'Stop-start' Covid rules cost shops £2bn a week, says industry
20/12/2020 | news | business | 1,343
Retailers warn more jobs and businesses are at risk as non-essential shops are forced to close.
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20/12/2020 13:12:50 19 34
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Looks like Kier Starmer got it right AGAIN! When will Bozo learn to put country before petty politics and actually listen to some sane advice?
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20/12/2020 13:16:23 25 16
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There’s only one person playing party politics here and it’s Starmer and has been all along. It’s easy to criticise with hindsight like he does.
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20/12/2020 13:17:56 4 10
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Don't expect leadership from Johnson.
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20/12/2020 13:19:10 8 2
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and when will the people of the uk listen to some sane advice. Never is the answer. Selfish lot, the people of the UK
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20/12/2020 13:14:15 4 4
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Johnson just relies on populism and bluster.
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20/12/2020 13:38:49 5 0
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Boris should have invited him to take part in the Covid Cobra meetings, let him see the advice given for himself.
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20/12/2020 13:46:27 4 2
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When is Starmer going to stop playing petty politics during a national emergancy!
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20/12/2020 16:08:17 0 1
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No, all Starmer wants is for the government to make itself so distrusted and unpopular that he will be able to stroll into Downing Street at the next election.
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20/12/2020 13:13:04 5 11
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Offer an online service. Its the future.
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20/12/2020 13:17:38 10 3
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So you don't care about people in retail who have lost their jobs ?
Not everyone worships Jeff Bezos, by the way.
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20/12/2020 13:14:26 2 0
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And dodge taxes like Amazon ?
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20/12/2020 13:28:18 3 0
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If I had any faith that my online food shopping order would be fulfilled on Wednesday when it arrives, I would never have just made a rare trip out to get a turkey crown. Mostly ok but generally a fail at Christmas. Then there’s Hermes... pot luck whether your order arrives at all!! ?? online shopping is ok but it doesn’t always work!
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20/12/2020 13:13:38 21 18
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"'Stop-start' Covid rules cost shops £2bn a week, says industry"

Well yeah. Sack people or force them onto new contracts with lesser pay and conditions. One large warehouse/seller business and a large supermarket didn't even wait for Covid before going down this line. With Brexit and withdrawal from the ECHR, to be replaced with the Bill of Rights, your right will be further eroded
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20/12/2020 13:18:27 16 9
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Don't look back in anger, I heard you say

We aren't going to have good or worthwhile NHS data during the next two weeks into New Year and may well be knee deep in crisis, bodies and very sick and dying people by second week of New Year.

The new strain of virus is as advised. Were it not this would be called out very quickly by the international community. Our politicians are not daft.

Isolate.
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20/12/2020 13:14:15 10 12
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Well done Boris, you have made Christmas Day ........ a 'day'.
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20/12/2020 13:17:23 19 13
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Wrong, blame the people of uk for spreading the virus.
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20/12/2020 13:22:14 3 1
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It's always been a day, it's in the name.
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20/12/2020 13:42:25 1 0
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december 25th.only 24 hrs(a day)says scientists in new shocker to world.
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20/12/2020 13:16:17 16 24
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Johnson - the grinch who stole Christmas, in spite of 2 days before saying it would be "inhumane" to cancel it.

Poor leadership ? Gaslighting ?
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20/12/2020 13:19:22 13 11
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Unfortunately I would prefer this, then to the extra deaths in January, get over it it’s a slight inconvenience nothing more .
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20/12/2020 13:24:52 2 2
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Or they could leave everybody to do as they like over Christmas and then be blamed for the after Christmas spike.
There is no 'right' way in any of this.The whole world is floundering.
Will you be saying the same thing come Easter? No didn't think so just shut the @@@@ up and do what you are told do. This thing KILLS people what don't you understand about that. Removed
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20/12/2020 13:12:50 19 34
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Looks like Kier Starmer got it right AGAIN! When will Bozo learn to put country before petty politics and actually listen to some sane advice?
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20/12/2020 13:16:23 25 16
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There’s only one person playing party politics here and it’s Starmer and has been all along. It’s easy to criticise with hindsight like he does.
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20/12/2020 13:14:15 10 12
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Well done Boris, you have made Christmas Day ........ a 'day'.
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20/12/2020 13:17:23 19 13
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Wrong, blame the people of uk for spreading the virus.
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20/12/2020 13:25:18 2 1
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Yes, I was waiting for someone to point that out. Boris is having to show something called LEADERSHIP and not just pander to people's petty wants.

I predicted even back in September that Christmas would be cancelled.
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20/12/2020 13:13:04 5 11
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Offer an online service. Its the future.
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20/12/2020 13:17:38 10 3
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So you don't care about people in retail who have lost their jobs ?
Not everyone worships Jeff Bezos, by the way.
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20/12/2020 13:12:50 19 34
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Looks like Kier Starmer got it right AGAIN! When will Bozo learn to put country before petty politics and actually listen to some sane advice?
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20/12/2020 13:17:56 4 10
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Don't expect leadership from Johnson.
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20/12/2020 13:49:37 1 2
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Leadership from Johnson is what you got yesterday. The problem you have is that you don't like what he asked you to do!
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20/12/2020 13:13:38 21 18
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"'Stop-start' Covid rules cost shops £2bn a week, says industry"

Well yeah. Sack people or force them onto new contracts with lesser pay and conditions. One large warehouse/seller business and a large supermarket didn't even wait for Covid before going down this line. With Brexit and withdrawal from the ECHR, to be replaced with the Bill of Rights, your right will be further eroded
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20/12/2020 13:18:27 16 9
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Don't look back in anger, I heard you say

We aren't going to have good or worthwhile NHS data during the next two weeks into New Year and may well be knee deep in crisis, bodies and very sick and dying people by second week of New Year.

The new strain of virus is as advised. Were it not this would be called out very quickly by the international community. Our politicians are not daft.

Isolate.
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20/12/2020 14:28:43 0 0
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Not daft? Where have you been all of this year?

This is the worst, most highly incompetent government in modern UK history, who have totally failed to get to grips with the pandemic in every way possible. Had they had acted properly at the beginning of this year, and during the summer when cases were much lower, then in NO WAY would the UK be in the state it is in now. Sheer incompetence 100%.
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SLR
20/12/2020 13:18:36 86 35
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A minority are the spreaders, unfortunately, this minority attend the shops, Christmas markets, pubs, clubs, bars, hospitality venues and spread without a care. As someone who has seen my trade completely cease during the process of the year, I with there were aggressive measures to police to cleaning of hands when out and about, distancing and that sort of thing. Too many idiots out there.
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20/12/2020 13:51:24 37 17
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I think it’s because this is the UK not North Korea.
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20/12/2020 14:42:49 3 0
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you forgot to mention , schools, supermarkets and the workplace
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20/12/2020 15:05:29 4 2
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You can't police it, we don't have the resources. That's why my plans for Christmas socialising are staying exactly as they were.
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20/12/2020 15:43:02 0 0
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This is not true. The majorty are spreaders. They're called children, in schools. The rate increased in September when schools reopened (surprise, surprise), this is not rocket science but if you're going to point the finger, make sure it's at the right people.
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20/12/2020 15:45:50 1 3
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...and what about churches and places of mass worship that remain open? Or does COVID stay away from religion?! The issue is not the people, it's the government flip-flopping from one direction to the next. All of this could have been avoided, for example by rapid implementation of mass testing. Other countries far larger than the UK have managed. This is a clear failure of leadership.
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20/12/2020 13:18:54 59 25
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Just ventured out to Sainsburys to buy Christmas dinner because past experience means I know my usual weekly delivery will be half empty . The shop was rammed, people bending over each other. It’s no wonder we are where we are. I despair.
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20/12/2020 13:21:49 22 3
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Don’t Sainsbury’s have a restriction on numbers, like the other supermarkets?
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20/12/2020 13:24:06 6 3
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Deplorable. Damnable. If I was the shop manager I would have done a Tom Cruise and barred them from the premises.
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20/12/2020 14:47:47 2 2
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''The shop was rammed, people bending over each other.''

I think I'll get down to Sainsbury's ASAP - sounds like I'm missing a great time!
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ARB
20/12/2020 15:41:45 2 0
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It must be a Sainsbury's thing. When I have been there too many customers ignore social distancing. I have been in other supermarkets and not had the same problem.
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20/12/2020 15:45:48 0 2
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Well you were in there too, it's not one rule for them and another for you (I can shop but they're not allowed) Besides, education is the main cause of spread.
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20/12/2020 16:00:14 0 3
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"It’s no wonder we are where we are."

No, it's because none of the nonsense we are told actually works, and wishing it does won't change this.
20/12/2020 18:25:40 0 1
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And by being there yourself, you differ from them in what respect?

Not sticking to the rules or using them as a target/minimum is why we're where we are. I bet very few of us can put hand on heart that every risk taken has been absolutely essential.
20/12/2020 19:13:59 2 1
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Worse than that, one of our young relatives works in a local supermarket and was marking down some produce when she was knocked to the floor by someone too eager to get at a joint of meat she'd just repriced.
21/12/2020 11:54:13 0 0
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Yes shame the old are not tech savvy enough to click and collect.
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20/12/2020 13:12:50 19 34
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Looks like Kier Starmer got it right AGAIN! When will Bozo learn to put country before petty politics and actually listen to some sane advice?
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20/12/2020 13:19:10 8 2
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and when will the people of the uk listen to some sane advice. Never is the answer. Selfish lot, the people of the UK
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20/12/2020 13:16:17 16 24
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Johnson - the grinch who stole Christmas, in spite of 2 days before saying it would be "inhumane" to cancel it.

Poor leadership ? Gaslighting ?
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20/12/2020 13:19:22 13 11
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Unfortunately I would prefer this, then to the extra deaths in January, get over it it’s a slight inconvenience nothing more .
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20/12/2020 13:31:48 1 0
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What happen to the flu season that kills 10 to 15k per year poof it has disappeared.
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20/12/2020 13:19:58 27 17
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At last an article that doesn’t just focus on the impact on Christmas but on the wider economic devastation that these futile measures have caused and will continue to cause. If they saved lives there might be some justification but there is no evidence to support this. Studies have shown lockdown has a negative net impact on life expectancy. Before downvoting me, please do some research.
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20/12/2020 13:23:25 13 23
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There are no such studies. Lockdown has saved a huge number of lives.

And without it, the economic damage would have been even worse.

What's unfortunate is that it was late and half-hearted, so we didn't get the full benefit.
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20/12/2020 13:20:17 6 6
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Real shame that shops like B&M and Home bargains which only 2 out of ten aisles sell food are allowed to remain open thus taking the bounty from the high Street.
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20/12/2020 13:27:32 1 0
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great shop - sensibly priced shop for vaping stuff insead of tobacco, cheap onion stes(of well known veg varieties) - lots of junk but it serves a good purpose and has real bargains if you are savvy.
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20/12/2020 13:20:25 48 27
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As sure as night follows day in a few weeks we’ll get the announcement that this new strain resists the vaccine. We either bring back normality or be in a state of perpetual lockdown for years on end.
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20/12/2020 14:04:13 17 16
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If I were you I WOULD NOT state anything that you CANNOT possibly predict what will happen, as only time will tell.

It is bad enough at the moment caused by the total insanity of the highly incompetent government this year, without stupid, scaremongering remarks like you have made, which, in the present circumstances, DOES NOT HELP PEOPLE'S MORALE.
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Bob
20/12/2020 14:14:20 1 1
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The vaccines attack multiple parts of the spike so one small change means it still has plenty of avenues left. They can also tweak it to incorporate the changes.

Only when you start seeing stories of lots of people being infected having been infected by another strain before so you need to start worrying about these vaccines.
xlr
20/12/2020 20:50:49 0 1
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Indeed. Without vaccination, the evolution of a strain that ignores vaccine-raised antibodies is a statistical inevitability.

I say it in every HYS about covid and I'm saying it again: EVERYONE must be vaccinated.
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20/12/2020 13:20:46 14 14
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A government of fools, ignoring both science and common sense, flip-flopping and U-turning so fast we all get dizzy.

Restrictions are imposed at random - they come down hard on activities which are pretty safe, while encouraging activities that cause the virus to spread.

The only consistency in the government's response is that it's been late.
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20/12/2020 13:32:41 3 4
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Not too late, just timely. Nobody has had to deal with something like this before, there are no easy decision. If those selfish people (are you one of them) who have pushed the limits on the restrictions, won't wear masks, meet indoors when told not to, etc. did as they were reasonably asked we would NOT be in this position. Govt. can advise, people need to take responsibility, GET IT
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20/12/2020 13:20:51 51 15
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Its a virus it doesn't have a timetable or a calendar, its sole purpose is to replicate however it can. Christmas can not ever be stolen.
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20/12/2020 14:47:49 43 4
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Wondering how many of the people shouting “Christmas has been stolen” regularly attend church for worship
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20/12/2020 15:20:31 0 0
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Factual comment
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20/12/2020 13:21:09 13 12
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for gods sake stop whinging and whining about coves and the government. The latter doing its best, has to go with the flow and medical advice which is ever changing and developing. If the moaners could do better( which is easy in hindsight) stand for elective office yourself and see if you would appreciate this constant carping and digging. We are all in this together. HELP EACH OTHER and hang on.
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20/12/2020 13:31:06 3 1
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People would rather sit on their backsides and snipe though.
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20/12/2020 13:21:24 254 117
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What's the point of Starmer holding a press conference? It's dead easy to say " I would do it differently". He's holds no responsibility or decision making powers. May have in 4 years, but until then his opinion is zero.
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20/12/2020 13:29:27 143 197
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In the same way that your opinion is zero.

Why do you post on here?
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20/12/2020 13:29:37 54 39
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Agreed, Starmer is just playing politics with this looking for any and every chance to try and paint Boris and the Govt. as incompetent even when they are doing their best to get the balance between restrictions and freedom. Boris didn't leave this decision 'too late', it may be inconvenient for some but the full extent/risk of this wasn't known until Friday.
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20/12/2020 13:52:23 38 22
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All Labour have done since they lost the 2010 election is basically say "I wouldn't have done it like that" without offering ANY alternative.

It is schoolyard politics and utterly unproductive and unhelpful.

The SNP get away with the same because they invent an enemy that many of their supporters want to hate anyway, but Labour doesn't have the luxury.
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20/12/2020 13:53:33 17 18
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Starmer only opposes the opposition purely out of spite, but his ideas are just as insane as Johnson's and his mob.
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20/12/2020 13:54:40 18 9
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Starmer will tell his party to abstain on votes regarding Covid yet he thinks his wisdom is worthwhile enough to hold a press conference?
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20/12/2020 13:57:18 11 11
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You do realise Starmer is the leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition?

The UK isn't a one-party state, and part of his job is to point out when he thinks the government are wrong...

Then again, a lot of those on the right on here seem to think winning any vote means everyone else has to shut up forever!
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20/12/2020 13:59:33 5 8
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Maybe he has the voice of reason not soundbite.
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jon
20/12/2020 14:06:31 17 5
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Captain hindsight afraid to answer journalists questions when asked what actions he would take sitting on the fence as usual. Lisa Nancy was forced by Andrew Marr to admit Labour had never called for Christmas to be cancelled.
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20/12/2020 14:10:45 6 7
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I suggest you take that up with the Queen as he is the leader of her opposition.
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20/12/2020 14:23:04 8 1
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Yes, it’s so much easier to have the answers retrospectively when you don’t have the responsibility of being in charge. It’s something that Starmer is oblivious to.

There are things that the current government have done wrong and other things they have done right. Those who govern will always be condemned for what they do and equally for what they don’t regardless of political standing.
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20/12/2020 14:25:16 1 0
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May be never.
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20/12/2020 14:42:34 0 3
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Oh the irony.
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20/12/2020 14:42:38 5 2
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Starmer is just all wind like the majority of that Party. We have never had a situation as serious as this and we have to stand by the government and the scientific advisors. When it comes down to it we are novices, we do have the experience and it is all a learning curve for Humanity. Stop whingeing about Christmas and ;let us try to survive.
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20/12/2020 14:44:32 2 0
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Agreed but I was not sure if he was talking about Boris Johnson or Mark Drakeford.

Mind you, this announcement yesterday was jumped on by Drakeford in locking down Wales today rather than Boxing Day.
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20/12/2020 14:45:15 3 4
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Starmer had his holiday on 10 to 18th Dec so he is happy to cancel Christmas and play politics.
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20/12/2020 14:46:08 3 4
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because he knows Boris may run or be pushed in the New Year. He is there for Brexit and nothing more. The Conservatives will soon turn on him when they have what they want. Starmer ultimately is right, this is about leadership and a very poor leader at that. Absolutely right to hold them to account because the have put lives at risk, purely for money & to please backbenchers.
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JPK
20/12/2020 14:46:43 2 2
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If Starker doesn't give his opinion now then how will Boris know what to do in two weeks time?
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20/12/2020 15:00:39 1 3
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See the Tories out in support for Boris is afternoon,they must all live such sad lives
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20/12/2020 15:14:05 1 0
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Agreed.
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20/12/2020 15:17:21 1 2
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Isn't that literally his job? To oppose the government and point out when it could be done better, in his opinion?
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20/12/2020 15:35:37 3 1
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I will take notice of Starmer when he starts criticising his party's handling of the pandemic in Wales.

Until then all he says it just noise.
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20/12/2020 15:43:58 1 1
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Starmer just another Blair, populist self righteous test!!!
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20/12/2020 15:45:05 1 1
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So basically you do not understand Parliament or the role of opposition, which is the same no matter whatever party is in power.
And it was reported before what he said, when he said the government should be doing things, which later the government do as the situation worsens.
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20/12/2020 15:43:24 1 1
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Exactly. I used to main at my director that he did not go far enough, was not aggressive enough in tenders. He retired I got the gig it is so much harder when you have to take full responsibility for those decisions. Starmer is a waste of space. Only ever been a public servant hiding behind committees.
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20/12/2020 13:21:38 106 34
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Parents get in a huff over everything - kids at school, not at school, inconvenient holidays, buying loads of junk for the kids, chrismas for the kids, got to do the family shop with the kids, bigger car for the kids, 5 deroos for the kids protect the kids from the internet, the world.

If parents just behaved in a rational fashion, oh how much simpler the future of everything would be.
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20/12/2020 13:23:17 40 10
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Very true.
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20/12/2020 13:23:50 17 6
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You have hit the nail on the head, to many selfish and immature, irresponsible parents out there, one slight inconvenience and it’s the end of the world.
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20/12/2020 13:28:47 6 13
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Yes, it’s just parents the problem. Are you for real?. The problem is the hysterical ‘worried well’ who have been frothing at the mouth for another Lockdown for months. Combined with the frenzied media and usual rubbish on social media it’s a cocktail for irrational thinking.
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20/12/2020 14:38:14 4 2
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Not just parents but people aren’t rationale, and never will be. I don’t see how blaming a single group of people helps either.
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20/12/2020 15:08:40 2 3
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Take it you’re not a parent then.
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20/12/2020 15:18:15 9 4
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You might not have noticed, but these days kids are a weapon for every entitled mother....
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20/12/2020 16:01:34 1 3
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Think you need a dictionary for Christmas as you can’t spellcheck for errors before posting ??
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20/12/2020 16:06:26 1 0
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If the UK's parents had the sense to value education then government would have been force to do the right and decent thing, and leave schools and exams alone!
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20/12/2020 16:11:42 2 1
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'If parents just behaved in a rational fashion, oh how much simpler the future of everything would be.'

... Or even better were educated about how much hard work kids are, and didn't bother reproducing in the first place!
xlr
20/12/2020 20:46:50 0 0
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It's basically that 4x4 mum with kids in the back that takes the outside lane all across the roundabout blocking everyone, scaled to national size.
20/12/2020 22:02:26 0 0
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its parents fault. yes.

not the people who make the rules. you know. the people who don't know what they are doing.
20/12/2020 22:03:12 0 0
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"If parents just behaved in a rational fashion, oh how much simpler the future of everything would be"

I think this sentence is worth quoting, just for the sheer daily mail of it.
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20/12/2020 13:18:54 59 25
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Just ventured out to Sainsburys to buy Christmas dinner because past experience means I know my usual weekly delivery will be half empty . The shop was rammed, people bending over each other. It’s no wonder we are where we are. I despair.
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20/12/2020 13:21:49 22 3
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Don’t Sainsbury’s have a restriction on numbers, like the other supermarkets?
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20/12/2020 13:33:00 11 2
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There was a guy with a clicker on the door but the real issue was the behaviour of the people once in.
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20/12/2020 13:14:15 10 12
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Well done Boris, you have made Christmas Day ........ a 'day'.
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20/12/2020 13:22:14 3 1
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It's always been a day, it's in the name.
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20/12/2020 13:22:35 57 15
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So is it Just the UK who has covid 20?
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20/12/2020 14:17:49 5 10
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Actually about 1% of the population. Yes quite.
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20/12/2020 13:22:58 52 24
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The Government will be damned if they do and damned if they don't.
There is no way to win as they will upset someone whatever they do.
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20/12/2020 13:28:01 22 5
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Exactly that
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20/12/2020 14:51:41 1 0
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Your in charge,didn't you know
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20/12/2020 15:09:28 4 2
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This Government lie at every opportunity. They are corrupt by lining the pockets or their mates at the expense of the taxpayer for things that don't work. Their response to the pandemic has been totally inept and always too late. All they do is try to follow public opinion. They are not leading the country, they are only leading it to ruin. They need to be overthrown, right now.
20/12/2020 22:11:32 0 0
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yeah. it's a helluva deal, being in charge of the country. maybe we could set up a donation system to them. maybe 20% of people's salary could go to them. and 20% of everything we buy.
21/12/2020 11:58:51 0 0
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Boris has the job of prime minister and he must take some of the blame for this disaster. Blair has war criminal status rightly so. No way should the general public take the blame for this. Boris knew in September about this. ERG pulls his strings so the pigs get fed.
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20/12/2020 13:21:38 106 34
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Parents get in a huff over everything - kids at school, not at school, inconvenient holidays, buying loads of junk for the kids, chrismas for the kids, got to do the family shop with the kids, bigger car for the kids, 5 deroos for the kids protect the kids from the internet, the world.

If parents just behaved in a rational fashion, oh how much simpler the future of everything would be.
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20/12/2020 13:23:17 40 10
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Very true.
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20/12/2020 13:23:21 10 6
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Come on, it's not as if anyone actually understands what Christmas is, where it came from. Very, very few people in our society actually believe in the Immaculate Conception or worship the Christ.
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20/12/2020 14:10:55 0 0
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those of us that do are willing to put up with a little one convenience and not to complain.
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20/12/2020 13:19:58 27 17
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At last an article that doesn’t just focus on the impact on Christmas but on the wider economic devastation that these futile measures have caused and will continue to cause. If they saved lives there might be some justification but there is no evidence to support this. Studies have shown lockdown has a negative net impact on life expectancy. Before downvoting me, please do some research.
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20/12/2020 13:23:25 13 23
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There are no such studies. Lockdown has saved a huge number of lives.

And without it, the economic damage would have been even worse.

What's unfortunate is that it was late and half-hearted, so we didn't get the full benefit.
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M12
20/12/2020 13:44:05 5 4
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You are wrong. There is no evidence that the lockdowns have saved even 1 life. Yes, they surprise the virus. But then they are lifted and the same people die anyway a few months later. So you either lockdown for eternity or we get back to living and dying as we have done for years without some MSM driven panic!
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20/12/2020 13:40:13 2 2
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late twice march/december.presumably to get the money spent in london.
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20/12/2020 13:48:52 4 0
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20/12/2020 14:20:38 4 0
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You are totally incorrect, because if there is NO economy, then effectively there is NO life. The UK CANNOT live on dirty borrowed money forever.
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20/12/2020 13:23:35 96 51
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Truely awful for the high street however blame the selfish idiots who don’t adhere to the rules. Only yesterday people (mainly 14 - 25) were in shops with no mask in sight. They should be ashamed.
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20/12/2020 13:27:48 48 61
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Every country that has mandated mass mask wearing has seen a massive increase in cases.

But no doubt you think it would have been even worse without masks ?
105
20/12/2020 13:41:58 13 8
bbc
Clearly a Daily Mail reader. I see plenty of elderly people with the mask barely over their mouths, let alone their noses.
222
20/12/2020 14:03:12 4 4
bbc
Blaming other individuals...calling them names, does nothing to help it only demonizes others do they are easier to marginalize...not smart.
556
20/12/2020 14:59:25 4 8
bbc
The selfish people are those who are vulnerable to this virus and refuse to shield themselves away from the virus. They are the ones who get ill, put a strain on the NHS and sadly pass away. If they would just shield themselves, the rest of us could carry on and keep the economy going. Their selfishness is causing misery for millions.
701
20/12/2020 15:23:59 1 1
bbc
They should be fined 20 pound spot fine.
747
20/12/2020 15:24:32 2 5
bbc
Masks make zero difference
865
20/12/2020 15:58:33 1 2
bbc
Truly awful for the high street however blame the idiots who believe that lockdowns and tiers work, and support them.
914
20/12/2020 16:10:31 1 0
bbc
Yes, and the age related data does show the 14-25 year olds then give it to older people who die......
20/12/2020 18:24:14 0 0
bbc
All this palaver about wearing masks. It's like being told you have to wear a tie at work: such a fuss over a useless piece of cloth.
20/12/2020 20:38:20 0 0
bbc
Comment on masks - in a "no blame" scenario...
MY mask is designed to protect YOU (ie anyone I meet)?
- so the intent is to stop MY breath/germs/virus (should I have it) reaching YOU?
- if so, why do my glasses steam up with my breath obviously escaping? - there is no restriction or containment on my breathing, so every breath reaches the air around me...
No doubt I'll be told the error of my ways
xlr
20/12/2020 20:47:54 0 0
bbc
They won't be ashamed. But they will be jobless for quite some time.
21/12/2020 11:51:37 0 0
bbc
Sweeping statement again from an ignorant Daily Fail reader.
1
20/12/2020 13:12:50 19 34
bbc
Looks like Kier Starmer got it right AGAIN! When will Bozo learn to put country before petty politics and actually listen to some sane advice?
31
20/12/2020 13:14:15 4 4
bbc
Johnson just relies on populism and bluster.
2
20/12/2020 13:13:04 5 11
bbc
Offer an online service. Its the future.
32
20/12/2020 13:14:26 2 0
bbc
And dodge taxes like Amazon ?
22
20/12/2020 13:21:38 106 34
bbc
Parents get in a huff over everything - kids at school, not at school, inconvenient holidays, buying loads of junk for the kids, chrismas for the kids, got to do the family shop with the kids, bigger car for the kids, 5 deroos for the kids protect the kids from the internet, the world.

If parents just behaved in a rational fashion, oh how much simpler the future of everything would be.
33
CJR
20/12/2020 13:23:50 17 6
bbc
You have hit the nail on the head, to many selfish and immature, irresponsible parents out there, one slight inconvenience and it’s the end of the world.
299
20/12/2020 14:16:02 4 6
bbc
Get real will you.
34
ed1
20/12/2020 13:23:59 100 43
bbc
"If everyone just followed the rules, things will go back to normal soon."

Karen, 2084
59
20/12/2020 13:30:48 111 39
bbc
Yep, just 3 weeks.

Just still summer.

Just a little bit longer now, just till the autumn.

Shame to spoil it now, it's just Christmas 2020.

Come on, it's only another Christmas, just one big push, after all, it's only 2 Christmases, just one more, you'll only missed 5 now, keep going... just another few years.
78
20/12/2020 13:35:20 22 11
bbc
It would be very different if this new strain started killing younger people in signifant numbers!
95
M12
20/12/2020 13:39:17 29 12
bbc
Every lock down and draconian rule we’ve had has been to stop us getting to where we are now!!

Lockdowns don’t work!!
156
20/12/2020 13:53:23 7 2
bbc
The latest one "we will have vaccinated the most at risk (22m people) and be back to close to normality by Easter".

We have vaccinated a tiny fraction of the population and the planned vaccination hubs haven't even recruited the staff yet! https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/jobs-available-help-deliver-largest-19484116
177
20/12/2020 13:56:23 9 7
bbc
Hi Karen, No this will not be the case. Even if we lock away for 6 months once we come out of lockdown, cases will start again , this is because unles we eradicate the strain it will remain active.
187
20/12/2020 13:57:46 13 2
bbc
Sadly it’s a virus it won’t go away regardless. We just will learn to live with it, backed by a vaccine and this time next year we will be either moaning about having a cold, flu, chest o faction or Covid and no one will nat an eyelid about it
192
20/12/2020 13:58:25 8 1
bbc
The problem is no one seems to have been clear with the public to make everyone UNDERSTAND that this was always going to happen.

To remove CV-19 from the UK we'd have needed to be in an April style lockdown till at least Sept and then ban ALL travel to and from the UK till next spring at the earliest.

Anything less was always going to result in repeated (endless) "lockdowns".
250
20/12/2020 14:07:12 3 10
bbc
The majority of people do not follow rules (fact). A large section of the population don’t understand the rules. Let’s face it many never graduated from potty training. BoJo doesn’t follow rules (neither does his dad). We need politicians with credibility and who are much more savvy in managing the general public. It can be done but the crisis has to be managed not left to individuals.
527
20/12/2020 14:54:26 1 3
bbc
Are you in the real world or the Tory paper land?
12
20/12/2020 13:18:54 59 25
bbc
Just ventured out to Sainsburys to buy Christmas dinner because past experience means I know my usual weekly delivery will be half empty . The shop was rammed, people bending over each other. It’s no wonder we are where we are. I despair.
35
20/12/2020 13:24:06 6 3
bbc
Deplorable. Damnable. If I was the shop manager I would have done a Tom Cruise and barred them from the premises.
72
20/12/2020 13:33:57 3 1
bbc
I wish I’d thought of that! ??
534
20/12/2020 14:55:39 1 1
bbc
Then you would have been severely condemned and disciplined by the head office senior management. There are other supermarkets around that do have far better layouts, staff and space for people to shop safely.
5
20/12/2020 13:16:17 16 24
bbc
Johnson - the grinch who stole Christmas, in spite of 2 days before saying it would be "inhumane" to cancel it.

Poor leadership ? Gaslighting ?
36
20/12/2020 13:24:52 2 2
bbc
Or they could leave everybody to do as they like over Christmas and then be blamed for the after Christmas spike.
There is no 'right' way in any of this.The whole world is floundering.
37
20/12/2020 13:24:59 30 22
bbc
Anyone would think the Government couldn't care less about the economy, people's livelihoods, income, mental health, or anything other than Covid cases.

Oh hang on.....
Cure worse than disease. How many times should we repeat same thing. Let people live. Virus will burn itself out if we carry on as normal. NHS will be stretched by the tsunami of Covid , lockdown related issues. Who will help then?
47
20/12/2020 13:27:36 16 4
bbc
It's not people living that we are concerned about though is it? It's people dying.
39
20/12/2020 13:25:18 5 7
bbc
I do all my shopping in Oxfordshire,my local is in Oxfordshire,my kids go to school in Oxfordshire,i work in Oxfordshire. The reason West Berkshire is in Tier 4 is mainly down to Slough,(48 miles away) and Reading 25 miles away. It takes me 15 minutes to WALK to my local pub,but i'm banned.I can drive to work in Oxfordshire,but am banned from stopping en-route,madness.
45
20/12/2020 13:27:01 5 0
bbc
Fascinating.
87
20/12/2020 13:37:29 2 1
bbc
Yes.
There should be special rules for saddletramp.
And for me.
And for Ron.
And for Beryl.
And for....ad inf.
Don't be daft.
7
20/12/2020 13:17:23 19 13
bbc
Wrong, blame the people of uk for spreading the virus.
40
20/12/2020 13:25:18 2 1
bbc
Yes, I was waiting for someone to point that out. Boris is having to show something called LEADERSHIP and not just pander to people's petty wants.

I predicted even back in September that Christmas would be cancelled.
41
bbc
Removed
42
20/12/2020 13:21:34 10 5
bbc
2 billion lost by shops shutting 2 billion more made on on line shopping
54
20/12/2020 13:29:37 6 2
bbc
Not strictly true. In person I am far more inclined to impulse purchases than online, as well as a rest in a cafe with coffee and cake.
63
20/12/2020 13:31:16 4 0
bbc
Which means 2 billion lost by companies that pay tax and 2 billion made by companies that don't
119
20/12/2020 13:45:08 3 0
bbc
Just a shame that online shopping generates no income for the government and this country
43
20/12/2020 13:26:12 184 63
bbc
Unfortunately it’s a significant minority of people in the UK to blame, too thick to follow basic guidelines. Those selfish idiots scurrying out of London last night will just bring this new strain of the virus to the rest of the UK and yet they had the audacity to point the finger at northerners being irresponsible! Thanks London.
57
CJR
20/12/2020 13:30:45 97 50
bbc
Totally agree, the tier 4 should have been imposed immediately to stop these irresponsible idiots spreading the new strain, just so they can enjoy a few days. That’s just totally selfish, but hey what do you expect from the young these days, it’s just about me,me, me .?????????? the lot of them.
111
20/12/2020 13:35:30 22 8
bbc
yep.london.you were badmouthing northeners,yet irresponsibly try to sneak off towards your 2nd home.keep your voices low.
174
20/12/2020 13:55:25 21 5
bbc
Absurd....always looking for a scapegoat...always calling them names to demonize them.
That is how social marginalization happens....it never ends well.
383
20/12/2020 14:28:45 8 3
bbc
Entirely predictable given what happened in areas like Dorset, Lake District and Wales over the summer.

What is also predictable is that there are supplies of 800,000 vaccines, 350,000 used so far, but it's two doses per person. This means by Christmas it will run out!
425
20/12/2020 14:36:46 4 1
bbc
Some places in the north should be congratulated for the way they have significantly reduced infections. It’s just a shame that they had to shut down in the first place. All because of the same selfish mentality of a minority.
427
20/12/2020 14:37:11 5 0
bbc
The lack of self-awareness of this comment is breathtaking. It takes two to tango. For every irresponsible person leaving London last night, there's an equally irresponsible person at the other end of their journey letting them in the house. To blame London for this is missing half of the problem.
516
20/12/2020 14:52:18 1 0
bbc
That also includes supermarkets who have no security/policing of those not wearing masks or chin warmers - ASDA is the worst.
Then you have retail outlets more focussed on adhering to their one way system rather than addressing mask wearing indoors. So much so to harass individuals wearing sunflower lanyards!!!
528
20/12/2020 14:54:38 5 2
bbc
I agree that Londoners have not behaved well in anyway. I am part of the significant minority that are not following the Government's rules. I'm keeping me and mine safe and we will implementing our own strict regimen to keep the disease away and shield our vulnerable family members. This Governments rules are contradictory and idiot. I'm not prepared to follow what they say.
595
JPK
20/12/2020 15:04:41 2 1
bbc
Nothing like a bit of North/South, Old/Young divide to distract from the incompetent handling of so many issues by this government.
692
20/12/2020 15:20:32 3 1
bbc
I live in a low-risk area which is full of holiday lets & second homes. We don't want people visiting from high-risk areas & bringing more virus with them. Please respect us, don't infect us.
705
20/12/2020 15:24:55 2 0
bbc
To thick to follow rules that have consistently proved to fail, honestly its becoming evident that the thickos are those running the country! Running the country in to the ground with failed lockdown after failed lockdown... I think this should be looked at again and not with just SAGE directing government policy with flawed PCR test!
734
20/12/2020 15:30:15 1 0
bbc
Agree, BoJo & his cabinet constitute a significant minority who are to thick to implement basic guidelines like closing borders & proper quarantine..... remember they took 3 weeks to give guidance on wearing masks!
784
20/12/2020 15:39:48 0 0
bbc
Nonsense, schools are spreading it, rates shot up in Sept when schools reopened and have remained ever since. It won't change while theyre open,even if you lockdown everything else, which they pretty much have.
836
20/12/2020 15:52:07 3 0
bbc
Northerners were the least of the conformers during summer this then spread down south, it will now now up north, not rocket science!!! Those that catch it on the trains last night and kill their relatives will have to live with that.....This isn’t a north/south issue, Brits are stupid and selfish!! But Sunak’s ridiculous financial help or lack of it for some is partly to blame for non compliance
853
20/12/2020 15:57:07 1 1
bbc
Unfortunately it’s a significant minority of people in the UK who are too thick to realise that lockdowns and tiers simply don't work.
955
20/12/2020 16:18:11 3 1
bbc
As londoner i agree, but let's be honest - a lot of people north and south have been selfish at some point this year. That's why we're still in this mess.

It's good that Boris made it from last midnight but they should have realised that a lot of people would try to travel early. Why were the trains running if they wanted people to stay put?
996
20/12/2020 16:25:51 1 0
bbc
3 weeks time the same idiots will be pointing at northern numbers and saying they should be in Tier 4.

Nobody can be surprised surely. Londoners 1st 2nd 3rd, stuff everybody else.
20/12/2020 18:20:54 0 0
bbc
Ah, yes: the "selfish other people" trope, so different to "my saintly self".

Give it a rest, mate, and try not to take an over-reported, one-off as typical.
44
20/12/2020 13:26:41 13 15
bbc
Mr Speaker, will the right honourable gentleman, for uturn and broken promises, tender his resignation...
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CJR
20/12/2020 13:32:11 5 6
bbc
Why? Your comment is not at all constructive.
39
20/12/2020 13:25:18 5 7
bbc
I do all my shopping in Oxfordshire,my local is in Oxfordshire,my kids go to school in Oxfordshire,i work in Oxfordshire. The reason West Berkshire is in Tier 4 is mainly down to Slough,(48 miles away) and Reading 25 miles away. It takes me 15 minutes to WALK to my local pub,but i'm banned.I can drive to work in Oxfordshire,but am banned from stopping en-route,madness.
45
20/12/2020 13:27:01 5 0
bbc
Fascinating.
16
20/12/2020 13:20:17 6 6
bbc
Real shame that shops like B&M and Home bargains which only 2 out of ten aisles sell food are allowed to remain open thus taking the bounty from the high Street.
46
20/12/2020 13:27:32 1 0
bbc
great shop - sensibly priced shop for vaping stuff insead of tobacco, cheap onion stes(of well known veg varieties) - lots of junk but it serves a good purpose and has real bargains if you are savvy.
Cure worse than disease. How many times should we repeat same thing. Let people live. Virus will burn itself out if we carry on as normal. NHS will be stretched by the tsunami of Covid , lockdown related issues. Who will help then?
47
20/12/2020 13:27:36 16 4
bbc
It's not people living that we are concerned about though is it? It's people dying.
148
20/12/2020 13:42:46 3 1
bbc
How selfish. 0.5 % are dying, most of whom have lived longer than life expectancy. You think it's fair that other diseases don't matter and the health and livelihood of the 99.5 % don't matter? Bigger picture pal.
30
20/12/2020 13:23:35 96 51
bbc
Truely awful for the high street however blame the selfish idiots who don’t adhere to the rules. Only yesterday people (mainly 14 - 25) were in shops with no mask in sight. They should be ashamed.
48
20/12/2020 13:27:48 48 61
bbc
Every country that has mandated mass mask wearing has seen a massive increase in cases.

But no doubt you think it would have been even worse without masks ?
129
20/12/2020 13:47:01 13 3
bbc
That's surely the point of the post? These people - and many others - were NOT wearing a mask. So how will we know if it would make a difference if so many people are being unco-operative and don't give a damn?
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mc
20/12/2020 14:11:15 7 13
bbc
proved what we already know masks make no difference in fact wearing one is worse, you get germs on it and get too close to other people ban them
373
20/12/2020 14:27:09 4 0
bbc
Take the USA for example!!!!!
537
20/12/2020 14:55:46 12 3
bbc
That's complete rubbish. Masks are standard in China and the rest of South East Asia and they don't have anywhere near the Covid issue we have here.
540
20/12/2020 14:56:19 6 1
bbc
I see no elephants in my house so this elephant repellent MUST be working well!!!!
707
20/12/2020 15:25:09 3 1
bbc
The Minister for Misinformation has squoken.
795
20/12/2020 15:42:14 4 0
bbc
It is not possible to draw any comparisons between the number of cases now and the number of cases earlier in the year when mask wearing was not mandated as there was no mass testing in place until May. The increase in the number of identified cases is because of the increase in testing. If we had mass testing in place in March and April the number of cases would have been much higher
918
20/12/2020 16:10:40 3 0
bbc
Yet another medical expert.
946
20/12/2020 16:17:17 1 0
bbc
That's why Sweden, with rising case numbers, has decided to mandate mask wearing is it? That's why China, most of the Far East, Australia and New Zealand mandated mask wearing, and did not see a massive increase in cases.

It's people like you, that spread disinformation, that are the problem, not mask wearing.
998
20/12/2020 16:26:24 2 0
bbc
Obviously it would be worse without masks. And just because a country has a mask wearing policy doesn't mean people obey it!

I think it's time to get tough. Deploy the army. Anyone not wearing a mask properly or clearly not social distancing - start shooting. People might get the message then.
20/12/2020 18:55:02 0 0
bbc
Where is your credible evidence for that statement?
A moment's thought would tell you that it is nonsense.
By its very nature a mask will trap some/most of the outgoing and incoming viral particles, thereby reducing transmission. But they are not a complete solution - that requires many more actions.
However do I agree that without masks it would indeed have been even worse.
21/12/2020 08:38:13 0 0
bbc
Has it not occurred to you, they mandated mask wearing because of a massive increase in cases?
26
20/12/2020 13:22:58 52 24
bbc
The Government will be damned if they do and damned if they don't.
There is no way to win as they will upset someone whatever they do.
49
20/12/2020 13:28:01 22 5
bbc
Exactly that
50
20/12/2020 13:28:16 9 9
bbc
Following the outbreak of the Wuhan virus, many people stopped buying from China. As the London variant begins to spread I wonder who people will blame?
64
CJR
20/12/2020 13:31:37 9 4
bbc
It was still made in China.
123
20/12/2020 13:39:36 1 1
bbc
Dictatorships are lovely aren't they Al? Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot to name a few. I suppose you believe their figures too? England is bad, anywhere overseas is just and good.
138
20/12/2020 13:49:03 2 2
bbc
The sane ones will blame the virus for doing what viruses do.

The nut-jobs who want to politicise everything will of course blame the government.

I blame the Chinese ... it is, after all, the 3rd virus they've unleashed on the world
2
20/12/2020 13:13:04 5 11
bbc
Offer an online service. Its the future.
51
20/12/2020 13:28:18 3 0
bbc
If I had any faith that my online food shopping order would be fulfilled on Wednesday when it arrives, I would never have just made a rare trip out to get a turkey crown. Mostly ok but generally a fail at Christmas. Then there’s Hermes... pot luck whether your order arrives at all!! ?? online shopping is ok but it doesn’t always work!
82
20/12/2020 13:36:20 1 1
bbc
Well look on the bright side, you can afford to buy food.
22
20/12/2020 13:21:38 106 34
bbc
Parents get in a huff over everything - kids at school, not at school, inconvenient holidays, buying loads of junk for the kids, chrismas for the kids, got to do the family shop with the kids, bigger car for the kids, 5 deroos for the kids protect the kids from the internet, the world.

If parents just behaved in a rational fashion, oh how much simpler the future of everything would be.
52
20/12/2020 13:28:47 6 13
bbc
Yes, it’s just parents the problem. Are you for real?. The problem is the hysterical ‘worried well’ who have been frothing at the mouth for another Lockdown for months. Combined with the frenzied media and usual rubbish on social media it’s a cocktail for irrational thinking.
21
20/12/2020 13:21:24 254 117
bbc
What's the point of Starmer holding a press conference? It's dead easy to say " I would do it differently". He's holds no responsibility or decision making powers. May have in 4 years, but until then his opinion is zero.
53
20/12/2020 13:29:27 143 197
bbc
In the same way that your opinion is zero.

Why do you post on here?
88
20/12/2020 13:37:53 52 17
bbc
As is yours. In fact, yours is less than zero, since at least Ian J has expressed an opinion on the subject at hand, whereas you are just trolling.

Grow up and get a life.
90
20/12/2020 13:38:16 20 1
bbc
As are all opinions on here
155
Jay
20/12/2020 13:53:10 12 6
bbc
Why do you? Did your mother mother not tell you, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.
167
20/12/2020 13:54:31 15 6
bbc
He’s entitled to his opinion but yours is clearly as pointless as his if you have that attitude !!
193
20/12/2020 13:58:25 9 2
bbc
His opinion is equally as valid as yours, so if his is zero, so must yours be.
262
20/12/2020 14:09:14 2 0
bbc
Why does anyone.
318
20/12/2020 14:19:10 0 13
bbc
This Government has lost control and the public confidence. It is now flailing around trying to find solutions based on one-sided scientific evidence that pays no heed to the decimation it's causing to public finances, jobs, long-term investment and people's mental health. Scientists don't give a toss about any of that. They are one-trick ponies oblivious to the carnage they are causing.
662
20/12/2020 15:16:34 4 0
bbc
Because hes got an opinion, just because you don't like it doesn't mean he cant have one...
741
20/12/2020 15:31:10 3 0
bbc
why did you reply?
854
20/12/2020 15:57:12 1 0
bbc
Rude!
His opinion is as valid as anyone else’s!
859
20/12/2020 15:59:00 2 0
bbc
The irony in YOUR comment - lol.....

Not the brightest......
42
20/12/2020 13:21:34 10 5
bbc
2 billion lost by shops shutting 2 billion more made on on line shopping
54
20/12/2020 13:29:37 6 2
bbc
Not strictly true. In person I am far more inclined to impulse purchases than online, as well as a rest in a cafe with coffee and cake.
21
20/12/2020 13:21:24 254 117
bbc
What's the point of Starmer holding a press conference? It's dead easy to say " I would do it differently". He's holds no responsibility or decision making powers. May have in 4 years, but until then his opinion is zero.
55
20/12/2020 13:29:37 54 39
bbc
Agreed, Starmer is just playing politics with this looking for any and every chance to try and paint Boris and the Govt. as incompetent even when they are doing their best to get the balance between restrictions and freedom. Boris didn't leave this decision 'too late', it may be inconvenient for some but the full extent/risk of this wasn't known until Friday.
80
20/12/2020 13:35:56 44 43
bbc
What because he told you they didn't know till Friday? When scientists had been saying the opposite for weeks? You enjoy the lies and deceit from the corrupt tories and think they're doing a good job. Even a primary school child has more common sense than Boris. It's also starmers job to "play" politics. He is after all the opposition leader, but if you want a one party system. Move to China.
197
20/12/2020 13:58:50 6 11
bbc
What a load of rubbish. even i saw this coming several weeks ago.
320
20/12/2020 14:19:18 2 8
bbc
No one has to "try" and paint Boris and the govt. as incompetent, it's self evident.
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DG
20/12/2020 14:38:10 1 4
bbc
Nonsense, the figures have been available for all to see. Just because you haven't looked at them yourself and are happy to believe what you are told doesn't make that reality. 4 week lockdown only slowed growth, we needed more than that to have an impact, but it was promised that it would end on Dec 2nd no matter what, even though it was clear numbers would rise again immediately after.
461
JPK
20/12/2020 14:42:58 6 3
bbc
Nobody needs to paint this government as incompetent.
590
20/12/2020 15:04:13 3 2
bbc
This new strain appeared in September, four months ago
I’ve seen slugs move quicker
760
20/12/2020 15:35:01 1 1
bbc
And yet the numbers were being tracked all thru lockdown & the Health Secretary boasted his knowledge of a new variant on 14th
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/new-covid-variant-what-it-means-when-a-virus-changes_uk_5fd789bec5b62f31c1ff2461
847
20/12/2020 15:55:31 0 0
bbc
Well said in fact Blair sent us into war nobody wanted Labour Party never win another election Tory blue here to stay????????
878
20/12/2020 16:03:25 0 1
bbc
Idiotic post.Mr Starmer is a politician. Do you expect him to be a consultant physician?
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PCS
20/12/2020 13:29:48 6 10
bbc
And the smart money will fleece UK Tax Payer, then kick the employee when they are down! Did you know that GCQH (I switched the letters, as it would flag up) has a mole (spy) inside top echelon ranks in China, they knew about covid19 1st Sep 2019, PS Boris Inc. knew about new mutant version on 1st Sep 2020. Hope Scotland show a pair and close the border as per New Zealand.
126
20/12/2020 13:46:47 1 0
bbc
You mean GCHQ? There, said it for you.
There were already mutations months and months ago ... that's what viruses do.

Any other pearls of non-wisdom?
154
20/12/2020 13:53:01 0 0
bbc
And you know that because Harvey your special Rabbit friend told you that in the mirror?
162
20/12/2020 13:47:10 0 1
bbc
Switching letters won't stop it flagging, the search algorithm has four layers of reverse complexity as well as built AI for this very circumstance. Where I live moles are often harmful to the bowling green, but on one occasion they ate through the underground cables linking Cheltenham with Vladivostock.
43
20/12/2020 13:26:12 184 63
bbc
Unfortunately it’s a significant minority of people in the UK to blame, too thick to follow basic guidelines. Those selfish idiots scurrying out of London last night will just bring this new strain of the virus to the rest of the UK and yet they had the audacity to point the finger at northerners being irresponsible! Thanks London.
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20/12/2020 13:30:45 97 50
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Totally agree, the tier 4 should have been imposed immediately to stop these irresponsible idiots spreading the new strain, just so they can enjoy a few days. That’s just totally selfish, but hey what do you expect from the young these days, it’s just about me,me, me .?????????? the lot of them.
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20/12/2020 13:37:14 23 3
bbc
It's not just the young who are me me me, it is across all ages.

Don't forget some of those travelling were workers and shoppers who don't live in London... not all selfish.
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Pam
20/12/2020 14:05:16 26 0
bbc
I don't think it is just young people!
394
20/12/2020 14:31:03 3 2
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Just like you. Take a good look at yourself for a change, then hopefully you will realise that you are NOT quite so perfect after all.
541
20/12/2020 14:56:21 2 7
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What's selfish is those who are vulnerable are not shielding themselves from catching a virus that can be deadly for them. These selfish people are the ones that get ill, take up hospital space and put a huge strain on the NHS.
543
20/12/2020 14:56:52 4 1
bbc
Possibly a lot were people who work in London but live elsewhere.
611
20/12/2020 15:07:04 2 1
bbc
What makes you think they were all young. Older people are equally irresponsible in my experience.
831
20/12/2020 15:50:34 0 0
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A bit yes but the government guidelines only reduce the chances of transmitting the virus, they don't eliminate it. Following the guidance does not mean that you wont get the virus. Moreover the guidance isn't perfect. I'm not excusing the people exploiting the gap in the rules to get out of London yesterday, but it isn't only rule breakers and benders who are transmitting the virus.
974
20/12/2020 16:18:54 1 1
bbc
I hope it gets brought all over the country, the sooner we've all had it, recovered from the ensuing sniffles and developed immunity the better.
20/12/2020 19:34:32 0 0
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this whole thing smells a bit fishy to me. not irresponsible its normal behaviour. honey monster should have shut down rail system first.
TV
20/12/2020 20:28:40 1 0
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Utter rubbish. People of ALL ages are doing what they need to do. Not only have we been messed about about by incompetent Eton boys now the high and mighty forumites belittle people they don't even know... Get a life instead of being jealous of people that do!
21/12/2020 08:35:25 0 0
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It wasn't just young people fleeing London on Saturday.
21/12/2020 11:45:24 0 0
bbc
Those young were probably heading off to see their old parents. Boris knew about this strain in September but the pigs had to be fed!
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20/12/2020 13:16:17 16 24
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Johnson - the grinch who stole Christmas, in spite of 2 days before saying it would be "inhumane" to cancel it.

Poor leadership ? Gaslighting ?
Will you be saying the same thing come Easter? No didn't think so just shut the @@@@ up and do what you are told do. This thing KILLS people what don't you understand about that. Removed
531
20/12/2020 14:55:11 1 0
bbc
Why don't you shut the f-up too ?
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ed1
20/12/2020 13:23:59 100 43
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"If everyone just followed the rules, things will go back to normal soon."

Karen, 2084
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20/12/2020 13:30:48 111 39
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Yep, just 3 weeks.

Just still summer.

Just a little bit longer now, just till the autumn.

Shame to spoil it now, it's just Christmas 2020.

Come on, it's only another Christmas, just one big push, after all, it's only 2 Christmases, just one more, you'll only missed 5 now, keep going... just another few years.
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20/12/2020 13:47:32 9 0
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Sadly, all too likely. The university where I work has no plans to open up before the end of this academic year (June 2021). One first year student rather wistfully asked me during Friday's lecture when he'd be able to come to listen to me in person... I had no answer for him.
520
20/12/2020 14:53:02 2 2
bbc
And so it will be until everyone realizes that the rules apply to them as well.
Don't blame the advisers and politicians for the people's stupidity.
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20/12/2020 13:21:09 13 12
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for gods sake stop whinging and whining about coves and the government. The latter doing its best, has to go with the flow and medical advice which is ever changing and developing. If the moaners could do better( which is easy in hindsight) stand for elective office yourself and see if you would appreciate this constant carping and digging. We are all in this together. HELP EACH OTHER and hang on.
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20/12/2020 13:31:06 3 1
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People would rather sit on their backsides and snipe though.
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20/12/2020 13:22:23 4 17
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Boris, a former columnist for a right-wing newspaper, needs to stop listening to columnists in right-wing newspapers and start listening to the scientists. The herd-immunity mob and conspiracy theorists are responsible for this mess, they've allowed the virus to run riot and now it has done what viruses do - mutated. Enjoy 2021, the NHS is going to be knee-deep in bodies.
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20/12/2020 13:33:46 3 3
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Pity it does not only infect the irresponsible selfish individuals,
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20/12/2020 13:43:38 0 1
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Well I hope you're one of them then.
See that guy that stands next to him in his announcements? Yes? Well he's a scientist
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bbc
This isn’t about the virus, it’s about Brexit. I live near a train line and I haven’t ever seen as many military trains as I have the last week. Dozens of them, 20 carriages long some of them. Removed
All heading to schools to prepare to test pupils... nothing to do with brexit ?? Removed
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PCS
20/12/2020 13:35:19 1 2
bbc
You'll be getting a visit from Special Branch, do you recall that WWII poster "The Enemy Is Listening" You might think that this HYS is anon, but GCHQ now know all you're family background details as far back as 1940's....
89
20/12/2020 13:37:56 2 1
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Fake news
Removed
929
20/12/2020 16:13:27 0 0
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I've been wondering this for a while, it'll be far more easier to blame the collapse on the economy and the need for keeping the country locked-down on a virus than to admit its because the Brexit talks have gone wonky.
Timing's perfect when you think about it, just as the press reveals that Brexit is about to go down the pan, the UK and only the UK find a new strain of Covid, the coincidence is..
42
20/12/2020 13:21:34 10 5
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2 billion lost by shops shutting 2 billion more made on on line shopping
63
20/12/2020 13:31:16 4 0
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Which means 2 billion lost by companies that pay tax and 2 billion made by companies that don't
483
20/12/2020 14:46:32 2 0
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So why not put a modest purchase tax on all online sales, then you pay if you buy. This would help contribute money to the Treasury, oh also allow 50% of this sales tax to be past on to the customer and 50% payable from the on
Online company based on where the sale occurred not based on where the cooperate company have located their headquarters to minimise tax.
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20/12/2020 13:28:16 9 9
bbc
Following the outbreak of the Wuhan virus, many people stopped buying from China. As the London variant begins to spread I wonder who people will blame?
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CJR
20/12/2020 13:31:37 9 4
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It was still made in China.
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20/12/2020 13:26:41 13 15
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Mr Speaker, will the right honourable gentleman, for uturn and broken promises, tender his resignation...
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CJR
20/12/2020 13:32:11 5 6
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Why? Your comment is not at all constructive.
74
20/12/2020 13:35:05 2 3
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I happen to think Johnson resigning is a very constructive comment...

He and his government have been woeful.
166
20/12/2020 13:54:05 1 0
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Sometimes you have to knock a building down before you can start re-building. That might be much more constructive!?!
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20/12/2020 13:20:46 14 14
bbc
A government of fools, ignoring both science and common sense, flip-flopping and U-turning so fast we all get dizzy.

Restrictions are imposed at random - they come down hard on activities which are pretty safe, while encouraging activities that cause the virus to spread.

The only consistency in the government's response is that it's been late.
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20/12/2020 13:32:41 3 4
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Not too late, just timely. Nobody has had to deal with something like this before, there are no easy decision. If those selfish people (are you one of them) who have pushed the limits on the restrictions, won't wear masks, meet indoors when told not to, etc. did as they were reasonably asked we would NOT be in this position. Govt. can advise, people need to take responsibility, GET IT
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20/12/2020 13:51:15 1 0
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agree,sadly think people like the op/would love to see army used to control people on the street.just so they can shout facist,dictators etc from every hys.leftism the problem.
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20/12/2020 13:19:22 13 11
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Unfortunately I would prefer this, then to the extra deaths in January, get over it it’s a slight inconvenience nothing more .
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20/12/2020 13:31:48 1 0
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What happen to the flu season that kills 10 to 15k per year poof it has disappeared.
68
20/12/2020 13:31:55 15 6
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Some in depth analysis of the latest figures would be helpful. I for one would like to know the prevalence of the virus plotted against population concentrations, age distributions and ethnic diversity and socio-economic factors, for the areas that are showing the highest rises. The restrictions and support then need to be placed on the specific areas where the virus is spreading.
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20/12/2020 13:36:05 17 22
bbc
Amateur armchair statistician talking utter testacles!
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20/12/2020 13:40:29 4 2
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I agree. Without the scientific and statistical facts there is no way to judge the validity or otherwise of government recommendations - and how else can we hold them to account?
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Bob
20/12/2020 14:21:34 0 0
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All of the data you are asking for is publicly available. You would need to put it together from multiple sources mind, but it is there.
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20/12/2020 13:21:49 22 3
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Don’t Sainsbury’s have a restriction on numbers, like the other supermarkets?
69
20/12/2020 13:33:00 11 2
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There was a guy with a clicker on the door but the real issue was the behaviour of the people once in.
504
20/12/2020 14:49:50 2 0
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What was he clicking, his heels?
This isn’t about the virus, it’s about Brexit. I live near a train line and I haven’t ever seen as many military trains as I have the last week. Dozens of them, 20 carriages long some of them. Removed
All heading to schools to prepare to test pupils... nothing to do with brexit ?? Removed
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M12
20/12/2020 13:37:02 2 3
bbc
Probably all heading for the streets to enforce these ridiculous new rules!
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20/12/2020 13:22:23 4 17
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Boris, a former columnist for a right-wing newspaper, needs to stop listening to columnists in right-wing newspapers and start listening to the scientists. The herd-immunity mob and conspiracy theorists are responsible for this mess, they've allowed the virus to run riot and now it has done what viruses do - mutated. Enjoy 2021, the NHS is going to be knee-deep in bodies.
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CJR
20/12/2020 13:33:46 3 3
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Pity it does not only infect the irresponsible selfish individuals,
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20/12/2020 13:24:06 6 3
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Deplorable. Damnable. If I was the shop manager I would have done a Tom Cruise and barred them from the premises.
72
20/12/2020 13:33:57 3 1
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I wish I’d thought of that! ??
73
20/12/2020 13:34:38 24 17
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Friday - we're in tier 2
Saturday - we're in tier 3
Sunday - we're in tier 4

Hancock has admitted that the government has let the virus run out of control, I put it to him that the virus has let the government run out of control.

#pathetic
86
20/12/2020 13:37:23 16 7
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Nobody from any political party has a clue what to do or how to do it
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20/12/2020 13:40:02 5 6
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No he hasn't, he said it was out of control. The Govt. advise and selfish people (as per those at the train stations last night) ignore it, that's what has made it out of control. Look at Cornwall, Bristol and other areas where people have shown personal responsibility, they have less restrictions. It's not the Govt. at fault but those who choose to put their own interests before others, shameful
940
20/12/2020 16:14:50 2 0
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The only things running out of control are BJ and Hancock, over a virus that really isn't that deadly.
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CJR
20/12/2020 13:32:11 5 6
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Why? Your comment is not at all constructive.
74
20/12/2020 13:35:05 2 3
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I happen to think Johnson resigning is a very constructive comment...

He and his government have been woeful.
145
20/12/2020 13:50:56 0 1
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And what would you have done? shut everything for another 3 months and bankrupt the country or have no precautions at all?
Please do enlighten us all with your expertise
Time for national government now. Johnson has failed. We all know he’s proud of his efforts and he is planning to stick with the tier system going forward. The swivel eyed erg tories need to be driven out of Westminster one nasty never at a time. A blight on this great country Removed
I had hoped Starmer would breath fresh life into the Labour Party and improve British Politics , but it looks like he’s just more of the same. British politics is a total shambles with zero credibility. Removed
91
20/12/2020 13:38:29 3 1
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More of the same of what... he is nothing like Corbyn.
93
20/12/2020 13:38:43 2 2
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Your pathetic deflection tactics are making you look very silly.

Just saying....
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20/12/2020 13:39:51 0 2
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Always said they should have gone with Benn.
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20/12/2020 13:49:58 0 0
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Part Nonsense...he is not the same as the Tory cabinet.
But today’s politicians are not a patch on their predecessors....the public and media would not have put up with someone as inept as Boris Johnson in the past.
This isn’t about the virus, it’s about Brexit. I live near a train line and I haven’t ever seen as many military trains as I have the last week. Dozens of them, 20 carriages long some of them. Removed
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PCS
20/12/2020 13:35:19 1 2
bbc
You'll be getting a visit from Special Branch, do you recall that WWII poster "The Enemy Is Listening" You might think that this HYS is anon, but GCHQ now know all you're family background details as far back as 1940's....
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ed1
20/12/2020 13:23:59 100 43
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"If everyone just followed the rules, things will go back to normal soon."

Karen, 2084
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20/12/2020 13:35:20 22 11
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It would be very different if this new strain started killing younger people in signifant numbers!
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20/12/2020 13:35:48 27 19
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The government is in a no win situation, dammed if they do and dammed if they don't, just as well that I do not run the county, no shops would be aloud to open only the emergency services moving & rationing, every one and every business would be paid, the country's debit would be paid for by a VAT increase and fuel duty increase, stop moaning and support the country.
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20/12/2020 13:43:53 13 21
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You’re right...,good job you don’t run the Country......
Stop moaning and enjoy the endless torture by a Government without a clue......yes, very sensible, that’s how you remove every incompetent Government isn’t it....
745
20/12/2020 15:31:36 2 0
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The Government are firmly to blame. 3 are not leading the country, they leak everything they are going to do to gauge public reaction to it. They are liars who are corrupt and inept. Due to that I'm not following any of their guidance.
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20/12/2020 13:29:37 54 39
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Agreed, Starmer is just playing politics with this looking for any and every chance to try and paint Boris and the Govt. as incompetent even when they are doing their best to get the balance between restrictions and freedom. Boris didn't leave this decision 'too late', it may be inconvenient for some but the full extent/risk of this wasn't known until Friday.
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20/12/2020 13:35:56 44 43
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What because he told you they didn't know till Friday? When scientists had been saying the opposite for weeks? You enjoy the lies and deceit from the corrupt tories and think they're doing a good job. Even a primary school child has more common sense than Boris. It's also starmers job to "play" politics. He is after all the opposition leader, but if you want a one party system. Move to China.
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20/12/2020 13:55:22 15 5
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Peter - "When scientists had been saying the opposite for weeks?"

Actually the concensus from the scientific advisory panel was they didn't have enough date to come to an informed conclusion.

Boris paniced seeing the figures (I don't really blame him tbh), but to pretend there is some mythical settled scientific concensus on action is completely disengenous.

In reality no one really knows.
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20/12/2020 13:31:55 15 6
bbc
Some in depth analysis of the latest figures would be helpful. I for one would like to know the prevalence of the virus plotted against population concentrations, age distributions and ethnic diversity and socio-economic factors, for the areas that are showing the highest rises. The restrictions and support then need to be placed on the specific areas where the virus is spreading.
81
20/12/2020 13:36:05 17 22
bbc
Amateur armchair statistician talking utter testacles!
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20/12/2020 13:28:18 3 0
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If I had any faith that my online food shopping order would be fulfilled on Wednesday when it arrives, I would never have just made a rare trip out to get a turkey crown. Mostly ok but generally a fail at Christmas. Then there’s Hermes... pot luck whether your order arrives at all!! ?? online shopping is ok but it doesn’t always work!
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20/12/2020 13:36:20 1 1
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Well look on the bright side, you can afford to buy food.
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20/12/2020 13:39:32 2 0
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I like your glass half full attitude ????
All heading to schools to prepare to test pupils... nothing to do with brexit ?? Removed
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M12
20/12/2020 13:37:02 2 3
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Probably all heading for the streets to enforce these ridiculous new rules!
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20/12/2020 13:39:18 1 0
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Or that. Nobody knows.
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20/12/2020 13:41:27 1 2
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Hopefully to lock the irresponsible yobs like yourself who don't believe in preventative measures.
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20/12/2020 13:37:05 18 3
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Interesting that the ' Range ' store on the retail park near me which used to just sell furnishings etc now had a single ' Iceland ' isle ??...
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20/12/2020 15:04:12 2 0
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Also the Marks and Spencer aisle in some WH Smiths stores.
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20/12/2020 13:30:45 97 50
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Totally agree, the tier 4 should have been imposed immediately to stop these irresponsible idiots spreading the new strain, just so they can enjoy a few days. That’s just totally selfish, but hey what do you expect from the young these days, it’s just about me,me, me .?????????? the lot of them.
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20/12/2020 13:37:14 23 3
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It's not just the young who are me me me, it is across all ages.

Don't forget some of those travelling were workers and shoppers who don't live in London... not all selfish.
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20/12/2020 13:34:38 24 17
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Friday - we're in tier 2
Saturday - we're in tier 3
Sunday - we're in tier 4

Hancock has admitted that the government has let the virus run out of control, I put it to him that the virus has let the government run out of control.

#pathetic
86
20/12/2020 13:37:23 16 7
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Nobody from any political party has a clue what to do or how to do it
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20/12/2020 13:39:24 5 5
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Imaging what a shambles we'd be in if Labour were in. Doesn't bear thinking about.
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20/12/2020 14:08:16 1 0
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It is a l so the same throughout most of Europe.
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20/12/2020 13:25:18 5 7
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I do all my shopping in Oxfordshire,my local is in Oxfordshire,my kids go to school in Oxfordshire,i work in Oxfordshire. The reason West Berkshire is in Tier 4 is mainly down to Slough,(48 miles away) and Reading 25 miles away. It takes me 15 minutes to WALK to my local pub,but i'm banned.I can drive to work in Oxfordshire,but am banned from stopping en-route,madness.
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20/12/2020 13:37:29 2 1
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Yes.
There should be special rules for saddletramp.
And for me.
And for Ron.
And for Beryl.
And for....ad inf.
Don't be daft.
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20/12/2020 13:29:27 143 197
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In the same way that your opinion is zero.

Why do you post on here?
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20/12/2020 13:37:53 52 17
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As is yours. In fact, yours is less than zero, since at least Ian J has expressed an opinion on the subject at hand, whereas you are just trolling.

Grow up and get a life.
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20/12/2020 13:52:50 8 16
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Oh the sweet irony...... LOLtroll
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20/12/2020 15:25:47 0 1
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Love it. Trolls trolling trolls. And now me trolling the trolls that trolled the trolls.
I wait to be trolled.??
This isn’t about the virus, it’s about Brexit. I live near a train line and I haven’t ever seen as many military trains as I have the last week. Dozens of them, 20 carriages long some of them. Removed
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20/12/2020 13:37:56 2 1
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Fake news
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20/12/2020 13:29:27 143 197
bbc
In the same way that your opinion is zero.

Why do you post on here?
90
20/12/2020 13:38:16 20 1
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As are all opinions on here
I had hoped Starmer would breath fresh life into the Labour Party and improve British Politics , but it looks like he’s just more of the same. British politics is a total shambles with zero credibility. Removed
91
20/12/2020 13:38:29 3 1
bbc
More of the same of what... he is nothing like Corbyn.
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20/12/2020 13:49:34 2 0
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I am making an observation about British politics in general not a particular party
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20/12/2020 13:38:41 135 11
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Rather than making sweeping generalisations about what a business actuallys sells, it would be better to create a set of standards that would make an establishment "covid-safe" and allow anyone who meets those standards to open.
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20/12/2020 13:40:49 60 13
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Too sensible for this lot.....
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20/12/2020 13:44:55 9 0
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It ends up an exercise on paper as anyone who currently works at supposedly COVID secure business knows
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20/12/2020 13:49:21 4 7
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Who’s saying hotels, restaurants and cafes have not made themselves Covid safe?

These hospitality venues have probably done more than anybody else. I certainly felt much safer in these places than at home!

Now I see people sitting all over the place in shopping malls, with nobody to clean after them.

This government is beyond a joke!

CLOWNS CONS CORRUPTION
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20/12/2020 14:03:58 2 1
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On that basis all places of learning would be closed..
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Bob
20/12/2020 14:04:59 1 1
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And how do you police that? Click and collect is essentially doing just that anyway.
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20/12/2020 14:20:04 7 2
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I completely agree.

If I walk into a shop which sells both food and clothes, what difference does it make whether I buy a cake or a shirt? I'm still in the same shop!

Bringing back one-way systems/restricting customer entry would be far better. My local supermarket is full of unmasked customers, crowding together in groups & chatting instead of shopping, that social distancing is impossible.
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ADS
20/12/2020 14:24:40 3 5
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COVID-19 plus variant No1 of 1,000,000 continues to spread and in fact spread at an even higher rate. Is the strategy of lockdown not a loosing battle? Why not increase NHS capacity and capability and allow businesses to open. Perhaps this way and with the help of vaccinations we reach herd immunity quicker?
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20/12/2020 15:00:45 0 7
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Pubs have invested the money to stay open but HMG (actually the scientists & doctors who don't want us to drink anything but their 'snake-oil' cures) keep them shut. Screw this lockdown, screw this government. This is government by diktat. We should be being bombed by the US at the moment if we were a 3rd world Islamic country. Oh sorry we are!!!. Merry Xmas BBC moderators!
651
20/12/2020 15:14:55 3 2
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Unfortunately Covidiots are exceptions to all conformity.
It's this badge wearing exceptionalism that is spreading the virus.
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20/12/2020 15:48:11 2 1
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That could mean most supermarkets and other shops could close.
At the moment "covid-secure" seems to consist of putting up a few posters and stickers saying people should wear masks and socially distance, while inside too many don't bother.
Tesco had easy to follow one-way system during 1st lockdown, but half of people didn't follow. People told shop alone, but that ignored.
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20/12/2020 16:02:09 1 0
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There is no such thing as a 100% covid safe environment. Retailers do their best but staff and customers get tired and forget to distance or don’t follow the rules. That’s why we only open essential retail when covid is at its worst.
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20/12/2020 16:21:38 1 0
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No no no. It's about reducing interactions and until the general public can be trusted to social distance outside a shop why do you want them inside? Went to Sainsbury's today and STILL there are people not wearing masks or having them just over their mouth.
20/12/2020 16:39:38 1 0
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they tried that with restaurants, encouraging owners to spend thousands on preventive screens etc. then closed them anyway.
20/12/2020 16:45:27 0 0
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Totally agree Megan. In fact I would extend that sentiment to any other business, including hospitality, at this time. Let's face it, our Government needs the tax revenue, and we need our lives back. Failure to do this will decimate our economy beyond recognition.
xlr
20/12/2020 22:00:30 0 0
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Two words:

Scotch Egg
21/12/2020 17:06:15 0 0
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Its not just about making a business "covid safe", its also about getting the customers to behave with common sense and respect to others.

Making the business safe is quite readily achievable although there is likely a significant reduction in efficiency and so profitability.

Good luck on the common sense and respect to others.
I had hoped Starmer would breath fresh life into the Labour Party and improve British Politics , but it looks like he’s just more of the same. British politics is a total shambles with zero credibility. Removed
93
20/12/2020 13:38:43 2 2
bbc
Your pathetic deflection tactics are making you look very silly.

Just saying....
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20/12/2020 13:47:54 4 0
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I’d worry about the drivel you post first pal , as for deflection who am I defending ? You assume to much , simply put your mouth is quicker than your brain
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20/12/2020 13:12:50 19 34
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Looks like Kier Starmer got it right AGAIN! When will Bozo learn to put country before petty politics and actually listen to some sane advice?
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20/12/2020 13:38:49 5 0
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Boris should have invited him to take part in the Covid Cobra meetings, let him see the advice given for himself.
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ed1
20/12/2020 13:23:59 100 43
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"If everyone just followed the rules, things will go back to normal soon."

Karen, 2084
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M12
20/12/2020 13:39:17 29 12
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Every lock down and draconian rule we’ve had has been to stop us getting to where we are now!!

Lockdowns don’t work!!
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20/12/2020 13:48:32 23 22
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Lockdowns do work. Look outside the UK.

Lockdowns haven't worked in the UK because of a selfish ignorant minority who have not followed the basic guidance of socially distancing, face cover wearing, and hand washing.

Then, there's the misinformation, spouted by fifth columnists, of which I hope you aren't one...
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You are 100% correct, but the highly incompetent, totally insane government do not give a toss about the severe damage they have caused to people's livelihoods and jobs.

The worst UK government in modern history, and need to be got rid of.
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20/12/2020 14:10:04 5 6
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If you look at the scenes in London yesterday, no wonder we can't get the numbers down. Disgusting behaviour, trying to flee and spread the new variant everywhere. Need to rename London Cowardsville.
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20/12/2020 13:37:02 2 3
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Probably all heading for the streets to enforce these ridiculous new rules!
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20/12/2020 13:39:18 1 0
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Or that. Nobody knows.
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20/12/2020 13:37:23 16 7
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Nobody from any political party has a clue what to do or how to do it
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20/12/2020 13:39:24 5 5
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Imaging what a shambles we'd be in if Labour were in. Doesn't bear thinking about.
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20/12/2020 13:36:20 1 1
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Well look on the bright side, you can afford to buy food.
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20/12/2020 13:39:32 2 0
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I like your glass half full attitude ????
I had hoped Starmer would breath fresh life into the Labour Party and improve British Politics , but it looks like he’s just more of the same. British politics is a total shambles with zero credibility. Removed
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20/12/2020 13:39:51 0 2
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Always said they should have gone with Benn.
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20/12/2020 13:42:07 1 0
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would that be Tony, Hilary, or just plain Mister?
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20/12/2020 14:39:19 0 0
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But he would have just "wedged" away at the situation.
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20/12/2020 13:34:38 24 17
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Friday - we're in tier 2
Saturday - we're in tier 3
Sunday - we're in tier 4

Hancock has admitted that the government has let the virus run out of control, I put it to him that the virus has let the government run out of control.

#pathetic
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20/12/2020 13:40:02 5 6
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No he hasn't, he said it was out of control. The Govt. advise and selfish people (as per those at the train stations last night) ignore it, that's what has made it out of control. Look at Cornwall, Bristol and other areas where people have shown personal responsibility, they have less restrictions. It's not the Govt. at fault but those who choose to put their own interests before others, shameful
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20/12/2020 13:43:40 6 4
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So when the government isn't able to control the situation it's the fault of the populus is it?

So ff my dog bit you it's not my fault????

Get real.