Lufthansa airlifts food to the UK amid lorry chaos
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The German airline is flying in fresh fruit and vegetables for shops such as Tesco and Sainsbury's.
and if going it alone wasn't already the most ridiculous idea ....... let's remember who is at the helm ..........
Business people do business when it makes sense financially. This is what’s happening.
Here in Germany, nobody pays attention to the anti European feeling emanating from the UK.
Here in Germany, nobody pays attention to the anti European feeling emanating from the UK.
More accurate title would have been, ‘Germany exporting more via air to UK’ as we are not short of food as the title attempts to infer.
Ok, so Germany/Lufthansa are wasting money, flying planes, paying pilots etc, while nobody in the UK has actually requested this food or is paying for it. Do you think people are stupid?
Or accurate without xenophobia "UK retailers try to find ways to fill their shelves with fresh produce for their UK customers"?
That's too easy for the good old BBC. They needed the headline they used to open a HYS on this. So that people can rip into the comments other people have written
I guess the EU are desperate to sell us their produce
"Germany's Lufthansa is airlifting fresh fruit and vegetables to the UK on Wednesday as firms seek to beat the lorry chaos at sea ports The airline said it is carrying 80 tonnes of food from Frankfurt to Doncaster Sheffield Airport for grocers including Tesco and Sainbury's."
"Bloody Europeans! How dare they help us! Go and help some poor African country", says Grease Smugg!
"Bloody Europeans! How dare they help us! Go and help some poor African country", says Grease Smugg!
Not everybody is stupid. But LH are carrying goods that UK supermarkets ordered. It’s not charity.
Germany/Lufthansa aren't wasting/spending any money. 'Germany' is not sending us food, German companies are exporting food we have ordered, and Lufthansa aren't wasting money, they are being paid to fly the food by the German companies, who in turn will charge the companies importing it.
Don't forget that Lufthansa is very heavily subsidised by the German Government and the EU.
So much for the level playing field.
The EU subsidised what ever it wants but complains if other countries do the same.
Total hypocrites.
So much for the level playing field.
The EU subsidised what ever it wants but complains if other countries do the same.
Total hypocrites.
I guess the EU are desperate to sell us their produce
I guess the EU are desperate to sell us their produce
Classic BBC headline. Make it seem as it is some kind of Red Cross aid mission. Rather than, Germany companies exporting via air rather than lorries
It still puzzles me, all these people that read the BBC news and headlines and then moan about them. If I don't like something, I go elsewhere. There are plenty of other news platforms on the web that may please these people. Why do they not use them?
I guess the EU are desperate to sell us their produce
We'll see how this goes come January 1st.
"Despite assurances that plenty of food will be available, some shoppers have found empty shelves"
What a load of ?? been this morning, shelves were packed. Sensationalized reporting...
What a load of ?? been this morning, shelves were packed. Sensationalized reporting...
I noticed shelves were full but of different things, not the usual fruit and veg.
Hence "some"?
So at the time you visited one local shop, in a single area, you found they had stock, therefore that's the same for every shop in every part of the whole of the country? No wonder people talk about dumbing down...
Exactly, my local store has full shelves of everything & queue of grateful shoppers outside.
Where?
Picture shows quite different, well, picture.
Grease Smogg will announce the introduction of ration books soon so the shelves will stay full. The thought of our supermarkets looking like something I last saw in pictures from eastern bloc countries. But the pencil does have a dream of going back in time.
1: Airlifting Portaloos and supplies to drivers and passengers should not be a problem. Where is the military in all this.
2: The authorities should requisition toilets in private homes along routes.
3: Either get on with it or Cholera will soon be on top of COVID!
2: The authorities should requisition toilets in private homes along routes.
3: Either get on with it or Cholera will soon be on top of COVID!
BA are also using passenger planes for freight according a stewardess friend of mine but usually high value items rather than Christmas veg. Bit of a non story really.
Its called capitalism. Supply and demand. How do you think we get all the Charlie here?
"Germany's Lufthansa is airlifting fresh fruit and vegetables to the UK on Wednesday as firms seek to beat the lorry chaos at sea ports The airline said it is carrying 80 tonnes of food from Frankfurt to Doncaster Sheffield Airport for grocers including Tesco and Sainbury's."
"Bloody Europeans! How dare they help us! Go and help some poor African country", says Grease Smugg!
"Bloody Europeans! How dare they help us! Go and help some poor African country", says Grease Smugg!
On the first day of Christmas, BoZo brought to me
An emergency airlift of supplies from Germany
On the second day of Christmas, BoZo brought to me
Two thousand gridlocked lorries, and an emergency airlift of supplies from Germany.
On the third day of Christmas, BoZo brough to me
Three food parcels from UNICEF, two thousand gridlocked lorries, and an emergency airlift of supplies from Germany...
An emergency airlift of supplies from Germany
On the second day of Christmas, BoZo brought to me
Two thousand gridlocked lorries, and an emergency airlift of supplies from Germany.
On the third day of Christmas, BoZo brough to me
Three food parcels from UNICEF, two thousand gridlocked lorries, and an emergency airlift of supplies from Germany...
'Airlift'?
Bit unnecessarily dramatic isn't it BBC?
Could have just used the term 'air freight' - which is simply what it is.
Fresh produce and perishables are sent via air freight every day.
They are simply using this as a suitable temporary alternative to transporting via road/ferry.
That doesn't sound quite so apocalyptic though does it BBC?
Bit unnecessarily dramatic isn't it BBC?
Could have just used the term 'air freight' - which is simply what it is.
Fresh produce and perishables are sent via air freight every day.
They are simply using this as a suitable temporary alternative to transporting via road/ferry.
That doesn't sound quite so apocalyptic though does it BBC?
Bit over-sensitive?
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
The term “airlift” is being used by all media outets to describe what’s happening
It’s just a word - get over it
It’s just a word - get over it
I agree that this is sensationalist but you cant deny the food situation is worrying.
The BBC are just playing to the brain dead click bait crowd as per usual.
Maybe they should try and monetise these clicks. They would make an absolute fortune.
Maybe they should try and monetise these clicks. They would make an absolute fortune.
The EU already imports large quantities of fruit via air freight - 40% from sub-Saharan Africa. This is perfectly normal, high capacity road and sea freight are actually more environmentally friendly compared with single truck road freight for long-haul journeys. It wouldn't surprise me if this becomes the new norm - providing new jobs for aviation and sea ports.
I think it's quite a nice reference.
Germany airlifting food into the UK
it's. different
Germany airlifting food into the UK
it's. different
Why, it is Germany coming to the rescue of the Brits.
Let’s give them the credit and the Thanks and oh, the irony
Let’s give them the credit and the Thanks and oh, the irony
Absolutely! Typical BBC dramatised dross, they might as well report on Plebian Chump.
There's no anti European feelings coming from the ????, it's anti EU, a big difference
So little attention in fact, that you don't post comments about it.
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It's always good to get a broad perspective by looking across a number of media platforms, not sure spitting the old dummy out and going elsewhere is a balanced attitude. Oh and free speech is not banned quite yet ??
These no good Europeans !
Trying to subdue us with the jackboot of kindness, when we would be honest and let them rot.
They are deliberately trying to make the UK look bad.
Glad we have left.
Trying to subdue us with the jackboot of kindness, when we would be honest and let them rot.
They are deliberately trying to make the UK look bad.
Glad we have left.
FFS we already look bad - in fact it is rumoured we are a joke around the world and Berlin looks on in bemusement at the chaos and indecision showed by our government - a government who currently cannot even arrange a good drink in a brewery.
Just continuing to do business.
Where is Labour in al this Chaos? There is a VACANCY at the Heal of Labour!
On the first day of Christmas, BoZo brought to me
An emergency airlift of supplies from Germany
On the second day of Christmas, BoZo brought to me
Two thousand gridlocked lorries, and an emergency airlift of supplies from Germany.
On the third day of Christmas, BoZo brough to me
Three food parcels from UNICEF, two thousand gridlocked lorries, and an emergency airlift of supplies from Germany...
An emergency airlift of supplies from Germany
On the second day of Christmas, BoZo brought to me
Two thousand gridlocked lorries, and an emergency airlift of supplies from Germany.
On the third day of Christmas, BoZo brough to me
Three food parcels from UNICEF, two thousand gridlocked lorries, and an emergency airlift of supplies from Germany...
'Airlift'?
Bit unnecessarily dramatic isn't it BBC?
Could have just used the term 'air freight' - which is simply what it is.
Fresh produce and perishables are sent via air freight every day.
They are simply using this as a suitable temporary alternative to transporting via road/ferry.
That doesn't sound quite so apocalyptic though does it BBC?
Bit unnecessarily dramatic isn't it BBC?
Could have just used the term 'air freight' - which is simply what it is.
Fresh produce and perishables are sent via air freight every day.
They are simply using this as a suitable temporary alternative to transporting via road/ferry.
That doesn't sound quite so apocalyptic though does it BBC?
If anyone has taken journalism 101 they get taught at kindergarten stage to take the opposing view and sensationalise it. Anyone who has been at an incident reported in the press the following day knows it never happened like that. They are bigger twisters of the truth than politicians
Airfreight flew of Luton today to Frankfurt, no need to thank us Germany
"Germany" is doing nothing. One of many airlines (this one happens to be German) is reported for doing what airlines do to carry freight.
This is very close to a fake news story.
Come on BBC, you can and should do better than this.
This is very close to a fake news story.
Come on BBC, you can and should do better than this.
For what exactly? It's not a gift.
Stupid comment.
Stupid comment.
Transport Minister Grant Shnapps did not even plan for toilets and water for those stranded towards Dover.
Get rid of this man, call in the military now and get on with it!
UK Government you are a disgrace.
What a humiliation for a so-called "advanced" country.
Get rid of this man, call in the military now and get on with it!
UK Government you are a disgrace.
What a humiliation for a so-called "advanced" country.
Precisely. In the referendum I voted leave - and now bitterly regret my decision. Never did I believe we would see such an incompetent government, littered with double-talk, false promises and astounding indifference.
Macron caused the problem. He should have considered the the health of his countrymen.
He also told the nation there was only 175 lorries stranded, he is hopeless.
This is action being taken by France, what have France or indeed the EU done to support their citizens that they have stranded and ignored!?
Deafly silence......
Deafly silence......
Call in the military...to (replace, help, assist) the government.
The Battle of Britain was Hitler's biggest mistake. He should have just bought into a few newspapers and stayed patient.
Simple, uncompromising solutions don't equate to real solutions - sorry for you.
The Battle of Britain was Hitler's biggest mistake. He should have just bought into a few newspapers and stayed patient.
Simple, uncompromising solutions don't equate to real solutions - sorry for you.
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That is why they wanted them to go to Manston where the services have been provided. If they clog up the streets of Dover instead you cannot anticipate all situations. Many of those drivers say that they didn't even know there was a problem at Calais!
These no good Europeans !
Trying to subdue us with the jackboot of kindness, when we would be honest and let them rot.
They are deliberately trying to make the UK look bad.
Glad we have left.
Trying to subdue us with the jackboot of kindness, when we would be honest and let them rot.
They are deliberately trying to make the UK look bad.
Glad we have left.
No rumours about it - at this time of year we receive letters from friends overseas, and, yes, the UK has been an international laughing-stock for the last four years, not just in the EU but around the world. Perhaps most of all in those countries with memories of the British Empire.
These no good Europeans !
Trying to subdue us with the jackboot of kindness, when we would be honest and let them rot.
They are deliberately trying to make the UK look bad.
Glad we have left.
Trying to subdue us with the jackboot of kindness, when we would be honest and let them rot.
They are deliberately trying to make the UK look bad.
Glad we have left.
BBC doesn't even care about journalistic integrity anymore. They know the writing is on the wall and within 10 years they are to be dismantled and their overpaid "talent" will need to get proper jobs in an actual competitive environment. So they just print this sensationalist nonsense. France closes borders, Germany's industry uses a different freight method and according to the BBC it's doomsday.
Sadly you're entirely correct.
The BBC has turned in to some sad mutation of Heat Magazine and a red top rag.
The BBC has turned in to some sad mutation of Heat Magazine and a red top rag.
I fear you are right, but just remember, whatever replaces the BBC will be much, much worse.
Why are you even here?
Having travelled the World, the BBC is still way better than most offerings. The worst case scenario is that it becomes as bad as the UK's rabid press.
Be careful what you wish for...
Be careful what you wish for...
I have to agree with Guy Fawkes, unfortunately there's an element in the BBC who're intent on picking quarrels with Murdochs press in particular, it's masochistic, it's a public schoolboy thing, they'll lose of course.
arrived home for Xmas and was flabbergasted when my 72 year old mother insisted on watching news on ITV because "BBC has turned into a load of utter rubbish"
What would you like to see in the title? British Airways? easyJet?
If it is an emergency supply by planes, it is an air lift.
Seems Brexit nationalists have problem with Germany planes flying food to England. Now they cannot say they hate Germans and EU in general so they turned on BBC.
Seems Brexit nationalists have problem with Germany planes flying food to England. Now they cannot say they hate Germans and EU in general so they turned on BBC.
@"BBC doesn't even care about journalistic integrity anymore. They know the writing is on the wall"
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Merry Christmas to our friends in St Pete's!
These boards wouldn't half of what they are without your dedication and perseverance, day in, day out.
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Merry Christmas to our friends in St Pete's!
These boards wouldn't half of what they are without your dedication and perseverance, day in, day out.
These no good Europeans !
Trying to subdue us with the jackboot of kindness, when we would be honest and let them rot.
They are deliberately trying to make the UK look bad.
Glad we have left.
Trying to subdue us with the jackboot of kindness, when we would be honest and let them rot.
They are deliberately trying to make the UK look bad.
Glad we have left.
Apparently there will be empty shelves of Brussels Sprouts come Easter..
Hmmm ... Birmingham wholesale market reported more than adequate stocks of fresh fruit and veg just yesterday.
Seems like someone is looking to charge a premium for lettuce given the price of air freight ... this is not just a lettuce this is an M&S lettuce with more air miles than a frequent flyer
Seems like someone is looking to charge a premium for lettuce given the price of air freight ... this is not just a lettuce this is an M&S lettuce with more air miles than a frequent flyer
A camel train has been spotted just south of Calais ...
Lucas was right, it's all like poetry.
BBC doesn't even care about journalistic integrity anymore. They know the writing is on the wall and within 10 years they are to be dismantled and their overpaid "talent" will need to get proper jobs in an actual competitive environment. So they just print this sensationalist nonsense. France closes borders, Germany's industry uses a different freight method and according to the BBC it's doomsday.
Hopefully one postiive to come out of the whole Johnson episode will be a move to PR and ditching FPTP. Hopefully this will be the last ever govt run by the old etonion cult born into a life in mindset of superiority and entitlement.
" In the referendum I voted leave - and now bitterly regret my decision, Never did I believe we would see such an incompetent government"
No one voted for the govt in the 2016 referendum.
The only people that confuse the two are remainers so I would question your statement
No one voted for the govt in the 2016 referendum.
The only people that confuse the two are remainers so I would question your statement
1: Airlifting Portaloos and supplies to drivers and passengers should not be a problem. Where is the military in all this.
2: The authorities should requisition toilets in private homes along routes.
3: Either get on with it or Cholera will soon be on top of COVID!
2: The authorities should requisition toilets in private homes along routes.
3: Either get on with it or Cholera will soon be on top of COVID!
Your name is Sir Ernest Gowers and ICMFP.
Easter eggs already?
Was there enough food? Yes! There is no reason for sensationalist reporting.
This has got the emotions going! Methinks that LH are carrying goods ordered by UK retailers. They won’t be doing it for nothing. Just normal since surface transport is disrupted.
He did what many Brits thought the UK should have done.
Although I would love to join you in blaming Macron, this was an own goal by our leadership. We told the whole world something, which as yet has no foundation in science and the world decided to shut us out.
Macron did not cause the problem and the lorry drivers are from all over Europe.
All this because Johnson simply just couldn't fess up to making a mistake by allowing 5 days at xmas in the first place. A little white lie blaming on the new strain to cover up their incompetence led to all this. Yet another proud moment for the Tories and little England.
What's a decision about the future got to do with a situation that has arisen in the present due to a mutation in the virus ? How can you possibly conflate Macron's and other foreign countries (incl non-EU) decision to close their borders with the UK with a decision, since rescinded, to allow people to travel at Xmas. Could you simply not find another way to blame the govt for the virus change ?
Well must be good business if they can afford to air lift it, just remember we spend more in the EU that they spend here!
The consumer will be paying for the air transport.
It's the UK consumer who pays for the air freight in the end....
All the brexiteers will be raging that the Germans are bailing us out (just repaying the Berlin airdrop) Thanks Germany
Unlike the 'bungs' our government is dolling out for nothing, to their crony mates.
The Government are getting paid & providing bugger all for the lorry drivers, once again they are a national embarrassment.
These aircraft operate from a number of destinations and not just Germany.
Tesco and Sainsbury probably asked for it. Willing to pay.
BBC doesn't even care about journalistic integrity anymore. They know the writing is on the wall and within 10 years they are to be dismantled and their overpaid "talent" will need to get proper jobs in an actual competitive environment. So they just print this sensationalist nonsense. France closes borders, Germany's industry uses a different freight method and according to the BBC it's doomsday.
English?
I wish. They hold this country back whilst protecting themselves.
So this is what we've been reduced to under the EU?
Cheaper to fly the stuff in than grow it here!
£18 billion-a-year for that!!
Cheaper to fly the stuff in than grow it here!
£18 billion-a-year for that!!
You write “under” the EU. You were members. Nobody forced you to start buying foreign food. The UK was and is not subservient to the EU. The EU is effectively the sum of its members.
What are our farmers doing? All those empty fields with some sheep, cows and pigs. Start growing some food. And as for strawberries at Christmas, what a pathetic nation we have become.
I wouldn’t say pathetic. It’s just business, offering year round fruit. We never had it as kids. As for the farmers: the sheep, cows and pigs ARE food!
Actually, all those empty fields with some sheep, cows & pigs (although I wonder how long it's been since you really saw a pig in a field) are being used for food production. It may well be food you choose not to eat, but it's food all the same. Grazing land is often unsuitable for arable use, so taking away the animals would just mean more land out of food production.
This has got the emotions going! Methinks that LH are carrying goods ordered by UK retailers. They won’t be doing it for nothing. Just normal since surface transport is disrupted.
Pretty poor contribution. LH is perfectly acceptable and seems you, as did many others, understand the meaning.
But it is derived from 2 words. Luft is ggerman for air, hansa is a Latin term for "guild" LH is alright by me.
LH is the two letter airline designated flight code for Lufthansa.
BA = British Airways
CX = Cathay Pacific
QF = Qantas Airways
VS = Virgin Altantic
Etc, etc, etc.
Using LH just saves typing out the full airline name.
You're welcome.
BA = British Airways
CX = Cathay Pacific
QF = Qantas Airways
VS = Virgin Altantic
Etc, etc, etc.
Using LH just saves typing out the full airline name.
You're welcome.
Great news, the thought of seeing in the New Year without lettuce is unbearable.
aart said-
"What are our farmers doing? All those empty fields with some sheep, cows and pigs. Start growing some food. And as for strawberries at Christmas, what a pathetic nation we have become.---"
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Subsidised by the EU out of our £18 billion-a-year payment!
You couldn't mzke it up!!
"What are our farmers doing? All those empty fields with some sheep, cows and pigs. Start growing some food. And as for strawberries at Christmas, what a pathetic nation we have become.---"
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Subsidised by the EU out of our £18 billion-a-year payment!
You couldn't mzke it up!!
UK Farmers grow a lot of bio-fuel crops these days because cheap imports has made it unprofitable to grow fresh food.
ohh no, what do german sprouts taste like I've only ever had brussels
They say “ve haf vays off making you eat me”.....
All this because Johnson simply just couldn't fess up to making a mistake by allowing 5 days at xmas in the first place. A little white lie blaming on the new strain to cover up their incompetence led to all this. Yet another proud moment for the Tories and little England.
What's a decision about the future got to do with a situation that has arisen in the present due to a mutation in the virus ? How can you possibly conflate Macron's and other foreign countries (incl non-EU) decision to close their borders with the UK with a decision, since rescinded, to allow people to travel at Xmas. Could you simply not find another way to blame the govt for the virus change ?
Read the original post! This has NOTHING to do with the new strain. They should never have allowed a 5 day xmas, but they used the new strain as the excuse to cancel. Boris can never admit he was wrong, he has to have a reason for everything. The new strain gave him his reason, and spectacularly backfired. Are you saying a 5 day xmas would have been allowed if the new strain hadn't appeared?
.... and I bet the Germans won't be banging on about how they saved the British from the French for the next seventy years :)
UK heading towards being a third worldcountry
aart said-
"What are our farmers doing? All those empty fields with some sheep, cows and pigs. Start growing some food. And as for strawberries at Christmas, what a pathetic nation we have become.---"
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Subsidised by the EU out of our £18 billion-a-year payment!
You couldn't mzke it up!!
"What are our farmers doing? All those empty fields with some sheep, cows and pigs. Start growing some food. And as for strawberries at Christmas, what a pathetic nation we have become.---"
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Subsidised by the EU out of our £18 billion-a-year payment!
You couldn't mzke it up!!
Never thought I would ever say thank you to Germany for flying their planes over UK airspace
Good on Lufthansa for doing the decent thing.... It also did the decent thing for me too, many decades ago when I travelled around Germany inter-railing as a student - I ran out of money, but they had the decency to amend my flight bookings so I could return home, I was so, so grateful. I will never forget that. Great service, great people!
"Good on Lufthansa for doing the decent thing"
Getting paid by British supermarkets for delivering a service?
I've got no problem, it's good business, but it certainly isn't charity
Getting paid by British supermarkets for delivering a service?
I've got no problem, it's good business, but it certainly isn't charity
All the brexiteers will be raging that the Germans are bailing us out (just repaying the Berlin airdrop) Thanks Germany
Business people do business when it makes sense financially. This is what’s happening.
Here in Germany, nobody pays attention to the anti European feeling emanating from the UK.
Here in Germany, nobody pays attention to the anti European feeling emanating from the UK.
Airlifts - LOL! How the BBC hates the UK and just lurves the EU.
To be fair, there are goods being lifted by air: what IS your problem?
BBC doesn't even care about journalistic integrity anymore. They know the writing is on the wall and within 10 years they are to be dismantled and their overpaid "talent" will need to get proper jobs in an actual competitive environment. So they just print this sensationalist nonsense. France closes borders, Germany's industry uses a different freight method and according to the BBC it's doomsday.
It's not "an airlift", it's air freight. It's not an emergency, it's a business opportunity. Nobody ever had xmas ruined because they couldn't buy lettuce.
Indeed
What about Mr Cress, from Inverness? His crimbo was terrible, the lettuce inedible, he shouted titanic, as the iceberg approached, and put it in salad beyond all reproach
Airlift, noun
an act of transporting supplies by aircraft, typically in a blockade or other emergency.
UK cannot use ports meaning no deliveries in, empty lorries can't get back to base to fill and come back in. Supermarkets are warning of supply chain problems and various products being unavailable not just lettuce
It's 100% the correct use
an act of transporting supplies by aircraft, typically in a blockade or other emergency.
UK cannot use ports meaning no deliveries in, empty lorries can't get back to base to fill and come back in. Supermarkets are warning of supply chain problems and various products being unavailable not just lettuce
It's 100% the correct use
if you're a billionaire who's value of $10 billion has gone up by 20% during the pandemic, and this means your value goes down by 20% - your Xmas is ruined
Plenty of lettuce grown here in winter. But the likes of Tesco and never going to buy them at 10p a piece when they can get them from the EU for next to nothing.
Try telling that to the Easter Bunny. He was already on hunger strike because Cadbury's was bought by the Americans! And don't mention the Mad March hare, that poor sod was on a good earner as Trump's hair piece, and now he's out of a job as well....
Especially since we have decided to turn our back on them to try to "go it alone" in the world.