacts extracting precious materials & energy used to build Electric cars!

We should and could easily convert to Hydrogen, the only waste that produces is H2O
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06/01/2021 11:36:38 5 2
bbc
Greggs and the car industry should team up - Free car with your sausage roll.
Latest crisis from BBC News,Sun to rise in the east tomorrow morning.

Little wonder that BBC are officially the least trusted news organisation in the UK.
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06/01/2021 11:37:17 1 0
bbc
The least trusted says Speccy. Who chooses to use it.

Maybe nobody has told him about accessing websites you don't trust.
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06/01/2021 11:37:18 15 5
bbc
""If we see this continued level of uptake in electric vehicles"
Then lots of predictions based on an 'if'

The likelihood is numbers will increase at a steady rate up to about 30-35% of sales, then tail off
Charging infrastructure is always going to be an issue
Gov admit this but say it's up to councils to solve when they don't even have any suggestions of their own
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06/01/2021 11:27:25 9 4
bbc
Who is going to buy a ICE car when they are all to be banned shortly, who is going to buy any car when we have been under house arrest for close on a year with no prospect of that piece of madness being scrapped, and once all those on furlough discover in April they may have no jobs to return to , who is going to be able to buy one, then of course what has the WEF, IMF & Davos crowd got lined up?
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06/01/2021 11:37:33 8 5
bbc
These covidcrestrictions will roll into more restrictions to"save the environment". Once a goverment gets used to controlling us, as they now have, they will never give that power up.
Welcome to the future sheeple.
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06/01/2021 11:37:38 4 3
bbc
It's odd that so many of these disaster announcements are the worst since those lucky boomers never had it so good.
Maybe if the boomers got through it the millennials will be ok.
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06/01/2021 11:35:41 39 8
bbc
Fantastic news.. we don't need any new cars.. we should be cutting down. We are flooded with unwanted cars and we need to spend money on other priorities....
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06/01/2021 12:49:20 20 5
bbc
Just let people spend their own money, instead of telling them what to do all the time.
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06/01/2021 11:33:16 5 2
bbc
Tell that to kids digging up lithium in slave like conditions. Aldo, you conveniently ignore the environmental damage of creating and disposing of batteries on the tens of millions.
Electric is no use for lorries and small Vans as the weight in batteries reduces their load to almost nothing and range and charging time unsuitable. Hydrogen is the long term solution - electric us a stop - gap only.
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06/01/2021 11:36:43 2 0
bbc
Twaddle. I have used a BEV van for work, it was perfect for the job. Batteries can be used for electricity storage for decades after they have been used in cars. And companies are working on recycling solutions and getting there. Ice cars are dinosaurs, soon to be found only in museums. Hydrogen may work for trains and HGVs, but never for cars.
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06/01/2021 12:38:56 1 1
bbc
I fear you are misinformed.
BMW - not known for misjudging the market, are manufacturing a hydrogen fuel cell X5 from next year.
Why would a major manufacturer spend millions on developing this vehicle if it doesn’t work in the everyday world? A much “ greener” solution than lithium mining.
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06/01/2021 11:27:14 47 92
bbc
Very soon there will be next to no cars made in the UK.
The rich car company owners, brewiteers, have moved their production out of the UK...
Another Brexit triumph for Boris
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06/01/2021 11:38:57 20 14
bbc
You're being downvoted but you're not wrong. Sure there have already been announcements of car production being moved back to the EU, like that 4 by 4 that I can't remember the name of
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06/01/2021 14:03:42 4 2
bbc
Would that be the one that has not even been built yet, in any country? Jim Radcliffe was looking at a site in Wales, but has bought a closed Mercedes factory in France instead. Production to commence this year or next.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good Brexit rant.....
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06/01/2021 11:19:45 5 4
bbc
Battery electric is definitely the future. Ignore all the oil industry 'lobbyists' that spout rubbish online. Battery is clean, efficient and improving all the time, as is green power generation. Anyone reading this who hasn't tried a recent electric car or van, would be well advised to try one. Dealers often lend them out for a few days, so you can get a proper feel for them.
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06/01/2021 11:39:20 3 3
bbc
"Battery electric is definitely the future"

I beg to differ
Huge unsolvable issues with charging infrastructure in high density urban areas in particular
Imo, EVs are a betamax moment & Hydrogen is the future
With more unsolved issues than electric, and no hint of how it can be safely stored, pathetic energy density and a serious explosive gas hazard. Hydrogen is for comedians only.
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06/01/2021 11:41:51 3 0
bbc
Hydrogen = expensive to produce. Requires lots of fossil fuels, which is why the oil industry back it! So obvious. Hydrogen cars are horrendously expensive, and it is dangerou8s to store. Hydrogen cars will soon join ICE cars in museums.
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06/01/2021 11:36:36 25 7
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If everyone has an electric car where are they supposed to charge it
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06/01/2021 11:40:09 13 13
bbc
At home mostly
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06/01/2021 12:44:27 10 3
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Will the extension lead stretch to 500 feet to reach my 20th floor flat?
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06/01/2021 14:03:09 1 1
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If you have a driveway
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06/01/2021 11:37:30 4 13
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We don't need cars.

The world managed without them for millions of years until 1885.

get rid of cars TODAY
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06/01/2021 11:45:44 5 2
bbc
Ah yes, that's an intelligent comment. Of course, it also applies to phones, computers, electricity, running warm water, health care, democracy and the rule of law, to name a few modernistic things.

Come to think of it, we did OK without seven billion people on this planet, let's go back to less than one billion.

Come to think of, dinosaurs are really cute. Let's give them back the planet.
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06/01/2021 12:21:53 0 2
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you might not, i do thanks
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06/01/2021 12:29:56 1 2
bbc
You obviously live in a town or city believing cars are unnecessary. Try living in a rural community without a car.
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06/01/2021 11:36:36 25 7
bbc
If everyone has an electric car where are they supposed to charge it
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06/01/2021 11:38:57 7 8
bbc
Charging stations are now being rolled out. Battery technology is improving rapidly, so charging times will reduce. And if you live in a city you don't need a car, it is part of the reason for living in a city!
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06/01/2021 11:24:07 12 4
bbc
Most of a car's life is spent parked up, perhaps we could use the ones we have already more efficiently ?
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06/01/2021 11:41:29 1 0
bbc
How about this;

https://thegardeningcook.com/car-planters/

You can't get much more environmentally friendly.
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06/01/2021 11:33:16 5 2
bbc
Tell that to kids digging up lithium in slave like conditions. Aldo, you conveniently ignore the environmental damage of creating and disposing of batteries on the tens of millions.
Electric is no use for lorries and small Vans as the weight in batteries reduces their load to almost nothing and range and charging time unsuitable. Hydrogen is the long term solution - electric us a stop - gap only.
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06/01/2021 11:41:42 1 1
bbc
Find out what car batteries are used for at end of life before spouting ill-informed garbage.
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06/01/2021 11:42:48 36 17
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electric cars will never work, too expensive and not that green
Small petrol car more efficient and cheaper and has the range
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06/01/2021 11:46:11 21 26
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My Tesla has a better range than my old Astra!
Also, petrol is a finite resource so has no long-term future.
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06/01/2021 11:44:51 7 3
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The car industry itself way that in about two years time ICE and electric cars will reach price parity. Batteries are improving all the time, soon range will not be a problem.
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06/01/2021 11:48:40 8 4
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Complete rubbish.

Petrol and diesel cars are very 20th century - the world has moved on.
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06/01/2021 18:56:43 0 1
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All the focus is on battery, itself an ancient concept due to the recharge times. If Tesla had gone down the hydrogen fuel cell route then nobody would be giving a second thought, they didn't because battery was a cheaper route to market for them.
Viable hydrogen fuel cells have been around for a few years now but nobody is interesting with all the investment in battery.
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06/01/2021 19:15:57 1 0
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when the petrol delivery drivers went on strike it was reported that the average car was only ever 1/4 full. Bearing that in mind battery capacity of 100 miles is plenty.....but not for anyone who does serious mileage - although many of them shouldn't.
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07/01/2021 17:14:57 0 0
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Incredible lack of understanding about EVs. In an EV nothing is burned, batteries are fully recyclable, all the elements can be recovered and will be. Audi/Northvolt already have a pilot plant to make new batteries from recycled materials. But don’t hold your breath, batteries last a LONG time and will have a 2nd life after the car.
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06/01/2021 11:39:20 3 3
bbc
"Battery electric is definitely the future"

I beg to differ
Huge unsolvable issues with charging infrastructure in high density urban areas in particular
Imo, EVs are a betamax moment & Hydrogen is the future
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06/01/2021 11:43:18 2 2
bbc
With more unsolved issues than electric, and no hint of how it can be safely stored, pathetic energy density and a serious explosive gas hazard. Hydrogen is for comedians only.
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06/01/2021 11:31:24 6 5
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you would be lost without the comments page
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06/01/2021 11:43:20 1 1
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I would indeed.

Loads of people who take the BBC click bait but then don't read the article or know the meaning of the word 'context' jumping up and down getting angry.
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06/01/2021 11:27:14 47 92
bbc
Very soon there will be next to no cars made in the UK.
The rich car company owners, brewiteers, have moved their production out of the UK...
Another Brexit triumph for Boris
43
06/01/2021 11:43:54 13 19
bbc
Utter tripe.
44
06/01/2021 11:45:13 61 24
bbc
Make sure you buy cars made in the UK.

Jaguar
Land Rover
MINI
Vauxhall
Nissan
Honda
Bentley
Mclaren
Rolls Royce
Lotus
Toyota
Aston Martin

There are loads to choose from at every price point.

By buying British cars we could add an extra £100 billion on to the UK economy and create 100's of thousands of jobs.

The UK also needs to create a world leading electric car brand.

iRover perhaps?
49
06/01/2021 11:47:09 61 25
bbc
Firstly; none of the above are actually British companies, they may be British Brands but are owned by foreign companies. Secondly, Honda are pulling out of the UK in July leaving over 3000 people in Swindon without jobs.
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06/01/2021 11:50:46 31 20
bbc
None are British owned. None are made purely from UK parts. the UK is an assembler of parts made in the EU and elsewhere which cross borders multiple times. This has just got harder due to Brexit.
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06/01/2021 12:17:55 1 12
bbc
ford first and foremost
99
06/01/2021 12:19:55 20 8
bbc
It makes very little difference what car you buy - apart from one or two niche brands, any of the above could have been assembled in multiple plants across several countries, using parts manufactured across even more countries. Brexit just means that in future less of the process will involve British plants.
167
06/01/2021 13:01:46 9 0
bbc
a lot of Vauxhall's are made in Europe, not the UK
174
06/01/2021 13:06:31 6 2
bbc
You sure can dream, but you have to wonder why all those "made in the UK" brands are foreign or foreign owned.
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AMc
06/01/2021 13:13:01 1 0
bbc
£200 BILLION if we all bought a Bentley!
233
06/01/2021 14:08:19 5 2
bbc
If BrExit is such a great idea, why is Jim Ratcliffe building his new Grenadier 4x4 in France (not Wales as promised); especially as he was a passionate supporter of BrExit? Jaguar also set up a massive manufacturing plant in Eastern Europe prior to BrExit as well as cars being made in China under Joint Enterprise. With your logic you might as well say MG is British car.
306
06/01/2021 16:44:11 0 1
bbc
just make sure its in the next 4 yeas before the thickies have struck.
335
06/01/2021 17:28:52 0 1
bbc
Excellent post ??????
337
06/01/2021 17:34:56 0 0
bbc
Which of these industries is Blitish, your local bungaling Conservative policy with the aid of the BoE, also its corporate off springs, and the high street banks, have been for the past forty years or more, have been to get rid of anything to do with fabrication, ergo manufacturing anything.
The Charge of the light brigade at the battle of Balaclava looks like a better option than HMG policy!!
346
06/01/2021 18:00:14 2 0
bbc
Definitely don't buy an Ineos Grenadier.
364
06/01/2021 19:19:41 0 2
bbc
German made cars are much more reliable.
368
06/01/2021 19:36:16 0 1
bbc
EU won't allow UK car manufacturers to import non EU made batteries for EV cars. Boris agreed that in Brexit
391
07/01/2021 10:06:55 0 1
bbc
What a daft comment. Fluctuations in consumer demand outside UK far outweigh any gravity UK consumers can add to sustaining industry within the UK

Plus, what if I don't want one of these brands anyway? We live in a free market economy and if Brexit has reduced competitiveness of these plants to the extent that I need to choose one to support the UK, then that just shows how daft Brexit is too
.
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07/01/2021 17:08:46 0 0
bbc
Good list. Problem with it that they are all foreign owned apart from McLaren who are tiny. Investment decisions are made elsewhere I’m afraid. Another problem is much of the value of these cars comes from overseas, we have lost huge swathes of our supply chain and cannot survive without EU based suppliers.
36
06/01/2021 11:37:30 4 13
bbc
We don't need cars.

The world managed without them for millions of years until 1885.

get rid of cars TODAY
45
06/01/2021 11:45:44 5 2
bbc
Ah yes, that's an intelligent comment. Of course, it also applies to phones, computers, electricity, running warm water, health care, democracy and the rule of law, to name a few modernistic things.

Come to think of it, we did OK without seven billion people on this planet, let's go back to less than one billion.

Come to think of, dinosaurs are really cute. Let's give them back the planet.
70
06/01/2021 11:58:06 2 1
bbc
We already have 17.4m dinosaurs in the UK, that's more than enough thank you very much!!
34
06/01/2021 11:39:20 3 3
bbc
"Battery electric is definitely the future"

I beg to differ
Huge unsolvable issues with charging infrastructure in high density urban areas in particular
Imo, EVs are a betamax moment & Hydrogen is the future
46
06/01/2021 11:41:51 3 0
bbc
Hydrogen = expensive to produce. Requires lots of fossil fuels, which is why the oil industry back it! So obvious. Hydrogen cars are horrendously expensive, and it is dangerou8s to store. Hydrogen cars will soon join ICE cars in museums.
73
06/01/2021 12:05:05 0 1
bbc
Use solar and wind to make hydrogen

Hydrogen for larger vehicles - lorries buses trains diggers etc

Minimise use of battery power please rate minerals

Balance needed in these discussions
140
06/01/2021 12:40:57 1 1
bbc
And there are no fire risks charging lithium ion batteries?
Vehicle insurers know better.
40
06/01/2021 11:42:48 36 17
bbc
electric cars will never work, too expensive and not that green
Small petrol car more efficient and cheaper and has the range
47
06/01/2021 11:46:11 21 26
bbc
My Tesla has a better range than my old Astra!
Also, petrol is a finite resource so has no long-term future.
71
06/01/2021 12:01:35 13 4
bbc
Petrol finite.
About 50 years plus left and known reserves
Battery minerals more finite
91
06/01/2021 12:18:39 7 1
bbc
you are lucky to be able to afford a tesla
101
06/01/2021 12:20:25 7 2
bbc
oil, (petrol) is in abundance but will not run out as such, it is rather the fact its becoming too much of a climate problem to use
118
06/01/2021 12:29:50 8 3
bbc
Somewhat naive because picture you are travelling up the UK’s longest motorway in your Tesla only to find that you are running out of juice. Petrol/Diesel vehicle you pull into a service station and fill up in 10 minutes but sadly you find all the electric points are u/s. This recently happened to my neighbour who also owns a Tesla. What are you going to do, walk?
124
06/01/2021 12:34:09 7 4
bbc
Really? Nearly all petrol cars can easily manage 400+ miles, many >500. The quoted range for the latest long-range Tesla is 402 miles (a vast improvement on older models), but no car ever reaches its quoted range in actual use. Then reduce EV range for aging battery, cold weather, using the lights & heater, etc. I wouldn't like to rely on any EV reaching half its quoted range in this weather.
155
06/01/2021 12:51:27 2 5
bbc
Bio fuel is an infinite resource and should have been the direction of travel. A mistake that shows the clowns are in charge.

No need to change all the fuel infrastructure.
Similar parts needed for cars as now
No dodgy lithium, cobalt, nickel & cadmium mines
Could have REDUCED the UK generating capacity rather than need to massively increase it
No need for long charging or fiddly battery swaps.
4
06/01/2021 11:18:19 84 7
bbc
Car sales are down? Really? Well knock me down with a feather

I wonder why that is
48
06/01/2021 11:46:16 45 1
bbc
Very surprised that sales were not much lower than reported.
44
06/01/2021 11:45:13 61 24
bbc
Make sure you buy cars made in the UK.

Jaguar
Land Rover
MINI
Vauxhall
Nissan
Honda
Bentley
Mclaren
Rolls Royce
Lotus
Toyota
Aston Martin

There are loads to choose from at every price point.

By buying British cars we could add an extra £100 billion on to the UK economy and create 100's of thousands of jobs.

The UK also needs to create a world leading electric car brand.

iRover perhaps?
49
06/01/2021 11:47:09 61 25
bbc
Firstly; none of the above are actually British companies, they may be British Brands but are owned by foreign companies. Secondly, Honda are pulling out of the UK in July leaving over 3000 people in Swindon without jobs.
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06/01/2021 12:21:00 24 5
bbc
The key point is that they are made in the UK.

On your basis, Mercedes and Volkswagen are not German brands as they are owned by international shareholders...
312
06/01/2021 16:52:06 1 1
bbc
He missed Morgan as well, which is....Italian.
369
06/01/2021 19:58:52 1 0
bbc
But they are made here, so create jobs - thats the point.

Or do you think we should only count British owned jobs - but presumably that would also then need to include all the overseas businesses owned by UK ones - a pointless stat. I think you've missed the point here.
374
06/01/2021 23:00:38 0 1
bbc
Don't worry Borris and Gove will find them jobs - not.
These 2 idiots have never run a business, just posh toffs who have no idea at all.
408
07/01/2021 17:11:08 0 0
bbc
Sadly true. As someone who grew up in Swindon and watched the plant being built it is sad to see. They say it isn’t because of Brexit but we all know that isn’t true. The non-tariff barriers to trade will make foreigner owners think twice about investing in the UK. Electrification further concentrates scale economies and the UK just doesn’t have the scale.
16
06/01/2021 11:29:11 1 12
bbc
Renault Clio is the car to buy, at least in Europe where good deals are offered...
50
06/01/2021 11:47:27 2 0
bbc
If you want a Renault then the Zoe is the one.
40
06/01/2021 11:42:48 36 17
bbc
electric cars will never work, too expensive and not that green
Small petrol car more efficient and cheaper and has the range
51
06/01/2021 11:44:51 7 3
bbc
The car industry itself way that in about two years time ICE and electric cars will reach price parity. Batteries are improving all the time, soon range will not be a problem.
98
06/01/2021 12:19:42 8 6
bbc
range always a problem for electric
116
06/01/2021 12:26:28 11 4
bbc
Range might be improving, but with 40% of car owning households in the U.K. not having on - property parking, how will all those EV cars be recharged ?
And what about the environmental cost from mining lithium? Price parity and range are almost incidental aspects.
40
06/01/2021 11:42:48 36 17
bbc
electric cars will never work, too expensive and not that green
Small petrol car more efficient and cheaper and has the range
52
06/01/2021 11:48:40 8 4
bbc
Complete rubbish.

Petrol and diesel cars are very 20th century - the world has moved on.
100
06/01/2021 12:20:16 2 4
bbc
dont think so, need the range
8
06/01/2021 11:22:25 55 13
bbc
Most cars purchased in this country are imported from Europe, so the value add (to the economy) and manufacturing jobs flows to countries like Germany; so a drop in car sales might not affect the UK economy *that* much.
53
06/01/2021 11:49:31 16 11
bbc
We need to change this.

Germany has been allowed to monopolise the industry for too long.
64
06/01/2021 11:54:34 16 7
bbc
It is due to the stupid Euro. The Euro has hammered the Mediterranean countries, whilst propping up the industries of the northern Euro members by making their exports artificially cheap.
158
06/01/2021 12:53:26 13 5
bbc
That's because they build cars customers like. Can't say the same about what was produced by British Leyland, Rover, Morris and many other failed British brands.
Find out what car batteries are used for at end of life before spouting ill-informed garbage.
Removed
Removed
56
06/01/2021 11:50:31 4 2
bbc
How is this news?

Millions working from home, furlough, lay offs. If course there will be less sold!

Other reason is reluctance to buy a new car with a massive change from carbon based fuels to electric just round the corner.

Other than that. Is it reasonable to expect year on year increase in sales for any item? There will be a saturation point.
44
06/01/2021 11:45:13 61 24
bbc
Make sure you buy cars made in the UK.

Jaguar
Land Rover
MINI
Vauxhall
Nissan
Honda
Bentley
Mclaren
Rolls Royce
Lotus
Toyota
Aston Martin

There are loads to choose from at every price point.

By buying British cars we could add an extra £100 billion on to the UK economy and create 100's of thousands of jobs.

The UK also needs to create a world leading electric car brand.

iRover perhaps?
57
06/01/2021 11:50:46 31 20
bbc
None are British owned. None are made purely from UK parts. the UK is an assembler of parts made in the EU and elsewhere which cross borders multiple times. This has just got harder due to Brexit.
110
06/01/2021 12:23:21 12 1
bbc
Meanwhile “ German “ cars are made in Mexico, and China, and Russia. Why has manufacturing “ got harder” ? Or is this something read in The Mirror?
58
06/01/2021 11:52:37 3 7
bbc
Bojo was going to buy a new car but he dithered and delayed.

He eventually did a U-turn in his old one.
84
06/01/2021 12:13:23 3 1
bbc
Sadly you are no longer funny, but utterly boring and contemptible.
89
06/01/2021 12:17:06 0 1
bbc
quite funny, and some tory sour face no sense of humour boris bum lickers have downvoted it :-)
59
06/01/2021 11:53:11 15 7
bbc
The cull on ICE is premature, the EV is too expensive, not compatible to current transient society, journeys will have pre-planned, power points pre-booked, home charging accessable to the few, car park charging points will clog up with one vehicle all day, work will take longer.
The current working from home would help eliviate commuting but the world cant be built and maintained from a lap top.
69
06/01/2021 11:58:03 15 20
bbc
EVs will reach price parity in about two years time. Then increasing taxes on ICE vehicles will soon render them obsolete. Battery technology is moving at speed. Range is increasing, charging times reducing. Whether you oil industry 'lobbyists' like it or not, batteries and renewable energy are the future
60
06/01/2021 11:53:54 3 1
bbc
At the rate that people are buying electric cars, we in the UK need to start building factories for producing the batteries asap otherwise our recently signed trade deal with the EU will work against us
65
06/01/2021 11:55:16 2 0
bbc
There is one on the way, can;t remember where or who, but saw a brief article on it the other day.
67
06/01/2021 11:59:41 1 0
bbc
Less cars first. That’s the big win
61
06/01/2021 11:54:43 68 3
bbc
I filled-up my Roomster only once in 2020 - mileage since last MOT 668 miles. Seems I don't need an old car let alone a new one. I sometimes miss all that road banter stuff - when I took the test it was "Mirror, Signal, Manoeuvre" but at some point that was replaced by "Manoeuvre, Gesticulate, Badmouth". "You ****** ***** ******* - you shouldn't be driving"! and that's just the Wife!
126
06/01/2021 12:37:05 44 6
bbc
Understandable, if I owned a Roomster I wouldn't drive it much either.
62
06/01/2021 11:54:54 16 0
bbc
I was expecting sale volumes to be a lot worse.
138
06/01/2021 12:40:25 5 11
bbc
Don't worry, the SAGE lunatics and their government lapdogs will eventually destroy any remaining demand.
16
06/01/2021 11:29:11 1 12
bbc
Renault Clio is the car to buy, at least in Europe where good deals are offered...
63
06/01/2021 11:52:07 1 0
bbc
I had a Cleo as a courtesy car for a week, it worked, but was a totally bland driving experience. The week before I'd had a Peugeot 107, which was really lively in comparison, actually quite fun to drive, whizzed through traffic and was great to hustle down the lanes. Neither were electric though!
53
06/01/2021 11:49:31 16 11
bbc
We need to change this.

Germany has been allowed to monopolise the industry for too long.
64
06/01/2021 11:54:34 16 7
bbc
It is due to the stupid Euro. The Euro has hammered the Mediterranean countries, whilst propping up the industries of the northern Euro members by making their exports artificially cheap.
161
06/01/2021 12:56:00 10 8
bbc
Because Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen, Audi were all unknown car makers before the Euro, uh?
60
06/01/2021 11:53:54 3 1
bbc
At the rate that people are buying electric cars, we in the UK need to start building factories for producing the batteries asap otherwise our recently signed trade deal with the EU will work against us
65
06/01/2021 11:55:16 2 0
bbc
There is one on the way, can;t remember where or who, but saw a brief article on it the other day.
66
06/01/2021 11:58:49 9 2
bbc
Wfh means less travel
Would have renewed this year. But will now delay at least one year if not two

And if surplus capacity why are prices not dropping

Anyhow. Less cars. Good news for environment. And that’s true if electric diesel or petrol. All are bad for environment
60
06/01/2021 11:53:54 3 1
bbc
At the rate that people are buying electric cars, we in the UK need to start building factories for producing the batteries asap otherwise our recently signed trade deal with the EU will work against us
67
06/01/2021 11:59:41 1 0
bbc
Less cars first. That’s the big win
3
06/01/2021 11:16:22 41 11
bbc
Stand by for next breaking headline, ‘Bear spotted in woods’
68
06/01/2021 12:00:20 7 0
bbc
I've been walking in our local woods for years & have never seen a bear
150
06/01/2021 12:47:07 3 1
bbc
That's why it will be news ....

:-)
59
06/01/2021 11:53:11 15 7
bbc
The cull on ICE is premature, the EV is too expensive, not compatible to current transient society, journeys will have pre-planned, power points pre-booked, home charging accessable to the few, car park charging points will clog up with one vehicle all day, work will take longer.
The current working from home would help eliviate commuting but the world cant be built and maintained from a lap top.
69
06/01/2021 11:58:03 15 20
bbc
EVs will reach price parity in about two years time. Then increasing taxes on ICE vehicles will soon render them obsolete. Battery technology is moving at speed. Range is increasing, charging times reducing. Whether you oil industry 'lobbyists' like it or not, batteries and renewable energy are the future
81
06/01/2021 12:10:40 6 6
bbc
Battery technology is not moving at speed. Physical barriers are hit and improvements are coming from fiddling at the edges.
95
mc
06/01/2021 12:14:10 5 5
bbc
charge them wgere, a shopping centre will need min 1000 charging station
282
06/01/2021 15:33:54 0 2
bbc
Batteries not made in Uk at present, transportation costs will rise, cars will all be imported c/w battery to reduce costs.
Lithium/Cobalt not sustainably sourced.
Battery life not proven.
Would you buy a second hand EV?

Not an oil/gas lobbyist just a realist.

Yes days of one home owning more than two cars will soon be over, but not yet.
45
06/01/2021 11:45:44 5 2
bbc
Ah yes, that's an intelligent comment. Of course, it also applies to phones, computers, electricity, running warm water, health care, democracy and the rule of law, to name a few modernistic things.

Come to think of it, we did OK without seven billion people on this planet, let's go back to less than one billion.

Come to think of, dinosaurs are really cute. Let's give them back the planet.
70
06/01/2021 11:58:06 2 1
bbc
We already have 17.4m dinosaurs in the UK, that's more than enough thank you very much!!
109
06/01/2021 12:23:00 1 1
bbc
good one, more than makes up for the cars, wind up?
47
06/01/2021 11:46:11 21 26
bbc
My Tesla has a better range than my old Astra!
Also, petrol is a finite resource so has no long-term future.
71
06/01/2021 12:01:35 13 4
bbc
Petrol finite.
About 50 years plus left and known reserves
Battery minerals more finite
76
06/01/2021 12:03:44 9 3
bbc
Batteries will be recyclable, scientists are making rapid progress on it. Petrol cannot be recycled! Well it can, but only by planting trees, restoring peat bogs and stopping global warming!
72
06/01/2021 12:01:59 3 1
bbc
Perhaps some insight into why it was worse in 1992 and how long it took to recover etc might help with context.
If Covid has less impact than the 1992 disaster maybe the past wasn't as rosey as millennials would have us think.
46
06/01/2021 11:41:51 3 0
bbc
Hydrogen = expensive to produce. Requires lots of fossil fuels, which is why the oil industry back it! So obvious. Hydrogen cars are horrendously expensive, and it is dangerou8s to store. Hydrogen cars will soon join ICE cars in museums.
73
06/01/2021 12:05:05 0 1
bbc
Use solar and wind to make hydrogen

Hydrogen for larger vehicles - lorries buses trains diggers etc

Minimise use of battery power please rate minerals

Balance needed in these discussions
96
06/01/2021 12:17:16 1 0
bbc
Hydrogen cars do have batteries! The hydrogen fuel cells charge batteries that drive the car. So they are sort of a hybrid, unnecessarily complicated and expensive. Hydrogen cars are horrendously expensive. It might work for trains and HGVs, but will not make the cut in personal cars and small vans.
11
06/01/2021 11:24:19 2 3
bbc
Because the vast majority are cheaply made and dangerous, all expense put into bells and whistles but not into safety, I had a car door opened on my truck, I had slight damage but the other car was written off, I see drivers on the motorways, if they only knew what surrounds them is effectively paper.
74
06/01/2021 12:06:05 0 0
bbc
Too true
Crash zones better
But drivers switch off as senses dulled.
75
06/01/2021 12:06:39 2 3
bbc
What is the rationale of this article other than lazy reporting?

Surely it stands to reason for any reasonable person to understand, that when the country has been in lockdown or had travel severely restricted that new car sales would decline. It is not rocket science that if you have nowhere to go you do not need a new vehicle or indeed any vehicle whatsoever.
86
06/01/2021 12:14:37 3 2
bbc
so if you live near say man u and you hear their supporters celebrating after a match and work out they must have won, the media havnt to give a report?
what a joyless nitpicker you are, on now the 2nd identical moan ans ive only read 5 posts in all
it got light this morning, did that annoy you as well, :-(
88
06/01/2021 12:16:35 2 2
bbc
I agree, the BBC Website is all about quantity, not quality. Lots of photo content that is days if not weeks old, lots of it lightwight and patronising and it seems now endless photos of our "supreme leader." Too many geeks with too little real reporting to do.
71
06/01/2021 12:01:35 13 4
bbc
Petrol finite.
About 50 years plus left and known reserves
Battery minerals more finite
76
06/01/2021 12:03:44 9 3
bbc
Batteries will be recyclable, scientists are making rapid progress on it. Petrol cannot be recycled! Well it can, but only by planting trees, restoring peat bogs and stopping global warming!
315
06/01/2021 16:56:26 1 0
bbc
It is possible to make synthetic Hydrocarbon`s. Not exactly petrol but kind of recycled Carbon from the air or as part of carbon capture. Not a green as Green Hydrogen but might be needed to keep planes in the air.
14
06/01/2021 11:27:25 9 4
bbc
Who is going to buy a ICE car when they are all to be banned shortly, who is going to buy any car when we have been under house arrest for close on a year with no prospect of that piece of madness being scrapped, and once all those on furlough discover in April they may have no jobs to return to , who is going to be able to buy one, then of course what has the WEF, IMF & Davos crowd got lined up?
77
06/01/2021 12:07:27 5 0
bbc
They are no going to be banned. Just banned from new sales.

They are not going to let you buy one the day before the 'ban' and then expect you to not drive thereafter!
107
06/01/2021 12:22:03 2 0
bbc
Yes, in a few decades we'll probably look like Cuba, with lots of ancient cars lovingly tended to keep them roadworthy.
78
06/01/2021 12:08:27 66 2
bbc
New car registrations were already in decline before the pandemic, due to a mix of diesel emission scandals and new policies on electric cars.

The growth in the last decade was fuelled by PCP contracts, people buying cars they never owned, and that bubble has now burst.

I will hold on to my 3yr old petrol car for a few more years to see what happens with electric car prices and range.
361
06/01/2021 19:11:06 7 1
bbc
Likewise - I am holding on to my 7 year old diesel for the same reasons.
79
06/01/2021 12:08:38 2 2
bbc
Not surprising is it really to say everything has been closed and no one can drive anywhere.
80
06/01/2021 12:09:23 3 4
bbc
I guess that the BBC will try to convince us in their next Business article that fuel sales declined in 2020 and try as hard as they can to find a reason, perhaps even blaming Brexit!
94
mc
06/01/2021 12:11:39 0 0
bbc
fuel prices went up this year and still rising in my area
69
06/01/2021 11:58:03 15 20
bbc
EVs will reach price parity in about two years time. Then increasing taxes on ICE vehicles will soon render them obsolete. Battery technology is moving at speed. Range is increasing, charging times reducing. Whether you oil industry 'lobbyists' like it or not, batteries and renewable energy are the future
81
06/01/2021 12:10:40 6 6
bbc
Battery technology is not moving at speed. Physical barriers are hit and improvements are coming from fiddling at the edges.
25
06/01/2021 11:36:36 25 7
bbc
If everyone has an electric car where are they supposed to charge it
82
06/01/2021 12:11:38 6 2
bbc
Taxed my car today on GOV website and afterwards followed the link about electric cars.

Almost spat my coffee out when I read the hilarious line about the benefits which stated 'average charging times are 8-12 hours, so the car is already to go when you are'. I wouldn't be banding that around as a selling point!

In fairness, underneath it mentioned that rapid chargers hit 80% in around an hour.
123
06/01/2021 12:32:04 7 3
bbc
If you can locate a rapid charger that doesn’t have a queue forming behind it......
83
06/01/2021 12:12:44 4 1
bbc
EV prices are far too high for most people. Lithium has apparently been discovered in the South East, so battery production could be done in the UK.
However unless prices drop significantly the uptake will be much lower than the government wants.
105
06/01/2021 12:20:09 3 0
bbc
The car industry itself says two years to price parity for EVs and ICE. Then increasing taxes on ICE vehicles will spell a rapid end for them.
58
06/01/2021 11:52:37 3 7
bbc
Bojo was going to buy a new car but he dithered and delayed.

He eventually did a U-turn in his old one.
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06/01/2021 12:13:23 3 1
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Sadly you are no longer funny, but utterly boring and contemptible.
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06/01/2021 11:27:18 11 3
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The future of cars is probably autonomous electrics and membership of car club type companies, then you just call one up when you need it, and you don't have to worry about that extra half pint! In the future it is possible that few people will actually buy their own car.
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06/01/2021 12:13:36 3 1
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Sorry, but there is a sub-set of society who throw rubbish out of windows and leave mess for others to tidy up.

I would rather my own clean space as opposed to potentially share with the more selfish and disgusting elements of society.
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06/01/2021 12:33:33 2 1
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People that behaved like that would be charged for a clean up and lose their membership. Just like with hire companies today!
75
06/01/2021 12:06:39 2 3
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What is the rationale of this article other than lazy reporting?

Surely it stands to reason for any reasonable person to understand, that when the country has been in lockdown or had travel severely restricted that new car sales would decline. It is not rocket science that if you have nowhere to go you do not need a new vehicle or indeed any vehicle whatsoever.
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06/01/2021 12:14:37 3 2
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so if you live near say man u and you hear their supporters celebrating after a match and work out they must have won, the media havnt to give a report?
what a joyless nitpicker you are, on now the 2nd identical moan ans ive only read 5 posts in all
it got light this morning, did that annoy you as well, :-(
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06/01/2021 14:52:26 1 0
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Your post does not make any sense, so perhaps you might like to rewrite it into comprehensible English. Remember the old maxim: People might think you are a fool, but why open your mouth and prove it.
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06/01/2021 12:15:51 9 3
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Out with the old, in with the new: Britain could be a leading manufacturer of electric cars if the industry gets its act together. Bring on the Green revolution.
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06/01/2021 13:15:14 10 8
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Sure, "could". All British car makers went bust or were bought by foreign companies, following years of making shoddy cars not even British consumers were buying.

Then the same British consumers voted for Brexit, that threatened the few car makers left.

It doesn't look like we're any good at managing the car industry.
75
06/01/2021 12:06:39 2 3
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What is the rationale of this article other than lazy reporting?

Surely it stands to reason for any reasonable person to understand, that when the country has been in lockdown or had travel severely restricted that new car sales would decline. It is not rocket science that if you have nowhere to go you do not need a new vehicle or indeed any vehicle whatsoever.
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06/01/2021 12:16:35 2 2
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I agree, the BBC Website is all about quantity, not quality. Lots of photo content that is days if not weeks old, lots of it lightwight and patronising and it seems now endless photos of our "supreme leader." Too many geeks with too little real reporting to do.
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06/01/2021 11:52:37 3 7
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Bojo was going to buy a new car but he dithered and delayed.

He eventually did a U-turn in his old one.
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06/01/2021 12:17:06 0 1
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quite funny, and some tory sour face no sense of humour boris bum lickers have downvoted it :-)
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06/01/2021 11:45:13 61 24
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Make sure you buy cars made in the UK.

Jaguar
Land Rover
MINI
Vauxhall
Nissan
Honda
Bentley
Mclaren
Rolls Royce
Lotus
Toyota
Aston Martin

There are loads to choose from at every price point.

By buying British cars we could add an extra £100 billion on to the UK economy and create 100's of thousands of jobs.

The UK also needs to create a world leading electric car brand.

iRover perhaps?
90
06/01/2021 12:17:55 1 12
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ford first and foremost
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06/01/2021 12:45:55 2 8
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Ford last & never.

UK haters.
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06/01/2021 11:46:11 21 26
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My Tesla has a better range than my old Astra!
Also, petrol is a finite resource so has no long-term future.
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06/01/2021 12:18:39 7 1
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you are lucky to be able to afford a tesla
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06/01/2021 12:18:48 4 0
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UK needs a world beating electric car brand.

The government should not write a blank cheque...

BUT the government should offer massive tax breaks and incentives.

Creating tech and electric car brands is the way forward for the UK.
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06/01/2021 12:24:46 5 1
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And Honda is due to move out in July this year, leaving a huge manufacturing facility available for re-tooling and re-occupation by a new manufacturer.
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06/01/2021 17:31:13 0 0
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Honestly UK car and Electric`s not a good paring. Even Ford shipped cars to Belgium to have the electrics done over there. UK is only good at high end stuff. look at F1 mostly here Moto GP mostly here. Do we want mass production in the UK ? loads of min wage job`s ?
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06/01/2021 12:09:40 5 0
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Nobody needs a new car. Most people are hardly using their old ones. Most people I know have seen their average mileage fall to about 25-30% of normal. Still pay the same road tax and insurance however.
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06/01/2021 12:09:23 3 4
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I guess that the BBC will try to convince us in their next Business article that fuel sales declined in 2020 and try as hard as they can to find a reason, perhaps even blaming Brexit!
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mc
06/01/2021 12:11:39 0 0
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fuel prices went up this year and still rising in my area
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06/01/2021 12:44:44 0 0
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Read the article. It does not state that fuel prices went up or down, but it does infer that given the main reason for the drop in sales of new cars has been due to restrictions on travel that fuel sales would also have significantly reduced.
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06/01/2021 11:58:03 15 20
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EVs will reach price parity in about two years time. Then increasing taxes on ICE vehicles will soon render them obsolete. Battery technology is moving at speed. Range is increasing, charging times reducing. Whether you oil industry 'lobbyists' like it or not, batteries and renewable energy are the future
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mc
06/01/2021 12:14:10 5 5
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charge them wgere, a shopping centre will need min 1000 charging station
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06/01/2021 12:05:05 0 1
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Use solar and wind to make hydrogen

Hydrogen for larger vehicles - lorries buses trains diggers etc

Minimise use of battery power please rate minerals

Balance needed in these discussions
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06/01/2021 12:17:16 1 0
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Hydrogen cars do have batteries! The hydrogen fuel cells charge batteries that drive the car. So they are sort of a hybrid, unnecessarily complicated and expensive. Hydrogen cars are horrendously expensive. It might work for trains and HGVs, but will not make the cut in personal cars and small vans.
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06/01/2021 12:42:01 1 1
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Apart from the ones being made by BMW.....?
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Si
06/01/2021 12:17:25 1 1
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So we remove the possibility of buying one due to lock down and we remove peoples ability to buy one by putting them out of work and the BBC wonders why sales fell.
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06/01/2021 12:44:35 1 0
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BBC reports what happens. This is a business story relevant to many people who are involved in the motor trade and who know that they are living in a time of change. It also impacts on overall UK economy. You´ll probably find similar in Mail/Telegraph/Express/Sun/Times or other news source of your choice.
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06/01/2021 11:44:51 7 3
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The car industry itself way that in about two years time ICE and electric cars will reach price parity. Batteries are improving all the time, soon range will not be a problem.
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06/01/2021 12:19:42 8 6
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range always a problem for electric
131
06/01/2021 12:31:11 7 7
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More oil industry rubbish. Most people only drive short journeys, so range with an EV is rarely a problem.
44
06/01/2021 11:45:13 61 24
bbc
Make sure you buy cars made in the UK.

Jaguar
Land Rover
MINI
Vauxhall
Nissan
Honda
Bentley
Mclaren
Rolls Royce
Lotus
Toyota
Aston Martin

There are loads to choose from at every price point.

By buying British cars we could add an extra £100 billion on to the UK economy and create 100's of thousands of jobs.

The UK also needs to create a world leading electric car brand.

iRover perhaps?
99
06/01/2021 12:19:55 20 8
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It makes very little difference what car you buy - apart from one or two niche brands, any of the above could have been assembled in multiple plants across several countries, using parts manufactured across even more countries. Brexit just means that in future less of the process will involve British plants.
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06/01/2021 11:48:40 8 4
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Complete rubbish.

Petrol and diesel cars are very 20th century - the world has moved on.
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06/01/2021 12:20:16 2 4
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dont think so, need the range