Covid: Regional rules 'probably going to get tougher', says Boris Johnson
03/01/2021 | news | politics | 12,813
Boris Johnson says more areas may need tougher rules, as Labour urges England-wide curbs within 24 hours.
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03/01/2021 12:43:08 350 67
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Probably, maybe...

Decisive as ever there Boz
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03/01/2021 12:58:20 180 261
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Whereas you clearly have all the facts in front of you and a crystal ball and can tell us exactly what to do for the next 12 months....
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PJH
03/01/2021 12:43:31 1967 621
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How exactly are schools "safe"?

Staff are not allowed to wear PPE in the classroom. 4-5 year olds have no concept of social distancing. 30+ households mixing. If it was a rave, the Police would be breaking it up.

Close Primary Schools now.
I disagree. Ensuring our children get a proper education is more important than anything else. And closing primary schools now will affect the poorest and most disadvantaged children disproportionately more than any other.

Instead, lets keep the schools open and target school-aged children to be the first in line for vaccination. Their education is more important than keeping old people 'safe'.
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03/01/2021 12:55:12 200 365
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Keeping schools open at all costs should be the government's No 1 priority.

Yes it will increase infections and yes it will increase deaths but this is a calculated risk and the benefits of keeping 10 million children in education outweigh the risk of a few thousand extra deaths. The government understands this but will not admit it due to sensationalist headlines.
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03/01/2021 12:55:42 178 70
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They're not , he was lying again
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03/01/2021 12:55:53 121 41
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Teaching staff will work from home - full live online timetable, the older more vulnerable support staff told to be in school; it's the same hierarchies in education as anywhere, the less you get paid, more risk you have to take
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03/01/2021 12:57:28 94 56
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They are considered "safe" because young kids don't seem to catch the virus. However, safety is not a binary thing - it's a matter of degree and the logic behind keeping schools open is that more harm will be done to kids by closing them. That trade-off might of course have to change if the evidence changes.
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03/01/2021 12:57:54 133 27
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The overwhelming majority of people not wearing masks in my local town centre shops yesterday were parents out with children
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03/01/2021 12:59:23 110 17
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Totally agree with you PJH. The question is how many deaths are equal to a few weeks in school education. It is not the virus' effect on the children but the fact that they may give it to teachers, or take it home to Parents and Grandparents.
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PJB
03/01/2021 13:01:06 18 25
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Potential R number for 1 asymptomatic child (average family x 30 as second phase ) = c 1k.

So how does R 1000 grab you Prof. Vallance.
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03/01/2021 13:02:40 36 162
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Don't fall for the whinging teachers act, any business is desperate to be open yet the unionised public sector is trying to get time off work. Keep schools open!!
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03/01/2021 13:06:15 83 12
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My Daughter teaches Year 2. Thirty children, no social distancing. A number of the children she teaches have their grand parents taking them to and from school. One child bringing the virus into school risks infecting 30 extended families plus mine. I work for the Police and cannot work from home. How is this safe or sensible?
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03/01/2021 13:13:22 13 20
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The clinical evidence is that young children don’t carry enough of the virus to shed it onto other people. It’s adults who are the problem giving each other new year hugs and standing 20 cm apart chatting.
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03/01/2021 13:19:46 5 12
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I disagree. Stricter rules should apply to those mostly at risk and allow kids to return to school. If those at risk don't mix with kids and teachers, I am sure schools will be just fine. Its hard to admit, but the challenge is key workers with kids - that's how the virus is getting to care homes and hospitals, and they are the ones allowed back to school. Gov should do better in caring for them.
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03/01/2021 12:43:35 359 134
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U turn after u turn after u turn.

Anyone else getting dizzy?
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03/01/2021 12:49:58 351 271
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Do you think you can plan with certainly against a virus that continually throws changes and challenges at us? No country on earth has been able to fight this virus without making constant changes. These aren’t u-turns on policy, they are changes to a changing disease.
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03/01/2021 12:51:20 25 17
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Starmer?
03/01/2021 14:01:22 14 4
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No, it is an impossible situation to manage. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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03/01/2021 14:15:05 2 0
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No. I suspect those of us that aren’t, are capable of working things out for ourselves.
03/01/2021 14:33:34 3 0
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Just you.
03/01/2021 14:39:53 7 1
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As Einstein said, "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
03/01/2021 15:18:06 7 6
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Only idiots call it u turns.so when weather man says rain tom then says no rain is it a u turn.god some people are so thick it's called keeping up with change
03/01/2021 15:25:59 6 1
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I accept that a virus mutates (3500+ times so far) and that it doesn't care that we all want certainty and stability. You can react to the changing situation (and be told you're U-turning) or you can do nothing (and be told you are apathetic.). There's no way to win. Even those who did great at the start (Germany?) are now in full lockdown.
03/01/2021 16:25:00 0 4
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Im bored with it Matt.
03/01/2021 17:47:43 3 0
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People into raves street parties and people playing dominoes, and all the other failures in this country
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lol
03/01/2021 12:43:53 5 9
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Just get it done.
03/01/2021 20:48:03 1 0
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What? Get what done exactly?
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03/01/2021 12:44:04 469 45
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Those of us, like me, who've received NO financial support despite a massive decline in work desperately NEED help now. These ongoing restrictions must come with FAIR support!!!
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03/01/2021 12:59:44 343 329
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The scariest thing for me from that awful year, is the BBC's slavish adherence to HMG's covid cult narrative.
They have such a privileged and uniquely powerful position as the State Broadcaster, and to abuse it to push what has been little more than propaganda to cover up appalling decision making is shameful.
Of course it also suits their own desire to usher in the sanitised nanny state.
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03/01/2021 13:10:28 23 19
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Everyone wants to suck the government's teat.
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03/01/2021 13:13:08 69 11
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This Government doesn't care about you and never will. As long as they and their mates are getting richer, that's all they care about.
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03/01/2021 12:56:02 29 15
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Agreed. We should’ve locked down harder, closed the borders, and supported closed businesses. Flip-flopping has been the worst of all worlds and it’s clear the only solution now is eradicating the virus.
03/01/2021 13:01:43 9 11
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Who pays?
03/01/2021 14:01:01 7 2
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I feel for you but what kind of support are you talking about specifically?
03/01/2021 13:59:42 6 3
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Totally agree - it’s a difficult line to walk between lockdown and keeping the economy afloat invidious decisions.
03/01/2021 14:04:58 8 0
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Absolutely. When many on furlough have been on a spending spree buying new cars and vans as business requirements.
MrW
03/01/2021 14:28:57 6 5
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Unless you are a company director that gets the majority of their income thru dividends rather than choosing to pay yourself an honest PAYE salary. Bed, made, lie in it etc. No sympathy if that's the case.
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03/01/2021 19:10:11 2 2
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Yes,, and the fair support is taking the assets of all the lockdown fanatics who are still in work. Mostly professional London-centric bedwetters. Take away their salaries, take away their homes,auction them off and give all the money to you lot. Soon sort their fascism out...
03/01/2021 20:23:03 0 0
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i got made redundant a month before xmas 2019, just 3 months before this started, i have had NO income whatsoever, no benefits whatsoever. because i have saved most of my life and am just above the benefit threshold, so must you be or else you would have had benefits...
04/01/2021 09:57:05 0 0
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Mike you need to remember giving you no help in the beginning was due to the rushed nature of the support. Giving you no help now is a political decision based on the fact that the Govt has decided that if you decided to run a small business in the 12 months before the crisis then you did it to avoid tax.

The idea that this Govt supports small business is laughable.
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03/01/2021 12:44:05 74 18
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Useless.
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03/01/2021 12:50:53 37 81
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Are you ? Don't feel down just because you can't acheive everything you wanted
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03/01/2021 12:44:23 11 75
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Over the top rules for a cold.

Better to let everyone get it then problem solved.
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03/01/2021 12:49:00 34 6
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What an absolute idiotic thing to say, people are dying all around us and a idiot like you says it's like a normal cold.
We have absolute morans in this country, from the top to the bottom. Shame on you.
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03/01/2021 12:55:01 7 1
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that's the laziest and weakest attempt at trolling I've seen for a long time!!!! you need to up your game and put some effort in
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03/01/2021 12:57:24 4 1
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Have you not noticed yet that we are not talking about colds?
And solving one problem with the 'herd immunity' approach creates other,
death related, problems.
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03/01/2021 13:00:34 6 1
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This "cold" has so far killed around 1 in every 890 people in the UK - to which I'm sure the reply will be they were old and going to die anyway.

I can only hope that you were being deliberately provocative to try and get people to respond to you.
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03/01/2021 12:44:52 120 24
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I don't get the concern on Kids not going to school. I don't want me child going to school, getting tested feeling 100% fine then coming home being told he has covid and I have to have 2 weeks off work. How do I get paid?
Rather him not go to school than take that risk.
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03/01/2021 12:49:03 114 26
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Parents need to make the sensible decision that Boris seems unable to do, don't send your kids to school!!
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03/01/2021 13:10:29 2 19
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So you are happy for your kid to spread Covid to other families because of your work? Would rather stick your head in the sand and ignore it. No wonder we are in such a mess!
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03/01/2021 13:12:13 18 5
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Well how do I get paid when I have to stay home and look after my children. My children who have suffered mental health issues for most of this year. My children WHO NEED TO BE AT SCHOOL!!?? 2 sides to every story I afraid.
03/01/2021 15:41:52 2 0
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Um, so you are going to keep your child at home, not go to work and not be paid anyway then ?
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03/01/2021 12:45:03 1705 432
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Watching Johnson waffling, denying and obfuscating clearly annoyed Andre Marr this morning, not just me. Why did the UK elect a clown?
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03/01/2021 12:47:37 1007 182
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Because Corbyn got a C- in the juggling exam.
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03/01/2021 12:48:01 114 80
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Cos everybody wanted brexit that's why he got the job.
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03/01/2021 12:48:07 119 256
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Andrew Marrxist usually interrupts any guest politically to the right of Lenin whilst allowing his hard-left guests to prattle on.
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03/01/2021 12:51:20 97 84
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Please enlighten me to what the other sensible choices did we have?
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03/01/2021 12:53:17 173 42
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The only pro-Brexit leader was the clown.
Says a lot, really.
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03/01/2021 12:57:41 158 73
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Labour would have won election with a decent leader
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03/01/2021 13:02:14 115 47
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Andrew Marr never allowed BJ to answer a question.. his impatience let Boris off the hook so many times by interrupting the answer or asking the next question!! Useless interviewer!!
Mmmmm... probably as the preferred alternative to the IRA supporter elected by clowns in Labour party ! Removed
Because we have a brainwashed electorate who were obsessed with making Brexit happen, even to their own detriment. And a media who consistently attacked and denigrated the perfectly decent and honest alternative. Removed
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03/01/2021 13:07:36 54 15
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Electorate in this country have a "I'm all right Jack" attitude. Tory's appeal to middle class and Margaret Thatcher convinced people that if they bought their Council (so depleting the housing stock) they immediately became middle class. Given a free hand the Tories would abandon the Welfare System (Are there no Prisons, are there no work houses?) and introduce a 2 tier Health Service a la USA.
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03/01/2021 13:10:25 22 4
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Because they are led to believe, by the press, that life is a circus?
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03/01/2021 13:11:10 36 11
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Wasn't he absolutely useless. He can't stay on track/theme but wanders off in to his own little/tiny mind. Andrew is a lovely man but it needs a different sort of journalist to interview Johnson but he won't let them as they'll tear his arguments apart.
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03/01/2021 13:12:29 43 17
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We didn’t elect a clown, the Tory party elected a clown. We elect MP’s. Just happens they are led by a clown extraordinaire.
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03/01/2021 13:13:59 31 39
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You prefer the teaching unions to run the country?
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03/01/2021 13:14:51 35 17
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Due to targeted social media adverts that preyed on the weak and poorly to change their opinion through outright lies and defamation.
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R1
03/01/2021 13:15:00 14 8
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Because all the others were even less competent !!
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03/01/2021 13:15:35 20 11
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Why did England elect this clown, not UK.
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03/01/2021 13:17:35 5 3
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because he wanted the poison chice more than the otherz.
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03/01/2021 13:20:48 4 6
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They elected Johnson because of the opposition Piers Cornbyns brother!
England is inherently dim and servile.
They are bred to it.
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03/01/2021 13:25:25 6 15
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Could it be because he is the best out off the bunch of greedy self important politicians?
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03/01/2021 13:25:47 23 6
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Because stupid people had had enough of Brexit, so he promised them the end and they voted for him.
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03/01/2021 13:27:22 14 8
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I quite agree. Poor Andrew Marr managed to ask about 3 questions and the bumbling bafoon just carried on waffling, nothing to do with the questionS. Just be grateful he wasn't in charge in WW2!!!!
03/01/2021 13:33:30 16 5
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Totally agree. Johnson would not give a straight answer to any questions, just meaningless waffle. I had to turn it off and read the summary. Again he’ll be forced to act as numbers increase and it’ll be too late. I despair.
03/01/2021 13:37:47 8 4
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Because (with, in retrospect, the worst timing imaginable) the country was distracted by Brexit nonsense.
03/01/2021 13:41:14 14 14
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He won because Labour are unelectable and have alienated their core voters for decades. Brexit was the straw that broke the camels back.

It wasnt even to do with Boris. It was all about Labour.
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03/01/2021 13:42:48 12 8
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Most of the UK DID NOT vote for Johnson. He is not the people's PM and this is not the people's government.

And most of the UK electorate DID NOT endorse his Brexit "policy".

Now where did I put that Dalek? After all, it's just a glorified version of one of Johnson's water cannons, isn't it?
03/01/2021 13:44:09 8 1
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Because the sleep of reason brings forth monsters ... Trump, Putin etc etc
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03/01/2021 13:47:20 7 5
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Scotland did not
03/01/2021 13:20:26 19 3
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because so many of the electorate are politically ignorant and read the Mail, Express and Torygraph and Sun !
03/01/2021 13:50:48 3 1
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Because England had no other option whereas in Scotland we did. Though there are those who say we have our own clown but not as bad as Boris.
03/01/2021 13:51:21 6 8
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Because people knew he would deliver the Brexit that we voted for.
Would you rather have had Corbyn?
03/01/2021 13:52:46 13 3
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Because much if the press spent 5 years slagging off everything Jeremy Corbyn did and telling us how awful the EU was and unfortunately many were taken in by the propaganda
03/01/2021 13:53:45 5 8
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Because, for all his sins, he is better than the clown the Labour Party had, Corbyn would still be sitting with fence up his arse. For 50 years I voted Labour but last time took the Starmer approach and refused to vote.
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03/01/2021 12:45:11 609 135
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No matter how tough the rules are there will always be those idiots who ignore them and put the rest of the population at increased risk.
risk from what? rebranded flu. Removed
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03/01/2021 13:00:23 24 13
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Yes like the three Tory MPswho took their families to foreign lands over the Xmas period
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03/01/2021 13:00:57 18 18
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Like Boris and Williamson letting schools back with mixing on a massive scale?
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03/01/2021 13:16:34 10 34
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The answer is obvious do not make them rules. Treat the public with respect and ask for their support. Tell me to do something and I will do the opposite. Ask me and I will consider and if the request is sensible I will most likely do what you ask.
Political woke arrogance will always fail in the UK
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03/01/2021 13:20:54 6 37
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If you are vulnerable, stay home and stay safe till you get the vaccine. I'm still going to see Friends and Family. Schools are the largest cause of the spread. I'm at very low risk and I refuse to isolate myself while schools are still open. I'd abide by a strict national lockdown, but nothing else.
03/01/2021 13:38:51 6 1
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Yes mostly the millionaire celebrities and premiership footballers. Rules for thee but not for me.
03/01/2021 13:11:00 2 19
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Only an idiot would think its the publics fault and not the govt
03/01/2021 13:43:00 12 1
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I live near plenty! Posting pictures having fun on new years eve mixing with idiots on the street. Working for the NHS and sticking to the guidelines set out at work and outside this is a slap in the face. Although you still hear the fake news that no one is in covid wards! Does my head in and a mocks the people trying to protect us. As for schools keep them closed and do remote learning.
03/01/2021 13:44:16 5 4
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When there was a national lockdown for 4 months the rates came right down, despite a minority of people breaking rules and at the time no masks in shops etc. I would suggest, therefore, that you're looking in the wrong direction if you think individual non compliance is a major factor. the Government love it when us little people squabble with our neighbours over masks, and don't blame them.
03/01/2021 14:29:40 2 1
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Yes .. no matter how well 95% of the population drive their cars .. there will always be those idiots who ignore the highway code.

BUT .. even though they are the biggest contributor to road casualties.... we don't ban other people from driving.

The COVID rules are not stopping the rule breakers, only ruining the lives of those who are sensible.
03/01/2021 15:07:04 2 0
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Actually the police have been really meek. There should be fines for not adhering to the Covid social distancing and not wearing masks in enclosed spaces.
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03/01/2021 12:45:14 78 14
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Remember test and trace? Is that still a thing or has that world beating service dead and buried along with any other government approach.
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03/01/2021 12:59:39 22 48
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So easy, for those doing nothing to judge those trying to do smoething, in the biggest health emergency for a 100 years in the UK .
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03/01/2021 13:30:36 0 1
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Herd immunity was first, look at where we are going.
03/01/2021 14:07:22 1 1
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Test works (maybe too well with false positives)
Trace works
Getting anyone to do what they are told when traced does not work.

But then the WHO told us if we did test/trace it would all be fine.
All theory and no common sense from WHO & PHE
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03/01/2021 12:45:39 25 13
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Sadly by March 2021 we will be back in a national lockdown with nothing changed in a year. I understand the need to control the virus, and the terrible trade-off between lives and livelehoods. But we have worst death toll AND worst economic slump in Europe, so lockdowns have been totally ineffective. Perhaps if Govt ministers, advisers, SAGE members & MPs hadn't got away with ignoring lockdowns...
03/01/2021 17:54:07 4 1
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Without them there would be bodies in meat trucks at hospitals as the virus ran away unchecked. Look at the Winter of discontent in the 70s. Lockdown was a blunt tool of desperation due to a healthcare system not fit for purpose & needs addressing asap. If we all have to pay more tax then so be it, eg with all this unemployment how can we have 38k nursing vacancies?
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03/01/2021 12:45:39 5 7
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When he says probably I think he’s just warming us up for definitely if only he was strong enough to take the reins some peas fish is on the table and get things done
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03/01/2021 12:45:50 561 55
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"tens of millions" vaccinated in the next 3 months.

Meet this and I think the public will go along with it. Failure to deliver and it will be time for Hancock and Boris to go.
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03/01/2021 12:50:03 291 119
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"Tens of millions" still a fraction of the UK population. So how long will it take to vaccinate us all? More than a year, even according to his own blustering.
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03/01/2021 12:50:03 31 6
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And williamson.
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03/01/2021 13:13:21 33 14
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It was time for them to go even before the last election
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03/01/2021 13:24:36 27 25
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They've lied enough. They don't deserve another chance. Useless oxygen thiefs.
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03/01/2021 13:27:16 16 19
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It's time now for them to go .
03/01/2021 13:49:06 5 26
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The idiots running Nationalised Healthcare Stalinist regime will make sure it fails.

Time to stop the NHS CV response and let the army run it.
Conscript the medical staff to make them behave
03/01/2021 13:56:48 7 5
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How do you propose to get rid of a PM who has an 80 seat majority?
03/01/2021 14:10:51 1 10
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It is time for them to go now - too many errors and the vaccine rollout is so important we Sanjay let buffoons muck it up
03/01/2021 14:16:31 2 6
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“Boris” is a term of endearment. Call him Johnson.
03/01/2021 14:26:16 3 5
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I am really concerned that this is not going happen . All the facilities in my area have been set up for weeks but still awaiting any vaccines at all . It seems highly unlikely that the Gov commitment of 2 million a week will ever happen even if it steps up to 750k, a week it will be into next year before majority are vaccinated
03/01/2021 14:32:34 4 6
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It is time for them to go now. More people have died than should have done because of their mistakes.
03/01/2021 14:35:05 2 5
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They should have gone many years ago.
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03/01/2021 14:28:30 3 1
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And you have a magic wand?
03/01/2021 16:37:28 2 4
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I think you have forgotton about the 20 million shots supposed to be stockpiled starting Autum, so as soon as we got a green light on Oxford/Astra then we had bags in stock. Where is all this? Yep same as all the other promises. Now we are having to split the jab as it isn't about. Boris & his gang need to go.
03/01/2021 16:40:18 0 4
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I wouldn’t trust the government to run a bath
As for the world beating track and trace that cost billions
It couldn’t beat and egg
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03/01/2021 16:46:26 1 3
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Sadly I doubt Boris will go any time soon. He has helped create a political age where even the most laughable excuses and bare faced lies are insufficient to cost you your job.
03/01/2021 16:51:03 3 0
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Couldn't agree more. Science has done its bit and now it is a logistical challenge. A good start would be to remove the red tape facing those wanting to become vaccinators, ensure that the equipment and infrastrucure is in place and more generally ensure that this exercise is done as efficiently and effectively as humanly possible. No room for error or excuses!
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03/01/2021 16:52:37 0 1
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That ship sailed
03/01/2021 17:01:28 0 2
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They should have gone ten months ago
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03/01/2021 12:45:52 25 24
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I thought Andrew Marr did nothing except try and catch the Prime Minister out or trip him up rather than ask the questions we all require answering.

His "impartial" Scottish brexit thing at the end demonstrated that his style of show is now very dated, achieves very little and really has no place in modern TV interviewing.
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03/01/2021 12:51:17 12 1
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the trouble is in those kinds of interview, you never get any answers,
PMQ's is exactly that , just no answers, unless they answer a totally different irrelevant question
03/01/2021 17:58:11 1 0
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That last point was bizarre, it's the BBC's Andrew Marr Show not his own Opinion show and shocked me a bit but the media at present is so very poor no matter which outlet you follow!
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03/01/2021 12:45:56 394 66
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Why are children in tier 4 London different to children in other tier 4 areas? We will not be sending ours in as it is clear they will decide to close schools in a weeks time.
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03/01/2021 12:57:24 292 36
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Quite agree, I've got family in London and somerset, both in tier 4, but somerset primary school is going back, London isn't.
Again here we go with confusion, surely we have to have the same rules as the same tier, if not you might as well let somerset pubs open and remain shut in London, while opening London shops and leaving Somerset shops closed. Kids can carry this awful disease
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03/01/2021 13:06:14 30 15
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Parents in Tier 4 outside London need to vote with their feet. Don’t send your kids to school. If it isn’t safe in Tier 4 London it isn’t safe in any other Tier 4 area. The risks within Tiers are supposed to be the same. If the risks are nit the same drop Tier 4 areas with schools open back to Tier 3 or move London into a new Tier 5. You can’t have different rules within the same Tiers.
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03/01/2021 13:09:26 18 41
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ALL primary schools should be back.
03/01/2021 13:10:27 19 34
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Then you will be fined. I despair of parents like you trusting social media for your information and crating mass hysteria.
03/01/2021 14:35:39 11 12
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Mine isn't going back either. Obviously, his life is not as important as a child living in London, so his education can't matter that much either, can it?
03/01/2021 14:38:17 14 2
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Because of the infection rate per 100,000 as a measure. Try keeping up with what is going on.
03/01/2021 15:16:14 7 4
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Hope you get fined
03/01/2021 16:52:11 5 1
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AHHHHH! It's not the children that are the reason, it's to do with hospital capacity etc. If you think schools will close in a month all the more reason to send now so they miss less education.
03/01/2021 18:09:15 1 0
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It depends on why am address is in tier 4. A key risk element is the infection rate and in many tier 4 areas it is nowhere near as high as in London. We will need another week to see the effect of tier 4 in our area.
03/01/2021 18:12:46 0 1
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Captain Cavein and his ever famous amount of U-turns! Yep, expect everything you have read about schools to change in a few days!
03/01/2021 18:37:37 2 0
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I live under tier 4 at 130/100,000, not quite the same as Essex at 1200/100,000?
sap
03/01/2021 18:46:32 1 0
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In London area and south east have 40,000 cases plus, but other tier four have less cases out of the 50,000 +
03/01/2021 19:30:03 0 1
bbc
It’s called levelling up. He wants all areas in Tier 4 to have the same rates of the virus.
03/01/2021 21:10:41 1 0
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Because the rates are prob three times higher in London, even though same tier.
04/01/2021 07:45:48 0 0
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It's because they will always protect the voting belt , which happens to be near and around the capital. Elsewhere we are just considered fodder that can fall by the wayside. Why do you think it took so long for the south to come under restrict and why it is funded better by all government , but especially Tory. No incidence.
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03/01/2021 12:45:57 16 10
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Tiers don't work. Businesses that can operate remotely are still requiring staff to go to the office. That will not help reduce infection rates. One month lockdown needed, by then the vaccine rollout should be well underway
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03/01/2021 12:51:08 17 3
bbc
Clearly your financially safe then. Those of us whose jobs have gone due to these months of suppression won't agree
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03/01/2021 12:46:25 58 8
bbc
I no longer watch any polititians on the news

They never tell the truth, and make nothing but dubious false promises
03/01/2021 14:31:21 11 10
bbc
If you dont watch them any more, then how do you know?
03/01/2021 19:36:43 0 1
bbc
Johnson top of the pile
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03/01/2021 12:46:28 12 10
bbc
Cracking new year they had in Wuhan.
448
03/01/2021 13:09:37 8 1
bbc
Not yet, the Chinese New Year starts on Feb 12th.
20
03/01/2021 12:46:32 11 8
bbc
More restrictions! Great idea, thats bound to work.....
21
03/01/2021 12:43:12 5 4
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Big Boris is watching you...
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03/01/2021 12:44:16 410 30
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oi,mr prime minister.if you want the public to do has they are told.do something about the singers,mps,footballers,celebs etc.that have and still are using celebrity priviledge.money talks obviously.
03/01/2021 16:37:45 98 24
bbc
Johnson part of that crowd
03/01/2021 17:33:53 6 0
bbc
Margaret Ferrier still to be dealt with by Westminster and her party
03/01/2021 18:10:23 2 1
bbc
You can't look at what others are trying to get away with, we can only control or own behaviour.
03/01/2021 18:20:05 4 3
bbc
Mr Johnson knows what will happen if the schools close again, the children will all end up writing English like alfreton red.
03/01/2021 21:07:46 1 0
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The law is there. It is up to the enforcers to enforce it.
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03/01/2021 12:44:40 1102 82
bbc
The PM says schools are safe. It might be safe for the pupils to return as they are the least likely to get symptoms of the virus. However they can still carry and spread it.
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03/01/2021 12:49:26 311 36
bbc
So true
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03/01/2021 12:58:34 24 16
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And you think because schools are closed children will stay at home? I work in a supermarket in a tier 4 area where schools are not reopening, which has been full of children and whole families shopping over Xmas and will continue to be the family day out until schools reopen.
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xlr
03/01/2021 13:04:54 30 7
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Also, to add: Children, with their weak immune response, will almost never die of covid.

But that resistance seems also to provide the ideal viral reservoir to develop new strains. One of which is now a strain that spreads twice as fast.
404
03/01/2021 13:07:46 26 4
bbc
At the school attended by my granddaughter several of the teachers come within the vulnerable area. If they go sick the school will have to close anyway.
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03/01/2021 13:08:41 15 26
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Don't forget, though, if you shut schools, some parents need to take time off work, including NHS staff. Shut schools, close some parts of the NHS. NHS is already struggling, can't keep business as usual with even fewer staff.
03/01/2021 13:34:59 18 9
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Closing schools pushes the problem elsewhere as parents then drag them to supermarket etc. many kids are carrying it because their parents work in non covid safe workplaces. That’s where it needs to be controlled. Limit numbers into supermarkets, insist all non essential/key worker must allowed to work from home or if not they must be furloughed. Workplaces are a breeding ground not just schools
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03/01/2021 13:08:03 33 15
bbc
I think the reopening of schools caused the second wave and the mutation.
03/01/2021 13:08:09 10 17
bbc
Not according to all the scientific evidence worldwide! Keep to social media with your misinformation
03/01/2021 13:40:40 6 3
bbc
There are more cases coming from care homes than school, and we continue to discharge covid positive patients back to care homes, the article is on the BBC if you search
03/01/2021 13:42:37 8 6
bbc
Let him come and teach in them then. Let the buffoon lead by example.
03/01/2021 13:16:03 4 6
bbc
Well tell Johnson, it is he who bumbles along putting teachers and other workers at risk . But many of you voted for this utter clown !
03/01/2021 13:55:32 4 6
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The PM has the big picture, the PM also has the national information. I believe his information over that of an armchair expert pontificating from his sink estate.
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03/01/2021 14:06:35 3 3
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Are they safe though for the staff? Or don't they matter?
03/01/2021 14:11:44 0 2
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The tighter you squeeze, the more will escape your grasp.

Boris needs to understand this idea quickly. The majority are behaving worse under Tiers 3 and 4 than the were under Tier 2, because they don't feel it's being handled in a competent or honest way. The school situation is a big part of that.

Fewer are wearing masks than ever. A Tier 5 will be ignored / pushed against even more.
03/01/2021 14:13:14 3 6
bbc
Yes darling its your fault you killed Granny because you went to school don't blame the naughty clown Boris..
03/01/2021 14:21:12 5 4
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Agree! Such an insult to our intelligence that statement. Children may be fine but they are unwittingly spreading it between households and to vulnerable teachers. Crazy...
03/01/2021 14:28:04 0 2
bbc
"The PM says schools are safe."

That's OK then, it must be true, after all, he is well known for his honesty...
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03/01/2021 14:45:15 0 2
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If it is so safe for children to go to school and then go home to their families, perhaps Bozo would like to have all his kids round to stay for the duration!

Thought not.
03/01/2021 14:47:17 6 0
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If they aren't at school a good percentage of them will be getting dragged round the supermarkets to spread it that way.
03/01/2021 14:50:09 1 0
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The problem with schools is not the risk of pupil-to-pupil infection. Rather it is the parents (and grandparents) who congregate at the school gates twice a day - no masks and no social distancing.
03/01/2021 15:20:06 2 0
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The virus will spread if kids are kept out of school anyway, unless your proposal is to incarcerate them at home for 3 to 6 months ?
03/01/2021 15:28:14 3 1
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Get them back to school. The kids interact with the same people every day and regular testing will mitigate outbreaks. It’s the lesser of two evils.
The alternative, to leave them out of school, means they will interact more widely and struggling parents won’t be able to work.
03/01/2021 15:43:18 1 2
bbc
He'll probably wait till they've been back 2 weeks and then lockdown are actively.
me
03/01/2021 16:04:05 0 2
bbc
Believe the exact opposite of what Boris and his cronies say
03/01/2021 16:20:14 2 0
bbc
Yes and they will be out on the street or in the supermarket if they are not at school
03/01/2021 16:30:56 1 2
bbc
I wish I could share my data stats dashboard demonstrating the impact of COVID on our school attendance, let alone staff illness due to COVID. The goverment are not collecting detailed data from schools. It doesn't suit their narrative about schools being safe, the reverse. It's as big an issue as the care homes situation. Except nobody wants to accept it, schools are spreading this virus.
03/01/2021 16:39:28 0 2
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Yes school children spread it to older people in their families! This was what was happening in December and especially with the new variant!
03/01/2021 17:24:50 1 1
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Government is incompetent.
03/01/2021 18:18:25 0 1
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And what about staff? I am a 56 year teacher, infected at school, I then passed it to my family. We were lucky as none suffered serious illness. There is no social distancing in school. We have poorly ventilated classrooms. We badger students regards masks but teenagers feel immortal and are regularly not wearing them in communal areas. We are not expendible. Boris's deceipt is mind boggling.
03/01/2021 18:20:28 1 0
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yawn
03/01/2021 18:51:32 0 0
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03/01/2021 19:02:36 1 0
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You sell your house, give away your pension to pay for shutting down 5 million businesses. If you refuse, shut up.
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03/01/2021 12:45:12 88 28
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FULL lockdown, including closure of all sea and airports forthwith required for at least the next month, nothing else will do.
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03/01/2021 12:49:40 26 50
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Just condemned your family friends relatives coworkers to possibly unemployment homelessness sueyside then!!!!!!
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03/01/2021 12:53:35 6 1
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But how will you get your Waitrose fois gras?
03/01/2021 14:00:31 10 3
bbc
AS a government scientist with a guaranteed job , secure pension and no business to run i agree completely
03/01/2021 14:30:15 1 2
bbc
did you not see the shelves empty after 3 days of no food deliveries through dover?
after a month the nation will all be very thin!
03/01/2021 17:23:10 2 2
bbc
You maybe right but I think the HYS staff need to start asking posters to declare their employment status when making comments...
03/01/2021 18:43:07 1 0
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Well say goodbye to your job, pension, roof over your head. Unless you have a cushty role where you never have to worry about all of the aforementioned?
04/01/2021 10:38:49 0 0
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Does that include freight? We would run out of food, JIT components and the Covid Vaccine from Belgium. You have obviously not thought it through, unless you are just referring to passenger travel.
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03/01/2021 12:46:51 16 28
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I wish the media would get off his back. The agenda is so negative on everything. 1mil at risk people vacinated already come on BBC lèts be a little more positive.
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03/01/2021 12:49:07 12 11
bbc
No because we are know he is a complete idiot and lies
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03/01/2021 12:49:37 3 7
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It's the BBC, positivity will never be there, it's not on their agenda!
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03/01/2021 12:53:18 6 7
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No, the government is entirely to blame for the appalling figures in this country . They must be held to account for loss of life terrible economy and corruption
Bunter reminded me of that interview with Prince Andrew. You could see he was squirming trying to avoid answering and lying Removed
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03/01/2021 12:45:11 609 135
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No matter how tough the rules are there will always be those idiots who ignore them and put the rest of the population at increased risk.
risk from what? rebranded flu. Removed
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03/01/2021 12:50:39 80 17
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It's not flu.
It's not the comment I normally make. But in your case "idiot" is a scientific fit. Removed
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03/01/2021 12:52:36 70 15
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'risk from what? rebranded flu'

Do give us the evidence you are basing your opinion on.
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03/01/2021 12:57:07 37 7
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I hope you enjoyed your new years celebrations and christmas get together with friends and family...
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03/01/2021 12:58:49 106 6
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And that comment illustrates exactly the attitude of people who feel they are entitled to do what they want irrespective of the consequences to others.
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Vid
03/01/2021 13:02:48 74 10
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And there’s the issue right there. The reason we now have Tier 4 lockdown and probably worse to come is because of this attitude. Grow up and let’s get on with the yer please.
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03/01/2021 13:08:54 65 19
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Don't ever remember flu so completely overwhelming hospitals. And if a flu was threatening to overwhelm hospitals in the same way you can be sure we would be doing exactly what we are doing now.
What is it you do again?
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03/01/2021 13:12:49 43 8
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congrats mate, you have just proved the evolution going backwards theory!!! its fools like you that have made the situation as bad as it is now, arrogance and stupidity ... a bad pairing
Prat. Removed
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TB
03/01/2021 13:00:58 8 1
bbc
Need a little attention today do we, professor?
03/01/2021 13:47:10 15 1
bbc
Here we go armchair virologist speaks. Rebranded flu my backside, it's people like yourself why this has gone this far. If you think it's rebranded please explain? I give up with special people.
03/01/2021 13:51:42 12 0
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And the ignorance in your comment illustrates perfectly why the virus continues to spread and cases rise.
03/01/2021 14:00:21 5 0
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This type of irresponsible comment is part of the problem
03/01/2021 14:04:04 5 1
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God spare us from people like you who still think that it's a scam.
CLM
03/01/2021 14:14:46 5 0
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Let’s hope you & yours don’t need a hospital bed anytime soon, you might find the “ Inn is full”
03/01/2021 14:31:13 4 0
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Must be bliss in your land of ignorance !
03/01/2021 14:32:12 3 0
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Pillock
03/01/2021 14:36:01 2 0
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You clown...jog on
03/01/2021 14:18:53 2 0
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People like you need a tour of an ICU to see the real damage this virus can do
Selfish beyond belief
03/01/2021 14:29:20 2 0
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Risk from people like you.
03/01/2021 15:05:25 1 1
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An exceptional comment. Well done.
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03/01/2021 12:46:59 13 33
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It's essential schools open for the sake of the pupils and parents who can't work as well as teach their children. Teaching unions never think about the consequences of their actions.
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03/01/2021 12:49:58 8 12
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Spot on. The impact on our kids education of the choices we make today will be felt for decades to come.
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03/01/2021 12:57:10 1 4
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The unions think carefully before they act as they are always 1st to be "attacked" for doing what is right for their members. Teachers are in schools and know that they are not really safe. Bubbles exist but are crossed all the time, and many parents do nothing to help as they will not comply with even the tier rules let alone the school's. Kids do pass it on 1 did to me. I now have long covid.
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03/01/2021 13:03:20 1 3
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Schools have remained open throughout for the children of essential workers and children most at risk. Teaching unions aren’t challenging that. They’re trying to serve the best interests of they’re members and communities based on the science available.
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03/01/2021 12:47:05 346 35
bbc
A little tighter here a little relaxer there, a bit of this a bit of that. People don't know what's happening tomorrow apart from nothing works and everyone is in misery. Great job!
03/01/2021 13:45:12 97 254
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Too many establishment morons still don't realise that lockdowns are useless for containing cold virus outbreaks.
03/01/2021 13:59:59 5 23
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I bet you are a bundle of fun at home.
03/01/2021 14:32:58 4 1
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I'm sure you are glued to the news?
03/01/2021 15:34:36 6 13
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How sad you are, nothing works! Just tell that to the key workers keeping everything working. Everyone is in misery! Absolute rubbish, get a life
Dew
03/01/2021 15:55:16 2 0
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??
03/01/2021 21:09:13 2 1
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The laws are there but local councils choose to do what they want.
03/01/2021 23:27:03 2 0
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I was against masks when they were introduced at the end of July. I've since been to Dubai and they wear them everywhere and their figures are really low. I now believe they should be compulsory outside your home or car. Lets make it law
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Joe
03/01/2021 12:47:06 122 30
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I'm not defending the government for their handling of this whatsoever (that includes the first ministers too) but let's be honest even if we had Jacinda Ardern in charge here you'd still get the idiots thinking the rules are above them
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03/01/2021 12:56:03 63 16
bbc
Call it a Cummings.
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03/01/2021 12:57:02 12 4
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You say that but arguably the behaviour of our politicians influences the public's behaviour. Calm unifying language in NZ is much more effective than divisive language common here.
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03/01/2021 13:01:34 6 2
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Not if there were penalties and we'd closed our borders from the start.
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03/01/2021 12:47:09 48 33
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Enough is enough with these lockdowns. Clearly not effective. Find a better way. And the vast majority are acting sensibly and carefully despite the skewed press coverage.
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03/01/2021 12:51:30 20 12
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Lockdown isn't working for you.
Tiers aren't working for you.
There's not enough vaccine to go round, and you won't see it until later this year earliest.

What is your better way?
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03/01/2021 12:52:25 13 6
bbc
The problem with what you're saying is that it ignores facts. Lockdowns do work and are the reason we don't have many times more dead. These are not binary choices and over-simplification is extremely dangerous.
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03/01/2021 12:59:28 8 5
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It’s not working because 12 guys played dominos. Is that really the best the media can do?
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03/01/2021 13:01:43 8 2
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And what is your better way, exactly?
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03/01/2021 12:47:12 87 25
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I know let's get all the little kids into school so that they all get the virus and then anyone with grandparents in their family bubble can kiss them goodbye. This buffoon couldn't lead a dog!
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03/01/2021 13:01:30 48 2
bbc
Care home carers and community carers tend to have kids due to the flexibility the job allows.
Test one day, but child brings it home the next. That’s how things spread so easily in care.
03/01/2021 13:57:36 2 1
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'anyone with grandparents can kiss them goodbye' - lol, really? Even over 80s have a greater than 90% chance of surviving Covid. The 'Don't kill granny' scare messaging has really got to some people.
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03/01/2021 12:47:32 33 17
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Just get this vaccine rolled out as top priority, end all this nonsense as quickly as possible, does this idiot not understand that lockdowns etc just havent worked ? Enough is enough
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03/01/2021 12:49:38 22 0
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It's not the fault of "this idiot" it's the fault of the morons who think the rules don't apply to them. Even starmer couldn't change that.
03/01/2021 13:26:54 1 0
bbc
Because SAGE are still pretending that lockdowns do work, and if he doesn't do what they tell him all the idiots will say 'BUT HE'S NOT FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE!!!'
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03/01/2021 12:45:03 1705 432
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Watching Johnson waffling, denying and obfuscating clearly annoyed Andre Marr this morning, not just me. Why did the UK elect a clown?
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03/01/2021 12:47:37 1007 182
bbc
Because Corbyn got a C- in the juggling exam.
It doesn't mean you had to vote for this idiot Removed
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03/01/2021 13:16:10 16 13
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That does not explain why the Tories elected him their leader. Anyone would have beat Corbyn. Rory Stewart would have made a great PM. So Johnston got rid of him.
03/01/2021 13:17:41 6 3
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Yep , Boris got in because there was no better alternative. What a sad situation. I have always said, the British vote out governments, not vote them in. And it swings Labour-conservative and back like a rugby scrum stuck on the centre line for eternity.
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03/01/2021 12:47:45 58 21
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What's the point now,the press just kept moving Boris date back,now they say end of year, yesterday it was Easter.Boris will liar all through this virus like everything else and the press will agree and if you comment against Boris the BBC now remove your views.We are all fedup
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03/01/2021 13:07:49 24 5
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Haven't seen a pro-Johnson view yet.
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03/01/2021 12:47:46 74 10
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Well I can’t see how it can tougher for those of us who follow the tier 4 rules unless they are going to start delivering food parcels.
And for those who don’t follow the rules it won’t get tougher anyhow because they will just continue to ignore them , then when caught they will just say “I’m deeply sorry “ and then continue to spread the virus.
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03/01/2021 12:52:33 85 4
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Especially the celebrities who continue to flout the rules and then apologise for their actions. We will never be rid of this virus until we all pull together
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03/01/2021 12:53:03 5 8
bbc
Stopping the scandemic and scaremongering is the only way out of this crisis
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03/01/2021 12:55:08 1 5
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Perhaps they should call the “I’m deeply sorry “ a Cummings?
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03/01/2021 13:08:59 0 3
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They can close schools, colleges and universities. Not much else left to close now.
03/01/2021 13:12:56 3 12
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Curfew is tougher. Governments are voted in to Govern and not Control and they need to understand that.
Any further rules and i will stop following. Im sorry i know loads of people that have had covid with minimal affect, my local hospitals are asleep as minimal patients, and my childs school had 1 covid child in 1000 pupils over 2.5 months but in TIER4

The lies are slowly showing!
03/01/2021 13:25:00 0 3
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They will tell everyone who isn't in an 'essential job' that we're not allowed to earn any money again.
03/01/2021 14:01:10 0 1
bbc
Who is going to deliver the food parcels ?
Surely under level 7 those people should be locked up at home too ?
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03/01/2021 12:47:50 7 8
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Continual prodding of the populace with the Rona stick after nearly year unfortunately will may millions bite back!!!!!!!
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03/01/2021 12:47:53 1828 269
bbc
Test and trace cost 20 billion,the biggest waste of money in British history
No, it comes second. Brexit beats it by miles. Removed
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03/01/2021 12:56:54 358 72
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Not to the Tories who profited from it
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03/01/2021 12:58:40 251 87
bbc
That's nothing to the cost of HS2 now there is the biggest waste of money in history plus what WE tax payers pay BoJo every year again a waste of money.
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03/01/2021 13:01:24 274 40
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many tory cronies, benefitting from no bid contracts would beg to differ.
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03/01/2021 13:06:52 78 41
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Well I doubt the government ever wanted it to be all that successful anyway.

But if you are going to appease the public with an ineffective track and trace system you have to throw a certain amount of money at it to make it look serious. 20bn isn't a waste if it makes the government look like they tried.

That said I suspect some of that 20bn was siphoned off to other higher priority causes.
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03/01/2021 13:07:06 54 95
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No it didn't.
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03/01/2021 13:08:24 134 273
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Rubbish, every other country has had exactly the same problems with their test and trace systems.
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03/01/2021 13:09:59 151 31
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Not sure the private sector companies that got the contract would see it as a waste, they have done very well from it.
It's also completely coincidental that they are Tkry backers.

The vaccine costs a fortune to administer and store, and GPs that have taken it on are losing money on it. I wonder why the Tories aren't giving that to their mates to roll out?
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03/01/2021 13:10:03 187 32
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It's Tory trickle-down economics in action. Those private sector government cronies will use their taxpayer cash to buy large cars and houses, and some day, if we're very lucky and don't do anything troublesome like demand rights democratically, even us undeserving proles may get a job cleaning their windscreens and pruning their gardens.

Level... UP!!
*GUITAR RIFF*
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03/01/2021 13:11:51 12 47
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"Test and trace cost 20 billion"

No is didn't. Cost was in millions no billions. Still far too much but T&T has also failed in France and Germany.
530
03/01/2021 13:12:37 25 7
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Another Johnston Lie.
554
03/01/2021 13:13:34 54 4
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Agreed. My neighbour is a track and tracer. £1000 per month and she's working full time as well. She admits she's taking it in and just carrying around s laptop and mobile phone. The govt/taxpayer is being scammed once again by large corporations. A bit like building schools for the future. Business always sees an opportunity for financial gain and completely outwits the government
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03/01/2021 13:15:12 18 23
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I think you will find phoney Blair’s illegal war cost a bit more than that.
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03/01/2021 13:15:19 0 2
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Never knew that. I'll write to my MP, see what he has to say.
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03/01/2021 13:16:44 4 5
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That's a ridiculously high amount. Does it include a rocket to the Moon? Something is not right there.
691
03/01/2021 13:18:37 20 4
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And employees of Deloitte received bonuses this year. I wonder why?
03/01/2021 13:33:20 8 2
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Very true. They are bankrupting this country.
03/01/2021 13:35:15 19 4
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Brexit has cost 200 billioan already, and is going to keep on costing us for decades to come. T&T is bad, but the government deliberately threw away many times more.
03/01/2021 13:42:55 9 1
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Not as far as Dido Harding is concerned, it was money well spent, lining her pockets at tax payers expense, whilst as usual making a pigs ear of the task in hand.
03/01/2021 13:47:56 4 1
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Most of that money has gone towards testing, not on tracing.
03/01/2021 13:58:25 6 0
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The biggest waste of money in British history? Don't be silly. HS-2 has already surpassed that by the figure of 10 and will pass the £320 billion if it is ever completed.
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03/01/2021 12:47:55 1201 268
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If we just implemented a proper lockdown for a month or so and closed our borders, the numbers would fall significantly. New Zealand is largely open internally having done so.

Even at this late stage it's not too late to follow their lead.

It has to be the quickest and cheapest solution.

We've squandered the advantage of being an island.
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03/01/2021 12:55:21 591 57
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Far too late for that sadly the virus is endemic in the uk. But it might have worked 12 months ago.
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03/01/2021 12:56:48 70 41
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New Zealand is similar area as the UK with a really small population so not really any good to compare .
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03/01/2021 12:58:04 68 20
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The Home Secretary Priti Pathetic seems to think the UK is "Ahead of the curve".
This government is living in a delusional Westminster bubble devoid of reality.
You can't simply bluster a befuddle your way out of this. We need some decisive pre-emptive action.
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03/01/2021 12:59:06 61 16
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100% agree. As usual in Britain we firefight rather than being proactive. I accepted the 'figuring it out as we go along' last March but now we should be more ready. We've all know the vaccines are coming yet we are now starting to talk about logistics - that should have been planned weeks or months ago. We should be vaccinated 24x7 now.
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03/01/2021 12:59:19 88 38
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New Zealand's population is HALF the size of London's and spread over 2 islands.

Chalk & cheese.

We are paying a price in part for an over populated island.
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03/01/2021 13:00:42 51 11
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the biggest difference is in cultural attitudes plus space between people.
Plus NZ is completely different in terms of travel numbers...
And I assume you're happy to close down businesses and not be paid for that month.
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03/01/2021 13:02:40 48 42
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Couldn't agree more. The population is smaller in New Zealand but the principle is still the same and would work with any island nation.
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03/01/2021 13:08:31 49 24
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New Zealand is covid free largely because of it's small population, it's far away and not a hub for international trade and travel. Ridiculous to compare. You'll find on average 10 people in a supermarket at a time. I know, I've lived there
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03/01/2021 13:11:52 16 4
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That would use common sense. This Government doesn't have any of that.
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03/01/2021 13:12:30 14 2
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Population 4.5 million in an area twice the size of England. Nearest neighbour 2500 miles West is Australia with a population of 25 million. Antarctica to the South, Alaska & Vladivostok 10000 miles North, Tierra del Fuego thousands of miles to the East. Heathrow has more international passenger traffic than all New Zealand airports put together. How did the virus even got into New Zealand?
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03/01/2021 13:18:17 12 3
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Possibly, let's not forget that New Zealand is a big country split over two large islands and has half the population of London. A bit like comparing apples with mountain goats....Far far far easier to control a virus over there.
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03/01/2021 13:23:50 9 4
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Totally agree but BJ was mugged by the travel industry. Profit before people again. They actually threatened court action while bodies were piling up all over the world!
Allowed uninhibited travel from India the where did it all kick off. Northwick Park was the first hospital to raise the white flag.
Then, Oldham, Manchester, Bradford and Leicester!
Arlene Foster missed it too TBF in NI,!
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03/01/2021 13:27:50 12 4
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It's too late. Everyone is lockdown weary and also divided. NZ got together as one team early on. Plus the rules and punishments were way harsher than anyone could contemplate here. Opportunity is gone am afraid
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03/01/2021 12:50:10 5 2
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no way,will the goverment try to stop the tourist money flying into heathrow.agree with your post though.
03/01/2021 13:33:48 0 4
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Tell me. How exactly would you shut our borders?
How many people have 4 weeks food in hand for a 'total lockdown' ?

Idiot
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03/01/2021 13:49:17 3 4
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There is a massive difference between a small country a thousand miles from anywhere which the vast majority of us will never visit, and a densely populated country 20 miles from a continental land mass. You can swim or get across in a dingy, and lots of our food needs to be transported in from abroad
dp
03/01/2021 13:51:38 2 7
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Because New Zealand has a population the size of Manchester and is 1500 miles from the nearest populated landmass. It was easier to lock down in NZ than the UK with 65 million and open borders with the EU or would you prefer everyone to be out of work and starve to death?
03/01/2021 13:52:05 1 7
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Here we go again: New Zealand has a population half that of London on an island about the size of the UK and is not an international air hub. That is why New Zealand got over COVID more quickly.
03/01/2021 13:52:32 4 0
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It was really easy for NZ, their people did as they were told.
It is too late for us! People from tier 4 are out today in the national parks, absolute thick idiots. And when anybody dares to point out that they are infringing the rules abuse is hurled at them. Selfish arrogance of our society.
03/01/2021 14:02:48 0 0
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Too late. The virus is already too widespread in the U.K.
03/01/2021 13:59:36 2 6
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You have obviously never looked at a world map have you? Typical lefty nonsense, too busy studying identity politics to actually know any facts about subjects such as geography and business .
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03/01/2021 14:05:18 1 2
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I suppose New Zealand’s extremely low population density has nothing to do with it?
03/01/2021 14:15:54 1 3
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No it won't, it hasn't worked anywhere else on the planet, unless you count a country 1500 miles from anywhere with the population density of Antarctica.
03/01/2021 14:24:25 2 2
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Great idea, lets compare 2 islands the same size, one with a population of nearly 70 million and the other with 4 million. The UK imports 80% of its food, NZ is mostly self suffient. The UK mainland is 20 miles from its nearest neighbour and has an open boarder in Ireland. NZ is 2500 miles from its nearesr neighbour.
Actually, lets not compare the UK and NZ, its pretty stupid.
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03/01/2021 14:14:51 3 3
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New Zealand are 3 hrs flying time from anywhere

We were part of the EU with thousands of migrants coming in. Some legal others not.

Hopefully now it will be easier to control our borders
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03/01/2021 12:45:03 1705 432
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Watching Johnson waffling, denying and obfuscating clearly annoyed Andre Marr this morning, not just me. Why did the UK elect a clown?
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03/01/2021 12:48:01 114 80
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Cos everybody wanted brexit that's why he got the job.
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03/01/2021 13:11:38 32 5
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Not everyone
03/01/2021 13:42:22 8 5
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Everybody?... more like... we have archaic undemocratic, unrepresentative voting system.
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03/01/2021 12:45:03 1705 432
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Watching Johnson waffling, denying and obfuscating clearly annoyed Andre Marr this morning, not just me. Why did the UK elect a clown?
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03/01/2021 12:48:07 119 256
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Andrew Marrxist usually interrupts any guest politically to the right of Lenin whilst allowing his hard-left guests to prattle on.
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03/01/2021 13:03:37 182 54
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Your comment has to be irony surely, Marr is a member of the Tory prty and does the excat opposite of what you have typed. Honestly, with people with your level of idiocy theres no wonder the Tories get voted in.
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03/01/2021 13:06:38 61 9
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Lol... Marr is a self confessed Tory!
03/01/2021 13:33:29 4 2
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Eye of the beholder, eh?
03/01/2021 13:35:05 9 8
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Another one who can’t handle impartial reporting after the BBC’s pandering to the right wing for so long.
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03/01/2021 12:48:14 1110 233
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Watching Marr interview the PM just brings to mind how very poor and uninformative today’s interviewers are compared to the likes of Brian Walden of days gone past. Instead of asking a question and allowing the PM to answer, he continually interrupts and we learn little. Marr needs to understand am interview isn’t about him it’s about the issue being discussed.
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03/01/2021 12:52:33 661 273
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Totally agree Mr Marr just so rude and ignorant .
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03/01/2021 12:53:29 105 11
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A lot of presenters are like rabid terriers in butting in. They should let the interviewee speak and then tell them they haven't answered the question when they haven't and let the audience decide on the policy.
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03/01/2021 12:53:30 127 49
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Then it would help if the person being interviewed would actually discuss the issue instead of dodging it and evading giving any kind of answer. Perhaps then there wouldn't be as much need to interrupt them and redirect them to the point in hand. Unfortunately, the government seems to think that simply talking over someone counts as discussion. I consider it basic bad manners and ignorance.
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03/01/2021 12:53:46 134 45
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Johnson just waffles and obfuscates. The Public want real answers instead.
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03/01/2021 12:59:39 24 9
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To right Brian would have done the job - the theme tune set the scene .
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03/01/2021 13:01:58 34 2
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There is personal history between Marr and Johnson. Their interviews are never going to be pleasant affairs.
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03/01/2021 13:05:37 110 28
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How often has Johnson ever given a relevant answer to any question?
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03/01/2021 13:11:50 14 32
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The problem with these hedonistic people is that its all about them. They are there to do a job not just self promote their own woke agenda's
Ask real tough questions please I want to see the narrative challenged. I feel were being lied too. One reason were all not pulling together were divided which does not help the situation. I no longer follow orders becasue they are that orders.
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03/01/2021 13:12:22 26 15
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So 100% right!!!!!!!!!! Marr is a communist, part of Aunty's army of woke destruction. Only idiots listen and be brainwashed.
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03/01/2021 13:16:08 19 14
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All we want is simple straight-forward answers within a maximum of 5 sentences per question. Not this continual waffle of long, mainly unused words to the general public (unless you went to Eton), with the aim of giving the impression he knows what he's talking about. We know he avoids interviews with competent journalists such as Andrew Neill.
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03/01/2021 13:16:58 19 12
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'... Marr needs to understand am interview isn’t about him...'

But his salary says otherwise. That's the problem, the BBC (and they're not alone) make 'stars' out of these people, can't be surprised if they try to earn their pay.
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RPH
03/01/2021 13:18:46 28 19
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Seemed to me Mr. Marr was just trying to get Johnson to actually say something with substance. Given the chance, Johnson will just waffle and lie for the entire interview.
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03/01/2021 13:21:09 18 12
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Problem is they used to give informative answers. Now we just get repeated waffle of no substance often with no relevance to the question at all.
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03/01/2021 13:25:07 16 10
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Brian Walden was known for giving politicians a very easy ride. Margaret Thatcher loved him. While over interruption can be an issue, I think most people would prefer this to the deferential approach 'anything else you'd like to say, sir' of 50 or 60 years ago.
03/01/2021 13:32:37 9 12
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Oh really!!! ter. You were obviously watching a different interview. Poor Andrew Marr couldn't get in to ask any questions with Johnsons continual waffling. He was so arrogant smiling at the camera. A complete narcissist!!
03/01/2021 13:34:50 13 6
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Totally agree, Marr came across as arrogant and ill informed. Juggling all aspects of a situation is what a government has to do, 100% focus on Covid alone won't help anyone in the long term and when all is done may well have led to more deaths and economic misery.
03/01/2021 13:37:36 12 6
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Totally agree, political interviewing has got to improve, Andrew Marr has had his day and needs to be replaced. BBC are a politically biased organisation, Question Time is just as bad, which doesn't help.
03/01/2021 13:41:23 9 5
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Very true! Very unprofessional interviewing
03/01/2021 13:44:29 11 6
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He doesn't want to hear what a conservative prime minister says, he has his own agenda. Watch how he treats Kier Starman next week!
03/01/2021 13:48:53 8 8
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If he asked a question and kept quiet until Johnson finished speaking the "interview" would consist of one question. He has to interrupt to try to get the buffoon to answer points rather than waffling gibberish for ten minutes.
03/01/2021 13:52:29 7 0
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Apparently Andrew Marr is paid £600000 a year. Why?
03/01/2021 13:53:57 0 4
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I didn't watch it but if politicians would just answer the questions asked of them instead of waffling.
03/01/2021 13:56:56 9 0
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Pretty much sums up UK TV these days whichever channel you watch - they are all adversarial and the papers are gutter press these days. Sensationalism sells not news and facts
03/01/2021 14:01:39 2 1
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I stopped watching, and respecting, him several years ago.

Another BBC Tory sycophant who just falls short of grovelling.

Sunday Brunch for me every time where at least the guests are infinitely more entertaining.
03/01/2021 13:55:55 8 1
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Totally agree - we missed quite a few important points because of the interruptions - for example what is happening with regard to exams this year. Frustrating indeed.
Adi
03/01/2021 14:08:04 7 0
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Marr and the rest of them are journalists not reporters. It is about him and not the interviewee. So I agree
03/01/2021 14:12:35 7 3
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Brian Walden worked when the BBC was a first rate broadcaster and not the socialist mouthpiece that it now is
03/01/2021 14:19:51 7 3
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Marr only interupts when he does not get the answer he wants, according to his pre-prepared crib sheet. Regrettably this is most of the time. A very rude man.
03/01/2021 14:23:00 3 4
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Things might go better if the PM actually answered a question instead of just trotting out some pre-rehearsed lines...
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03/01/2021 14:17:44 2 1
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I am sure Mr Johnson would have preferred being interviewed by Andrew Neil instead
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03/01/2021 12:48:21 740 303
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Worst PM and Government in living memory. Staggering from one failure to another each celebrated as a success.
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03/01/2021 12:51:35 519 508
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Whose living memory. Not mine. Blair was worse. He took us to war on false information.
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03/01/2021 12:51:56 56 64
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Rubbish. We have vaccinated over 1m whilst France has done less than 200, and tomorrow vaccinations get a significant ramp up to 2m a week from mid January.
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03/01/2021 12:54:46 38 27
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Failures repeated across the globe.

It's almost as if none of them have had to deal with a pandemic before ....
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R1
03/01/2021 13:20:18 47 98
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Think of all the Labour governments - all substantially worse !
03/01/2021 13:43:15 13 11
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Agreed
One on the worst PM's we have ever had.
Known around the word as a teller of terminological inexactitudes.
03/01/2021 13:59:16 8 6
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Hard luck. He has an 80 seat majority and no election until 2024.
03/01/2021 14:37:19 6 4
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Johnson, Cameron, Blair .. take your pick .. all are narcissists on a catastrophic level. .. doesn't say much for this country does it? .. I do want Johnson to stay though, so that history can record him as the lying buffoon he is .. sadly, I predict he will resign in the summer.
03/01/2021 14:31:20 3 10
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Boris is a great leader.
03/01/2021 15:16:45 1 4
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What a dumb comment from a dumb person
03/01/2021 15:27:45 0 1
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Come up to the ex miners Communities and I think you'll find a different government in a different era
03/01/2021 16:08:16 1 3
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Remainer were you?
03/01/2021 16:13:16 3 2
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How easily Blair and Brown are forgotten.... illegal wars, supporting Israeli genocide in Gaza, recessions (without a global pandemic), financial meltdown, rampant deregulation and no measures put in place after SARS-COV-1 to ensure we were as ready as Germany or South Korea to handle SARS-COV-2.
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03/01/2021 12:48:51 763 126
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Rules must get tougher because the virus is out of control, and yet schools are "safe".
We know things are bad, and these constant lies just make it worse.
For pity's sake give us a leader worthy of our trust.
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03/01/2021 12:51:04 188 72
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I agree but The electorate voted for him?
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03/01/2021 13:08:15 13 4
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Schools are not safe, never have been. But is it safe to lock everyone indoors. There is so many other factors to be considered.
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R1
03/01/2021 13:16:27 1 7
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You have one already.
909
03/01/2021 13:28:12 3 9
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The PM has done what he said he would do at the last election.
03/01/2021 13:19:23 3 9
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Do we know they are bad? or do we just listen to the news that tell us its bad with info fed to us from the Government?

I recently visited my local hospital and spoke to a nurse, things were not as bad as my TV is telling me to a point that the area should be in TIER1 and not TIER4

They are just gonna drag this on and on until its met the agenda it was created for.
03/01/2021 13:22:24 9 4
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But the nation has got what it wanted ! THIS IDIOT !
03/01/2021 13:54:03 2 0
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Such as?
03/01/2021 14:27:19 2 2
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We already have a great leader.
03/01/2021 14:50:05 4 2
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This is what Angerland voted for. Enjoy.
03/01/2021 14:50:24 1 0
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What lies? The scientists say they are safe Nd as they advise the PM wha t do you expect him to do?
03/01/2021 14:55:31 1 0
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No evidence of schools not being as safe as say a shop.
03/01/2021 15:14:44 1 0
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Best close supermarkets then to the ones who dont want kids at school cos they safer then tescos
me
03/01/2021 16:08:44 1 1
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Agreed. He got his name written into history for whatever his version of Brexit is.

Now its time for the him to go
03/01/2021 16:24:14 1 0
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Who did you have in mind....?
03/01/2021 16:27:54 0 1
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Agree
03/01/2021 17:44:43 0 1
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People don’t do the right thing give us worthy people in this beautiful country
03/01/2021 17:50:57 1 0
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I think you can trust the leaders we have, throughout Europe we have all been doing the same things because under the circumstances it's the best that can be done. People go into politics or of a desire to serve and to make things better. Those are motivations we should be able to trust.
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03/01/2021 12:48:55 208 58
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I've seen more direction from a headless chicken. Just put the whole country into lockdown for God's sake Boris and give the rules breakers proper penalties when they break the rules. Fines clearly aren't a big enough deterrent to stop them so use either a prison sentence or community service - perhaps the rule breakers could be used to clear up all the fly tipping and rubbish lying around
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03/01/2021 12:53:59 42 79
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Join the stazi if u tough enough to enforce that then
646
03/01/2021 13:17:02 2 1
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In the Far East they get a big bamboo stick where the sun doesn’t shine

Guaranteed to work
03/01/2021 14:46:49 9 4
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"Just put the whole country into lockdown for God's sake"

Including the supermarkets? Heating engineers? rubbish collections? And all the other various trades that you need to provide you with a comfortable life?

Or is it OK for the bits of society you need to continue working?
03/01/2021 15:45:05 7 3
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Great idea!
More of the restrictions which have so-far achieved precisely nothing other than putting vast numbers of people out of work and into poverty.
More than 40,000 excess deaths occurred in the home (not including care homes) in 2020. These were overwhelmingly NOT covid related.
28,000 occurred in care homes after the govt discharged 25,000 hospital patients back into care homes in March.
03/01/2021 16:26:45 0 2
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Don't be a a hunt
03/01/2021 20:58:17 0 1
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Tips are shut so what am i supposed to do with it all? This is another problem caused by this.
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03/01/2021 12:44:23 11 75
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Over the top rules for a cold.

Better to let everyone get it then problem solved.
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03/01/2021 12:49:00 34 6
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What an absolute idiotic thing to say, people are dying all around us and a idiot like you says it's like a normal cold.
We have absolute morans in this country, from the top to the bottom. Shame on you.
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03/01/2021 12:51:08 3 19
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OK, flu then.

People die all the time, why has the world been shut for something so survivable?
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03/01/2021 13:02:26 2 3
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muz2349 - you are not allowed to call people idiots on a BBC HYS, no matter how stupid they are. Auntie BEEB will slap your wrists,

However you can say owt you like about Tory government ministers. No agenda there then.
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03/01/2021 12:54:07 1 6
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People are not "dying all around us"
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03/01/2021 12:44:52 120 24
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I don't get the concern on Kids not going to school. I don't want me child going to school, getting tested feeling 100% fine then coming home being told he has covid and I have to have 2 weeks off work. How do I get paid?
Rather him not go to school than take that risk.
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03/01/2021 12:49:03 114 26
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Parents need to make the sensible decision that Boris seems unable to do, don't send your kids to school!!
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03/01/2021 12:46:51 16 28
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I wish the media would get off his back. The agenda is so negative on everything. 1mil at risk people vacinated already come on BBC lèts be a little more positive.
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03/01/2021 12:49:07 12 11
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No because we are know he is a complete idiot and lies
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03/01/2021 12:44:40 1102 82
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The PM says schools are safe. It might be safe for the pupils to return as they are the least likely to get symptoms of the virus. However they can still carry and spread it.
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03/01/2021 12:49:26 311 36
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So true
03/01/2021 17:45:25 1 0
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I am fed up with British people
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03/01/2021 12:49:36 19 7
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There does not seem to be much opportunity for tougher rules - what seems to be needed is more compliance. Perhaps giving rule breakers a penalty of a substantial amount of unpaid work in hospitals caring for COVID-19 patients might improve compliance.
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03/01/2021 12:53:24 5 10
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Stazi wanna be!!!!!!!
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03/01/2021 12:46:51 16 28
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I wish the media would get off his back. The agenda is so negative on everything. 1mil at risk people vacinated already come on BBC lèts be a little more positive.
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03/01/2021 12:49:37 3 7
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It's the BBC, positivity will never be there, it's not on their agenda!
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03/01/2021 12:49:39 24 10
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Why am I still seeing groups of old people walking around together & groups of mothers with children playing together in parks. If these vaccines fail to work then us British are doomed due to people like this who just don’t care.
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03/01/2021 13:13:44 3 3
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Because people are allowed to meet in small groups outdoors.
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03/01/2021 12:45:12 88 28
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FULL lockdown, including closure of all sea and airports forthwith required for at least the next month, nothing else will do.
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03/01/2021 12:49:40 26 50
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Just condemned your family friends relatives coworkers to possibly unemployment homelessness sueyside then!!!!!!
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Jon
03/01/2021 12:49:43 9 13
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How much tighter can thes restrictions get?? Concentration camps for anyone suspected of being infected? Army on the streets?
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03/01/2021 12:53:39 7 2
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People are able to drive miles and miles to exercise in Snowdonia, so I think we're quite a way away from concentration camps. Get some perspective.
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03/01/2021 12:53:58 3 1
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You call what’s happening out there restrictions?
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03/01/2021 12:58:34 2 4
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Exactly. Trouble is hardly anyone is following the rules and I don't blame people. Covid has ripped through our family and no one has been particularly ill, no worse than a mild flu. Yes those 80+ are hit particularly hard, but then any new virus was likely to hit this group hard, in previous generations they'd already be dead from flu or other diseases, we can't eradicate all risks in life.
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03/01/2021 13:02:16 2 2
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'Concentration camps for anyone suspected of being infected? Army on the streets?'

Maybe a bit of a dramatic take on things?
03/01/2021 13:09:21 0 4
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Until they have met the global agenda. This is far more than a bad flu bug its about the rich getting richer and the control. Covid was created for a reason.
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03/01/2021 12:49:48 920 156
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He warns us that the pandemic is going to get worse. With the next breath, he says schools must stay open just so his first prediction can be fulfilled. Please, Johnson, go and join your father in France.
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03/01/2021 13:23:14 523 123
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I'm not paying any attention to them anymore. The only thing that will work is a strict close everything bar food shops lockdown. Schools, colleges, universities all need to close.
03/01/2021 13:45:45 22 4
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No thank you, France does not require these idiots. You voted for him, you keep him.
03/01/2021 13:51:11 23 5
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Unfortunately for UK,
France won’t have Bozo as they also think he’s a clown.
03/01/2021 13:55:38 14 36
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Hard luck, he has an 80 seat majority until 2024.

Perhaps you should go to France?
03/01/2021 14:15:46 9 10
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Kids are very well monitored in school. Home to school and home again..Unlike idiot adults who go everywhere. Easy to identify any infections and lockdown year groups or just classes.

Like I said, easy.........although the minority of parents couldnt give a monkeys and let their babies do what they want.
03/01/2021 14:18:57 23 32
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I didn't vote for this clown (I voted Lib Dem to stop Brexit) but for once Boris has this right.

Get the kids back to school and don't throw the life chances of 10 million children in the bin for the sake of a few sensationalist headlines about excess deaths.
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03/01/2021 14:39:01 14 4
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'Please ...go and join your father in France.' What have the French done to deserve that? Mind you, BJ was born in America and had dual nationality, perhaps they'd like him back.
03/01/2021 15:45:54 0 1
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Yeah Get to F .....rance
03/01/2021 15:57:09 0 0
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Just another half witted slow brained brexiter.
03/01/2021 17:00:36 0 1
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We should be so lucky thats if the French want him personally I wouldn't
03/01/2021 17:49:10 1 0
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You go to France and be even stricter with the France police
03/01/2021 17:53:40 0 1
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Bozo is the last thing that France wants. And thanks to brexit they can refuse to have him.
FMH
03/01/2021 18:25:28 0 0
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?????
03/01/2021 19:05:30 0 1
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The pandemic is only getting worse because the PTB ordained that the Great Reset needs it to get worse. The whole thing is a farcical joke. Old people die. Get over it.
03/01/2021 20:02:59 0 1
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He will turn and run at some point in the future
03/01/2021 20:19:27 0 1
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But would France let him in?
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03/01/2021 12:49:48 175 30
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BJ on Andrew Marr show today!!!!
Embarrassing blathering, disconnected thinkIng and banal platitudes .
Omg??
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03/01/2021 12:55:01 91 13
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So nothing new there
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03/01/2021 13:02:35 9 4
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You don't expect any change, do you?
Just typical Johnson.
Refusing to accept that import/ export barriers existed on Brexit In the Kuenssberg interview.
Big Ben was ringing the death knell.
03/01/2021 14:51:58 4 2
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Headless chickens are the people who put him in Power, accepts no responsibility for anything, his object is to stay in Power not to solve our economic issues other than by Borrow Borrow, and of course he has used fishing during Brexit to hide the fact, no deal for our Banks. NHS Privatisation is next with expensive insurance for everyone.
04/01/2021 02:47:56 0 1
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same as usual. Don't expect a pig not to squeal.
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03/01/2021 12:49:58 970 25
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Students are fined for breaking the rules yet footballers can party and the police do nothing.
Always baffles me why a good number of the male population find it exciting to watch a bunch of young fit millionaires dressed in skimpy underwear chasing a bag of gas round a field for 90mins.

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03/01/2021 13:01:35 49 18
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So do ministers and members of he Royal Family break the rules, why pick on footballers.
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03/01/2021 13:02:55 9 19
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Not true.
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03/01/2021 13:12:59 19 7
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2020 Politicised police shameful
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03/01/2021 13:13:04 91 2
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They fall under the Rita Ora, Piers Morgan, Gordon Ramsay, any number of Sky Journalists "I'm a celebrity and can do what I bloody well like" clause.
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03/01/2021 13:18:28 46 7
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A small number of idiot footballers, but hundreds and hundreds(probably many thousands) of the general public have broke the rules
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03/01/2021 13:29:02 17 5
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Money talks.
03/01/2021 13:53:06 1 5
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They would rather fine drivers who go for a walk in a national park.
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03/01/2021 15:05:07 0 2
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Soccer players please... football involves 15 or 13 players, players who have standards of behaviour..
03/01/2021 15:09:27 7 0
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It would be good if we adopted a system akin to Scandinavia. I can't remember if it was Sweden or Finland but in one of these countries I remember reading a news story about a millionaire that had got caught speeding. Instead of the usual standard fine, it is tied to your salary. So Mr Millionaire ended up paying 75k in fines rather than the standard 1k (or similar low level amount).
03/01/2021 15:18:49 3 1
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But a footballer would fall over and accuse the police of tripping them up... Cry babies that they are
03/01/2021 15:21:13 2 0
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You get the "justice" you can afford, always been true, and still is today unfortunately.
03/01/2021 15:28:01 2 2
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Because Students are far worse, as anyone with half a brain would know......
03/01/2021 15:48:26 1 3
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Agree entirely. Given the the behaviour of football players and managers it's time the Government shut football down.
03/01/2021 15:57:57 4 0
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I agree and plenty pf celebs out partying and rushing off around the world on luxury holidays
03/01/2021 16:06:26 2 2
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How come these clubs can just "deal with the matter internally"? Next time I break the law, is it okay if my family or company I work for deal with the matter internally? Or will I have to go to court and face prosecution?... Hmmm...
03/01/2021 16:44:28 3 0
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Kyle Walker's party probably caused a lot of footballers to catch Covid.
03/01/2021 16:52:58 1 1
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Students are clearly not fit to be students.No common sense, no intelligence.No self ness.What has happened to our education system.
03/01/2021 17:21:46 2 1
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Footballers are actually fined.
03/01/2021 17:55:15 2 1
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They want you to get used to that idea and see it as normal. The wealthy do what they want. You, do not.
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03/01/2021 18:19:29 1 0
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The regular fines would be water of a duck back for footballers. I think most clubs are disciplining them though where it hurts. Naming and shaming and bringing to the clubs attention is the best bet for these covidiots.
03/01/2021 18:21:39 0 0
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the virus works in mysterious ways
03/01/2021 18:32:00 4 0
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They should give your fine based on your yearly income not just a flat fee
03/01/2021 19:39:00 1 1
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Football has an unhealthy grip on the psyche of the country ...worst of all in Scotland .....Jeez.... its a bloody game that's all !!
03/01/2021 20:00:45 2 0
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Money talks louder than public safety.
03/01/2021 20:28:00 1 1
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How do you know they haven’t been fined?
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03/01/2021 12:43:35 359 134
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U turn after u turn after u turn.

Anyone else getting dizzy?
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03/01/2021 12:49:58 351 271
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Do you think you can plan with certainly against a virus that continually throws changes and challenges at us? No country on earth has been able to fight this virus without making constant changes. These aren’t u-turns on policy, they are changes to a changing disease.
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03/01/2021 12:51:26 19 24
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Yes, but always too late.
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03/01/2021 12:53:01 74 31
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Absolute dung. The government are constantly being told that they're going in the wrong direction, only for them to change direction at a later date. It's time they listened to the advice they're offered when they're offered it.
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03/01/2021 12:58:21 53 22
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Nope, the countries that went in hard early have been able to open up internally (months ago), so only have to worry about handling new imports. A far better situation to be in.
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03/01/2021 12:58:53 42 10
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If you attempt to speak sense on HYS expect a tirade of moronic self informed nonsense to come flooding back your way
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03/01/2021 13:09:52 51 7
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Have a look how Taiwan (Population 23M. Density 652 people per sq km Vs UK at 275 people per sq km) never needed a full lockdown & has been pretty much operating as normal since May.
Current total reported cases = 808 & deaths = 7. They were testing/tracking people entering the Country & eventually banning them while UK was still talking about 'herd immunity'. They went early and decisive.
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03/01/2021 13:13:39 43 21
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Rubbish. The PM said that they could not foresee the new strain, when the experts (including the one who was the Government advisor and is on SAGE)said that mutations of a virus is what always and predictably occur. Just look at 'Flu New variants happen each year and the jab has to be modified each year. The council elections will show how the public have realised we have our own Donald Trump.
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03/01/2021 13:16:44 41 6
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If that's the case - and for what it's worth I believe it is - then it is irresponsible at best to make predictions like "It'll all be over by Christmas". The perception of U-turns is increased by pronouncements that should not be made in the first place. If Johnson were to be a little more cautious in his language, then he wouldn't be in a position where his words come back to bite him as often.
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03/01/2021 13:22:09 5 3
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Agreed. Pity the rest of the UK population, the media in particular, can't see this !!
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03/01/2021 12:53:39 19 7
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They’re not planning, that’s the point. They’re reacting.
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03/01/2021 13:03:12 14 7
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Australia and NZ looked pretty decent to me. Ah, to be an island ....
03/01/2021 13:43:24 9 7
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Absolutely. The only people pushing the u-turn topic are the brainless main stream media.
03/01/2021 14:19:00 5 5
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New Zealand, China, South Korea all spring to mind.
03/01/2021 15:03:06 6 6
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The challenges are the same as in March, the virus has mutated but still the same virus, still the same method of transmission.

The issue is having a good news PM who promises the earth and is then told he is wrong and then has to u turn and blame the science.
03/01/2021 15:18:32 7 2
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Well said but wasted on theses fools
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03/01/2021 15:22:12 8 5
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You can plan by not cutting icu beds and under founding the NHS population grew by 10 million in ten years
03/01/2021 15:27:13 5 6
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I am so tired of the media perpetuating this u-turn narrative. If you act fast it's a u turn. If you don't you are too slow. When this is all done I would love lessons learned to include a proper register for journalists where you can be struck off if you are found to be below the acceptable standards (that would be most of the mainstream media!)
03/01/2021 16:38:36 0 1
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What - every day.
03/01/2021 17:10:33 4 0
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I am surprised that straight telling of the situation the World finds itself in hasn’t been expunged by the moderators for being off message. I am tired of people heaping coals on the PM, ministers and legions of other health workers and public servants doing their best with the benefit of 2020 HINDSIGHT. Mistakes have been made but, starting the blame game without the facts is counterproductive?
03/01/2021 17:18:55 1 2
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New Zealand, Australia, South Korea, china
03/01/2021 17:43:05 1 1
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There has been no effect plan, it's been the worst example of panic management I have ever seen & seen a bit! When you are in charge you cannot be a populist politician you have to make the hard calls. We began the Crisis at a disadvantage with so few ICU & hospital beds not forgetting poor social care model. I'm no socialist but we need a healthcare revolution in this country cradle to grave.
03/01/2021 18:21:55 1 1
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Taiwan, s Korea, ozz, nz, Singapore etc controlled virus far better than UK. Less deaths, less cov+, less economic damage. Those countries were hit by covid months before UK. Google 'Taiwan covid' for graph. Repeat for other countries. Beware graph scale just 10s for Taiwan to 10,000s for Ukdoh.
Gives a clue as to the scale of Ukdoh fail?
Plus creation and export of new improved covid to world.
03/01/2021 18:28:50 0 3
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No they are u turns due to an incompetent government
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03/01/2021 12:46:59 13 33
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It's essential schools open for the sake of the pupils and parents who can't work as well as teach their children. Teaching unions never think about the consequences of their actions.
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03/01/2021 12:49:58 8 12
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Spot on. The impact on our kids education of the choices we make today will be felt for decades to come.
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03/01/2021 12:45:50 561 55
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"tens of millions" vaccinated in the next 3 months.

Meet this and I think the public will go along with it. Failure to deliver and it will be time for Hancock and Boris to go.
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03/01/2021 12:50:03 291 119
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"Tens of millions" still a fraction of the UK population. So how long will it take to vaccinate us all? More than a year, even according to his own blustering.
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03/01/2021 13:05:10 64 47
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We don't ALL need a vaccine though Steven. Fool.
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03/01/2021 13:10:00 55 17
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Every singl eperson vaccinated reduces the risk of YOU catching the virus Steve
But hey, you have your political dig, then tell us how you could do better?
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03/01/2021 13:14:24 92 6
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given that there are 60 million people in the UK, tens of millions sounds good to me
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03/01/2021 13:17:03 33 7
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10's of millions would be at least a third of the population (I agree 1/3 is a fraction by the way). Don't think they will achieve it. Plus of course those waiting the second jab will have their protection compromised.
03/01/2021 13:06:13 48 9
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The entire population of the UK is only 'tens of millions'. Astra Zeneca say they can manufacture 2 million a week, if medical professionals concentrate on vaccinating people rather than doing 500,000 pointless tests a day so that the BBC can gleefully report a high number of new cases then they should be able to vaccinate around 10 million a month. And we don't ALL want to be vaccinated!
03/01/2021 13:09:48 21 3
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Only need to vaccinate over 80s to cut mortality by 90%.
03/01/2021 13:09:59 3 10
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52 million jabs a year would be quite good but considering around 140 million are required... Roll on 2024
03/01/2021 13:57:30 4 3
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How do you propose to speed it up?
03/01/2021 13:57:53 20 0
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'Tens of millions' is quite a big fraction., Steve.
Three 'tens of millions' is half of us.
03/01/2021 14:05:52 9 2
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you say that but what you need to think of is all the world wont need a vaccination i think its something like 64% of people getting it would stop covid-19 add that to the people who have it now and wont need a jab for around 6 months it sounds not so bad in saying 6 months from now we will be in a much better place and along the way we will have more hope as we go
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03/01/2021 14:13:52 9 5
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Erm. If 10s of millions is done in 3 months, the entire population will be done in just under a year. Surely that’s not that hard to work out.

If it’s 20M in 3 mth, that’s 70 in 10-11 mth
If it’s 30M in 3 mth, that’s 70M in 7 mth.

Tens of millions is 2/7 of the pop as a min. Or 3/7 or 4/7, get the drift?

Did you think there were 200M? If so, stop listening to Farage. He’s very rarely right.
03/01/2021 14:23:29 9 0
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Is it? Tens of millions would suggest at least 30m, which is nearly half the population, and a lot of the remainder don’t need vaccinating as no risk, and sizeable number won’t want it
03/01/2021 14:26:43 8 0
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Yes it is a fraction, but then so is 99/100. Tens of millions means at least 33% in this instance.
03/01/2021 14:34:43 7 1
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We don't all need the jab for a more normal life to resume.

Next major milepost is the feb half term. We could be halfway to a far better place then.
03/01/2021 15:32:33 5 0
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64 million so at 2m a week thats 30 weeks but large swathes have already had it with no symptoms so if you focus on the most vulnerable that is probably a 4-6 week programme - all NHS (1m) , all teachers (400,000) , over 65 (10m). Just a matter of numbers rather than hyperbole!!
03/01/2021 15:49:35 4 0
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How big do you think the UK population is?
03/01/2021 16:35:27 2 1
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We don't all need vaccinated to be able to go back to normal, just the known vulnerable and adults likely to spread it. That resumes 'normal' life, while the vaccine programmes continue so we achieve herd immunity.
03/01/2021 16:47:14 4 1
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Tens of millions is not a fraction in the sense that you mean. Out of 60 mill. It's quite a chunk,
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"tens of millions" vaccinated in the next 3 months.

Meet this and I think the public will go along with it. Failure to deliver and it will be time for Hancock and Boris to go.
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03/01/2021 12:50:03 31 6
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And williamson.
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03/01/2021 12:50:09 220 43
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Terrible PM, terrible decisions terrible beliefs and values and what’s worse is still some people think he’s doing good
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03/01/2021 12:56:09 103 136
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and your alternative would have been Corbyn? We did well to dodge that one
03/01/2021 21:11:57 1 1
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Rubbish as usual.
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03/01/2021 12:50:13 224 24
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You can have as many rules as you like, but if no one enforces them we might as well all go to Barnard Castle.
Reinforce what exactly? The cases are rising in most EU countries despite the army in the streets and masks outdoors. What the govt need to do is to stop the scandemic. The medical services are not overwhelmed. But as they painted themselves in the corner from which there is no way out they are going to keep the pandemic going indefinitely until people wake up and stop believing the lies. Removed
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03/01/2021 13:11:50 8 20
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Yawn - come on come up with an original comment its 2021 now you know
03/01/2021 18:29:25 4 2
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Agree, I've been to Portugal twice this year when they were on our red list. On arrival hack in the UK I spent 14 days in isolation. Not once did anyone check up on me. On my 3rd visit it was under our own lockdown where essential travel only was advised, not one official questioned anyone departing from the UK airport I was leaving from and again no one checked up on me on my return to isolation.
03/01/2021 20:20:22 0 0
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Sadly, there are sufficient numbers of people who are 'unable' and others 'not bothered'. Sadly no one has discovered how to tell them 'please could you just help too'. Our words 'seem not to work'.
To everyone else be as Covid-secure as you can manage.
Bear in mind that if you are positive or a contact needing to isolate you will be unable to turn-up for a Vax appointment.
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03/01/2021 12:50:20 185 39
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The reason the country's in such a mess is that the restrictions have never been tough enough, especially in England. Schools also have a big part to play in facilitating the spread of the virus between households - the children themselves may not be getting ill but their parents and family are.
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03/01/2021 13:14:37 133 26
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It's not that the restrictions aren't tough enough ... it's that idiots don't keep to them, e.g. "Nothing is going to stop my Family Christmas".
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