Online schooling: Calls to cut data fees during Covid lockdowns
05/01/2021 | news | technology | 317
The children's commissioner for England and Labour's leader call on firms to help low-income families.
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05/01/2021 17:03:41 15 3
bbc
We're getting to the point with mobile networks that limits should really start being done away with, they're fast and now available for use as home broadband.

They should be sold with regards to speed alone, as is done for wired connections, this would allow anyone unlimited access on the cheap as long as they don't mind sacrificing the speed at which they access things. Freedom of connectivity.
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05/01/2021 17:15:52 12 5
bbc
you mean exactly as has not happened with gas, water, electricity, fuel, streaming...people who use the most should pay the most
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jon
05/01/2021 17:07:37 13 15
bbc
maybe the govt could have used the 12bn faffed against a wall on test and trace.....or maybe the 100bn on Hs2, or the 100bn on 2 pointless aircraft carriers...but what the hell who cares about ordinary people struggling every day......not this govt thats for sure
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05/01/2021 17:12:24 9 6
bbc
I agree with most of your comment, apart from the 2 boats for the matelots, Mr Corbyn.. this country still needs an effective deterrent, which unfortunately includes the navy and airfarce... the army cant be expected to do it all, as usual
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05/01/2021 17:14:28 1 1
bbc
yeh right, since hs2 will be fully of government officials with nobody else using in; the same guys will probably build it as well wont they; oh and these same eschelons of society are no doubt the same ones driving and building the ships....
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05/01/2021 17:08:43 5 1
bbc
A lot needs to be done to allow pupils to catch up once schools are safe.
It is unfortunate that home schooling will mean device sharing for some, or no device at all for others.
Presumably, those companies that have benefited from lockdowns (supermarkets, broadband providers, etc.) will be paying more in tax but perhaps more help for home-schooling is needed.
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05/01/2021 17:11:50 43 1
bbc
A delivery of 560,000 laptops in 6 months is impressive but why can't the BBC provide context? About how many children will need laptops? How many children are entitled to free meals in schools?

That will help us understand if the 560,000 is a good start or requires more work!
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05/01/2021 17:16:16 33 20
bbc
Its estimated that 1.8million kids have no comptuer access at home & 500,000 is half what was promised

the company that has the £96,000,000 contract is obviously run by a Tory donor who gave them £100,000 at the last GE
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05/01/2021 17:22:27 6 12
bbc
Of course its the governments fault. We don't need evidence. Its all the governments fault. Everything. Got it.
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05/01/2021 17:46:48 10 0
bbc
I hope they don't all end up in cash converters.
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06/01/2021 02:51:11 1 0
bbc
forget laptops

if we can build 1,000 mini HS/2's, then kids will be able to get back to school quicker when it opens.

forward thinking, people.
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jon
05/01/2021 17:07:37 13 15
bbc
maybe the govt could have used the 12bn faffed against a wall on test and trace.....or maybe the 100bn on Hs2, or the 100bn on 2 pointless aircraft carriers...but what the hell who cares about ordinary people struggling every day......not this govt thats for sure
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05/01/2021 17:12:24 9 6
bbc
I agree with most of your comment, apart from the 2 boats for the matelots, Mr Corbyn.. this country still needs an effective deterrent, which unfortunately includes the navy and airfarce... the army cant be expected to do it all, as usual
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05/01/2021 17:12:50 41 26
bbc
im sure these people find enough money to spend on sky dishes and streaming crap....if there are benefits for this it should be firmly clamped down to educaiton releated streaming. WHy should i fund their netflix
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05/01/2021 17:21:32 27 37
bbc
Why should I fund your vaccine?
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05/01/2021 17:24:17 17 5
bbc
We funded your education but it appears from your illiterate scrawl you missed a few lessons.
Ignoring that, you seem very angry at the concept of wanting to provide education to everyone in society.
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05/01/2021 18:01:57 8 3
bbc
I bet you're one of those who says we should "look after our own first rather than foreigners", but then forget to add that excludes our own poor kids, homeless, disabled etc. I suspect we / society has funded many things for your life like education, healthcare, transport, why should we fund these for you ?
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05/01/2021 18:18:10 4 2
bbc
Yawn
Sounds like and looks like you've been on the Tesco Value lager.

Did you finish your "educaiton" by any chance?
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05/01/2021 17:13:12 48 13
bbc
Labour's manifesto pledge is free, high quality broadband for all is sounding pretty good right now.

Unfortunately BT/OpenReach let the network stagnate for decades and most of us are still stuck with slow copper.
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05/01/2021 17:20:36 12 13
bbc
Government must give everyone free cable now.
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05/01/2021 17:29:49 7 1
bbc
No such thing as free, someone always has to pay.
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05/01/2021 17:40:51 5 1
bbc
Whilst I am not the greatest fan of BT/OpenReach, you can't lay the stagnation of the network entirely at their door. In the 80/90's they were planning a Multi-Billion Pound investment (in todays monies) in the telephone network, but as they were prevented from entering the Cable TV market at the time there was no achievable return on their investment so it was not financially viable.
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Bob
05/01/2021 18:58:41 4 3
bbc
This has nothing to do with fixed-line internet. This is about mobile internet, especially so because those with no internet are being given 4G routers because this allows instant access vs. slow in-person installs of fixed line services.

Caps and limits for fixed-line broadband is a thing of the past.
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05/01/2021 19:19:32 5 0
bbc
Yes I voted for it! So it everyone else's fault it did not come to pass. Basic infrastructure of this century, not rich man's rail for rich mates.
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06/01/2021 11:23:16 0 0
bbc
It was a pledge to deliver free broadband by 2030, so not much use during the current pandemic.

Better to provide targeted help to those who need it, rather than offering government run (and monitored/censored) StalinNet to those who can afford to pay for a decent service.
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OwO
06/01/2021 13:00:12 0 0
bbc
If you believed that rubbish, I've got a lovely bridge you might like to buy
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06/01/2021 13:13:39 0 0
bbc
BT openreach have been hamstrung by successive governments siting fare play for other operators, operators that can only deliver services over BT openreach networks, but hey don't let that stop you blaming the wrong people.
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05/01/2021 17:13:23 11 1
bbc
We're lucky we have a printer but the cost of ink is ridiculous. Another issue is my 63 year old mother in law is having to do the supervision and teaching whilst we are working. She has underlying health issues and so does her husband so it's still a risk for them but what can we do?
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05/01/2021 17:19:55 19 16
bbc
Why are the government not giving out free ink cartridges. Outrageous.
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05/01/2021 17:56:16 4 0
bbc
Should have bought a monochrome laser printer, far cheaper to run. I own a Brother colour laser and it's still cheaper to run than inkjet when you buy the OEM toner.
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05/01/2021 18:04:36 2 0
bbc
Cost of ink cartridges: if you buy a cheap printer, then cartridge cost is expensive. The manufacturers sell the printers cheap but make their profit on sales of those cartridges. Buy a more expensive printer to start with: the cartridge cost falls, since the cartridges last a lot longer.
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06/01/2021 04:40:21 1 0
bbc
Pen and paper cheaper. Then take pictures of the pages and submit them using a phone. Think low tech if high tech is too expensive.
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06/01/2021 19:11:39 0 0
bbc
The cost of ink is a scandal. Worse is the printers (HP among them) who make sure you cant use cheaper ink from others (I have thrown ALL my HP printers in the bin because they are too expensive to run and replaced them).
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05/01/2021 17:13:57 39 15
bbc
And yet broadband providers are getting ready for a price increase.
Internet access is now a "must have". Should it be nationalised?
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05/01/2021 17:19:19 23 32
bbc
Absolutely not.
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05/01/2021 17:35:36 15 2
bbc
Really ?

I was paying more for dial-up than I am now for fast broadband, telecoms charges have never been so cheap.
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05/01/2021 18:51:35 1 1
bbc
Don't be silly!
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05/01/2021 17:14:01 63 14
bbc
The government have had 9 months to prepare to this

How is it that they are only just asking for it now?

& Peter Hulmes company Computacentre- whos wife donnated £100,000 to the Tories at the last GE got the contract to supply laptops to disadvantaged kids in June, receiving £96,000, 000!

Theyve not even got half the promised number of laptops to kids (which was way short of what was needed)
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05/01/2021 17:18:56 37 37
bbc
yeh, governments fault. Everything, all the time,
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cba
05/01/2021 17:59:27 7 0
bbc
Now that,s what you call worth the bung
£100 grand for 96 mill !
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05/01/2021 19:23:41 4 0
bbc
Am I missing something, 560k laptops is half way through a £96million contract, so over a million laptops for £100million, so less than £100 per laptop. That is a good deal. Cheap monitor, raspberry pi 4, case, keyboard, mouse and power supply would be over £100.

If this is true then hats off to the civil service who negotiate that one, shame they weren't on the brexit team!
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05/01/2021 21:24:00 1 0
bbc
But it looks like the data companies are helping. Is there a lack of awareness? No parent is paying £97 a day for it so they must have been getting support somehow. But devices are needed. What is Dell or Apple doing?
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06/01/2021 10:52:30 2 1
bbc
Did you know we would be needing it 9 months ago. Crystal ball person.
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06/01/2021 13:09:33 1 0
bbc
Do you actually think that they had 100s of thousands of laptop laying on a shelf somewhere!
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06/01/2021 18:58:05 0 0
bbc
Doesnt surprise me. There are countless examples of contracts going to the wrong or totally inept people under every government since the war - of both colours. The only thing (apart from incompetence) that is common is the civil service, and it is there you must look for the REAL answers.
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jon
05/01/2021 17:07:37 13 15
bbc
maybe the govt could have used the 12bn faffed against a wall on test and trace.....or maybe the 100bn on Hs2, or the 100bn on 2 pointless aircraft carriers...but what the hell who cares about ordinary people struggling every day......not this govt thats for sure
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05/01/2021 17:14:28 1 1
bbc
yeh right, since hs2 will be fully of government officials with nobody else using in; the same guys will probably build it as well wont they; oh and these same eschelons of society are no doubt the same ones driving and building the ships....
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05/01/2021 17:14:54 7 15
bbc
Send the bills to Boris for schooling children, if no results fail to vote for BORIS and keep telling him so,
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
I WANT MY MONET REURNED
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05/01/2021 17:24:31 14 1
bbc
You can have my MONET if you want, I don't need it.
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05/01/2021 17:28:27 3 2
bbc
Good luck with that, my son has been left without any education since 2017! 4 tribunals later and still at home.
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05/01/2021 17:50:57 2 0
bbc
that reminds me, i have a bottle of Moet i keep meaning to throw away.
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05/01/2021 18:08:04 1 0
bbc
If you had a Monet what happened to it? Worth a mint now ??
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05/01/2021 17:03:41 15 3
bbc
We're getting to the point with mobile networks that limits should really start being done away with, they're fast and now available for use as home broadband.

They should be sold with regards to speed alone, as is done for wired connections, this would allow anyone unlimited access on the cheap as long as they don't mind sacrificing the speed at which they access things. Freedom of connectivity.
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05/01/2021 17:15:52 12 5
bbc
you mean exactly as has not happened with gas, water, electricity, fuel, streaming...people who use the most should pay the most
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05/01/2021 17:22:30 2 2
bbc
Drubbish
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Bob
05/01/2021 19:02:16 5 2
bbc
That is because those things are consumable resources. Bandwidth is not. There isn't a finite amount of it, nor is it something that costs more to create. The line can handle a maximum speed and it does not cost more to transmit more data over that line.
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05/01/2021 17:11:50 43 1
bbc
A delivery of 560,000 laptops in 6 months is impressive but why can't the BBC provide context? About how many children will need laptops? How many children are entitled to free meals in schools?

That will help us understand if the 560,000 is a good start or requires more work!
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05/01/2021 17:16:16 33 20
bbc
Its estimated that 1.8million kids have no comptuer access at home & 500,000 is half what was promised

the company that has the £96,000,000 contract is obviously run by a Tory donor who gave them £100,000 at the last GE
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05/01/2021 19:27:02 4 0
bbc
But that is less than £100 per laptop, that is very good deal for the government. Must have given the government a good rate, probably running at a loss to help out the kids.
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06/01/2021 13:11:24 0 0
bbc
total BS, computacentre, had 500,000 laptops on a shelf in a shop did they, and im sorry but very few people have no access to the internet, either by laptop, tablet or mobile, and dont get me started on cost of data, 100gb for £20 a month, is that so hard to find?
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05/01/2021 17:14:01 63 14
bbc
The government have had 9 months to prepare to this

How is it that they are only just asking for it now?

& Peter Hulmes company Computacentre- whos wife donnated £100,000 to the Tories at the last GE got the contract to supply laptops to disadvantaged kids in June, receiving £96,000, 000!

Theyve not even got half the promised number of laptops to kids (which was way short of what was needed)
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05/01/2021 17:18:56 37 37
bbc
yeh, governments fault. Everything, all the time,
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05/01/2021 17:20:37 26 9
bbc
Poor reply Freddie. Very poor.
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05/01/2021 18:25:21 6 4
bbc
You’re so right
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05/01/2021 18:29:26 17 1
bbc
No, just the things that are their responsibility that they've obviously failed at... which just happens to be a lot (unless you excitedly voted them in and get defensive about it).
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06/01/2021 02:50:04 1 1
bbc
you're learning
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05/01/2021 17:13:57 39 15
bbc
And yet broadband providers are getting ready for a price increase.
Internet access is now a "must have". Should it be nationalised?
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05/01/2021 17:19:19 23 32
bbc
Absolutely not.
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05/01/2021 17:31:32 8 5
bbc
Is your real name Dominic Cummings?
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05/01/2021 17:44:12 9 11
bbc
The information superhighway should be free - paid for by taxation. Just like roads and footpaths are.
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05/01/2021 18:31:59 3 2
bbc
Why not?
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05/01/2021 17:13:23 11 1
bbc
We're lucky we have a printer but the cost of ink is ridiculous. Another issue is my 63 year old mother in law is having to do the supervision and teaching whilst we are working. She has underlying health issues and so does her husband so it's still a risk for them but what can we do?
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05/01/2021 17:19:55 19 16
bbc
Why are the government not giving out free ink cartridges. Outrageous.
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05/01/2021 17:45:31 6 1
bbc
Why print? Don't children learn to write on paper, slates any more?
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05/01/2021 18:10:43 3 1
bbc
Was this satire or genuine? So hard to know nowadays whether people are being clever, or the opposite!
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05/01/2021 17:13:12 48 13
bbc
Labour's manifesto pledge is free, high quality broadband for all is sounding pretty good right now.

Unfortunately BT/OpenReach let the network stagnate for decades and most of us are still stuck with slow copper.
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05/01/2021 17:20:36 12 13
bbc
Government must give everyone free cable now.
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05/01/2021 18:53:09 0 5
bbc
Free cable????.
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06/01/2021 17:29:11 0 0
bbc
Riiiight. So right now they must dig up thousands of miles of roads to get free cable installed to every home? And you want that 'now'? If they decided to do it now it would be 2040 before that happened, by which time cable Internet would probably be obsolete. I look forward to the '£45.8m cable connection to remote farmhouse scandal' headlines.
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05/01/2021 17:18:56 37 37
bbc
yeh, governments fault. Everything, all the time,
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05/01/2021 17:20:37 26 9
bbc
Poor reply Freddie. Very poor.
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05/01/2021 17:12:50 41 26
bbc
im sure these people find enough money to spend on sky dishes and streaming crap....if there are benefits for this it should be firmly clamped down to educaiton releated streaming. WHy should i fund their netflix
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05/01/2021 17:21:32 27 37
bbc
Why should I fund your vaccine?
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05/01/2021 18:11:52 3 1
bbc
You wouldn't be, I'm sure they are happily funding their own through Tax and NI.
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06/01/2021 19:06:13 0 0
bbc
Thats simpler, because if others cant catch the virus they dont transmit it to you. But the basic question of why should I pay for your netflix is valid. I dont mind paying for some food if you are really down on your luck but NOT paying for you to have luxuries that I cant afford (including a spare bedroom, tv, holiday etc etc etc)
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05/01/2021 17:21:39 5 13
bbc
Even in America they've manage to supply laptops and internet connectors but if that was too difficult for us then we really need a contingency plan.

I know it sounds old fashioned but what about work books and text books and good old fashioned pen and paper? The government could have funded schools (they way they are protecting their landlord incomes) to provide paper based emergency work.
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05/01/2021 17:23:47 10 1
bbc
lol. No they havent.
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05/01/2021 18:13:53 0 0
bbc
Ermmm - no they haven't, large swathes of the US are like the UK, no hi-speed internet and no cell phone coverage
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05/01/2021 17:11:50 43 1
bbc
A delivery of 560,000 laptops in 6 months is impressive but why can't the BBC provide context? About how many children will need laptops? How many children are entitled to free meals in schools?

That will help us understand if the 560,000 is a good start or requires more work!
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05/01/2021 17:22:27 6 12
bbc
Of course its the governments fault. We don't need evidence. Its all the governments fault. Everything. Got it.
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05/01/2021 18:31:42 0 1
bbc
They just gave you the figures. If there's anyone spouting rhetoric without any supportive evidence, it's you.
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05/01/2021 17:15:52 12 5
bbc
you mean exactly as has not happened with gas, water, electricity, fuel, streaming...people who use the most should pay the most
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05/01/2021 17:22:30 2 2
bbc
Drubbish
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37p
05/01/2021 17:55:38 1 0
bbc
Why is it drubbish?
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05/01/2021 17:23:40 9 8
bbc
so its' reasonable to expect families on average earnings of ~ £28k to provide up to date laptops for each child and parent every 3 years or so in case there's a need for remote schooling/working? All they usually need is a phone - if that. What planet do these people live on?
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cba
05/01/2021 17:32:29 24 1
bbc
People on 28k a year should be able to afford it they just don,t want to.I feel sorry for those on minimum wage doing 50 hrs per week and still don,t earn 28k per year.Ask them if they could afford it their answer would probably be "I would have to they are my kids"
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37p
05/01/2021 17:59:44 5 0
bbc
Why do you need an up to date laptop. Mines 10 years old and still runs everything I need including online conferencing.
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05/01/2021 17:23:43 71 15
bbc
Help kids learn on-line by:
Training all teachers to use ICT for learning!! --removed by Mr Gove/Nick Gibb 2010
Include the use of ICT in all areas of teh curriculum--removed by Mr Gove/Nick Gibb 2010
Have a national schools ICT infrastructure program--removed by Mr Gove/Nick Gibb 2010
Have world class e-learning research and development organisation (BECTA)--removed by Mr Gove/Nick Gibb 2010
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05/01/2021 18:24:43 11 26
bbc
Thats the trouble with Liberals
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05/01/2021 19:13:50 3 10
bbc
Schools and schooling teachers have no place in a future of home based proper education. Lessons only need making once by professional presenters. Seen by millions. Lay off all school staff. Pass the education budget out per child to use for education costs. Schooling in gulags of 'free' childcare is last century.
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06/01/2021 10:23:11 2 0
bbc
How many intelligent (well, degree level educated) professionals under the age of 60 needed adult training in the use of computers and ICT outside of the teaching profession?

What other training do you think the evil Tories have wrongly taken away from them, use and maintenance of a slate tablet and how to prepare a feather for use as a quill?
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06/01/2021 11:19:20 1 0
bbc
ICT was a joke subject introduced to pretend we are prepared for a tech economy when teachers decided computer science was too hard.

If teachers need dedicated training in how to use word, PowerPoint and Excel, then I feel sorry for the kids.
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05/01/2021 17:21:39 5 13
bbc
Even in America they've manage to supply laptops and internet connectors but if that was too difficult for us then we really need a contingency plan.

I know it sounds old fashioned but what about work books and text books and good old fashioned pen and paper? The government could have funded schools (they way they are protecting their landlord incomes) to provide paper based emergency work.
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05/01/2021 17:23:47 10 1
bbc
lol. No they havent.
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05/01/2021 17:12:50 41 26
bbc
im sure these people find enough money to spend on sky dishes and streaming crap....if there are benefits for this it should be firmly clamped down to educaiton releated streaming. WHy should i fund their netflix
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05/01/2021 17:24:17 17 5
bbc
We funded your education but it appears from your illiterate scrawl you missed a few lessons.
Ignoring that, you seem very angry at the concept of wanting to provide education to everyone in society.
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05/01/2021 17:14:54 7 15
bbc
Send the bills to Boris for schooling children, if no results fail to vote for BORIS and keep telling him so,
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
I WANT MY MONET REURNED
29
05/01/2021 17:24:31 14 1
bbc
You can have my MONET if you want, I don't need it.
34
05/01/2021 17:27:44 4 0
bbc
I have a MANET, too wishy washy for my tastes...
49
05/01/2021 17:47:08 4 0
bbc
Are you sure you want to just give it away, some of his paintings are worth millions.
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06/01/2021 15:46:02 0 0
bbc
I’ll have your Monet, minimum 50 million??
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05/01/2021 17:25:16 12 12
bbc
And it seems like only the day before yesterday that our world beating prime minister confidently declared that all primary schools are “safe … very, very important to stress that” and must stay open. Lockdown is obviously playing tricks with my memory.
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05/01/2021 18:01:49 8 0
bbc
Having had the pleasure(?) of watching the mums at my local primary school I would suggest the school is safe, but the mothers are not. They don't have a clue about social distancing, giving way, leaving space for people to pass, etc. And they are very good at blocking access to pavements.
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cba
05/01/2021 17:25:49 49 32
bbc
This is utter rubbish just one night off the computer games,playstations xbox etc would save more than enough data for schooling
Honestly people are just so quick to jump to get something for free and won,t take any responsibility for their own childrens education
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05/01/2021 17:31:02 11 14
bbc
But you don't pay per MB outgoing in the UK... so one night "off" video games wouldn't change the amount of data you have... (unless you're streaming from mobiles)

In the UK you pay for the "thickness of the pipe (speed of outgoings)", not the amount of data...

EG - a 25mb connection would be faster than a 10mb connection (in theory).
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05/01/2021 18:36:24 6 2
bbc
This is just a wonderful display of know-it-all British ignorance, upvoted twice as much as downvoted.

You don't 'save data' on your broadband connection by not going online ??
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Fo
06/01/2021 00:07:02 0 0
bbc
They don’t take any responsibility for having had children !
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06/01/2021 00:56:41 4 1
bbc
Your comment is utter rubbish. Playing games uses hardly any data bandwidth (and non-networked games none at all). Streaming video (required for lessons) consumes vast amounts of data.
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06/01/2021 03:55:12 0 0
bbc
Pretty much the only Internet connections that are capped in terms of total MBs consumed per month are mobile plans. I doubt many people gaming online are doing it over a mobile connection with a data cap. Playing a multiplayer game doesn’t need to consume that much data, but downloading the game in the first place would often exceed a monthly cap.
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05/01/2021 17:16:16 33 20
bbc
Its estimated that 1.8million kids have no comptuer access at home & 500,000 is half what was promised

the company that has the £96,000,000 contract is obviously run by a Tory donor who gave them £100,000 at the last GE
11
05/01/2021 17:14:01 63 14
bbc
The government have had 9 months to prepare to this

How is it that they are only just asking for it now?

& Peter Hulmes company Computacentre- whos wife donnated £100,000 to the Tories at the last GE got the contract to supply laptops to disadvantaged kids in June, receiving £96,000, 000!

Theyve not even got half the promised number of laptops to kids (which was way short of what was needed)
29
05/01/2021 17:24:31 14 1
bbc
You can have my MONET if you want, I don't need it.
34
05/01/2021 17:27:44 4 0
bbc
I have a MANET, too wishy washy for my tastes...
13
05/01/2021 17:14:54 7 15
bbc
Send the bills to Boris for schooling children, if no results fail to vote for BORIS and keep telling him so,
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
I WANT MY MONET REURNED
35
05/01/2021 17:28:27 3 2
bbc
Good luck with that, my son has been left without any education since 2017! 4 tribunals later and still at home.
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05/01/2021 17:13:12 48 13
bbc
Labour's manifesto pledge is free, high quality broadband for all is sounding pretty good right now.

Unfortunately BT/OpenReach let the network stagnate for decades and most of us are still stuck with slow copper.
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05/01/2021 17:29:49 7 1
bbc
No such thing as free, someone always has to pay.
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cba
05/01/2021 17:25:49 49 32
bbc
This is utter rubbish just one night off the computer games,playstations xbox etc would save more than enough data for schooling
Honestly people are just so quick to jump to get something for free and won,t take any responsibility for their own childrens education
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05/01/2021 17:31:02 11 14
bbc
But you don't pay per MB outgoing in the UK... so one night "off" video games wouldn't change the amount of data you have... (unless you're streaming from mobiles)

In the UK you pay for the "thickness of the pipe (speed of outgoings)", not the amount of data...

EG - a 25mb connection would be faster than a 10mb connection (in theory).
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05/01/2021 17:44:41 4 1
bbc
I'm so glad you added the (in theory) qualifier to that.
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cba
05/01/2021 17:47:20 3 5
bbc
Yes it does when you are playing live games or so virgin tell its all data.I am not talking about speed or bandwidth
309
06/01/2021 19:04:48 0 0
bbc
Not true for mobile contracts.
17
05/01/2021 17:19:19 23 32
bbc
Absolutely not.
38
05/01/2021 17:31:32 8 5
bbc
Is your real name Dominic Cummings?
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05/01/2021 17:23:40 9 8
bbc
so its' reasonable to expect families on average earnings of ~ £28k to provide up to date laptops for each child and parent every 3 years or so in case there's a need for remote schooling/working? All they usually need is a phone - if that. What planet do these people live on?
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cba
05/01/2021 17:32:29 24 1
bbc
People on 28k a year should be able to afford it they just don,t want to.I feel sorry for those on minimum wage doing 50 hrs per week and still don,t earn 28k per year.Ask them if they could afford it their answer would probably be "I would have to they are my kids"
10
05/01/2021 17:13:57 39 15
bbc
And yet broadband providers are getting ready for a price increase.
Internet access is now a "must have". Should it be nationalised?
40
05/01/2021 17:35:36 15 2
bbc
Really ?

I was paying more for dial-up than I am now for fast broadband, telecoms charges have never been so cheap.
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cba
05/01/2021 17:38:43 63 23
bbc
Why should everyone get free broadband,we don,t get free water,gas alectricity or even free food and they are definately basic necessities so come on grow up and jump off the whinging bandwagon.
Over 75,s don,t even get a free tv licence
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05/01/2021 17:56:32 12 10
bbc
cba, I can't understand people down-voting what you said.. Same as folks mis-reading your earlier post...
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05/01/2021 20:10:44 5 1
bbc
A slight correction, over 75s on pensioner credit get a free TV licence but I do agree with you too many people are expecting out for nowt.
209
05/01/2021 20:03:11 5 1
bbc
Primary and Secondary education is free in the country. At the moment children are unable to access their education and to do so incurs a cost due to broadband connection being needed.
236
06/01/2021 04:09:54 5 0
bbc
Actually people on benefits do effectively get food, gas and electric for free. The benefits are used to pay for them. Keep in mind that the idea for reduced cost broadband is to ensure that children can get an education - it isn’t a child’s fault their parents don’t have the money for broadband. And free TV licenses for over 75’s? Why should being over 75 entitle you to anything?
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06/01/2021 04:36:19 3 2
bbc
They shouldn't. They should get free access to educational websites and thats it. If they want access to facebook, instagram, tiktok, etc, they can pay for it themselves. Laptops or tablets supplied for education, should be used for school work only. Ideally the would be fenced into a separate network that contains education materials nationally and uses mobile networks.
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06/01/2021 19:00:28 0 0
bbc
What is needed is a radical rethink of tax and benefits. Tax ALL income for both people and companies at say 15%. Give ALL people over 18 enough to survive... not enough for tele, broadband, kids etc etc. Then if you want tv, broadband, sky, beer, kids, cars etc etc you have to go to work to get them.
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05/01/2021 17:13:12 48 13
bbc
Labour's manifesto pledge is free, high quality broadband for all is sounding pretty good right now.

Unfortunately BT/OpenReach let the network stagnate for decades and most of us are still stuck with slow copper.
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05/01/2021 17:40:51 5 1
bbc
Whilst I am not the greatest fan of BT/OpenReach, you can't lay the stagnation of the network entirely at their door. In the 80/90's they were planning a Multi-Billion Pound investment (in todays monies) in the telephone network, but as they were prevented from entering the Cable TV market at the time there was no achievable return on their investment so it was not financially viable.
43
05/01/2021 17:41:25 12 16
bbc
Shouldn't broadband be free for all, since so much of our lives depend on a stable internet connection? The service should be provided through taxation.
47
05/01/2021 17:45:51 14 5
bbc
Why should it be free, most families run PlayStation for da kids now
Who pays?
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05/01/2021 18:23:11 2 0
bbc
I assume you are a Marxist or something? Why should it be free? You want it you pay, you can't afford it, don't have it. Do you expect free food, free housing, free cars? Internet comes to those who go out and efff in earning it!
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05/01/2021 17:19:19 23 32
bbc
Absolutely not.
44
05/01/2021 17:44:12 9 11
bbc
The information superhighway should be free - paid for by taxation. Just like roads and footpaths are.
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05/01/2021 17:50:00 6 3
bbc
Yeah, cause once it's not a commercial enterprise it won't be left to go to rack and ruin, like the road and rail networks, or the water pipes, and NHS buildings have been... honestly.
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05/01/2021 18:09:44 3 6
bbc
except they aren't.

But if you want everyone to pay tax for it, try telling those on low incomes that you are reducing the tax free threshold by say £500 each year.
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05/01/2021 17:31:02 11 14
bbc
But you don't pay per MB outgoing in the UK... so one night "off" video games wouldn't change the amount of data you have... (unless you're streaming from mobiles)

In the UK you pay for the "thickness of the pipe (speed of outgoings)", not the amount of data...

EG - a 25mb connection would be faster than a 10mb connection (in theory).
45
05/01/2021 17:44:41 4 1
bbc
I'm so glad you added the (in theory) qualifier to that.
18
05/01/2021 17:19:55 19 16
bbc
Why are the government not giving out free ink cartridges. Outrageous.
46
05/01/2021 17:45:31 6 1
bbc
Why print? Don't children learn to write on paper, slates any more?
43
05/01/2021 17:41:25 12 16
bbc
Shouldn't broadband be free for all, since so much of our lives depend on a stable internet connection? The service should be provided through taxation.
47
05/01/2021 17:45:51 14 5
bbc
Why should it be free, most families run PlayStation for da kids now
Who pays?
100
05/01/2021 18:25:19 0 1
bbc
Nobody should pay. It's currently ran as a racket by companies in a fake competitive environment. Tax payers could just pick up a small maintenance bill.
5
05/01/2021 17:11:50 43 1
bbc
A delivery of 560,000 laptops in 6 months is impressive but why can't the BBC provide context? About how many children will need laptops? How many children are entitled to free meals in schools?

That will help us understand if the 560,000 is a good start or requires more work!
48
05/01/2021 17:46:48 10 0
bbc
I hope they don't all end up in cash converters.
59
05/01/2021 17:52:46 7 1
bbc
Hey, something has to fund the sky box. Stop being so judgemental.
218
05/01/2021 21:26:25 2 0
bbc
They should be lending them not just giving. Or let them buy them over time reduced. What happens in future? Will we just endlessly hand out laptops?
29
05/01/2021 17:24:31 14 1
bbc
You can have my MONET if you want, I don't need it.
49
05/01/2021 17:47:08 4 0
bbc
Are you sure you want to just give it away, some of his paintings are worth millions.
37
05/01/2021 17:31:02 11 14
bbc
But you don't pay per MB outgoing in the UK... so one night "off" video games wouldn't change the amount of data you have... (unless you're streaming from mobiles)

In the UK you pay for the "thickness of the pipe (speed of outgoings)", not the amount of data...

EG - a 25mb connection would be faster than a 10mb connection (in theory).
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cba
05/01/2021 17:47:20 3 5
bbc
Yes it does when you are playing live games or so virgin tell its all data.I am not talking about speed or bandwidth
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05/01/2021 18:26:52 4 0
bbc
In the UK you dont have data caps on your broadband. At least if you do you're getting mugged off because all the virgin offerings are for the speed of your broadband, not the total cap.

There for, if your child was playing video games in the evening that would make no effect on their usage in the daytime or at any other time.

It does affect usage at the current time.
110
05/01/2021 18:27:43 3 0
bbc
IF we was playing for data usage, then most deals would be in the hundreds of Gb's not Mb's
51
05/01/2021 17:48:38 11 2
bbc
Smarty is £18 per month, unlimited 4g data, on a rolling monthly contract, with no credit checks.
287
06/01/2021 13:31:45 0 0
bbc
We coughed up an extra £80 a month covid bonus to the idle, so that should help cover it.
52
05/01/2021 17:49:38 1 0
bbc
Have you noticed how even the simplest things in life have been made complex?

No money in simplification, vague couched mumbo jumbo wins the day, terms and conditions apply...
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05/01/2021 17:58:44 8 4
bbc
Yes. Once upon a time Microsoft Windows was relatively simple: Windows 98 and Windows XP. Then along came Vista (aargh!), Windows 7, Windows 8 and now we have Windows 10 - which is ridiculously over-complicated. Every time MS release a new version, things get worse.
53
05/01/2021 17:49:46 0 5
bbc
B... bu...but..b.... Communist Broadband?
44
05/01/2021 17:44:12 9 11
bbc
The information superhighway should be free - paid for by taxation. Just like roads and footpaths are.
54
05/01/2021 17:50:00 6 3
bbc
Yeah, cause once it's not a commercial enterprise it won't be left to go to rack and ruin, like the road and rail networks, or the water pipes, and NHS buildings have been... honestly.
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cba
05/01/2021 17:50:53 4 2
bbc
To ColenolB
Giving people free internet won,t make their connection any more stable
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05/01/2021 17:54:10 5 1
bbc
The topic of stability is irrelevant to this discussion which is about access costs.
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37p
05/01/2021 17:58:04 1 1
bbc
Mine couldn't be any more stable. My only issue is wifi conflicting with the 30 or so other routers nearby.
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05/01/2021 17:14:54 7 15
bbc
Send the bills to Boris for schooling children, if no results fail to vote for BORIS and keep telling him so,
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
I WANT MY MONET REURNED
56
05/01/2021 17:50:57 2 0
bbc
that reminds me, i have a bottle of Moet i keep meaning to throw away.
57
05/01/2021 17:51:40 11 4
bbc
Rishi could simply scrap the EU enforced 5% VAT on our energy bills helping every household in the country which would help the poorest afford the costs of data..asking companies to give up their profits on data whilst letting Amazon and the supermarkets cream it all off and offer no discounts for their goods is IMO obscene so windfall tax those that have made vast profits from this situation
239
06/01/2021 04:44:55 0 1
bbc
Or the Gov could roll out internet minus facebook and all that crap for free. If you want facebook, and premium services you use a paid service. if you don't want to pay you get the basics like email and educational sites on a slower connection that maybe only streams at 360p but is freely available to everyone. If run via mobile networks it would allow maximum coverage.
316
06/01/2021 19:15:12 0 0
bbc
Likes of Amazon et al who sell huge amounts in the UK but are then charged a huge amount to 'use the name' by a company that just happens to operate from a zero tax state. Tax companies like you do people on income not profit.
58
05/01/2021 17:52:43 3 9
bbc
Government should nationalise telephone and Internet whilst we are in the war against covid.
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05/01/2021 18:22:47 4 1
bbc
That got rejected as a policy in the last General Election

Even the most pessimistic about the pandemic cannot believe it will still be a factor by the time the state had taken over all the networks......

I am a bit left but I'd rather we subsidised poorer families' broadband than messed about with nationalisation
48
05/01/2021 17:46:48 10 0
bbc
I hope they don't all end up in cash converters.
59
05/01/2021 17:52:46 7 1
bbc
Hey, something has to fund the sky box. Stop being so judgemental.
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cba
05/01/2021 17:50:53 4 2
bbc
To ColenolB
Giving people free internet won,t make their connection any more stable
60
05/01/2021 17:54:10 5 1
bbc
The topic of stability is irrelevant to this discussion which is about access costs.
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cba
05/01/2021 18:25:49 0 0
bbc
That,s my point
24
05/01/2021 17:22:30 2 2
bbc
Drubbish
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37p
05/01/2021 17:55:38 1 0
bbc
Why is it drubbish?
9
05/01/2021 17:13:23 11 1
bbc
We're lucky we have a printer but the cost of ink is ridiculous. Another issue is my 63 year old mother in law is having to do the supervision and teaching whilst we are working. She has underlying health issues and so does her husband so it's still a risk for them but what can we do?
62
05/01/2021 17:56:16 4 0
bbc
Should have bought a monochrome laser printer, far cheaper to run. I own a Brother colour laser and it's still cheaper to run than inkjet when you buy the OEM toner.
63
05/01/2021 17:56:24 15 5
bbc
BT Openzone could be setup to allow free access to educational sites via any device. Any house with a BT hub is effectively a BT Openzone hotspot. Would be a big help.
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OwO
06/01/2021 13:15:27 0 0
bbc
"Just steal other people's network connections, it'll be great!".

Smh....
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cba
05/01/2021 17:38:43 63 23
bbc
Why should everyone get free broadband,we don,t get free water,gas alectricity or even free food and they are definately basic necessities so come on grow up and jump off the whinging bandwagon.
Over 75,s don,t even get a free tv licence
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05/01/2021 17:56:32 12 10
bbc
cba, I can't understand people down-voting what you said.. Same as folks mis-reading your earlier post...
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cba
05/01/2021 17:50:53 4 2
bbc
To ColenolB
Giving people free internet won,t make their connection any more stable
65
37p
05/01/2021 17:58:04 1 1
bbc
Mine couldn't be any more stable. My only issue is wifi conflicting with the 30 or so other routers nearby.
52
05/01/2021 17:49:38 1 0
bbc
Have you noticed how even the simplest things in life have been made complex?

No money in simplification, vague couched mumbo jumbo wins the day, terms and conditions apply...
66
05/01/2021 17:58:44 8 4
bbc
Yes. Once upon a time Microsoft Windows was relatively simple: Windows 98 and Windows XP. Then along came Vista (aargh!), Windows 7, Windows 8 and now we have Windows 10 - which is ridiculously over-complicated. Every time MS release a new version, things get worse.
11
05/01/2021 17:14:01 63 14
bbc
The government have had 9 months to prepare to this

How is it that they are only just asking for it now?

& Peter Hulmes company Computacentre- whos wife donnated £100,000 to the Tories at the last GE got the contract to supply laptops to disadvantaged kids in June, receiving £96,000, 000!

Theyve not even got half the promised number of laptops to kids (which was way short of what was needed)
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cba
05/01/2021 17:59:27 7 0
bbc
Now that,s what you call worth the bung
£100 grand for 96 mill !
25
05/01/2021 17:23:40 9 8
bbc
so its' reasonable to expect families on average earnings of ~ £28k to provide up to date laptops for each child and parent every 3 years or so in case there's a need for remote schooling/working? All they usually need is a phone - if that. What planet do these people live on?
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37p
05/01/2021 17:59:44 5 0
bbc
Why do you need an up to date laptop. Mines 10 years old and still runs everything I need including online conferencing.
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Jon
05/01/2021 18:00:25 6 2
bbc
I think my broadband provider has worked miracles.

I pay for a consumer (entertainment) level package, and they've essentially stepped up their game to support my entire family working from home and then watching in the evening for no extra fee.

The government talks of providers upping their game, but I say its the governments turn to up their game and back the fallout of their choices.
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05/01/2021 18:20:01 3 0
bbc
Entertainment (streaming video) is the most demanding use of broadband. So a domestic package should be enough unless all the kids are watching different lessons at the same time
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05/01/2021 17:25:16 12 12
bbc
And it seems like only the day before yesterday that our world beating prime minister confidently declared that all primary schools are “safe … very, very important to stress that” and must stay open. Lockdown is obviously playing tricks with my memory.
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05/01/2021 18:01:49 8 0
bbc
Having had the pleasure(?) of watching the mums at my local primary school I would suggest the school is safe, but the mothers are not. They don't have a clue about social distancing, giving way, leaving space for people to pass, etc. And they are very good at blocking access to pavements.
81
05/01/2021 18:15:30 0 0
bbc
Not sure a few mums chatting would make much difference given their kids are all mingling, so each parent is in either direct or indirect contact with 1000's.
7
05/01/2021 17:12:50 41 26
bbc
im sure these people find enough money to spend on sky dishes and streaming crap....if there are benefits for this it should be firmly clamped down to educaiton releated streaming. WHy should i fund their netflix
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05/01/2021 18:01:57 8 3
bbc
I bet you're one of those who says we should "look after our own first rather than foreigners", but then forget to add that excludes our own poor kids, homeless, disabled etc. I suspect we / society has funded many things for your life like education, healthcare, transport, why should we fund these for you ?
72
05/01/2021 18:02:39 25 2
bbc
Perhaps it’s time for some digital education tv channels available on Freeview?
113
05/01/2021 18:28:47 26 0
bbc
there used to be education programmes on the BBC in the mornings ... but nowadays there are too many garden home makeover shows and chat nonsense programs
184
05/01/2021 19:32:42 4 2
bbc
Yes extra channels are so easy now tv is digital. Any lesson that can be accessed on line could be timetabled on a tv channel. Access to good enough broadband is a red herring. Lie. Largely of the schooling self interested establishment who want to get paid replicating lessons locally by schooling teachers instead of one professional presenter made quality lesson the same for all. Much cheaper2!
9
05/01/2021 17:13:23 11 1
bbc
We're lucky we have a printer but the cost of ink is ridiculous. Another issue is my 63 year old mother in law is having to do the supervision and teaching whilst we are working. She has underlying health issues and so does her husband so it's still a risk for them but what can we do?
73
05/01/2021 18:04:36 2 0
bbc
Cost of ink cartridges: if you buy a cheap printer, then cartridge cost is expensive. The manufacturers sell the printers cheap but make their profit on sales of those cartridges. Buy a more expensive printer to start with: the cartridge cost falls, since the cartridges last a lot longer.
13
05/01/2021 17:14:54 7 15
bbc
Send the bills to Boris for schooling children, if no results fail to vote for BORIS and keep telling him so,
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
You have failed to pay for my child to be educated
I WANT MY MONET REURNED
74
05/01/2021 18:08:04 1 0
bbc
If you had a Monet what happened to it? Worth a mint now ??
75
05/01/2021 18:08:47 4 4
bbc
Perhaps the law that prevents you offering your neighbor to connect to your broadband can be temporarily removed, then we can be legally nice to one another. You can do it anyway ....
82
05/01/2021 18:15:30 7 0
bbc
What law. You can offer your broadband to anyone, the distance and willingness to do so are the problem
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cba
05/01/2021 18:23:28 1 1
bbc
Then you just get more free loaders and the people who can afford taking from the people that can,t
44
05/01/2021 17:44:12 9 11
bbc
The information superhighway should be free - paid for by taxation. Just like roads and footpaths are.
76
05/01/2021 18:09:44 3 6
bbc
except they aren't.

But if you want everyone to pay tax for it, try telling those on low incomes that you are reducing the tax free threshold by say £500 each year.
18
05/01/2021 17:19:55 19 16
bbc
Why are the government not giving out free ink cartridges. Outrageous.
77
05/01/2021 18:10:43 3 1
bbc
Was this satire or genuine? So hard to know nowadays whether people are being clever, or the opposite!
21
05/01/2021 17:21:32 27 37
bbc
Why should I fund your vaccine?
78
05/01/2021 18:11:52 3 1
bbc
You wouldn't be, I'm sure they are happily funding their own through Tax and NI.
22
05/01/2021 17:21:39 5 13
bbc
Even in America they've manage to supply laptops and internet connectors but if that was too difficult for us then we really need a contingency plan.

I know it sounds old fashioned but what about work books and text books and good old fashioned pen and paper? The government could have funded schools (they way they are protecting their landlord incomes) to provide paper based emergency work.
79
05/01/2021 18:13:53 0 0
bbc
Ermmm - no they haven't, large swathes of the US are like the UK, no hi-speed internet and no cell phone coverage
80
05/01/2021 18:15:21 32 1
bbc
Heres an idea..........Instead of 2500 dodgy commercial rackets selling third rate "learning content" for a fortune.
We have a national system FREE for all learners created by teachers and subject experts!! If it we're free for all children the likes of Attenborough, Brian Cox etc. would contribute content for nothing!! People are always willing to contribute to a worthy cause!
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cba
05/01/2021 18:20:45 11 5
bbc
Nice idea but usually these people want paying
97
05/01/2021 18:23:31 4 2
bbc
Attenborough & Cox all good but what we actually need is Play School and Word Wizard. Don't worry the BBC are on it.
111
05/01/2021 18:23:08 7 1
bbc
Woah steady on that sounds far to much like common sense! You mean modernising the way we provide education to get a consistent quality and level of across the UK? But we don't like changeeeee.....
180
05/01/2021 19:24:04 1 1
bbc
Obvious and the only future. However the entire establishment of pretend education, really schooling interests, are doing everything they can to hang on to their long past schooling concept as it pays them all a very high living that they all would lose the moment educating gets its 'high street' moment and evaporates schooling for better individual based, paced, actual education well presented.
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SK
05/01/2021 20:55:50 1 1
bbc
All it needs is for every teacher in the country to do one decent quality digital lesson and the entire curriculum for all years could be covered and made available to all children
223
05/01/2021 22:11:48 1 0
bbc
A national system free for all learners created by teachers [themselves being reasonably expert in their subjects]... Wait, would that not be the Oak National Academy?
266
06/01/2021 11:25:20 1 0
bbc
What makes you think Brian Cox is the best person to teach science to 12 year olds, or that he would want to give up months of his time preparing content?
307
06/01/2021 19:02:05 0 0
bbc
Probably because our teachers are incapable of puting together suitable lessons because the poor darlings would have to work at it. Thats why our teachers inflict crud like 'chip and kipper' on early kids and fail to use even basic mamod steam engines to explain energy in the classroom. They cant manage better. Those who do DO, those who cant teach is still true!
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05/01/2021 18:01:49 8 0
bbc
Having had the pleasure(?) of watching the mums at my local primary school I would suggest the school is safe, but the mothers are not. They don't have a clue about social distancing, giving way, leaving space for people to pass, etc. And they are very good at blocking access to pavements.
81
05/01/2021 18:15:30 0 0
bbc
Not sure a few mums chatting would make much difference given their kids are all mingling, so each parent is in either direct or indirect contact with 1000's.
75
05/01/2021 18:08:47 4 4
bbc
Perhaps the law that prevents you offering your neighbor to connect to your broadband can be temporarily removed, then we can be legally nice to one another. You can do it anyway ....
82
05/01/2021 18:15:30 7 0
bbc
What law. You can offer your broadband to anyone, the distance and willingness to do so are the problem
83
05/01/2021 18:17:24 1 1
bbc
?????????????? far too many politicians with their fingers in that political pie, sorry, that will not happen.
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05/01/2021 18:17:55 13 3
bbc
Simple. Temporary nationalisation of internet provision; all education networks to be free until schools reopen.

PS. Well done BBC. Fantastic roll out of education programming this time. It isn't an alternative to zoom lessons but should be an excellent safety net.
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05/01/2021 19:21:39 9 3
bbc
Only if you have a TV licence
270
06/01/2021 11:42:05 1 0
bbc
Temporary................becomes permanent: The long-term danger from all the Covid inspired Gov. edicts/laws.
7
05/01/2021 17:12:50 41 26
bbc
im sure these people find enough money to spend on sky dishes and streaming crap....if there are benefits for this it should be firmly clamped down to educaiton releated streaming. WHy should i fund their netflix
85
05/01/2021 18:18:10 4 2
bbc
Yawn
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05/01/2021 18:19:18 4 3
bbc
“Vodafone and other networks offer unlimited data deals at much lower costs”.

There you go. The whole article is nonsense.
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Jon
05/01/2021 18:00:25 6 2
bbc
I think my broadband provider has worked miracles.

I pay for a consumer (entertainment) level package, and they've essentially stepped up their game to support my entire family working from home and then watching in the evening for no extra fee.

The government talks of providers upping their game, but I say its the governments turn to up their game and back the fallout of their choices.
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05/01/2021 18:20:01 3 0
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Entertainment (streaming video) is the most demanding use of broadband. So a domestic package should be enough unless all the kids are watching different lessons at the same time
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05/01/2021 18:20:36 1 2
bbc
Winners & losers. Wish i owned an internet provider.
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05/01/2021 18:23:22 3 0
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If you have a pension fund you own a tiny bit of several....
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cba
05/01/2021 18:40:58 0 1
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What stopped you we all have the opportunity or so they say
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05/01/2021 18:15:21 32 1
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Heres an idea..........Instead of 2500 dodgy commercial rackets selling third rate "learning content" for a fortune.
We have a national system FREE for all learners created by teachers and subject experts!! If it we're free for all children the likes of Attenborough, Brian Cox etc. would contribute content for nothing!! People are always willing to contribute to a worthy cause!
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cba
05/01/2021 18:20:45 11 5
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Nice idea but usually these people want paying
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06/01/2021 08:47:33 0 0
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Get Marcus in on the act!!
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05/01/2021 18:22:07 6 6
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Just do what Jeremy Corbyn said, make the internet free to use. Openreach should be nationalised as it is just a cash cow to make money for private firms.

Sir Keir Windsock is useless at putting this across
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05/01/2021 18:25:49 7 7
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A Corbynite who hates the Labour leader for taking his twice-beaten hero's place?

Get over yourself..... or sit back & watch the Tories screw everything up for another 10 years
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cba
05/01/2021 18:38:34 0 1
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Would you want to work for openreach and not get paid.Nothing comes free some one has to pay the piper
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05/01/2021 18:22:30 5 3
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Most networks offer unlimited data usage. If you are using a mobile you just log in to the router and you can get free data.
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05/01/2021 18:26:29 8 2
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Rubbish Graham. Try being a single parent with two kids paying 'pay as you go' for internet connection to deliver education. You are living in a different world from many, many people.
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05/01/2021 18:22:39 6 11
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So sad for the kids,failed by the worst government ever
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05/01/2021 18:25:41 8 3
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worst government ever ??? Please tell us which government hasn't ever failed in its aims promises or guarantees of success ? Labour ? Conservative ? Coalition ? and what years was this achieved ?
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05/01/2021 17:52:43 3 9
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Government should nationalise telephone and Internet whilst we are in the war against covid.
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05/01/2021 18:22:47 4 1
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That got rejected as a policy in the last General Election

Even the most pessimistic about the pandemic cannot believe it will still be a factor by the time the state had taken over all the networks......

I am a bit left but I'd rather we subsidised poorer families' broadband than messed about with nationalisation
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05/01/2021 17:41:25 12 16
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Shouldn't broadband be free for all, since so much of our lives depend on a stable internet connection? The service should be provided through taxation.
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05/01/2021 18:23:11 2 0
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I assume you are a Marxist or something? Why should it be free? You want it you pay, you can't afford it, don't have it. Do you expect free food, free housing, free cars? Internet comes to those who go out and efff in earning it!
88
05/01/2021 18:20:36 1 2
bbc
Winners & losers. Wish i owned an internet provider.
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05/01/2021 18:23:22 3 0
bbc
If you have a pension fund you own a tiny bit of several....
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05/01/2021 18:08:47 4 4
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Perhaps the law that prevents you offering your neighbor to connect to your broadband can be temporarily removed, then we can be legally nice to one another. You can do it anyway ....
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cba
05/01/2021 18:23:28 1 1
bbc
Then you just get more free loaders and the people who can afford taking from the people that can,t
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05/01/2021 18:15:21 32 1
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Heres an idea..........Instead of 2500 dodgy commercial rackets selling third rate "learning content" for a fortune.
We have a national system FREE for all learners created by teachers and subject experts!! If it we're free for all children the likes of Attenborough, Brian Cox etc. would contribute content for nothing!! People are always willing to contribute to a worthy cause!
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05/01/2021 18:23:31 4 2
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Attenborough & Cox all good but what we actually need is Play School and Word Wizard. Don't worry the BBC are on it.
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05/01/2021 17:23:43 71 15
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Help kids learn on-line by:
Training all teachers to use ICT for learning!! --removed by Mr Gove/Nick Gibb 2010
Include the use of ICT in all areas of teh curriculum--removed by Mr Gove/Nick Gibb 2010
Have a national schools ICT infrastructure program--removed by Mr Gove/Nick Gibb 2010
Have world class e-learning research and development organisation (BECTA)--removed by Mr Gove/Nick Gibb 2010
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05/01/2021 18:24:43 11 26
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Thats the trouble with Liberals
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Bob
05/01/2021 18:25:09 0 5
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Legislation should also be introduced to make create a specific CRIMINAL offence by companies and their agents/employees who DISCRIMINATE against a youngster without exam qualifications they would normally have got in 2020/2021 or until such time that exams are formally re-introduced.
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cba
05/01/2021 18:35:15 2 1
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Unfortunately no one could predict if the youngster would have passed the exams or not that is what the exams are for to prove the child has reached the correct level of education and not just attended the classes.
You cannot blame a prospective employer for needing to be sure
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05/01/2021 17:45:51 14 5
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Why should it be free, most families run PlayStation for da kids now
Who pays?
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05/01/2021 18:25:19 0 1
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Nobody should pay. It's currently ran as a racket by companies in a fake competitive environment. Tax payers could just pick up a small maintenance bill.