Brexit: Johnson resists calls to extend transition into 2021
22/12/2020 | news | politics | 8,878
Boris Johnson says his position is "unchanged", as time for the UK and EU to reach a deal runs short.
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Em
21/12/2020 10:33:12 24 61
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Michel Barnier hs lost all credibility. More of a clown than a negotiator.
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21/12/2020 10:36:07 39 19
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Michel Barnier is doing a great job defending the rights of EU Citizens. Especially when the other side is behaving like they’re a chimp’s tea party
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21/12/2020 10:43:01 8 5
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If Barnier is a clown, we run out of synonyms for greater idiocy to describe the British negotiating team, or rather, their political masters.
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21/12/2020 12:02:48 5 4
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Barrier, AKA Macron
22/12/2020 10:17:22 0 0
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Presumably you were at the negotiating table. You talk absolute rubbish of course. Where do you get your micky mouse information from?
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21/12/2020 10:33:44 19 29
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Ed Davey how long do we need its been 4 years and we are nowhere.

Leave NOW
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21/12/2020 10:37:41 29 11
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That’s what happens when you vote incompetent people to deliver something stupid
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21/12/2020 10:41:23 3 2
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We have, or hadn't you noticed. What is desperately tried is to minimise the damage caused by gullible people.
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21/12/2020 10:43:35 3 0
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We left nearly 12 month ago.
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21/12/2020 10:34:17 682 152
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Brexit going well, I see,
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21/12/2020 10:40:15 669 118
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Waiting to see how the Daily Express can sell the North Korean style trade arrangement.
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PCS
21/12/2020 10:46:01 43 8
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For the love of whatever god ones believes in, EXTEND THE TRANSITIONS PERIOD.....Xmas / New Year has been ruined give this failing country something to hope for!
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21/12/2020 10:47:45 11 79
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It's going very well, we leave in a few days. Finally!
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21/12/2020 11:11:48 3 26
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Unsuccessful attempt to be sarcastic. Yawn.
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21/12/2020 11:17:37 55 6
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Here we go again: no pasta, no flour, no olive oil and wiping my backside with coffee filters. I can't see my family during the "free for all" period that Boris promised the nation. My job's in jeopardy and two more food banks have just opened up in my town.
But I'm sure that a WTO brexit will sort it all out. Those sunlit uplands are just around the corner!

#HowTheBritsMuggedThemselves
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21/12/2020 11:56:30 14 4
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To all the ‘no dealers’ and little englanders, maybe as you queue with other panic buyers it may dawn on you that your small island isn’t so self sufficient after all. Not even 12 hours into hauliers not able to cross over to France and panic over food shortages sets in.
21/12/2020 14:14:25 3 1
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Yes, oven-ready.
Pat
21/12/2020 14:32:39 0 4
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yep roll on Jan 1st 2021
21/12/2020 15:41:51 3 1
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Straight down the drain
21/12/2020 17:34:42 1 0
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So good to see everyone getting behind the country /government instead of being cowed into submission Londoners of old must be really proud of you all
21/12/2020 20:32:27 0 0
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It will starting next year.
21/12/2020 20:46:59 0 0
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A deal has already been done, why else remove the threat to break the terms of the existing withdrawal agreement?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/54088596

All we are seeing now is a phoney war to make Bozo and the Tories look good, when in reality they will be backing down big time!
21/12/2020 22:05:13 0 0
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Europe didn't offer an oven ready deal
22/12/2020 00:19:11 0 0
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Well we left on Jan 31st, so yes it happened. We leave transition on 31st Dec 2020 midnight. What is your point?
22/12/2020 05:10:02 0 0
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Yes 60 trade deals so far that many of you on here said couldnt be done so quickly and about to sign 100 billion deal with India....
22/12/2020 10:29:16 0 0
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Brexit would have gone a whole lot better had the remain side accepted the result of the referendum and got behind making it work instead of constantly trying to stop and de-rail the inevitable.
22/12/2020 11:44:31 0 0
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Well as long as there is no deal it will be perfect, we will be out, we will be free of their interference, we will indulge ourselves by charging a fortune on imports which will allow us to create new factories and industries to satisfy UK demand thus creating employment and wealth.
22/12/2020 15:20:14 0 0
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It is indeed, the level of rejoiner angst confirms it.
22/12/2020 16:30:20 0 0
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And all these folks calling for more time: Well, they can have ALL the time they want, the EU, all they have to do is apply to the WTO, and insist that Article 24 of the GATT Treaty is used with both the consent of the UK and the EU, they would have a minimum of two years with no tariffs and quotas during which a trade deal could be concluded. In fact I think someone mentioned it before ;)
22/12/2020 16:48:49 0 0
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Bang on schedule
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21/12/2020 10:34:20 11 26
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Oh another HYS on Brexit, so predictable. Yawn yawn. BBC stirring the pot but not allowing comments on the things that people want to actually comment on.
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21/12/2020 10:36:57 18 5
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These posts always seem to make you so tired. You are always typing yawn yawn.
You voted for it
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21/12/2020 10:40:14 3 0
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Like what for instance? And don't come up with some ridiculous conspiracy theory.
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21/12/2020 10:38:19 4 1
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I absolutely want to comment on the brexiclown destruction of my country.
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21/12/2020 10:42:11 1 0
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Comment away mate..... it only gets moderated off if someone is offended...
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21/12/2020 10:34:22 437 135
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And on and on and round and round it goes. The slow motion self destruction of the disunited kingdom. Just like the fall of Rome.
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21/12/2020 10:37:47 338 92
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Quite - not only does the division in the population as a whole run deep, i.e. nearly half didn't vote for it, two of the four "partners" in the Union rejected it.
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21/12/2020 10:37:12 9 0
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Except nowhere near as significant!
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21/12/2020 11:30:20 11 20
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Yawn.. yawn.. yawn.
21/12/2020 16:34:33 0 4
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The UK will thrive.
It'll be the EU that crumbles into nothingness.
21/12/2020 22:16:57 0 0
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Hey, that's a bit unfair on the Romans (in the west) they didn't vote for it! The eastern Roman empire kept going to 1453.
21/12/2020 22:39:20 0 0
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Don't fret so. You can always emigrate to Ireland and stay in the EU. It's not far.
Idiot Removed
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21/12/2020 10:34:32 5 7
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Not yet another "crucial" moment.
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21/12/2020 10:34:44 794 205
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Johnson you promised the country an oven ready deal. For once in your life keep your promise and put country before your squalid little career
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21/12/2020 10:38:26 332 281
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Unfortunately this is a two sided agreement so oven ready or not if the other side will not accept the oven ready deal then there will be no deal
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21/12/2020 10:36:39 26 8
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And your very squalid little party.
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21/12/2020 10:51:19 29 54
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You have strange view of this

EU offer a Canada Plus deal which is what Boris was refering to

Then the EU backed off from that and have been putting unacceptable proposals forwarded

Their game has always been keep putting pressure on the UK and they will concede

Well they have now found out it will not work - we will not roll over like Mother May did .

The ball is in their court
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21/12/2020 11:20:08 19 31
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Oven ready withdrawal deal. which was done over a year ago. the trade deal is entirely different.
510
21/12/2020 11:23:38 23 48
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Here we go again for the hundreth time. The phrase 'oven ready deal' refers to the Withdrawal Agreement, which was already drawn up and has been implemented. It never referred to the trade talks.

Although Remainers often claim to be better educated, they often don't know what they are talking about.
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PWG
21/12/2020 11:34:20 16 39
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Why do you perpetuate that lie? You know perfectly well as we all do that he was referring to the now complete exit deal.
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21/12/2020 11:51:00 9 19
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The oven ready deal was the deal to leave and we did. The trade deal is taking longer because the EU reneged on the Canada+ deal they offered us and have now added unreasonable demands that they have not endowed on any other nation they trade with. Blame the EU, not us for the problems. Do keep up
914
21/12/2020 12:05:59 1 1
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An oven ready deal would have been nice but not one over done and burnt which is useless
21/12/2020 12:49:55 1 6
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I assume you would hand over your first born to the unelected Eu cabal if it meant getting a trade deal, right?
21/12/2020 13:26:24 3 6
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The oven ready deal referred to the one in Parliament last December which allowed to leave the EU in January.He delivered all he promised.
21/12/2020 15:06:20 0 0
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Maybe the oven-ready deal doesn't fit in the oven. One side measuring in inches and the other in centimetres perhaps. Or maybe Boris just isn't very good at measuring...
21/12/2020 15:28:48 2 3
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The oven deal was nothing to do with trade.
21/12/2020 15:31:15 2 1
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The thing about Johnson is that he has never met a promise that he couldn't break.
21/12/2020 15:42:55 1 1
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Don't tell me you believed all his lies he only needs to open his mouth to lie
21/12/2020 16:04:11 0 1
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> Johnson you promised the country an oven ready deal.

But he also kept saying put it in the microwave.
21/12/2020 16:26:14 2 1
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The 'oven-ready' deal as referred to by Boris was the withdrawal deal not the trade deal. Not like remainers to twist facts!
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21/12/2020 10:35:04 704 333
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The sensible thing to do at this point is to extend the transition period.

Unfortunately, common sense is in short supply amongst Brexiteers.
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21/12/2020 10:49:11 395 93
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4 years not long enough to talk about fish? Common sense definitely in short supply.
Don't continue be be abusive and stupid... Removed
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21/12/2020 10:51:44 29 8
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While it may be sensible, it doesn't suit the "blame the EU for all the things" agenda of the largely non-dom owned press.

The naive were led by the unscrupulous in pursuit of an outcome that benefits few at the expense of many.
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bcl
21/12/2020 10:52:56 19 6
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It may seem sensible to most ordinary people but it would mean Ress Mogg and his rich friends make less profit from leaving so that would never happen.
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21/12/2020 10:57:55 22 12
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The SENSIBLE thing to do is to make a decision, even WTO rules and let business know definitively what they are dealing with because it's been the uncertainty NOT Brexit as a concept that has caused the harm. This is the common sense of a "Brexiteer" ... Happy Christmas you never-ending Remoaners!
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21/12/2020 11:20:42 17 11
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Of course, you Remainers are so much more intelligent, aren't you? You often tell us so.
21/12/2020 12:50:47 2 3
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Perhaps your the one with no common sense, have you thought about that ?
21/12/2020 12:55:52 8 4
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Would have all been done and dusted by now if the politicians hadn't tried to stop brexit for4 years, look what happened to them at the election. Get over it and doing something positive to mitigate whatever shortcomings with leaving the EU you foresee. That would be the common sense approach, unfortunately lacking in some re-moaners. See what I did there? funny eh?
21/12/2020 13:17:41 8 1
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All this does is give more argument time to negotiators who won't make any concessions. Maybe WTO regs for a few months might, just might, kick them out of their complacency, whichever side of the negotiationthey are on. Time to stop paying them for getting nowhere.
Spineless to the core grow a pair mr blair Removed
Pat
21/12/2020 14:33:46 3 2
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Why extend it Are you Mad
21/12/2020 14:44:51 3 2
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If "common sense" (which is always surprisingly uncommon) had applied anywhere in this debâcle, we'd never have had such a poorly organized, binary vote 4½ years ago in the first place.

(Might we not just as well continue with complete folly?)
21/12/2020 14:48:54 3 2
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The transition period is enshrined in Brexit dogma, surrounded by10 foot wall of concrete. These people are like the moonies, a religious cult. 1950s UK can be brought back, ruling the planet, close ties with white commonwealth, contempt for Johnny Foreigner, etc. But rejoice! They are a dying breed. Make no mistake - this brexit shambles will one day be gloriously reversed, before i die (age 71)
21/12/2020 15:28:47 4 2
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We will never get a fair deal from the EU (whilst we are still effectively in), what is the point of kicking the can down the road again.
21/12/2020 15:30:59 3 2
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Further extension......but why?
21/12/2020 15:39:24 4 2
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Give a 6 month extension, and we will just be in the same position in 6 months time.
21/12/2020 15:45:56 1 1
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I didn't know they had any
mjp
21/12/2020 16:27:54 2 1
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Boris, Gove and the ERG want no deal. They're getting what they want.

It may not be what the country as a whole wants, and it may not be what a lot of leave voters wanted, but as long as the politicians get what they want then all is well.

If only I was as wealthy as Ratcliffe. I'd then have the option of leaving the sinking ship.
21/12/2020 17:15:21 1 2
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I think you'll find it is the remain camp who have no common sense. In the minority and blinkered in that we should cancel the democratic outcome (having done their best to delay it, which caused untold damage to our economy).

It should be added that remainers on here have an abundance of hatred, intolerance and want for Britain to fail so they can feel they've been proven right.

So sad.
21/12/2020 17:57:15 3 2
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Common sense short supply amongst Tory's.
21/12/2020 20:47:20 0 0
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A deal has already been done, why else remove the threat to break the terms of the existing withdrawal agreement?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/54088596

All we are seeing now is a phoney war to make Bozo and the Tories look good, when in reality they will be backing down big time!
22/12/2020 08:38:20 0 0
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I don't think we can
22/12/2020 09:36:03 0 0
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Brexiteers will see a Happy New year and all the whining remainers can do one!
22/12/2020 12:55:58 0 0
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The sensible thing would be to cancel BREXIT or ask the people again. We know BREXITEERS won but on lies and opinion polls that said we would not leave and many just didn't vote - lazy b****s. Just like DT and see what happened this year- highest numbers voting ever to get rid of that clown
22/12/2020 15:40:05 0 0
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How long do you wish the transition period to be extended? There comes a point where we must simply follow through with Brexit, whether you agree with it or not. The uncertainty is what is causing many of the problems from an economic perspective. Extending the transition period further will only continue the uncertainty.
22/12/2020 15:55:54 0 0
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Sound common sense is with the Brexiteers, if covid lock-downs continue into the coming holiday season, Spain, Portugal and Italy to name but 3 are in even deeper trouble, maybe terminal and so the Eurozone is too. Better we are well clear.
22/12/2020 17:50:37 0 0
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Yeah - entend, extend, entend indefintely - the remainers last mantra.
You've lost your cancel option, so that's all you have.
It's been 4 years - extending would only postpone no agreement.
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21/12/2020 10:35:13 12 7
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Of course it more crucial - the UK is getting closer and closer to the edge of the cliff....
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21/12/2020 10:35:19 7 15
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I think the French have jumped the gun and closed the border early.
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21/12/2020 10:38:52 7 0
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It's what we should have done back in March, as well as preventing outgoing flights and forcibly quarantining returning travellers - plenty of empty hotels around!
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21/12/2020 10:39:03 1 0
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So it seems us most of the rest of the world.
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21/12/2020 10:43:12 1 1
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Get used to it. You're an insignificant little country with an overinflated sense of importance and now you've decided you don't want to work together with the grown up countries, you're going to be treated accordingly.
Enjoy your sovereignty over your rapid and messy decline and don't forget to say thank you to the ERG on the way to get your universal credit.
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21/12/2020 10:35:36 10 7
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I think we have bigger problems now unfortunately than brexit
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21/12/2020 10:39:17 5 2
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They are equally as big
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21/12/2020 10:42:15 1 1
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I'd not want to see it get ignored unless it can be put in a stable state. So if not an extension, then what?
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21/12/2020 10:50:03 1 1
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EU states considering deployment of military to evacuate their citizens from UK
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21/12/2020 10:35:38 5 4
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Do we throw back those fish that don't have a British passport ?
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21/12/2020 10:35:55 844 328
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Brexit has achieved nothing. No redeeming qualities, no positives, nothing good for the UK. Leaving the EU was never going to solve our problems, it’s just made them worse. At least extend the transition so we can secure a deal and limit some damage.
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21/12/2020 10:49:35 108 274
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To coin your phrase: "We haven't left yet".

All the turmoil over the past four years while IN the EU (or effectively in the EU during the latter transition period)
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21/12/2020 11:26:14 15 57
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Completely wrong on every count. Do you want to pay billions to the EU every year, in order to be told what we can do? I don't.

Remainers want to extend the talks for ever in the vain hope that somehow it will all be reversed.
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21/12/2020 11:31:26 24 5
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Surely being able to say to the turkeys who voted for Christmas at Nissan Sunderland and Airbus Wales that we told you so is a redeeming feature?
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21/12/2020 11:53:46 0 12
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Jean Luc wouldn't have capitulated as easy as his French ancestors.
21/12/2020 12:42:45 15 2
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40,000 criminals think it's a great idea as their records can't be accessed after Jan 1
21/12/2020 12:49:28 0 3
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NO NO NO
21/12/2020 13:19:01 1 4
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Achieved nothing because we haven't left yet doh
21/12/2020 13:48:54 3 5
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Membership achieved nothing except exporting factories. There would not be such big queues at Dover had we made goods ourselves. Even food processing has been exported.
21/12/2020 14:13:44 5 2
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Because everything is perfect in the EU
Like there cv19 aid bill they are all bickering about?
21/12/2020 14:32:05 2 3
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NO. If we keep on extending the deadline, the EU will never take us seriously and will continue to make unreasonable demands in regards to us leaving their crap little club. Leave on the 31/12/2020 and see what they do. If they are able to walk away with no deal, why are they still talking to us? They don’t want to do us any favours, maybe they are scared a no deal would wreck their economy.
21/12/2020 15:26:11 0 1
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missing the point, wake up
21/12/2020 15:46:26 0 0
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Wait and see - the view from 10 years ahead will look very different.
21/12/2020 15:50:22 2 2
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Except that we will not have to take however many refugees the EU decided was fair and will not have to pay the huge amounts of money to the EU to prop up their ailing economy that they decide would be fair.
21/12/2020 16:30:29 0 3
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Oh brilliant. Extend the transition and we can waste another year - be in no doubt the French would drag any transition out for at least that long - in pointless jabbering with the French. The we can have the same thing all over again, next December

What we need is another Wellington.
bob
21/12/2020 17:09:31 0 0
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No
21/12/2020 17:49:55 0 0
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BOJO doesn't care except for his own career.
21/12/2020 18:00:32 0 1
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Why do you think after 4 years extending the deadline will pull a rabbit out of the hat? The time has come to stop the uncertainty and leave deal or no deal we will cope but with constant uncertainty we can't. Extending is just wishful thinking from people who after 4 years still haven't accepted we are leaving.
21/12/2020 18:18:27 0 0
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Not giving it very long are you - we were in for 43 years - we have left less than a year ago....
21/12/2020 19:11:03 0 0
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Diddums! Poor you.
21/12/2020 19:57:11 0 0
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Unfortunately we have been lumbered with 3.5 million European citizens who claim benefits
21/12/2020 21:19:07 0 0
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In your opinion...... . Clearly negotiating is not your strong suit
21/12/2020 22:18:21 1 0
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We have been negotiating for 4 years. If we haven't got a deal in that time, there is literally no point ijt in kicking the can down the road any longer.
21/12/2020 22:48:10 0 0
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How’s the EU vaccine rollout going?
22/12/2020 05:11:07 1 0
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You mean the Eu that is in recession with Southern Europe with debt 150 to 192% of GDP..that success story?
22/12/2020 05:41:10 1 0
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So being the first country in the world to approve Covid 19 vaccine, while the EU dither and delay as usual, was a negative in your mind, was it?
22/12/2020 11:06:40 1 0
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The transition period cannot be extended legally. We are leaving and that is that.
22/12/2020 15:23:18 1 0
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Not true, ask the first German vaccinated about that, he was vaccinated in the UK because we don't follow EU rules, it cause such a stink in Germany & on the continent the EU have just 'rushed through' the licensing for the vaccine, seems Little England outside the EU is having more influence on it than when we were in it ;-)
22/12/2020 16:31:00 0 0
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And all these folks calling for more time: Well, they can have ALL the time they want, the EU, all they have to do is apply to the WTO, and insist that Article 24 of the GATT Treaty is used with both the consent of the UK and the EU, they would have a minimum of two years with no tariffs and quotas during which a trade deal could be concluded. In fact I think someone mentioned it before ;)
22/12/2020 17:02:04 0 0
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Try looking a bit further afield than next week. That's everybody's problem, only interested in the short term view. Yes we'll have a few years of difficulties but beyond that, in 10, 15, 20 years time we'll be in a far better position.

I'm not bothered about me and what happens now, I want a prosperous and successful country for my kids and grand kids. Brexit will achieve that just not overnight
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21/12/2020 10:36:03 48 23
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ports closed welcome to Brexit
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21/12/2020 10:46:37 21 23
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So you're blaming the consequences of the new COVID variant on Brexit?
21/12/2020 13:06:19 2 0
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And those who voted remain are the educated ones? ???????
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21/12/2020 10:36:06 12 4
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You can bet the farm on it that were will be yet more deadlines and extensions.
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Em
21/12/2020 10:33:12 24 61
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Michel Barnier hs lost all credibility. More of a clown than a negotiator.
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21/12/2020 10:36:07 39 19
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Michel Barnier is doing a great job defending the rights of EU Citizens. Especially when the other side is behaving like they’re a chimp’s tea party
21/12/2020 20:27:09 1 1
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No he hasn't done a great job. He has failed to get the EU a deal.
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21/12/2020 10:36:14 1156 371
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Brexit madness getting worse - Tory government is complete disaster
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21/12/2020 10:54:20 617 1226
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Brexit about to succeed. We leave soon. Finally.
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21/12/2020 11:11:11 15 80
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Yawn.
21/12/2020 14:04:54 1 1
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But they are better than the weak divided opposition
21/12/2020 14:20:11 1 2
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"Brexit madness getting worse - Tory government is complete disaster"

But still better than Labour - what was their mantra again ?

Oh, Yes ... we'll negotiate the best deal possible with the EU, and then vote against it.

You really couldn't make it up.
21/12/2020 14:34:26 0 0
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Yeah, sure. Cor Bin would have done much better wouldn't he lol? Or, maybe not. It is a good thing that many, many people saw through his promises of eternal youth, wealth and health lol
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21/12/2020 10:36:22 650 233
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As it stands ... on 1.1.2021 ... Boris has lost London

... the EU get the financial capital markets from London ... and we get fish ...

London will no longer be the financial capital of Europe

London can thank the toxic tory press for that ... it is the toxic tory press who control the mob and the mob elect MPs
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21/12/2020 10:45:00 586 156
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But that is Brexit in a nutshell. Rather take everybody over an ideological cliff, Boris should act in the countries interest and explain to voters, that yes we can leave, but it is not in our best interests to leave in a way that makes us poorer. Sadly Nationalist rhetoric whipped up by those who are so wealthy they don't need to work, bought into by those who no longer work.
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21/12/2020 11:39:07 17 40
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Not many people have tried to relate the financial services industry to fishing. Congratulations. The Remainer whingeing goes to a new level of originality.
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21/12/2020 12:10:45 33 8
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We won't even get the fish. We sell the majority of the catch to the EU. If there's no deal, we probably won't be able to sell it, which means over half our fishing industry will be wiped out.

For the UK, Brexit is a lose lose. What ever we do, we lose. But for parts of the EU, as you alluded to, it can be a big win. We didn't just shoot ourselves in the foot, we shot off both our legs!
21/12/2020 12:47:52 6 16
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You can't eat 'futures'...you can eat fish :-)
21/12/2020 12:59:37 8 23
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How do you know this, do you work in financial services. Assume you read the Guardian, toxic left wing press. The number of people posting comments on here as if their views are facts is laughable.
21/12/2020 13:30:15 3 6
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So your in finance yes you know nothing it's not even on the agenda fool its worth to much for them they are almost completely reliant on the city
21/12/2020 13:50:55 3 12
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London wasn’t bothered when the EU closed the Northern Factories.
No wonder the North voted Leave.
21/12/2020 14:18:57 1 8
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I don't think they do. The FT has run a series of articles recently that the deluge of jobs moving to the continent, despite the major cities there doing their best to seduce talent, has only been a trickle, less than 10% of the numbers forecasting the decimation of the square mile a couple of years ago. It appears that there a lot of reasons why London is still the place to do business.
21/12/2020 15:31:51 0 7
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The capital markets are not going to move to any country in the EU. The EU is totally screwed financially, they just lost their largest contributor and look like losing their number 1 customer.
21/12/2020 15:31:54 1 0
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We are selling fewer papers than ever.
21/12/2020 15:34:02 6 0
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London will never vote Tory again, that is for sure. I doubt the Tories will win a single seat in inner London at the next election, not even Westminster or Kensington.
21/12/2020 15:47:31 0 0
bbc
Not at all!
21/12/2020 15:48:36 0 1
bbc
As is stands... you don't accept a democratic vote
21/12/2020 16:27:26 0 2
bbc
I guess you're a Sun or Mirror man.
21/12/2020 16:54:55 0 1
bbc
Bring on Signapore on Thames

The EU's worst nightmare
bob
21/12/2020 17:12:26 0 2
bbc
London will continue to be the financial capital of Europe but we will also have the chance to rebuild the economies of Northern England, Scotland and Wales which have been decimated by EU membership with so many good jobs lost. Whether we will or not is up to us. Naysayers will only delay or defeat that effort.
21/12/2020 18:32:41 0 0
bbc
Is that citizen Wolfie Smith then?

"power to the People"
21/12/2020 19:19:32 0 0
bbc
He’s not only lost London but the North forever will be Red again after the next election
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stu
21/12/2020 10:36:30 12 31
bbc
still completely in support of Brexit, just like the other 51% of the country is
57
21/12/2020 10:40:35 5 6
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51% of the country have never been in support of Brexit - 4 years ago 51% of those voting were in support of it which is a much smaller percentage of the population, since then every poll has showed support for Brexit has declined
61
21/12/2020 10:41:25 1 1
bbc
The delusion is strong in this one
126
21/12/2020 10:47:02 0 1
bbc
The last official opinion poll (YouGov, Sept 2020) showed that only 39% of people were still in favour of Brexit. 50% thought that Brexit was the wrong decision, with 11% undecided.
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stu
21/12/2020 11:00:32 1 0
bbc
is there anything more amusing than winding up remoaners

not at the moment certainly

I honestly dont give a $h1t either way I just look forward to reading about other things in the news instead of covid and the boring boring EU

till then im just here to get on your nerves
20
21/12/2020 10:36:33 6 3
bbc
Tick tock, tick tock, bong, bong, etc

and then we start all over again

tick tock, tick tock....

The old saying, where there's a will, there's a way applies here but it takes both sides to be willing and that appears to be lacking.
259
21/12/2020 10:59:35 0 0
bbc
?? ?? And the clock, stopped, never to go again, when the............
21
21/12/2020 10:36:39 5 13
bbc
They negotiate, they fail, the leaders talk to each other.

After 4 years, just knock it on the head.

Break and let the healing begin
22
21/12/2020 10:36:39 6 7
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We're still operating travel to the EU. Just call Kent inflatables to make your booking. Group bookings our speciality.
23
21/12/2020 10:36:54 5 30
bbc
No thank EU.

Time to leave the failing EU empire for good.
76
21/12/2020 10:42:28 3 0
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There’s only one empire that’s failed. Emperor Johnson’s
21/12/2020 16:56:32 0 0
bbc
You mean like we did back in January?

Crawl back under your bridge....
24
21/12/2020 10:36:57 377 174
bbc
Just extend. Walking away now, with all that’s going on is immoral and deliberately putting Citizens of this country in danger.
204
21/12/2020 10:53:49 176 98
bbc
4 years not long enough? lol
293
21/12/2020 11:02:00 8 22
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Grow up!
641
21/12/2020 11:36:48 9 2
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Unfortunately the deadline for the UK to request an extension expired last July. Due to the Corona crisis the EU offered an extension before that time but the Johnson government rejected the offer. In the meantime both sides have missed substantial negotiating time due to the need to self-isolate. In the worst case, the current travel restrictions may only be a foretaste of what is to come.
681
21/12/2020 11:41:23 5 0
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But it's what the <52% voted for!
694
21/12/2020 11:43:27 8 7
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I disagree on nearly everything with Nicola Sturgeon - I am a unionist - but she's right on this. The negotiaion should go on until we reach agreement.
943
21/12/2020 12:09:20 4 4
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You are not a citizen. You are a subject of the Crown. (Who was unelected, by the way.)
21/12/2020 12:54:06 1 3
bbc
Your comments made me smile. Over the top is the polite way of putting it.
21/12/2020 12:59:50 4 0
bbc
We won't suddenly stop talking to the EU after 1st Jan, discussions will go on, and eventually a deal will probably be made. Whether that means 100% of trade will be tarrif free or only certain products will be, we'll have to wait and see.

We may have to endure a period of WTO regulations, but that won't be the end of everything.
21/12/2020 14:15:07 0 3
bbc
Agree walk away. This us bullying from EU etc
21/12/2020 14:24:01 0 0
bbc
Oh no! Are we facing an armed invasion again?
21/12/2020 15:26:25 0 0
bbc
No 'citizens' in the UK. We're 'subjects'.
21/12/2020 15:37:01 1 1
bbc
We are leaving.
21/12/2020 17:07:19 0 1
bbc
bojo cant walk away now he hasnt got the guts
4
21/12/2020 10:34:20 11 26
bbc
Oh another HYS on Brexit, so predictable. Yawn yawn. BBC stirring the pot but not allowing comments on the things that people want to actually comment on.
25
21/12/2020 10:36:57 18 5
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These posts always seem to make you so tired. You are always typing yawn yawn.
You voted for it
26
21/12/2020 10:37:03 1664 422
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Regardless what you voted for with Brexit we have all been let down by the politicians we elected. All that they have achieved is polarised opinion and divided a nation. The likes of Johnson et al are an absolute disgrace.
118
21/12/2020 10:46:10 801 94
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Divide and rule. One of the oldest tricks in the book
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21/12/2020 10:49:41 57 120
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At least we have elected them.....
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21/12/2020 10:52:18 97 198
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The unwillingness to accept the democratic referendum divided the nation in to those who respect democracy and those who don't. Nothing to do with Johnson et al.
220
21/12/2020 10:55:13 86 189
bbc
I think the government is doing a great job under extraordinary circumstances (C-19)that would challenge ANY government throughout history. Remoaners keep on moaning though; that never changes ...
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21/12/2020 10:55:51 72 157
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More to the point we have been let down by the ones we DIDN'T elect, namely:

Mr. Barnier

-bogbrush-
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21/12/2020 11:00:16 69 99
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Yes, we have been let down - but not just by the politicians of all flavours we elected. The EU has to share it's part in the responsibility for the debacle this has become, and both sides have polarised opinion and divided a nation.

It takes two to tango, and trying to blame one side or the other alone is to ignore the reality, I'm afraid.
328
21/12/2020 10:59:56 52 90
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And Corbyn would have done a great job eh? Hilarious.
357
21/12/2020 11:08:01 80 10
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I'm afraid this was always going to be the case. 48% of voters were disappointed by the result and 52 % of voters are now disappointed by the outcome. Lose-Lose all round
382
21/12/2020 11:10:51 19 36
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The nation was already polarised hence the result of the referendum in 2016. It just wasn’t polarised in the minds of remain voters, Dreadful misread by Cameron and the EU. Boris is not to blame we all are for ignoring a wider view.
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21/12/2020 11:10:57 28 69
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The polarisation of opinion has existed since Remainers in Parliament tried to overturn the result of the referendum in the period 2017-2019.

Ironically, if they had not done this we would have had a much softer Brexit under Theresa May, but Remainer attempts to block Brexit led to a backlash, and the election of the hardline Johnson government. Remainers themselves produced the hard Brexit.
520
21/12/2020 11:24:26 10 12
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Steady on there with the 'politicians we elected' I for one did no such thing. You don't like what's happening, boo hoo. Now sing me another song
554
21/12/2020 11:28:20 19 7
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I don't accept that - voting leave was rolling the dice. We had a 5 in hand whilst we were in the EU; the most we could possibly roll to mitigate Brexit was a 4; those who voted leave cannot complain if we end up rolling a 1. To put your trust in politicians to put prosperity ahead of principle is supremely naive!
Johnson is not even capable of being a Clown in a Circus and the morons who voted him as leader are no better Removed
684
21/12/2020 11:41:31 6 24
bbc
You are obviously a lefty remainer that has limited understanding of the situation. If you like the EU so much, go and live there. Nobody will miss you.
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PWG
21/12/2020 11:44:11 3 15
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If you want unity get with the program. You sound like Donald Trump. He seems unaware that he lost the vote too. Loved the "et al" though. Though it occurs to me that it is Labour that are the disgrace, Corbyn did not back remain because he hated being on the same side as Cameron and then they focused on getting power rather than a good deal. Can Starmer be charged with treason?
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Jon
21/12/2020 10:37:05 304 109
bbc
We'll get an early taste of Brexit before Christmas. With the EU closing the border with us for two days meaning no trade, this will show us what the norm after Brexit will be.
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21/12/2020 10:48:57 155 294
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Not an early taste of Brexit (silly comment) without Brexit this would happen anyway its a pandemic. And without a pandemic a few weeks of disruption as process change anyone that does not get that is an idiot.
212
21/12/2020 10:54:44 6 24
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project fear, lol
628
21/12/2020 11:35:58 9 21
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Like you , I am a hardline Remainer and I desperately hope that everything will go wrong. I would be gutted if things work out well. Let's hope for an asteroid strike, which I will also blame on Brexit.
21/12/2020 12:36:16 3 4
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I'm not sure the EU want to shut the border permanently, given they still want a deal, but hey, if it fills your anti-leave sentiment.
21/12/2020 14:16:12 1 5
bbc
Say what you like EU are bullying us into a deal. All along
Pat
21/12/2020 14:43:33 0 3
bbc
The border is closed but they keep sending their product Is that the example you mean
21/12/2020 16:02:26 2 3
bbc
no it won't, life will go on
22/12/2020 16:08:42 0 0
bbc
Shows us what covid is going to do the Europe, the 50% increase in trade traffice prior to the French Covid closure shows you what Brexit can do, in fact also the EU 'speeding up the vaccine licence' responding to all the EU citizens complaints as to why the UK was vaccinating Germans with a German vaccine and the EU was stopping Germany doing so. - Little England - big influence, now we've left!
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21/12/2020 10:37:10 10 20
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Locking the Borders against the new COVID strain coming into the EU from England is just the start. Be sure. The EU are going to find lots of ways to punishing the UK for wanting to leave. We can't trust the EU. We need to find new ways to get goods into the UK. We can't rely on the DOVER to CALAIS crossing.
48
21/12/2020 10:39:50 8 0
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It is not just the EU. Countries world wide are stopping UK travel. Much wider issue than brexit in play here.
87
21/12/2020 10:43:19 0 0
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Is it opposites day where you live?
97
21/12/2020 10:43:58 0 0
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And your suggestion is???
187
21/12/2020 10:52:12 0 0
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Great! What’s your plan?
29
21/12/2020 10:37:21 2 2
bbc
What a waste of time and energy, time better spent doing the covid-infected Christmas shopping
186
21/12/2020 10:52:11 0 0
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I agree. Shopping and getting the turkey and trimmings ready for Christmas Day are far more important. Brexit negotiations can wait. Or let's just agree to disagree!
30
21/12/2020 10:37:22 5 23
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The borders are closed now for lorries forno real reason (IMO as a political gesture) so we may as well just leave now. Extending is not an option.
69
21/12/2020 10:41:58 2 0
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we have already left
99
21/12/2020 10:44:01 0 0
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Absolutely, lorry drivers live relatively solitary lives. This is a pure knee jerk reaction which ironically is actually punishing EU drivers and firms, far better to let them in and require them to self isolate when back home. oh and this virus variant is already present in most EU countries already including France!
178
21/12/2020 10:51:39 0 0
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You’ve heard of the Kent mutation? The virulent strain of Coronavirus?
31
21/12/2020 10:37:30 1226 340
bbc
It was sadly predictable that after all the difficult, technical trade points were resolved, the agreement would become stuck on fish.

Fish that British people don't want to eat, from quotas willingly sold to EU boats and where the main market is, ironically, in the EU.

It is madness that nationalist hubrist is preventing the deal from being done.
79
21/12/2020 10:42:52 803 236
bbc
And for the sake of 0.2% of our GDP the rest will undoubtedly suffer.
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21/12/2020 10:53:18 56 98
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I think you'll find the the EU are making a big deal over fish, not the UK. Try reading the article.
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21/12/2020 10:54:50 51 12
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The lack of concern for sustainable fishery management from both sides is alarming here. The dutch especially have 100 metre long ships plundering the ocean and killing seals and other marine mammals in the process. Surely even the most ardent remainer can see managing this areas in an environmentally minded way is a positive?
218
21/12/2020 10:55:02 105 31
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The UK wants to ban EU from fishing in UK waters but retain the same access to EU markets for British fish.

In other words, we want to have our hake and eat it.
417
21/12/2020 11:14:13 8 10
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Yes, those dastardly French!
437
21/12/2020 11:15:35 31 40
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It is madness to give our fishing grounds away for another 10 years.
588
21/12/2020 11:31:54 13 15
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Chill, there's loads of time yet. They'll do a deal. Agreeing this early is way too soon.
716
21/12/2020 11:45:46 13 24
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It's about sovereignty not fish. We say who fishes in our waters and how much they can have. You obviously want to remain an EU slave.
732
21/12/2020 11:47:42 11 18
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I don't see the EU giving us continued access to things they owned before we joined. A bit like us demanding free access to French vineyards and then throwing a tantrum when they say no, like Macron is. It's nothing to do with 'nationalist hubris' when someone is trying to rob you. I guess we should have let Hitler invade Poland and do nothing for the same reason.
841
21/12/2020 11:58:34 7 18
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The division of the 200 mile limit between coastal states is part of International law. The EU wants to ignore the law and enforce perpetual access to our waters and decimate the fish stock by their grab it all fishing.

Bad ecologically and against International rules.

Yet they complain about our INTERNAL Markets Bill
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21/12/2020 12:13:07 3 8
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well then lets go over to the champagne region of France and start growing our own grapes we can bottle it and name it champagne, I am sure the French wont mind us doing this as its only a small part of their GDP
21/12/2020 12:07:37 2 0
bbc
Are the fish still allowed to swim across the border?
21/12/2020 12:44:55 2 4
bbc
... 'sold' ... get it right. The EU paid compensation to boat owners and ordered them to destroy their own boats as part of the traitor Heath's deal to get in to the Euro club ...
21/12/2020 12:47:36 6 2
bbc
Name one country that hands over control of a natural resource to an unelected foreign cabal.
21/12/2020 12:47:40 1 2
bbc
Sorry, but you are completely missing the point.
21/12/2020 12:48:37 5 3
bbc
And the people who will suffer most are the fishermen. There is little or no point in catching fish, for which you have no market. The UK fish market is already largely supplied by cheap cod imported from Iceland, etc. There is little prospect of the British public being educated to eat the fish species that are currently sold to the EU. Fishing for leave have truly shot fishermen in the foot
21/12/2020 13:23:58 1 1
bbc
You obviously no nothing about Edward Edward heath how he lived to us people ie absolute silence over fish and food prices which as we joined are you old enough to remember beef and wine mountains I doubt you've even left school
21/12/2020 13:32:08 7 0
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Even fishermen, who clamoured so loudly to leave the EU, are belatedly realising what a catastrophic mistake Brexit has been. Last week's Sunday Times had a story about Scottish fishermen hoping to reregister their boats in Northern Ireland, to benefit from continued easier access to EU markets, as if the were NI vessels.
21/12/2020 13:39:23 0 1
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bet you any money that 'fish' is just a cover and the REAL issue is the 'Level Playing Field' that the EU insist we sign up to, which would effectively make the UK an EU Vassal State in all but name due to the vast amounts of EU legislation we'd have to sign up to accept
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21/12/2020 10:37:39 10 10
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Ports chaos from Covid + No Deal Brexit = chaos and panic buying of food.

Glad I already stocked up.
96
21/12/2020 10:43:53 2 2
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I agree, I think if you are not stockpiling at the moment you are very naive.
2
21/12/2020 10:33:44 19 29
bbc
Ed Davey how long do we need its been 4 years and we are nowhere.

Leave NOW
33
21/12/2020 10:37:41 29 11
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That’s what happens when you vote incompetent people to deliver something stupid
5
21/12/2020 10:34:22 437 135
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And on and on and round and round it goes. The slow motion self destruction of the disunited kingdom. Just like the fall of Rome.
34
21/12/2020 10:37:47 338 92
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Quite - not only does the division in the population as a whole run deep, i.e. nearly half didn't vote for it, two of the four "partners" in the Union rejected it.
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21/12/2020 10:44:31 29 8
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Technically fewer than half voted FOR it - just that even fewer voted against.

Turnout was 72% so 28% did not give a toss...... they might do now...!
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Em
21/12/2020 10:53:15 20 25
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Superseded by the General Election which gave the Government a massive majority on the promises of leaving the EU, deal or no deal.
568
21/12/2020 11:29:53 28 5
bbc
Exactly. But the empty drum of the English nationalists have the loudest noise.
577
21/12/2020 11:30:58 11 14
bbc
So we should have gone along with the losing side in 2016?
640
21/12/2020 11:36:36 27 8
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"i.e. nearly half didn't vote for it"

Actually, 63% of voters... *didn't* vote for Brexit, even those who didn't vote will be looking for someone to blame.

Leave voters are very much in the minority on this one.
741
21/12/2020 11:48:48 10 3
bbc
And only 25% now support it.
SCJ
21/12/2020 13:45:01 5 0
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Two out of three didn't vote for it - just under 37% of the electorate voted to leave. 35% voted to remain and 28% didn't vote. And that's without the 3m or so who were disenfranchised
Pat
21/12/2020 14:36:32 1 4
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It was a UK vote and scotland and NI are a minority so stop making up stats that suit your negative argument. Over half voted for it
21/12/2020 14:47:11 0 3
bbc
It was a UK wide vote, totalled across the whole nation, regional variations are irrelevant.
21/12/2020 15:46:16 3 0
bbc
It wasn't "nearly half" the electorate who didn't vote to leave; 62% of the electorate didn't vote for it if you include those who abstained. Only 37% of the electorate actually voted to leave. We left the EU on a mandate from just over one-third of the adult population. Respect the democratic decision? How about respecting the views of the 62% who did not endorse this madness.
21/12/2020 15:52:49 1 3
bbc
Nearly half didn't vote for it? Translation, more than half did. Majority wins.
21/12/2020 17:04:30 0 1
bbc
So says someone who voted remain. I some how doubt you would be saying the same thing if remain had got over the line even by a single vote.
21/12/2020 18:08:46 0 0
bbc
65% of the UK electorate did not vote to remain in the EU at a referendum. Further at the last General Election the incumbent governing political party increased its parliamentary majority. There were no divisions in so called 'partners' because both the referendum and General Election were placed before the entire UK electorate.
21/12/2020 21:39:48 0 1
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But more voted for Brexit than didn't and are you really saying two members of the union with a population of just 7 million or so should be able to override the overwhelming democratic wish of a country (England) of over 55 million? Did you study democracy in North Korea? Perhaps you should return.
21/12/2020 23:01:25 0 0
bbc
Nearly half didn’t vote for it, but not quite, so your nearly was a minority, and we were a majority that’s what wins, dimwit
22/12/2020 00:15:15 0 0
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And what of those who did not vote at all?
22/12/2020 07:06:45 0 0
bbc
And while one of the partners who rejected it is getting a special deal (and rightly so), the other - Scotland - is getting shafted. No wonder more of us now support independence.
22/12/2020 08:21:02 0 0
bbc
London rejecetd it too.

It's been pointed out (but it seems to be overlooked now) that those regions which enjoyed the highest per capita spend voted remain. So the pampered minority were in favour and those who perceived no benefit from the EU thought why should they bother with it? ("Our lives are sh** and why should others get all the benefits?" sort of thing.
22/12/2020 12:01:25 0 0
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Correction 3 of the 5 rejected it Don't forget Gibraltar.
Poor little global britain
Screwed up by brexit and the bigots who support it
Removed
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21/12/2020 10:45:45 90 44
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Welcome to the subterranean playing field
115
21/12/2020 10:45:51 32 23
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Nothing changes on here I see just the same idiots spouting the same nonsense without any realization of the truth. Trade deals being done daily, the EU trade deal not being done because the EU don't what global Britain on their doorstep growing richer so wont do a deal unless we agree to give up sovereignty (knowing we wont) and come under the control of their courts.
Elitist snobbery from a posh toff, lol Removed
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21/12/2020 10:51:12 14 13
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Shows how much you know!!

Not very much!!
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21/12/2020 10:54:17 24 11
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We better include poor little German car industry, French wine growers, Spanish farmers et al. At a time when the world's economy is in a mess, both sides of the table appear to be happy to sacrifice the best interests of the people, in the the cause of brinkmanship.
Why is everyone who disagrees with you a bigot? I don’t consider that my ideas are necessarily better than anyone else's.
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21/12/2020 11:03:26 18 10
bbc
well, when travel resumes, you can leave
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21/12/2020 11:00:52 21 12
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Screwed by weak remainers shaking in their boots.
477
21/12/2020 11:19:32 17 16
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Dear Remainer bigot, if you think the UK is screwed up, there are other places to live. You might try poor little non-global Republic of reland.
551
21/12/2020 11:28:08 7 5
bbc
So says an obvious bigot from the remain camp!
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PWG
21/12/2020 11:31:39 7 3
bbc
You sound like Gordon Brown.
739
21/12/2020 11:48:27 7 3
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Someone is a bitter loser.
754
21/12/2020 11:50:30 5 3
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When are you leaving?
939
21/12/2020 12:08:36 6 2
bbc
By putting every Brexit voter in the same bracket you are nothing but a bigot yourself
21/12/2020 12:23:31 5 2
bbc
Yes, all bigots, from someone who'd no doubt be screaming at unjustified generalisation of any other demographic. So obsessed, you'd name your account as such.

Please step back from your social media feed algorithm and seek help,
21/12/2020 12:40:34 5 2
bbc
Exactly the sort of attitude that has stymied proper debate for years, not only do you belittle your own country but you are insulting and defamatory about anyone who disagrees with you. Well that went well for you didn't it, try debating these issues in a proper manner instead of your 'project fear'.
21/12/2020 12:48:19 4 2
bbc
Perhaps you are the Bigot.
MrT
21/12/2020 13:04:13 5 2
bbc
We live in a democracy, but your use of the word bigot suggests that you don't believe in democracy. So a bigot is anybody who does not share your view?
21/12/2020 13:19:21 3 2
bbc
I wonder who the bigot is?

Suspect the person calling everyone who voted for brexit is possibly the biggest bigot of all

People voted based on their beliefs - some were clearly racists; but many voted as they had been left behind by successive governments and saw brexit as an opportunity -wrongly?

Typical response to insult the person rather debate the issues that caused brexit

Democracy thou
21/12/2020 13:28:51 2 2
bbc
You still have time to leave and go live with your oh so fair and friendly and corrupt masters in Brussels.
21/12/2020 13:36:45 4 2
bbc
Sorry but this is called democracy and I really think that you should get used to and accept it or relocate to China, Russia or even North Korea and see how you like their systems.
21/12/2020 13:53:56 4 2
bbc
Typical bigoted left wing. Anyone who disagrees with them deserves abuse. I sadly voted Brexit as the EU Parliament has made an absolute mess of the economics of the Euro leaving the med and eastern European countries at a permanent disadvantage (cannot devalue their currency) so over time France and Germany only get richer. Watch it happen and let the people of those countries suffer for joining
21/12/2020 14:06:49 3 1
bbc
You'r most likely the biggest bigot, poor looser to boot.
21/12/2020 14:11:39 0 0
bbc
We'll be ok... fish and chips for all. Stop whinging.
21/12/2020 14:15:25 1 1
bbc
And I thought all the undemocratic remainers had fled this country by now
21/12/2020 14:34:51 1 1
bbc
Wow, you think all the people who voted Leave are bigots? I have many family and friends, some Leave, some Remain, and not one of them voted through bigotry, they all thought about it and made their choice.
21/12/2020 15:03:15 3 0
bbc
I was always lead to believe Remain were intelligent beings (well according to them anyway). And yet their contribution to the debate is generally is shouting 'Bigot' or 'Racist' then running away. A very odd group - years of sitting on nice middle class sofa 's and waddling along Waitrose cheese aisle have taken their toll.
21/12/2020 15:07:41 0 1
bbc
Little England.
Scotland unwilling to from the get go dragged out against the peoples will.
Jos
21/12/2020 15:10:32 1 0
bbc
Resorting to name calling. Ha!
21/12/2020 15:27:20 1 0
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This comment has been reported as breaking the rules.
21/12/2020 15:30:02 1 0
bbc
Same old bigoted argument against those who took our last chance in getting out of a corrupt undemocratic organisation. Bear with it - we expected upheaval but that won’t be as bad as the upheaval when everything goes kaput in Europe.
21/12/2020 16:03:52 0 0
bbc
I'm not a bigot. I support Brexit.
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21/12/2020 10:38:04 564 113
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The irony of lorries of OUR fish lined up at Dover because they can't get over to the continent where the majority of the customers are.
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21/12/2020 10:47:44 318 253
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But not due to Brexit or the lack of a trade deal.
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21/12/2020 10:50:22 12 16
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Cut out the middle man. EU should take the fish straight from disUK waters
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21/12/2020 10:57:31 16 41
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The fish and other food exports stuck in Dover can be given to the poor kids who don't even have a loaf of bread that Saint Marcus keeps bleating about. Watch them turn their noses up at it though as they prefer tucking in to McD's, multipacks of crisps and biscuits as usual
21/12/2020 12:54:51 4 2
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If there is no realistic prospect of fish reaching continental markets in good condition they will be left unsold on the fish markets in the UK. The UK fishing industry will be destroyed as the herring industry was destroyed post WW1 when they lost their markets in Russia and Germany. The sad thing is that fishermen were mislead into believing that the easiest trade deal in the world was available
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21/12/2020 14:13:46 0 0
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Send it back. We might need our fish fingers next week.
21/12/2020 14:44:40 1 0
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Whilst a lorry load of of Broccoli from Belgium lands here yesterday and gets stuck on it's way back to Belgium to fetch some more (5 live new this am).

- Yes trade with the EU is 'bemusing, Very Bemused'
21/12/2020 15:21:08 0 0
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Get it back, I said before..
21/12/2020 16:25:48 0 0
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Sure that China or Papua New Guinea may want a trade deal for these?
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21/12/2020 10:38:15 13 12
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.. Whoosh! .. and another deadline zooms by.

Can't help but think the mainland European countries wouldn't have been so quick to put the barriers up to traffic movement from the UK if we hadn't been so hard-headed about quitting Europe AND so intransigent about getting fishing sorted out.
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21/12/2020 10:41:52 3 0
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I seem to recall the UK was equally ready to restrict travel from EU countries earlier in the year when they started demanding quarantine for countries with higher covid than the UK.
Its not about politics - this is about virus control
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21/12/2020 10:44:00 1 1
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Makes no difference. It's simply that the UK government has made a complete pigs-ear of the pandemic control measures.
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21/12/2020 10:49:43 3 0
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Perhaps. But I think childish behaviour is mainly the domain of the British Tory delegation
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21/12/2020 10:34:44 794 205
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Johnson you promised the country an oven ready deal. For once in your life keep your promise and put country before your squalid little career
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21/12/2020 10:38:26 332 281
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Unfortunately this is a two sided agreement so oven ready or not if the other side will not accept the oven ready deal then there will be no deal
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21/12/2020 11:16:31 48 11
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You seem confused with the term oven ready. It means its ready to go with both sides, one side claiming such without the other already in a agreement means its not oven ready, its a lie.
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21/12/2020 11:17:59 50 6
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If it is not acceptable to the other side, then it wasn't an oven ready deal, was it? It's a wish list.
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21/12/2020 11:33:08 21 9
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Oven ready implies that it's already been negotiated otherwise only an idiot would say it was ready.
21/12/2020 12:41:41 3 1
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Those who understand trade deals know that what we wanted wouldn't be offered by the EU - it's just that we were presented with lies about the fantasy deal
21/12/2020 13:23:02 1 1
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The clue is in the title 'deal' A deal is a multi sided agreement. You can go to Tescos with an oven ready deal that you will only pay half your bill, see how you get on. The deal we all understand is that they charge you 'X' and we pay it. You can't say, next year I am going to save 50% on my shopping by paying half unilaterally!
21/12/2020 13:34:35 5 1
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Then it was not an agreement. It was an over-ready proposal. Which the other side would never accept. Therefore, what he said (and what you supported) was a lie.
21/12/2020 14:13:01 1 4
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No deal is fine by me. Dealing with some of the EU is like dealing with a group of drunks who forgot the question.
21/12/2020 14:25:18 0 1
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TheHonSec - johnson tried to rip it up. refuses to allow a response to UK dumping on europe. The current johnson is not the oven ready deal he talked about
Your point is fair EXCEPT its johnson not giving us what he promised
21/12/2020 14:44:04 0 1
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Not really. Your confusing "deal" with "proposal".
The former is done. They latter is for negotiation.
We were told it was a "deal" that means all but agreed!
21/12/2020 14:47:08 0 1
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Of course there will be a deal.
We will give in after having been starved for a year or two.
21/12/2020 14:48:01 3 2
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Once again, false information. The 'Oven Ready' deal was promised ONLY on the WA.
21/12/2020 15:29:47 1 1
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Lots of things go in the oven and are not done.
21/12/2020 15:42:13 1 1
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Oven ready implies it should have been a tick box exercise to get signed off!
21/12/2020 15:45:56 1 1
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Or more likely, it wasn't oven ready at all.

Complaining it's the EU's fault when BJ wants single market access without a level playing field is just deliberate misrepresentation.
21/12/2020 16:24:10 1 1
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Nonsense there was no oven ready deal-Boris Brext just says what you Brexiteers want to hear and magic makes it become truth (in your heads that is)
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Where is Farage ???
Traitors gate I hope.
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Is he on the gallows yet? Removed
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21/12/2020 10:50:55 8 29
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Dancing around with the rest of us. Saying, "I told you what the EU leaders were like, but you didn't listen".
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21/12/2020 10:57:13 27 1
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Playing pat-a-cake with cummings.
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21/12/2020 11:17:04 6 39
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Sat upon his throne like the king he is!

Single handedly took our glorious nation away from the tyrannical EU!

There'll be statues of him in years to come, songs will be sang, odes written.

And remoaners STILL crying in 2027.

(They'll still be in the UK though.........Won't move to Europe away from the country they hate so much.)
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21/12/2020 11:32:53 7 0
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Think he's busy sorting out Farage's Garage in Kent. Needed a bit earlier than thought. Still, nice to see him actually working for a change.
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21/12/2020 12:13:35 6 1
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Like to see him put in front of the Road Haulage Assoc. to explain what is going on.
21/12/2020 13:11:33 7 0
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In Miami living of his Eu pension.
21/12/2020 13:02:32 2 0
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21/12/2020 13:26:10 3 3
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Me too watching them hang Blair and major to start with
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21/12/2020 10:38:46 3 14
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These borders can be a bit flexible when it suits cant they?

The 4 freedoms just seem to evaporate when its expedient for Europe to do so.

Shows what hypocrites they are, and what feeble blowhards we have running the country. Its a continental omnishambles.
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21/12/2020 10:41:56 1 1
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Stupid prat! They must take action against the pandemic.
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21/12/2020 10:48:39 0 0
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So you are getting indignant about emergency measures designed to protect Europe from the virulent Kent plague?
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21/12/2020 10:35:19 7 15
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I think the French have jumped the gun and closed the border early.
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21/12/2020 10:38:52 7 0
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It's what we should have done back in March, as well as preventing outgoing flights and forcibly quarantining returning travellers - plenty of empty hotels around!
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21/12/2020 10:35:19 7 15
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I think the French have jumped the gun and closed the border early.
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21/12/2020 10:39:03 1 0
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So it seems us most of the rest of the world.
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21/12/2020 10:39:03 146 63
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We are already in a no deal scenario.

No doubt even the most deluded Brexiteer must come to the conclusion that preventing a few hundred illegals a week is not worth the hassle of having thousands of trucks queuing up.
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21/12/2020 10:43:11 159 29
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Brexit is probably going to make illegal immigration worse, rather than better. We have been relying on the French to secure our border from their side. They are going to be less inclined to do that and will probably be happy for all of those camps to empty across the channel.
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21/12/2020 11:33:00 4 12
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'Deluded Brexiteer'....yawn.
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21/12/2020 11:39:25 18 5
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"No doubt even the most deluded Brexiteer must come to the conclusion that preventing a few hundred illegals a week is not worth the hassle of having thousands of trucks queuing up."

It doesn't even do that, illegal immigrants will still come...

...but now we've given up the right to send them back to the "first safe country"!
21/12/2020 12:57:13 3 1
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... oh yes it is ...
21/12/2020 18:49:27 0 0
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Brexit is not a political movement, and certainly not an economic one. It is purely religious, steeped in puritanical zealotry and impervious to reason. Brexiteers have seen the light and no argument can be made to change their little minds.
22/12/2020 18:34:25 0 0
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Nope, because it was the 50% increase in trade traffic through Calais and Dover that caused the queue, then the Covid close down meant it stayed a queue - do keep up old bean ;-)
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21/12/2020 10:39:11 6 3
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Groundhog Day ??
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21/12/2020 10:43:47 1 0
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Wasn’t that yesterday?
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21/12/2020 10:35:36 10 7
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I think we have bigger problems now unfortunately than brexit
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21/12/2020 10:39:17 5 2
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They are equally as big
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21/12/2020 10:39:41 1534 161
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And I see that staunch Brexiteer, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, has decided to build his successor to the Land Rover Defender - the Ineos Grenadier – in France rather than Bridgend. And isn't he moving to Monaco? Nice to see such faith in the cause!
But at least the Kent mutation of the virus is rife in Bridgend, so swings and roundabouts! Removed
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21/12/2020 10:49:05 269 22
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He can't avoid tax as efficiently as a UK resident - and needs his products to access the larger markets without tariffs so will build his car plant inside the EU.

Ironic that so many of the few remaining car producing areas of the UK voted for Brexit, isn't it?
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21/12/2020 11:13:46 160 10
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I support Brexit, but I agree with you about turncoat Ratcliffe and also to some extent Dyson.
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21/12/2020 11:34:57 173 7
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As we will now find out to our cost only the super-rich can afford leave. I was anti-Vax but am now firmly anti-Dyson....
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21/12/2020 11:37:17 177 31
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Yeah but he understands business, unlike Brexiteers and "F**k business" Johnson.
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21/12/2020 11:38:00 223 8
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is it not time to remove the Sir from the start of his name? All those that supported brexit while ensuring their own companies and interests stayed in the EU should be stripped of any titles.
He's gone to live next door to that damous British whinger Lewis Hamilron, who has nothing to moan about. Removed
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21/12/2020 11:56:44 37 128
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How many times have you posted this, I’ve counted at least 100
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21/12/2020 12:05:04 40 220
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Sound business decision to build Grenadier in France, as he was able to buy a ready to go ex-Mercedes plant for a knock-down price. In his shoes I would do exactly the same and not waste money building a completely new plant in Wales (or elsewhere in UK). Re moving to Monaco I'd do that too if i could afford to. This has nothing to do with Brexit but is just sound business sense.
21/12/2020 12:41:20 32 0
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He is a disgrace.
21/12/2020 12:44:49 13 79
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Very selective comment to make. There are plenty of companies that plan to invest in in a dynamic UK, free from the chains of the EU.
21/12/2020 12:45:56 3 21
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His exit to monaco shows he has become more international in his outlook.
21/12/2020 13:11:57 13 25
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I see that shell and Unilever have set up their headquarters in the UK, and closed their headquarters in the Netherlands.
21/12/2020 13:20:25 10 41
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Thats because the Ford plant needed major investment to be retooled and Welsh Labour govt refusing to improve M4 bottleneck at Newport, the real reasons.
21/12/2020 13:22:50 3 14
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No understanding of the multinational / global concept!

Any idea of the Ineos group, scale and reach; how this venture compares?

None!
21/12/2020 13:25:11 40 3
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Similar story with Dyson. Farage doesn't seem to spend much time here anymore either. I expect Johnson will leave for warmer climes soon after he's kicked out of office. Rats do leave sinking ships.
Bob
21/12/2020 13:28:22 7 22
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Yes but in the main big business and especially the big banks were pro EU. The idea that the EU stands for the people and Brexit for big business is just a massive LIE
21/12/2020 13:28:41 24 1
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German Companies are bound by law to re-invest part of their profits into their companies. A lot of our companies are owned by multi millionaire Asset Stripers! It's time for change!!
21/12/2020 13:31:08 2 20
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Who cares.
21/12/2020 13:31:46 6 18
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to Petts Wood Dave The French are probably giving him a better financial inducement , whilst at the same time preventing the UK from similar actions .
21/12/2020 13:34:38 7 7
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what businessman with even half a brain is going to want to fork out to build a new factory from scratch when he can just walk into a vacant one already just about fully equipped and ready to go?
21/12/2020 13:35:36 7 2
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and we really need another off road vehicle for Chelsea mom's ?
21/12/2020 13:58:42 3 16
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Er, because he was offered a cut price plant by Mercedes with existing tooling and trained staff on site... This has nothing to do with Brexit.
Uzz
21/12/2020 14:02:01 2 2
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They have Diesel engines. Can’t sell them in the U.K. after 2030!
21/12/2020 14:02:42 0 1
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The future of personal transport is not the motor car.
21/12/2020 14:05:11 8 0
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Take his knighthood away , for treachery
21/12/2020 14:19:28 6 3
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Great let him build his out of date historical car in the eu, we can build modern up to date ones in the uk. I am sure the french will be flocking to the dealers to buy this out of date British icon. Just like they buy our steam locomotives, bi planes and sailing ships.
21/12/2020 14:36:42 3 5
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It's good news that Teeseide is being considered by Tesla. A great boost for the North east coupled with Nissans commitment to Sunderland while sadly have to close factories in Spain. Someone is always on the wrong end of decisions like this.
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21/12/2020 10:39:41 2 6
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Forget s*dding Brexit,we've got other things to worry about ATM without Barnier banging on about the cosy chat that will continue, free lunch an'all.The talks are now a joke,what do they talk about?
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21/12/2020 10:47:03 1 0
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No doubt you want everyone to forget Brexit. It must be embarrassing for you that you voted for it
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21/12/2020 10:37:10 10 20
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Locking the Borders against the new COVID strain coming into the EU from England is just the start. Be sure. The EU are going to find lots of ways to punishing the UK for wanting to leave. We can't trust the EU. We need to find new ways to get goods into the UK. We can't rely on the DOVER to CALAIS crossing.
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21/12/2020 10:39:50 8 0
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It is not just the EU. Countries world wide are stopping UK travel. Much wider issue than brexit in play here.
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21/12/2020 10:39:56 18 4
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We had about 50,000 comments on this last week, bitter mainly from both sides. I'm really going to lose it if every day until Xmas each step results in another opportunity to sow discord among us. We have enough problems with being isolated by Covid, let's try to be kind to each other and work together.
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21/12/2020 10:46:10 12 10
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Nope. Never working with Quitters. No chance I’m helping fix the mess they created. If this stresses you out, best you avoid HYS
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21/12/2020 10:51:31 2 4
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“We have enough problems with being isolated by Covid, let's try to be kind to each other and work together.”

I don’t suppose there is any chance of an apology for calling us traitors because we don’t hate immigrants?

Thought not

No co-operation

No loyalty, no compromise, no peace

You are only asking for them because you are scared now

Good
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21/12/2020 11:01:49 4 0
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100% agreed. Alas, there always seems to be an issue that polarizes opinion; covid - lock down or not lock down? Brexit - leave or stay? It appears it's never enough to disagree with someone, but one must hate the other for thinking differently...apparently that's the way to sway opinion.
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21/12/2020 10:40:08 5 13
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France already looking to lift ban on lorries within hours. Another non story from the BBC in their Project Fear campaign.
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21/12/2020 10:44:36 1 0
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The news says otherwise. As does most of the civilised world. Disunited Kingdom petri-dish is rightly being isolated
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21/12/2020 10:45:19 0 0
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Maybe so, but we really need to lose all the goodwill with nearest neighbours. Posturing needs to end and issues sorted:

1.) sign Brexit deal today.
2.) approve and rollout Oxford vaccine today.
3.) Christmas reinstated simply for relief for 1 day from all this.
4.) coalition government either starmer or give to lead. Don’t care which but at least they are calmer in the storm.
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21/12/2020 10:40:12 101 34
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Doing this now is economic suicide
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21/12/2020 10:43:21 55 8
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Its what they voted for (so they tell us).
22/12/2020 19:00:32 0 0
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No it isn't, covid lock-downs are economic suicide ,and Europe has been brilliant at them. The good news for the UK is, we won't have to chip in to bail out Southern Europe, and we can eat our fish, a BMW while iron rich, is lacking in carbohydrates and not good for the teeth ;-)
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21/12/2020 10:34:20 11 26
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Oh another HYS on Brexit, so predictable. Yawn yawn. BBC stirring the pot but not allowing comments on the things that people want to actually comment on.
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21/12/2020 10:40:14 3 0
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Like what for instance? And don't come up with some ridiculous conspiracy theory.
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21/12/2020 10:34:17 682 152
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Brexit going well, I see,
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21/12/2020 10:40:15 669 118
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Waiting to see how the Daily Express can sell the North Korean style trade arrangement.
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21/12/2020 11:12:24 2 22
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What do you mean by 'North Korean?'
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21/12/2020 12:05:17 2 14
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With a bit more clarity than the BBC and the Guardian probably
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21/12/2020 16:47:25 0 1
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They will try very hard and parade Boris as the UK saviour.
21/12/2020 20:36:01 0 0
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That will be a world beating trade deal. Even Trump has not managed that one. Boris could have Kim Jung Un as a consulatant.
21/12/2020 23:49:00 0 0
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Snide remarks don't win prize's, your man couldn't even stand up to Corbyn,the history man who can only quote,what year did Johnson say that,Just another loser
22/12/2020 11:51:53 0 0
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North Korea is a sovereign nation. Easy as that. we are up there with the greats. Kim Jung Johnson
22/12/2020 15:21:02 0 0
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LOL You are comparing the EU to North Korea? Wow, even us Brexiteers wouldn't go that far.
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21/12/2020 10:40:16 5 3
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The only way progress will be made will be for both sides to act in the best interests of their citizens as opposed to their own political status

Probity is needed at times like these and, alas, I cannot see that quality in anyone involved directly or in-directly in the negotiations
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21/12/2020 10:40:28 372 159
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Anyone with a brain cell would've extended transition until we had Covid under control! And that's where the plan fails!??
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21/12/2020 11:00:04 267 70
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Boris will get a trash deal and claim it's the best deal ever. He'll get a deal at any cost as he knows no deal is economic and political suicide.

Just like he did with his 'oven ready' deal before the general election that breaks up the UK by placing a trade border between N. Ireland and GB. May said no British PM would ever do it. Boris did.
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21/12/2020 11:25:26 19 5
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Anyone who cared about the UK would never have Brexited in the first place.
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21/12/2020 11:28:51 2 13
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Obviously, you have far more brain cells than the ordinary people who voted for Brexit.
21/12/2020 12:17:52 5 1
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Extending transmission would solve nothing - just prolong the agony - either we get a deal or we dont (I think we will) but there has been far too much procrastination( something the EU are particularly fond of)
21/12/2020 12:35:01 5 3
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Oh yes, because the EU has a history of agreeing terms of deals well before deadlines anyway...

Forget it, we've left and the 'deal or no deal' portion of the divorce ends this year.

Looks like we'll have to leave and negotiate again from a no deal basis. Oh well.
21/12/2020 12:56:03 1 4
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... covid has no influence on the Brexit negotiations. Perhaps the comfortable lefty cohort are really whinging about not being able to go skiing this time around. Ha ha ...
Pat
21/12/2020 14:44:07 1 2
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I have many brain cells and I wouldnt
21/12/2020 19:23:17 0 0
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You mentioned brain cell. That doesn’t apply to Boris and his cabinet. They seem to be lacking brain cells and common sense.
22/12/2020 16:05:48 0 0
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No they wouldn't because business demands certainty, so we leave and then we have certainty, and cheaper food than the EU according to French Farmers

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/french-farm-leader-ups-brexit-ante-with-hard-irish-border-call-1.3085229
22/12/2020 16:33:12 0 0
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And all these folks calling for more time: Well, they can have ALL the time they want, the EU, all they have to do is apply to the WTO, and insist that Article 24 of the GATT Treaty is used with both the consent of the UK and the EU, they would have a minimum of two years with no tariffs and quotas during which a trade deal could be concluded. In fact I think someone mentioned it before ;)
22/12/2020 17:55:42 0 0
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> Anyone with a brain cell would've extended transition
And everyone without a brain cell looks for any excuse to extend transition.
No point, It's been FOUR YEARS! Covid has been just one, so don't blame Covid.
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21/12/2020 10:40:30 319 80
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What terrible timing for talks when the UK is the pariah and "locked out" of Europe and the rest of the World because we have a UK strain of Covid that is now rampant and out of control. It simply gets worse by the day.
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21/12/2020 11:32:35 99 222
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'Pariah'...yawn.
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21/12/2020 11:42:57 15 1
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Roughly equivalent to our stance on international trade with one of the largest trading blocs in the world, and our apparent willingness to break international law when it suits us....
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21/12/2020 12:09:11 6 2
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They've got it too.
21/12/2020 14:10:38 8 2
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or EU Countries just had enough of our clown leader? we have....
21/12/2020 14:16:13 1 2
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Perhaps if the figures weren't regular found to be full of **** and under and over counted
21/12/2020 15:47:49 4 0
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Not forgetting the 13,000 cases in the Netherlands with 1/4 of our population...also Italy & Denmark have identified cases of the same strain
21/12/2020 15:55:06 1 1
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I thought it was China's virus.
21/12/2020 16:07:41 2 0
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As opposed to the Chinese version of Covid that is still rampant in many countries, and was originally imported to this island nation by someone other than Boris Johnson?
21/12/2020 20:06:39 0 0
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The Kentish covid.
22/12/2020 00:19:05 1 0
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But don't forget it is our Covid strain so it is world beating!
22/12/2020 08:07:33 0 0
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You forget to mention that Brits won't be able to travel to Europe after 31/12 because we will be a third tier country. All third tier countries with a high Covid incidence are banned from entering the EU and have been for most of 2020. I think there are only eight countries in the world that are allowed to travel to the EU. New Zealand being one.
22/12/2020 16:04:39 0 0
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The strain that even the BBC in its science section agrees is already across EUrope. Interesting it supposedly appeared in Dover/Kent, gateway to the UK from Europe, whatever happened that mutation in mink from Denmark? ;-)
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stu
21/12/2020 10:36:30 12 31
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still completely in support of Brexit, just like the other 51% of the country is
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21/12/2020 10:40:35 5 6
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51% of the country have never been in support of Brexit - 4 years ago 51% of those voting were in support of it which is a much smaller percentage of the population, since then every poll has showed support for Brexit has declined
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21/12/2020 10:49:36 2 0
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Why do remainers always assume that people who did not vote wanted to stay in the EU
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21/12/2020 10:40:54 27 11
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Good dress-rehearsal for No Deal Berxit ongoing now.... timely!
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21/12/2020 10:41:04 124 32
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The borders are closed, just leave it at that.

It's what the Brextremists wanted so they can't complain.
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21/12/2020 10:47:33 55 117
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Another stupid, mindless, ignorant reply. This has nowt to do with Brexit. Perhaps this strain of virus came from French exports, the free trade version arriving on our beaches everyday, or maybe, just maybe, it has nothing to do with any conspiracy theories.
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21/12/2020 10:49:20 4 18
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If they're closed for us then they are closed to them. The EU exporters will soon start to moan and will protest to get the border open again. They are desperate to sell their goods to us!
21/12/2020 20:45:57 1 0
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the only ones i see complaining are remainers
22/12/2020 16:19:17 0 0
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No we didn't, but it is no more the end of the world than covid-19 is the new black-death.
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21/12/2020 10:33:44 19 29
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Ed Davey how long do we need its been 4 years and we are nowhere.

Leave NOW
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21/12/2020 10:41:23 3 2
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We have, or hadn't you noticed. What is desperately tried is to minimise the damage caused by gullible people.
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stu
21/12/2020 10:36:30 12 31
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still completely in support of Brexit, just like the other 51% of the country is
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21/12/2020 10:41:25 1 1
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The delusion is strong in this one
21/12/2020 14:38:26 0 0
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You might want to think about your user name, when you post things like that :-)

But if you mean Stu is the deluded one, I agree!
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21/12/2020 10:34:44 794 205
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Johnson you promised the country an oven ready deal. For once in your life keep your promise and put country before your squalid little career
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21/12/2020 10:36:39 26 8
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And your very squalid little party.
21/12/2020 14:19:58 1 1
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It's a bigger party than any of the others in Westminister.
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21/12/2020 10:34:22 437 135
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And on and on and round and round it goes. The slow motion self destruction of the disunited kingdom. Just like the fall of Rome.
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21/12/2020 10:37:12 9 0
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Except nowhere near as significant!
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21/12/2020 10:41:46 3 2
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You have to wonder why the BBC bother with Ed Davey.
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MVS
21/12/2020 10:47:46 2 0
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You have to wonder why the BBC bother!
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21/12/2020 10:56:01 0 0
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Yeah, much better to have Farage and IDS (not !!!!!!)
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21/12/2020 10:57:39 1 0
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I suppose it's because he is Leader of the third largest political Party in the UK? Just guessing.
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21/12/2020 10:41:47 388 79
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Boris “We can cancel our membership and keep our benefits just like I promised the Brexiteers, can’t we?”

EU27 “Silly boy”
21/12/2020 12:47:04 125 48
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Silly indeed.
21/12/2020 12:59:44 3 15
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Eu27 can we continue to plunder your natural resources and sell you overpriced emission cheating German cars like we insist you have too.

Boris “silly Cod”
21/12/2020 17:18:12 3 6
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A typically narrow-minded remainer view.

How about no longer being tied politically or economically to a massive out-of-date behemoth that normal people feel like they have no say in or control of.

A fair deal is good for both sides, unfortunately the EU can't negotiate well because of its size and how many people it has to please. They also are still very much in a strop with the situation.
21/12/2020 19:53:19 6 1
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Boris to the EU: "I demand everything we had when we were members of the EU."

The EU to Boris: "Not a chance."

Boris to the UK: "They're being unreasonable."

Brexiteers: "See! I told you the EU were evil!"

Everyone else: *facepalm*
22/12/2020 15:57:45 0 1
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EU 27 you can leave but we keep your seas, your fish and tell you what to do? Very silly boys given the EZ troubles, if a no-deal too Germany is on the hook for more money than the GDP & reduced exports to find it - not looking good for the Germans for a start.
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21/12/2020 10:38:15 13 12
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.. Whoosh! .. and another deadline zooms by.

Can't help but think the mainland European countries wouldn't have been so quick to put the barriers up to traffic movement from the UK if we hadn't been so hard-headed about quitting Europe AND so intransigent about getting fishing sorted out.
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21/12/2020 10:41:52 3 0
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I seem to recall the UK was equally ready to restrict travel from EU countries earlier in the year when they started demanding quarantine for countries with higher covid than the UK.
Its not about politics - this is about virus control
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21/12/2020 10:41:54 3 0
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Welcome to the subterranean playing field.
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21/12/2020 10:38:46 3 14
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These borders can be a bit flexible when it suits cant they?

The 4 freedoms just seem to evaporate when its expedient for Europe to do so.

Shows what hypocrites they are, and what feeble blowhards we have running the country. Its a continental omnishambles.
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21/12/2020 10:41:56 1 1
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Stupid prat! They must take action against the pandemic.
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21/12/2020 10:37:22 5 23
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The borders are closed now for lorries forno real reason (IMO as a political gesture) so we may as well just leave now. Extending is not an option.
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21/12/2020 10:41:58 2 0
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we have already left
21/12/2020 14:56:36 0 0
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You'd think the Brexiteers would be ramming that down our throats at every opportunity, rather than forgetting it has actually happened, wouldn't you?

I'm not going to make the obvious gags about age, because I'm a retired remainer, and so are my parents...
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21/12/2020 10:41:59 659 259
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just cancel brexit

this is going beyond insanity

there is a virus that is already doing enough damage
You've had 4 years to move to mainland Europe, away from the country you loathe so much!

Probably upset your benefits won't be as good.
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21/12/2020 11:20:19 41 18
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Democratic as always.
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21/12/2020 11:29:41 41 3
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Brexit has already happened
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21/12/2020 11:32:02 42 11
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There is more chance of landing a man on the sun than there is of cancelling Brexit. Hard luck.
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21/12/2020 11:47:00 29 2
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It’s already done!
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21/12/2020 11:47:50 22 18
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Far too sensible (and far too late, unfortunately).
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21/12/2020 12:07:41 25 15
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Are you Donald Trump in disguise?

Just cancel anything that doesn't go the way I wanted.
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21/12/2020 12:08:41 11 5
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Just cancel your whinging.
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21/12/2020 12:12:25 6 3
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And eu now using it as a negotiating weapon. Sick.
21/12/2020 12:48:31 10 8
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70% upvotes for this comment at the time of writing. 70% want to ignore democracy to get their own way.

Tells you all you need to know about HYS readers and the so-called "liberal" left.
21/12/2020 12:52:13 7 5
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Typing “ cancel Brexit” on a comments page, that should work. ???????
21/12/2020 13:12:23 5 5
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About time people reasrched the brexit virus; at least there is a known cure and it's called education.....
21/12/2020 14:23:32 5 3
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You remoaners never give up. You lost get over it!
21/12/2020 14:35:03 4 2
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Dumb idea of the day award. You don't have to look far on a HYS,
Just throw it all in reverse eh? Are you sure you've even begun to think this through given the effort and momentum to leave the institution in the first place. Let's start with the legal and democratic. Oh never mind,
21/12/2020 15:53:22 1 1
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Yes let's ignore the democratic vote. While we are at it can we ignore the last Scottish elections and turf the SNP out?
21/12/2020 18:01:53 1 0
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Can't see a problem. We left the EU last January. Just a new way of life that the EU sub-states don't like!
21/12/2020 19:21:47 1 0
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To late we already left. Remain isn’t an option now. Rejoin is the only other option which would include using the € and getting a worse deal than we had originally. Our best option now is to negotiate a no tariff deal.
21/12/2020 20:25:35 0 1
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How DARE you, Aragorn. Brexit is the 'Will o' the Wisp' Someone with poor spelling thought 'Wisp' spelled 'People'. education in a sorry state.
Al
21/12/2020 21:45:41 1 0
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Let’s cancel the vote for joining the eec then....then we can go back to before anyone lied to anyone, and still not be in the eu......result!
22/12/2020 10:30:28 1 0
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Can't cancel Brexit, we already left the EU 11 months ago.
22/12/2020 11:10:30 1 0
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Brexit was voted for democratically in the referendum and then again in the General Election. We are leaving Europe and will not be re-joining. Learn to respect the views of the majority.
22/12/2020 12:36:54 0 0
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You mean surrender? Good job your mentality didn’t permeate 1939 to 1945 otherwise you might be speaking a different language!
22/12/2020 15:43:54 0 0
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No , it isn't the virus it is the mad response to it, no-deal Brexit is fine, get on with it, the disaster that is covid lock-downs is destroying Europe's economy, we are better off way out of it, we'll need all our cash to save ourselves. Expect the ECB to have major issues next spring with Southern Europe, may even be catastrophic.
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21/12/2020 10:34:20 11 26
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Oh another HYS on Brexit, so predictable. Yawn yawn. BBC stirring the pot but not allowing comments on the things that people want to actually comment on.
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21/12/2020 10:38:19 4 1
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I absolutely want to comment on the brexiclown destruction of my country.
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21/12/2020 10:42:07 89 29
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Brexit the nightmare that just keeps on giving and giving and giving!
22/12/2020 19:06:12 0 0
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I doubt the first German Citizen vaccinated, who was vaccinated in the UK, thought that. Bild made them famous, asking why, in the EU with a German Vaccine, it couldn't be done in Germany? Bit of a stink over that :-)
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21/12/2020 10:34:20 11 26
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Oh another HYS on Brexit, so predictable. Yawn yawn. BBC stirring the pot but not allowing comments on the things that people want to actually comment on.
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21/12/2020 10:42:11 1 0
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Comment away mate..... it only gets moderated off if someone is offended...
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21/12/2020 10:35:36 10 7
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I think we have bigger problems now unfortunately than brexit
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21/12/2020 10:42:15 1 1
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I'd not want to see it get ignored unless it can be put in a stable state. So if not an extension, then what?
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21/12/2020 10:42:25 9 6
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In the words of Corporal Frazer, We're doomed, doomed doomed I tell ye....most English Pro-Brexiteers will not see that this Scottish gent was right as per most of his fellow jocks.
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21/12/2020 10:36:54 5 30
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No thank EU.

Time to leave the failing EU empire for good.
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21/12/2020 10:42:28 3 0
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There’s only one empire that’s failed. Emperor Johnson’s
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21/12/2020 10:42:31 41 10
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Sign now or extend you muppets.

Last thing we need right now is these negotiations.

Government have lost all goodwill exactly at the time it’s essential.
Pat
21/12/2020 15:03:19 7 5
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Yes because we want access to French Vinyards free of charge
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21/12/2020 10:42:32 264 72
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All this so Rees-Mogg and his fellow disaster capitalists can continue to avoid taxes and make a personal fortune while the rest of us go to hell in a hand cart. Where are the free unicorns? Held up in France?
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21/12/2020 10:45:19 183 41
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Indeed. It's worth damaging the UK, possibly to the point of disintegration of the Union, to further their aims regarding making profits and avoiding taxation.

For the few anyway - the rest of us, not so much. We'll end up footing the bill, as ever.
22/12/2020 13:20:25 0 0
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In a functioning democracy Rees Mogg and the rest of the Tax Dodging chumocracy would be locked up, if they were lucky, until they faced the full and condign punishment due for inflicting tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths and economic hardship on the population so they can enrich themselves and their entourage.
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21/12/2020 10:37:30 1226 340
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It was sadly predictable that after all the difficult, technical trade points were resolved, the agreement would become stuck on fish.

Fish that British people don't want to eat, from quotas willingly sold to EU boats and where the main market is, ironically, in the EU.

It is madness that nationalist hubrist is preventing the deal from being done.
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21/12/2020 10:42:52 803 236
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And for the sake of 0.2% of our GDP the rest will undoubtedly suffer.
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21/12/2020 11:01:17 34 90
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If we give in to one thing (fish), the EU will require more concessions on our part.

Stuff them.....
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21/12/2020 11:16:43 38 51
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Fishing has the potential to be a much bigger industry, as it was before the Common Fisheries Policy decimated it.
21/12/2020 12:37:59 7 1
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It may only be 0.2% of our GDP, but for the British fishermen involved, it's 100% of their livelihoods.
21/12/2020 13:11:58 1 1
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And for the sake of 0.02% of the EU economy the EU will not do a deal.
21/12/2020 13:25:25 1 1
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Tell that to the fisherman
21/12/2020 13:40:33 1 3
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to Wallace Footrot You remoners trot this figure out ad norsium . What was the figure before our industry was given over to all our so called friends in the EU , something in excess of the sadness which has come to prevail with this European disaster
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21/12/2020 10:42:52 485 104
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Perfect practice for when No Deal Brexit kicks in. People need to be disciplined, expect food shortages and delays to goods. So let's get used to it. No panicking please - we were advised that this would all be ok. And please to all the red faces - no whinging - remember it's what you voted for.
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21/12/2020 11:37:41 149 245
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I bet you would be the life and soul of the Christmas party if there was one. Don't forget the possibility of a tsunami.
21/12/2020 15:22:11 1 0
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I'd be 'disciplined' if I'd ever wanted it.... As things stand I'll be unhappy as I want thank you. Corona and so on, I'll do my best to follow the rules and do my bit. This stupidity, I do not want to know.
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21/12/2020 15:46:33 1 1
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I Didn't I had more sense
21/12/2020 16:29:03 0 0
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Love it-put the fish in the oven!
21/12/2020 20:43:03 0 1
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'Expect food shortages'? Just like Zimbabwe, Eastern Europe during the cold war, just like war torn Syria. Any country can do that. Then the leaders sit back and watch the rest suffer.
21/12/2020 20:47:43 0 1
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A deal has already been done, why else remove the threat to break the terms of the existing withdrawal agreement?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/54088596

All we are seeing now is a phoney war to make Bozo and the Tories look good, when in reality they will be backing down big time!
21/12/2020 22:58:52 0 0
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Start buying local produce you dimwit
21/12/2020 23:03:10 0 0
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So proud I didn't vote for this mess that is Brexit.
21/12/2020 23:48:10 0 0
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And everyone knew exactly what they voted for of course.
22/12/2020 00:04:14 0 0
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left-wing snide remarks the Kuenssberg family gets bigger by the day now about 1000 on here
22/12/2020 14:51:02 0 1
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For Brexit, we also need to form 2 queues. One for people who voted for it, and one for the better half of the country. The Leaver queue can go buy things once the decent half have got what they need.
22/12/2020 15:50:04 0 0
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Not according to French Farmers, UK food is going to be cheaper according to them, so much so they wanted a hard border in NI to keep it out of the EU.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/french-farm-leader-ups-brexit-ante-with-hard-irish-border-call-1.3085229
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21/12/2020 10:42:53 4 9
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Is this the super duper megga critical stage now? What a joke, take control Boris and just leave.
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21/12/2020 10:42:56 6 13
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Don't panic now Boris, let the EU come to us with a deal or implement no deal.
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21/12/2020 10:50:04 0 3
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Typical French manouver. Dont fall for it Boris. HOLD FAST!
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21/12/2020 10:33:12 24 61
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Michel Barnier hs lost all credibility. More of a clown than a negotiator.
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21/12/2020 10:43:01 8 5
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If Barnier is a clown, we run out of synonyms for greater idiocy to describe the British negotiating team, or rather, their political masters.
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21/12/2020 10:39:03 146 63
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We are already in a no deal scenario.

No doubt even the most deluded Brexiteer must come to the conclusion that preventing a few hundred illegals a week is not worth the hassle of having thousands of trucks queuing up.
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21/12/2020 10:43:11 159 29
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