Covid: 'No question' restrictions will be tightened, says Boris Johnson
04/01/2021 | news | politics | 4,597
Boris Johnson warns of "tough" weeks ahead, as coronavirus infection rates continue to surge.
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04/01/2021 11:29:52 28 11
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Tougher measures at this time will do nothing. The people not keeping them now won't keep them in a higher tier, the people following it now should be more or less protected.
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04/01/2021 11:40:19 9 21
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It looks like people have been trying to follow Government guidelines for too long and are tiring of them, especially when they see they don't appear to be working. Daily briefings, graphs, charts, statistics slogans and tiers have had it. Its now time for deaths, hospitals collapsing under pressure and troops on the streets.
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04/01/2021 11:29:57 2 13
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first comment yay
Nope; loser!
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04/01/2021 11:30:47 368 34
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Maybe it would be better to enforce the current measures before introducing tougher ones?
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04/01/2021 11:35:25 101 48
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Agree but if you start trying to do that its likely to cause social unrest so by introducing tougher measures nationwide and strict enforcement the vast majority will comply.
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04/01/2021 11:35:38 25 1
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No Enforcers these days, lots of talk but no enforcers.
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04/01/2021 11:48:51 34 9
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Agree wholeheartedly Pablo. Police should first give a heavy fine then for repeat offences imprison for 14 days. Too much namby pamby enforcement allows the selfish to ignore the rules. Thats why we have what we have now, a situation out of control.
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04/01/2021 11:56:51 6 28
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Why? I'll follow restrictions when they are all encompassing. I'm not follow restrictions while schools and students are in on site education. It's just contradictory and inept rules.
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04/01/2021 12:11:29 7 3
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but who would do that ? the police whose numbers are depleted due to years of funding cuts by Tory goverments?
04/01/2021 12:41:43 6 1
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Of course if people behaved like grown-ups there wouldn't be a need to enforce them, people would just do it.
04/01/2021 12:54:20 1 1
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We need to do both. We don't have the luxury to see if tighter enforcement would get R below 1. But I agree, enforcement has been a joke leading to far too many breaches.
04/01/2021 13:01:19 1 1
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Copper on every street corner is it then?
The UK is policed by consent largely, we are not North Korea. Fines are being given out in significant cases.
04/01/2021 14:19:40 1 0
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Complying with existing measures, I'm in a Tier 4 area, would make a noticeable impact. The current Tier 4 restrictions in England are not very different from last Spring's 'lockdown', yet the public's compliance this time is poor. I live near a main road, and during the lockdown in a half hour period only one horse went past. I'm now seeing around 20 cars per minute, people are still circulating!
04/01/2021 14:24:46 0 0
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I would certainly like to see more Govt resources given to councils to employ many more wardens, with powers! And the police should be strongly encouraged to come down very hard on those who flout the rules.

Oh, and fines should be rigorously enforced, with strong alternative sanctions for the non-payers … clean hospitals maybe?
04/01/2021 15:02:04 2 0
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I went out for my weekly shop alone yesterday and I was shocked to see the majority were not socially distanced, not wearing masks (using them as chin warmers) and making the outing to a supermarket a family affair. I had an essential medical appointment in the City, again the majority of people were not following the guidelines and those responsible for enforcing them were simply ignoring them.
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04/01/2021 11:30:49 11 20
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one more photo shot for boris bloody great hes got the brain of a nat
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04/01/2021 11:32:19 29 8
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and a person who can't spell 'gnat' has got the brains of a ?
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04/01/2021 11:30:57 259 35
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If the virus/situation changes, then the rules need to change.
If he puts the country into lockdown some will complain.
If he doesn’t put the country into lockdown those Same people will still complain.
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04/01/2021 11:43:46 111 102
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complaining is better than dying!!!!
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04/01/2021 12:18:05 16 9
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and cur Starmer will moan and demand, safely in the position of no responsibility.
04/01/2021 12:55:27 2 5
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Agreed the situation changes, what has not changed in the last 12 months is the capacity of the NHS to deal with the problem. If we had triple the capacity then we would not need such stringent lock downs.
04/01/2021 12:59:03 2 5
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Issue has been Ukdoh have failed, u turned, delayed over 12 months now.
Taiwan, SE Asia, ozz, nz.. Far less deaths, covid+ or lockdowns.
Ukdoh fails on covid vac! India 50 million doses stock piled. Ukdoh? 500,000. Vaccinations? Israel 11%, ukdoh 1%.
Ukdoh army of vaccinators? Missing. 2 million doses a week? Missing.
Ukdoh only had 12 months to plan for this!!? Had recent lesson of ppe shortage.
04/01/2021 13:16:21 2 1
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Many will be complaining and ignoring - waste of time locking down in my opinion - you don’t really think that will address anything do you - we have had 2 with no benefit - how many more times would you like to have a go ?
04/01/2021 13:24:15 6 3
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very true. being labour leader is a very easy job now, just suggest the opposite to everything. sometimse you get it right and ignore the rest
04/01/2021 14:20:41 0 1
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Different people will complain, not the same.
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04/01/2021 11:31:23 206 45
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Lockdown and National Mass Inoculation...
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04/01/2021 11:33:16 150 19
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I personally would be happy for that to happen if it helps to bring this virus under control
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04/01/2021 11:40:35 12 22
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There is no inoculation, this isn't small pox. The vaccines may confer immunity, but their main purpose is to keep the bigger symptoms down so less hospital admissions. And I can't wait to see this January's tax receipts to see how damaged the economy is from all the lockdowns.
04/01/2021 12:55:44 1 5
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Mass inoculation has already started and is doing very well due the good planning of the Government.
04/01/2021 12:56:41 0 5
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You idiot lockdown don’t work this is our new normal
04/01/2021 13:09:25 1 7
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I think lockdowns are great, I love them. The government pays me to sit at home and my kids watch tv all day.. it's great! I'm hoping we start to do them for seasonal flew! how cool would that be!!
04/01/2021 13:37:53 0 0
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We already have the second...
04/01/2021 14:46:37 0 0
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im all for it , shut everything , and i mean everything ,
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04/01/2021 11:31:56 973 95
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It's pretty obvious that we're going to see a national school shut down within the next 2 weeks and probably the universities too.

I can't really see what possible advantage there is in delaying it until case rates have risen even higher.
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04/01/2021 11:41:05 698 163
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Perhaps BJ has to wait a while before following follow Keir Starmer's statement yesterday? Can't be seen to be following the opposition's recommended course shortly after it is announced?
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04/01/2021 11:45:45 87 55
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Maybe they are waiting for a certain senior adviser to test his eyesight first before implementing a complete lock-down. Which tier is Barnard Castle in?
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04/01/2021 11:47:45 134 59
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The drivel that emits from the vacuum where Bojo's brain should be is just a flatulence driven cacophony of confusing messages and white noise.
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04/01/2021 11:47:53 42 63
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The educational and medical establishment have been in denial for months about the leading role of schools and universities in spreading the virus
So no wonder the government aware of the potential impact on education and the economy have been reluctant to close schools and universities
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04/01/2021 11:51:41 87 54
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The government don't have a clue, more needles deaths to come because of this useless government. Only concern is how much tax payers money can they give their donors to line there pockets
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04/01/2021 11:53:29 102 16
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It needs to be announced today and implemented tomorrow. All education should be online only. All work should be from home except essential services (food and healthcare). We need to be similar to the first lockdown. These Tiers don't work. A large minority are not paying any attention.
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04/01/2021 11:55:07 61 6
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I'm sad to say you may be right. The kids needs schools and parents need to work. However if this is going to happen, better call it quickly and give teachers a chance to prepare online learning. We cannot let the Spring situation happen again.
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04/01/2021 11:57:41 34 3
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Nudge theory at work. First release unconfirmed and unofficial comments to Twitter. Then, start to openly say “it is likely”. When they inevitable announcement is made, the masses are already in the right mindset to not kick up a fuss.
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04/01/2021 11:58:04 39 7
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The Govt’s own published data has clearly shown schools to be a major source of transmission for months now. They are lying when they say they follow the science.
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04/01/2021 11:59:19 57 13
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Fed up hearing the tired, flimsy argument that children must be in school for the sake of their mental health.

I make no apology for suggesting that children will have far worse mental health problems if they kill one or both of their parents or siblings by bringing Covid home from school.
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04/01/2021 12:03:43 36 10
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I find it somewhat irritating that some people moaning about this wally actually voted for him and would do so again
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04/01/2021 12:07:05 14 5
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They have to be seen to change direction at the absolute last moment otherwise they'll upset the Tory MPs who are anti-lockdown who want to prioritise the economy over everything. As we saw last year the impact of their dithering is a significant reduction in effectiveness of any additional controls as the infection rate has increased during the dithering delay. It's a false economy every time.
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04/01/2021 12:09:49 16 6
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He'll be waiting for Nicola Sturgeon's update today to then put his spin on it and call it a Tory policy.
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04/01/2021 12:10:13 1 6
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by cases I presume you mean positive PCR tests? These are not cases.
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04/01/2021 12:21:56 2 14
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Assuming school kids are in the same danger as 80 yo, which they are not! Symptomatic carriers? Evidence pls. This is 'scare posting'. Pathetic .
04/01/2021 12:25:42 3 11
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All Cause Mortality, according to Public Heath England is LOWER than this time last year ! What do you make of that ?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/948526/Weekly_report_mortality__w53.pdf

Its worth looking around at the real facts and thinking twice before you believe all the damaging hysteria and hype...
04/01/2021 12:27:46 6 4
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Do it now Boris, how many more do want to die in the next two weeks and that includes doctors and nurses, use your common sense Boris.
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04/01/2021 11:32:02 72 24
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Good. About time.
It's not the Government spreading Covid, it's people not following guidelines. And if they don't, well lockdown it is again.
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04/01/2021 11:41:54 35 21
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So just keep repeating the same mistakes and hope for a different outvome?
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04/01/2021 12:10:59 4 4
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Most people are and have been following the guidelines, despite what the finger waggers would like to believe
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04/01/2021 12:15:10 4 4
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The virus spreads itself but is helped by people not being careful and wilfully ignoring preventative measures.

However, when those measures are unclear, not policed and late it's not a surprise people will complain about the government - because it's them who need to be in control and act decisively, which they have not throughout the pandemic.

They just repeat the same errors time and again.
04/01/2021 13:12:47 2 3
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But the government should be clear and enforce the rules, perhaps closing all the shops/supermarkets for a few weeks. Oh wait, even the government don't follow the rules and have to visit castles and stuff...
04/01/2021 23:19:07 0 0
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covid is spreading because it's a virus, it's what they do.
you can't stop it.
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04/01/2021 11:32:05 20 16
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Another serving of eton mess.
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04/01/2021 11:32:14 209 67
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Hate to say it, but we need a full on lockdown again.
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04/01/2021 11:35:22 212 41
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Which the morons will ignore and continue to spread the virus.
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04/01/2021 11:36:40 25 44
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Absolute nonsense, there is no evidence that lockdowns work. If the vulnerable isolate the rest of us can take sensible precautions and get on with our lives.
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04/01/2021 11:40:54 11 22
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Because they work so well...
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04/01/2021 12:17:55 4 10
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Agree. A lockdown as suggested by Matt Hancock who has done an exceptional job during this period. The inner-party will ensure every British citizen will be supported through UBI from summer-2021 and beyond. The Build back better agenda will strip civil liberties further to only the bare essentials. This is for the greater good.
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04/01/2021 12:11:56 3 5
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Why? Can you provide evidence it will be of benefit?
04/01/2021 13:16:32 1 1
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I think lockdowns are great, I love them. The government pays me to sit at home and my kids watch tv all day.. it's great! I'm hoping we start to do them for seasonal flew! how cool would that be!! And when we get back to a new 'normal' they wont be able to fine me when i take them out for a holiday, i'll just say i'm scared of the virus lol
04/01/2021 13:18:22 2 0
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Pointless- only a small minority are following the rules now and that will not change
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04/01/2021 11:30:49 11 20
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one more photo shot for boris bloody great hes got the brain of a nat
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04/01/2021 11:32:19 29 8
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and a person who can't spell 'gnat' has got the brains of a ?
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04/01/2021 11:37:06 5 6
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Perhaps rather than talking about flying insects with aquatic larvae the actual subject referred to is followers of Ms Sturgeon? I know she has a loyal following amongst SNP voters, is better at press conferences, but according t6o the facts and figures there isn't much difference in the competence of handling the pandemic between Scotland and England.
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04/01/2021 11:32:26 55 15
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Covid and the pandemic have never before been experienced by the world before this last year.

Unfortunately the general public think that "they know best" well sorry to say they don't.

Our politicians in different parts of the UK impose differing short term solutions that don't work, mainly because some of the public don't think it applies to them and ignore rules and advice,
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04/01/2021 11:33:18 18 10
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The only real solution is vaccination so get in line and wait your turn!
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04/01/2021 11:35:51 6 8
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We have had pandemics before maybe not this one but this country even did a [andemic exercise two years ago and worte the book on how we should react. BoZo ignored it. Inept clown.
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04/01/2021 11:36:52 15 4
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Exactly. I'm sick of hearing people blaming the government all the time when you see hoards of people together ignoring all restrictions. A few weeks ago a politician dared to mention personal responsibility, so why aren't people exercising that?
04/01/2021 13:11:42 0 1
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Really??
Shame it is only a temperature pistol. Removed
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04/01/2021 11:32:41 40 11
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He should have locked down already. In the last five days we have lead the world in new cases. 3 in first place, 1 in second and 1 in thrid place. This is despite some countries having many more people. Deaths will be two/three weeks behind the new surge of this Emglish variant.
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04/01/2021 11:33:56 17 4
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That’s despite a lag which means we won’t know the full picture until mid week!
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04/01/2021 11:32:53 714 178
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Dither and delay whilst he prepares a slogan and tests the waters for opinions. This isn’t leadership. People are dying and hospitals are collapsing whilst the usual trio of Johnson, Hancock and Williamson bluster and u turn
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04/01/2021 11:40:31 392 85
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That is exactly what his "leadership" style amounts to
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04/01/2021 11:47:36 11 39
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'Testing the water' is an important part of leadership. Otherwise people complain about lack of consultation.
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04/01/2021 11:53:13 36 7
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He was always a populist, saying what people wanted to hear and not being careful to make sure it was in their best interests.
Now, when the outcome of his actions or lack thereof can be measured so quickly and there are no easy choices, it all comes unraveled.
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04/01/2021 12:10:05 16 23
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Dither and Delay, yet in the same breath everyone moans about not being given time, the government reacting too quickly.

You can't have it both ways

Labour and Unions are using this as a political ball game, anyone can say "hey let's lock everything down tomorrow", then sit there and scream murder "kids are missing out on education, people losing their jobs, there's no money", etc.
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04/01/2021 12:18:49 17 4
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You can say that again.

The scientific advice I've seen here, and from abroad suggests 3 main vectors at the moment
1) Schools (100+ is not a bubble)
2) Takeaways (can survive on cardboard, food+containers)
3) Places of work/worship

Nothing is being done about those. People are ignoring tier 4 because it's just 'tier 3 with Gyms shut' this 'leadership' means nobody takes them seriously anymore.
04/01/2021 12:25:10 11 7
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And all because the fed up public are mixing freely, not obeying the rules, having parties and raves. Until theris total compliance, lockdowns are useless. And in the UK, many of our ill disciplined young adults will not comply. Others just don't, for one reason or another. THAT'S the problem.
04/01/2021 12:29:38 9 12
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It's no different an approach than any of the divolved administrations. No need to single out Johnson.

Sir Kier would be no different. It is all very well saying do this, do that, in the media however he doesn't have to face the consequences. If he did, his actual response would be much the same.
04/01/2021 12:30:35 2 10
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Hospitals are collapsing, you mean they're actually falling down?? Stop being so melodramatic and tedious. Typical Liebour comment, probably a remoaner too judging by the over the top comment!!
04/01/2021 12:31:43 2 5
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if the PM announced it from tomorrow, you would slag him off saying it was a knee jerk reaction, if he announces it in a weeks time, he would be too slow in reacting, he is in a no win situation but you manage to make it worse with your expert views on the subject, if you are such an expert, apply for a job with the government and lets see how you get on, Armchair warrior with no idea what to do.
04/01/2021 12:43:40 2 1
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Remove the clown and save lives
04/01/2021 12:48:58 1 3
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What rubbish you write .it is only five days since the new areas were put into higher tiers and a similar amount of time since the other areas were put into stronger measures,together with the holidays which have a delayed reaction to the figures.It is wise to wait a few days to see the true figures to stop an overkill
04/01/2021 12:51:13 1 7
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On the other side of the coin, the economy is tanking, businesses are going to the wall, people being made redundant/losing their homes/committing suicide in droves due to depression etc.If those things didnt matter, yeah shut everything down, But they do. I consider the balance is all wrong & not enough importance is being given to the economy. We need to get all open & accept a higher death toll
04/01/2021 12:51:26 2 2
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Done more u turns than a marching band.
04/01/2021 12:53:07 1 1
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Possibly from Hands, face, space to Wait, die, cry
04/01/2021 12:58:09 2 2
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Fiddling while Rome burns. BOJO and his team have shown themselves to be completely incompetent. Failure is no cause to be fired or to resign when everyone's expectations are so low. You wait, next we will run out of syringes; unprecedented to need so many when we have been hoping for mass vaccinations for months? What no planning?
04/01/2021 13:24:31 0 0
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"STAY" "AT" "HOME" - There's a 3 word slogan for him to use....
04/01/2021 13:38:49 0 1
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While useless KS's advice is? At least Tony Blair managed to come up with a sensible suggestion - I haven 't heard one from KS yet.
04/01/2021 13:50:42 0 1
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People will always die
04/01/2021 14:00:38 0 0
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Yep, we should have voted for Corbyn, then we would have had real leadership, wouldn't we?
04/01/2021 14:05:16 0 2
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Way to blindly swallow the propaganda. While the nightingales are still empty the NHS is not collapsing! Its talk like this that is the trouble. Get off twitter, Facebook, BBC. Research some facts.
04/01/2021 14:11:04 1 0
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Boris Johnson, the new Nero.

And to think he's wannabe Churchill.

Funny how life turns out sometimes isn't it?
04/01/2021 14:48:07 0 0
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It is a failure of clear communication.
Although, the green smoke advert is quite good.
The success measurement for BoJo and co. should not be newspaper inches and not TV minutes.
04/01/2021 14:50:30 0 0
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My god you would have us all in camps with our covid passports.
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04/01/2021 11:33:05 124 17
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Lets talk some more before taking action....again.
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04/01/2021 11:57:51 166 31
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Just listen to BoJo, and don’t look at the people who are teetering on the brink of psychological collapse.
Or the people who can’t see their GP
Or the people in pain who can’t have their knee or hips replaced.
Or the people who aren’t getting cancer treatment.
Or the countless others the NHS is failing.
And don’t look at the livelihoods ruined.
Or the mountain of debt bequeathed to our kids.
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04/01/2021 11:59:00 18 21
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Every day we delay, means that the cases go up and the restrictions we do eventually implement, will have to last for longer!

If the restrictions are "inevitable" we might as well implement them right now and get it over with!
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04/01/2021 11:31:23 206 45
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Lockdown and National Mass Inoculation...
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04/01/2021 11:33:16 150 19
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I personally would be happy for that to happen if it helps to bring this virus under control
04/01/2021 13:25:16 1 0
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It's inevitable. May as well start now.
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04/01/2021 11:33:16 691 24
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Tougher restrictions for who? All those celebrities and footballers who don't think the current rules apply to them and their families?
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04/01/2021 11:45:17 377 133
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By celebrities, do you mean Government Ministers and members of the Royal Family?
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04/01/2021 11:47:49 40 2
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Yes, simple fine them in Millions then it will make them think.
You wrote that yesterday ... put a sock in it. Removed
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04/01/2021 12:02:57 34 6
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Yeh, I'm sure it's celebrities and ministers cramming KFC and B&m car parks, or queuing outside the range, all to buy stuff they can live without.
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04/01/2021 12:07:56 55 3
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With the footballers the FA simply needs to grow a pair and hand out lengthy bans to those players. After all, they are bringing the game into disrepute.
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04/01/2021 12:20:43 27 1
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Agreed, but look in any high street, local homes, etc. and you see flaunting of the rules on a massive scale.

It's laughable and disgraceful the amount of self righteous bleating that goes on whilst the public at large do exactly the same.

What's the point of having a FULL Lockdown, whatever that is, if everyone ignores it.
04/01/2021 12:58:47 1 1
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Nope, just the majority that do not have private healthcare
04/01/2021 13:00:32 1 1
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Politicians too
04/01/2021 13:41:18 2 0
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It's only those people that get caught because they are in the public eye.

I can confirm from my own neighbourhood that there are plenty of others who don't think the rules apply to them, including my own next door neighbour (who works in a factory and isn't, as far as I am aware, on the books of Arsenal or in the cast of Eastenders).
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04/01/2021 11:32:26 55 15
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Covid and the pandemic have never before been experienced by the world before this last year.

Unfortunately the general public think that "they know best" well sorry to say they don't.

Our politicians in different parts of the UK impose differing short term solutions that don't work, mainly because some of the public don't think it applies to them and ignore rules and advice,
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04/01/2021 11:33:18 18 10
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The only real solution is vaccination so get in line and wait your turn!
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04/01/2021 11:33:25 107 15
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Forget the tiering, it's not working. Numbers are evidence to this.

Either impose and enforce a full lockdown or leave us to get on with it.
04/01/2021 12:43:36 54 12
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Tiering works if us the people followed the rules. We all need to comply instead of ignoring. Yes we are all tired of it, unfortunately on a daily basis across the UK there are multiple examples in the news where people are not following the rules. These examples are the tip of the iceberg, therefore irrelevant of government policy we either all comply, or the death toll will continue to rise.
04/01/2021 12:59:30 2 3
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Tiering does work but you have to allow time for it work.
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04/01/2021 11:33:34 19 24
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Whatever he does, the likes of Keir etc will still protest.
It's all so very tiresome
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04/01/2021 11:37:45 9 4
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If you're tired of democratic opposition, why not try North Korea?
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04/01/2021 11:33:37 35 29
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Time for roadblocks, police and the army to enforce the law, strict curfews and prison sentences and criminal records for the people that refuse to follow them!
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04/01/2021 11:39:43 14 19
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Yeah and I suppose you'd like to shoot people for not wearing a mask in Tescos next. You hide away I'm certainly not.
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04/01/2021 11:39:52 3 6
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Is this a parody?
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04/01/2021 11:42:33 2 3
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There are not enough soldiers and police to do so.
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04/01/2021 11:47:24 9 7
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Are you really calling for the army to take control of the civilian population? You know what we call those sorts of countries?
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04/01/2021 11:53:32 5 4
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Nicola sturgeon... is this you commenting???. totalitarian much!!
Should we also chain people to their couches so they can't go to work ad watch half the nations kids starve to death to save a handful of 90 year olds
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04/01/2021 12:00:20 2 5
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It can't come soon enough
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04/01/2021 11:33:37 387 78
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8 week lockdown, close the schools and the borders to all but essential freight, adequately compensate the businesses and vaccinate as many as possible.
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04/01/2021 11:38:23 145 410
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Oh get a bloody grip!
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04/01/2021 11:41:54 5 6
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Freight will not be coming by lorry, or at least will be much reduced due to the need for £60 negative covid test to get back across the channel.
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04/01/2021 11:49:15 15 12
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Define ‘essential’
What’s essential to you may be different to what is essential for someone else. Would suspect it’s all essential
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04/01/2021 12:06:39 67 63
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All for a virus that was present in 388 people in England who died aged under 60 in a nine month period, who had no known underlying conditions, out of a population of 63 million. Hysterical much? How about we managed the risk and get on with life!
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04/01/2021 12:08:31 23 38
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Lock up everyone or just the 10-15% who are most at risk and getting the vaccine the quickest? Looks like we are punishing the majority to save the favoured minority. Fine - as long as that favoured minority now pay for all the economic damage being wrought to save them - but most have nothing to pay with.
690
04/01/2021 12:12:42 26 23
bbc
‘Compensate’ the government is broke, the budget deficit was £400bn for 2020 (8x 2019 which was a horrific year for the fiscal discipline itself). Hyperinflation is going to rip through the Western world and I for one am glad. People need to realise what they’ve done. The total obsession over Covid and spreading globalist propaganda is unacceptable.
04/01/2021 12:28:14 10 16
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Ok and after 2 months back to square 1.
What Boris should do is to sack this corrupted scientist and the Swedish way.
Corrupted scientist =conflict of interest.
Google each of them and you can find out more your self.
04/01/2021 12:37:30 16 6
bbc
You can't keep running and hiding. And there is no money tree for business.
04/01/2021 12:46:11 1 3
bbc
That’s the answer! ??
04/01/2021 12:49:26 6 1
bbc
Freight issue could be tackled by swapping drivers at borders?
EU tractor for EU section, UK tractor for UK section.
04/01/2021 12:51:37 8 9
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So the NHS has decades of underfunding as we try and repay the debt of all these lockdowns, net result as many life's lost just spread over a longer period of time. Answer is to stop trying to save the life's of people in their 80s and 90s, many of which don't know what day it is. Palliative care is all that is required for most Covid patients, old people die, lets stop playing god!
04/01/2021 12:55:05 2 4
bbc
Another shake of the Magic Money Tree
04/01/2021 13:00:57 2 3
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But everyone’s view of essential is different. Sanitary products are essential to women, but not men for example. And where is this magic money tree that you seem to think exists.
04/01/2021 13:02:36 3 3
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That will be £1 Trillion please. Unbelievable naivety of how business works.
04/01/2021 13:14:24 0 3
bbc
And what planet are you from exactly ??
Mup
04/01/2021 13:20:01 0 1
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The magic money tree died of Covid in May...
04/01/2021 13:26:29 0 0
bbc
compensate the businesses for what? Welcome to the world of capitalism. Are you some sort of Marxist?
04/01/2021 13:49:59 0 0
bbc
Adequately compensate the businesses with what? In case you haven’t noticed we are all but bankrupt. Borrowing is over 100% of GDP
04/01/2021 13:52:04 0 0
bbc
You forgot about waving a magic wand
14
04/01/2021 11:32:41 40 11
bbc
He should have locked down already. In the last five days we have lead the world in new cases. 3 in first place, 1 in second and 1 in thrid place. This is despite some countries having many more people. Deaths will be two/three weeks behind the new surge of this Emglish variant.
24
04/01/2021 11:33:56 17 4
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That’s despite a lag which means we won’t know the full picture until mid week!
25
04/01/2021 11:34:02 36 11
bbc
Tuesday is U-turn day, patience people.
434
04/01/2021 12:01:46 17 6
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Not u turn changing circumstances mean change in rules as it should be.
26
04/01/2021 11:34:17 22 19
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Total 100% lockdown required today.
78
04/01/2021 11:39:18 5 7
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Rubber mattress toppers are on aisle 3 mate
27
04/01/2021 11:34:44 27 15
bbc
Lets guess schools will now close, yet another u turn by this useless incompetent government, the reason we are where we are today is because off their refusal to acknowledge covid is an issue in schools.
407
04/01/2021 12:00:34 10 5
bbc
U turn ?? rules need to change as more information about the virus is known and the spread of the virus. Any government would do the same. The reason we are where we are today is because the public have not taken this seriously from the start, raves, house party’s, crowded beaches, demonstrations etc. People are still not taking it seriously after 10 months new year parties etc.
28
04/01/2021 11:34:57 39 9
bbc
Confidence in all these restrictions is falling because there is no clear exit strategy to lift them all. There need to be legally binding criteria set that once met see them lifted, so we all know what to aspire for and a much needed boost to deteriorating mental health is offered.
72
04/01/2021 11:38:30 31 10
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100% this. We are only ever given 'tighter restrictions' and never any hope. Even with the vaccine, the government haven't given us an end date to this utter madness.
257
04/01/2021 11:53:00 2 4
bbc
Well that depends on the public following the rules
04/01/2021 13:16:37 1 2
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My understanding is that the vaccines which are now being distributed, are our exit strategy. This is why we have to collectively take a deep breath and batten down - 2 or 3 months of putting others before ourselves could go a long way to putting this pandemic to bed. How tragic it is that people are being infected and are suffering/dying when the vaccine is literally round the corner.
04/01/2021 13:48:22 1 1
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There is a very clear exit strategy - it's called "get vaccinated" and then they won't be needed. Restrictions must continue and be stronger until this happens. Records of those refusing to be vaccinated should also be kept.
2
04/01/2021 11:29:57 2 13
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first comment yay
Nope; loser!
30
04/01/2021 11:35:03 143 35
bbc
Looking at rising hospital admissions and rising cases, the decision is clear. If the aim is to protect the NHS, then another lockdown is needed.
53
04/01/2021 11:37:10 132 151
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The aim should be to protect the vulnerable; The NHS should protect US.

The rest of us should be allowed to go about our normal lives before lockdown kills us all.
61
04/01/2021 11:37:46 10 27
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No it isn't! They don't work.
914
04/01/2021 12:13:28 22 23
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The NHS is just as busy as it is every winter, however it has more staff absent because they are isolating as a result of over-sensitive PCR tests. Stop testing and this panic goes away.
04/01/2021 12:33:12 16 13
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why do we have to suffer for the gov running the nhs into the ground.they have been in same position every year.look 3 yrs ago and you will see same pressures and no covid.The figures dont add up.PEOPLE DYING WITH COVID IS NOT PEOPLE DYING OF COVID.GET A GRIP.People are being plunged into poverty and all because this Gov has one agenda and wont change their strategy which is clearly not working.
04/01/2021 12:37:01 6 6
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The aim is to privatise our NHS.
04/01/2021 13:19:22 0 2
bbc
The NHS is a busted flush - one thing this proves is it needs to be replaced by something that actually works
04/01/2021 14:13:32 0 0
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Nope.
04/01/2021 15:05:30 0 1
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Why are our rights as humans contingent upon the functioning of the health service? The NHS is creaking under the weight of people consuming too much food, alcohol, and generally behaving in sub-optimal ways to ensure their best health. We don't allow the state to dictate their every move on that basis. That logic should never have been allowed
31
04/01/2021 11:35:09 30 8
bbc
With the speed that infection rates are shooting up across the country why is Boris dithering about introducing the new restrictions?

The coming lockdown is inevitable, delaying it even for a few days just means even more stress on the NHS a few weeks from now.
32
04/01/2021 11:35:19 6 3
bbc
I thought it was the Government holding a gun to the head of the NHS not the other way round
58
04/01/2021 11:37:38 3 2
bbc
It is the Govt in charge! If it doesn't feel it is upto the task, then it should step aside & call a GE!??
10
04/01/2021 11:32:14 209 67
bbc
Hate to say it, but we need a full on lockdown again.
33
04/01/2021 11:35:22 212 41
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Which the morons will ignore and continue to spread the virus.
163
04/01/2021 11:46:38 8 4
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The Cabinet perhaps.
922
04/01/2021 12:14:46 4 3
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A lot of people have had enough of this now, are right on the edge mental health wise, and are just not going to lock down again; and will take there chances. R isn't going to go below 1 again now whatever happens sooner that is accepted the better.
04/01/2021 12:27:15 1 3
bbc
Just because folk don’t agree with you, it doesn’t make them morons. We are all divided on this. I’d never call you a moron just because you believe everything they are telling you.
ET
04/01/2021 13:23:55 1 0
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Stadiums are empty. Take them there. Leave them. Shelter, toilets, running water. What more do they need?
3
04/01/2021 11:30:47 368 34
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Maybe it would be better to enforce the current measures before introducing tougher ones?
34
04/01/2021 11:35:25 101 48
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Agree but if you start trying to do that its likely to cause social unrest so by introducing tougher measures nationwide and strict enforcement the vast majority will comply.
372
04/01/2021 11:59:13 13 20
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Minimum fine of £250 and 7 days porridge for second offenders .
You would be surprised how many would suddenly follow the rules.
£50 spot fine for not wearing a mask in a public enclosed space would help as well. See lots of folk not using masks, especially in the usual suspects corner shops. Fine the shop worker at the till £50 spot fine ! they will soon refuse to serve anyone not masked up
636
04/01/2021 12:10:13 1 7
bbc
Yes. The people can not be trusted. Collectivism is the only thing that can redeem British society now. Build back better will ensure civil liberties do not interfere with the more important global agendas ever again.
655
04/01/2021 12:10:59 8 2
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It is time for enforcement and personal responsibility. More focussed action/enforcement on where the outbreaks are. National lockdowns DO NOT give that focus. Response at a national ie average R/case level, is ‘one size fits none’ approach, which is why they don’t work for a country as large and varied as UK.
04/01/2021 12:52:20 2 1
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Wise words I think. Only additional comment is that this government bust its flush with DC and now we have Gavin Williamson who makes Chris Grayling look like the most successful politician ever,
04/01/2021 13:36:03 0 0
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Load of tosh. If there's going to be social unrest by enforcing the current measures, there's certainly going to be social unrest if tougher measures and tougher enforcement are proposed.
04/01/2021 14:33:19 0 0
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,nice theory, but there will always be rebels.
Fines of £10k for organising parties/ raves, but still they. come.
35
Kat
04/01/2021 11:35:28 126 17
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"Due course"? What does that mean? Unfortunately, we have been asking the second question too much about Johnson's comments in the last year.

Get a grip or get out.
04/01/2021 14:13:05 10 7
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He is right to think about things before acting. When he acts quickly, people complain he is not in control. When he stops to consider, the same people say he is dithering.

One things is for sure, he will not be getting out any time soon.
3
04/01/2021 11:30:47 368 34
bbc
Maybe it would be better to enforce the current measures before introducing tougher ones?
36
04/01/2021 11:35:38 25 1
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No Enforcers these days, lots of talk but no enforcers.
37
04/01/2021 11:35:45 28 6
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The same dithering which has characterized this government's insipid approach to COVID. Cases and deaths are skyrocketing and they acknowledge that tighter restrictions are needed. Instead of lurching from one all-too-late reactionary policy to another, we desperately need to be proactive and get on top of this rather than constantly delaying at the cost of time and (more importantly) lives.
79
04/01/2021 11:39:18 11 14
bbc
Deaths are impossible to analyse because they aren't covid specific. The figures we are given are for any reason. Is that none or all that are because of covid? If the real figures were published there would be outcry. If allowed see my reply to this
38
04/01/2021 11:35:49 39 8
bbc
The government needs to plan ahead rather than constantly react to the situation. Introducing new rules every other day just causes confusion and uncertainty. Come up with a plan and see it through for at least a few weeks.
66
04/01/2021 11:38:06 22 16
bbc
For good or bad the government very much waits for the recommendations and scientific update from SAGE before then responding. I actually think this is the right approach rather than grandstanding, but it does come across as a knee jerk reaction constantly.
76
04/01/2021 11:39:01 5 2
bbc
If you found yourself in a swamp how much detailed forward planning would you do?
230
04/01/2021 11:50:58 2 8
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How on earth can you plan ahead with a virus we do not know a lot about. As the virus spreads and mutates rules will have to change what is confusing about that. Just follow the rules it is not hard
12
04/01/2021 11:32:26 55 15
bbc
Covid and the pandemic have never before been experienced by the world before this last year.

Unfortunately the general public think that "they know best" well sorry to say they don't.

Our politicians in different parts of the UK impose differing short term solutions that don't work, mainly because some of the public don't think it applies to them and ignore rules and advice,
39
04/01/2021 11:35:51 6 8
bbc
We have had pandemics before maybe not this one but this country even did a [andemic exercise two years ago and worte the book on how we should react. BoZo ignored it. Inept clown.
164
04/01/2021 11:46:43 13 4
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Previous pandemics did not coincide with a generation of 'entitled' citizens who refuse to listen to what they are being asked to do and carry on regardless.
40
04/01/2021 11:35:56 7 7
bbc
You know if you make a mistake that doesn't work, it happens. What you must do is learn from it and not repeat it not just once but twice and almost thrice, expecting a different outcome. Well it's obvious to me and many others that lockdowns, fire breaks and various tiers just haven't worked . Not just this Government, but many others though seem oblivious to it. Time for a MAJOR rethink.
41
04/01/2021 11:36:03 10 8
bbc
Flipmode-people will protest at Killer Johnson because he is the worst PM ever. What is tiresome is people like you defending him.
178
04/01/2021 11:47:37 10 4
bbc
What is really tiresome is people like you who blame the Government. The public are to blame for the spread of this virus by not taking it seriously back in March, not following the rules and using common sense which as a country is in short supply. Trying to keep the economy going schools open etc is a balance which anyone in government would do however the public just moan at every opportunity.
42
04/01/2021 11:36:11 220 16
bbc
"In due course..."? How much worse does it have to get before they are introduced?!
486
04/01/2021 12:03:51 151 20
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Every day we delay means that the cases go up and the restrictions that we do eventually implement will have to last longer!

If new restrictions are "inevitable" then bring them in straight away and let's just get this over with!

Every day that we delay hurts the economy and costs more lives!

Boris won't do anything until he's sure things are bad enough for the public to agree with him though!!
502
04/01/2021 12:04:22 4 2
bbc
Lockdowns make poor people poorer. Guess who are the most likely to die?
Poor people.
559
04/01/2021 12:06:51 3 1
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I don’t think they actually care
04/01/2021 13:02:22 4 1
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Well BJ has to flap, dither, mumble, thump the desk, air Afew times. Hint at.. Something. Promise.. Something else U turn Afew times. And announce decision 1 or 2 months after its needed.
World beating.. Incompetence.
Same Ukdoh will be making decisions post brexit.. With no 12 month notice of an issue!!!
43
04/01/2021 11:36:11 580 52
bbc
Due course is now. I really wish he would stop trying to be a populist and start being a leader. If he can't do that, move over and let somebody in who can.
82
04/01/2021 11:39:27 407 52
bbc
Absolutely. Right throughout this pandemic the government has reacted too slowly and done everything too late. Not only does this lead to higher infection rates and deaths but also more economic damage.
194
04/01/2021 11:47:41 17 2
bbc
It just reminds me of Jim Trott from Vicar of Dibley "no, no, no, no, yes"!
483
04/01/2021 12:03:42 17 2
bbc
He's not capable and won't step aside.

Best you can hope for is listen to what he says and interpret it for yourself, because he'll happily let the media run away with with a positive spin. His better by Easter comment for example - doesn't mean normal by Easter
603
04/01/2021 12:08:55 13 3
bbc
He’s a terrible populist too - full of bluff and bluster, says a few good things and then does precisely nothing that people actually want. Populists are meant to represent the interests of the people - all we have is a standard Tory with a few new ways of saying things.
04/01/2021 12:35:03 13 1
bbc
Telling him to stop his populist blather is like telling a pig not to grunt
04/01/2021 12:48:31 0 1
bbc
Great idea....trouble is finding that ‘someone’
04/01/2021 13:17:02 0 2
bbc
Brexit done now let a leader in!
04/01/2021 13:23:00 3 1
bbc
He is a populist, that's all he will ever be. He has no more leadership than a middle ranking manager. Charisma? Plenty. Substance? Short Supply.

An old favourite phrase I enjoy applies here:-

Fur coat and no knickers.
04/01/2021 13:46:20 0 0
bbc
Is there anyone else who can, if so please enlighten us all
04/01/2021 13:49:09 0 1
bbc
When he did make decisions, there was an uproar from other politicians and business and the health service. Dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't.
04/01/2021 14:02:16 0 0
bbc
He has an 80 seat majority, has just negotiated a successful Brexit trade deal, and will be in power until at least 2024. Hard luck.
44
04/01/2021 11:36:30 52 11
bbc
The government have had long enough to realise that regarding coronavirus the country is crying out for a clear strategy rather than this daily flip flopping, confusion and chaos.
10
04/01/2021 11:32:14 209 67
bbc
Hate to say it, but we need a full on lockdown again.
45
04/01/2021 11:36:40 25 44
bbc
Absolute nonsense, there is no evidence that lockdowns work. If the vulnerable isolate the rest of us can take sensible precautions and get on with our lives.
135
04/01/2021 11:44:19 22 4
bbc
Haha, you used sensible in the same context as the British public
554
04/01/2021 12:06:31 12 12
bbc
Do you have the virus? No. Do I have the virus? No. Why is this? Is it (a) because your fairy godmother is protecting us? Or (b) because locking down and other containment measures have kept it away from us?
641
04/01/2021 12:10:26 5 2
bbc
But, you see, "the rest of us" aren't taking sensible precautions, are we? Obviously...
667
04/01/2021 12:11:33 3 5
bbc
There's lots of evidence. Just look at the difference between countries. Especially now we can compare our winter to the winter in the southern hemisphere.
694
04/01/2021 12:12:50 15 3
bbc
A lockdown will buy time, it is well known that they don't "work" as a permanent solution. They are designed to prevent the NHS becoming overwhelmed. In an ideal world the rest of us would take sensible precautions, sadly there are too many morons out there who won't, Henderson we are where we are.
04/01/2021 12:30:04 4 2
bbc
Lockdowns do work at providing breathing space for hospitals to treat and for vaccinations to be given. 'The vulnerable' are already isolating Those who arrogantly think they are not vulnerable are the problem.
04/01/2021 13:23:38 0 2
bbc
How did you manage to come up with that fantasy? You might not die (still not guaranteed), but you would have whole workforces off sick for 2-6 weeks, plus a large amount of people still end up hospitalised even if they live, and 10% are still unwell months later (and those are generally the younger crowd.)
04/01/2021 13:25:23 0 0
bbc
Some people have underlying conditions that make them vulnerable and aren't even aware of it. How do you separate people like that?
04/01/2021 13:37:43 0 1
bbc
how will the vulnerable get their groceries? If there's someone in the queue who has covid but don't know it, they could spread it. They could get things delivered - what if the delivery people are unknowingly infected? I'm medically vulnerable at only 19.

How would you feel if you were in my position and someone said 'everyone can do whatever they like, the vulnerable give up everything'?
Leo
04/01/2021 14:29:20 0 1
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I agree, I mean a total lockdown (which the population actually complied with) didn't completely halt the spread of covid in NZ now - did it?

Yes, this is sarcasm, but I find that reason is lost on those who are so willfully ignorant.
46
04/01/2021 11:36:45 11 9
bbc
Tougher measures need to be coupled with a real risk of being caught breaking them. That will only work if the tougher measures reduce the traffic on our roads substantially.

Schools may not be the super-spreaders some claim, but closing them will reduce the number of journeys many people make.

When traffic levels are low-enough, the Police should then start random checks.
12
04/01/2021 11:32:26 55 15
bbc
Covid and the pandemic have never before been experienced by the world before this last year.

Unfortunately the general public think that "they know best" well sorry to say they don't.

Our politicians in different parts of the UK impose differing short term solutions that don't work, mainly because some of the public don't think it applies to them and ignore rules and advice,
47
04/01/2021 11:36:52 15 4
bbc
Exactly. I'm sick of hearing people blaming the government all the time when you see hoards of people together ignoring all restrictions. A few weeks ago a politician dared to mention personal responsibility, so why aren't people exercising that?
48
04/01/2021 11:36:55 931 93
bbc
I am no fan of lockdown but would back a 4-8 week FULL lockdown, borders closed the lot. At the same time roll the vaccine out and let's finally put an end to this saga its getting tedious
160
04/01/2021 11:46:26 319 716
bbc
The first one was 10 weeks and didn't work, and you want another?
265
04/01/2021 11:53:20 47 13
bbc
Your 4 -8 week assumption is that we can vaccinate around 30 million people in that short time.
That vaccination program is dependant on the manufacture and delivery of 60 million doses all given within that 8 week period.
I suggest this is not possible.
311
04/01/2021 11:55:40 170 23
bbc
Yeah too bad the typical conspiracy nuts are out in force. There was hundreds of them outside St Thomas' Hospital shouting about how covid is a hoax. Imagine dying in the hospital while people outside are shouting about how your illness doesn't exist. Chuck the lot in jail, they can infect eachother.
354
04/01/2021 11:58:24 25 4
bbc
I only hope your logic is right. The November one was a total failure. Im not confident we can scale up the vaccinations to the level BJ is promising.
361
04/01/2021 11:58:42 16 29
bbc
Lockdowns are a delaying action to 'flatten the curve' as was explained from Day 1. We have tried them in various forms & they are not working so try something else. Running the same experiment & hoping for different results is a sign of madness (or desperation). What harm can it do to ditch the lockdowns & tier system, continue the vaccine roll-out & try to get back to some normality.
404
04/01/2021 12:00:23 13 2
bbc
How are we going to import the food we need if we close the borders? 10,000 trucks per day use Dover alone
412
04/01/2021 12:00:42 9 19
bbc
you mean like the one we had last March when everybody but Govt. and their snivel servants adhered to it? yep great idea cos now they have the new rules and laws in place that will enable them to legally break it whilst we suffer again
475
04/01/2021 12:03:21 7 7
bbc
Can you pay my mortgage then?
510
04/01/2021 12:04:43 9 5
bbc
Let me guess, you are perhaps retired, able to work from home, and / or have no childcare to consider?
662
04/01/2021 12:11:29 5 5
bbc
It is time we got serious about this, the conspiracy whack jobs or man children who just want the pubs open again are making life miserable for the rest of us. It is time to start arresting people, and calling out those we see flaunt the restrictions. There is no medical reason to not wear a mask. If you have breathing difficulties you would not be out in the first place.
725
04/01/2021 12:14:19 1 1
bbc
if you clearit in this country it is still going to come in from abroad ,or do we close down for ever ,isolate and vacinate for me and be aware
742
04/01/2021 12:14:47 7 7
bbc
FULL lockdown? And then what? No electricity, no gas, no food, no medicine? All this nonsense about lockdowns is just that: nonsense. There will always be people who have to work in order for the rest of society to not die of cold or starvation.
761
04/01/2021 12:15:37 6 2
bbc
It will only work if EVERYONE actually accepts the rules, not use the "but I'm only...." attitude we keep seeing, popping out for a quick coffee at the local Costa/McDonalds, meeting up with friends for a quick chat, pop off to a beauty spot for a necessary?? walk, etc"
762
04/01/2021 12:15:41 3 1
bbc
Problem is, folk do not follow the rules however draconian they be. Some think they are exempt!
49
04/01/2021 11:36:57 4 7
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Compulsory vaccination is just around the corner
112
04/01/2021 11:42:24 0 2
bbc
Provided i don't have to sign a waiver if I have long term health effects because of it..
227
04/01/2021 11:50:48 0 2
bbc
I'm beginning to think that's likely at least by the back door - i.e. the Government won't make them mandatory but will argue it's reasonable for businesses / venues to enquire as to your status and act accordingly.

Same with the SA variant - is that being flagged now to push lockdown, apply pressure to take vaccines or as an early signal that the lockdown/control can'r be released too soon.
50
04/01/2021 11:36:59 178 26
bbc
"COVID Safe" schools no such thing. Schools, especially with this new variant, will become super spreaders. Its not just about how safe children are but about how safe it is for school workers and the childrens families they take it home to, many of whom are vulnerable. Stope the spread of the virus they say then refuse to do something that many of their own scientists say will make it far worse.
276
04/01/2021 11:53:58 120 13
bbc
I agree that keeping schools open is a big problem. But it's very easy to forget that for some children, schools are literally a lifeline. They may be in danger if not at school (eg abandoned with no supervision), their only decent food may be at school, etc. Even if not, then their education (or lack of) is a massive issue that will have long-term consequences.

There are no easy answers.
337
04/01/2021 11:57:11 8 2
bbc
Yep. The kids follow the rules at school and as soon as they get out of the gates....Covid Party!
508
04/01/2021 12:04:35 3 15
bbc
No scientific evidence for your assertions - quite the opposite.
ET
04/01/2021 13:26:19 2 1
bbc
“Covid safe” means some sort of chemical warfare suit, filtered air system. Social distancing, open windows, wiping surfaces is not Covid safe.

If schools are indeed “Covid safe” why isn’t what they’re doing being done everywhere? We’d all be “Covid safe” then.

Complete and utter b*s.
04/01/2021 14:30:30 1 0
bbc
Schools have always been open since March for these vulnerable children
04/01/2021 15:16:54 0 0
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I'm waiting for the outcry that the government have not funded orphanages enough. Ah, it was the schools choice to open and infect parents not the government. So no fault there. They will have to suffer the year+ waiting times for child mental health services which are accessed via charties!
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04/01/2021 11:37:02 291 36
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Schools should have carried on teaching into summer when cases were lower and windows thrown open etc. so they could close now. Everyone saw this happening in winter, let alone with the new variant.
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04/01/2021 11:54:17 169 48
bbc
Perhaps they were lower because the kids weren't in school?
288
04/01/2021 11:54:29 13 29
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What I find particularly galling is that had Covid originated in Europe; no one would have considered quarantining the healthy as a response.
But Social Media watched events in China and demanded that Europe did the same, and our weak kneed politicians duly obliged.
The CCP must have looked on in bemused wonderment.
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04/01/2021 11:57:12 28 4
bbc
I don't get it. If there's "no question" that the restrictions will be tightened. Why not do it now and get it over with?

Have we not learnt from the 1st lockdown that every day we delay implementing restrictions, means that the restrictions will have to last for longer!
826
04/01/2021 12:18:59 18 21
bbc
Schools need to be kept open until it is impossible to do so.

Parents are not teachers and many work from home. There are also too many distractions for solid work to be done there.

Children without siblings need the social interaction that schools provide.

Currently no fines for not sending kids so parents who don't work or aren't keen don't have to send them.

KEEP SCHOOLS OPEN!
04/01/2021 12:50:34 7 13
bbc
Keep the schools open!!!
04/01/2021 12:53:46 2 3
bbc
It would have been sensible for Ukdoh to have had education plan b.
Simply video lessons of start teachers (mix of genders, race etc), add subs, ad, signing options, put online & on flash. Job done.. Planb. If a pupil, class, school quarantined.. Continue lessons at home. Model also works for adult, prison, hospital stays, excluded.
Singapore start 2 day home schooling this year.
mac
04/01/2021 12:57:10 13 4
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So you expected the teachers, who had continued working throughout the lockdown to carry on working through the summer? You do know that teachers aren't paid for holidays? Perhaps you could share with us your role in battling the pandemic? Another who knows nothing about everything.
04/01/2021 13:00:18 5 2
bbc
What makes you think the teaching unions would have allowed the term to be extended?
04/01/2021 13:09:10 7 1
bbc
If MPs were given £10 grand each to develop systems to communicate with HoP at the beginning of the pandemic why did the Minister for Education not propose a unique system for remote education of children , even university entrants?
zan
04/01/2021 13:28:37 6 2
bbc
Don't you think the teachers deserved a break. Most have worked constantly, still had to work in school or delivering lessons online, or both.
52
04/01/2021 11:37:04 85 36
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Is the nurse holding a lie detector? No wonder Bojo has covered his mouth.
323
04/01/2021 11:56:24 45 21
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More like a brain detector. The results showed no brain function...
492
04/01/2021 12:04:04 4 14
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Boris keeps his word. We are out of the dictatorial bureaucratic EU, thank goodness. Beware of a dictatorial bureaucratic Labour Government full of uneducated morons.
551
04/01/2021 12:06:28 3 6
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I wonder if he thinks the one day of Christmas was worth it now that cases have skyrocketed from 30,000 a day to 50,000 a day? And now we are gonna need a 3rd national lockdown!

Science completely ignored all because Boris wanted to try and (partially) keep some dumb promise he made back in October!! ??
951
04/01/2021 12:22:17 1 3
bbc
I was hoping it was a least a tazer - ideally something a bit more permanent.
04/01/2021 12:55:51 3 3
bbc
I believe she is performing a dope test. He passed!
30
04/01/2021 11:35:03 143 35
bbc
Looking at rising hospital admissions and rising cases, the decision is clear. If the aim is to protect the NHS, then another lockdown is needed.
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04/01/2021 11:37:10 132 151
bbc
The aim should be to protect the vulnerable; The NHS should protect US.

The rest of us should be allowed to go about our normal lives before lockdown kills us all.
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04/01/2021 11:44:33 37 14
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The only way the NHS can protect the vulnerable is if they have sufficient capacity to treat the sick AND do a mass vaccination campaign.

While the rest of you go around infecting the vulnerable (who are teaching your children, selling you your food and doing their essential shopping) the NHS is not going to have the capacity!
497
04/01/2021 12:04:12 13 8
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Moronic
668
04/01/2021 12:11:33 4 12
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Totally agree. Wrong strategy from day 1
IT AMAZES ME HOW PEOPLE ARE LIKE SHEEP AND BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEY HEAR.I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED CIVIL UNREST BY NOW AT OUR LIBERTIES BEING TAKEN AWAY FOR NO GOOD REASON.THE SIGN OF MADNESS IS DOING SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULT.LOCKDOWNS DO MORE DAMAGE THAN GOOD.LOOK BACK 3 YEARS AND YOU WILL FIND NUMBER OF DEATHS SAME AND NHS 'OVERWHELMED'AND NO COVID THEN.WAKE UP PEOPLE Removed
04/01/2021 12:38:11 7 4
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Absolutely, why is the NHS such a sacred cow in the UK, Germany has 3 times more ICUs per head than we do, you can go to what ever doctor you like and whatever hospital, it's insurance based, so what is wrong with that. NHS has become a religion, not good for your health.
04/01/2021 13:01:43 0 3
bbc
Well said ffs when will people learn lockdowns failed it’s all about brexit
04/01/2021 13:03:01 0 1
bbc
Totally agree with you
04/01/2021 13:23:11 1 0
bbc
Britain would need to spend a lot more money on health care to follow your wishes, and where are you going to get all the trained doctors and nurses to look after all those who will need it over the next weeks.
04/01/2021 13:31:45 1 1
bbc
If lockdown is 'killing you', maybe you need to see someone for help. You won't have a 'normal life' until the virus is controlled; this is wishful childish fantasy.
04/01/2021 14:01:17 1 0
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and if you get ill and there isn't a bed, you will die too without a respirator.
04/01/2021 23:12:53 0 0
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if we really want to protect the NHS, we need to make sure it is run correctly.
it is a bit of a basket case in normal times, I would bet it's absenteeism record is possibly amongst the worst, even pre covid.
I know enough people who work for the NHS to be pretty certain of this.
54
04/01/2021 11:37:11 8 10
bbc
I still cannot understand this perverse obsession with 'lockdown' and calling for road blocks or the army by some people.
74
04/01/2021 11:38:51 2 4
bbc
They watch too many war films whilst being economically inactive.
104
04/01/2021 11:41:30 1 1
bbc
Maybe nurse needs to take you back to your room, so she can read to you about how viruses spread then
147
04/01/2021 11:45:24 0 2
bbc
I can, unfortunately a lot of people are miserable individuals that just want to cause others the same.
149
04/01/2021 11:45:30 1 1
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Absolutely - lets shutdown Nov - that will solve problem, rates go up, lets shutdown Dec that will solve problem, rates go up, lets shutdown even more severely now, that will solve problem - and bring in martial law as well - some people on here seem to think that's perfectly acceptable.. a slightly more nuanced intelligent approach instead of bankrupting 5/10m people may be worth considering
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SP
04/01/2021 11:37:15 138 35
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Starmer recommends National Lockdown, Johnson obliges a few days later....
What's the point of this government?
608
04/01/2021 12:09:12 72 70
bbc
Funny how Starmer now calls for lockdown when every man and his dog knows it’s coming.
04/01/2021 13:01:24 10 22
bbc
Starmer is useless and just tries to play politics at every turn.He called for circuit breaker in October which his government in Wales did and was a complete failure
04/01/2021 13:27:58 9 3
bbc
Starmer wanted it to start to-day, what is bozo waiting for?
04/01/2021 13:31:58 2 9
bbc
Governments ok its bloody daft comments like yours.
04/01/2021 13:40:28 7 1
bbc
Starmer can safely say what he wants - he's not in charge.
04/01/2021 13:55:50 1 0
bbc
He usually waits to see what sturgeon is going to do
04/01/2021 14:14:04 1 0
bbc
Starmer also strongly advocated the "fire break" in Wales. Since it hasn't worked he has been very quiet about it. On that basis he is hardly credible either
04/01/2021 14:16:31 1 1
bbc
The point of this government is to deliver Brexit, which has been done.

How do you know what Johnson will do next about Covid? I bet he will not simply do what Starmer wants.
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04/01/2021 11:30:52 7 18
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Hey, lefties. Nothing to do with u turns, it is called reacting to a rapidly changing situation. But those on the left would have to consult their shop steward about it, thus reacting in slow motion.
90
04/01/2021 11:40:06 6 3
bbc
Are you defending this inept government ? Or just posting an inept comment ?
97
04/01/2021 11:40:40 3 1
bbc
No, it's called acting after the horse has bolted! This Govt is continuously behind the curve on all matters!??
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SP
04/01/2021 11:49:14 0 1
bbc
If you mean "reacting VERY SLOWLY" to a rapidly changing situation, you hit the nail on the head....
57
04/01/2021 11:33:01 1 12
bbc
Why SILENCE UK has ONE OF THE LOWEST death rate than other countries!?
223
04/01/2021 11:50:34 1 2
bbc
The UK has one of the highest death rates per capita and has taken practically the worst economic hit of any of the G8 countries.

We have been managed very badly by our elected leaders. And still are being.

I simply cannot understand anyone defending our government, just how bad does it have to be before you acknowledge that this country is being run by a bunch of amateurish incompetents?
32
04/01/2021 11:35:19 6 3
bbc
I thought it was the Government holding a gun to the head of the NHS not the other way round
58
04/01/2021 11:37:38 3 2
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It is the Govt in charge! If it doesn't feel it is upto the task, then it should step aside & call a GE!??
59
04/01/2021 11:37:41 353 35
bbc
The tier system would work if people didn't tier hop! Unfortunately a selection of society think they are better than everyone else.
80
04/01/2021 11:39:27 284 295
bbc
We call them Tories!??
280
04/01/2021 11:54:12 34 5
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Yes. Unfortunately the 'its only a bad cold, get over it" brigade are still alive and well and mingling everywhere.
423
04/01/2021 12:01:16 10 31
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The members of society between 20 & 50 are highly unlikely to develop bad vivid. Yet they are being kept indoors to protect the old and vulnerable. It's not policed and people have had enough.
586
04/01/2021 12:08:12 15 5
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Unfortunately some people have to tier hop just to go to work or drop and pick up kids from school, that’s why different tiers don’t work
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me
04/01/2021 12:17:42 3 2
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What a silly comment you have made some people have to tier hop you might live in 1 tier and work in another .
903
04/01/2021 12:12:50 5 3
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The unspoken is that a large number of people are not complying with the rules and nor will they with a further lockdown. Hard to be sure on percentages but it's probably a quarter to a third; rather than just a few people. We are not going to get R below 1 now. There are not the police numbers to enforce the rules. I am certainly not going to limit outdoor exercise either whatever the law is.
978
04/01/2021 12:23:31 6 2
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this is getting silly, in the main people of every age are using masks. People are social distancing. Yes you get the odd person. But they are not ALL going to parties and not wearing masks. Yet infection with a dodgy test rises. Something is wrong and you lot are sucking up the propaganda. you are repeating whats on the MSM talking points. This is a very very small percentage of the population.
04/01/2021 12:32:57 3 2
bbc
The selection of society don’t think that they’re better than everyone else. They simply don’t think full stop.
04/01/2021 12:46:03 2 4
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Dominic Cummings? He basically set the example for everyone to follow. All these problems of people not following the rules, it's because the elite were seen to be not following the rules.
04/01/2021 13:04:21 1 1
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The tier system didn’t work because it was inconsistent. Silly to do it based on counties. The Peak District for example is in Derbyshire and had less cases than Rutland, but were put in tier 4 because cases innSouth Derbyshire, miles away were high
04/01/2021 13:06:30 2 2
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I think lockdowns are great, I love them. The government pays me to sit at home and my kids watch tv all day.. it's great! I'm hoping we start to do them for seasonal flu! how cool would that be!! And if we do go back to 'normal' there is no way that they can stop me taking them out of school for holidays now! I'll just say im scared of covid lol
04/01/2021 13:12:37 0 1
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I don't really think tier hopping is the main issue - the rules already state you shouldn't travel beyond your local area (meaning village, town or part of city) without a good reason (e.g. work/medical/education) so people would likely be breaking that anyhow before they get as far as entering another tier.
04/01/2021 13:19:34 0 1
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Yes, I am in Tier Three and know for a fact that people from Tier 4 are coming in daily to do shopping and go to open attractions. Many come to my partner's workplace and he can see their address from booking forms. He is not permitted to mention it to them. Some are even from areas about 100 mi away. Deaths and infection have spiralled here now but we're STILL Tier 3...
04/01/2021 14:25:57 0 0
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Sadly, the pandemic has shown we have far too many ignorant and selfish idiots in this country.
21
04/01/2021 11:33:34 19 24
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Whatever he does, the likes of Keir etc will still protest.
It's all so very tiresome
60
04/01/2021 11:37:45 9 4
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If you're tired of democratic opposition, why not try North Korea?
30
04/01/2021 11:35:03 143 35
bbc
Looking at rising hospital admissions and rising cases, the decision is clear. If the aim is to protect the NHS, then another lockdown is needed.
61
04/01/2021 11:37:46 10 27
bbc
No it isn't! They don't work.
62
04/01/2021 11:37:46 49 17
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The risk to kids is small, but their is still a risk. Plus what about the adults in with them!! It's ridiculous imho and we should close schools completely for however long it takes to get this more under control. Kids are resilient and will fill the gaps that they miss and the health of everyone should be a priority. We are so near to brighter days let's not mess it up now..
255
04/01/2021 11:52:59 25 3
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Maybe we should accept that kids will have missed a year of education and start building temporary 'catchup' classrooms where they can have an extra year of education to make up for lost time.
503
04/01/2021 12:04:22 1 8
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You clearly don't have children and don't care about children. What are you spending your furlough money on this week?
04/01/2021 12:53:23 2 3
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keep the kids home and let them out to play in parks, take them to supermarkets etc. seems to be the norm for many folk who 'know' the rules do not apply to them!
04/01/2021 15:01:15 0 0
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risk to alladults under 70 is very small too
04/01/2021 16:34:36 0 0
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Are you serious???? You close a school then re-open hoping the virus doesn't spread. Closed or open it really makes no difference if you don't vaccinate everyone.
63
04/01/2021 11:37:50 2 7
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Can I still go on a skiing holiday to Switzerland?
77
04/01/2021 11:39:04 6 2
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Yes if your name is Stanley Johnson
64
04/01/2021 11:34:25 8 11
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Just how stupid is Boris?

We, and other countries, have had lockdowns and restrictions, repeatedly for 9 months. Yet the virus comes roaring back every time.

Only the most intensely stupid constantly repeat actions that clearly do not work.

Boris should have read the Great Barrington Declaration: it would work. Apparently Sweden is now past its second wave, without any of this insanity.
189
04/01/2021 11:48:05 2 2
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If UK has clarity with 2 (!) vaccines to choose from. EU has the opposite. Absolute vaccine mayhem. Finland not getting enough , Netherlands NONE at all. Worst still EU procurement all over the place spending on many rather than concentrating on a few vaccienes. Proper disaster. Thank yourselves you live in UK.
Uk newspapers hiding the truth. EU newspapers not holding back anger at EU.
65
04/01/2021 11:38:00 257 38
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Unless the minority who ignore the rules are brought into line, any restrictions will fail until vaccinations start to work. ??
355
04/01/2021 11:58:27 106 15
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Yes, Andy - but how do you do it? Anywhere you go you see rules being ignored with security men and Covid Marshals with no power of enforcement unless there is a policeman in attendance. I can't remember the last time I saw a policeman on patrol and when I did he was taking the line of least resistance allowing a non-compliant member of the public to get away with what he was not doing.
380
04/01/2021 11:59:21 11 5
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If everyone is under the same restrictions it is a lot easier to police. Why should people not see friends and family when schools and students are in. It's contradictory.
406
04/01/2021 12:00:34 7 1
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But when ever the idea of 'covid marshalls' is brought up to try and help enforce the restrictions. Or putting the military on the streets. People say that that is going too far....
04/01/2021 12:52:17 4 5
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As you can't police every person that drives over 30mph in a built up area the same applies here. The rules have barely been followed since the Cummings effect. We have a government that looks to Atlas Shrugged for answers so expect incompetence.
04/01/2021 13:17:31 3 2
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My point precisely and if you mean following the letter of the rules then it is only a very small minority who are adhering to them
04/01/2021 13:29:05 5 1
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Right said Andy_Harrison! Any no. of laws can be made but unless they are enforced properly it aint gonna work, let alone create any sustainable results!
It has been proved that even a minority of people not following rules can help raise the R no. above 1 easily. So whoever is that minority who do not listen should really really be dealt by police , otherwise they will keep on flaunting rules!
04/01/2021 14:55:24 0 1
bbc
So you think 50 people havinga party . Equates to 350k of new cases a week . Get a grip
38
04/01/2021 11:35:49 39 8
bbc
The government needs to plan ahead rather than constantly react to the situation. Introducing new rules every other day just causes confusion and uncertainty. Come up with a plan and see it through for at least a few weeks.
66
04/01/2021 11:38:06 22 16
bbc
For good or bad the government very much waits for the recommendations and scientific update from SAGE before then responding. I actually think this is the right approach rather than grandstanding, but it does come across as a knee jerk reaction constantly.
141
04/01/2021 11:44:42 11 1
bbc
The trouble is that many of the SAGE scientists and non SAGE scientists are saying schools need to close, how are they reacting to the science. Matt Hancock himself said this morning that schools will spread the virus, how does this fit in with their strategy of reducing the spread of the virus?
385
04/01/2021 11:59:35 5 1
bbc
The government might wait for scientific advice, but then completely ignores it.
04/01/2021 12:25:15 2 2
bbc
They've ignorde SAGE numerous times, most recently re Christmas 'easing'. Small brains and political egoes think they know more than the scientists!
67
04/01/2021 11:38:17 36 7
bbc
Do it now. Waiting won't make the problem go away - just make solving the problem harder!
68
04/01/2021 11:35:44 13 12
bbc
Vote a clown into power and you'll end up getting a pie in the face
69
04/01/2021 11:36:30 12 15
bbc
'Labour is calling for new England-wide restrictions to come in immediately.'

Then tomorrow they will be stating that we need to keep businesses etc open
11
04/01/2021 11:32:19 29 8
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and a person who can't spell 'gnat' has got the brains of a ?
70
04/01/2021 11:37:06 5 6
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Perhaps rather than talking about flying insects with aquatic larvae the actual subject referred to is followers of Ms Sturgeon? I know she has a loyal following amongst SNP voters, is better at press conferences, but according t6o the facts and figures there isn't much difference in the competence of handling the pandemic between Scotland and England.
871
04/01/2021 12:20:16 3 2
bbc
Hi, did you just Google 'gnat' by any chance?
Tom
04/01/2021 12:55:21 3 3
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In fairness Sturgeon gets a much easier ride from the press and still has the luxury of blaming the government for the economic measures they are taking to mitigate the worst effects of the crisis. It's even better for her that Scotland is sparsely populated and she is a nationalist and does, as all nationalists do, find it easy to blame other nationalities. In this case the English.
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04/01/2021 11:33:37 387 78
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8 week lockdown, close the schools and the borders to all but essential freight, adequately compensate the businesses and vaccinate as many as possible.
71
04/01/2021 11:38:23 145 410
bbc
Oh get a bloody grip!
04/01/2021 12:30:18 11 2
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That is what the post suggests, yes Dougle . . .
04/01/2021 12:34:12 4 4
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I think Deano is correct, the thumbs up supports it, your views, big thumbs down from others on here points to your comment as being irrelevant
04/01/2021 12:38:19 4 3
bbc
Like you have?
Rob
04/01/2021 12:50:55 9 3
bbc
Are you serious? The 8 week lockdown plus vaccination is eminently sensible. People are dying, “getting a bloody grip” and coming over all stiff upper lip isn’t going to stop this!
04/01/2021 13:04:40 1 1
bbc
of the cot you are throwing your toys from?
04/01/2021 13:32:22 0 0
bbc
Whats your plan?
28
04/01/2021 11:34:57 39 9
bbc
Confidence in all these restrictions is falling because there is no clear exit strategy to lift them all. There need to be legally binding criteria set that once met see them lifted, so we all know what to aspire for and a much needed boost to deteriorating mental health is offered.
72
04/01/2021 11:38:30 31 10
bbc
100% this. We are only ever given 'tighter restrictions' and never any hope. Even with the vaccine, the government haven't given us an end date to this utter madness.
633
04/01/2021 12:10:07 2 1
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Maybe because they don't know....
04/01/2021 12:30:03 2 3
bbc
"We are only ever given tighter restrictions" - that is complete rubbish.
We were in a much tighter national lockdown earlier in the year, then that was relaxed (partly due to media demand), shops reopened, schools reopened to more children and tiers were introduced. Even after that, the tiers that some areas were in were reduced (Bristol is an example).
04/01/2021 12:41:08 1 2
bbc
You need to watch other news channels like RT and Al Jazeera who offer a much more balanced view and question the 'science.The Gov is only listening to a very small group of people who have tunnel vision.They are not concerned in any way with the damage of lockdown.They have their massive salaries and jobs are safe so they have nothing to lose.The public need to wake up and rebel or no end of this
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Kat
04/01/2021 11:38:36 22 7
bbc
Re the picture accompanying the article: if only the person on the right were covered in metal PPE and uttering the word, "Exterminate".
169
04/01/2021 11:47:03 3 3
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Brilliant - have an uptick
54
04/01/2021 11:37:11 8 10
bbc
I still cannot understand this perverse obsession with 'lockdown' and calling for road blocks or the army by some people.
74
04/01/2021 11:38:51 2 4
bbc
They watch too many war films whilst being economically inactive.
75
04/01/2021 11:38:57 9 5
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Boris can't win, and Drakeford Malfoy and Nicki Krankee have hardly fared much better. Other countries have succeeded by having either a more compliant populace (NZ) or a more authoritarian government (Russia, China). We have neither, and thus are screwed. Happy 2020b everyone.
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04/01/2021 11:35:49 39 8
bbc
The government needs to plan ahead rather than constantly react to the situation. Introducing new rules every other day just causes confusion and uncertainty. Come up with a plan and see it through for at least a few weeks.
76
04/01/2021 11:39:01 5 2
bbc
If you found yourself in a swamp how much detailed forward planning would you do?
63
04/01/2021 11:37:50 2 7
bbc
Can I still go on a skiing holiday to Switzerland?
77
04/01/2021 11:39:04 6 2
bbc
Yes if your name is Stanley Johnson
26
04/01/2021 11:34:17 22 19
bbc
Total 100% lockdown required today.
78
04/01/2021 11:39:18 5 7
bbc
Rubber mattress toppers are on aisle 3 mate
521
04/01/2021 12:05:32 1 2
bbc
Grow up, silly boy.
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04/01/2021 11:35:45 28 6
bbc
The same dithering which has characterized this government's insipid approach to COVID. Cases and deaths are skyrocketing and they acknowledge that tighter restrictions are needed. Instead of lurching from one all-too-late reactionary policy to another, we desperately need to be proactive and get on top of this rather than constantly delaying at the cost of time and (more importantly) lives.
79
04/01/2021 11:39:18 11 14
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Deaths are impossible to analyse because they aren't covid specific. The figures we are given are for any reason. Is that none or all that are because of covid? If the real figures were published there would be outcry. If allowed see my reply to this
COB
04/01/2021 15:00:58 0 0
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Even with the inflated government numbers, if you are below 60 you have a 0.005% chance of dying from COVID or COVID related illness. Actual number is probably even less.
UK population: 67.9m
Total COVID deaths below age of 60: 3,500
59
04/01/2021 11:37:41 353 35
bbc
The tier system would work if people didn't tier hop! Unfortunately a selection of society think they are better than everyone else.
80
04/01/2021 11:39:27 284 295
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We call them Tories!??
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TF
04/01/2021 11:47:06 47 6
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how does making is political help? I think there are 'tier hoppers' on both sides!
444
04/01/2021 12:02:13 27 18
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Red bigot
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MrT
04/01/2021 12:09:35 29 7
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Pathetic and ignorant tribalism
638
04/01/2021 12:10:15 6 17
bbc
These English exceptionalists seem determined to spoil everything with their moronic arrogance.
849
04/01/2021 12:08:31 14 7
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How boring.
SJ
04/01/2021 12:34:05 2 6
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Dominic, specifically.
04/01/2021 12:41:08 2 2
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No, non believers, anti mask brigade, anti vaccine brigade and the Flat earth brigade, all that don't give a toss about anyone but their selves, you see plenty of them on here, conspiracy theorist's that get shot down every time by the fact they never have to give proof, just rambling on about a website from tinpot land that says this is all a hoax, sad people really.
04/01/2021 12:43:15 2 1
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Margaret Ferrier now a Tory?
04/01/2021 12:53:49 5 4
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What a filthy thing to write.Remember if there was an election they would still win
04/01/2021 13:03:43 4 1
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I know plenty of hard lefties who are breaking the rules every day of the week!
04/01/2021 13:05:02 0 2
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We call them ignorant selfish people
04/01/2021 13:13:01 2 2
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We call them lefties
04/01/2021 13:14:41 4 1
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Is Rita Ora a Tory then
ET
04/01/2021 13:19:12 1 1
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Possibly.
They’re definitely antisocial. Also likely to be pub goers. We all know the type. Around here, they aren’t Tories.
KWP
04/01/2021 13:21:40 2 1
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Piers Corbyn voted conservative?!
04/01/2021 13:44:54 5 0
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Silly comment Slim, at the moment I live in a tier 3 area which at the weekend saw an endless stream of vehicles travelling into our town. Now granted I didn't canvas their political leaning but doubt they were all Tories. This is a pandemic not an election grow up.
04/01/2021 13:51:09 0 0
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No idiots like yourself.
jon
04/01/2021 14:02:36 0 0
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You mean, of course, the well known Tory Piers Corbyn and all his Tory mates??
04/01/2021 14:03:36 0 0
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I call them lefties.
04/01/2021 14:30:10 1 0
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Why? There are plenty of people of all political persuasions who do not seem to care.
04/01/2021 14:35:13 0 0
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or leavers.
Or just plain, irresponsible, idiots.
DrR
04/01/2021 14:36:37 0 0
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No we call them celebs and footballers, your political position has nothing to do with it.
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04/01/2021 11:39:27 27 12
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No, do it NOW you useless charlatans.

Stop floating ideas in the press to guage the public reaction. Just have the guts to make the tough decisions instead of worrying about being unpopular and trying to make it OUR fault.

Useless Tories forever running from their responsibility to the people of this country. People are dying needlessly to protect their polling figures frankly, shameful.
04/01/2021 13:19:46 1 2
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Have you actually looked at the polling figures ? - thought not
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04/01/2021 11:36:11 580 52
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Due course is now. I really wish he would stop trying to be a populist and start being a leader. If he can't do that, move over and let somebody in who can.
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04/01/2021 11:39:27 407 52
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Absolutely. Right throughout this pandemic the government has reacted too slowly and done everything too late. Not only does this lead to higher infection rates and deaths but also more economic damage.
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04/01/2021 12:01:08 19 2
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They are all making a fortune out of this. 20 billion on the useless track and trace. Nightengale hospitals that haven’t been used. War generates money and this virus is doing the same for all these government ministers. Just look at Dido Harding
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04/01/2021 12:21:00 5 6
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And of course lockdown doesnt cause any economic damage does it?
04/01/2021 12:41:19 0 2
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"This pandemic"? What others have there been to match this scale in our lifetime?
04/01/2021 12:51:07 2 15
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What rubbish you write.They have not been slow.The only mistake I can see is that when an announcement is made their has been too longer period for new rules to come in.This in part due to the rules having to passed in the commons.
04/01/2021 12:59:36 1 7
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Because it is is trying to avoid the country being an economic basket case for the next 2 generations. This will cost our kids & grandkids hundreds of billions & its them that will suffer. Closing down the country to the level & for the time required to reduce infection massively is not economically sustainable. Its all a case of managing the death rate within public acceptability.
04/01/2021 13:29:43 0 2
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What would you or anybody done differently!!!!!! Any ideas because what ever suggested you would still get people doing there own thing. The whole world is in the same position some had harder restrictions . But the people would had complained about that. If we closed the borders end of Feb you would had thousands of school children stranded in Italy. Where the main virus started to appear.
04/01/2021 14:37:00 0 0
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Absolutely, I mean, absolutely, so I mean absolutely, absolutely, I mean so absolutely, absolutely absolutely!
04/01/2021 14:53:14 0 0
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What would faster look like exactly? If we followed your logic we would have stayed in lock down until we all had our covid passports and the country even more bankrupted.....glad you and sir Kier hindsight arent in charge.
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04/01/2021 11:39:30 6 15
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The NHS are lying to you Boris. Just like they are lying to the rest of us. Grow a spine and accept that persisting with something that doesn't work needs a change of strategy. Not more restrictions. Clueless. Give us our lives back and get stuff back open again!
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TF
04/01/2021 11:43:35 1 1
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why would the NHS lie?
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04/01/2021 11:43:56 0 2
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Typical BBC readers. Downvoting any view that doesn't tally with theirs.
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04/01/2021 11:45:47 0 1
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As long as you sign a paper to say you will not take health care from the NHS!
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04/01/2021 11:33:37 35 29
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Time for roadblocks, police and the army to enforce the law, strict curfews and prison sentences and criminal records for the people that refuse to follow them!
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04/01/2021 11:39:43 14 19
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Yeah and I suppose you'd like to shoot people for not wearing a mask in Tescos next. You hide away I'm certainly not.
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04/01/2021 11:46:58 1 4
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I'll volunteer to shoot tesco customers, lockdown or not...
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04/01/2021 12:01:52 3 5
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Not shoot them but prosecute them and not just Tesco but all shops. There is too little policing not just by the police but by Local Authorities too
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04/01/2021 12:09:54 1 1
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Sounds like a plan.
04/01/2021 14:28:05 0 0
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Silly straw man argument.
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04/01/2021 11:39:43 5 7
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Am I right in thinking that if someone had covid 2weeks ago but gets hitand killed by a bus today, its still counted as a covid death? Genuine question as my perception is that this would be the case, though this is clearly a manipulation of figures!
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04/01/2021 11:44:16 1 1
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I’d hope not, but have wondered this as figures always say deaths (within a 28 day period of a positive test).
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04/01/2021 11:45:02 0 2
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If someone tested positive 2 weeks ago, they should not be out to be hit by a bus.
However if someone tested positive and was in intensive care for 5 weeks then died, they would not be counted.
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04/01/2021 11:45:55 1 2
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No. The coroner would rule the cause of death as multiple injuries caused by being hit by a bl00dy big bus.

Don't believe the garbage people spout on Facebook.
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04/01/2021 11:39:45 90 33
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If Cummings had been sacked AND prosecuted over his multiple breaches of lockdown, things may have been different. However bozo and his puppet cabinet must be held responsible for the thousands of excess deaths and the wasted billions filling their paymaster's pockets
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04/01/2021 11:42:58 57 13
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Perhaps if people followed the rules it might help, or does personal responsibility not come into it?
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TF
04/01/2021 11:43:00 4 2
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Ifs and buts don't change where we are now. We are where we are so what are your suggestions to solve this...?
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04/01/2021 11:46:28 6 5
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people who are looking for an excuse will always find one
04/01/2021 12:38:46 4 3
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Why is Margaret Ferrier still an MP? Cummings has gone and she is still here. Arguably her actions put more people at risk than Cummings.
04/01/2021 13:32:03 3 2
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Cummings was only one person and people didn't need to follow his bad example. What about personal responsibility?
04/01/2021 13:44:46 2 2
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Grow up
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04/01/2021 11:39:49 5 4
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A full lockdown until Easter will obviously reduce the number of 'cases', hospitalisations and deaths. It won't get rid of Covid-19 though. The genie is out of the bottle and while vaccines offer hope, the biggest hope of all is the virus itself; that it evolves to live within the absolute majority and only kills a tiny minority (cue first comment saying that's what it does already).
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04/01/2021 11:33:37 35 29
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Time for roadblocks, police and the army to enforce the law, strict curfews and prison sentences and criminal records for the people that refuse to follow them!
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04/01/2021 11:39:52 3 6
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Is this a parody?
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04/01/2021 11:39:55 61 16
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If things are as bad as he quotes in his figures, there’s one solution. Lockdown.

Stop messing around, with yes, no, maybe, do this today but not tomorrow but again in a week.

Be a leader. Make a decision.

We’re almost 12 months in and worse off than we began. Stop messing about, just do it.
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04/01/2021 11:43:32 28 36
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So why repeat a policy that has obviously failed?
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04/01/2021 12:09:06 1 1
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Daniel we are probably 15 or more months in, just our Gov has been too slow to react or plan from the outset. There's been no strategy, no if the r rate does this then we will do that which would be clearer to everyone as to potential consequences or rewards if r rate changed. As for the virus change that's no surprise surely there must be someone doing some scenario modelling -but perhaps not.
04/01/2021 13:19:12 1 1
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"If things are as bad as he quotes in his figures ". That is part of the problem, little trust in the figures the popular media/ government churns out.
04/01/2021 14:34:09 0 0
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Boris will never be a leader
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04/01/2021 11:30:52 7 18
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Hey, lefties. Nothing to do with u turns, it is called reacting to a rapidly changing situation. But those on the left would have to consult their shop steward about it, thus reacting in slow motion.
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04/01/2021 11:40:06 6 3
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Are you defending this inept government ? Or just posting an inept comment ?
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04/01/2021 11:40:19 13 6
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The government need someone to challenge SAGE who's only remit is COVID, not the economy, not how many will suffer and or die as a result of lockdowns. Poverty is a huge cause of death which is what these lockdowns will cause.
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Dfs
04/01/2021 11:43:54 5 2
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Think you are misunderstanding the role of SAGE... They are government scientific advisors... Not economists... That advice will come from the chancellor et all... As will business advice come from the chamber of commerce... Sage is SCIENCE... and the government NOT sage make the decisions.
04/01/2021 13:19:06 0 1
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true.sage are not god and plenty of other leading expertes strongly disagree with the strategy the gov has followed.the damage from lockdowns will outlast the pandemic.
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04/01/2021 11:29:52 28 11
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Tougher measures at this time will do nothing. The people not keeping them now won't keep them in a higher tier, the people following it now should be more or less protected.
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04/01/2021 11:40:19 9 21
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It looks like people have been trying to follow Government guidelines for too long and are tiring of them, especially when they see they don't appear to be working. Daily briefings, graphs, charts, statistics slogans and tiers have had it. Its now time for deaths, hospitals collapsing under pressure and troops on the streets.
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04/01/2021 12:12:29 4 2
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I think the fact we’re all different tiers doesn’t help, there’s no sense of solidarity, quite apart from the fact that some people have to tier hop for work or dropping and picking up kids from school
Tom
04/01/2021 12:42:04 4 1
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How can you tell if they're not working. Previous warnings were of 200,000 cases a day so we seem to have avoided that in the timeframe they predicted. To control the behaviour of 67m population is not as easy as some people would have you believe. Much easier in a totalitarian state of course.
04/01/2021 12:51:18 4 5
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DO GET A SENSE OF PROPORTION AND STOP BELIEVING ALL THESE FIGURES WHICH MAKE NO SENSE AND NEED PROPER SCRUTINY.WHY TELL US DEATH NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WITH COVID BUT NOT WHO DIED OF COVID.JUST TO SCARE PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM FOLLOW RULES WHICH NO SANE PERSON WOULD PUT UP WITH IF THEY REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
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04/01/2021 11:40:26 68 7
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"indue course"

But not now. Why?

Why wait until the infection has spread so badly before making the tough decisions?

Here we have Johnsons two major failings in one - (a) he doesn't like to make difficult decisions that will make him unpopular which leads to (b) he is always reacting to situations instead of getting in front of them.

People have died because of his dither and failure.
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04/01/2021 11:47:34 39 14
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People have also died because they didn't follow the rules.
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04/01/2021 11:32:53 714 178
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Dither and delay whilst he prepares a slogan and tests the waters for opinions. This isn’t leadership. People are dying and hospitals are collapsing whilst the usual trio of Johnson, Hancock and Williamson bluster and u turn
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04/01/2021 11:40:31 392 85
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That is exactly what his "leadership" style amounts to
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04/01/2021 12:07:02 5 2
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you sound like Andrew Marr!
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04/01/2021 12:08:15 7 29
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You ask too much of leaders. This is War. Leaders make mistakes. But the Oxford vaccine is a game changer. Be thankful you live in UK where the right vaccine choices have been made / authorised. Just look at EU press today...
04/01/2021 12:29:53 1 4
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It's no different an approach than any of the divolved administrations. No need to single out Johnson.
04/01/2021 12:35:46 3 1
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But so many wanted this utter clown and his bunch of idiots !
04/01/2021 12:39:59 2 1
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What leadership?
04/01/2021 12:56:48 0 4
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Testing public opinion is EXACTLY what this is all about. If public opinion thought 3k deaths a day was acceptable, we would have less restrictions. If public opinion suggested 200 was way too many we would have more lockdown. Its all about public mood/opinion. People are now used to 500-1000/d and are not 'freaked' by it, whilst they were last April. Its all a balance.
04/01/2021 14:19:20 1 0
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A portmanteau word to summarise the Johnson government - FLAILURE.
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04/01/2021 11:40:31 52 4
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Why break the habit of a lifetime, and actually get ahead of the curve!
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04/01/2021 11:31:23 206 45
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Lockdown and National Mass Inoculation...
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Dee
04/01/2021 11:40:35 12 22
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There is no inoculation, this isn't small pox. The vaccines may confer immunity, but their main purpose is to keep the bigger symptoms down so less hospital admissions. And I can't wait to see this January's tax receipts to see how damaged the economy is from all the lockdowns.
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04/01/2021 11:49:34 9 17
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You 'can't wait' to see how much the youth of today will have to pay back over the next 50 years?

You have a strange selfish outlook on life!
04/01/2021 13:08:18 1 1
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I think you are a little confused. Vaccine is so called because it is derived from the Latin word for cow (vacca). Cow pox was inoculated into people to prevent smallpox. The current vaccine is being inoculated into people. Later vaccine and vaccination came to mean inoculation of a substance to produce immunity to a specific disease.
04/01/2021 13:45:54 0 0
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yet if it had been done properly in the first place that damage would have been minimnal.
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04/01/2021 11:30:52 7 18
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Hey, lefties. Nothing to do with u turns, it is called reacting to a rapidly changing situation. But those on the left would have to consult their shop steward about it, thus reacting in slow motion.
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04/01/2021 11:40:40 3 1
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No, it's called acting after the horse has bolted! This Govt is continuously behind the curve on all matters!??
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04/01/2021 11:40:49 13 4
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Impose, enforce and forget public opinion! It is not that hard if you remove the politics of it all, if it brings this to an end it is worth it.
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04/01/2021 11:42:11 8 4
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Unfortunately for Boris, public opinion is the only thing that matters to him!??
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04/01/2021 11:32:14 209 67
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Hate to say it, but we need a full on lockdown again.
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04/01/2021 11:40:54 11 22
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Because they work so well...
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04/01/2021 11:40:57 6 4
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BJ waiting until firstly he's backed into a corner and there's only one way out, secondly seeing how popular any decision to lockdown will be accepted by the media. Incompetent, apparently wants to be compared to Churchill - the dog in the adverts or the decisive leader (I know he also had faults but at least his strategic decisions were sound).

BJ - time for walkies!