Covid-19: 'Serious disruption' feared as Dover halts traffic to France
21/12/2020 | news | business | 2,845
France will stop lorries arriving from the UK for 48 hours amid concerns about a new coronavirus variant.
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20/12/2020 23:31:22 559 166
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We know the new strain was ignored by the government when it was first detected in September, and was further ignored in November when it was already widespread in London. Which at the time was defiantly being kept in tier 2.

Only now 3 months later is anything being done, and right after a lot of christmas hope has been raised.

This is beyond incompetent.
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20/12/2020 23:34:23 125 398
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Quintuple yawn...
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20/12/2020 23:40:01 67 31
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Obviously not a scientist. There are literally thousands of variants. You cannot lockdown just because you have found a new variant.
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20/12/2020 23:47:30 28 11
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Well if they knew about it months ago I am pretty sure the rest of the world will be pretty fed up with us for not sharing that with them
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20/12/2020 23:50:46 38 28
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Scientific advice specific to this new strain was provided to Govt on Friday. Govt acts Saturday. Is that fast enough for you? Is that really beyond incompetent?

Should we have shut down for six months because there was a Spanish variant?
It turned out, no.
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20/12/2020 23:52:34 26 22
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Interesting that they've ignored this for so long... Are they trying to completely demoralise the British people? Suddenly paying attention to this & using it to stop families seeing each other at Christmas despite earlier promises, is typically the act of a hostile entity.

Either they are totally incompetent or they have a darker agenda. I believe the former but 2020 is one of those years...
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20/12/2020 23:52:50 21 19
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Correct.London arrogance and now we all are having to pay.Idiots.
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20/12/2020 23:53:47 23 11
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"Only now 3 months later is anything being done..." -- so what do you propose then? The virus can mutate anytime, anywhere (cf. mink in Denmark). As a government, you cannot prevent this from happening. A new strain can be milder or worse, which takes time to establish.
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21/12/2020 00:04:51 11 9
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The government didn’t ignore a new strain, there are far too many and most mean nothing.

The government ignored the data that alerted scientists to the existence of a new strain. I.e. rapidly rising infection rates.

Johnson is always behind, trying to clean up the mess, rather than getting in front of the problem.
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21/12/2020 00:06:33 4 1
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Here's a thought and it could happen, a new variant is discovered, its very infectious yet produces fewer symptoms and makes people less ill. It also trains the bodies immune system to react more quickly to a similar variant which has found a way to hijack the central nervous system cells?
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21/12/2020 00:14:14 10 1
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all virus mutate,
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21/12/2020 00:15:15 15 3
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No, we don't.
The new strain was recently sequenced, it then takes time to evaluate the mutations, and their effects. That information was given to the politicians on Friday; for once, they responded quickly. Unusual, but well-advised. And a new strain with 23 SNP's is unusual.
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21/12/2020 00:18:12 2 1
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so this is what we would have done.
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21/12/2020 00:27:59 1 7
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I agree, it’s all down to government incompetence. It was reluctant to shutdown London so deliberately ignored the increase in cases there. Lockdown fatigue has set in the North West, and the promise of Christmas celebrations has just created ideal conditions for spreading the virus in crowded shopping venues. They should have shut down our borders in March.
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21/12/2020 00:30:10 3 3
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Did it really originate in Kent?

Are there no incidences abroad which could have been brought to Kent and the south-east?

Is this mutation less deadly?

I do hope we’ll get to know these things despite all government and media hype.
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21/12/2020 00:41:07 2 3
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Its a really odd thing this virus, it now appears to of mutated in to a specific uk virus, but not anywhere else especially in the EU block, because their virus is better than your virus the new Brexit / Conservative Covid virus. jzzz bloody christ.
21/12/2020 00:48:36 6 3
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Who gives a flying fig about one Christmas

I’m sure people would wish to see their loved ones next Christmas

Let’s get through this tough time and we can enjoy next year

Let’s not be reckless
Bob
21/12/2020 00:50:02 9 1
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I suggest you look at the Microreact dashboard. It is a little complex to use & understand fully, but you'll discover that numbers for this strain lineage remained low for a long time. It has only been in the last couple of weeks that it took off.

If you cut off recent weeks and asked someone to draw a conclusion they would not reach the conclusion they'd reach today - enough data didn't exist.
21/12/2020 00:57:50 0 6
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novgrod - well tells us where that commenrs come from., Dithering Johnson refusing to take decisions
Ann
21/12/2020 01:08:08 4 2
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These mutations occurred in other countries as well during summer. But WHO at that time declared that it was normal for viruses to mutate and there was no evidence that these strains posed more danger than the original.
21/12/2020 01:13:02 6 2
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It wasn't detected until mid October when testing a sample taken in September. Stick to the facts please!
21/12/2020 01:21:57 1 2
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IF that is true, there is no signal in the Euromomo mortality stats in December, which may be why they say it is no more lethal, so what is all the fuss about? The world is run by idiots, or Lizard People - I'm beginning to think the conspiracy theorists are the only sane ones looking at the reaction globally to this!
21/12/2020 00:54:02 3 1
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Really and what are your sources? Amazing if you cn back them with facts....?
21/12/2020 03:04:19 3 1
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The only hope we have is that a virus can sometimes become less deadly when it mutate to a strain that spreads more rapidly, but this is not always the case and I am putting this in capitals:"I AM NO SUBJECT EXPERT". Only time will tell.
21/12/2020 05:07:57 0 4
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It is grossly irresponsible or totally incompetent of this government.
This government has made a pigs ear of its whole response to COVID.
It has always shown a passive response, rather than an proactive one.
It's brilliant and wonderful example of what is wrong with the people here. A nation beyond moronhood. The dumbest generations which ever set foot this land. An utterly contemptable disgrace of pathetic fools. Yes you - morons all. Stop travelling because that is what caused this mess. Removed
21/12/2020 07:14:23 4 1
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Utter crap. It wasnt ignored it was being analysed to try and understand its etiology. That takes time. My god people like you promulgate hysteria and misinformation.
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20/12/2020 23:31:23 8 4
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Too late, no Visa required for Covid-19+1 Edition.
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20/12/2020 23:31:28 6 5
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Merde!
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20/12/2020 23:31:37 154 46
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Practice for Brexit
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20/12/2020 23:50:20 54 34
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Practice for a GE?
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20/12/2020 23:54:43 1 7
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Practice for white flight
21/12/2020 01:45:48 3 3
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Nope, the practice for Brexit was the 50% increase in trade that caused the queues in Calais and Dover, this is another covid overreaction - ie No trade. Try and keep up, I told you Covid was going to be a tsunami and Brexit no-deal wouldn't even be a ripple on it, well it has started,earlier than I expected, but complete madness all the same.
21/12/2020 03:13:43 1 2
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I hope moss soup is at least nutricient, if not tasty.

Moss is also a nice tp, when that runs out.

But you cannot eat a cake, and save a cake.
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20/12/2020 23:31:48 354 42
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EU country controls its own border activity.

It's like anyone could have done that.
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21/12/2020 00:11:29 119 66
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We won't have control.

We'll be scraping the barrell for anyone we can get. No-one wants to come here any more!
21/12/2020 00:55:26 7 11
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We tryed that when the virus first broke out.. We was shot down by the EU for not following out obligations under free movement.. But yeah I agree.. Double standerds.. Like state aid and the rest.
21/12/2020 00:56:05 3 3
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So what is the Guardian,on about, and if so why are you bothered about UK not accepting the 'rules of the club' ? In fact why have any rules at all?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/06/eu-court-dismisses-complaints-by-hungary-and-slovakia-over-refugees
21/12/2020 01:54:43 6 9
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The UK could not legally refuse entry to EU people.

Now that the UK is not in the EU the EU can legally close its border with the UK. Which is fine - we can close our border with the EU too.

Oh, btw. How many people in the EU have benefited from that EU vaccine purchase scheme and been vaccinated already? Must be millions, surely?
21/12/2020 02:42:43 8 6
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France is in the EU and shuts it's borders in 2 days. The UK is out of the EU and could not shut it's border in the first 2 months of the virus spreading. Tell me who has control.
21/12/2020 08:47:09 1 3
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Yes but you can't win a referendum and an election with the truth. Only lies that stir up hate, resentment and division will do for good old Spaffer Johnson.
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20/12/2020 23:32:10 241 124
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So how long before brexiteeeeeeeersssssssss think that the EU are "Punishing us" (Which they flipping aren't)
If you can't see that then you're pretty thick. This is EU showing us what they are capable of to get us to sign up to their silly demands. Removed
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20/12/2020 23:59:42 7 28
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I voted brexit to punish the rich.
Covid is a bonus
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21/12/2020 00:00:08 10 7
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This is about virology, not politics. Stop muddling the waters.
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21/12/2020 00:10:02 1 2
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Well I do. It 's patently obvious to me.
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21/12/2020 00:17:27 2 4
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This whole thing is fishy. The ECDC's own report says that they can't tell if it's already in widespread circulation in the EU because most EU countries aren't doing the level of sequencing we are and so can't actually tell. They're penalizing the country that actually bothered looking for this, with measures far more aggressive than they used to stop Covid originally. Deeply counterproductive.
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21/12/2020 00:29:35 2 2
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The EU are putting their loyal members first, as they should.
21/12/2020 05:19:42 0 2
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EU is punishing us!!!!
21/12/2020 08:04:40 0 1
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They have been for 4 years and intend to do so for as long as they can.
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20/12/2020 23:32:25 45 41
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This is the perfect excuse to cancel Brexit.
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20/12/2020 23:35:44 5 11
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Free movement of people?
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20/12/2020 23:38:10 4 6
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Remainers never give in do they?
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20/12/2020 23:42:04 6 3
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What on hell got to do with Brexit? You can't cancel Brexit we have already left the EU
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20/12/2020 23:44:52 5 5
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Hopefully
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20/12/2020 23:52:45 5 3
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....no ...perfect excuse to bring the end to negotations..the EU are not serious ...Brexit happened in January ...where were you?
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20/12/2020 23:52:57 4 8
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we can't cancel , because we have already left, we are arguing over a trade agreement with a group of federalists who wish to control and dictate to us .
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20/12/2020 23:53:42 3 8
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You are having a laugh. This is THE reason for Brexit. We are technically still in the EU, yet we're being isolated because of a virus brought in from the EU. We never blocked people coming in then, so how can they get away with it now?

Let's get out and shut up our borders, no-deal.
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PJB
20/12/2020 23:32:30 13 28
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Britain now under siege.
Possibly also under attack.
Very sinister developments today.
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20/12/2020 23:35:30 14 4
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Rubbish... soveriegn nations exercising their right to close borders. What's wrong with that? They don't want to import the new strain of Covid. Makes sense.
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20/12/2020 23:54:41 1 2
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Some EU countries raising the drawbridge to UK travellers and commerce (as they're perfectly entitled to do so); the gist of many HYS responses is: "it's not cricket"...

Remind me again the key thrust of Brexit - oh yes, we want control of our borders so we can choose who we let in... the hypocrisy is priceless.
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21/12/2020 00:01:22 0 1
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1 + 1 = 8 in your world I suppose.??????
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20/12/2020 23:32:37 386 64
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Let's face it, we're in the brown stuff, big time.
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20/12/2020 23:33:31 199 39
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It's worse than that.
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20/12/2020 23:43:56 8 12
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Is that Lord Hawhaw?
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20/12/2020 23:47:52 25 13
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Boris is in charge so it's to be expected!
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20/12/2020 23:48:55 8 2
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And we're forced to stand on our heads
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MK
20/12/2020 23:54:15 25 4
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...Thanks to id*io*ts everywhere that can't be bothered keeping 2 metres away.

If they can't do something as simple as that in public, what are they doing when they're at home. Mixing with everyone as in normal times I bet.
21/12/2020 02:54:40 1 1
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Hope tp paper mills in England goes full steam...

If any.
21/12/2020 03:57:26 0 2
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Gooooooooooooooooood
21/12/2020 05:52:35 0 3
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Absolutely and drpending upon outlook there is only one way to go.

Are you an uppie or a downie?

Brexit was a rehearsal for Covid.

Testing - positive or negative?

No, no, no, put the swab away. The discussion is of outlook and attitude.
21/12/2020 09:48:08 1 2
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i am worried as previous posters have said about the brown stuff "even worse than that" Think we are about to enter up our own dark orofice.
please excuse spelling
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20/12/2020 23:33:26 191 28
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Now is the time for us all to forget our squabbling
Now is the time for us all to do our bit to protect ourselves and others
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20/12/2020 23:45:09 94 36
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Amazing
We have a Covid emergency
And a reasonable post gets multiple down votes
Where is your humanity?
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20/12/2020 23:54:54 3 11
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????????
21/12/2020 05:16:28 2 1
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Yes it is.
But, unfortunately, people are selfish and just look after Number one.
21/12/2020 07:54:14 1 1
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Sounds a bit like a drunk driver starting a suggestion with "Now isn't the time to worry about who was driving when we crashed..."
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20/12/2020 23:32:37 386 64
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Let's face it, we're in the brown stuff, big time.
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20/12/2020 23:33:31 199 39
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It's worse than that.
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20/12/2020 23:37:41 11 6
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Brown stuff with sharp nuts in it? There's nothing worse than that.
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21/12/2020 00:43:28 9 1
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He's dead Jim.
21/12/2020 02:00:47 1 2
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And we can't even smell it.
rob
21/12/2020 04:14:34 0 1
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It’s large.
21/12/2020 07:18:15 2 2
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true and we have a tory government to add to the problems
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20/12/2020 23:33:34 9 10
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Odd how up until now freight has moved freely between the UK and Europe with no issues, wonder why? In terms of government ignoring warnings of this new strain, did not see the so called experts jumping in and advising and let us not forget the WHO ignored the original strain developing over the past 7 plus years.
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20/12/2020 23:33:53 58 6
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Therefore shouldn't truck drivers from the UK be a top priority for the vaccine?
Amy
21/12/2020 06:03:03 5 2
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Yes! I'd be happy to shield for an extra couple of months to allow key workers to get the vaccine - if they can't catch it they're less likely to give it to me.
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Bob
20/12/2020 23:34:04 605 122
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But surely France is a member of the EU?

I thought EU countries had no control over their borders?

That they are not sovereign? Don't have Freedom?

I thought a million migrants could simply walk over every day?

Hmmm
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20/12/2020 23:37:03 217 161
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And yet people still get on boats a try to come to the UK.
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20/12/2020 23:57:19 14 25
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Haha some of you guys really are obsessed. What a way to live.
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21/12/2020 00:04:38 21 8
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Oh dear. Some people are ignorant. EU borders could always be closed in an emergency situation. The reason many wanted the UK to close its borders did not qualify as being an emergency. Nevertheless, the EU still likes to act as one, and I think you may see an EU-wide policy. France however probably could claim they are particularly affected because of the tunnel emerging from a tier 4 zone.
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21/12/2020 00:06:47 13 13
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I suspect you are taking the mick. you were not fooled by the vote leave lies either.
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21/12/2020 00:07:53 13 13
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France appear to be more superior than the UN by applying 2 days of sanctions on our food supply chain. Welcome to the new Iran / North Korea.
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21/12/2020 00:17:26 11 7
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Arch brexiteer Bamford is trying to get all his stock of JCBs over to Europe before the 1st
400 truck loads. Not sold but before tarrifs hit.
He must be gutted.
No more than this staff though who suspect production is about to be shifted to the EU
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21/12/2020 00:25:20 3 2
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Yes they have - in times of national emergency. Isn't that what this is?
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mjb
21/12/2020 00:33:15 4 1
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No, you can by dinghy tho
21/12/2020 00:31:08 8 6
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The french never obey rules. They are always having blockades agains Spanish products.
Nobody in the EU during the whole pandemic has put a freight blockade against another country.
That you dont mention that they do it, 1 hour before the talks for a trade deal were set to conclude, means you are more interested in attacking the UK than the French blackmailed.
21/12/2020 00:50:46 1 3
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Lol
21/12/2020 00:51:26 7 3
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They just break the rules, which is why we keep telling you the EU is doomed, because when it comes to France and Germany then the rules don't count, only for Greece, Italy ,Spain, Hungary, Poland and the rest do the rules count.
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20/12/2020 23:34:15 58 19
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I smell a rather large rat!!!!!!
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20/12/2020 23:35:33 32 9
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My thoughts exactly.
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20/12/2020 23:36:58 6 4
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It no Rat! It Hamster Mr Fawlty
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20/12/2020 23:47:58 3 4
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Absolutely agree...
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20/12/2020 23:42:36 4 7
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The only rat you’ll smell are the ones stuck & dying in the freight queues our UK Government have stupidly created for ourselves. Best to get the lorry drivers COVID-19 tested ASAP!
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21/12/2020 00:40:32 0 1
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Now, now.
Show our PM some respect.
21/12/2020 10:33:56 0 1
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Yay! Tonight we eat!
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20/12/2020 23:34:18 20 21
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Extend transition period. It’d be shooting ourselves in the foot while dealing with trade deal and the new COVID strain. Boris stop dithering!
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20/12/2020 23:34:21 305 22
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Only if UK has done the same i.e stopped all entries from Italy initially in Feb/March.

Yes it would still have got here somehow but later so more time to prepare and with less intensity.
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20/12/2020 23:39:15 287 53
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Agree, the incompetent UK government were letting planes in and out of the country till mid March.
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20/12/2020 23:43:37 28 10
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No... because farage said we had no control over our borders. We needed to regain our soveriegnty...which was total tosh. All member states have soveriegn right to close their own borders.
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20/12/2020 23:41:13 20 5
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"Prepare"? I'm afraid it's not part of Boris Johnson vocabulary.....
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20/12/2020 23:58:06 11 4
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What makes you so sure that the new strain did not originate in UK? Or that UK would be the only country in the world that would have been able to prevent importing the original variant?
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20/12/2020 23:59:51 8 9
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It'd still have got here from Italy unless they closed all travel back when Italy was reporting zero new cases. I haven't seen any convincing argument for why the Government should've done that given what they knew at the time, and it would've obviously been seen as clueless Brexiter xenophobia... especially after Covid came here anyway via one of the other European countries.
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21/12/2020 00:17:11 3 10
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The strain we had during the first lockdown came from Spain and France, probably bought over by British emigrants who tend to come to Britain while the fares are still cheap, the British pensioners in Europe were all made poorer when the brexiteers crashed the pound by voting to leave the EU.
Bob
21/12/2020 00:52:41 8 1
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Australia and New Zealand lock down when they have single digit cases.

Yet people here can't be bothered with lockdown when there's hundreds dying every day and tens of thousands of cases.

Can you imagine what the reaction would be of our citizens if we had followed their path?
21/12/2020 01:15:22 2 1
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no we wouldn't it is a bloody virus, it mutates, it spreads, it can travel on surfaces, according to the 'experts', & lasts 72 hours on them, animals harbour it, all those Mink, Pangolins and Bats, maybe your pet cat. Do any of you Covid Cultists ever think?
21/12/2020 01:51:18 0 2
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It seems probable that a British citizen brought the virus to Italy from Singapore and then on to UK.
Surprised the Italians haven't demanded compensation yet.
21/12/2020 03:59:50 3 1
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And let's not forget the 100,000 who attended the Cheltenham festival and the 15,000 Spanish football fans that went to Anfield, both in the Month of March.
21/12/2020 07:15:27 1 1
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Hindsight,,,such a useless tool
21/12/2020 07:18:48 0 1
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And the USA
21/12/2020 07:36:27 1 2
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Agree - or stopped everyone going and coming back from the Chinese New Year. Remember the quarantine hotels from the start of all this? But people coming from China, the source of Covid, were allowed to simply walk in - sorry: they got a leaflet.
21/12/2020 09:08:44 1 1
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Stopped all entries from Feb/ March... you obviously work in the public sector or don't work at all.
21/12/2020 09:14:36 0 2
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We couldn't do that ,as it spoil the jobs for the Boys - ousted politicians who have consulting jobs with foreign companies and ring fenced High interest pension pots- not over seen certain pension robbing associates
21/12/2020 09:43:36 0 2
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"Yes it would still have got here somehow but later so more time to prepare"

I doubt it, the clown would just have partied for longer. Remember he only does something ineffectual when it is almost too late.
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20/12/2020 23:31:22 559 166
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We know the new strain was ignored by the government when it was first detected in September, and was further ignored in November when it was already widespread in London. Which at the time was defiantly being kept in tier 2.

Only now 3 months later is anything being done, and right after a lot of christmas hope has been raised.

This is beyond incompetent.
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20/12/2020 23:34:23 125 398
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Quintuple yawn...
If you're so bored, then @#£& off to your bed. Removed
Bored with being made to look stupid? Removed
Get Mummy to put you to bed, dearie. Removed
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When you yawn a big spunk bubble comes out your gob Removed
21/12/2020 05:08:46 0 3
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You may yawn, matey, whilst people die.
Just go away and keep your yawn to yourself.
21/12/2020 05:49:33 0 1
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Agreed. You are the mother of venepuncture.
21/12/2020 06:22:36 0 2
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yes the UK did and the WHO were informed in October
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20/12/2020 23:34:49 37 32
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The cynic in me thinks this is the French being awkward and it's not about covid at all.
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20/12/2020 23:41:56 12 9
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And what ya gonna do about it?

Complain to the ECJ?

The joys of brexit independence.
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20/12/2020 23:38:11 4 2
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Yes, there have been no other freight blockades in any country due to covid a d then one hour before the talks finish, the French do a freight blockade against the UK.
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20/12/2020 23:47:00 4 5
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but really...would you blame them??!! The mess is created by uk voters!
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21/12/2020 00:17:46 0 1
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Put it in context

Try going directly to The Netherlands, italy etc, they imposed restrictions unilaterally before France.
With France we have land/rail/sea connections with significant traffic so inevitable that they want to close that route
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20/12/2020 23:34:59 18 30
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Yawn - remainers wanting Brexit cancelled. Do they ever give in?
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20/12/2020 23:36:04 12 10
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No
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20/12/2020 23:38:58 3 5
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‘Yawn’ is one of the most common Brexiteer posts I’ve seen. If that’s your reaction when you see a small slither of what Brexit will be like then it’s deeply worrying that you had any say in making it happen.
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20/12/2020 23:39:52 1 4
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No
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20/12/2020 23:40:56 0 5
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It’s only 1 all on the referendums chum. Plenty to play for yet.
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20/12/2020 23:41:54 1 2
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They are paid.
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20/12/2020 23:35:03 20 19
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BBC, I urge you to remove the photo of lorries queued at the terminal to board. Is is normal queue for boarding; and is misleading in this context.
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20/12/2020 23:39:34 3 3
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Desperate or what? Are the M20 queues normal too?
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20/12/2020 23:57:09 0 2
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Prove it.
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20/12/2020 23:35:09 100 68
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Well at least the xenophobics got what they wanted.
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20/12/2020 23:36:31 60 62
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Rubbish comment. I don't think anyone wanted this.
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20/12/2020 23:39:21 6 1
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To be fair, this is us EXPORTING.
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20/12/2020 23:55:09 12 5
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People don't agree with you so they are xenophobic. You are an id10t.
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20/12/2020 23:55:38 13 7
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Xenophobes. Remainer ignorance again.
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21/12/2020 00:32:26 5 4
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Taking away our freedom. They don't want to live or work in any other country and they are happy to stop those who do. The highly skilled and the rich will just have more hoops to jump through but the working class couple who want to retire to their place in the sun won't stand a chance.
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Who's to say it wasn't an asylum seeker that France let over the channel in a dinghy that spread the mutation? Removed
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20/12/2020 23:37:23 7 8
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Do you always have a racist agenda or just when it comes to the virus?
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20/12/2020 23:37:35 5 4
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That would suit the xenophobes and racist's no doubt.
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20/12/2020 23:38:56 4 5
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The comments are funny. Brits just think the world owes them everything don't they?
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20/12/2020 23:41:57 3 2
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Anyone with a brain, maybe....
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20/12/2020 23:42:32 2 3
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Don't be so silly
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PJB
20/12/2020 23:32:30 13 28
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Britain now under siege.
Possibly also under attack.
Very sinister developments today.
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20/12/2020 23:35:30 14 4
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Rubbish... soveriegn nations exercising their right to close borders. What's wrong with that? They don't want to import the new strain of Covid. Makes sense.
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20/12/2020 23:34:15 58 19
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I smell a rather large rat!!!!!!
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20/12/2020 23:35:33 32 9
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My thoughts exactly.
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20/12/2020 23:32:25 45 41
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This is the perfect excuse to cancel Brexit.
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20/12/2020 23:35:44 5 11
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Free movement of people?
21/12/2020 01:05:13 0 2
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no problem with that..
Always in favour, used it myself to work in the UK.
21/12/2020 01:06:38 0 2
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correction, Work in the EU., for 14 years.
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20/12/2020 23:35:44 222 79
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Seems like a perfect time to leave the EU.

Just as our healthcare system and trade routes are on the brink of collapse.

We'll be better on our own they said...
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20/12/2020 23:44:33 135 144
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What exactly has the EU done throughout this pandemic other than ensure none of their constituent nations can use a COVID vaccine until they approve one?

Literally every decision they make comes at the last minute, that goes double whenever there's any sort of crisis. France made the call to close their ports because if they'd left it to the EU, they wouldn't have got an answer till 2022.
They just banned us, you idiot & it is the Covid overreaction that is going to kill vastly more than covid, but don't worry your little head over it. Removed
21/12/2020 01:47:08 1 3
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They didn't mind having us in the last big battle. 1945 I think !
21/12/2020 04:06:51 0 2
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britain is full of users and nobs without proper jobs. I hope this is helpful. Find somewhere that brings you happiness, instead of a little dollop of dogs*** leaning on usa and saudi.
21/12/2020 05:18:28 1 1
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We sure will be.
21/12/2020 07:59:55 0 1
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Poor response from EU if it involves blocking essential goods, they can stick there trade agreements if that's how they're going to treat us. We're not the only ones with such a variant, did they stop all travel to and from Spain with the last variant?
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20/12/2020 23:34:59 18 30
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Yawn - remainers wanting Brexit cancelled. Do they ever give in?
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20/12/2020 23:36:04 12 10
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No
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20/12/2020 23:36:08 12 11
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Sorry Boris - who can you blame this time for something that was known about from September, and a rising issue in November? Time to act like your hero and be decisive for once!

I'm not holding my breath though
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20/12/2020 23:36:14 29 18
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Idiotic. Do France and the like really believe it’s not already there.
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20/12/2020 23:38:30 9 5
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Yep too late, the boat has literally sailed months ago.
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20/12/2020 23:43:27 1 2
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It our governments fault for scaremongering and trying to use a new variant to their advantage.
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21/12/2020 00:05:20 1 2
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If it is already there, then what's the sense in making it worse by adding more potential spreaders?
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20/12/2020 23:36:14 138 32
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Strange how France et al can just block things straight away, but we can't block their traffic as quick
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20/12/2020 23:39:20 109 115
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The political will is there that's why. The French have already spat their dummy out because we're taking our fishing waters back, any voices that would have called for restraint are reconsidering because of all the costal votes they're about to lose.
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20/12/2020 23:39:29 13 2
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Bet they won't feel so vulnerable when fishing in UK waters.
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20/12/2020 23:42:47 6 4
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Because we live on a very small island!
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20/12/2020 23:45:31 21 10
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I thought they couldn't make their own decisions because of the tyrannical EU? Isn't that why we left, so we could make decisions??
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20/12/2020 23:47:14 17 9
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We can but Boris won't do it because he hoped to get an 'Oven Ready' deal as he's been telling us for months. "We are open for business" - even if no one wants to deal with us.
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21/12/2020 00:03:54 11 2
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Yes we can. Like France, we are a soveriegn nation.
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21/12/2020 00:26:08 1 4
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We can but we don't have a leader, we have bozo.
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21/12/2020 00:34:38 1 1
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Why would we want to?
We need the food.
21/12/2020 01:42:56 1 1
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They ignore the rules, so when we say, hey, let's ignore the rules and just trade, rejoiners say 'if you are in the club you gotta follow the rules' - yea, really, like France now?
21/12/2020 01:53:36 2 2
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This government couldn't get organised to block anything
21/12/2020 02:09:05 0 2
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We want their food!! No reason to block. When there was a reason to block planes etc in March our lovely government didn’t bother to.
21/12/2020 03:49:25 1 1
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French are used to blocking stuff.. do it all the time
21/12/2020 08:15:21 0 2
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The UK Already had a Turd Stuck in the Drainpipe.
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20/12/2020 23:36:18 184 34
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What I can't believe is that, despite all the increased lockdown measures for UK citizens, we're still letting foreigners fly in from other countries, who can then take the mutated virus home with them. It's beyond belief. What's the true Government agenda here?!
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20/12/2020 23:41:05 92 8
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I'm assuming no one will be flying in on the basis they can't get out.
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20/12/2020 23:42:06 3 4
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Not true
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20/12/2020 23:44:27 23 4
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Or who brought it with them. Or brought another strain, there will be many, viruses mutate all the time.

I do agree it is madness to allow so many to enter the country. The sea is our greatest defence, and we are not using it.
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20/12/2020 23:40:53 3 17
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46% of all coronovirus cases in the UK, originated in Spain.
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21/12/2020 00:22:54 0 12
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"What's the true Government agenda here?!"

Yes exactly.

I think the "far right" are onto something with the "global reset/NWO" accusation.

It is not just incompetence.

Similarly .. the cross infections to cancer patients in hospitals still going on.
Again .. that can't be just incompetence.

And .. Nightingales lying empty ...
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21/12/2020 00:30:21 15 1
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May I point out a lot of British holidaymakers went abroad while recommendations were that overseas travel should be restricted to essential travel only?.Don't blame foreigners.
If these people are so dissatisfied with the UK that they are desperate to leave. then perhaps they should emigrate.
BTW I am a remainer, was and am.
21/12/2020 05:17:42 0 1
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The Black Death?
21/12/2020 07:53:48 0 1
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Foreigners are less likely to come here because they may not be able to get back home, especially those who want Christmas at home. Sadly knock on effect is that goods wont be delivered, adding to the backlog. I think it's more to do with Brexit then the virus.
21/12/2020 08:08:50 0 1
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It’s the responsibility of their own government not ours to regulate their movements
21/12/2020 09:19:42 0 1
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They are trying to strike a balance between the economy and locking down. If there were no social or financial consequences of lockdown we would have been locked down for months. But there are, massive huge enormous ones. We are almost bankrupt, millions unemployed, businesses on their knees, destitution etc & all for the sake of a few excess deaths in really old/ill people. Not balanced at all.
21/12/2020 09:57:06 0 1
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The agenda is little changed from what it was right at the start of the pandemic when they were glacially slow to shut down air travel from known hot-spots of Covid infection.

Short term business interests always seem to edge it into first place when deciding policy.
21/12/2020 10:04:36 0 1
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They'll be stuck here!
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20/12/2020 23:35:09 100 68
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Well at least the xenophobics got what they wanted.
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20/12/2020 23:36:31 60 62
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Rubbish comment. I don't think anyone wanted this.
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20/12/2020 23:51:54 13 9
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Read hys comments. Plenty of leave voters still baying for no deal, WTO etc. Claiming they knew what they voted for.
They do need to own it
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20/12/2020 23:53:15 2 6
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You failed at the 5th word.
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20/12/2020 23:57:46 0 3
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Oh yes you did.
21/12/2020 00:52:09 1 4
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This is what they voted for. Democracy plain and simple.
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20/12/2020 23:36:32 5 4
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I'm living in a twilight zone episode.
If you didn't laugh... you'd cry!
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20/12/2020 23:48:19 2 1
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Black mirror
Hamilton won ... my dogs threw up beside me. Removed
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20/12/2020 23:41:09 0 2
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Idiotic
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20/12/2020 23:41:51 0 1
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Well I hope they took the paw whilst doing it Creasy. lol
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21/12/2020 00:02:39 0 1
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Racist dogs? I didn't know it was possible.
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20/12/2020 23:36:51 12 12
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Of course with cases rising sharply in France for the past few months...it may well have arrived in Kent from there !
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20/12/2020 23:39:28 0 1
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Yes and I didn't see any freight blockade against France at the time.
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20/12/2020 23:34:15 58 19
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I smell a rather large rat!!!!!!
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20/12/2020 23:36:58 6 4
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It no Rat! It Hamster Mr Fawlty
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20/12/2020 23:59:06 6 1
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And not just any old hamster, it's a filigree Siberian hamster
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20/12/2020 23:37:00 24 17
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Time most of these lorries stopped channel hopping and goods went by containers. Drivers picking them up stayed on their own sides of the sea. Forced changes can improve things disrupting the lazy status quo. Spread goods arrivals out be sea to ports closer to destinations.
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20/12/2020 23:40:35 26 9
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You haven't got a scooby have you.
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20/12/2020 23:46:49 5 3
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You have absolutely no idea about logistics and flow of goods
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20/12/2020 23:54:35 1 2
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And save a lot of co2 - 20+% for goods destined to Midlands and beyond. If we are going to get carbon neutral this is the sort of change will need to be made
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20/12/2020 23:34:04 605 122
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But surely France is a member of the EU?

I thought EU countries had no control over their borders?

That they are not sovereign? Don't have Freedom?

I thought a million migrants could simply walk over every day?

Hmmm
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20/12/2020 23:37:03 217 161
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And yet people still get on boats a try to come to the UK.
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20/12/2020 23:43:17 61 24
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And to Jordan in larger numbers than the UK. Does that make Jordan better than the UK ?
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20/12/2020 23:47:14 79 53
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One has nothing to do with the other

Leave the veiled racism in your own home, don't spread it around
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20/12/2020 23:49:10 42 29
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Thousands of people fleeing wars, poverty and authoritorian abuse never attempt to reach the UK.
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20/12/2020 23:49:55 20 14
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Genuine question, how is France able to do this?
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20/12/2020 23:50:53 59 65
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since the new strain is prevalent on the south coast, it seems to me that it crossed the channel on the 100s of boats that head here every week...legally and illegally
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20/12/2020 23:57:53 27 36
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Mostly because Brexiteers think the world should speak English. Lack of ID cards also makes it easier to disappear. Not thought that through, had you?
21/12/2020 00:56:56 0 2
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As the red cross has reported Brundle, from many countries there's no safe way to apply to come to the UK. People come to rejoin family, because they speak english - and refugees and asylum seekers can come.
21/12/2020 00:57:37 0 2
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What kind of people? Desperate ones.
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20/12/2020 23:37:12 3 4
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seen this scenario on netflix....doesn't end well lol
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20/12/2020 23:39:34 0 1
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makes me think of the film bed sitting room ? lol
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20/12/2020 23:37:17 258 66
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this is just Brexit 2 weeks early
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20/12/2020 23:58:41 82 48
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Brilliant isn't it , the well heeled get a taste of chaos
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20/12/2020 23:53:18 6 5
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So clearly not Brexit.
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21/12/2020 00:05:17 4 11
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Clearly nothing to do with brexit then, you seem obsessed!
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21/12/2020 00:06:57 5 2
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Nah, this is worse than Brexit - that wouldn't cut off all truck freight from the continent - and as others have pointed out, there's nothing the EU rules can do to stop it. (Nor is there anything our government could do in order to ensure our food is sourced locally and won't get cut off - the EU does ensure that they can't favour local suppliers which won't go away in a crisis.)
21/12/2020 01:26:11 1 7
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This is covid you donut, Brexit was the queues in Dover and Calais due to 50% increased trade traffice, this is NO traffic, -have you no brain either? Many World leaders clearly have not.
21/12/2020 03:43:51 2 1
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And if people want to eat - now it’s time for everybody to go to fishing.

Let’s get rowing!!
21/12/2020 05:14:04 0 3
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Hahaha you have no idea what you are saying.
21/12/2020 11:54:59 0 1
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why do people think Europe will stop trading with the UK, money still talks and they wont stop
Who's to say it wasn't an asylum seeker that France let over the channel in a dinghy that spread the mutation? Removed
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20/12/2020 23:37:23 7 8
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Do you always have a racist agenda or just when it comes to the virus?
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20/12/2020 23:44:08 4 3
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Racist? Get a grip.
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20/12/2020 23:37:26 6 6
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Fair enough really! Now cue the armchair thumpers who brought us to this point scoffing at the very idea
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20/12/2020 23:37:30 345 64
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Now then!

Over the next few days the theory that “we’ll be fine on our own - we don’t need them” will be tested like it never has before.

Let’s see if it ends well.
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21/12/2020 00:04:46 63 110
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This is hardly normal though is it let's wait till things are settled and Corona virus is not the threat it is now before we make up our mind.
21/12/2020 00:51:23 3 3
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That's the spirit.
21/12/2020 00:53:14 14 2
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It won’t, but all those with dogs and poppies for profile pictures will always say Brexit is the path to the promised land. It’s like they need someone or something to hate!!
21/12/2020 07:39:40 0 1
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and perhaps we'll come through it ok...or maybe not.. so it will either prove or disprove the theory won't it?
21/12/2020 08:59:12 0 5
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What will really be tested is whether France, Germany et al can be trusted as friends, even business partners. Or will they, as seems likely at the moment, continue to be as vindictive as possible?
21/12/2020 09:14:29 1 4
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Clutching at straws. Best decision we ever made. Always will be. We need to stop listening to Barnier et al wittering on and just shut the notebook and say tarar.
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21/12/2020 10:45:19 0 1
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pilchard.

a no deal brexit does not mean there will be no trade.

Europeans traded across borders for millenia before the existence of the EU.

Today, only 17% of international trade takes place under trade agreements.

83% of trade is under WTO rules.

So we do need to trade with Europe, we just don't need to pay them for the privilege of being part of a system that massively benefits the EU.
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20/12/2020 23:37:30 4 2
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It’s really really bad, but don’t panic. We get it.
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20/12/2020 23:49:25 1 1
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Thank you all those Samaritan voluntary workers out there.
Who's to say it wasn't an asylum seeker that France let over the channel in a dinghy that spread the mutation? Removed
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20/12/2020 23:37:35 5 4
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That would suit the xenophobes and racist's no doubt.
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20/12/2020 23:33:31 199 39
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It's worse than that.
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20/12/2020 23:37:41 11 6
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Brown stuff with sharp nuts in it? There's nothing worse than that.
21/12/2020 05:53:23 0 1
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Oh yes there is. Eat it!
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20/12/2020 23:37:44 165 48
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It is time for Hancock to resign and let someone competent do the job. If he didn't know about the new variant until Friday then he shouldn't be minister. As for being out of control, even I could see there was a problem in Kent and the South East back in November!
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21/12/2020 00:09:14 25 11
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It's time BoJo resigned and let a grown up take over
Bob
21/12/2020 00:58:29 4 10
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Cases rose (marginally) in the first week of November, nothing out of line with the rest of the nation, and fell in the following weeks of the month. But apparently you saw a problem. OK, then.
21/12/2020 01:06:10 6 5
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You couldn’t see anything the country was in full lockdown from start of Nov until 2.5 weeks ago.

Cases were dropping in all areas across the Uk, in varying speeds in different places but down none the less. So there’s been 2.5 weeks of data after a lockdown to observe, analyse, and make recommendations on.....as that’s time science needs, what crystal ball do you use huh?
21/12/2020 01:08:48 7 4
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I suppose you informed SAGE and the PM immediately when you attended the meeting.
We will all be waiting for your next post of developments so we have advantage of knowing the next announcements before the population in general.
21/12/2020 01:51:26 5 3
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And he can take his mate with the blonde hair with him. This gang are the ones who didn't LOCK DOWN our borders in February
21/12/2020 04:04:04 1 1
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Thats the thing, even the BBC reported about the new strain before Friday It's amazing
this country is full of dicks. Removed
21/12/2020 09:16:18 0 1
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Why? Nobody knew about it in until recently.
21/12/2020 09:54:19 0 1
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It is way past time for Bozo and all of his clowns to resign and let competent people do the Job - trouble is this far in, no one in their right mind would want to take over the mess that has been made.
21/12/2020 11:57:35 0 1
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if your an expert why dont you offer your services, loads on here believe they are
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20/12/2020 23:37:46 20 18
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We are an island. On our Brexit island we manage to be the only place in the entire world where the virus has mutated into a new more virulent form.

Or Johnson is making this up to cover up his new mess.

I’m embarrassed by the whole thing tbh. How did we end up with these shysters in power?
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20/12/2020 23:41:39 5 6
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or it is everywhere else and no-one else has realised or admitting it. Or it has mutated many times, as viruses do, and there are many other countries with different strains.

Oh, and you had to have your daily moan and whine over something that was voted in well over four years ago, and finally happened this year in January.
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20/12/2020 23:43:19 1 2
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no there are many places where it has mutated - check South Africa- amongst others - if a virus is left unchecked it is more likely to have opportunity to change -
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20/12/2020 23:45:26 2 2
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These shysters were democratically elected into power by a majority- just like Brexit was democratically decided by a majority- see a pattern yet?
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20/12/2020 23:47:14 1 5
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You lot tried to prevent brexit, so they got voted back in to deliver it
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20/12/2020 23:49:06 2 3
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No, we did the decent thing and let the rest of the world know that a more virulent variant of the virus is in circulation. No-one yet knows where the variant originated but looking at the path it has taken it is safe to suspect continental Europe as much as suspecting the uK itself.
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21/12/2020 00:00:27 2 1
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The poorly educated. They luv em.
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21/12/2020 00:06:04 1 1
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And you are blaming the government for this?

Do you have any idea how viruses develop? Or that there are already other known mutations? This is nature.

Governments cannot control it. Anyone who says they can control mutation is a fool or a liar. Anyone who expects it is just a fool.

Will you be skipping the vaccine too?
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21/12/2020 00:13:18 0 1
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...the virus has mutated in many countries in different ways...the Tier 4 response here has been made due to the accelerated number of cases and hospital admissions in these '4' areas and a high percentage of those, can be linked to the new mutation due to our our expert trace and link mechanisms....your attempt to politicize your ignorance does not justify your embarrassment.....
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20/12/2020 23:37:46 25 16
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BoJo getting in Brexit practice.

Why are cobra not meeting till morrow.

Passed the little boys bedtime and he was promised full Sunday off as he worked on Saturday.????
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20/12/2020 23:45:59 3 6
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No deal Brexit is like a disabily ramp compared to cliff edge covid.
But we're coping!
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20/12/2020 23:37:47 9 3
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This year has frankly been awful.
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20/12/2020 23:44:28 2 7
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Except for the millions on furlough hand outs.
Or those who house prices have shot up
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20/12/2020 23:49:29 1 1
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And so has our Government ??
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20/12/2020 23:59:15 1 1
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At last! Something we can all agree on.
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20/12/2020 23:37:47 11 16
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Another good excuse for the French to disrupt us - where did this COVID variant come from? For all anyone knows at present it could have come from overseas
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20/12/2020 23:39:27 1 2
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Really?
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20/12/2020 23:43:08 0 1
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I'm not sure virus mutations give two hoots about nationality.
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20/12/2020 23:43:35 0 1
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By a rubber type of small watercraft?
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20/12/2020 23:43:51 0 1
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We're kind of doing a good job of disrupting ourselves surely ??
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20/12/2020 23:37:51 3 5
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The Mayans were nearly right, 2020 instead of 2012 is pretty close.
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20/12/2020 23:42:53 0 1
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You trust people who had mass sacrifices , because the climate was naturally changing
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20/12/2020 23:32:25 45 41
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This is the perfect excuse to cancel Brexit.
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20/12/2020 23:38:10 4 6
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Remainers never give in do they?
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20/12/2020 23:53:50 4 5
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...remainers should emigrate to Europe...where they can remain...
21/12/2020 01:07:07 0 2
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No, leave that to quitters.
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20/12/2020 23:38:20 7 11
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Time to stock up on pasta and toilet paper.
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20/12/2020 23:41:35 1 1
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But pasta makes you constipated
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20/12/2020 23:46:04 0 1
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Well food shortages were part of the conspiracy agenda, so guess we will have to see how this plays out. I've been stocking up on tins over the last few months just in case. I'll be eating beans and spaghetti until next Christmas.
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20/12/2020 23:36:14 29 18
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Idiotic. Do France and the like really believe it’s not already there.
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20/12/2020 23:38:30 9 5
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Yep too late, the boat has literally sailed months ago.
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20/12/2020 23:38:33 1 6
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Who Owns the tictac ufo. That technology now 16 years ago could end the energy crisis overnight... If its ours - I mean like the malstrom 1967 incident they may be from elsewhere in our Universe.
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20/12/2020 23:47:32 0 1
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i understand and its a thought, however, do you think greedy selfish spiteful human race is worth saving. im a specimen by no choice of mine. i used to think i could win over and unite and share but at 55 im realising theres jack i can do, just try and listen and stay sane(ish) lol and im ashamed
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20/12/2020 23:38:48 11 11
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Empty shelves over Christmas? Followed by Brexit in January. With this Government and a totally divided public.

Buckle up boys and girls.
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20/12/2020 23:40:30 5 4
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yes the sun lit up lands
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Having just watched video footage of various London stations rammed with people trying to get out of the city its no wonder travel restrictions are being imposed. What do they think they are doing and why are trains still running. Removed
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20/12/2020 23:49:35 11 1
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They think they're doing exactly what they want to do and sod everyone else. The trains are making themselves some money.
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20/12/2020 23:48:52 1 1
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To be fair a lot of the people were shop workers, and Christmas shoppers trying to get home after the day, but a good sprinkling of others trying to dodge the restrictions before midnight
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20/12/2020 23:59:41 0 1
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From the clips I saw it seemed to be mostly people of university age. As many unis have just broken up and London is the hub connecting multiple parts of the country as well as the major airports it’s not a complete shock lot of people were going home for Xmas.

Just because they were traveling through London doesn’t mean their home is London & SE.
Who's to say it wasn't an asylum seeker that France let over the channel in a dinghy that spread the mutation? Removed
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20/12/2020 23:38:56 4 5
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The comments are funny. Brits just think the world owes them everything don't they?
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20/12/2020 23:47:41 1 1
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Not sure we do. Just sick of the world taking from us.
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20/12/2020 23:34:59 18 30
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Yawn - remainers wanting Brexit cancelled. Do they ever give in?
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20/12/2020 23:38:58 3 5
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‘Yawn’ is one of the most common Brexiteer posts I’ve seen. If that’s your reaction when you see a small slither of what Brexit will be like then it’s deeply worrying that you had any say in making it happen.
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20/12/2020 23:41:29 2 2
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Yawn again.
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20/12/2020 23:38:58 97 26
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Boris Johnson:

Go out, no dont go out, unless you want to, but maybe dont

Go to work, no dont go to work unless you have to (which you probably do) but you definatly shouldnt, unless you want to

Meet people at Christmas, definately meet people at Christmas, or dont, or maybe do...NO DONT!!!

Unfortunately in these uncertain times we have at our helm the worst PMs in modern history
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20/12/2020 23:42:10 29 10
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he so stewpid
21/12/2020 01:02:08 3 2
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He makes Captain Mainwaring, (Dads Army), look like Churchill.
21/12/2020 00:37:18 2 3
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And the alternative was??

People keep going on like there was an even race in 2019 when we all know that Johnson was the only serious candidate. Maybe Jo Swinson would have been far better handling this crisis...

Yeah, remember her??
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20/12/2020 23:38:58 2 5
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Mais mais mais. Je suis vraiment désolé mais on n'avait pas le choix.
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20/12/2020 23:39:04 18 8
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I suspect the French are exercising their sovereignty, given that the take back control merchants, demonstrably have none over covid not Brexit for that matter. The timing could not be worse for both goods and people in the lead up to Christmas.
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20/12/2020 23:39:04 7 9
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France makes decisions for the safety of their people in an evening. (Right or wrong)

UK, we'll discuss this tomorrow.

When will we have leadership that is capable of not dithering!
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20/12/2020 23:39:07 3 8
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Isn’t time Johnson started showing some leadership in this crisis? It’s all very well him making initial announcements (commonly known as U-turns when it comes to the conservatives), but to then run into his bunker that is No 10, leaving his equally incompetent ministers to ‘hold the fort’, is unacceptable - and cowardly.
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20/12/2020 23:39:12 100 43
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If you look at the places where T4 is - it's the freight route from the SE - ie it came from there and spread NW - Doesnt take a Sherlock to work out entry point and therefore source.

Media wont have that though will they
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20/12/2020 23:41:21 62 6
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Indeed... Kent... the home of Dover.... it's a complete shock.
21/12/2020 01:10:54 4 1
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Our own scientists public stated last night that they believe the new mutation occurred here.
21/12/2020 01:32:09 5 1
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If they had it there first and imported it into the UK, why do they not have more cases of this faster spreading strain there too, like the UK here now?? .... One piece of advice: nationalistic thinking does not help solve scientific problems; you invariably arrive at the wrong conclusion. Thankfully, scientists work differently.
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20/12/2020 23:39:13 55 7
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Somehow, someone has to get a grip.
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20/12/2020 23:43:55 73 16
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That’s the role of government and the incumbents are clearly incompetent.
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20/12/2020 23:48:30 12 4
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I’m no genius, but I think that might require a change of leadership (I use the term leadership loosely).
898
21/12/2020 00:38:45 0 1
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Caaaarrrrriieeeeee!!!!!!!
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21/12/2020 00:40:36 1 4
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You're right. It's us the populace that needs to get a grip. Covid has a survival rate of around 98% and yet people are acting like it's the black death. The virus has mutated 25 times since it was first seen here in the UK and this mutation whilst more infectious, is no worse than those that have gone before. Get a grip people and stop empowering Adolf Johnson and his crew of liberty thieves.
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20/12/2020 23:34:21 305 22
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Only if UK has done the same i.e stopped all entries from Italy initially in Feb/March.

Yes it would still have got here somehow but later so more time to prepare and with less intensity.
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20/12/2020 23:39:15 287 53
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Agree, the incompetent UK government were letting planes in and out of the country till mid March.
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20/12/2020 23:46:19 20 3
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A lot longer than that - I flew back in September....
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20/12/2020 23:57:55 12 6
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The WHO didn't know it was a pandemic till mid March. That's even harder to believe
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21/12/2020 00:00:01 26 5
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Our borders never closed, until this day the virus comes in on flights, daily, no checks, no tests, nothing.

That is a arguably the main reason why we have handled the pandemic so appallingly.

Not many countries did close borders, but those who did, are relative success stories.

Most success comes from the far east and beyond
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21/12/2020 00:14:03 15 2
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Do you remember the EU throwing a tantrum when Trump introduced travel restrictions to the USA from EU? "The EU condemned the measures, which it said were taken "unilaterally and without consultation"." BBC 12/3/2020
21/12/2020 05:10:27 2 2
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Because the government views the economy with a higher priority than lives.
21/12/2020 07:15:58 1 1
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Another with PhD in hindsight
21/12/2020 09:09:59 1 1
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So we stop all British expats or travellers from coming home.
This new strain was not here then.
Are you educated?
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20/12/2020 23:39:16 235 28
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I advise all British people. For the next few days, self isolate, use your common sense and for your own mental wellbeing ignore the news and comment threads.

The Covid groupies are just as bad as the deniers in their own judgemental way
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20/12/2020 23:40:44 196 8
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common sense isn't that common here mate
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20/12/2020 23:51:27 6 3
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I advise all uk citizens to read the ONS data and draw their own conclusions based on statistical facts/demographics rather than reacting like lemmings
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20/12/2020 23:54:33 4 1
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What's a Covid groupie? Genuine question.
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20/12/2020 23:55:29 8 2
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All British people will be scurrying down to the shops and stripping them bare first thing in the morning. Betcha.
354
20/12/2020 23:57:01 2 4
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...divide and make mischief...you're a troll...
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20/12/2020 23:58:49 7 8
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Common sense tells me that I am completely safe from this as are my kids. Common sense tells me that when the virus spreads in Manchester it's northerners not obeying the rules, but when it happens in London it's a "new mutation". I.E only 3 months old.

Think of your selves. Use your common sense
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21/12/2020 00:24:32 0 2
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Common sense!
Where Ryan the plumber when you need him
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21/12/2020 00:25:36 0 2
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At least a lot of industry normally closes down for Christmas week anyway.
Ann
21/12/2020 01:00:54 6 1
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Thanks! This is the most sensible comment I have read in past few weeks. I found any kind of social media and comments section in media more distressing than the actual news.
21/12/2020 01:32:41 0 3
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I don't deny there is a virus, nor that it Kills, but so does Flu, and the data is there for any idiot, covid cultist or not, to the see for themselves, try figure 4 link below - even in the age groups it does kill , it isn't the biggest killer

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/latest
21/12/2020 01:59:28 0 1
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But for how many days?
It is more and more obvious that this isn't going to be over anytime soon.
21/12/2020 02:53:25 3 1
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There is no such thing as a universal common sense. Which is why people will still travel from London to Cornwall, while slowly 'eating' a single packet of crisps on the train, mask down all the way.
21/12/2020 04:00:23 0 2
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I hope you all mix, especially brexit lovers. They are so tough. Let them eat cake, their own innards, and their own LA dogs.
21/12/2020 09:07:02 0 1
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No, the science of the pandemic is fact, deniers are spreaders of falsehoods. There is no equivalence.
21/12/2020 10:46:05 0 1
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Get away with you and your intelligent, coherent, thought-out comments, don't you know this is a BBC HYS????
21/12/2020 13:00:43 0 0
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Don't be silly. What we are seeing is reality. You are in denial. The same might happen because of Brexit.
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20/12/2020 23:36:14 138 32
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Strange how France et al can just block things straight away, but we can't block their traffic as quick
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20/12/2020 23:39:20 109 115
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The political will is there that's why. The French have already spat their dummy out because we're taking our fishing waters back, any voices that would have called for restraint are reconsidering because of all the costal votes they're about to lose.
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20/12/2020 23:53:58 18 9
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Remind me, how much GDP is UK fishing? Is it still less than 1%?
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20/12/2020 23:54:10 5 3
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There is no worse sight than watching ignorance in action.
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21/12/2020 00:04:10 2 3
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??????
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21/12/2020 00:26:50 2 3
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Half the British fishing quotas have been either sold to the French or to big business.
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21/12/2020 00:35:18 1 2
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Oh dear!!
21/12/2020 04:10:11 1 2
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the english are all dicks
21/12/2020 10:22:28 0 2
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So you think £10M worth of trade agreement bringing mostly drugs will offset all damages?
21/12/2020 13:10:43 0 0
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Correction! We don't own the rights to fish UK waters because our fishermen freely sold 55% of their rights to EU fishermen in the 1990s when quotas became to small for them. Quotas were reduced not on a EU whim but because stocks were dangerously low. Taking back what others own, is difficult.
21/12/2020 15:36:13 0 0
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we are not taking back our waters.. just yet anyhow.. Johnson will throw the Industry under a bus as soon as look at them.. if it suits him.. A likeable Buffoon image concealing a thoroughly ruthless immoral chancer... The good news is that his days are numbered..
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20/12/2020 23:35:09 100 68
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Well at least the xenophobics got what they wanted.
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20/12/2020 23:39:21 6 1
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To be fair, this is us EXPORTING.
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20/12/2020 23:37:47 11 16
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Another good excuse for the French to disrupt us - where did this COVID variant come from? For all anyone knows at present it could have come from overseas
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20/12/2020 23:39:27 1 2
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Really?
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20/12/2020 23:36:14 138 32
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Strange how France et al can just block things straight away, but we can't block their traffic as quick
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20/12/2020 23:39:29 13 2
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Bet they won't feel so vulnerable when fishing in UK waters.
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Cat
20/12/2020 23:39:32 4 5
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Going to upset a lot of people if this continues when Champions League & Europa League start again, rest of Europe will have to play amongst themselves without England teams reckon they all be cheering.
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20/12/2020 23:37:12 3 4
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seen this scenario on netflix....doesn't end well lol
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20/12/2020 23:39:34 0 1
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makes me think of the film bed sitting room ? lol
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20/12/2020 23:35:03 20 19
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BBC, I urge you to remove the photo of lorries queued at the terminal to board. Is is normal queue for boarding; and is misleading in this context.
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20/12/2020 23:39:34 3 3
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Desperate or what? Are the M20 queues normal too?
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20/12/2020 23:39:51 7 10
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Well lorries parked up in Kent before christmas as well as the prospect of them doing so after New Year. What a shambles the country has become ! The only people who will be happy are the ultra extreme Brexiteers and Ukipers who wanted to cut all ties with the continent - they've got their wish.
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21/12/2020 00:24:20 0 1
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What you going to do about it apart from moan? Yep, thought so ...
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20/12/2020 23:34:59 18 30
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Yawn - remainers wanting Brexit cancelled. Do they ever give in?
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20/12/2020 23:39:52 1 4
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No
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20/12/2020 23:39:56 0 3
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So what do we do if the vaccines don't work against this variant ? We need a cheap, broad spectrum anti viral that's been approved for use on humans (albeit as an anti parasite treatment), and has been shown as efficacious in 30 clinical trials as being highly effective in preventing the spread of the virus. Fortunately there is such a drug. Unfortunately the UK hasn't yet approved it.
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20/12/2020 23:45:25 0 1
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Are you the Jude Law character from Contagion - is it called forsythia.
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20/12/2020 23:39:57 2 4
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Don't blame me, I've been out and about every day since the spring sunbathing, i got stocked up on vitamin D, whilst most were hiding indoor
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20/12/2020 23:31:22 559 166
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We know the new strain was ignored by the government when it was first detected in September, and was further ignored in November when it was already widespread in London. Which at the time was defiantly being kept in tier 2.

Only now 3 months later is anything being done, and right after a lot of christmas hope has been raised.

This is beyond incompetent.
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20/12/2020 23:40:01 67 31
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Obviously not a scientist. There are literally thousands of variants. You cannot lockdown just because you have found a new variant.
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20/12/2020 23:44:15 52 19
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Your argument doesn't make any sense, as that is exactly what we have just done!

There was also evidence back in November that this mutation was significant and was rapidly replacing thr original variant in the rising London infections.
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20/12/2020 23:45:31 38 6
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You do when it spreads so quickly (just look at the week on week infection rates) and threatens to overwhelm already stretched medical resources.
21/12/2020 01:43:50 1 2
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Ignore that it's a new variant - that's the cause not the outcome. What's important is that the infection rate is racing away again, especially in the London and the south east. So what's to be done
Obviously lock those areas done tightly, but what about the rest of the country? Do we lock everything down now, or wait until it's out of control again and then lock everything down when it's too late
21/12/2020 01:44:10 1 3
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Now tell that to the incompetent fools , who think they are following the science in almost every country in the world!
21/12/2020 02:45:45 2 1
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They have found other variants before covid but this is the first successful that is able to spread faster. All living things evolve and many don’t succeed, this one did!
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20/12/2020 23:40:02 13 17
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The French action regarding freight has nothing whatsoever to do with Covid but is clearly a case of siezing the opportunity to cause as much disruption in the UK as possible. They remain, as always, our historic traditional eenemy.
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20/12/2020 23:51:35 1 1
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Your enemy.
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20/12/2020 23:58:42 1 1
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And you remain someone who can't even spell English.
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21/12/2020 00:23:47 0 1
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Exactly ... a deflection to cover up their own ongoing mishandling of Covid ...
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20/12/2020 23:40:12 27 13
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Project reality
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21/12/2020 00:22:44 2 3
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Your reality, not mine
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Bob
20/12/2020 23:40:23 241 42
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Back in 1748 we didn't have any lorries going to France, and we survived just fine eating turnips with our 3 teeth...
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20/12/2020 23:53:55 165 25
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There you go again... looking back through rose tinted spectacles at those halcyon days.
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20/12/2020 23:54:31 22 1
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Teeth eh? You were lucky..
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21/12/2020 00:06:28 11 1
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Turnips & turds
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21/12/2020 00:36:48 11 1
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In Scotland, we were living it up on Nips and Tatties :-)
21/12/2020 02:14:43 1 2
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Were you around that long ago then, Bob? I know the demographic of the people who consume BBC output is supposed to be getting older, but this is ridiculous. The shift towards appealing to the ‘yoof’ hasn’t been entirely successful then.
21/12/2020 07:42:56 4 2
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we do grow other vegetables as well,, maybe we need to go back to a more 'subsistence farming ' economy and not rely on 'Spanish slave labour for our cheap fruit 'n veg
21/12/2020 07:54:08 1 1
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It's fine, you should try it instead of your McDonalds Mega burgers!
21/12/2020 09:42:20 0 1
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but we traded all around the world by ship, that's where the 'Black Death' came from.....read some history.
21/12/2020 09:56:59 1 1
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Fabulous comment Bob ! Gave me a much needed laugh this morning.
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GH
20/12/2020 23:40:30 7 11
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Oh how convenient. Is it only the French that have stopped freight? Is Macron posturing again? See how tough I am!
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20/12/2020 23:50:16 0 1
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No, Holland has too, but so much of our food & goods come via the chunnel- especially fresh goods, its a huge problem

unlike the UK, other countries take biosecurity seriously at their borders
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20/12/2020 23:38:48 11 11
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Empty shelves over Christmas? Followed by Brexit in January. With this Government and a totally divided public.

Buckle up boys and girls.
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20/12/2020 23:40:30 5 4
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yes the sun lit up lands
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20/12/2020 23:37:00 24 17
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Time most of these lorries stopped channel hopping and goods went by containers. Drivers picking them up stayed on their own sides of the sea. Forced changes can improve things disrupting the lazy status quo. Spread goods arrivals out be sea to ports closer to destinations.
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20/12/2020 23:40:35 26 9
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You haven't got a scooby have you.
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20/12/2020 23:39:16 235 28
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I advise all British people. For the next few days, self isolate, use your common sense and for your own mental wellbeing ignore the news and comment threads.

The Covid groupies are just as bad as the deniers in their own judgemental way
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20/12/2020 23:40:44 196 8
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common sense isn't that common here mate
21/12/2020 05:15:42 0 1
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Common sense isn't prevalent within government either.
That is why we are in a deeper mess than we needed to be.
21/12/2020 07:50:46 0 1
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was it Mark Twain who first said 'the trouble is sense is not common!'?' and is it common sense lacking, or more 'self' and I must have..it's my right.. I want rather than i need who knows!!!!
21/12/2020 09:45:16 0 1
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"common sense isn't that common here mate"

Especially in Downing Street
French are good at stopping UK containers hut hopeless at stopping illegal immigrants and German tanks. Removed
Idiot. Removed
Hehe indeed, frankly it wold have been easier to take a dingy. Removed
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20/12/2020 23:48:03 2 1
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Is it worth reminding you who was also present, with most of their army, when France fell.

Yep, Great Britain. Pushed into the sea.
Removed
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20/12/2020 23:34:59 18 30
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Yawn - remainers wanting Brexit cancelled. Do they ever give in?
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20/12/2020 23:40:56 0 5
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It’s only 1 all on the referendums chum. Plenty to play for yet.
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20/12/2020 23:36:18 184 34
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What I can't believe is that, despite all the increased lockdown measures for UK citizens, we're still letting foreigners fly in from other countries, who can then take the mutated virus home with them. It's beyond belief. What's the true Government agenda here?!
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20/12/2020 23:41:05 92 8
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I'm assuming no one will be flying in on the basis they can't get out.
21/12/2020 02:22:51 3 2
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Well I’m assuming no one will be flying in on the basis that no one really wants to come here anyway now. And who can blame them? A coronavirus variant waiting to greet them at the airport, Christmas effectively cancelled and economic and social meltdown kicking into gear - and that’s BEFORE the madness of a no-deal Brexit is delivered to us on a plate for our first meal of the New Year!
21/12/2020 04:02:23 2 3
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I won't be flying the onion jack, as i have my euro flags ready to be put up in my front windows and if anyone wants to have a go, these tough brits (hahahaha) I will be ready and waiting. Rule britannia, britannia rules the graves,
21/12/2020 04:08:42 0 1
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My son flew in from Dubai - where he has lived and worked for 10 years - on Friday morning, and is hoping to fly back on 3rd January.

That's how suddenly the entire situation has escalated.

As to whether or not he'll fly back on schedule?

I'll let you know if you're interested!
21/12/2020 05:18:09 0 1
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Some people are thick.
So don't be so sure about that. ;)
21/12/2020 08:47:11 1 1
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Flights are still operating and passengers allowed in without any testing. Likewise private jet passengers. Same as first lockdown. Complete joke...
Hamilton won ... my dogs threw up beside me. Removed
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20/12/2020 23:41:09 0 2
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Idiotic
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20/12/2020 23:41:20 111 9
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If you don’t want the virus to mutate, then do everything you can to stop it multiplying.

The more of the virus there is, the more chance it has to find a new, more dangerous version of itself.
21/12/2020 00:55:00 57 2
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Arguably the most successful variant to evolve will be the one that doesn’t kill its host.
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20/12/2020 23:39:12 100 43
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If you look at the places where T4 is - it's the freight route from the SE - ie it came from there and spread NW - Doesnt take a Sherlock to work out entry point and therefore source.

Media wont have that though will they
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20/12/2020 23:41:21 62 6
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Indeed... Kent... the home of Dover.... it's a complete shock.
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21/12/2020 00:00:53 2 1
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Can covid survive on rubber?
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21/12/2020 00:03:41 16 6
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Full of frothing Brexiteers and hedgerows full of bottles of wee. Perfect environment for mutation really.
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21/12/2020 00:09:35 3 1
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Utterly bizarre when I live in West Sussex, 5 miles from the Kent border & we have a higher rate of infection than the neighbouring Kent Borough!
21/12/2020 01:59:54 2 2
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an amazing coincidence, the mutation occurred at a major entry/exit point to the UK, what are the chances of that? Anyone know what happened to the Danish Mink mutation, they'd already passed it to humans & as far as I know the Danes only culled the mink, not the humans, tho' given the mad overreaction to all this, I wouldn't be surprised if they had culled the humans.
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20/12/2020 23:41:24 21 7
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It’s the right decision, however when the UK said it was withdrawing France from its safe travel corridor due to rising Covid, The french response was “there will be repercussions”. Think or that what you will.
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21/12/2020 00:21:51 6 1
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Exactly ... the number of unrecorded and undisclosed Covid variants in continental Europe speaks volumes
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20/12/2020 23:41:26 4 10
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The virus has been designed to mutate. It will mutate every 2nd or 3rd generation. This is a design feature to defeat vaccination. Remember, nation states develop biological warfare weapons and store them. That's what this is. As the name suggests, wakey wakey! In a couple more generations time, the vaccine won't recognise the virus, it will have mutated beyond scope of the vaccine
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20/12/2020 23:44:46 2 1
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I think you almost certainly nuts... however, after this year, I have an open mind
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20/12/2020 23:48:45 0 1
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The virus has not been designed to mutate. Viruses mutate as does all life. It’s just evolution. Random mutation & when a mutation happens that allows an entity to perform better within its environment then that becomes the dominant form. The virus randomly mutated & it allowed it to outperform our restrictions. Increased spread = increased likelihood of mutation. No conspiracy necessary.
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20/12/2020 23:38:58 3 5
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‘Yawn’ is one of the most common Brexiteer posts I’ve seen. If that’s your reaction when you see a small slither of what Brexit will be like then it’s deeply worrying that you had any say in making it happen.
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20/12/2020 23:41:29 2 2
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Yawn again.
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20/12/2020 23:41:30 10 6
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As there’s nothing positive to be said about Brexit Free Trade Negotiations as no progress is being made, let’s give a thumbs up for Lewis Hamilton, British and excellent.
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20/12/2020 23:42:30 11 2
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Yep tax dodgers welcome in Britain
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20/12/2020 23:48:56 1 1
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Should have given it to Marcus Rashford. British, excellent, and an outstanding human being.
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20/12/2020 23:43:43 0 3
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Always had the best car.
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20/12/2020 23:38:20 7 11
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Time to stock up on pasta and toilet paper.
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20/12/2020 23:41:35 1 1
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But pasta makes you constipated