Government offers firms new grants to survive lockdown
06/01/2021 | news | business | 2,322
Business groups welcomed the new help as a good start but said more aid and a clear plan would be needed.
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05/01/2021 11:27:30 40 33
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Well this latest lockdown is a bit emperor's new clothes, innit ? Whether you call it lockdown or tiers, you still can't do flap all. Still, at least it gives the impression to gullible numpties that Blobis Johnson is in control of events.
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05/01/2021 11:50:25 21 5
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I think it is highly unlikely any PM who respects democracy would be in control of events.

The people have proven that nothing short of a heavy-handed enforcement approach will work.
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05/01/2021 11:27:56 122 84
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A government of constant failures for businesses.

Maggie would be U-turning in her grave!

Boris, I have saved Christmas, alas Christmas is cancelled.
Schools are safe, no they are not
Algorithm is robust, no it isn’t
No free school meals, oh alright then
Laptops for children, no laptops for you
We should mass test, no let’s stop
World beating App, no it’s not
Work from home, no stay at home
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05/01/2021 11:30:13 97 80
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World beating failure from Boris and co
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05/01/2021 11:40:07 21 17
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Absolutely wrong my friend. UK is performing better against this virus than most other countries.

The big difference in UK though is the existence of the professional moaning classes (disgruntled lefties and remainers in many cases) and the armchair experts, all empowered by social meedja.
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05/01/2021 12:06:38 4 5
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We suffer the consequences of electing as PM a former journalist who has been sacked at least once for what once was considered the moral crime of lying. Boris would struggle to organise a p*ss-up in a brewery. A 2:1 degree in classics, ancient literature & classical philosophy was wonderful training on how to formulate clever sound bites, but useless in preparing him to actually run the country.
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05/01/2021 12:30:51 1 1
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Let her spin.
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05/01/2021 13:16:49 2 2
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The 'App' is world beating. A world beating failure.
05/01/2021 14:54:33 2 0
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Would you rather he let people die you idiot
05/01/2021 16:52:50 2 0
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No matter who was in government the people in the opposing parties will say they could do better. UTTER RUBBISH
While the measures are welcomed. Let's never forget, they are necessary because the government has failed to get the virus under control. It is not good news.
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05/01/2021 11:30:31 62 75
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Useless Tories.
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05/01/2021 11:32:24 38 11
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The government cannot "get the virus under control".

It is the population that spread it - if we had all followed the guidance 100%, using the hands, face, space approach we would have it under control like Taiwan and South Korea. But no, us Brits know better and go on flights, crowded beaches, etc. then blame the government.

Boris is a fool, but the general public spread the virus.
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05/01/2021 11:39:01 26 8
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People need to stop blaming the govt and rule-breakers for the virus getting out of control. It's a virus, for heaven's sake. Unless we LITERALLY avoid anyone ever coming into close contact with anyone else (impossible) it was always going avoid being 'controlled'
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05/01/2021 11:41:23 22 5
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It is not the Government who have failed to get the virus under control. It is people who are not following (very) simple rules who have failed to get the virus under control!
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05/01/2021 11:43:54 22 4
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They don't control the virus,its always been up to Joe Public but Joe Public wants to go to the beach,fly abroad,mix households,not wear face coverings on public transport etc. The vast majority of people who have obeyed the rules and applied common sense are continuing to pay for the minority.
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05/01/2021 11:41:21 14 5
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Errrrr - like every other country in Europe. Do check the stats - you may learn something.
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05/01/2021 11:50:24 2 3
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The Gov are only half to blame. The idiotic masses are as much to blame too. Boris could have said and done everything perfectly but without the compliance from the citizens it's always going to fail. And to have policed it properly would have cost way more than the fallout we are going through now
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05/01/2021 11:53:04 6 2
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However incapable the government, it's the population that spreads the virus.
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05/01/2021 11:58:03 3 1
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I disagree.
The reason why the virus isn’t under control is....

...there are too many numpties and deniers that have broken the rules, especially in London & South East, where Testing was deliberately sparse for so long to hide the issue.
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05/01/2021 11:55:14 4 0
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germany belguim italy and most of the rest of the world have not got it under control
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05/01/2021 12:03:03 2 2
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Except they've done better than many EU countries, despite having a far more mobile population, with higher population density & the UK being a global passenger hub.
Yes, mistakes were made, then rectified, which is as expected in a highly volatile situation.
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05/01/2021 13:17:47 0 0
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Pity you're not managing this crisis.
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05/01/2021 13:30:07 0 0
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Few governments in the democratic world have got the virus under control.
hoo
05/01/2021 19:01:33 0 0
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Selfish rule breakers, are the reason for all the measures of the 4 nations not working &spreading the virus No masks or social distancing, drinkers harder rules were coming so stood shoulder to shoulder queuing to get a drink! IF they had joined the rest of us and did as we were asked, we would be in a better place. Not much rightly open, so blame yourselves.
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05/01/2021 11:28:33 18 15
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Thank you Rishi
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05/01/2021 11:30:46 17 18
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For what ? Being a hedge fund billionaire ?
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05/01/2021 11:28:41 20 17
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“Businesses in retail, hospitality and leisure will receive new grants to help them keep afloat until spring”

What about all the other businesses that, whilst still open and able to operate, have lost half their workforce because they have to perform childcare duties with the schools shut.

Life in public-sector land will go on regardless, whilst businesses subject to real world pressures fold.
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05/01/2021 11:31:58 17 18
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Jealous of public sector workers, much ? Many are key workers. Don't be so ungrateful.
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05/01/2021 11:38:44 10 5
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Public sector land ? You mean those that have worked throughout all this such as NHS,Police , HMRC, DWP, Fire Service, Armed forces etc. Yes its been peachy for them with no pressure at all !
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05/01/2021 11:29:01 49 15
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Huge amount of help has gone in over this past year- thanks for that!

Some groups have missed out- help them please Mr Sunak.
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05/01/2021 11:31:01 25 47
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Yes - live music venues need help. NOW.
It’s our tax money helping us ffs wake up. Removed
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Sir
05/01/2021 11:29:15 13 17
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Can those of us struggling on Universal credit get some help too please?
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05/01/2021 11:29:59 22 9
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You're getting help already. The Universal Credit!
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05/01/2021 11:29:20 8 6
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Just wait until automation becomes mainstream. These lockdowns are still not preventing 20 million from working

Then the UK.Gov will need to look at Universal Basic Income
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05/01/2021 11:29:20 11 17
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Bojo is looking a bit tired from announcing all these U-turns.

It's time to give Rishi a chance.
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05/01/2021 11:43:14 1 3
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Boris gone after council elections in may. Most no longer have much faith in what he says. Sunak very quiet for weeks hoping no mud sticks to him.
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05/01/2021 11:29:27 18 8
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lucky the 4 nations are in a union or it could have been a financial disaster for many workers
hoo
05/01/2021 19:35:53 0 0
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nations like Scotland, whose 1st minster doesn't even listen to Press briefings from No 10. PM extended the furlough system in UK into 2021 and Lady Fish had to say on TV that she would have to find out if it covered Scotland as well!
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05/01/2021 11:29:40 39 20
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Need more money? Sure here’s loads! Money here, money there, have it all! Not going to bite us on the backside ever is it.....wait, is it?
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05/01/2021 11:53:05 15 7
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labour chancellor said tories not spending enough on bbc news
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05/01/2021 11:29:52 17 14
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ROLL UP ROLL UP

FREE MONEY

LOADS OF MONEY

VERY FEW QUESTIONS ASKED

I'M BORROWING AND PRINTING TONS OF IT

ENJOY!!

RISHI SUNAK
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05/01/2021 11:43:58 5 3
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Wow, and with your loony left mantra how often have you advocated the same for less critical situations?
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05/01/2021 11:52:09 2 2
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bbc news , labour said sunak not spending enough, its a funny old world
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05/01/2021 11:29:52 282 38
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Probably the right thing to do, but the Government must continually remember that this is Tax Payers' money, not theirs.
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05/01/2021 11:35:42 92 81
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Actually its money from the BoE which I doubt we will ever pay back, even the interest on the debt is recycled, we (HMRC) pays it to the BoE who then gives it back to HMRC. Its basically free money, at any other time the markets would have sent our debt through the floor and we could have ended up with hyper inflation, think Germany pre WWII
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05/01/2021 11:46:25 10 11
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That hasn't worried them to date - PPE, HS2
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05/01/2021 11:49:29 17 16
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luckily labour arent in ,on bbc news shadow chancellor refused to say what budget labours would be as tories werent helping people out enough, i feel there could be one of those notes again ,sorry all the moneys gone
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05/01/2021 11:50:18 4 15
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Thankfully this is far more likely to be the case than under a socialist regime.
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05/01/2021 12:21:23 1 2
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Nobody thinks the Govt is a separate business entity with it's own money to spend.

Everyone already knows the Govt manages tax revenues and spends them.

You could equally argue the Govt should remember to breathe air, and not rocks.
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05/01/2021 12:30:12 0 0
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It's the right thing to do as many companies struggling, it will help genuine companys keep employees.
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05/01/2021 12:40:23 1 2
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Yeah, 'Tax Payer's money' is a myth. Once a tax is paid - it belongs to the tax collector.
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05/01/2021 12:58:34 0 0
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And you must remember that when you voted, you voted to give the government the power to spend your money. It's the way your democracy works just in case you forgot.
05/01/2021 13:57:20 1 0
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Since 2008 most Government borrowing has been through its bank, the BoE, buying Government corporate bonds:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/08/the-verdict-on-10-years-of-quantitative-easing

The BoE is part of Government:

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/knowledgebank/who-owns-the-bank-of-england

The BoE has conjured the money it has used to buy Government bonds out of thin air.
05/01/2021 13:58:13 2 0
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The BoE has also been, since the 2008 crash, buying back Government bonds from financial institutions, who have in turn bought more Government bonds; and it's been going in that circular motion ever since.

This is all funded by the money conjured out of thin air; it has redirected lots more wealth to the rich, whilst we have been sold the lie we need to repay it through austerity & wage freezes.
05/01/2021 13:58:52 1 0
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When interest rates are extremely low or, as they are currently, at a negative rate, institutions are paying the Government to look after their money.

It's a game of smoke & mirrors proving that the economy has always been contrived & manipulated.

There is no need to raise our taxes, depress our wages or impose austerity on us. Will YOU fall for it again?
05/01/2021 14:35:59 0 0
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too right
05/01/2021 14:38:40 1 0
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I would prefer they give it to genuine small businesses than mates of the government and their get rich quick PPE grifts
05/01/2021 14:50:57 0 0
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Would you rather they all go bump and lay people off then
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05/01/2021 11:29:55 8 15
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Stop throwing money at failing businesses in the old economy. Times have changed, adapt or die.
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05/01/2021 11:36:15 3 3
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Which was the mantra of Mrs Thatcher in the early 1980s to stop propping up industry. However, we are still living with the social consequences. There is more rapid change upon us than many thought possible. If we are to adapt we need leadership and support from Government.
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05/01/2021 11:36:29 5 1
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Try getting your haircut online!
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05/01/2021 11:40:12 1 1
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Like; to Covid-19?
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Sir
05/01/2021 11:29:15 13 17
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Can those of us struggling on Universal credit get some help too please?
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05/01/2021 11:29:59 22 9
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You're getting help already. The Universal Credit!
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Sir
05/01/2021 11:34:54 9 5
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That barely covers rent, energy bills and council tax - Let alone food. Try it, then criticise.
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05/01/2021 11:39:21 6 8
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Unfortunately the universal credit is not paying for their lavish lifestyles, some only have an Iphone 11, PS4 and a 55" UHD tv, thinking of you all in these desperate times.
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05/01/2021 11:30:01 6 7
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Interesting how talk of redundancies and economic damage is no longer the talk of the town. Perhaps people are realising that we cannot go on into another year like this, and responsibility has to start to kick in.
Stay safe.
05/01/2021 15:00:34 0 0
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Hang on: it's become more relevant and discussed then ever.
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05/01/2021 11:27:56 122 84
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A government of constant failures for businesses.

Maggie would be U-turning in her grave!

Boris, I have saved Christmas, alas Christmas is cancelled.
Schools are safe, no they are not
Algorithm is robust, no it isn’t
No free school meals, oh alright then
Laptops for children, no laptops for you
We should mass test, no let’s stop
World beating App, no it’s not
Work from home, no stay at home
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05/01/2021 11:30:13 97 80
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World beating failure from Boris and co
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05/01/2021 13:29:13 1 1
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So you think the situation is loads better in other countries?
05/01/2021 16:54:04 1 0
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In your Opinion. Yes you are entitled to one. Thank your lucky stars you live in this GREAT BRITAIN
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05/01/2021 11:30:14 16 13
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The current cabinet make Chris Grayling look like a Greek shipping magnate!
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IK
05/01/2021 11:34:55 7 1
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Never, ever, say anything like that out loud. Like a car ferry, he will eventually come back....
While the measures are welcomed. Let's never forget, they are necessary because the government has failed to get the virus under control. It is not good news.
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05/01/2021 11:30:31 62 75
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Useless Tories.
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05/01/2021 11:51:54 7 3
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The virus is spread from person to person - it’s not HMG who spread it but people who don’t follow HMG’s advice
More like selfish public. Idiot Removed
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05/01/2021 13:03:19 0 0
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Agree but what does it take to convince people. UK brainwashed.
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05/01/2021 13:17:59 1 0
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Useless comment.
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05/01/2021 13:31:14 0 0
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Yes, we should have voted for Corbyn. He would have done a much better job, especially when assisted by Diane Abbott.
05/01/2021 18:58:26 0 0
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Speaking of useless this is a reminder
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05/01/2021 11:30:42 9 21
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Lice spread rampantly among monkeys. Their messy ginger-haired leader told them let it spread to everyone so they could acquire “herd immunity” and stop feeling itchy. Other monkeys cheered “hohohoho!” beating their hairy chests. But later on their leader was rushed to the ICU after catching lice. He then introduced a lockdown with U-turn bananas to “eat out help out” and ended up on lockdown 3.
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05/01/2021 11:29:34 123 81
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Sort out vaccinations please.

Johnson - you've had 9 months to put the infrastructure in place, ahead of vaccine being found.

No excuses please.
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05/01/2021 11:33:59 64 66
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Boris is a do it later type of politician.
Or is it, who asks "Who should be doing this job, it it me?"
Or is it, "I should have done something by now, shouldn't I?"
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05/01/2021 11:42:23 19 11
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So they knew exactly what was needed, yeah right and the next lotto numbers are?

I vaccine needs -70C others a normal fridge. So if they order 1000s of -70C freezers you no doubt would have been the first to bleat about waste of money!
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05/01/2021 11:43:07 24 10
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Well, Palatable me ole son, UK has vaccinated more people already than the rest of Europe combined, yet you are still moaning.
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Bob
05/01/2021 11:51:21 13 2
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More vaccinations than any other country except the USA.
More vaccinations per capita than any other nation except Israel.
More destinations than any other country.

Nice to see it didn't take long for fake news trash to return as soon as another lockdown was called.
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05/01/2021 11:52:17 3 6
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That would require planning
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05/01/2021 11:54:05 5 3
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UK has already vaccinated more people than the whole EU.

Seems to me you're just another Boris hater.
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MOT
05/01/2021 12:14:20 3 0
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It’s in place, just need to make the stuff. Mr negative
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05/01/2021 12:20:50 3 1
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The UK is leading the world in vaccination rollout but because of your political persuasions you can't resist a snipe..
Pathetic
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05/01/2021 12:40:57 4 0
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Bad happens - Boris to blame. Good happens - NHS managers get gongs.
05/01/2021 13:47:50 4 0
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How easy do you think 'sorting out vaccinations' is? The UK has issued more vaccinations than the whole of the EU put together. If you ask me we're doing pretty damn well, only behind Israel (a technological powerhouse) and Bahrain (a super-rich oil state) in the world.
05/01/2021 15:04:07 1 0
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Who are you Mr 20/20? I'd like to know where you get your forecating tools you could've made a fortune and saved us a lot of grief
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05/01/2021 11:28:33 18 15
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Thank you Rishi
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05/01/2021 11:30:46 17 18
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For what ? Being a hedge fund billionaire ?
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05/01/2021 11:33:46 5 5
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Ha ha I'm pretty sure if he was a billionaire he wouldn't be doing this thankless job.
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05/01/2021 11:46:51 2 1
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Jealous much??
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05/01/2021 11:29:01 49 15
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Huge amount of help has gone in over this past year- thanks for that!

Some groups have missed out- help them please Mr Sunak.
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05/01/2021 11:31:01 25 47
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Yes - live music venues need help. NOW.
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05/01/2021 12:37:12 4 5
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Why would 23 people downvote this?

Live music is good for us all, good for the economy, good for the supply chain, and a cultural asset that promotes tourism.
05/01/2021 14:14:50 5 0
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Ask the mega millionaire superstars. They have gained massively from the industry.
05/01/2021 15:35:46 2 0
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Why ?
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05/01/2021 11:31:32 17 10
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Many businesses in the hospitality sector will not survive however this will open doors for others IF the vaccines work? This will unfortunately be at least a year into the future.
How many 'advisors' do the BBC actually employ? Every day a new one pops up I have never heard of previously!
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05/01/2021 11:44:10 1 4
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it seems a lot of junior hugh pyms in the pipe line
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Tee
05/01/2021 11:31:36 6 8
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Hospitality sector offered extra help, but how about travel sector that cant afford to up employee wages to 100% after furlough
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05/01/2021 11:34:52 3 2
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Sorry, while people must be supported, 80% is sufficient. I would raise it to 100% though (paid all by us taxpayers) for those on furlough who use their time to support those who self-isolate, or police lockdown rules, or who help in some other way.
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05/01/2021 11:28:41 20 17
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“Businesses in retail, hospitality and leisure will receive new grants to help them keep afloat until spring”

What about all the other businesses that, whilst still open and able to operate, have lost half their workforce because they have to perform childcare duties with the schools shut.

Life in public-sector land will go on regardless, whilst businesses subject to real world pressures fold.
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05/01/2021 11:31:58 17 18
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Jealous of public sector workers, much ? Many are key workers. Don't be so ungrateful.
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05/01/2021 11:36:22 8 9
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No - not jealous at all.

Just pointing out that most public sector workers have no idea where money comes from.

Wealth has to be generated via free-enterprise. When that dries up, tax revenue dries up, when tax revenue dries up we are well and truly in the........
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DJG
05/01/2021 11:39:11 8 5
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We need to be grateful to everyone who works and pays taxes to make the system work. We're degenerating into a society where only 'key workers' are given any appreciation. Now only their kids are schooled, and they want priority treatment for everything from shopping to medical treatments. It's not viable.
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05/01/2021 11:46:18 2 4
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Many are not key workers! And some of the basic services have stopped as they are not considered to be "key workers"
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05/01/2021 11:32:04 151 51
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£22 billion and counting wasted on Track & Trace for their chums. When are they going to be held to account?
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05/01/2021 11:40:22 64 110
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Do you think you could have done better, I bet you would have made a worse mess.
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05/01/2021 11:53:04 18 6
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They will never be held to account as the covid act allows them to do whatever they want without any comeback
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05/01/2021 13:01:03 3 0
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Errr never?
05/01/2021 13:46:42 4 4
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Your puerile comment is misleading, and simply not true.

The £22b represents the total cost of the TEST and trace system, money well spent as it has given the UK the highest testing capacity in Europe.

You are probably thinking about the failed track and trace app, however the cost of that was a much lower £35m. Incidentally, if the app had worked, it would have been worth every penny.
05/01/2021 14:53:30 0 3
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You sound pathetic mate
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05/01/2021 11:32:08 51 15
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If we can't get together and do whatever is needed to stop the spread of this killer virus then we're not a society.
Same if we can't get together to support those who suffer a disproportionate share of the cost.
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05/01/2021 11:49:24 58 6
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Ah society, I remember that fondly, as I do my Raleigh Chopper and jumpers for goalposts. It will take a lot to recover and rebuild society as two generations have been brought up on the ideology behind these famous words; "there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families".
05/01/2021 13:38:37 4 1
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At the risk of sounding old before my time, this country is unrecognizable due to selfishness, snowflakes and rule breakers.
Just 7 months ago, we were largely united by Captain Sir Tom Moore. Now, we are divided as ever.
Shame.
05/01/2021 19:12:01 0 0
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Soon we'll "all be in this together" again .
Just like in 2010 !
While the measures are welcomed. Let's never forget, they are necessary because the government has failed to get the virus under control. It is not good news.
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05/01/2021 11:32:24 38 11
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The government cannot "get the virus under control".

It is the population that spread it - if we had all followed the guidance 100%, using the hands, face, space approach we would have it under control like Taiwan and South Korea. But no, us Brits know better and go on flights, crowded beaches, etc. then blame the government.

Boris is a fool, but the general public spread the virus.
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05/01/2021 11:37:07 15 5
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In South Korea and Taiwan the population were donning N95 grade masks since February.
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05/01/2021 11:38:35 8 17
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Taiwan & South Korea had clear and consise information AND functioning track & trace systems. We are still waiting for our £12 Billion plus one to work.

And most academics have praised the British public for following the rules!
On Sunday Boris ordered children back to school on Monday. That was his guidance. Millions of children mixed with others from many households, and then returned home to mix with adults. That one day will have caused thousands of new infections. So who do you blame?
Children for behaving like children?
Parents for following the guidance?
Boris for giving the (wrong) guidance?
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05/01/2021 12:10:23 1 4
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It's all the governments fault, no one else.
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05/01/2021 11:32:44 32 18
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Keep helping the same people, keep ignoring the rest. Useless ??
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05/01/2021 11:32:56 204 23
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My specialist small business that only has a handful of customers per day has to close, yet the takeaways remain open and are packed out.
So disheartening!
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05/01/2021 11:42:16 125 6
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Feel for you. My business is now fully closed
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05/01/2021 11:44:44 8 36
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Errr - no they aren’t open. Do check the facts petal. Deliveries only.
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05/01/2021 11:48:19 18 6
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That is sad, but specialist businesses are not classed as essential, whereas takeaways are. It is sadly a sign of the times when people rely so much on takeaways; when we all have access to much cheaper food in supermarkets and free recipes on the internet but the majority don't seem to be able to cook
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Bob
05/01/2021 11:48:25 8 4
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Yes they should have had a 'you can keep your shop/cafe/office/whatever open so long as you only have 2 people in your premise a day' rule. It would have been totally enforceable too. Not.
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05/01/2021 11:54:58 17 0
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Sorry to hear that. I had to close my business last year due to restrictions. And suspect I will have to sell my house this year unless I can find better paid work. I'm currently labouring for a friend. Mainly to try and keep myself sane. He has been doing it as a favour but can't see him keeping me on for this lockdown and I wouldn't blame him.
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05/01/2021 11:52:44 15 3
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Takeaways being packed out is down to ignorance & stupidity of the customers, not down to the government.
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05/01/2021 12:43:31 12 0
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I just can't get me head around the fact that supermarkets open with hundreds milling around clothes stands, and yet the little independent, that can really carefully manage one in the shop at a time, must close. Meanwhile our food service manufacturing business is on its knees, nothing for us.
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05/01/2021 12:46:10 2 0
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start selling milk and bread and you can stay open
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05/01/2021 13:11:22 3 1
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How can a takeaway be 'packed out'?
871
05/01/2021 13:18:31 0 3
bbc
Specialist is the key word there, even in a strong economy you run the risk of bankruptcy when your "specialist" items are not wanted anymore, diversify and adapt.
880
05/01/2021 13:19:36 5 0
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My business is open, but trade is about 80% down on where it would normally be. We're getting some help from the furlough scheme, but that's about it. On it's own it's no where near enough. All we qualify for is a £2,250 discretionary grant from the local council. But for a business that normally turns over nearly £1.5m, that's not going to go very far!

All very worrying.
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JB
05/01/2021 13:27:30 2 6
bbc
They dare not upset the asian community .. If they do there will be a civil war.
05/01/2021 13:59:49 0 3
bbc
Better start doing takeaway then
05/01/2021 14:23:45 2 0
bbc
My Business of 15 years also has fallen through the gaps, I today have had to make that mental leap that my livelihood is no more.
05/01/2021 15:55:14 1 2
bbc
Market Forces. Keep voting Tory.
Jen
05/01/2021 16:55:36 1 0
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Couldn't agree more but I suspect the difficulty lies in where and how to draw the line.
05/01/2021 19:43:50 4 0
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I understand you. The government and well fead Borris pinned obesity as a key factor yet the essential retailer Mcdonalds was one of the first to reopen and remain open through recent measures. During the 1st actual lockdown when they closed the streets were spotless saving the tax payer a good sum, streets within days were strewn with litter that the tax payer foots the cleaning bill.
05/01/2021 21:45:18 1 0
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I'm with you there I work for a diy chain selling so called essential items so not much changes for me, but on the way to work all the pound shops are open so I don't know why most other shops have to close if they can stay open
32
05/01/2021 11:32:57 54 10
bbc
That's all very nice,, however,, I get a big fat zero help
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Ian
05/01/2021 12:14:48 23 1
bbc
Yeah, join the club. Absolutely zilch her too.
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Ann
05/01/2021 11:33:28 11 9
bbc
Thanks Rishi.
34
05/01/2021 11:33:30 138 33
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Thank you Mr Sunak. Let's hope the Scottish Government pass the funds on this time. Independent non essential businesses which were fine before Covid are on their knees.
193
05/01/2021 11:50:47 125 31
bbc
Completely agree - how queen Nicola and her followers are getting away without accounting for the funding they have received is beyond me.
196
05/01/2021 11:51:15 13 46
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Utter rubbish about Scotland not passing on all money from the inadequate allocation from Westminster - just return all of the money raised in Scotland and decent share of the UK borrowings. Nicola are her excellent Government are doing very well despite chaotic handling of pandemic and Brexit by Bojo and most of his cronies who are wasting billions of the taxes we pay.
273
05/01/2021 12:00:06 22 6
bbc
There is an alternative, parliament could vote to remove devolved govt to Scotland that should help business and wind up Nicola no end..
361
05/01/2021 12:10:20 3 8
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Examples to back up your rantings please .
I could give you a few , but you are just posting for the sake of being small minded and bitter.
It's not a good look mate !
553
05/01/2021 12:37:39 13 13
bbc
As opposed to lining Tory donors pockets with literally billions of £ for nonexistent PPE
Worst prime minister and most corrupt government in history.
565
05/01/2021 12:39:59 2 6
bbc
Classic English on this board XD
802
05/01/2021 13:07:52 12 2
bbc
Completely agree. we desperately need an opposition and media that will challenge the half truths and mis-information up here. She hides behind an emotional front never engaging with facts "the facts are at odds with your narrative" more of this required please Andrew Marr
972
05/01/2021 13:28:42 0 6
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If your business is run in a way you don't have a cash reserve for a year in dark times . You shouldn't be in business , stop scoffing all the profits and run it properly.
977
05/01/2021 13:29:57 7 2
bbc
They pass on as little as they can, hold the rest back and announce what "freebies" they will give away around the election coming up? There core supporters are not business or people employed in private sector. Everything else is blamed on Westminster and if you disagree with them you are a Tory?
Removed
xlr
05/01/2021 13:57:47 0 0
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You realise that she'd be in jail if she hadn't passed the funds on?

Another pants-on-head conspiracy theory.
05/01/2021 15:07:05 0 0
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WM needs to give the funding directly to those who need it, the SNP are siphoning the money off for their own. Look at Tommy Sheppard's business he was given full financial help, hundreds more didn't. But SNP do not care about anyone else, only their own pockets. But happy to take our taxes and the WM money.
You
05/01/2021 16:01:04 0 0
bbc
completely fed up with devolution confusion. Seems like BBC reports everything to do with England as national news
05/01/2021 16:27:23 0 0
bbc
they won't. they don't understand business
22
05/01/2021 11:30:46 17 18
bbc
For what ? Being a hedge fund billionaire ?
35
05/01/2021 11:33:46 5 5
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Ha ha I'm pretty sure if he was a billionaire he wouldn't be doing this thankless job.
160
05/01/2021 11:44:40 2 3
bbc
He was just a millionaire, but then he married a billionaire
21
05/01/2021 11:29:34 123 81
bbc
Sort out vaccinations please.

Johnson - you've had 9 months to put the infrastructure in place, ahead of vaccine being found.

No excuses please.
36
05/01/2021 11:33:59 64 66
bbc
Boris is a do it later type of politician.
Or is it, who asks "Who should be doing this job, it it me?"
Or is it, "I should have done something by now, shouldn't I?"
158
05/01/2021 11:43:55 16 8
bbc
See answer above. Must be frustrating when the facts don’t align with your narrative.
913
05/01/2021 13:22:31 2 0
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Would you have preferred Corbyn?
37
05/01/2021 11:34:05 8 5
bbc
We need to get vaccination out there fast. Perhaps as we're going back to lockdown we should drop the priority list & do a street-by-street sweep across the entire country (side to side or top to bottom, whatever) and just catch everyone who has sufficient wit to accept the jab that way.
66
05/01/2021 11:38:55 6 4
bbc
You do know that if they started in the London then they would be blamed for being London centric, or the SE then Southern centric, or up North then they would be blamed for bribing them for votes.

No win situation
84
05/01/2021 11:36:27 1 1
bbc
Nowhere near enough vaccine available.
38
05/01/2021 11:34:08 35 13
bbc
This virus has been absolutely fantastic . .... ... .. for Dido harding
48
05/01/2021 11:35:09 18 5
bbc
Where's Dido?
39
05/01/2021 11:34:25 65 8
bbc
Why oh why is this just retail and hospitality? Loads of businesses out there who probably wont qualify but yet their turnover has dropped massively.
05/01/2021 14:54:07 2 17
bbc
They get support already
05/01/2021 17:03:13 2 0
bbc
Exactly we are going broke essentially we have had a year of not earning. I am going broke
40
05/01/2021 11:34:30 221 38
bbc
It's all very well saying we must do whatever it takes to minimise Covid deaths, whatever the cost.

But the cost is huge.

The austerity that will come to pay for all this is going to make 2010 look like a walk in the park.
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djf
05/01/2021 11:51:32 50 8
bbc
As long as its with only one other person from a different household and a two meter distance obsrrved, then it will be a Covid rules compliant walk in the park.
276
05/01/2021 12:00:12 12 10
bbc
No it will make fighting Hitler look like a night out - this is craziness beyond anything known to man.
301
05/01/2021 12:02:47 9 21
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Brexit has already been determined to be more damaging to our economy than our covid response, so.... why weren't you all calling for it to be scrapped
407
05/01/2021 12:17:46 9 9
bbc
Have we not put austerity as an idea to bed yet? Its a dangerous idea that has failed on its own terms.

We have a climate catastrophe on the horizon, what we really need is investment.
410
05/01/2021 12:05:35 3 8
bbc
Indebtedness is irrelevant when you are dead.
445
05/01/2021 12:22:37 26 5
bbc
The bottom line is that we will extend the lives of a relatively small number (in the context of the overall population) of mainly elderly people with pre existing conditions at an enormous cost and limited life expectancy, which their grandchildren will be paying for for the rest of their lives.
Unpopular comment no doubt, but sadly true.
477
05/01/2021 12:27:38 8 4
bbc
Absolutely, how much is your own life worth if you had to pay to keep it going from your own pocket? I know I would not waste a fraction of the costs daily spent to 'save lives' of my money, for my life. Wider considerations, on a personal level of handing money, life's point, value, to the next generation rather than live a few years more. The same attitude is needed on a national behaviour.
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DC
05/01/2021 12:19:03 9 2
bbc
What price a life? My life? Your Life? The life of your family members? At what point is the cost of saving a life too huge?
Covid Deaths are in the most part, avoidable deaths.
Not to mention the many other deaths from other conditions that are not receiving timely treatment due to the large number of covid cases.
841
05/01/2021 13:13:54 2 0
bbc
and that was the point back in 2010. It made me laugh when so many called that austerity - even back then I was saying we hadn't anything like austerity....and even now we are only just about to find out.
887
05/01/2021 13:20:40 1 1
bbc
AGREE AND THE POOREST IN SOCIETY WILL PAY THE MOST LIKE ALWAYS.

WHICH THE RICH/WEATHLY SWAN AROUND AVOIDING TAXES
End the pension triple lock and increase taxes for the over 50s. Lockdowns are for their benefit so its only fair those groups shoulder the biggest burden.

Oh and a massive increase on taxes paid by the wealthy is also a must
Tom
05/01/2021 13:53:51 1 1
bbc
The austerity didn't work?? Even the Tories admitted this?!
05/01/2021 14:28:57 2 3
bbc
2010...and beyond was bad because the tories punished the poor and slashed public spending to let their corporate, banking friends fill their boots...may i suggest not voting tory??
05/01/2021 14:56:48 0 1
bbc
So what is your answer?
05/01/2021 15:00:34 0 0
bbc
So what value would you put on a life, how much is your granny worth? Fortunately this is not America where they do calculations like that.
05/01/2021 15:44:07 0 0
bbc
Not sure it will be the same, I think the recovery will be very like the response to Covid. If you are in a "favoured" group you will get help and be shielded from paying back the costs or the inevitable service cuts beyond those that genuinely affect everyone. Although it will be brutal for those that don't quite fit in to society's norms.
05/01/2021 15:52:43 0 0
bbc
When You are going through Hell keep going.
05/01/2021 19:00:32 0 0
bbc
It doesn't have to be.
Be wary of the usual fatuous excuses to slash public expenditure.
05/01/2021 19:36:43 1 0
bbc
How about not buying a new submarine or 2, which is more important? Same price.
41
05/01/2021 11:34:35 32 21
bbc
So primary schools were open for the grand total of 1 day and he says this was ok. Does this clown have any idea of the chaos he is causing? EVERYONE saw this coming from a mile away apart from the PM and his inept cronies. Williamson is a laughing stock. Hancock has failed to prepare for the vaccine rollout. Patel is conspicuous only in her absence. The list goes on but my patience is finished.
72
05/01/2021 11:39:46 5 9
bbc
and the relevance to business grants is ....?
74
05/01/2021 11:39:48 1 4
bbc
So, your patience is finished, so you're going to do what exactly?
Vote for someone other than the Tories like you always have, well that'll show them.
25
Tee
05/01/2021 11:31:36 6 8
bbc
Hospitality sector offered extra help, but how about travel sector that cant afford to up employee wages to 100% after furlough
42
05/01/2021 11:34:52 3 2
bbc
Sorry, while people must be supported, 80% is sufficient. I would raise it to 100% though (paid all by us taxpayers) for those on furlough who use their time to support those who self-isolate, or police lockdown rules, or who help in some other way.
137
05/01/2021 11:44:59 1 1
bbc
so anyone unfortunate enough to be furloughed should "police lockdown rules"?
haven't thought that through have you
149
05/01/2021 11:45:32 0 2
bbc
That would suggest that plans to do that already existed like a civil defence with pay)but this gov ignored all warnings about an imminent pandemic and also ignored warnings after it was played out scenario and major shortfall was identified. Negligence and underfunding.
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Tee
05/01/2021 12:01:46 1 1
bbc
My 80% leaves me nothing once rent council tax and utilities paid. Luckily i am in a relationship where my other half can provide money for food to survive really...
15
05/01/2021 11:29:59 22 9
bbc
You're getting help already. The Universal Credit!
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Sir
05/01/2021 11:34:54 9 5
bbc
That barely covers rent, energy bills and council tax - Let alone food. Try it, then criticise.
282
05/01/2021 12:01:01 2 2
bbc
Billions have been given away in fraudulent bounce back loans, crony PPE outsourcing contracts, the list is long. yet people like "The Truth" resent you the few quid your are chucked in a time of need. Ignore them they are mean fools.
18
05/01/2021 11:30:14 16 13
bbc
The current cabinet make Chris Grayling look like a Greek shipping magnate!
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IK
05/01/2021 11:34:55 7 1
bbc
Never, ever, say anything like that out loud. Like a car ferry, he will eventually come back....
45
05/01/2021 11:34:56 4 5
bbc
Good stuff. Time to knuckle down and dig deep.
46
05/01/2021 11:34:58 108 38
bbc
I don't think we can keep giving people 'free' money.

We need to do what the UK is best at: innovate and focus on engineering things for 2021 and beyond.

We have a monster trade DEFICIT with the EU.

Time to look at what we import from the EU and start making it ourselves.
322
05/01/2021 12:04:31 46 3
bbc
I agree with you that we should be more self sufficient but I don't know where you get the idea that it's free money being handed out. The taxpayer will foot the bill sooner or later.

If we are to be more self sufficient we need small businesses to survive. Leisure and Tourism is a good earner; if the gov't want to close it, it's only right they offer support.
345
05/01/2021 12:07:26 7 3
bbc
If people really gave a monkeys about deficits they would not have voted for Brexit. Tax payers moneys may as well fall from the sky. Brexiters don't give a tozz
352
05/01/2021 12:08:20 5 0
bbc
Particularly the importing of certain types of food .Lincolnshire, Norfolk , Suffolk and Essex are very close geographically to Holland from who we seem to buying a lot of vedge eg tomatoes. No great climate difference.
I realise that these countys already supply a lot of agricultural products but some government stimulus to make us at least a little more self sufficient
wouldn't go amiss.
812
05/01/2021 13:09:00 1 1
bbc
What like food you mean? or BMW's, or AEG ovens, Bosch tools, Siemens electronics, Pharmaceuticals, Oil, Medical equipment, Furniture. Brits are too lazy to even pick what food we do grow, so good luck with that scenario.
937
05/01/2021 13:25:18 1 2
bbc
Absolutely right. For instance, the Oxford vaccine is being made in India. India has bought 40 million doses. It seems that the UK no longer has any vaccine manufacturing capacity.
05/01/2021 13:34:52 0 0
bbc
We build buildings quite well. Perhaps a nationalised construction company to take on worldwide projects?
05/01/2021 19:20:48 0 0
bbc
Costs here are far too high here in terms of labour.

Would love to see it happen though
rob
05/01/2021 21:30:42 0 0
bbc
No we don't have a monster trade deficit with the EU. Why do you think it took so long to come out of it. That debt has been paid off in most. Our debt lies in the borrowed debt on the world scene.

Why do you think we wanted out of Europe? Europe money is borrowed from the UK, the biggest bank system in the Northern hemisphere. We have been trading financial services to Europe for far too long.
05/01/2021 22:51:14 0 0
bbc
you are about 50 years to late.....the world has changed, only the UK wants to wind the clock back.
47
05/01/2021 11:35:07 24 21
bbc
The long term plan is the rich will get richer and the rest.........tough, you know your place in a Conservative world.
330
05/01/2021 12:00:06 2 3
bbc
Usual leftist rubbish.
Thankfully we don't have the kind of government you'd prefer, which would have left us in a far worse state & probably still be holding meetings to micromanage their response.
38
05/01/2021 11:34:08 35 13
bbc
This virus has been absolutely fantastic . .... ... .. for Dido harding
48
05/01/2021 11:35:09 18 5
bbc
Where's Dido?
56
05/01/2021 11:36:48 13 1
bbc
She's taken the money and ran
05/01/2021 14:41:15 1 0
bbc
Trying to get through to TalkTalk customer services
05/01/2021 15:29:32 3 0
bbc
She's only around when you need her. Hence she's never around.
05/01/2021 19:14:19 0 0
bbc
On a horse ?
06/01/2021 11:17:23 0 0
bbc
Where’s dildo ??
49
05/01/2021 11:35:31 22 20
bbc
Will the first question on the application be "are you a chum of Boris, if yes, please continue"?
13
05/01/2021 11:29:52 282 38
bbc
Probably the right thing to do, but the Government must continually remember that this is Tax Payers' money, not theirs.
50
05/01/2021 11:35:42 92 81
bbc
Actually its money from the BoE which I doubt we will ever pay back, even the interest on the debt is recycled, we (HMRC) pays it to the BoE who then gives it back to HMRC. Its basically free money, at any other time the markets would have sent our debt through the floor and we could have ended up with hyper inflation, think Germany pre WWII
198
05/01/2021 11:51:26 20 3
bbc
In theory, what you have said is correct but in practice, if the BoE were to continue to write of money it has "loaned" to HMRC, the value of Sterling would fall thought the floor, borrowing from money markets would be unaffordable and the UK's economy would crash.
What will happen is HMRC will repay the BoE and the BoE will effectively destroy the money it created.
298
05/01/2021 12:02:29 6 7
bbc
Well, Sunak, and bankers, aren't scientifically literate, so they don't understand that a perpetual motion machine is impossible.
376
05/01/2021 12:12:40 13 7
bbc
.... Brexit and CV19 do not make happy bedfellows.
485
05/01/2021 12:29:05 4 1
bbc
If it were solely a UK problem, our currency would already have crashed. The pandemic is worldwide and all major currencies are affected the same way, so with careful manipulation, no great upheavals occur.
858
05/01/2021 13:16:37 1 0
bbc
I don't think there is any such thing as 'free money'. I am not criticising the business support scheme, but the taxpayer will have to pay out in some way, eventually.
05/01/2021 13:57:52 0 0
bbc
Please give me the address so I can apply for some "free" money.
05/01/2021 15:20:28 0 1
bbc
"Its basically free money"

Anyone suggesting that has a very limited understanding of economics.
51
05/01/2021 11:35:57 8 13
bbc
Think they need to sort out there vaccination strategies asap
Complete and utter shambles .
99
05/01/2021 11:42:01 5 4
bbc
It's not a shambles. It's happening, and fast. Like to see you do better.
14
05/01/2021 11:29:55 8 15
bbc
Stop throwing money at failing businesses in the old economy. Times have changed, adapt or die.
52
05/01/2021 11:36:15 3 3
bbc
Which was the mantra of Mrs Thatcher in the early 1980s to stop propping up industry. However, we are still living with the social consequences. There is more rapid change upon us than many thought possible. If we are to adapt we need leadership and support from Government.
26
05/01/2021 11:31:58 17 18
bbc
Jealous of public sector workers, much ? Many are key workers. Don't be so ungrateful.
53
05/01/2021 11:36:22 8 9
bbc
No - not jealous at all.

Just pointing out that most public sector workers have no idea where money comes from.

Wealth has to be generated via free-enterprise. When that dries up, tax revenue dries up, when tax revenue dries up we are well and truly in the........
872
05/01/2021 13:18:37 3 2
bbc
"most public sector workers have no idea where money comes from"

Do all private sector workers get a secret handbook that public sector workers must not read?

I'd love to see your research. My professor of economics was in the public sector, he seemed to have quite a good handle on where money comes from.
05/01/2021 14:39:38 2 1
bbc
Having worked in both the private and public sectors, I know exactly where the money came from in both. It came from the people I sold my time and skills to.
14
05/01/2021 11:29:55 8 15
bbc
Stop throwing money at failing businesses in the old economy. Times have changed, adapt or die.
54
05/01/2021 11:36:29 5 1
bbc
Try getting your haircut online!
55
05/01/2021 11:36:30 6 6
bbc
I hope that the £ is quick and easy to get for businesses. That will at least take some worry away. However the mental health effects of a lockdown during the dark jan/Feb are going to be with us ongoing and Boris has to accept complete responsibility for this. His slowness to react, and the bonkers xmas plan are now hitting home.
48
05/01/2021 11:35:09 18 5
bbc
Where's Dido?
56
05/01/2021 11:36:48 13 1
bbc
She's taken the money and ran
29
05/01/2021 11:32:24 38 11
bbc
The government cannot "get the virus under control".

It is the population that spread it - if we had all followed the guidance 100%, using the hands, face, space approach we would have it under control like Taiwan and South Korea. But no, us Brits know better and go on flights, crowded beaches, etc. then blame the government.

Boris is a fool, but the general public spread the virus.
57
05/01/2021 11:37:07 15 5
bbc
In South Korea and Taiwan the population were donning N95 grade masks since February.
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05/01/2021 11:42:03 3 5
bbc
And what lovely places they are to live.
58
05/01/2021 11:37:12 168 24
bbc
I haven’t been furloughed as I went self employed in March and I haven’t had any grants. Please tell me how this is fair. Too many left behind.
68
05/01/2021 11:39:07 74 6
bbc
Me too
102
05/01/2021 11:42:20 14 33
bbc
Who said life is fair? You are deluded in thinking life is fair. It is not and is not supposed to be.
283
05/01/2021 12:01:04 16 4
bbc
In all honesty, what can they do? There's no employer to manage furlough through, you wouldn't be getting that employer's wage any more as self employed, and they have no idea what your usual profit would be.

They literally can't put a figure on it to help you.

As much as they're terrible and too low, (was on them briefly recently) benefits is the only real route they can offer.
05/01/2021 13:45:33 3 3
bbc
It’s not fair at all. The trouble is that you now fit into a small group and thus your voice is lost in this whole mess. I tend to find the people who are pro to the government approach are not really affected economically from this pandemic. I also know that this government will fail to be re-elected without the support of people like you.
ema
05/01/2021 13:51:33 11 1
bbc
I went self employed June 2019 and I’m excluded too
05/01/2021 14:59:23 1 0
bbc
It isn't. There should be a Job Guarantee where in return for registering your business for PAYE and paying your drawings like an employee you have access to a default job paying the Living Wage when business is down.
05/01/2021 15:18:14 3 2
bbc
And me, and as I am on tax credits, not universal credit, I don't even get the £20 per week bonus. Feel like I am paying for help for others but being left out...like many other I feel.
min
05/01/2021 16:05:16 2 1
bbc
My daughter also, started in summer 2019
05/01/2021 16:39:11 1 2
bbc
Not fair at all. Have you reached out to the excludeduk support group? Might help some even just moral support
05/01/2021 16:54:43 1 1
bbc
We have had Vat to pay, we earn more than 50k so could not get self employed support. We got 10k then had VAT to pay. Me and my other half have to share that 10k. We got that in August. Nothing since. My company has not earned since end of March last year. Essentially me and my partner have earned 5k this financial year. We have a mortgage and two children.we will not be earning till April
05/01/2021 18:36:36 2 1
bbc
Same here! That’ll be 10 months with no help whatsoever! Not entitled to claim anything. I still have a mortgage to pay and children to feed! There are thousands of us who have fallen thru the net and then there are people who are working and on furlough too! It’s not fair at all!
CJR
05/01/2021 18:53:53 1 0
bbc
Sorry but in the 1st year you are expected to make a no profit, as this scheme pays on profits you would highly be unlikely to qualify for at least 2 years of going self employed
05/01/2021 21:55:23 1 1
bbc
Self employed, means self unemployed. It has downsides. Every job you get can be the last you ever get. No reason to have the State bail you out. It is not supposed to be a way of just raking in tax advantages. No magic right to any income at all.
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Ann
05/01/2021 11:37:17 8 5
bbc
I hope this is the last lockdown. We cannot afford more. The govt really need to use this lockdown to ramp up vaccinations and get done with it. People don’t have appetite for any more lockdowns
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05/01/2021 11:43:18 14 7
bbc
We are vccinating as quickly as supplies of vaccine are available. So far that's 1,200,000 people in the UK. About twice as many as the whole of the EU,

Perhaps if the Moaning Minnies obeyed the rules we would be in n even better place.
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05/01/2021 11:37:34 140 21
bbc
Time for a Covid windfall Tax, Those involved with Track & trace, would be good first candidates.
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05/01/2021 11:40:58 112 17
bbc
Amazon too
743
05/01/2021 12:59:38 9 3
bbc
True but this lot will not tax their cronies. Funny how this world beating test and trace system hardly mentioned now-£22 billion up the spout or into cronies pockets.
05/01/2021 14:01:29 0 3
bbc
Actually a tax on supermarkets might be appropriate. Think how many businesses have to close because they're deemed "non-essential" yet the supermarkets can sell the same categories of goods.

I'd suggest a temporary 50% VAT on such things during lockdown, except whenever have you heard of a temporary tax?
61
05/01/2021 11:38:04 6 8
bbc
How are we going to pay for all this?

Lockdown is a disater in the making. More people will die from its resultant poverty than from Covid-19 infection. Granted we have to keep hospitals from bursting at the seams but as soon as the pressure's released, all restrictions have to end to allow businesses to trade and get the economy turning again, generating the funds to fill the chasm of debt.
93
05/01/2021 11:41:27 0 4
bbc
The rich will pay and the poor will laugh at them.
62
05/01/2021 11:38:07 143 32
bbc
Completely inadequate levels of support being offered. The problem here is that the people who clamour for lockdowns and then put them in place are almost completely unaffected by them in any way, so do not understand the financial and other calamity that many are facing. Also, council tax as well as business rates need to be frozen for the foreseeable future
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Ian
05/01/2021 12:04:39 59 21
bbc
The market going south is a normal business risk - and so no bail out expected. But in this case the market has gone south due to the government's actions and nothing else. That's why they should be offering better support
907
05/01/2021 13:21:53 1 0
bbc
I agree, but the government is allowing councils in England to raise council tax again next year, and most of them will.
05/01/2021 14:31:20 4 2
bbc
And just how many are affected if we don't lockdown? How many more do you want to die or be permanently damaged to save you? Taxes should and will go up to repay all the money that's been paid out - the Gov't is not a charity and there is no money tree available. Many others will suffer to keep you safe - stop whinging, be grateful for what every other taxpayer is giving you.
05/01/2021 14:52:38 2 0
bbc
Well they doing more then any other country in world
05/01/2021 15:00:14 1 0
bbc
You freeze CT and business tax and you have no local public services
63
05/01/2021 11:38:20 28 5
bbc
There are many people doing very nicely out of the current situation. It is a pity the companies doing the best seem to pay the least tax.
87
05/01/2021 11:40:49 6 24
bbc
Jealousy? What is fair? How about everyone pay the same tax, not percentage, but actual amount?

Why is percentage fair?
We do not pay a percentage of income for bread.
825
05/01/2021 13:10:55 1 0
bbc
Most of them including Rees Mogg's now post Brexit Dublin based Hedge Fund doesn't pay any tax! Bit like Tina and Phil Green in Monaco ....
29
05/01/2021 11:32:24 38 11
bbc
The government cannot "get the virus under control".

It is the population that spread it - if we had all followed the guidance 100%, using the hands, face, space approach we would have it under control like Taiwan and South Korea. But no, us Brits know better and go on flights, crowded beaches, etc. then blame the government.

Boris is a fool, but the general public spread the virus.
64
05/01/2021 11:38:35 8 17
bbc
Taiwan & South Korea had clear and consise information AND functioning track & trace systems. We are still waiting for our £12 Billion plus one to work.

And most academics have praised the British public for following the rules!
585
05/01/2021 12:42:29 0 2
bbc
Academics are too full of their own importance. Many are just professional students.
5
05/01/2021 11:28:41 20 17
bbc
“Businesses in retail, hospitality and leisure will receive new grants to help them keep afloat until spring”

What about all the other businesses that, whilst still open and able to operate, have lost half their workforce because they have to perform childcare duties with the schools shut.

Life in public-sector land will go on regardless, whilst businesses subject to real world pressures fold.
65
05/01/2021 11:38:44 10 5
bbc
Public sector land ? You mean those that have worked throughout all this such as NHS,Police , HMRC, DWP, Fire Service, Armed forces etc. Yes its been peachy for them with no pressure at all !
150
05/01/2021 11:45:48 4 4
bbc
And my god - haven't we been told about it over and over again.

Shop workers fed us.
Delivery drivers gave us our Christmas.
Scientists (including me) gave us vaccines and healthcare.

Most of the NHS has been shutdown - yes it has been hard for them, but would you rather be (not) working for Debenhams, Arcadia, Bonmarche, Peacocks. Bensons. harveys, etc

Very, very few jobs are not essential
246
djf
05/01/2021 11:57:15 5 0
bbc
Dont forget council workers. The roads have still been mended, bins emptied, street lights are still on. The list goes on for a long way......
37
05/01/2021 11:34:05 8 5
bbc
We need to get vaccination out there fast. Perhaps as we're going back to lockdown we should drop the priority list & do a street-by-street sweep across the entire country (side to side or top to bottom, whatever) and just catch everyone who has sufficient wit to accept the jab that way.
66
05/01/2021 11:38:55 6 4
bbc
You do know that if they started in the London then they would be blamed for being London centric, or the SE then Southern centric, or up North then they would be blamed for bribing them for votes.

No win situation
While the measures are welcomed. Let's never forget, they are necessary because the government has failed to get the virus under control. It is not good news.
67
05/01/2021 11:39:01 26 8
bbc
People need to stop blaming the govt and rule-breakers for the virus getting out of control. It's a virus, for heaven's sake. Unless we LITERALLY avoid anyone ever coming into close contact with anyone else (impossible) it was always going avoid being 'controlled'
58
05/01/2021 11:37:12 168 24
bbc
I haven’t been furloughed as I went self employed in March and I haven’t had any grants. Please tell me how this is fair. Too many left behind.
68
05/01/2021 11:39:07 74 6
bbc
Me too
26
05/01/2021 11:31:58 17 18
bbc
Jealous of public sector workers, much ? Many are key workers. Don't be so ungrateful.
69
DJG
05/01/2021 11:39:11 8 5
bbc
We need to be grateful to everyone who works and pays taxes to make the system work. We're degenerating into a society where only 'key workers' are given any appreciation. Now only their kids are schooled, and they want priority treatment for everything from shopping to medical treatments. It's not viable.
05/01/2021 14:55:56 2 0
bbc
I'm a key worker (apologies to all who are offended). I have never asked for priority or received it in anything as your comment suggests. Yes, with the vaccine roll out I am on a list to receive it. That is not for my benefit, but for the frail people I care for.
Key workers are not making the rules. If you think the rules are wrong and discriminate against "me". Complain to the government.
15
05/01/2021 11:29:59 22 9
bbc
You're getting help already. The Universal Credit!
70
05/01/2021 11:39:21 6 8
bbc
Unfortunately the universal credit is not paying for their lavish lifestyles, some only have an Iphone 11, PS4 and a 55" UHD tv, thinking of you all in these desperate times.
71
05/01/2021 11:39:24 23 8
bbc
The current cabinet make Chris Grayling look like a Greek shipping magnate!
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The current Cabinet look like all the other Cabinets of the last 10 years - ineffective, self serving, devious, deceitful and devotees of PR damage limitation ahead of all else. Just one problem, the great British electorate must comprise a large number of people who are very easily led/pleased or a lot of masochists.
41
05/01/2021 11:34:35 32 21
bbc
So primary schools were open for the grand total of 1 day and he says this was ok. Does this clown have any idea of the chaos he is causing? EVERYONE saw this coming from a mile away apart from the PM and his inept cronies. Williamson is a laughing stock. Hancock has failed to prepare for the vaccine rollout. Patel is conspicuous only in her absence. The list goes on but my patience is finished.
72
05/01/2021 11:39:46 5 9
bbc
and the relevance to business grants is ....?
132
05/01/2021 11:44:40 1 2
bbc
The link is a bloody useless Boris lead Gov
73
05/01/2021 11:39:47 6 3
bbc
What they need is to earn their own money instead of the tax payer perpetually footing the bill. This will completely destroy small business and give everything to big corps and destroy the high street altogether! Unacceptable!
665
05/01/2021 12:51:31 0 0
bbc
Did you understand anything at all?

You proposal that they "earn their own money" - explain how that would not destroy small business, given they have zero customers.
41
05/01/2021 11:34:35 32 21
bbc
So primary schools were open for the grand total of 1 day and he says this was ok. Does this clown have any idea of the chaos he is causing? EVERYONE saw this coming from a mile away apart from the PM and his inept cronies. Williamson is a laughing stock. Hancock has failed to prepare for the vaccine rollout. Patel is conspicuous only in her absence. The list goes on but my patience is finished.
74
05/01/2021 11:39:48 1 4
bbc
So, your patience is finished, so you're going to do what exactly?
Vote for someone other than the Tories like you always have, well that'll show them.
14
05/01/2021 11:29:55 8 15
bbc
Stop throwing money at failing businesses in the old economy. Times have changed, adapt or die.
75
05/01/2021 11:40:12 1 1
bbc
Like; to Covid-19?
76
05/01/2021 11:40:12 4 4
bbc
I'm proper gutted!!!!!!

Why am I only one going to work again?

And I haven't received a single golden rishi coin! ??

This is definitely a broken Algorithm! ??

Typical in it!

Think about that while your all getting bladdered on your "left over" christmas booze! ??
77
05/01/2021 11:40:14 226 74
bbc
Well just to be clear. The UK has vaccinated 1,200,000 people. The French 530. The Dutch ZERO
And still folk moan about our response
129
05/01/2021 11:44:29 172 92
bbc
vaccinating the care home population isn't going to get the economy going any time soon.
142
05/01/2021 11:45:19 1 20
bbc
It's rubbish isn't it.
145
05/01/2021 11:43:00 15 28
bbc
Let's compare in a month.
380
05/01/2021 12:13:10 48 14
bbc
Too many people are constantly running down this country.
687
05/01/2021 12:53:25 9 15
bbc
Why are we in this position. Other countries have not got the UK level of infection. Let us see whether this shambolic bunch make a success of the vaccination programme. Jabs are already being rationed-three month delays from the first jab is not recommended by the scientists who developed it
827
05/01/2021 13:11:36 10 3
bbc
Exactly, add to that actually securing the vaccines in the first place, the largest testing capacity in Europe, managing to source PPE during a global shortage and a super generous furlough scheme, and Boris and co have done a brilliant job.

Sure they made mistakes trusting Dido Harding, but on balance things they have done great, and deserve credit.
993
05/01/2021 13:32:15 0 3
bbc
Still going to be carping on about that when they've exceeded our best effort..
05/01/2021 13:20:41 1 6
bbc
"Our response" to this is 75,341 deaths ....so far.
Plenty more to come.
You think that's just fine and dandy then, right?
ema
05/01/2021 13:50:56 0 3
bbc
Yes, because we have the highest growing number of cases so we’re top priority for the vaccine. It will take a good 5-8 months to get enough people vaccinated to relax restrictions to tier 1/2 again :/
xlr
05/01/2021 13:56:06 2 2
bbc
That's less about our response than the fact the MHRA approved the vaccines faster than the EMA or FDA.
05/01/2021 13:57:45 1 3
bbc
Think you misread about the Dutch,it's the second vaccine,nevermind Tories have never understood the truth
05/01/2021 14:07:52 1 2
bbc
Vaccinating those most at risk who should be sheltering anyway will do nothing to stop the spread. Its a political stunt. The vaccine should go first to those that need to mix to support the economy. These are the ones spreading the virus.
05/01/2021 14:51:29 0 0
bbc
Well said
05/01/2021 15:40:09 0 2
bbc
The UK short cut the approval because the handling of the response to the virus had been disastrous and the death toll was getting embarrassing to the government. We turned our country into a mass drug trial for those countries who had handled it better to check the vaccine was safe with.

That's why people moan about the UK gov's incompetent response.
05/01/2021 16:02:10 0 1
bbc
And Israel?
We were told months ago that we were paying AZ to manufacturer 20 million doses ahead of approval just so we could hit the ground running once approval was given.
We were being lied to again!
78
05/01/2021 11:40:16 5 8
bbc
If we had closed the borders last January none of this would have happened. I hope we learn from this in the future - if there is the chance of a pandemic, furlough the aviation industry for a month until we know the true situation (cover up by China). Then when we know the situation and if it isnt a pandemic, reopen borders. If it is a pandemic, close borders and furlough aviation until ends.
170
05/01/2021 11:47:46 2 1
bbc
It clearly is not a pandemic at present as we seem to have allowed the export of mince to Dubai. CFC say it isn't a jolly but I hope that the authorities recognise the fact that it clearly should not be permitted.
27
05/01/2021 11:32:04 151 51
bbc
£22 billion and counting wasted on Track & Trace for their chums. When are they going to be held to account?
79
05/01/2021 11:40:22 64 110
bbc
Do you think you could have done better, I bet you would have made a worse mess.
355
05/01/2021 12:08:33 20 12
bbc
Bodger Boris, who couldn't do better than this twit.
508
05/01/2021 12:31:43 12 6
bbc
None of which responds to the point being made.

Drexl's ability or otherwise to do that job is irrelevant. Our ability to assess and critique the performance of the T & T is not contingent on being better able to deliver it.

How do you cope at a football match, when everyone boos a bad kick for a penalty? I expect you tell them to hush because they are not the world's #1 penalty taker.
512
05/01/2021 12:32:10 17 5
bbc
But my friends probably wouldn't have got rich at the taxpayer's expense.....
651
05/01/2021 12:49:14 11 4
bbc
Those whose first priority was not making money, would have been better candidates. Greedy people do not have as their core objectives the focus of the enterprise.
756
05/01/2021 13:00:46 3 5
bbc
Face facts and take your blinkers off.
800
05/01/2021 13:07:47 10 5
bbc
With the exception of maybe an as yet unknown tribe of deep jungle Temple Monkeys it is hard to know any living species that could have handled this and indeed UK Plc more badly than the current bunch of numbskulls people strangely call a UK Govt!!
927
05/01/2021 13:24:15 11 4
bbc
You have to laugh Grumpy - only Boris and pals would assume the NHS could make a track and trace app better than the worlds best IT developers at Google and Apple. Old school arrogance mixed with a dash of sheer stupidity!
928
05/01/2021 13:24:19 13 3
bbc
Grovel away grumpy. This government has shoveled untold riches to its own family members and donors and all the angry Brexit grandads can come up with is frothing complaints that people have noticed.
981
05/01/2021 13:30:35 5 0
bbc
A young chap in Japan or Korea developed an app to t&t in a couple of days at the start of this pandemic, Google it and read all about it!
It's really not that hard, getting people to use it properly and businesses allowing staff to use it at work are other matters though !!!
05/01/2021 13:54:27 1 1
bbc
Yes
05/01/2021 14:00:38 4 1
bbc
Another day,another Tory,same old story
05/01/2021 14:08:57 7 1
bbc
I could have made an app that actually works, for free. It's just an API call for crying out loud.

And here is the REAL rub :

I'm a software engineer on the government payroll. I could have EASILY built and deployed an app at no extra cost to the taxpayer, but they would rather give exorbitant sums to their mates at serco. These clowns in charge are idiots!!
05/01/2021 15:09:47 4 0
bbc
Yep
Couldn’t have done worse
05/01/2021 16:09:08 1 0
bbc
well i have a note pad, a supply of pens and lots of 20ps for the payphone down the road and I reckon I wouldnt have much worse....
05/01/2021 16:32:40 0 0
bbc
I wouldve only given 15 million to my mates. That is better!
05/01/2021 19:08:13 0 0
bbc
Maybe but I wouldn't have blown 22 billion doing it.
Just take time to reflect on that figure.
Most of it was given to a Florida based jewellery firm with no health provision experience.
On what planet....can anyone justify this.
80
05/01/2021 11:40:29 16 2
bbc
"...the UK economy will have shrunk by 11.3% in 2020 - the biggest decline in 300 years. It expects unemployment to peak at 9.7%."

£394billion borrowed this financial year when we expected it to be £55billion.

IFS quoted at tax rises equalling 40billion will be inevitable.

Ouch!

We will be paying this off in the same way if not greater in terms of repayments as WW2.
108
05/01/2021 11:43:04 9 4
bbc
Did that kill us?
797
05/01/2021 13:07:33 0 0
bbc
In a year or two tory spin will have you believe UK making great strides forward and unfortunately people will believe it
05/01/2021 14:01:23 0 0
bbc
Let the central banks eat the debt !
06/01/2021 11:11:10 0 0
bbc
£394 billion? Less than 4 years NHS budget? Context is key here.
81
05/01/2021 11:34:58 11 11
bbc
Good to see the Labour lovers out in force today again.

Never satisfied, Boris and those evil Tories giving all this money away to people.

I always thought that voting Labour means free stuff. What are you moaning about?
135
05/01/2021 11:44:46 1 3
bbc
? It's lovely to see cons being social !
144
05/01/2021 11:42:31 1 1
bbc
It's a bit complicated.
82
05/01/2021 11:35:44 7 8
bbc
So our economy that has run at a loss for decades and is now damaged by Brexit and Covid will somehow pay off this massive borrowing.

With a clown who can't plan 24 hours ahead running it.....

I don't think so.
83
05/01/2021 11:36:09 2 2
bbc
What about manufacturers, in the meantime we have to take CBILS to stay afloat why can’t money be handed to us too!
37
05/01/2021 11:34:05 8 5
bbc
We need to get vaccination out there fast. Perhaps as we're going back to lockdown we should drop the priority list & do a street-by-street sweep across the entire country (side to side or top to bottom, whatever) and just catch everyone who has sufficient wit to accept the jab that way.
84
05/01/2021 11:36:27 1 1
bbc
Nowhere near enough vaccine available.
85
05/01/2021 11:40:34 102 31
bbc
Whilst criticising the government we should also look at what is going on in the rest of the world and particularly Europe.
110
05/01/2021 11:43:07 104 87
bbc
Frankly, I don't give a flying monkey's what's being done in the rest of the world and in Europe, I care about what is being done here in the UK.
121
05/01/2021 11:43:54 21 5
bbc
Well said
171
05/01/2021 11:47:51 17 41
bbc
The rest of the world is doing OK except for the Covid Virus that is affecting us all. It the UK that is having the problems brought about Blundering Boris's lies and ambitions to go down in history as a Great 2nd Churchill in the 1940's. The only diff will be he will be known as the blundering liar that put the UK down the tubes to create Little Britain. Happy New Year
377
05/01/2021 12:12:59 4 0
bbc
That doesn't just apply for Governments, but for causes of the virus spreading. We seem to blame rule breakers all the time as if our country is in a mess because of them, but it must also be a problem for the rest of Europe. Unless of course that's not the reason its spreading?
493
05/01/2021 12:12:51 9 13
bbc
It’s only central EU countries and the U.K. in lockdowns.

Everywhere else is free.

Even countries that need international assistance for things like cholera outbreaks and diarrhoea are absolutely fine regarding Covid.

It’s not global.

In the U.K... critical care bed use... DOWN, deaths not up significantly here or anywhere in the world.

All this is is authoritarian control.
724
05/01/2021 12:56:33 14 7
bbc
Yes, I am in Spain at the moment with 20per cent of UK infections and nowhere near the same restrictions. Still I suppose you will find some comment to try and suggest what I am saying and seeing is not correct. Stop making excuses for Johnson and Co.
823
05/01/2021 13:10:54 13 7
bbc
Ok - let's look at Europe. Ignoring the tiny countries, we have a death rate per population higher than everywhere except Belgium and Italy and we have the worst affected economy in the world. So, this government has protected neither lives nor economy. Good job!
05/01/2021 14:02:21 0 1
bbc
I see now we blame other countries,you Tories live in a very strange horrible world,we won't miss you
05/01/2021 14:10:09 0 1
bbc
Well done for pointing this out. Most of the rest of the world is handling this far better than us. This cabinet of corruption and cronyism is failing us all.
05/01/2021 14:48:34 0 0
bbc
rest of the world eg China has no Covid. They test everyone flying in
05/01/2021 14:52:49 0 0
bbc
Exactly
05/01/2021 17:12:28 0 0
bbc
How about looking at the vaccination level in Israel
05/01/2021 19:45:50 0 0
bbc
Except Belgium we've the highest deaths average, highest cases as of today, we even make US look good at the moment. So most EU countries closed boarders and went full Marshall lockdown, with curfew etc. They announced furlough would last as long as the problem, they lockdown for less time because they did lock down! Nearest supermarket only, not nearest Waitrose! Muppets in gov.
86
05/01/2021 11:40:43 36 11
bbc
I'm going to be controversial here. I really don't want a return to the usual Saturday night drunk fest that plagues our towns and cities. It's puts the NHS, Police, and everyone else who has to tolerate the borish behaviour of these people under strain.
Perhaps there is a opportunity for permanent change here. Is the slimming down of the hospitality sector such a bad thing?
122
05/01/2021 11:43:56 26 6
bbc
Alcohol costs the state 10x all other drug-problems combined.
219
05/01/2021 11:54:02 4 1
bbc
I'm not certain about a slimming down, but perhaps those venues /outlets which in the past existed by getting people to drink too much should be made to be financially responsible for their sales policy, and similarly take aways should be responsible for the mess caused by their business.
05/01/2021 13:43:15 3 2
bbc
Driving the population to enjoy themselves in more unlicensed ways? As is happening now drugs culture is blossoming with coronavirus like it or not. Some people just need to get out more. Similarly its not every town and city with a problem only a few. You can always move if its not to your taste.
63
05/01/2021 11:38:20 28 5
bbc
There are many people doing very nicely out of the current situation. It is a pity the companies doing the best seem to pay the least tax.
87
05/01/2021 11:40:49 6 24
bbc
Jealousy? What is fair? How about everyone pay the same tax, not percentage, but actual amount?

Why is percentage fair?
We do not pay a percentage of income for bread.
136
05/01/2021 11:44:52 6 2
bbc
So a millionaire should be taxed the same as a pauper. Get Real!
385
05/01/2021 12:13:42 4 0
bbc
Great idea. So where do you set the level for everyone to pay the same? Let's say £30000. So everyone pays 20% of that in tax. Person A earns £20000 pa and pays £6000. Marcus Rashford gets £10.4 million and also pays £6000. Great plan.
06/01/2021 00:51:07 1 0
bbc
"How about everyone pay the same tax, not percentage, but actual amount?"

Ironic given your user name (Licence Fee Get rid of it BBC) is a comment on a tax which is exactly the taxation method you claim to support.

Difficult to work out whether you're a troll or you haven't thought your point through.
06/01/2021 11:16:35 0 0
bbc
You’re user name says everything about you, a hypocrite who doesn’t like paying tax, ??
88
05/01/2021 11:40:49 17 5
bbc
just delaying the inevitable cliff edge when all these furloughed people, likely who think lockdowns are wonderful to let them sit and watch netflix all day, realise there aren't any jobs to go back to
109
05/01/2021 11:43:05 0 1
bbc
Netflix is a zenith isn't it.
05/01/2021 21:03:06 0 0
bbc
I'm glad to say that I'm not a Netflix binge-watcher even though I'm on furlough. This ain't no holiday!
89
05/01/2021 11:40:54 490 85
bbc
Here we go again with the 'printing free money' brigade. Until you have tried running a business I suggest you keep your traps shut. Small businesses across almost every sector are on their knees. For the overwhelming majority the cash is about survival, not swanning off on the yacht. Without financial support to businesses, you might find yourselves out of a job - without another one to go to.
249
DrA
05/01/2021 11:57:29 205 290
bbc
Running a business does not automatically make you eligible for social support when the market goes south. The taxpayer is not a nationalised private business insurance scheme. If you get a public hand out I suggest you keep your trap shut and be grateful for it.
318
05/01/2021 12:03:57 42 80
bbc
Doesn't look like that to me, some people raking in more in grants and emergency funding than they ever earned or paid tax on. Never seen so many new upmarket cars and SUVs since furlough was extended.
563
IR
05/01/2021 12:39:43 31 8
bbc
I run a business as co-director of a limited company; we have not received one penny of support from the government despite a 90% fall in income. What makes you so special?
710
05/01/2021 12:55:59 1 0
bbc
And instead of grant read loan because that is what it is
739
05/01/2021 12:59:13 8 6
bbc
I know of one person who has a limited company (fantasy businessman) has never made a sale, has borrowed 50k from the BBLB scheme and then used it to pay salary to himself and subsequently managed to furlough himself. I imagine this is going on an industrial scale. Any business or individual who has taken support should be taxed more heavily in the years to come when the govt moves to balance.
852
05/01/2021 13:15:59 3 2
bbc
Buy the yacht with profit and survive with support!

How can I compete with businesses I am forced to support?
944
05/01/2021 13:25:57 3 10
bbc
If you own a business and you don't have a cash reserve for a year if things go south you shouldn't be in business. Stop banking all the profits and run it properly. After a year then you should get help . Greed is greed and it should be stamped out
05/01/2021 13:20:56 2 3
bbc
What about those businesses claiming every penny they can get from the government and then continuing to trade!
05/01/2021 13:29:32 1 1
bbc
So you have a yacht then?

Times must be hard.
05/01/2021 13:49:59 1 0
bbc
Since 2008 most Government borrowing has been through its bank, the BoE, buying Government corporate bonds:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/08/the-verdict-on-10-years-of-quantitative-easing

The BoE is part of Government:

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/knowledgebank/who-owns-the-bank-of-england

The BoE has conjured the money it has used to buy Government bonds out of thin air.
05/01/2021 13:51:39 1 0
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The BoE has also been, since the 2008 crash, buying back Government bonds from financial institutions, who have in turn bought more Government bonds; and it's been going in that circular motion ever since.

This is all funded by the money conjured out of thin air; it has redirected lots more wealth to the rich, whilst we have been sold the lie we need to repay it through austerity & wage freezes.
05/01/2021 13:53:22 0 1
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When interest rates are extremely low or, as they are currently, at a negative rate, institutions are paying the Government to look after their money.

It's a game of smoke & mirrors proving that the economy has always been contrived & manipulated.

There is no need to raise our taxes, depress our wages or impose austerity on us. Will YOU fall for it again?
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05/01/2021 11:37:34 140 21
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Time for a Covid windfall Tax, Those involved with Track & trace, would be good first candidates.
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05/01/2021 11:40:58 112 17
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Amazon too
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meh
05/01/2021 12:00:23 6 22
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Didnt take long for dimwitted lefty remoaner to come up with crying about Amazon/facebook.

So why cry about yesterdays news about some EU companies not selling to UK anymore cause they have to pay UK VAT as per HMRC regulations on 1/1/21

Dont bull5h1t saying amazon should pay more.
05/01/2021 13:59:36 3 0
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So true but don't hold your breath
05/01/2021 19:27:53 1 0
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Even better tax all those 'cash in hand' businesses that actually defraud the country out of an estimated £350 billion a year......
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05/01/2021 11:41:16 4 6
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The first lockdown was probably unavoidable but went on too long - since then the Government have failed to follow a strategy to protect the vulnerable and to keep as much open as possible - instead we have had restrictions of varying levels which to a large extent should have been unnecessary - an utter shambles of a Government ??
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05/01/2021 11:44:13 2 1
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Elderly not responsible for the spread. Younger people need hospital, too. They may well not die but our hospitals are full of 30-60 year olds with severe cases.
While the measures are welcomed. Let's never forget, they are necessary because the government has failed to get the virus under control. It is not good news.
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05/01/2021 11:41:23 22 5
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It is not the Government who have failed to get the virus under control. It is people who are not following (very) simple rules who have failed to get the virus under control!
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05/01/2021 11:38:04 6 8
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How are we going to pay for all this?

Lockdown is a disater in the making. More people will die from its resultant poverty than from Covid-19 infection. Granted we have to keep hospitals from bursting at the seams but as soon as the pressure's released, all restrictions have to end to allow businesses to trade and get the economy turning again, generating the funds to fill the chasm of debt.
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05/01/2021 11:41:27 0 4
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The rich will pay and the poor will laugh at them.
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05/01/2021 11:41:28 2 1
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If the Valuation Office Agency (VOA) classifies premises as an office, you get a big fat zero even if you are in retail, hospitality or leisure. Crazy system.
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05/01/2021 11:40:02 8 5
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Covid windfall tax of 90% should be applied to Tory mates who got lucrative PPE contracts.
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05/01/2021 12:53:15 2 1
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So they get to keep 10% of the money?

Not much of a deterrent, would you let a mugger keep 10% if you were able to catch them?
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05/01/2021 11:27:56 122 84
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A government of constant failures for businesses.

Maggie would be U-turning in her grave!

Boris, I have saved Christmas, alas Christmas is cancelled.
Schools are safe, no they are not
Algorithm is robust, no it isn’t
No free school meals, oh alright then
Laptops for children, no laptops for you
We should mass test, no let’s stop
World beating App, no it’s not
Work from home, no stay at home
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05/01/2021 11:40:07 21 17
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Absolutely wrong my friend. UK is performing better against this virus than most other countries.

The big difference in UK though is the existence of the professional moaning classes (disgruntled lefties and remainers in many cases) and the armchair experts, all empowered by social meedja.
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05/01/2021 11:45:55 13 17
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Put your Express down and take a harder look at the facts, "Now Wash Your Hands Please". Our performance is abysmal.
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05/01/2021 11:48:37 7 7
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Oven ready.
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05/01/2021 11:52:30 7 11
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Hi Now wash your hands please,
Everything I said in my post is true, they are all u-turns, so what is wrong?
And I think you will find there are as many professional moaners & armchair experts on the right!
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05/01/2021 11:53:23 7 9
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Is this the new British mentality. Everyone is rubbish; but our rubbish is better than the rest so we will just continue to deliver rubbish. It’s no wonder we have had back to back rubbish politicians. We benchmark ourselves on failed methodologies.
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05/01/2021 13:23:01 3 3
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How do you define "performing better"? Ignoring small countries with populations of less than 10 million, we have the 5th highest death rate per capita in the world and we have had the biggest economic hit. So, we have managed to protect neither lives nor economy. I know this doesn't fit your narrative, but criticism of government doesn't make us "lefties" or "remainers", just realists.
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05/01/2021 13:31:58 2 1
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"UK is performing better against this virus than most other countries."

You can't just make statements that are lies and think that's the end of it. This is not Russia!

So please give us five things that the UK has handled better than most countries.
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05/01/2021 11:40:18 8 2
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The first round of grants and loans was full of holes and fraudulent claims. Lots of fraudster driving around in new sports cars. Let's hope that they get their due diligence in place this time.
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05/01/2021 12:48:03 2 0
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Has "hoping" worked well for you in the past?
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05/01/2021 11:40:30 91 10
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"Elite sport" must be paused or this just looks like a charade , absolute nonsense and they know it. We have Glasgow Celtic travelling to Dubai with full government approval but we are told to stay home ? Nope it's just not on , they had better quarantine for 10 days on return or this is going to kick off.
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05/01/2021 11:43:18 7 7
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they are a 'club like no other'
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05/01/2021 11:47:24 2 2
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Why should Celtic quarantine for 10 days, no British clubs quarantine when they return from European ties?

Same goes for players on international duty.
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05/01/2021 11:59:14 0 1
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In addition, travellers returning from the UAE to Scotland are exempt from quarantine protocols.
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05/01/2021 12:18:01 3 0
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Also, why are there dozens of folk in the stadium at 'Elite Sports' games. They have absolutely no input to the game. Sour grapes it may be, but Grassroots is not allowed because 'people' around the game are a big problem, according to SFA.
But then again, SFA, is not fit for purpose. Pathetic organisation.
05/01/2021 18:22:13 2 2
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Yup, "elite sport" sounds like something from nazi Germany. I am surprised the BBC use such a fascist terminology. It suggests that everyone else is non elite. Not very inclusive is it.
05/01/2021 18:33:11 1 2
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Everyone in America has been given ??2,000 each to help the economy. When are we all getting ours?
05/01/2021 20:36:33 1 0
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Agreed: "Elite" and "Sport" - definition of sport. "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." If it's for fun and entertainment then it's non-essential and should be subject to the lockdown. But, it's not, it's business and its hard to say why it should get preferential treatment as compared to others
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05/01/2021 11:35:57 8 13
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Think they need to sort out there vaccination strategies asap
Complete and utter shambles .
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05/01/2021 11:42:01 5 4
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It's not a shambles. It's happening, and fast. Like to see you do better.
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05/01/2021 12:00:29 0 1
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Really enigma aptly named. Nightingale lying empty can be used as vaccination centre, military not being used at present, approved last week then waited 4 days to roll out. Catch a grip
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05/01/2021 11:32:56 204 23
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My specialist small business that only has a handful of customers per day has to close, yet the takeaways remain open and are packed out.
So disheartening!
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05/01/2021 11:42:16 125 6
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Feel for you. My business is now fully closed