EU and UK in 'final push' for post-Brexit trade deal
22/12/2020 | news | politics | 3,496
Talks are continuing in Brussels, with less than 10 days to go until the UK leaves EU trading rules.
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22/12/2020 18:10:03 12 8
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Ah another HYS on Brexit - excuse me while I get the popcorn.
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22/12/2020 18:27:41 4 1
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British or EU popcorn? ;-)
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22/12/2020 18:10:30 87 37
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It all comes down to fish, really! Absurd
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22/12/2020 18:12:49 73 12
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People - know your plaice. Either we'll snapper up a deal or it'll be a load of pollock.
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22/12/2020 18:53:24 3 1
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Yes fish that the majority of us in the UK do not eat. Sea Bass we get from Turkey. Cod 70% from Greenland that we do eat. Shellfish we export Lobster, Crab to Spain and France. Conwy mussels I can not get as the French buy them all. 0.12 of the economy. Car manufacturing 9% of the economy.
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22/12/2020 19:23:23 1 3
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You simply do not understand.
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22/12/2020 19:31:15 3 0
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Feels like we're doing all this just for the halibut.
22/12/2020 20:19:58 3 3
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It comes down to sovereignty, which is not absurd.
22/12/2020 21:16:51 0 0
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Pay attention at the back.... You really should inform yourself. Do you even have the slightest clue? So many idiots on hear without the slightest idea of strong negotiation.. We are negotiating a final settlement. Not swapping football cards in the playground.
22/12/2020 21:41:20 0 0
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it comes down to territorial waters and us having full control over them.
22/12/2020 22:39:06 0 0
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Actually they are still arguing about a much bigger topic which is a possible diversion of EU standards in the future and government aid to companies. The EU don't want to allow for us to do this in the future. Personally I would be happy if we rebuilt all new deals on a platform of this understanding
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22/12/2020 18:10:34 1 3
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And action
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22/12/2020 18:11:00 11 14
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What's the bet that the situation at the southern ports of England will be used as leverage by Mr Barnier.
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22/12/2020 18:14:24 6 8
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none. next?
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22/12/2020 18:12:08 11 13
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Future generations will be aghast we fished at all, let alone argued over the topic.
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22/12/2020 18:17:39 7 4
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I would say more aghast at the way we fished rather than fished at all. What we do now and have done for 60 years or so is totally unsustainable. It's an issue that certainly isn't worth trashing our economy for.
The UK fishing fleet fed this nation through two German world wars. That's why the German EU has spent the last 47 years steadily destroying the UK fishing capacity. Hitlers work done by the EU scum. Removed
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22/12/2020 18:12:11 179 87
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Just do it. We are all fed up with the posturing and no deal makes no sense.
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22/12/2020 18:17:23 142 77
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Yeah, just because we import £35bn from the EU each year, stuff 'em, because we export ....errr... £15bn back....
WTO will amount to some non-trivial changes in the near term, but it's closest to the democracy of the ballot paper.

Plenty of people posting here are resistant to the referendum outcome but they really need to have a good think about the value of democracy and the way they've been behaving over these last four years. No more weasel words please.
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22/12/2020 19:18:25 2 0
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Relax children.......the deal is on its way.
22/12/2020 21:00:54 1 1
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No deal is better than the deal the EU are offering, anyway the French claim the Germans are desperate for a deal, so do nowt ,wait , if they don't come up with anything, have January off and then see if Germany is willing to put their foot down, on Macron's neck. ;-)
22/12/2020 20:48:17 0 0
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Let’s GET BREXIT DONE lol
23/12/2020 12:18:07 0 0
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Agreed but you are dealing with politics not economics. The EU is failing in 5 major european economies and without our finances and markets there will be potential economic collapse and bitterness and squabbling. A trade deal will be agreed sooner or later when it becomes apparent that actually the 5 major eu countries that we do 80% of our trade with are suffering.
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22/12/2020 18:10:30 87 37
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It all comes down to fish, really! Absurd
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22/12/2020 18:12:49 73 12
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People - know your plaice. Either we'll snapper up a deal or it'll be a load of pollock.
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22/12/2020 18:22:19 6 1
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For cod’s sake!
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22/12/2020 18:23:07 4 1
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Actually let’s change that to “for cod’s hake. Let’s not try to haddock our hake and eat it”
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22/12/2020 18:28:32 4 2
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These fish related puns have to stop.

Fin.
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22/12/2020 18:33:19 1 1
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scallops and pollocks for tea then?
22/12/2020 20:43:41 3 0
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You clearly have no sole if you're making jokes about this. That's just off the scale, really bass behaviour, stop carping on.
22/12/2020 23:03:12 0 0
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Or it will be a load of cods !
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23/12/2020 01:08:18 0 0
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Herring
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22/12/2020 18:13:16 20 24
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The UK joined the EC as the figurative "Sick Man of Europe". It is leaving the EU as the literal "Sick Man of Europe". While normally symmetry is an appealing quality, in this case it is somewhat less desirable.
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22/12/2020 18:20:48 12 6
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HMM and if we stay in the EU we will get sicker need an out now!
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22/12/2020 18:22:25 4 4
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You're right. The people who voted to leave don't realise that we were begging to be let in in the first place because we were in such a poor position. Unfortunately the French position at the time proved to be correct.
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22/12/2020 18:23:26 1 5
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We joined a common market. Never ever voted fora European parliament. Stupid rules and legislation coming out of the EU. Especially about free movement. Especially like as a UK citizen you cant bring your wife here and have to move to another country country to be with her. No wonder Italy are giving away Italian passport to Brazilians and they use the third country I.e. UK
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22/12/2020 18:11:00 11 14
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What's the bet that the situation at the southern ports of England will be used as leverage by Mr Barnier.
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22/12/2020 18:14:24 6 8
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none. next?
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22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
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Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
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22/12/2020 18:16:01 28 11
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Sure. BrExit = COVID. Stupid remark.
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22/12/2020 18:17:00 9 3
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Hello Doormat
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22/12/2020 18:17:17 15 3
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Nothing to do with Brexit - but you knew that already.
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22/12/2020 18:18:22 15 2
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Yawn. Try following the news... France closed the border because of covid.
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22/12/2020 18:19:39 9 4
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Hmm and soon the EU will have no lorries , Time to cut imports from the EU Brexit No Deal , just 8 days before we start impounding all French fishing trawlers in our waters!!
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22/12/2020 18:21:01 9 2
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Lorries at diver are not because of brexit but because of the pandemics new strain (don’t confuse the 2, reminders are already trying to blame everything they can on brexit without any proof) being blamed on Kent which is utter rubbish and has been about since at least September do pointless to shut the boarders now but it’s political posturing.

EU cannot understand what sovereignty means!
this is the fault of the French who arrogant and stupid Removed
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22/12/2020 18:23:50 3 7
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Thanks to Brexit, we will have a world-beating lorry park in Kent with a world-beating quantity of the brown stuff being deposited by drivers waiting to cross the Channel
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22/12/2020 18:41:12 4 0
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The French do this 4-5 times every year but I guess that does not support your narrow minded hatred of those who differ in opinion to your superior thinking. Spot the joke there? Probably not.
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22/12/2020 18:15:27 8 15
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The new single about Boris Johnson has more chance of being number 1 at Christmas .than Boris getting a single concession from the large trading group called the EU!
They hold all the cards after all!
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22/12/2020 18:15:33 351 47
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Whichever way you voted, implementing drastic changes such as this, in the current climate, is rather rash.

The media, especially the newspapers, have written their own versions of what's happening, and we forget about these lies just hours later, only to go back and open yet more click-bait headlines.

Level heads are needed. Not insults and blame.
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22/12/2020 18:35:26 341 279
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The idiot needs to ask for an extension at least until Covid is defeated - no one is ready least of all the government.
Weasel words again, I'm afraid. If you had any respect for democracy you'd want them to just get on with it.

The squalid rabble of remain zealots that inhabit these HYS's really need to learn themselves some manners.
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22/12/2020 19:02:14 28 61
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Its time for the UK to walk away from the talks! ANY PRODUCTS WE IMPORT FROM THE EU get them from elsewhere! Any products we export should be finding new markets for immediately!!
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22/12/2020 19:39:05 32 2
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One thing that seems clear to me is that the more sensationalist papers have a significant impact on the views and politics of some sections of the population. They clearly print whatever will sell papers and make more profit for their foreign owners, with scant regard for the truth. Should our political discourse be influenced by the desire of people who pay no tax in the UK to make a profit?
22/12/2020 20:45:15 1 5
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we aren't implementing anything, we have no deal, and as the CBI keep telling us, 'uncertainty' is bad for business. Well, Jan 1st no deal, then there is no uncertainty is there?
22/12/2020 20:54:42 4 2
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@"Whichever way you voted, implementing drastic changes such as this, in the current climate, is rather rash"
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If you believe the NHS will be $350million per week better off from Brexit, it would logically follow that the sooner we are 'free' the better.

So if brexiteers were thinking logically (stop laughing at the back), I'm not sure they should agree with you.
22/12/2020 22:34:01 3 3
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Remains hanging on by a thread until the bitter end. We will leave, we will grow, we will get stronger. It is known.
22/12/2020 23:14:47 1 2
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This was initiated 4 years ago!

Thd crime is wd have told them where to go yet, as the majority voted.

Macron is showing exactly what thd EU is all about, French and German interests, no one else, promoted through a protectionist ratchet that has nothing to do with global trading.
22/12/2020 23:26:21 0 0
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Agreed. And for this we need a time out. About 4 years. A chance for all those with all this skin in the game to be promoted, resign or moved on.
23/12/2020 06:36:17 0 0
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Unfortunately we dont have honest reporting or indeed object journalism now (few exceptions such as Andrew Neil) the rest is just opinion pieces based up very little. Example the new strain of virus was sequenced by the UK first. It was discovered because of differences in testing results in Spain in September....Reuters reported this in September. There are globally 3000 new variants
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22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
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Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
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22/12/2020 18:16:01 28 11
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Sure. BrExit = COVID. Stupid remark.
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22/12/2020 18:16:19 15 15
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Walk away.
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22/12/2020 18:38:49 0 3
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The cliff, she awaits...
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22/12/2020 18:16:27 6 13
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We've got them just where we want them!
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22/12/2020 18:21:01 5 5
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More ridiculous rhetoric to make it sound like we're in a fight - these are our partners you're talking about. If you want to roll-back 40 years of integration across every level of society: social, economic, defence, security, trade, financial markets, research, etc., etc. within just a few years then this is what you get. Did you really not see this coming?!?!?
The EU dictators can stick any deal where the sun never shines. Time to fight. Removed
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22/12/2020 18:18:22 5 7
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You make it sound like these people are our enemies.
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22/12/2020 18:18:35 3 2
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We aren't at war.
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22/12/2020 18:10:25 4 14
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Barnier is about to sell out the people of the European union with a dirty deal..
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22/12/2020 18:20:21 6 2
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Let's hope so!
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22/12/2020 18:37:29 0 1
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You mean he might do something to negotiate a deal?
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22/12/2020 18:16:55 289 146
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It's not just about fish it's about controlling our territorial waters and who can fish in them. Without that we haven't really got Brexit have we?
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22/12/2020 18:20:05 160 43
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Indeed - the UK territorial waters are sacrosanct, however we can offer a longer term deal to the EU than year-by-year over how much we let them fish in the waters. I.e. Year 1 they can fish 70%, Year 2 60% etc etc down to perhaps a situation where we guarantee them the contractual deal for a minimum 30%.
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22/12/2020 18:33:50 21 18
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What do the French give us in return for all these fish? Nothing? Doesn't seem fair.
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22/12/2020 18:42:26 16 5
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You do know that Marine Scotland control all fishing access around their shoreline and will continue to do so after 31st December?
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22/12/2020 18:54:54 5 1
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Big deal, don't think anybody will be invading anytime soon,
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22/12/2020 18:59:12 16 4
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What about if this leads to the break up of the UK and Scottish independence? 62% of UK waters (EEZ) are Scottish and only 31% English. Worth the UK missing out on a deal for?
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22/12/2020 19:00:46 8 9
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Who cares?

Does "controlling our territorial waters" put food on the table? Does it pay the rent? Does it mean I can retire in Spain? Does it mean I get healthcare anywhere in EU? Does it mean I'll pay less for imported goods? Does it mean less red tape and bureaucracy?

The answer to every one of those, of course is NO.

It means less jobs, less money, less freedom.
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22/12/2020 19:13:54 6 2
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They already are controlled and we already have an arrangement in place one based on more than 200 years of custom and practice and most recently our fisheries and governments have traded those rights for other benefits. Now you’re going to rip that up and start again - what for? Our navy is deployed around the world dealing with real problems not a few unwanted fish we don’t eat in the UK.
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22/12/2020 19:20:02 2 1
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Quite right. You have said it.
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22/12/2020 19:41:16 4 2
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The majority of them will be in Indy Scottish waters in due course.
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22/12/2020 19:50:49 1 2
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how many of our fishing boats were trashed by the eu years ago, now we are out they should do the same to their own ,
22/12/2020 20:13:05 1 2
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Actually most commercial fish are in Scottish waters and will be gone from the UK within a couple of years
22/12/2020 21:36:55 1 0
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Just five families on the Sunday Times Rich List hold or control a third of the UK’s fishing quota - control for whom, exactly?
22/12/2020 22:01:02 1 0
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Really want to hear from Brexit voters what they think they are getting out of this-please let us know
22/12/2020 22:10:20 0 0
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Then accept that the trade deal will be worse. Britain cannot expect to get everything its own way.
22/12/2020 23:15:14 0 0
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We do already control them, out to 12 miles, WE are the ones who agreed who could fish in the outer 6 mile limit, other boats (just like we do in theirs) have fished in our waters close to shore for many hundreds of years, since at least the 14th century... well before the EU was even an idea.

Keep the stinky fish, the EU won't buy the 75% we export to them anyway with WTO tariffs on them!
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22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
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Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
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22/12/2020 18:17:00 9 3
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Hello Doormat
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22/12/2020 18:17:03 17 16
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Walk Away!
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22/12/2020 18:19:11 5 9
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That would mean we walk alone. Irony?
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22/12/2020 18:19:43 4 2
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I agree
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22/12/2020 18:17:14 484 135
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Anyone who wants to believe Boris' BS about WTO rules being more than satisfactory, read this Boris quote from 2013:

"As a general tactic in life, it is often useful to give the slight impression that you are deliberately pretending not to know what's going on - because the reality may be that you don't know what's going on, but people won't be able to tell the difference."
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22/12/2020 18:19:15 193 338
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we want our fish
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22/12/2020 18:24:34 38 118
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the French want there cake and eat it but it is our fish not theres
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22/12/2020 18:30:49 63 6
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I think we can and he certainly doesn’t have a clue.
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22/12/2020 19:16:53 1 26
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Can we please have a few quotes from you that are seven years years old!
O no you are perfect.
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22/12/2020 19:17:19 25 1
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He was getting his excuse in.... by 2013 he was dimly aware he himself is not the full package....
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22/12/2020 19:26:06 15 3
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Always knew he was clueless did not realise he told the world this was so in 2013. Why was this not quoted by labour and lib dems at the election?
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22/12/2020 19:37:06 6 0
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Great quote, man!!!
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22/12/2020 19:40:01 0 12
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Thus showing what a very clever person he is.
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22/12/2020 19:54:57 13 2
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''Our'' fish? You do know that the vast makority of fish in the North Sea breed just off the French coast. All the french need to do is sink some nets 5 miles off Fransce and they can keep the lot.
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22/12/2020 20:04:57 0 12
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I don't believe people like you.
22/12/2020 20:28:38 0 5
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I don't think you are pretending.
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22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
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Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
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22/12/2020 18:17:17 15 3
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Nothing to do with Brexit - but you knew that already.
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22/12/2020 18:53:37 0 3
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Everything to do with brexit.
This is how no deal will look like.
Plus add all the ports being very slow because of extra checks and massive redtape.
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22/12/2020 18:12:11 179 87
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Just do it. We are all fed up with the posturing and no deal makes no sense.
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22/12/2020 18:17:23 142 77
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Yeah, just because we import £35bn from the EU each year, stuff 'em, because we export ....errr... £15bn back....
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22/12/2020 18:25:15 42 1
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Where did you get your figures from. If you want to contribute, get your facts right.
In 2019, UK exports to the EU were £294 billion (43% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £374 billion (52% of all UK imports) Statistics on UK-EU trade - House of Commons Library
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22/12/2020 18:24:51 18 1
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Where did you get these figures from? In 2019 we imported £374bn to the EU, and we exported £294bn.
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22/12/2020 18:45:54 15 4
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And are only 50% self sufficient in food you buffoon.
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22/12/2020 18:46:17 10 1
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If you're going to quote figures at least get them right :)
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22/12/2020 19:08:11 6 5
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So cut out trade 100% and we are net 20 billion better off I guess.

On that basis let’s just shrink to nothing globally. Sorted and back to living in mud huts living off eels like the good old days.
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22/12/2020 19:09:29 0 1
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rubbish get your facts right
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22/12/2020 20:11:31 1 0
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So they have more to lose from No Deal that we have.
22/12/2020 20:54:29 0 0
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You PPC a german car? Well that is the problem. You before Britain.
22/12/2020 21:04:23 1 0
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we import far more than that, but don't worry, Nissan have thrown a spanner into the EU car industry with their plan to withdraw from the EU and concentrate on expanding the UK market from 4% to 20% - they'll stuff EU plants & BMW will pour more investment into the UK, as will PSA, they having seen Niissan's move for the UK market.
22/12/2020 21:12:15 0 0
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Never heard of a buyers market?
22/12/2020 22:08:38 0 0
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What rubbish L-Gee get your facts right like Mr Johnson -we export £356bn to EU and £122bn to rest of the world-mayber youcan see what Brexit is for now?
23/12/2020 00:27:59 0 0
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Wrong, simply wrong
23/12/2020 12:23:57 0 0
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Remember currency movements have already wiped out the effect of tariffs. Many EU goods will become impossibly expensive and we will begin to produce our own stuff and switch our markets. Pragmatists in the EU understand the reality and in time a trade deal will be struck. Remember that 80% of eu exports to the UK come from just 5 countries!
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Future generations will be aghast we fished at all, let alone argued over the topic.
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22/12/2020 18:17:39 7 4
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I would say more aghast at the way we fished rather than fished at all. What we do now and have done for 60 years or so is totally unsustainable. It's an issue that certainly isn't worth trashing our economy for.
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22/12/2020 18:18:10 18 16
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EU trying to force us into a deal by blockading our southern ports with France as usual ignoring EU recommendations to allow hauliers through.No french cheese or wine in my house in future,time to walk away who wants to be tied to the EU anymore.
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22/12/2020 18:21:29 1 4
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Terry ................. from Viz?
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22/12/2020 18:23:11 0 2
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Terry ...................... from Viz?
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22/12/2020 18:23:30 0 1
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Um. So how will a no- deal help solve the current blockade?
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22/12/2020 18:23:51 0 1
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So what is this Australian wine like might just try it
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22/12/2020 18:34:53 0 1
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Er.....How can the EU be trying to force something on us when recommending something different?
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22/12/2020 19:43:00 1 0
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How can the EU be forcing a deal by blockading when at the same time recommending against a blockade? Brexiter logic i guess, similar to Trump logic.
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22/12/2020 18:18:13 6 9
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No just stop talking now otherwise Boris will give away our fish
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22/12/2020 18:20:46 4 2
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How can you give away something you've already sold?
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22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
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Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
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22/12/2020 18:18:22 15 2
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Yawn. Try following the news... France closed the border because of covid.
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22/12/2020 18:18:22 5 7
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You make it sound like these people are our enemies.
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22/12/2020 18:27:03 3 2
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They must be because they certainly aren't our friends the way they are treat us!
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22/12/2020 18:18:32 140 102
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The only way the UK can get back full control of its laws, borders and fisheries is to leave without a deal. Simple as that. If duties on brie and prosecco make them expensive you have two choices; pay the extra or don't buy it!
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22/12/2020 18:23:00 128 63
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Brie and Prosecco we can live without, but what about all the other goods and parts for things built in U.K. which we can’t do without and which will now cost more? Brexit fiasco will mean higher prices for all of us.
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22/12/2020 18:25:53 16 6
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What about cauliflower? Brocolli? Have a look in your fridge - a lot of veg is imported right now and that won't change overnight. I quite like these supposed "posh things", like ... y'know... oranges. I'd like them to be cheap.
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22/12/2020 18:32:08 15 4
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No country on Earth has full control of everything if it wants to do trade deals or work in partnership with other countries. As you'll find out when we try to get a deal with the USA.
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22/12/2020 18:35:25 21 3
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And there it is, the usual crux of the matter - why don't you spend five minutes on Google and learn about the countless essential day to day items that are also going to be affected, because I guarantee you it's going to affect you negatively whether you like "brie and prosecco" or not

Being entirely ignorant of things sadly doesn't make them not exist
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22/12/2020 19:13:37 8 0
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So, who you going to sell all those fish to then?

Currently, most of our fish are exported to the EU. With no deal, that business could dry up fast.
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22/12/2020 19:16:32 3 0
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and tomatoes lettue cauliflower most veg really but hey chin chin enjoy your ale happy crimble
22/12/2020 20:56:02 1 3
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Man wants a bike, can't get one locally. More men need bikes too. Man with gumption hears the moans about not being able to get a bike. Man opens factory and makes bikes. Get it? BUY BRITISH and support British (yeah even Scottish) businesses. Money saved from leaving the EU can be used to promote new business startups. It won't happen overnight but believe me there will be loads of opportunity
22/12/2020 23:14:36 0 1
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Right on ! And the UK people would achieve lower prices in the shops if they do as you suggested.
No9
23/12/2020 00:11:39 0 1
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We were a nation but you Brexit voters have turned us into a cult.
CDB
23/12/2020 01:16:13 1 0
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50% of the food we need is imported,
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22/12/2020 18:18:35 3 2
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We aren't at war.
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What is important after all this is over is to analyse what we gained and what we lost in leaving the EU and compare it against what was promised.
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Time to look forwards, not forever harking backwards in a petulant attempt to prove yourself right. This has been the issue with a lot of the remoaners, unable to accept others opinions and votes.
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22/12/2020 18:23:51 27 101
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No what’s important after all this is for remainders to stop complaining and put as much effort in to making it a success, that way we will prosper the most under our own terms and that’s best for all!
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You don't need to wait - we already know - zero
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22/12/2020 19:07:08 21 3
bbc
I agree. There's no way Farage or Johnson would want to do that.

They promised much, and so far not a single promise has materialised. Walking away from the EU with no deal is NOT getting Brexit done.
553
22/12/2020 19:18:53 4 0
bbc
A few years to wait for this.
565
22/12/2020 19:20:06 3 7
bbc
It will take time - Brexit was largely unknown
750
22/12/2020 19:41:15 16 1
bbc
No.
What we need to do is compare what we get, with what we had.
772
22/12/2020 19:44:43 15 2
bbc
It's now down to lose a lot or lose even more. No gains to be made and the promises were laughable at the outset.
795
22/12/2020 19:47:01 2 13
bbc
No, what's important is that the will of the majority is implemented. I voted to remain, but I lost
973
22/12/2020 20:07:33 1 1
bbc
With what purpose?
982
22/12/2020 20:09:41 2 6
bbc
And that won’t happen on the 2nd of January. Five years will tell a different story, but those that lament the Referendum don’t have the courage to face forward, but are firmly rooted in what was.

They need to grow up.
22/12/2020 20:33:00 4 1
bbc
You will get no honest analysis from the Cons as they control the record and will write the History
22/12/2020 20:47:27 1 9
bbc
By whom? Remainers promised us that if we voted to leave we'd leave the EU, single market and the customs union - and we did, and Boris is ensuring we get what remainers said we were voting for, good on Boris, remainers would never have listened to the majority.
22/12/2020 21:46:44 2 9
bbc
Interesting thought north meals.
I do not expect an initial benefit, but in a year or so we will reap the benefits.
We will not be told what we can do by a few large countries and lots of minnows anymore.
The EU is not going to be the big trading area as the countries in the Far East are overtaken them very rapidly. We can get trade with them and our future will be bright. Have faith
22/12/2020 21:59:02 7 1
bbc
I agree with this. If you have a PM who cannot be trusted by anyone who has previously worked with him it is vital to evaluate what inward investment and trade the UK has lost. Leaving the most most successful trading club in the world (warts and all) MUST be reflected upon using evidence. By the way there were about 1000 lorries stuck in Kent yesterday when Johnson said it was 174.
32
22/12/2020 18:18:43 7 13
bbc
As I said before, surely the only fisheries agreement that the UK can accept has to be the 'status quo ante', i.e who fished where and when in UK waters before we joined the EU in 1973. If it was OK for certain foreign fishermen to catch fish in UK waters then, it is surely OK now.
58
22/12/2020 18:22:16 2 1
bbc
Except that the global rules then changed with 200 mile limits. Hence the Cod war and similar episodes on the Grand Banks off Newfoundland. We are discussing are UK territorial waters and I am sure that we are happy to offer licences, but the procedure must respect that we are not in the EU. Our waters, our rules.
98
22/12/2020 18:25:31 0 1
bbc
We sold most of our fishing rights so this wouldn't be possible.
5
22/12/2020 18:12:08 11 13
bbc
Future generations will be aghast we fished at all, let alone argued over the topic.
The UK fishing fleet fed this nation through two German world wars. That's why the German EU has spent the last 47 years steadily destroying the UK fishing capacity. Hitlers work done by the EU scum. Removed
75
22/12/2020 18:23:33 0 1
bbc
If people genuinely believe that, I am certainly worried.

Surprised - unfortunately not.
34
22/12/2020 18:19:09 8 7
bbc
Plaice your bets - Le roast beef Vs L'escargot
They'll need to trawl the depths to sort this one out - If you get my drift ?
Sole searching isn't it !
57
22/12/2020 18:22:16 5 3
bbc
Not for the Kippers.
20
22/12/2020 18:17:03 17 16
bbc
Walk Away!
35
22/12/2020 18:19:11 5 9
bbc
That would mean we walk alone. Irony?
21
22/12/2020 18:17:14 484 135
bbc
Anyone who wants to believe Boris' BS about WTO rules being more than satisfactory, read this Boris quote from 2013:

"As a general tactic in life, it is often useful to give the slight impression that you are deliberately pretending not to know what's going on - because the reality may be that you don't know what's going on, but people won't be able to tell the difference."
36
22/12/2020 18:19:15 193 338
bbc
we want our fish
191
22/12/2020 18:36:21 125 16
bbc
Where are you going to sell it without access to the Single Market?
261
22/12/2020 18:44:09 133 18
bbc
No we don't - we sold the rights to our fish years ago because we don't want it ourselves.
397
22/12/2020 19:03:41 96 11
bbc
Actually, we don't. We export most of it. But with no deal, there could be no market.
416
22/12/2020 19:05:42 15 74
bbc
and our country back
455
22/12/2020 19:08:54 66 7
bbc
Nigel, Nigel, Nigel, you poor thing still so naive
489
22/12/2020 19:12:44 48 7
bbc
You can have your fish, no problem. But you won't be able to sell them to the EU which rather defeats the point of massive fish stocks if you don't eat them and can't sell them. A conundrum for all Brexiteers.
639
22/12/2020 19:27:50 37 8
bbc
Fish is brain food - if english people were all that enthusiastic about eating fish they'd be intelligent and they would never have swallowed fartrage's monstrous lies. Ergo... english people don't eat all that much fish and the whole fish thing is just a pathetic subterfuge to try to cover up your absurd 'brexsit' mistake. Leave the fish to people who know how to cook them.
727
22/12/2020 19:37:23 6 0
bbc
I want my dinner.
749
Ed
22/12/2020 19:41:10 15 2
bbc
And who are you going to sell your fish and shell fish too? Because the Brits don't eat it?
810
22/12/2020 19:48:17 13 2
bbc
Enjoy your pickled herring and squid. British fishermen will have to sell their catch somewhere.
825
22/12/2020 19:50:12 7 1
bbc
UR fish stinks m8 ;)
872
22/12/2020 19:55:37 11 0
bbc
Better to have our jobs!
22/12/2020 20:13:18 3 0
bbc
You’ve had your chips
22/12/2020 20:17:56 11 0
bbc
Not at the expensive of everything else though...unless you have temporarily misplaced all brain cells....
22/12/2020 20:18:43 4 0
bbc
We? Our?
Who are they?
CDB
22/12/2020 20:22:20 9 0
bbc
You do realise that it is Herring, Mackerel & Squid that is caught in UK waters. We Import 90% of the Whitefish we eat from the EU
22/12/2020 20:34:27 7 0
bbc
But we won't eat it! the French etc. will which is why we export it, then have to buy in what they catch because that's what you want in your chippy!
10
22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
bbc
Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
37
22/12/2020 18:19:39 9 4
bbc
Hmm and soon the EU will have no lorries , Time to cut imports from the EU Brexit No Deal , just 8 days before we start impounding all French fishing trawlers in our waters!!
20
22/12/2020 18:17:03 17 16
bbc
Walk Away!
38
22/12/2020 18:19:43 4 2
bbc
I agree
39
22/12/2020 18:19:49 25 12
bbc
Oh look... another HYS from the BBC.
It’s as though they love the both sides slagging each other off. I suppose it’s better than opening HYSs on other, more contentious subjects I guess.
52
22/12/2020 18:21:51 12 15
bbc
Yeah. It stops the racists mouthing off.
121
22/12/2020 18:23:47 5 4
bbc
Its mostly dominated by obsessed and bitter remainers but nevertheless does provide entertainment
18
22/12/2020 18:16:55 289 146
bbc
It's not just about fish it's about controlling our territorial waters and who can fish in them. Without that we haven't really got Brexit have we?
40
22/12/2020 18:20:05 160 43
bbc
Indeed - the UK territorial waters are sacrosanct, however we can offer a longer term deal to the EU than year-by-year over how much we let them fish in the waters. I.e. Year 1 they can fish 70%, Year 2 60% etc etc down to perhaps a situation where we guarantee them the contractual deal for a minimum 30%.
103
22/12/2020 18:25:54 22 38
bbc
French boats should not be fishing in our waters. We can't trust them. If they want our fish they can buy it from English boats.
287
22/12/2020 18:49:10 20 11
bbc
Have you asked the Scottish Government's permission for all of this? They control over 80% of UK waters which contain 62% of all fish caught in the UK.
317
22/12/2020 18:52:35 9 1
bbc
Sacrosanct lool tell that to the fish that don't care
356
22/12/2020 18:58:12 11 20
bbc
How about telling them year 1 0%, Year 2 0% From then on 0%.
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Pav
22/12/2020 19:25:32 6 2
bbc
The UK territorial waters and fishing have become the joke of Brexit. It was never about that and it still I sent. But it’s becoming clear that we have given everything away and will claim some juvenile victory here. Fishing = Emporer’s New Clothes of sovereignty
735
22/12/2020 19:39:00 3 2
bbc
I don’t think that you could describe UK waters as sacrosanct. Continental fishing boats have fished them for centuries.
807
22/12/2020 19:48:03 2 1
bbc
The difference now is that the £20 Ben EU fisheries system is on its knees, and will most likely fall apart if they cannot access our waters and lose even more money. Simply Macron will see the problem with his thinking soon, when the fishermen in France set fire to Paris, as that’s what the french do to ge their own way
999
22/12/2020 20:12:14 0 0
bbc
Dream on. An island with 70m people has little economic muscle.
22/12/2020 20:59:29 0 0
bbc
We could also tell them their trawlermen could apply to the UK for UK quotas.
22/12/2020 21:29:40 0 0
bbc
I think that's exactly what's on offer it's just the EU want less reduction and longer period before it reduces to that level.
22/12/2020 21:45:13 0 0
bbc
It's not simply about fish, it's about fishing. It's the opportunity to sell licences, for money, to foreign fishing companies. We do not eat all the fish we catch and do not have a fishing fleet capable of catching all that can be caught. Will the government be setting up a licencing agency to sell licences?
MT
22/12/2020 22:02:38 1 1
bbc
A disgrace that we ever lost our waters, which then allowed British fishermen to catch a tiny percentage of fish caught IN THEIR OWN WATERS!
22/12/2020 23:16:56 0 0
bbc
Perhaps YOU will pay them for the loss of the UK licences that the UK fisherman legally sold to them in the 1980's then??? Oh, I thought not. Prepare for huge compensation claims to be paid by the UK taxpayer for Brexiteers nationalism and racism (I include some family members in that too).
22/12/2020 23:16:57 0 0
bbc
Been offered by UK, rejected by EU already.
22/12/2020 23:31:16 0 0
bbc
That's exactly what these final final talks are arguing about.

The EU want to be guaranteed 60% over 7 years, we've offered 30% over a shorter time frame.

Originally, the EU wanted more over 10 years.
41
22/12/2020 18:20:06 109 29
bbc
Extra extra read all about it, nothing has changed!!

Just report on it once a deal has been confirmed or it is a no deal. Tired of these news reports.
208
22/12/2020 18:38:17 58 52
bbc
...then don't read them?

So few brain cells out today
905
22/12/2020 19:58:17 3 2
bbc
Yeah, facts and reality are really worrying for the confused, aren't they. Especially when they're busy backing off the bravado of 4 years ago and having to change sides to be on the 'winning' one.
42
22/12/2020 18:20:18 2 9
bbc
It's reported that Boris has caved in on fishing, agreeing to reduce the UK's quota demands on the EU from 80% to 35% of the status quo. The EU wants 25%, which they'll probably get, given the circus going on at Dover, and Tesco's food rationing.
65
22/12/2020 18:22:33 1 1
bbc
Are they running short of lettuce?
101
22/12/2020 18:25:37 0 1
bbc
If BoJo had any sense at all he'd have opposed the fool's charter (brexsit) from the start. But he's not that good, not that smart, not that honest and not that decent - still, a majority of english people voted for him so you've got to live with the dire consequences. Good luck with that, english people.
17
22/12/2020 18:10:25 4 14
bbc
Barnier is about to sell out the people of the European union with a dirty deal..
43
22/12/2020 18:20:21 6 2
bbc
Let's hope so!
26
jez
22/12/2020 18:18:13 6 9
bbc
No just stop talking now otherwise Boris will give away our fish
44
22/12/2020 18:20:46 4 2
bbc
How can you give away something you've already sold?
8
22/12/2020 18:13:16 20 24
bbc
The UK joined the EC as the figurative "Sick Man of Europe". It is leaving the EU as the literal "Sick Man of Europe". While normally symmetry is an appealing quality, in this case it is somewhat less desirable.
45
22/12/2020 18:20:48 12 6
bbc
HMM and if we stay in the EU we will get sicker need an out now!
I see Tesco are already rationing toilet rolls. Why when the Daily Mail is available every morning? Removed
74
22/12/2020 18:23:30 75 75
bbc
It's OK, print off remain HYS comments; easily the most absorbent.
162
22/12/2020 18:29:11 12 8
bbc
I find the Guardian gives more coverage
Ha ha. Guardian too, for those brave enough to admit reading it.
238
22/12/2020 18:41:31 5 4
bbc
Obviously a guardian reader - the mail has the biggest circulation by far so what are you saying about a huge readership ?
345
22/12/2020 18:45:52 5 2
bbc
Not enough people read the Guardian, that's why they have to ration it.
471
22/12/2020 19:10:57 2 0
bbc
You can't ration Covaidiots!
526
22/12/2020 19:15:25 1 0
bbc
You tried using the Mail? Your posterior will end up dirtier than before!
559
22/12/2020 19:19:34 1 1
bbc
Another day closer to leaving WTO!
567
22/12/2020 19:20:17 1 0
bbc
Asda bog rolls are cheaper than the mail .
638
22/12/2020 19:27:40 0 1
bbc
At least you don't have to pay for the crap the Daily Mail prints through a TV tax
696
22/12/2020 19:33:50 0 0
bbc
I would use the guardian for loo roll but they hardly sell any rags these days so rarer than hens teeth.
709
22/12/2020 19:35:24 0 0
bbc
Hahahahahahahaha
711
22/12/2020 19:35:31 1 0
bbc
The Grauniad is far more absorbing and much kinder to ar5* holes.
715
22/12/2020 19:36:04 0 1
bbc
The Daily Mail readers are re********d.
10
22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
bbc
Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
47
22/12/2020 18:21:01 9 2
bbc
Lorries at diver are not because of brexit but because of the pandemics new strain (don’t confuse the 2, reminders are already trying to blame everything they can on brexit without any proof) being blamed on Kent which is utter rubbish and has been about since at least September do pointless to shut the boarders now but it’s political posturing.

EU cannot understand what sovereignty means!
15
22/12/2020 18:16:27 6 13
bbc
We've got them just where we want them!
48
22/12/2020 18:21:01 5 5
bbc
More ridiculous rhetoric to make it sound like we're in a fight - these are our partners you're talking about. If you want to roll-back 40 years of integration across every level of society: social, economic, defence, security, trade, financial markets, research, etc., etc. within just a few years then this is what you get. Did you really not see this coming?!?!?
112
22/12/2020 18:27:12 3 1
bbc
See what coming? - all I can see is freedom followed by sensible trade and work together on standards, security etc.
49
22/12/2020 18:21:13 28 26
bbc
Au Revoir EU... it’s not been nice knowing you. !!
91
22/12/2020 18:25:11 9 7
bbc
We left the EU a year ago - you're a bit late saying goodbye.
50
22/12/2020 18:21:26 65 33
bbc
If a deal is struck, then two cheers!
Why not three? Because it will still be a hard brexit which we will have to learn to live with - but better than no deal at all
492
22/12/2020 19:12:49 50 28
bbc
If fishing really is the last obstacle to a deal, that means Johnson has accepted that he had to give in on level playing field rules. But he wants the headlines in the days running up to signing the deal to be about his "brave stand" for the sake of "our plucky fishermen". It won't make any difference when the hard brexit implications strike, but long-term planning has never been his forte.
508
22/12/2020 19:13:45 2 6
bbc
I repeat - for the millionth time - no deal is better than a bad deal.
23/12/2020 00:35:58 0 1
bbc
Thanks boris.
25
22/12/2020 18:18:10 18 16
bbc
EU trying to force us into a deal by blockading our southern ports with France as usual ignoring EU recommendations to allow hauliers through.No french cheese or wine in my house in future,time to walk away who wants to be tied to the EU anymore.
51
22/12/2020 18:21:29 1 4
bbc
Terry ................. from Viz?
39
22/12/2020 18:19:49 25 12
bbc
Oh look... another HYS from the BBC.
It’s as though they love the both sides slagging each other off. I suppose it’s better than opening HYSs on other, more contentious subjects I guess.
52
22/12/2020 18:21:51 12 15
bbc
Yeah. It stops the racists mouthing off.
22/12/2020 23:46:13 0 0
bbc
No it doesn't rejoiners just rabbit on about the same things and become more racist , xenophobic and abusive the closer we get to their dream of a new Holy Roman Empire departing forever.
31
22/12/2020 18:18:35 341 87
bbc
What is important after all this is over is to analyse what we gained and what we lost in leaving the EU and compare it against what was promised.
53
22/12/2020 18:21:51 330 421
bbc
Time to look forwards, not forever harking backwards in a petulant attempt to prove yourself right. This has been the issue with a lot of the remoaners, unable to accept others opinions and votes.
97
22/12/2020 18:25:29 66 6
bbc
So you think we were lied to.
If we do not learn from the past we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes again.
131
22/12/2020 18:29:32 119 20
bbc
Perhaps the 'remoaners' are people who don't like being told a pack of lies and expected to go along with it?

Just a thought...
156
22/12/2020 18:32:14 85 16
bbc
And the problem with Brexiters is that you're so desperate for everyone to just get on, that you don't seem to understand the basic concept of not doing things that only cause negative outcomes, or the fact that it is actually possible (for intelligent creatures) to work out what those outcomes are ahead of time and make provision to avoid them
166
22/12/2020 18:33:38 72 5
bbc
Opinions are fine. It’s opinions masquerading as facts that I have a problem with.
178
22/12/2020 18:35:17 46 1
bbc
I would tend to agree with looking toward,perhaps hitler will disappear from a lot of anti Europe comments?
179
22/12/2020 18:35:24 4 3
bbc
Same for the loafers
478
22/12/2020 19:11:41 30 2
bbc
I think you'll find Brexit supporters are far more guilty of that.

It's almost impossible to reason with them. Brexit has become a cult.

As for accepting votes. I accepted the 2016 ref. Until I realised how corrupt it was. Like millions of others, I now realise the ref and subsequent tactics such as suspending Parliament are an abuse of democracy.
480
22/12/2020 19:11:44 14 3
bbc
In other words never learn from your mistakes!
555
22/12/2020 19:19:04 18 2
bbc
I accept your right to your opinion - just do not think I will ever respect it as accurate....
642
22/12/2020 19:27:59 13 0
bbc
I accept your opinions and your votes but time will tell if your vote, or mine, was the sensible one.
764
22/12/2020 19:43:37 2 22
bbc
They refuse to accept a democratic majority decision.
They should stop their complaining and help us get on, creating a great future for this sovereign, independent nation.
787
22/12/2020 19:46:36 17 1
bbc
the real problem is people like you who refuse to accept facts and assume that despite being in all respects (except in our twisted electoral system) a minority, that it is right and fair to damage the economy, destroy jobs and generally cause chaos to the 56% of voters who rejected Boris, but despite that still got the incompetence and lies of Brexit and Tories rammed down their throats.
793
22/12/2020 19:46:50 20 1
bbc
So you're admitting it's nowhere near what you were promised then. I'm afraid 'put it down to experience and move on' is far from sufficient for those of us who knew at the outset that this was a mad project which could never come near to the Cummings/Farage/Johnson lies.
794
22/12/2020 19:46:57 12 2
bbc
You almost nailed it with the sentiment looking forwards. The irony of your statement is the pop you then made at “remoaners”. Hardly conducive to putting this behind us and moving on! I see people on both sides of this argument, which has divided our country, “unable to accept others (sic) opinions” and I think we all need to accept and move on... Not to say we’re all happy. And thats allowed.
858
22/12/2020 19:53:51 10 1
bbc
You had some credibility until using the none word "remoaners".
940
22/12/2020 20:02:52 16 1
bbc
The whole vote was organised by the lunatic fringe who managed to dupe disgruntled voters into thinking something positive would be achieved. They voted for a false dawn. Just look at the rag bag in charge of the government.
22/12/2020 20:36:30 10 1
bbc
During the 1950s and 60s the UK was losing it's shipyards, steelworks and heavy engineering, because we couldn't compete with the newly-industrialised countries in the Far East, such as China, Japan, Korea. They have abundant raw materials and cheap labour. Joining the EEC meant tariffs protected us from that competition - that's why I voted for in 1975. Brexiteers haven't learnt from the past.
mjp
22/12/2020 20:41:27 8 1
bbc
Have you never heard of learning from past mistakes?

Without learning from the past much of the knowledge of today just wouldn't be there.
22/12/2020 20:46:45 10 0
bbc
I accept your opinions. What I do not and will not accept is the PM's lies. Or your puerile insults, Brextwit.
22/12/2020 20:49:08 2 6
bbc
They hark back to the days before Universal Suffrage, in fact to the days of the Holy Roman Empire. Which is so EU like in that it was neither Holy nor Roman, or is it The Holy Remainers Empire?
South Africans brought the new virus strain into the UK. Saffers tend not to do good things. Removed
22/12/2020 21:12:28 9 0
bbc
The vote was accepted. There is no law which states you have to accept other peoples opinions. To do so would be dictatorial.
22/12/2020 21:25:10 7 1
bbc
Look foreword, are you a Tory troll from HQ, or just limited in intelligence ?
22/12/2020 21:09:13 9 2
bbc
That is rich coming from a brexit voter! You can't stop looking back. Now you're going to be MADE to look forward, to the return of the UK to the EU.
22/12/2020 21:45:09 10 1
bbc
Spoken like a true quitter who has just woken up to reality....

....oh, there's no danger of us letting you walk away from this mess without being held to account.
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22/12/2020 18:21:52 15 18
bbc
So after all the hot air coming from Boris, he has accepted the deal the EU offered.

In the EU we helped guide the direction of this extraordinary powerful block, outside we are a small fish.

We have not even managed to get access for the City if London. Now everyone can see what a bad idea brexit was. We have literally ruined this country!
82
22/12/2020 18:24:36 15 6
bbc
Small fish?
5th largest economy in the world, ahead of 190-odd others?
2nd Olympics and Paralympics
Largest funder of the WHO and COVAX plan to help developing countries
NATO member and one of the few to fully fund NATO commitments.
And on and on and on.

I know you're upset at losing, but dry your eyes and stop the petulance.
93
22/12/2020 18:25:20 4 3
bbc
No ...making it up again
118
22/12/2020 18:27:42 2 2
bbc
You know a deal has been agreed how?
55
Ed
22/12/2020 18:21:56 4 8
bbc
0.1% of the economy decides what happens to the other 99.9%. Just like real life 0.1% of the population decides what happens to the other 99.9%!
107
22/12/2020 18:26:36 0 1
bbc
And what % does fishing contribute to EU economy? When you look it up you'll find it's a lot smaller than UK
56
22/12/2020 18:22:05 2 8
bbc
Boris we need H-Brexit lorries parked on the M20/26 well done. I need more disruption and don't forget C-19 is going to flare-up. Bojo H-Brexit!
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22/12/2020 18:19:09 8 7
bbc
Plaice your bets - Le roast beef Vs L'escargot
They'll need to trawl the depths to sort this one out - If you get my drift ?
Sole searching isn't it !
57
22/12/2020 18:22:16 5 3
bbc
Not for the Kippers.
32
22/12/2020 18:18:43 7 13
bbc
As I said before, surely the only fisheries agreement that the UK can accept has to be the 'status quo ante', i.e who fished where and when in UK waters before we joined the EU in 1973. If it was OK for certain foreign fishermen to catch fish in UK waters then, it is surely OK now.
58
22/12/2020 18:22:16 2 1
bbc
Except that the global rules then changed with 200 mile limits. Hence the Cod war and similar episodes on the Grand Banks off Newfoundland. We are discussing are UK territorial waters and I am sure that we are happy to offer licences, but the procedure must respect that we are not in the EU. Our waters, our rules.
59
22/12/2020 18:22:18 12 12
bbc
Expecting Boris Johnson to capitulate soon to the EU. Bluff and bluster can only get you so far.
7
22/12/2020 18:12:49 73 12
bbc
People - know your plaice. Either we'll snapper up a deal or it'll be a load of pollock.
60
22/12/2020 18:22:19 6 1
bbc
For cod’s sake!
10
22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
bbc
Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
this is the fault of the French who arrogant and stupid Removed
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22/12/2020 18:41:17 0 3
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And protect their country, like Brexiteers believed we couldn't do. Funny old world, eh?
62
22/12/2020 18:22:24 11 13
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Bungling Bozo and the most incompetent government in living memory ??
125
22/12/2020 18:28:49 0 2
bbc
You're not far wrong, but they are highly unusual in respecting the referendum result instead of just saying that they'd respect it and then do everything in their power to sabotage and thwart BrExit. I do sometimes reflect on those mendacious former MPs and how they might be enjoying their new careers.
8
22/12/2020 18:13:16 20 24
bbc
The UK joined the EC as the figurative "Sick Man of Europe". It is leaving the EU as the literal "Sick Man of Europe". While normally symmetry is an appealing quality, in this case it is somewhat less desirable.
63
22/12/2020 18:22:25 4 4
bbc
You're right. The people who voted to leave don't realise that we were begging to be let in in the first place because we were in such a poor position. Unfortunately the French position at the time proved to be correct.
64
22/12/2020 18:15:15 32 26
bbc
BARNIER KNOWS THE GAME IS UP

EU IS FINISHED

NO WAY WILL THE GERMANS AND FRENCH PROP UP THIS LOT

Luxembourg
Romania
Moldova
Lithuania
Portugal
Spain
Italy
Poland
Hungary
Croatia
Czech Republic

AND GREECE
85
22/12/2020 18:24:46 10 16
bbc
Not again. The Estonians will be angry you have left them out. Probably because you haven't a clue where it is.
86
22/12/2020 18:24:54 5 4
bbc
Yup. Remainers still living in their pathetic dream....
88
22/12/2020 18:25:05 4 2
bbc
Surely the French have been propped up for centuries- mainly by us
96
22/12/2020 18:25:27 1 3
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Stop shouting at the screen ??
99
22/12/2020 18:25:34 4 7
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You read the wrong papers mate, the EU has never been more popular, or stronger.
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Ed
22/12/2020 18:29:43 6 8
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LUXEMBOURG is the richest country in the world!
ITALY has the 8th biggest economy in the world!
POLAND is doing very well economically, thank you!
The EU is still the biggest trading bloc in the world!
Stop kidding yourself that tiny Britain is more important than the biggest trading bloc in the world!
227
22/12/2020 18:34:06 1 5
bbc
Canada are part of the club. China are negotiating very favourable EU trade terms. Who have we left to trade with?
America who want to own us,
Venezuela
India
Pakistan
The futures looking not to great
248
22/12/2020 18:42:17 0 2
bbc
Not only you left out a bunch of EU countries, but you seem to have given Moldova EU membership. Bravo for the high accuracy
42
22/12/2020 18:20:18 2 9
bbc
It's reported that Boris has caved in on fishing, agreeing to reduce the UK's quota demands on the EU from 80% to 35% of the status quo. The EU wants 25%, which they'll probably get, given the circus going on at Dover, and Tesco's food rationing.
65
22/12/2020 18:22:33 1 1
bbc
Are they running short of lettuce?
66
DJL
22/12/2020 18:22:54 2 3
bbc
We seem to be haggling over fish we don't want like grey whiting and horse mackerel. The volume of these fish must make up a fair %age
67
22/12/2020 18:23:00 11 13
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We must have spent millions on wages for these plonkers to discuss very little over the last years!
Just bring on January 1st and no deal
Why should the French fish in our sea.
I haven’t and won’t buy French wine ever again - much prefer NZ and South American
105
22/12/2020 18:25:56 8 4
bbc
If you have never bought it, it is an empty threat.
222
22/12/2020 18:39:52 0 1
bbc
Negotiations by virtue of being a negotiation is open to tactics - including "slow marching", press releases, leaks, ratcheting up demands to push and pull the pendulum, etc ...

There is NO WAY this was ever going to be an immediate resolution by virtue of both sides wanting different things - it takes a long time to tease out compromise - esp if you look at its complexity.
29
22/12/2020 18:18:32 140 102
bbc
The only way the UK can get back full control of its laws, borders and fisheries is to leave without a deal. Simple as that. If duties on brie and prosecco make them expensive you have two choices; pay the extra or don't buy it!
68
22/12/2020 18:23:00 128 63
bbc
Brie and Prosecco we can live without, but what about all the other goods and parts for things built in U.K. which we can’t do without and which will now cost more? Brexit fiasco will mean higher prices for all of us.
233
22/12/2020 18:40:47 11 3
bbc
Brexit fanatics don't understand or just ignore. Those that ignore are proably rich enough that it won't affect them or so super rich that the tax loopholes really do benefit them.
22/12/2020 20:22:41 1 10
bbc
Brexit will create new opportunities. Typical Remainer gloom scenario.
22/12/2020 20:33:53 0 1
bbc
Who cares there is more to life than money!!!
22/12/2020 21:30:09 2 3
bbc
Like what? Nissan just binned the EU for Sunderland because our car market is so lucrative, US wines are looking at squeezing out even more French wines, Aldi were promoting South African produce the other week in my local store. You shouldn't listen to the EU's frenzied propaganda, they are stuffed if they don't get a deal, always easier to find suppliers than customers.
MT
22/12/2020 22:11:37 1 1
bbc
No it won't. For years the EU has actually pushed up shopping bills for its members by its protectionist policies.
22/12/2020 22:23:36 1 1
bbc
Well our entrepreneurs will realise they have to manufacture here for the domestic market. I can see you have never been in industry.
22/12/2020 23:04:34 1 0
bbc
Opportunity knocks!
22/12/2020 23:25:19 1 4
bbc
And what do you think our EU plebs will also be paying.Poor old Pierre on his 2 acres of heavily subsidised scrubland .Oh I forgot the EU won’t have the UKs money anymore , so no money left for the CAP. 1789 rears it’s head again and this will swallow Macron whole .Still Pierre can always work in the real world and join the rest of us .Money for nothing C’est Vrai.
22/12/2020 23:39:10 1 3
bbc
We have the choice to buy those things from anywhere in the world, and most likely cheaper.
Prices skyrocketed when we joined and once we trade elsewhere again, without EU tariffs, prices will be cheaper again.

Try not yo be a bed better. Embrace change.
23/12/2020 12:31:28 0 0
bbc
We can build these things ourselves or switch markets. It is called basic economics. The EU fear us and will negotiate a trade deal in due course as they understand what the consequences will be . With our depreciated currency many tariffs are already wiped out so things will continue to be competitive. The situation for the EU however will be catastrophic
7
22/12/2020 18:12:49 73 12
bbc
People - know your plaice. Either we'll snapper up a deal or it'll be a load of pollock.
69
22/12/2020 18:23:07 4 1
bbc
Actually let’s change that to “for cod’s hake. Let’s not try to haddock our hake and eat it”
25
22/12/2020 18:18:10 18 16
bbc
EU trying to force us into a deal by blockading our southern ports with France as usual ignoring EU recommendations to allow hauliers through.No french cheese or wine in my house in future,time to walk away who wants to be tied to the EU anymore.
70
22/12/2020 18:23:11 0 2
bbc
Terry ...................... from Viz?
71
22/12/2020 18:23:12 2 2
bbc
IT SAYS TALKS IN BRUSSELS are our negotiators staying in brussels since saturday and through to 31st
8
22/12/2020 18:13:16 20 24
bbc
The UK joined the EC as the figurative "Sick Man of Europe". It is leaving the EU as the literal "Sick Man of Europe". While normally symmetry is an appealing quality, in this case it is somewhat less desirable.
72
22/12/2020 18:23:26 1 5
bbc
We joined a common market. Never ever voted fora European parliament. Stupid rules and legislation coming out of the EU. Especially about free movement. Especially like as a UK citizen you cant bring your wife here and have to move to another country country to be with her. No wonder Italy are giving away Italian passport to Brazilians and they use the third country I.e. UK
25
22/12/2020 18:18:10 18 16
bbc
EU trying to force us into a deal by blockading our southern ports with France as usual ignoring EU recommendations to allow hauliers through.No french cheese or wine in my house in future,time to walk away who wants to be tied to the EU anymore.
73
22/12/2020 18:23:30 0 1
bbc
Um. So how will a no- deal help solve the current blockade?
I see Tesco are already rationing toilet rolls. Why when the Daily Mail is available every morning? Removed
74
22/12/2020 18:23:30 75 75
bbc
It's OK, print off remain HYS comments; easily the most absorbent.
300
22/12/2020 18:50:42 7 4
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Wait till brexit bites bud... we are here to comfort you not slag you off for what you have done !
534
22/12/2020 19:16:26 1 2
bbc
True - Remain absorb facts.... .everything just bounces off Leave - truly impervious
591
22/12/2020 19:23:28 1 1
bbc
Wah, haha you're hilarious. ever thought of building your act up into a national joke... Oh that's what 'brexsit' is is it? Not Funny.
592
22/12/2020 19:23:45 1 1
bbc
Those of us who think it is a mistake to leave the EU do so because of the severe economic damage that Brexit will result in. Hundreds of thousands of UK jobs depend on EU trade, 7% of UK tax income results from EU trade, even the Tory Leaver government predict that we will be significantly and noticeably poorer. The comments we make are to help people plan for the coming Brexit recession.
593
22/12/2020 19:24:09 0 0
bbc
vaffanculo stronzo di merda
The UK fishing fleet fed this nation through two German world wars. That's why the German EU has spent the last 47 years steadily destroying the UK fishing capacity. Hitlers work done by the EU scum. Removed
75
22/12/2020 18:23:33 0 1
bbc
If people genuinely believe that, I am certainly worried.

Surprised - unfortunately not.
10
22/12/2020 18:14:34 28 34
bbc
Brexit is a growing fiasco.
3000 lorries in Dover and this is only the beginning.
But brexiters told us that was project fear
76
22/12/2020 18:23:50 3 7
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Thanks to Brexit, we will have a world-beating lorry park in Kent with a world-beating quantity of the brown stuff being deposited by drivers waiting to cross the Channel
25
22/12/2020 18:18:10 18 16
bbc
EU trying to force us into a deal by blockading our southern ports with France as usual ignoring EU recommendations to allow hauliers through.No french cheese or wine in my house in future,time to walk away who wants to be tied to the EU anymore.
77
22/12/2020 18:23:51 0 1
bbc
So what is this Australian wine like might just try it
31
22/12/2020 18:18:35 341 87
bbc
What is important after all this is over is to analyse what we gained and what we lost in leaving the EU and compare it against what was promised.
78
22/12/2020 18:23:51 27 101
bbc
No what’s important after all this is for remainders to stop complaining and put as much effort in to making it a success, that way we will prosper the most under our own terms and that’s best for all!
195
22/12/2020 18:36:39 40 2
bbc
You lead the way, make the sacrifices for what you won!
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Oaf
22/12/2020 18:50:03 74 5
bbc
Yes, please go along quietly, don't complain, we voted for this you know, you now have no right to an opinion....how about No. I'll continue to complain about something I believe is wrong in this (at least for now) society of free speech. By your argument we may as well disband parliament because the government won the GE, so why oppose them? I'd guess assume you own a pair of jackboots?
472
22/12/2020 19:11:08 6 3
bbc
illiterate
482
22/12/2020 19:11:59 33 1
bbc
As a remainer I have no idea how to make Brexit a success. That's why I voted against it. Why don't you Brexiteers tell us what to do?
22/12/2020 20:12:14 6 0
bbc
Great to suggestion.
What will you be doing then?
mjp
22/12/2020 20:46:10 10 0
bbc
I agree entirely.

Actually, only in part.

I'm happy to put effort in even as a remainer.

What would help though is if all the tarrifs imposed are paid by brexiteers. Remainers to pay no tariff.

Thats fair... right... everyone gets what they want.

Brexiteers to pay the price for a spectacular own goal.
22/12/2020 21:00:19 7 0
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You cant polish a turd.
Jim
22/12/2020 21:34:43 7 1
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??????, yeah don't check if you're right, just accept the idiocy of the leavers.
France shutting the border with the UK when this strain of the virus has been found in Belgium, Netherlands, Italy... those borders are still open. When did lorry drivers travelling alone with onboard facilities become high-risk superspreaders... disgraceful behaviour Macron. Removed
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22/12/2020 18:36:22 139 102
bbc
Don't like it up you do you ?
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Oaf
22/12/2020 18:51:37 28 18
bbc
But didn't we vote for this? I thought we wanted to have nothing to do with Europe so we can have sovereignty and prosper?
370
22/12/2020 19:00:16 38 19
bbc
If he maintains this stance we will reroute away from Calais. Plenty more ports to sail to. Bilbao, Rotterdam for example. Lots of Polish and Spanish drivers stranded. They have to drive all the way through France to get to their home. Bugger Calais. It will suffer more than Dover. A business who sells to the UK is not going to stop because Macron is having a hissy fit.
546
22/12/2020 19:17:58 8 6
bbc
Er it appears to have arisen and spread rapidly in Kent.
741
22/12/2020 19:39:48 9 13
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If I was Macron, I would do the same.
Best to utilize the Precautionary Principle.
We know very little about the new mutation, right now.
778
22/12/2020 19:45:20 22 10
bbc
We may as well go no deal WTO now.
France has demonstrated that whatever the agreement they can shut the border at will, so what's the point of an agreement.
852
22/12/2020 19:47:55 9 5
bbc
france let people come in from all those countries, and have shut the door on us ,i wonder why ? they are just worried about the fishing ,its the last little bit of sabre rattling they have left
977
22/12/2020 20:08:22 1 0
bbc
Spot on.
22/12/2020 20:28:55 2 1
bbc
Try to think a second time as writing as you first think doesn't work.

Think what would have happened if the boot was on the other foot and France had a greater incidence of the new COVID variant. Who the UK press be pleading with Boris to allow all the French people travel into the UK unhindered?.

The UK incidence of the new variant is growing far greater than what is being found overseas.
22/12/2020 20:51:22 0 0
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Macron? The Dutch have stopped Britions travelling into Holland. So have other countries in the EU. Not by EU shout either. You certainly think last. Are you from Essex?
22/12/2020 20:56:14 0 0
bbc
How about the UK give Spain Gibraltar".........they voted to stay in the EU
22/12/2020 20:58:42 4 0
bbc
Is this evidence that EU member states already have the right to shut their borders - i.e. "sovrinty"? I also see that the EC is urging member states to lift the UK travel ban! I think this illustrates how vital simple cross-border trading is in this day and age - but some xenophobes may think otherwise.
22/12/2020 21:00:00 0 0
bbc
Ah yes, but in the words of our very own Health Secretary, Matt Hancock, this new variant is 'out of control'. His very own words. Whilst one appreciates this rare glimpse of honesty it's hardly reassuring for our European neighbours. This is a government truly gifted in talent.
22/12/2020 21:01:10 0 0
bbc
France is sovereign too. Btw so is Canada, Israel, India etc
22/12/2020 21:05:05 1 0
bbc
So lorry drivers aren’t like the rest of the human species, needing to eat, wash, go to the toilet, etc?
The only disgraceful behaviour on here is by the likes of you.
Intent on blaming everyone else for the mess that people like yourself have voted for and continue to support despite the facts telling you otherwise.
I guess you also still believe Trump won the US election...
22/12/2020 21:12:48 0 0
bbc
Exactly. It was all political and about Brexit but he soon learned that France will be the ones to suffer.
22/12/2020 21:20:41 0 0
bbc
Remainer’s friends, the French. Says all you need to know...,
22/12/2020 21:23:46 1 0
bbc
How dare they take back control of their borders !
22/12/2020 21:33:17 0 0
bbc
didn't we shut borders with Denmark for a while because of the mink mutation?
22/12/2020 21:07:39 0 0
bbc
Doing exactly what a responsible government does. As a Brexit voter you wouldn't understand that.
80
22/12/2020 18:24:09 8 7
bbc
Eat less junk food and more of our own catch and we don't have to worry about EU putting block on selling fish/crustacea to EU. Eat more fresh fish here each week.
129
22/12/2020 18:29:11 2 2
bbc
You cannot really live on fish alone and in any case the richest waters around what is now the UK will soon belong to an independent Scotland that will be forging links with the EU and abandoning those with England. Finally the fish caught in UK waters are not much eaten in the UK hence the huge amount of fish,millions of pounds worth currently stuck in trucks in Kent
Removed
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22/12/2020 18:17:14 484 135
bbc
Anyone who wants to believe Boris' BS about WTO rules being more than satisfactory, read this Boris quote from 2013:

"As a general tactic in life, it is often useful to give the slight impression that you are deliberately pretending not to know what's going on - because the reality may be that you don't know what's going on, but people won't be able to tell the difference."
81
22/12/2020 18:24:34 38 118
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the French want there cake and eat it but it is our fish not theres
342
22/12/2020 18:56:37 49 16
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It's the water, we don't own the fish,. And only for the EU we wouldn't have any fish,
404
22/12/2020 19:04:08 25 5
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That will be theirs
484
Rob
22/12/2020 19:12:17 31 7
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when Scotland becomes independent ,R U.K fishing waters will decrease by about 3/4 ....check the map.
765
22/12/2020 19:43:37 15 2
bbc
It's our language too, why not try to learn it.
918
22/12/2020 19:59:23 20 2
bbc
Why does the average Brexiteer have a poor level of education? Not a coincidence. Theirs...
998
22/12/2020 20:12:07 10 1
bbc
They’re our main market ??
22/12/2020 20:42:40 3 0
bbc
English is our language too, but some of us have yet to use it properly...
22/12/2020 20:52:08 4 0
bbc
It’s ‘their’ and ‘theirs’ as any true Briton would know Vladamir.
54
22/12/2020 18:21:52 15 18
bbc
So after all the hot air coming from Boris, he has accepted the deal the EU offered.

In the EU we helped guide the direction of this extraordinary powerful block, outside we are a small fish.

We have not even managed to get access for the City if London. Now everyone can see what a bad idea brexit was. We have literally ruined this country!
82
22/12/2020 18:24:36 15 6
bbc
Small fish?
5th largest economy in the world, ahead of 190-odd others?
2nd Olympics and Paralympics
Largest funder of the WHO and COVAX plan to help developing countries
NATO member and one of the few to fully fund NATO commitments.
And on and on and on.

I know you're upset at losing, but dry your eyes and stop the petulance.
127
22/12/2020 18:29:06 3 3
bbc
Unfortunately we will be the 7th largest economy next year after leaving the EU.
Was it worth it!
286
22/12/2020 18:49:03 1 0
bbc
Yes small fish and shrinking, we've dropped to 6th place see: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?most_recent_value_desc=true
The trade agreement is going ahead without the City of London having access to European markets we can expect the UK to continue to fall.

There is no petulance just hard truths not myths and misleading posters plastered across a bus.
449
22/12/2020 18:58:11 0 0
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Thats why it seems obsurd to walk away from our biggest trading partners. They helped our economy recover after the war
Maybe read some history books
83
22/12/2020 18:19:58 6 8
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The last day or two has shown the world how strong and independent we are. Well done Boris and the Brexiteers. Idiotcy has mutated to a higher level
84
22/12/2020 18:24:39 3 3
bbc
The French will make things as difficult as they can for as long as they can. In the end, the Germans will tell them to behave and there will be a deal but maybe not until next year.
230
22/12/2020 18:35:17 0 2
bbc
Sure. Milky drink ?
64
22/12/2020 18:15:15 32 26
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BARNIER KNOWS THE GAME IS UP

EU IS FINISHED

NO WAY WILL THE GERMANS AND FRENCH PROP UP THIS LOT

Luxembourg
Romania
Moldova
Lithuania
Portugal
Spain
Italy
Poland
Hungary
Croatia
Czech Republic

AND GREECE
85
22/12/2020 18:24:46 10 16
bbc
Not again. The Estonians will be angry you have left them out. Probably because you haven't a clue where it is.
64
22/12/2020 18:15:15 32 26
bbc
BARNIER KNOWS THE GAME IS UP

EU IS FINISHED

NO WAY WILL THE GERMANS AND FRENCH PROP UP THIS LOT

Luxembourg
Romania
Moldova
Lithuania
Portugal
Spain
Italy
Poland
Hungary
Croatia
Czech Republic

AND GREECE
86
22/12/2020 18:24:54 5 4
bbc
Yup. Remainers still living in their pathetic dream....
87
22/12/2020 18:24:56 320 149
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Brexiteers have been served a turd on a plate. Boris just doesn't know yet how to break it to them.
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22/12/2020 18:25:55 139 115
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Very mature.
175
22/12/2020 18:34:46 34 11
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He will just roll it in glitter before serving it up. That should suffice Brexiteers.
228
22/12/2020 18:34:50 13 25
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They know. They had it for 40 years but the turd is being scraped into the bin. Nice of you to acknowledge it.
I voted remain, but the more I see of the EU the more I like Europe the less I like the EU.
273
22/12/2020 18:46:29 7 1
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21 day matured.
571
22/12/2020 19:21:03 4 16
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I say well done Boris......you said you would do it. Fab.
867
22/12/2020 19:54:51 3 7
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Have they? How? As far as I can see, there was a democratic vote leave or remain, leave won, leave is now being implemented, probably with no deal. Which is pretty much wha it expected! So the brexit voters, are getting what they voted for, although they should have got it a long time ago, but the remainers wanted to try and reverse a democratic vote.
22/12/2020 20:13:21 2 1
bbc
Yawn.
22/12/2020 20:34:44 0 4
bbc
Hello.... you do realise that the deal, or no deal, is for everyone irrespective of how they voted in the ref... or even if they didn't vote. Grow up.
22/12/2020 21:07:20 0 4
bbc
and refused it, returning it to the EU from whence it came.
22/12/2020 21:28:15 2 0
bbc
Now come on, be fair! Half a dozen turds at least.
22/12/2020 21:36:31 1 2
bbc
One you are fortunately going to have to share.
22/12/2020 21:51:39 0 7
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Hi DK, back again telling us how silly we are to leave our friends in the EU.
Who in their right mind would want to stay and be controlled by Macron and his hangers on?
No, free at last.
What does D. K stand for again?
22/12/2020 22:47:13 0 3
bbc
Dont know about turds but those french can eat my prawn ring
22/12/2020 23:01:23 1 0
bbc
Try a shovel
23/12/2020 12:10:47 0 0
bbc
No we have exercised our right to leave a bad deal. Remember 4 major european countries are on the brink of financial ruin due to the Euro and the way the EU has been set up to favour the Germans an French. No more mass immigration, no more undercutting of our wages and displacement of construction and other skilled trades.
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22/12/2020 18:15:15 32 26
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BARNIER KNOWS THE GAME IS UP

EU IS FINISHED

NO WAY WILL THE GERMANS AND FRENCH PROP UP THIS LOT

Luxembourg
Romania
Moldova
Lithuania
Portugal
Spain
Italy
Poland
Hungary
Croatia
Czech Republic

AND GREECE
88
22/12/2020 18:25:05 4 2
bbc
Surely the French have been propped up for centuries- mainly by us
89
22/12/2020 18:25:05 6 8
bbc
For a deal to be signed, Boris needs to sack Patel. She has been bullying the lorry drivers and Macron will not stand for the way she treats people
124
22/12/2020 18:28:33 5 1
bbc
She should be sacked regardless, she's been worse than useless
90
22/12/2020 18:25:09 326 92
bbc
'Trading on WTO terms would be more than satisfactory' - Of course it will be...if you earn an MP's salary, so any price rise in essential food stuffs will barely register. Same tone-deaf response as the MP who said 'it'll be a bit of pain at the start, but it'll be worth it in the end' - you can see who has the money in these statements from people who've never had to be poor in their lives.
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22/12/2020 18:27:09 152 58
bbc
Let's trade like we're South Sudan
142
22/12/2020 18:30:44 12 21
bbc
What about price drops in essential foodstuffs - from outside the EU and no longer having EU CAP tariffs on them?
293
22/12/2020 18:49:33 8 26
bbc
Maybe they could take the mandatory 5% tax off energy bills that the EU forces the UK Govt. to impose for starters....that would be a definite reduction unlike your comment which is totally and utterly conjecture :)
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22/12/2020 19:02:22 5 32
bbc
The £20 billion we are saving each year to be part of a 'free' market will more than make up for the tariffs applied. There is a big world out there. The world is not just the EU.
558
22/12/2020 19:19:29 4 22
bbc
Wine and horrible Eu soft cheese is not essential.
980
22/12/2020 20:09:37 5 6
bbc
An MP's salary is not large, particularly by London standards. There are plenty of jobs which pay more.
22/12/2020 20:51:25 2 4
bbc
So why do French Farmers say food in Brexit UK will be cheaper and they wanted a hard border in NI to keep that cheap food out of the EU?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/brexit-a-threat-to-franco-irish-alliance-1.3117045
22/12/2020 21:40:05 1 0
bbc
Oh dear Phoenix, if you could get a worthwhile job that pays £70K P A you would take it wouldn’t you. Pity is nobody is going to vote for you are they.
An M P works very hard, sometimes 70+ hours a week without a Union to get them overtime at double rates.
They do it for love of their country.
Who are you working for? The Kremlin?
22/12/2020 21:53:31 1 0
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Yet another failure who has no idea what an MP gets paid. Why not stand as a candidate if it's that lucrative?
22/12/2020 22:01:44 0 0
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We already trade on WTO terms with numerous countries, then they do a deal. The deal is between equals .
23/12/2020 09:52:05 0 0
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Moggie said we should see some benefits in 50 years. Which is why he moved his business to Dublin.
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22/12/2020 18:21:13 28 26
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Au Revoir EU... it’s not been nice knowing you. !!
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22/12/2020 18:25:11 9 7
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We left the EU a year ago - you're a bit late saying goodbye.
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22/12/2020 18:17:23 142 77
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Yeah, just because we import £35bn from the EU each year, stuff 'em, because we export ....errr... £15bn back....
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22/12/2020 18:25:15 42 1
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Where did you get your figures from. If you want to contribute, get your facts right.
In 2019, UK exports to the EU were £294 billion (43% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £374 billion (52% of all UK imports) Statistics on UK-EU trade - House of Commons Library
22/12/2020 21:25:12 0 0
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And we had a trade surplus BEFORE we joined the common market
CDB
23/12/2020 01:00:33 0 0
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Just wait until we have to pay the tariffs on all that £374 billion, Guess where the tariff payments go ?
23/12/2020 01:13:47 0 0
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Let me get this straight: you pay for the privilege of a trade deficit?
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22/12/2020 18:21:52 15 18
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So after all the hot air coming from Boris, he has accepted the deal the EU offered.

In the EU we helped guide the direction of this extraordinary powerful block, outside we are a small fish.

We have not even managed to get access for the City if London. Now everyone can see what a bad idea brexit was. We have literally ruined this country!
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22/12/2020 18:25:20 4 3
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No ...making it up again
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22/12/2020 18:25:25 12 10
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why did or do E U want to do any deals with a country who want to scarper , desert ship , resign from club , exit the board ???
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22/12/2020 18:28:24 7 5
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Because they feel sorry for the Brexit supporting snowflakes hanging on mummy's apron strings in case someone says BOO to them.
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22/12/2020 18:29:53 0 1
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Because the UK vies with the USA as the single largest customer of the EU?
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22/12/2020 18:45:31 0 1
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EU sycophants are a national embarrassment.
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22/12/2020 18:25:26 2 6
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It is pretty obvious now that no deal will be done,in any case there is no time for any that was done to be ratified by the 27 and it must be ratified by all never mind trying to get a deal past the ERG. This will mean that in the best case scenario the queues in Kent will be a regular thing and at worst no imports from the EU or even the US at all
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22/12/2020 18:30:34 0 1
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You forgot to mention that we'd have to eat the kids (after previously fattening them up on gravel and soil).
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22/12/2020 18:15:15 32 26
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BARNIER KNOWS THE GAME IS UP

EU IS FINISHED

NO WAY WILL THE GERMANS AND FRENCH PROP UP THIS LOT

Luxembourg
Romania
Moldova
Lithuania
Portugal
Spain
Italy
Poland
Hungary
Croatia
Czech Republic

AND GREECE
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22/12/2020 18:25:27 1 3
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Stop shouting at the screen ??
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22/12/2020 18:21:51 330 421
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Time to look forwards, not forever harking backwards in a petulant attempt to prove yourself right. This has been the issue with a lot of the remoaners, unable to accept others opinions and votes.
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22/12/2020 18:25:29 66 6
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So you think we were lied to.
If we do not learn from the past we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes again.
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22/12/2020 18:18:43 7 13
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As I said before, surely the only fisheries agreement that the UK can accept has to be the 'status quo ante', i.e who fished where and when in UK waters before we joined the EU in 1973. If it was OK for certain foreign fishermen to catch fish in UK waters then, it is surely OK now.
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22/12/2020 18:25:31 0 1
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We sold most of our fishing rights so this wouldn't be possible.
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22/12/2020 18:15:15 32 26
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BARNIER KNOWS THE GAME IS UP

EU IS FINISHED

NO WAY WILL THE GERMANS AND FRENCH PROP UP THIS LOT

Luxembourg
Romania
Moldova
Lithuania
Portugal
Spain
Italy
Poland
Hungary
Croatia
Czech Republic

AND GREECE
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22/12/2020 18:25:34 4 7
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You read the wrong papers mate, the EU has never been more popular, or stronger.
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22/12/2020 18:25:36 214 22
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This is it, the final push

No, really, it is the final final push this time

Ok, this really is the final final final push, for real

If no deal is so good, why are we still pushing for a deal?
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22/12/2020 18:30:46 133 10
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This is the Extended Final Ultimate Director's Cut of the Finally Climactic Collector's Edition of the Final Push.
22/12/2020 20:13:04 2 5
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The EU are also pushing for a deal, or did you think it was all coming from our side?
R
22/12/2020 20:28:33 14 1
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its not the final anything -its widely agreed it will take 10 years just to get the UK back to baseline trade & regulatory agreements that it threw away pursuing a non-existent English nationalist wet dream
brexit will continue to fester like an oozing boil for year splitting up the UK & making us much worse off while brexiteers will continue blaming the nasty EU for all their self inflicted woes
22/12/2020 21:05:03 0 5
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We aren't , the Germans are according to the French and Euronews.
22/12/2020 23:18:35 0 4
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its called negotiation at a level much higher than you will ever understand
22/12/2020 23:33:12 2 0
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Because a deal is still better than no deal....
22/12/2020 23:44:44 5 0
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Is it because the Clown and his cabinet are bare faced stupid liars per chance?
Removed
23/12/2020 09:33:19 0 0
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Not sure we are really - there in lies the rub and the politics and dynamics of negotiation. This has been lost on the press too. I am very glad Theresa May is not negotiating - we might have offered the EU Kent as a reward! Who really knows?