Redundancy plans fall after furlough extension
23/12/2020 | news | business | 54
36,700 redundancies were planned in Britain in November, the lowest figure since March
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23/12/2020 10:56:22 12 9
bbc
Good work by the Tories, I wonder how much furlough has been undertaken by other countries like the US, Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc?
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23/12/2020 11:24:19 8 13
bbc
Rubbish. The Chancellor got the idea from Germany and as a resident of Spain I can tell you that the legally employed people here are safeguarded. The British cash in hand/non taxpayers who contribute nothing to Spain are obviously complaining but BREXIT will catch them out and reduce the indigenous unemployment. BUT WAIT.....is that not what the BREXITEERS want for England.......
12
23/12/2020 11:49:47 5 0
bbc
In the US you get furloughed with zero pay. The idea is they keep your job open for you but you need to support yourself. Very brutal employment laws in the US.
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23/12/2020 13:24:23 0 0
bbc
Wonder why there isnt a pan european or even UN approach? we all seem to be doing things differently
2
23/12/2020 10:59:36 11 3
bbc
On some level this is just kicking the can down the road.
If we don't fundamentally alter our response to this virus then the economy is going to be an unrecoverable shambles very soon.
5
23/12/2020 11:20:53 8 6
bbc
I thought that Blair (for once) was talking sense about the single dose of vaccine so we can get it moving more quickly.
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23/12/2020 12:13:35 0 0
bbc
Is the economy unrecoverable though - the ideas in MMT and the Great Reset, would help and not hurt the majority much. They could harm to the moderately wealthy if implemented poorly but the only ones who would be ruined would be the intentionally economically inactive who don't have the contacts/current skills to return to work, and so they would need practical help.
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23/12/2020 11:01:05 6 5
bbc
we are helped more than most especially the States, should be thankful
Also the wfh brigade better get their profiles up by doing a few days at the office.
Out of sight out of mind
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23/12/2020 11:14:43 19 1
bbc
This could just be postponing redundancies until Furlough ends. It will just end up being a super-dole.
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23/12/2020 19:23:04 1 2
bbc
You will be surprised how many companies operate employee management which is the back door redundancy route. Make an employee leave by treating them badly without the Ned to pay a redundancy.
2
23/12/2020 10:59:36 11 3
bbc
On some level this is just kicking the can down the road.
If we don't fundamentally alter our response to this virus then the economy is going to be an unrecoverable shambles very soon.
5
23/12/2020 11:20:53 8 6
bbc
I thought that Blair (for once) was talking sense about the single dose of vaccine so we can get it moving more quickly.
8
23/12/2020 11:26:51 6 1
bbc
I normally can't stand Blair, think he did lots of damage to the UK (mostly by ruining higher education and triggering FoM which led directly to Brexit), but at least he still takes an interest in what is happening in the UK, unlike Cameron who just swanned off after losing his gamble with the referendum.
1
23/12/2020 10:56:22 12 9
bbc
Good work by the Tories, I wonder how much furlough has been undertaken by other countries like the US, Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc?
6
23/12/2020 11:24:19 8 13
bbc
Rubbish. The Chancellor got the idea from Germany and as a resident of Spain I can tell you that the legally employed people here are safeguarded. The British cash in hand/non taxpayers who contribute nothing to Spain are obviously complaining but BREXIT will catch them out and reduce the indigenous unemployment. BUT WAIT.....is that not what the BREXITEERS want for England.......
7
23/12/2020 11:29:53 8 5
bbc
Foaming-mouthed response from overly-triggered extreme remainer by the looks of it.

How can my question be "rubbish"? I didn't state anything, merely asked the question about how other countries have furloughed.

Calm down dear.
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23/12/2020 11:41:17 4 2
bbc
No, he didn't get the idea from Germany!
In October he extended it in the German Kurzarbeit style, but the original furlough in the UK was its own.
40
23/12/2020 17:21:54 0 0
bbc
What Brexit supporters want is sovereignty and freedom, not what you suggest. Remainers love insulting those who disagree with them.
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23/12/2020 22:00:51 0 0
bbc
The trouble with Spain is it's too onerous for companies employ staff on permeant contracts as it's impossible to dismiss or make them redundant plus the costs of employing staff is far higher than in this country. The majority of people you refer to are to are on zero hours self employed contracts. They don't help themselves in Spain by shortlisting on the basis of experience or qualifications.
6
23/12/2020 11:24:19 8 13
bbc
Rubbish. The Chancellor got the idea from Germany and as a resident of Spain I can tell you that the legally employed people here are safeguarded. The British cash in hand/non taxpayers who contribute nothing to Spain are obviously complaining but BREXIT will catch them out and reduce the indigenous unemployment. BUT WAIT.....is that not what the BREXITEERS want for England.......
7
23/12/2020 11:29:53 8 5
bbc
Foaming-mouthed response from overly-triggered extreme remainer by the looks of it.

How can my question be "rubbish"? I didn't state anything, merely asked the question about how other countries have furloughed.

Calm down dear.
10
23/12/2020 11:39:54 4 6
bbc
Not a remainer just a British European who has ditched the sinking UK. Instead of asking a question (lol) you could have researched. Feeling a tad uncomfortable....NO, I do not suppose so, after your ' calm down dear'
5
23/12/2020 11:20:53 8 6
bbc
I thought that Blair (for once) was talking sense about the single dose of vaccine so we can get it moving more quickly.
8
23/12/2020 11:26:51 6 1
bbc
I normally can't stand Blair, think he did lots of damage to the UK (mostly by ruining higher education and triggering FoM which led directly to Brexit), but at least he still takes an interest in what is happening in the UK, unlike Cameron who just swanned off after losing his gamble with the referendum.
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23/12/2020 11:37:09 0 4
bbc
You will be getting many illegal immigrants in Spain returning to the UK after BREXIT. Good riddance - the end of FOM
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23/12/2020 12:36:24 2 0
bbc
Completely agree, Blair's mismanagement of the A10 countries entrance was most definitely what caused Brexit due to its negative impacts on the young and working class re wages and accommodation costs.
8
23/12/2020 11:26:51 6 1
bbc
I normally can't stand Blair, think he did lots of damage to the UK (mostly by ruining higher education and triggering FoM which led directly to Brexit), but at least he still takes an interest in what is happening in the UK, unlike Cameron who just swanned off after losing his gamble with the referendum.
9
23/12/2020 11:37:09 0 4
bbc
You will be getting many illegal immigrants in Spain returning to the UK after BREXIT. Good riddance - the end of FOM
7
23/12/2020 11:29:53 8 5
bbc
Foaming-mouthed response from overly-triggered extreme remainer by the looks of it.

How can my question be "rubbish"? I didn't state anything, merely asked the question about how other countries have furloughed.

Calm down dear.
10
23/12/2020 11:39:54 4 6
bbc
Not a remainer just a British European who has ditched the sinking UK. Instead of asking a question (lol) you could have researched. Feeling a tad uncomfortable....NO, I do not suppose so, after your ' calm down dear'
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23/12/2020 12:31:34 2 2
bbc
Why are you so angry
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23/12/2020 12:39:13 1 1
bbc
Asking questions IS research.

I assumed you were a remoaner as it is these extreme remainers to whom everything is Brexit and everything about the UK is bad - their angry petulance at losing a vote is all-consuming for them.
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23/12/2020 12:39:38 2 1
bbc
"Not a remainer just a British European who has ditched the sinking UK."

Well you've followed your identity as a 'British European' and that is absolutely fine with me.

Please could ask though that you don't come back.
6
23/12/2020 11:24:19 8 13
bbc
Rubbish. The Chancellor got the idea from Germany and as a resident of Spain I can tell you that the legally employed people here are safeguarded. The British cash in hand/non taxpayers who contribute nothing to Spain are obviously complaining but BREXIT will catch them out and reduce the indigenous unemployment. BUT WAIT.....is that not what the BREXITEERS want for England.......
11
23/12/2020 11:41:17 4 2
bbc
No, he didn't get the idea from Germany!
In October he extended it in the German Kurzarbeit style, but the original furlough in the UK was its own.
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23/12/2020 11:50:54 2 3
bbc
Thank you
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23/12/2020 10:56:22 12 9
bbc
Good work by the Tories, I wonder how much furlough has been undertaken by other countries like the US, Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc?
12
23/12/2020 11:49:47 5 0
bbc
In the US you get furloughed with zero pay. The idea is they keep your job open for you but you need to support yourself. Very brutal employment laws in the US.
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24/12/2020 09:29:00 0 0
bbc
Need the same here. Risk for employer is there is no workforce loyalty (move to another job for 5 cents an hour). Skilled and valued workers are usually treated better than unskilled by employers in USA to engender loyalty. I used to live there and would go back now Trump's gone.
11
23/12/2020 11:41:17 4 2
bbc
No, he didn't get the idea from Germany!
In October he extended it in the German Kurzarbeit style, but the original furlough in the UK was its own.
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23/12/2020 11:50:54 2 3
bbc
Thank you
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23/12/2020 11:53:48 9 5
bbc
If I were 20 years younger I would be heading for Norhtern Ireland. I supect that its new status as in-but-out of the EU, leading eventually to reunifiction with Ireland will provide masses of real economic opportunities - unlike the illusions of opportunity presented by the deluded PM as a result of the brexit disaster.
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23/12/2020 12:17:00 6 2
bbc
" leading eventually to reunifiction with Ireland"

Actually 'reunification' would mean the 26 counties rejoining the UK. The 6 counties have never been part of an Irish republic and therefore can't be 're'unified with it.

BTW, NI has been in the EU single market for 30 years, being part of it now will be nothing novel so it's hard to see where these 'Masses of opportunities' will come from
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23/12/2020 17:18:11 1 0
bbc
Many people in these discussions talk as though Irish unification was inevitable, but the Republic or Ireland cannot afford financially to take over Northern Ireland, which gets a large subsidy from the UK. Also, the Republic could not absorb a million Unionists who regard themselves as British. There would be civil unrest and the reformation of Loyalist militias.
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24/12/2020 09:21:00 0 0
bbc
NI would need freeport status which is not on offer.
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23/12/2020 11:59:45 3 1
bbc
So the FOI did not have the desired outcome for the BBC and they have to come up with an alternative view, redundancies are still going on, Severn Power Station in Newport some staff worked last shifts last night.
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23/12/2020 10:59:36 11 3
bbc
On some level this is just kicking the can down the road.
If we don't fundamentally alter our response to this virus then the economy is going to be an unrecoverable shambles very soon.
16
23/12/2020 12:13:35 0 0
bbc
Is the economy unrecoverable though - the ideas in MMT and the Great Reset, would help and not hurt the majority much. They could harm to the moderately wealthy if implemented poorly but the only ones who would be ruined would be the intentionally economically inactive who don't have the contacts/current skills to return to work, and so they would need practical help.
17
23/12/2020 12:16:57 2 1
bbc
Yep
Let govt foot a higher bill
14
23/12/2020 11:53:48 9 5
bbc
If I were 20 years younger I would be heading for Norhtern Ireland. I supect that its new status as in-but-out of the EU, leading eventually to reunifiction with Ireland will provide masses of real economic opportunities - unlike the illusions of opportunity presented by the deluded PM as a result of the brexit disaster.
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23/12/2020 12:17:00 6 2
bbc
" leading eventually to reunifiction with Ireland"

Actually 'reunification' would mean the 26 counties rejoining the UK. The 6 counties have never been part of an Irish republic and therefore can't be 're'unified with it.

BTW, NI has been in the EU single market for 30 years, being part of it now will be nothing novel so it's hard to see where these 'Masses of opportunities' will come from
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23/12/2020 17:19:40 0 0
bbc
Correct, there has never been an independent unified state of Ireland, which has been unified only when it was part of the UK.
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23/12/2020 11:39:54 4 6
bbc
Not a remainer just a British European who has ditched the sinking UK. Instead of asking a question (lol) you could have researched. Feeling a tad uncomfortable....NO, I do not suppose so, after your ' calm down dear'
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23/12/2020 12:31:34 2 2
bbc
Why are you so angry
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23/12/2020 12:33:26 21 0
bbc
I know furlough has been a lifeline for many and it probably sounds callous but I can't wait for it to end - I don't want to live in a zombie economy for the next few years - like many others, I need the transaction/deal activity and opportunities that economic shock and the inevitable correction brings.

Its coming, just a matter of when.
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23/12/2020 11:26:51 6 1
bbc
I normally can't stand Blair, think he did lots of damage to the UK (mostly by ruining higher education and triggering FoM which led directly to Brexit), but at least he still takes an interest in what is happening in the UK, unlike Cameron who just swanned off after losing his gamble with the referendum.
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23/12/2020 12:36:24 2 0
bbc
Completely agree, Blair's mismanagement of the A10 countries entrance was most definitely what caused Brexit due to its negative impacts on the young and working class re wages and accommodation costs.
10
23/12/2020 11:39:54 4 6
bbc
Not a remainer just a British European who has ditched the sinking UK. Instead of asking a question (lol) you could have researched. Feeling a tad uncomfortable....NO, I do not suppose so, after your ' calm down dear'
22
23/12/2020 12:39:13 1 1
bbc
Asking questions IS research.

I assumed you were a remoaner as it is these extreme remainers to whom everything is Brexit and everything about the UK is bad - their angry petulance at losing a vote is all-consuming for them.
10
23/12/2020 11:39:54 4 6
bbc
Not a remainer just a British European who has ditched the sinking UK. Instead of asking a question (lol) you could have researched. Feeling a tad uncomfortable....NO, I do not suppose so, after your ' calm down dear'
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23/12/2020 12:39:38 2 1
bbc
"Not a remainer just a British European who has ditched the sinking UK."

Well you've followed your identity as a 'British European' and that is absolutely fine with me.

Please could ask though that you don't come back.
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23/12/2020 12:54:46 12 11
bbc
Get rid of this furlough rubbish. My neighbour has been sat on his backside since March doing nothing and still getting paid on furlough. And now he's had the brilliant news that he can stay sat for another 4 months, brilliant! Meanwhile as a key worker I have to go out there and earn my money. Disgrace.
36
23/12/2020 16:48:41 5 0
bbc
Yeh, lets get rid of this forced business closure and let everyone of working age with a job go back to work, rather than forcing working age people to say home to protect the retired.
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23/12/2020 13:04:50 4 1
bbc
Its all well and good being able to furlough employees, but businesses still need some staff to cover ongoing ticking over duties + they need to pay other overheads, rent, plant, equipment costs, depreciation, insurances, phones etc. With no income, many businesses are haemoraging cash at a scary rate. Its not sustainable and many thousands of good, profitable businesses will simply go to the wall
32
23/12/2020 14:23:56 2 2
bbc
periods of economic downturn are good for the economy long term. it allows the dead wood that are zombie companies to fold, freeing up market share for active & profitable companies.

With the Gov scheme of furlough, rates relief & tying landlords hands behind their back they have simply extended the economic pain for longer than needs be.
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23/12/2020 13:08:31 4 5
bbc
The furlough scheme is actually helping to fuel the house price rises we've seen in the last few months. Get rid of it and let the market dictate prices, as it has done for years. Paying people £2500 a month to enjoy life without working is a disgrace to those who have to survive on UC. When we come through this pandemic we need people to be able to spend money in shops not on inflated mortgages.
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23/12/2020 14:21:06 2 0
bbc
Its not furlough scheme that's fueling house prices. Its those that have been WfH throughout & are likely to continue doing so after this is over. Saving a fortune (no commute, lunches out etc) thus increasing affordability in terms of mortgage & with less days of commute they dont mind traveling further so have broadened their sear areas

anyone buying while on furlough is foolish of full hardy
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23/12/2020 22:39:03 0 0
bbc
I am furloughed, against my will, I am 63 yrs old, between my wife and myself we have worked for 90 years, and paid god knows what into the system, do not try to imply that we are not entitled to proper support now.
We have been supporting as many businesses as we can during this time, by being active where we could.
so, who is a disgrace?
1
23/12/2020 10:56:22 12 9
bbc
Good work by the Tories, I wonder how much furlough has been undertaken by other countries like the US, Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc?
27
23/12/2020 13:24:23 0 0
bbc
Wonder why there isnt a pan european or even UN approach? we all seem to be doing things differently
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23/12/2020 13:30:51 7 1
bbc
Where is the LABOUR opposition at the centre of all this Chaos? There is a VACANCY at the Head of Labour!!
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23/12/2020 14:16:46 5 1
bbc
You think the economic damage is bad now...... wait until the restrictions are finally lifted & landlords can go after their rent (currently end of March 2021). By then many commercial occupiers will have amassed 15 months worth of arrears!

The Gov have been kicking the can down the road & by doing so are exacerbating the economic pain, by extending the period of no confidence & uncertainty
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23/12/2020 13:08:31 4 5
bbc
The furlough scheme is actually helping to fuel the house price rises we've seen in the last few months. Get rid of it and let the market dictate prices, as it has done for years. Paying people £2500 a month to enjoy life without working is a disgrace to those who have to survive on UC. When we come through this pandemic we need people to be able to spend money in shops not on inflated mortgages.
30
23/12/2020 14:21:06 2 0
bbc
Its not furlough scheme that's fueling house prices. Its those that have been WfH throughout & are likely to continue doing so after this is over. Saving a fortune (no commute, lunches out etc) thus increasing affordability in terms of mortgage & with less days of commute they dont mind traveling further so have broadened their sear areas

anyone buying while on furlough is foolish of full hardy
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23/12/2020 14:21:13 8 1
bbc
Don't call folks lazy when they're not allowed to work, it just shows your envious nature. Those people currently at home while still recieving a percentage of their pay didn't ask for this, they have been forced to it by the covid rules, restrictions & regulations brought in by the government. If you had decided to spend your working life in an office cubicle then you too could be furloughed now.
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24/12/2020 07:32:58 0 0
bbc
You can get another job while on furlough! And maybe its a good to time to try and find something.
25
23/12/2020 13:04:50 4 1
bbc
Its all well and good being able to furlough employees, but businesses still need some staff to cover ongoing ticking over duties + they need to pay other overheads, rent, plant, equipment costs, depreciation, insurances, phones etc. With no income, many businesses are haemoraging cash at a scary rate. Its not sustainable and many thousands of good, profitable businesses will simply go to the wall
32
23/12/2020 14:23:56 2 2
bbc
periods of economic downturn are good for the economy long term. it allows the dead wood that are zombie companies to fold, freeing up market share for active & profitable companies.

With the Gov scheme of furlough, rates relief & tying landlords hands behind their back they have simply extended the economic pain for longer than needs be.
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23/12/2020 14:29:45 6 2
bbc
More debt for our children and grandchildren.

You don't need hindsight to know the govt should have acted sooner and more decisively.

Still, the can rest safe in the knowledge that our politicians are never held to account. If Blair got away with war crimes, you know BoJo & co will be just fine ruining Britain.
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Leo
23/12/2020 14:57:23 1 7
bbc
Furlough: giving people taxpayers money for jobs that in most cases will not be there after Covid. We have U. Credit for a reason. Even if the jobs remain why are people not told to claim until they are required by their employers again?

Just a cynical attempt to keep unemployment figures down.
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23/12/2020 22:49:39 0 1
bbc
and where did 'the taxpayers" money come from, the people on furlough at the moment?
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23/12/2020 16:42:22 5 0
bbc
They don't check if the company that employed them still exists,many on furlough are actually out of work.
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23/12/2020 12:54:46 12 11
bbc
Get rid of this furlough rubbish. My neighbour has been sat on his backside since March doing nothing and still getting paid on furlough. And now he's had the brilliant news that he can stay sat for another 4 months, brilliant! Meanwhile as a key worker I have to go out there and earn my money. Disgrace.
36
23/12/2020 16:48:41 5 0
bbc
Yeh, lets get rid of this forced business closure and let everyone of working age with a job go back to work, rather than forcing working age people to say home to protect the retired.
37
23/12/2020 17:11:51 9 0
bbc
If C19 does hit, no need for the patient to go to NHS, as all they need to do is rest, eat well, take Panadol & stay at home for 10 days. Not every old person is going to die as long as they are healthy and fit. If they are not and worried, they isolate, while the rest of the country is opened up to do actual work!

Learn from China! They are all working & making money while we dither in despair!
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23/12/2020 22:33:52 1 0
bbc
spot on!
14
23/12/2020 11:53:48 9 5
bbc
If I were 20 years younger I would be heading for Norhtern Ireland. I supect that its new status as in-but-out of the EU, leading eventually to reunifiction with Ireland will provide masses of real economic opportunities - unlike the illusions of opportunity presented by the deluded PM as a result of the brexit disaster.
38
23/12/2020 17:18:11 1 0
bbc
Many people in these discussions talk as though Irish unification was inevitable, but the Republic or Ireland cannot afford financially to take over Northern Ireland, which gets a large subsidy from the UK. Also, the Republic could not absorb a million Unionists who regard themselves as British. There would be civil unrest and the reformation of Loyalist militias.
18
23/12/2020 12:17:00 6 2
bbc
" leading eventually to reunifiction with Ireland"

Actually 'reunification' would mean the 26 counties rejoining the UK. The 6 counties have never been part of an Irish republic and therefore can't be 're'unified with it.

BTW, NI has been in the EU single market for 30 years, being part of it now will be nothing novel so it's hard to see where these 'Masses of opportunities' will come from
39
23/12/2020 17:19:40 0 0
bbc
Correct, there has never been an independent unified state of Ireland, which has been unified only when it was part of the UK.
6
23/12/2020 11:24:19 8 13
bbc
Rubbish. The Chancellor got the idea from Germany and as a resident of Spain I can tell you that the legally employed people here are safeguarded. The British cash in hand/non taxpayers who contribute nothing to Spain are obviously complaining but BREXIT will catch them out and reduce the indigenous unemployment. BUT WAIT.....is that not what the BREXITEERS want for England.......
40
23/12/2020 17:21:54 0 0
bbc
What Brexit supporters want is sovereignty and freedom, not what you suggest. Remainers love insulting those who disagree with them.
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23/12/2020 17:35:25 9 0
bbc
Should not shareholders come up with the money?

Profits to investors - debt to taxpayers.

If a company can not survive 6 month it is not fit anyway.
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23/12/2020 18:29:58 0 0
bbc
There is no one else to sack
4
23/12/2020 11:14:43 19 1
bbc
This could just be postponing redundancies until Furlough ends. It will just end up being a super-dole.
43
23/12/2020 19:23:04 1 2
bbc
You will be surprised how many companies operate employee management which is the back door redundancy route. Make an employee leave by treating them badly without the Ned to pay a redundancy.
44
23/12/2020 20:52:23 0 0
bbc
its very generous of the government to pay furlough at all. many people were not so fortunate. there will be payback at some stage.
6
23/12/2020 11:24:19 8 13
bbc
Rubbish. The Chancellor got the idea from Germany and as a resident of Spain I can tell you that the legally employed people here are safeguarded. The British cash in hand/non taxpayers who contribute nothing to Spain are obviously complaining but BREXIT will catch them out and reduce the indigenous unemployment. BUT WAIT.....is that not what the BREXITEERS want for England.......
45
23/12/2020 22:00:51 0 0
bbc
The trouble with Spain is it's too onerous for companies employ staff on permeant contracts as it's impossible to dismiss or make them redundant plus the costs of employing staff is far higher than in this country. The majority of people you refer to are to are on zero hours self employed contracts. They don't help themselves in Spain by shortlisting on the basis of experience or qualifications.
37
23/12/2020 17:11:51 9 0
bbc
If C19 does hit, no need for the patient to go to NHS, as all they need to do is rest, eat well, take Panadol & stay at home for 10 days. Not every old person is going to die as long as they are healthy and fit. If they are not and worried, they isolate, while the rest of the country is opened up to do actual work!

Learn from China! They are all working & making money while we dither in despair!
46
23/12/2020 22:33:52 1 0
bbc
spot on!
26
23/12/2020 13:08:31 4 5
bbc
The furlough scheme is actually helping to fuel the house price rises we've seen in the last few months. Get rid of it and let the market dictate prices, as it has done for years. Paying people £2500 a month to enjoy life without working is a disgrace to those who have to survive on UC. When we come through this pandemic we need people to be able to spend money in shops not on inflated mortgages.
47
23/12/2020 22:39:03 0 0
bbc
I am furloughed, against my will, I am 63 yrs old, between my wife and myself we have worked for 90 years, and paid god knows what into the system, do not try to imply that we are not entitled to proper support now.
We have been supporting as many businesses as we can during this time, by being active where we could.
so, who is a disgrace?
34
Leo
23/12/2020 14:57:23 1 7
bbc
Furlough: giving people taxpayers money for jobs that in most cases will not be there after Covid. We have U. Credit for a reason. Even if the jobs remain why are people not told to claim until they are required by their employers again?

Just a cynical attempt to keep unemployment figures down.
48
23/12/2020 22:49:39 0 1
bbc
and where did 'the taxpayers" money come from, the people on furlough at the moment?
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24/12/2020 07:22:48 0 0
bbc
What mostly low wage jobs that don’t make a net contribution when they are working?
49
24/12/2020 07:13:24 1 1
bbc
The reason so many fail is no reserves. The modern accountancy tactic is to run the company on debt/borrowing, reducing the Tax burden.
But when the unexpected happens, no room for manoeuvre.
But the Big Boss is safe, might even get a bonus for all the work in making ordinary workers redundant, and selling off assets.
we need to look again at rules for proper company governance and practice.
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24/12/2020 09:36:23 0 0
bbc
What you have posted may be the case for large corporations but for most small to medium size businesses it us not.

I own a small business and know many others that operate them. Be assured they are not run on debt and do have adequate reserves.

My business has now suffered severely reduced revenues for 10 months. Reserves are now under pressure.
48
23/12/2020 22:49:39 0 1
bbc
and where did 'the taxpayers" money come from, the people on furlough at the moment?
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24/12/2020 07:22:48 0 0
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What mostly low wage jobs that don’t make a net contribution when they are working?
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23/12/2020 14:21:13 8 1
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Don't call folks lazy when they're not allowed to work, it just shows your envious nature. Those people currently at home while still recieving a percentage of their pay didn't ask for this, they have been forced to it by the covid rules, restrictions & regulations brought in by the government. If you had decided to spend your working life in an office cubicle then you too could be furloughed now.
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24/12/2020 07:32:58 0 0
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You can get another job while on furlough! And maybe its a good to time to try and find something.
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23/12/2020 11:53:48 9 5
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If I were 20 years younger I would be heading for Norhtern Ireland. I supect that its new status as in-but-out of the EU, leading eventually to reunifiction with Ireland will provide masses of real economic opportunities - unlike the illusions of opportunity presented by the deluded PM as a result of the brexit disaster.
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24/12/2020 09:21:00 0 0
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NI would need freeport status which is not on offer.
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23/12/2020 11:49:47 5 0
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In the US you get furloughed with zero pay. The idea is they keep your job open for you but you need to support yourself. Very brutal employment laws in the US.
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24/12/2020 09:29:00 0 0
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Need the same here. Risk for employer is there is no workforce loyalty (move to another job for 5 cents an hour). Skilled and valued workers are usually treated better than unskilled by employers in USA to engender loyalty. I used to live there and would go back now Trump's gone.
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24/12/2020 07:13:24 1 1
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The reason so many fail is no reserves. The modern accountancy tactic is to run the company on debt/borrowing, reducing the Tax burden.
But when the unexpected happens, no room for manoeuvre.
But the Big Boss is safe, might even get a bonus for all the work in making ordinary workers redundant, and selling off assets.
we need to look again at rules for proper company governance and practice.
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24/12/2020 09:36:23 0 0
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What you have posted may be the case for large corporations but for most small to medium size businesses it us not.

I own a small business and know many others that operate them. Be assured they are not run on debt and do have adequate reserves.

My business has now suffered severely reduced revenues for 10 months. Reserves are now under pressure.