Costello, Bunce & Warrington review 2020
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The BBC Radio 5 Live boxing team discuss the fighters and fights which stood out over the past 12 months.
Agreed - I'd like Josh to subscribe to a year round VADA contract like Joshua, Whyte & Katie Taylor.
This includes pre-fight training camp random VADA testing for Josh and his opponent before any future fight.
This isn't guaranteed to protect Josh from the many US dopers but it's the best that can currently be done.
Josh should ask Top Rank to pay the $50,000 annual fee - Arum can afford it.
This includes pre-fight training camp random VADA testing for Josh and his opponent before any future fight.
This isn't guaranteed to protect Josh from the many US dopers but it's the best that can currently be done.
Josh should ask Top Rank to pay the $50,000 annual fee - Arum can afford it.
Some bright spots in a pretty poor year because of the pandemic.
Best KO is probably Tank Davis turning Leo Santa Cruz’s lights out - with an honourable mention for Joshua’s final KO punch against Pulev.
Looking forward to better things to come for boxing, indeed everything & everyone, in 2021 ??.
Best KO is probably Tank Davis turning Leo Santa Cruz’s lights out - with an honourable mention for Joshua’s final KO punch against Pulev.
Looking forward to better things to come for boxing, indeed everything & everyone, in 2021 ??.
some great moments from this year after a a bad year for all of us.
tyson fury had a fantastic fight and made wilder look a poor fighter and joshua clearly put pulev away with very little trouble so the cant wait for the fight to happen.
great wins for katie taylor a real tough fighter and always looks in great condition.lets hope for fans to back back next year to live fights.
tyson fury had a fantastic fight and made wilder look a poor fighter and joshua clearly put pulev away with very little trouble so the cant wait for the fight to happen.
great wins for katie taylor a real tough fighter and always looks in great condition.lets hope for fans to back back next year to live fights.
Letting Joshua regularly and repeatedly bounce bursts of four or five uppercut after uppercut off his chin, proved that Pulev was no-longer even a top-20 opponent. Wilder was, and remains one.
What does fighter of the year even mean? Different fight types (Judo, MMA, Boxing etc.) within same type, different weight classes. No to mention the male and female categories. So calling one fighter "Fighter of the Year" takes away from the performance and achievements of others in different categories. So in my opinion this title is useless and meaningless to say the least.
What does fighter of the year even mean? Different fight types (Judo, MMA, Boxing etc.) within same type, different weight classes. No to mention the male and female categories. So calling one fighter "Fighter of the Year" takes away from the performance and achievements of others in different categories. So in my opinion this title is useless and meaningless to say the least.
I watch most televised world championship fights at all weights and I cannot disagree with the selections given. Costello & Bunce certainly know their stuff. It's a shame Covid has got in the way of everything but pro boxing has carried on regardless and all the credit to those who have made it happen.
Some bright spots in a pretty poor year because of the pandemic.
Best KO is probably Tank Davis turning Leo Santa Cruz’s lights out - with an honourable mention for Joshua’s final KO punch against Pulev.
Looking forward to better things to come for boxing, indeed everything & everyone, in 2021 ??.
Best KO is probably Tank Davis turning Leo Santa Cruz’s lights out - with an honourable mention for Joshua’s final KO punch against Pulev.
Looking forward to better things to come for boxing, indeed everything & everyone, in 2021 ??.
some great moments from this year after a a bad year for all of us.
tyson fury had a fantastic fight and made wilder look a poor fighter and joshua clearly put pulev away with very little trouble so the cant wait for the fight to happen.
great wins for katie taylor a real tough fighter and always looks in great condition.lets hope for fans to back back next year to live fights.
tyson fury had a fantastic fight and made wilder look a poor fighter and joshua clearly put pulev away with very little trouble so the cant wait for the fight to happen.
great wins for katie taylor a real tough fighter and always looks in great condition.lets hope for fans to back back next year to live fights.
Wilder has stilts for legs. Fair play to Fury for standing up to some of his punches and exposing Wilder for the windmilling amateur he is, but let's not pretend Wilder is a top heavyweight. He's just top-heavy!
Agreed - I'd like Josh to subscribe to a year round VADA contract like Joshua, Whyte & Katie Taylor.
This includes pre-fight training camp random VADA testing for Josh and his opponent before any future fight.
This isn't guaranteed to protect Josh from the many US dopers but it's the best that can currently be done.
Josh should ask Top Rank to pay the $50,000 annual fee - Arum can afford it.
This includes pre-fight training camp random VADA testing for Josh and his opponent before any future fight.
This isn't guaranteed to protect Josh from the many US dopers but it's the best that can currently be done.
Josh should ask Top Rank to pay the $50,000 annual fee - Arum can afford it.
call me old fashioned but women's boxing is undignified.
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To be fair they are actually quite good and deserve their credit and status in the sport, unlike say womens football where they get front page status despite the fact that goalkeepers still can't catch.
Also there aren't many dignified men's fighters either. Mayweather was the closest i'd say and he's done time and smacked his wife up. May I suggest snooker as an alternative?
Also there aren't many dignified men's fighters either. Mayweather was the closest i'd say and he's done time and smacked his wife up. May I suggest snooker as an alternative?
old fashioned.
What's most pleasing about SPOTY this year is hearing that Fury didn't even make top three.
Not quite the peoples' champion after all..... lol
Not quite the peoples' champion after all..... lol
Careful this is a HYS about boxing last year, you should save such comments for those SPOTY HYSs .....
Still waiting Beeb.
Still waiting Beeb.
In fairness I suspect Fury's fanbase probably did exactly as he asked and didn't bother with it.
Terrible year for sport though, as shown by the candidates (for all I think Stuart Broad is great!).
Terrible year for sport though, as shown by the candidates (for all I think Stuart Broad is great!).
Letting Joshua regularly and repeatedly bounce bursts of four or five uppercut after uppercut off his chin, proved that Pulev was no-longer even a top-20 opponent. Wilder was, and remains one.
What's most pleasing about SPOTY this year is hearing that Fury didn't even make top three.
Not quite the peoples' champion after all..... lol
Not quite the peoples' champion after all..... lol
call me old fashioned but women's boxing is undignified.
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To be fair they are actually quite good and deserve their credit and status in the sport, unlike say womens football where they get front page status despite the fact that goalkeepers still can't catch.
Also there aren't many dignified men's fighters either. Mayweather was the closest i'd say and he's done time and smacked his wife up. May I suggest snooker as an alternative?
Also there aren't many dignified men's fighters either. Mayweather was the closest i'd say and he's done time and smacked his wife up. May I suggest snooker as an alternative?
Not a bad year considering.
I agree with Ozzy - for me it’s Tank’s beautiful uppercut against Santa Cruz for Knockout of the year. He’d tried it a few times before that perfect slip of the straight right and landing on the button. I thought LSC was winning the fight up to that point as well.
Povetkins was superb but I’ll take Tank’s for the occasion and opposition.
Whack.
I agree with Ozzy - for me it’s Tank’s beautiful uppercut against Santa Cruz for Knockout of the year. He’d tried it a few times before that perfect slip of the straight right and landing on the button. I thought LSC was winning the fight up to that point as well.
Povetkins was superb but I’ll take Tank’s for the occasion and opposition.
Whack.
What's most pleasing about SPOTY this year is hearing that Fury didn't even make top three.
Not quite the peoples' champion after all..... lol
Not quite the peoples' champion after all..... lol
In fairness I suspect Fury's fanbase probably did exactly as he asked and didn't bother with it.
Terrible year for sport though, as shown by the candidates (for all I think Stuart Broad is great!).
Terrible year for sport though, as shown by the candidates (for all I think Stuart Broad is great!).
call me old fashioned but women's boxing is undignified.
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To be fair they are actually quite good and deserve their credit and status in the sport, unlike say womens football where they get front page status despite the fact that goalkeepers still can't catch.
Also there aren't many dignified men's fighters either. Mayweather was the closest i'd say and he's done time and smacked his wife up. May I suggest snooker as an alternative?
Also there aren't many dignified men's fighters either. Mayweather was the closest i'd say and he's done time and smacked his wife up. May I suggest snooker as an alternative?
And Fury is also most peoples sports personality of the year.
Except he lost in a landslide and didn't even make the top 3. AJ is 10x as popular as Fury, as you can tell from their PPV figures where AJ destroys Fury's numbers.
Fury's 'personality' is calculated and fake. When he starts spouting off it looks embarrassingly unnatural. Sorry Tyson but I'm not convinced.
Most people? Is this alternative facts day
call me old fashioned but women's boxing is undignified.
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Careful this is a HYS about boxing last year, you should save such comments for those SPOTY HYSs .....
Still waiting Beeb.
Still waiting Beeb.
Can't wait for Fury to knock Joshua out.
Or just slap him in his road man head for 12 rounds - a bigger Calzaghe v Lacy
AJ V Tyson has to happen in 2021 or boxing loses all credibility.
The heavyweight decision needs am undisputed champion now.
Let's have it.
We are sick of the games and politics and money grabbing.
Give us what we want Eddie. It's time
The heavyweight decision needs am undisputed champion now.
Let's have it.
We are sick of the games and politics and money grabbing.
Give us what we want Eddie. It's time
Eddie has put it off for as long as possibly, he doesn’t want to stop charging £24.95 for fighting bin men and McDonalds addicts but he’s in a corner now. His boy going to get smeshed and if you disagree, as Mr Money Mayweather says, you don’t know sh*t about boxing!
Boxing lost all credibility in 1983, when a two-bit hustler lost the election for WBA president and went off in a huff to form his own governing body (now called the IBF), just so he could continue to receive back handers.
The subsequent farce in 1988, that saw the formation of the WBO, just emphasized the loss of credibility even further.
The subsequent farce in 1988, that saw the formation of the WBO, just emphasized the loss of credibility even further.
Fury will be obliterated by Joshua no doubt. He was put down by Cunningham and smashed around by unknowns. Yep he beat Wilder but Joshua isn't Wilder. Joshua can fight, he can box and has never been knocked out (he was counted out on his feet).
Joshua will KO Fury 9th round or before....and no amount of wild boar will save Fury
Joshua will KO Fury 9th round or before....and no amount of wild boar will save Fury
Deluded, the knacker will take him out - sparko for Tony! Lights out kunti!
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No I agree, Joshua isn’t wilder. Doesn’t have that killer right hand. Nearly all Joshua’s knockouts are an accumulation of strikes rather than pure dynamite.
He gets hit far too much and you’d have to pick Wilder to KO him, many lesser punchers have had him chicken dancing.
Fury v AJ will be a good fight but Fury will win.
He gets hit far too much and you’d have to pick Wilder to KO him, many lesser punchers have had him chicken dancing.
Fury v AJ will be a good fight but Fury will win.
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Fury will be obliterated by Joshua no doubt. He was put down by Cunningham and smashed around by unknowns. Yep he beat Wilder but Joshua isn't Wilder. Joshua can fight, he can box and has never been knocked out (he was counted out on his feet).
Joshua will KO Fury 9th round or before....and no amount of wild boar will save Fury
Joshua will KO Fury 9th round or before....and no amount of wild boar will save Fury
Fury will be obliterated by Joshua no doubt. He was put down by Cunningham and smashed around by unknowns. Yep he beat Wilder but Joshua isn't Wilder. Joshua can fight, he can box and has never been knocked out (he was counted out on his feet).
Joshua will KO Fury 9th round or before....and no amount of wild boar will save Fury
Joshua will KO Fury 9th round or before....and no amount of wild boar will save Fury
No I agree, Joshua isn’t wilder. Doesn’t have that killer right hand. Nearly all Joshua’s knockouts are an accumulation of strikes rather than pure dynamite.
He gets hit far too much and you’d have to pick Wilder to KO him, many lesser punchers have had him chicken dancing.
Fury v AJ will be a good fight but Fury will win.
He gets hit far too much and you’d have to pick Wilder to KO him, many lesser punchers have had him chicken dancing.
Fury v AJ will be a good fight but Fury will win.
AJ V Tyson has to happen in 2021 or boxing loses all credibility.
The heavyweight decision needs am undisputed champion now.
Let's have it.
We are sick of the games and politics and money grabbing.
Give us what we want Eddie. It's time
The heavyweight decision needs am undisputed champion now.
Let's have it.
We are sick of the games and politics and money grabbing.
Give us what we want Eddie. It's time
Can't wait for Fury to knock Joshua out.
For me a fighter beats a boxer as surely as night follows day. Joshua is a modern day Bruno, no movement lumbering and predictable. On the other hand Fury is not elegant but a fighter with natural instincts and will be too big for Joshua to handle. For me, if it happens it's all over for Joshua inside 7 rounds.
I agree and feel AJ is too slow to hit fury. Feel fury moves too well for AJ who has only boxed smaller, older or fatter guys. However in the HW division with a guy who can hit like AJ never say never. I don’t mind either guy so interested to see and hope it happens (on UK soil hopefully). Do edge to Fury though and believe he will be too good
For me a fighter beats a boxer as surely as night follows day. Joshua is a modern day Bruno, no movement lumbering and predictable. On the other hand Fury is not elegant but a fighter with natural instincts and will be too big for Joshua to handle. For me, if it happens it's all over for Joshua inside 7 rounds.
I agree and feel AJ is too slow to hit fury. Feel fury moves too well for AJ who has only boxed smaller, older or fatter guys. However in the HW division with a guy who can hit like AJ never say never. I don’t mind either guy so interested to see and hope it happens (on UK soil hopefully). Do edge to Fury though and believe he will be too good
Fury will be obliterated by Joshua no doubt. He was put down by Cunningham and smashed around by unknowns. Yep he beat Wilder but Joshua isn't Wilder. Joshua can fight, he can box and has never been knocked out (he was counted out on his feet).
Joshua will KO Fury 9th round or before....and no amount of wild boar will save Fury
Joshua will KO Fury 9th round or before....and no amount of wild boar will save Fury
I’m in general disagreement with all the relative love for Fury over Joshua. Fury ran and grabbed vs Klitschko, a very inexperienced Joshua got put down but then knocked him out. I think beyond the one punch power Wilder is useless. So who has Fury got on his resume? Joshua with much less experience has a superior resume and I believe he will knock Fury out who has been put down by softer punchers
Not bad points but I would say WK was gone and had had a long time out by the time AJ got him. He did also lose to Ruiz who took the fight at short notice. Pulev, Povetkin, takkam all old. Parker decent win but lost again since and no great shakes. Wilder was a formidable champ in his prime and WK on a long winning run when fury beat them. That said I do like AJ as well. Both deserve respect
Joshua’s suspect chin is also debatable. He took a lot of Povetkins shots. Also took plenty from Klitschko. Just so happens he got a surprise shot to the top of his head and ear and that scrambled his senses against Ruiz. That can happen and doesn’t make him chinny. Chinny is being decked by Steve Cunningham and almost being put to sleep by Wilder and being given longer than 10 to recover.
If a slap upside his head caused him problems against Ruiz then it's lights out and goodnight against Fury which will come as no surprise to anyone.
Longer than ten seconds maybe but it is not a ten second count, never has been. It is to the referees count of Ten.
I’m in general disagreement with all the relative love for Fury over Joshua. Fury ran and grabbed vs Klitschko, a very inexperienced Joshua got put down but then knocked him out. I think beyond the one punch power Wilder is useless. So who has Fury got on his resume? Joshua with much less experience has a superior resume and I believe he will knock Fury out who has been put down by softer punchers
Not bad points but I would say WK was gone and had had a long time out by the time AJ got him. He did also lose to Ruiz who took the fight at short notice. Pulev, Povetkin, takkam all old. Parker decent win but lost again since and no great shakes. Wilder was a formidable champ in his prime and WK on a long winning run when fury beat them. That said I do like AJ as well. Both deserve respect
Good post. Apart the so called Boogy-Man Ortiz who is around 50 Wilder has beaten nobody good in my view. A completely padded record. Fury also had a big struggle against Wallin.
Credit to Fury for running, jabbing and grabbing Klitchko to a points win and the Wilder fight but that’s his resume there. Everyone else on Fury record is a nobody or bang average.
Credit to Fury for running, jabbing and grabbing Klitchko to a points win and the Wilder fight but that’s his resume there. Everyone else on Fury record is a nobody or bang average.
Joshua’s suspect chin is also debatable. He took a lot of Povetkins shots. Also took plenty from Klitschko. Just so happens he got a surprise shot to the top of his head and ear and that scrambled his senses against Ruiz. That can happen and doesn’t make him chinny. Chinny is being decked by Steve Cunningham and almost being put to sleep by Wilder and being given longer than 10 to recover.
All of a sudden Fury is a power puncher because he knocked down chicken legs Wilder and through an accumulation (not a single shot) of punishment his corner threw in the towel. Fury has never been a KO artist
Not bad points but I would say WK was gone and had had a long time out by the time AJ got him. He did also lose to Ruiz who took the fight at short notice. Pulev, Povetkin, takkam all old. Parker decent win but lost again since and no great shakes. Wilder was a formidable champ in his prime and WK on a long winning run when fury beat them. That said I do like AJ as well. Both deserve respect
Good post. Apart the so called Boogy-Man Ortiz who is around 50 Wilder has beaten nobody good in my view. A completely padded record. Fury also had a big struggle against Wallin.
Credit to Fury for running, jabbing and grabbing Klitchko to a points win and the Wilder fight but that’s his resume there. Everyone else on Fury record is a nobody or bang average.
Credit to Fury for running, jabbing and grabbing Klitchko to a points win and the Wilder fight but that’s his resume there. Everyone else on Fury record is a nobody or bang average.
Not bad points but I would say WK was gone and had had a long time out by the time AJ got him. He did also lose to Ruiz who took the fight at short notice. Pulev, Povetkin, takkam all old. Parker decent win but lost again since and no great shakes. Wilder was a formidable champ in his prime and WK on a long winning run when fury beat them. That said I do like AJ as well. Both deserve respect
Yeah that’s fair and these things can happen in the HW game. I actually agree fury has been very average at time, lucky even. I remember him getting a very suspect decision against steve Cunningham in his early days. I think he’s a different fighter now to then though and think he has too much movement for AJ. As mentioned I like both and just hope it happens!
The Steve Cunningham fight actually changed the way the BBBC ran fights and moved to judges rather than the refs decision if I remember rightly.
If a slap upside his head caused him problems against Ruiz then it's lights out and goodnight against Fury which will come as no surprise to anyone.
Yeah that’s fair and these things can happen in the HW game. I actually agree fury has been very average at time, lucky even. I remember him getting a very suspect decision against steve Cunningham in his early days. I think he’s a different fighter now to then though and think he has too much movement for AJ. As mentioned I like both and just hope it happens!
Fury KO'd Steve Cunningham in the 7th - very similar to the job he did on Wilder in fact.
So you need to check your facts and recollections
I think you are thinking of another fight very early in his career vs McDermott.
So you need to check your facts and recollections
I think you are thinking of another fight very early in his career vs McDermott.
Not so sure that the confidence of those predicting Fury giving Joshua some schooling, is so well placed. AJ is a better fighter than many of you seem to think and I suspect that the bout will be a very tight affair.
I agree, AJ is a much better fighter then what people this. He has very good boxing skills and power.
But Fury will beat him because of his Elite boxing skills and unpredictablility
But Fury will beat him because of his Elite boxing skills and unpredictablility
Joshua’s suspect chin is also debatable. He took a lot of Povetkins shots. Also took plenty from Klitschko. Just so happens he got a surprise shot to the top of his head and ear and that scrambled his senses against Ruiz. That can happen and doesn’t make him chinny. Chinny is being decked by Steve Cunningham and almost being put to sleep by Wilder and being given longer than 10 to recover.
Sadly AJ has turned out to be a racist bigot, telling black people in America not to buy goods from shops run by white people!
I hope Fury knocks him out after giving him a good schooling!
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I hope Fury knocks him out after giving him a good schooling!
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Sadly AJ has turned out to be a racist bigot, telling black people in America not to buy goods from shops run by white people!
I hope Fury knocks him out after giving him a good schooling!
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I hope Fury knocks him out after giving him a good schooling!
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This is a boxing forum not a race relations or pro BLM or anti-BLM forum. I can’t help but think a lot of the anti Joshua bias is down to the colour of his skin. There I said it but it’s what I believe to be true and it’s dressed up as other stuff. Let’s not forget Fury’s well publicised biases and hate filled comments and history with drugs.
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Floyd Mayweather, stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Calzaghe stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Andre Ward stayed at the top. Why?because of his boxing skills.
Power punchers always lose against elite boxers!!
Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
Calzaghe stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Andre Ward stayed at the top. Why?because of his boxing skills.
Power punchers always lose against elite boxers!!
Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
I take your point & agree mainly although there are certain criticisms too. I did think Ward was really quite special & still not fully recognised.
> Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
AJ is a highly technical Olympic super-heavyweight champion. In the last five years he's mowed through the top 10 heavyweights, beating power punches (Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte), highly skilled opponents (Parker, Ruiz), supposed bogeyman (Martin, Breazeale) and a great all-rounder in Wlad.
In the same five years, Fury did almost nothing.
AJ is a highly technical Olympic super-heavyweight champion. In the last five years he's mowed through the top 10 heavyweights, beating power punches (Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte), highly skilled opponents (Parker, Ruiz), supposed bogeyman (Martin, Breazeale) and a great all-rounder in Wlad.
In the same five years, Fury did almost nothing.
Yeah that’s fair and these things can happen in the HW game. I actually agree fury has been very average at time, lucky even. I remember him getting a very suspect decision against steve Cunningham in his early days. I think he’s a different fighter now to then though and think he has too much movement for AJ. As mentioned I like both and just hope it happens!
If a slap upside his head caused him problems against Ruiz then it's lights out and goodnight against Fury which will come as no surprise to anyone.
Yeah but a fully fledged HW boxer is not a 'mere mortal'. Sure Fury knocked out Wilder but he is a natural 15 stone fighter and we saw what effect it had on him trying to blow his weight up in the 2nd Fury fight. Tyson Fury has never knocked out a proper heavyweight and I'd even bet that a fat Ruiz is a far stronger puncher.
Not so sure that the confidence of those predicting Fury giving Joshua some schooling, is so well placed. AJ is a better fighter than many of you seem to think and I suspect that the bout will be a very tight affair.
Or just slap him in his road man head for 12 rounds - a bigger Calzaghe v Lacy
Fury can get under AJ's skin before and during the fight. Part of his tactics. My money is on the Gipsy King.
The Steve Cunningham fight actually changed the way the BBBC ran fights and moved to judges rather than the refs decision if I remember rightly.
Yep you’re right it was McDermott I got my fights mixed up. Same point applies but very sorry to have caused you such offense. Hope you’ll recover. If you read some of my comments I am a fury fan and believe he’s come a long way since then. You’re not the IT guy from the office are you? You remind me of the Bruce Lee way of the dragon/ enter the dragon skit.
Fury v AJ i rate both in the ring. I have a feeling that AJ will win. I am never wrong.
First time for everything brother
You must be my wife then
Katie Taylor nowhere on any list, not mentioned once? Come on, not even mentioned.
15th April, 1985.. Hagler v Hearns greatest fight in my lifetime so far I've seen, only if Fury and Joshua lives up to the hype, that will be another date in my lifetime
That,s a fair shout yes..although that whole period was pretty special.
I could not believe that fight at the time. Was expecting it to be a cagey affair, but they ripped into each other from the first bell. Brilliant!
We know that Heavies are slower but the first round of your greatest fight (I agree and also watched) had more punches in about the first 30 seconds than the first 2 rounds of the last AJ fight. AJ has a massive issue with stamina and when attacking misses with far too many power shots. You can be sure that has been noted.
Fury KO'd Steve Cunningham in the 7th - very similar to the job he did on Wilder in fact.
So you need to check your facts and recollections
I think you are thinking of another fight very early in his career vs McDermott.
So you need to check your facts and recollections
I think you are thinking of another fight very early in his career vs McDermott.
Yep you’re right it was McDermott I got my fights mixed up. Same point applies but very sorry to have caused you such offense. Hope you’ll recover. If you read some of my comments I am a fury fan and believe he’s come a long way since then. You’re not the IT guy from the office are you? You remind me of the Bruce Lee way of the dragon/ enter the dragon skit.
AJ V Tyson has to happen in 2021 or boxing loses all credibility.
The heavyweight decision needs am undisputed champion now.
Let's have it.
We are sick of the games and politics and money grabbing.
Give us what we want Eddie. It's time
The heavyweight decision needs am undisputed champion now.
Let's have it.
We are sick of the games and politics and money grabbing.
Give us what we want Eddie. It's time
Boxing lost all credibility in 1983, when a two-bit hustler lost the election for WBA president and went off in a huff to form his own governing body (now called the IBF), just so he could continue to receive back handers.
The subsequent farce in 1988, that saw the formation of the WBO, just emphasized the loss of credibility even further.
The subsequent farce in 1988, that saw the formation of the WBO, just emphasized the loss of credibility even further.
Floyd Mayweather, stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Calzaghe stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Andre Ward stayed at the top. Why?because of his boxing skills.
Power punchers always lose against elite boxers!!
Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
Calzaghe stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Andre Ward stayed at the top. Why?because of his boxing skills.
Power punchers always lose against elite boxers!!
Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
Fury can get under Joshua's skin by reminding him that he lost comprehensively to a fat teletubby
Yes he was banned and he was rock bottom and turned his life around. That is why the public have so much respect for him.
The same goes for AJs criminal past with drugs. But he also turned his life around
Lots of people make mistakes but it is how they learn from them that matters.
Some just hide behind keyboards and judge like you
The same goes for AJs criminal past with drugs. But he also turned his life around
Lots of people make mistakes but it is how they learn from them that matters.
Some just hide behind keyboards and judge like you
Floyd Mayweather, stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Calzaghe stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Andre Ward stayed at the top. Why?because of his boxing skills.
Power punchers always lose against elite boxers!!
Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
Calzaghe stayed at the top. Why? because of his boxing skills.
Andre Ward stayed at the top. Why?because of his boxing skills.
Power punchers always lose against elite boxers!!
Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
> Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
AJ is a highly technical Olympic super-heavyweight champion. In the last five years he's mowed through the top 10 heavyweights, beating power punches (Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte), highly skilled opponents (Parker, Ruiz), supposed bogeyman (Martin, Breazeale) and a great all-rounder in Wlad.
In the same five years, Fury did almost nothing.
AJ is a highly technical Olympic super-heavyweight champion. In the last five years he's mowed through the top 10 heavyweights, beating power punches (Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte), highly skilled opponents (Parker, Ruiz), supposed bogeyman (Martin, Breazeale) and a great all-rounder in Wlad.
In the same five years, Fury did almost nothing.
Are you seriously suggesting Parker & Ruiz are as highly skilled as Fury...?!?
And u seem to be forgetting...
1. Fury also beat Wlad....but that was when he was in his prime and not at the end of his career.
2. The hardest punching heavyweight at top level is Wylder...and Fury beat him (twice!)
Not sure how you can think AJs achievements at top level are any better than Fury’s...????
And u seem to be forgetting...
1. Fury also beat Wlad....but that was when he was in his prime and not at the end of his career.
2. The hardest punching heavyweight at top level is Wylder...and Fury beat him (twice!)
Not sure how you can think AJs achievements at top level are any better than Fury’s...????
U R Wrong
C Martin,defo not skilful, more like a bum
Pulev, way past his best
Klitscko when AJ fought him was 2 years out of ring & on his way out
Parkar - fringe world level at best.
Ruiz, good boxer, probably fastest combination puncher in HW DIIVdivision, but below world level
Brazeale another bum.
Povetkin, great, but past his best
Whyte, good, but not world level
Dont believe wot Hearn Says!
C Martin,defo not skilful, more like a bum
Pulev, way past his best
Klitscko when AJ fought him was 2 years out of ring & on his way out
Parkar - fringe world level at best.
Ruiz, good boxer, probably fastest combination puncher in HW DIIVdivision, but below world level
Brazeale another bum.
Povetkin, great, but past his best
Whyte, good, but not world level
Dont believe wot Hearn Says!
The Steve Cunningham fight actually changed the way the BBBC ran fights and moved to judges rather than the refs decision if I remember rightly.
Yes it was. I’ve acknowledged in my others comments above I got the fights mixed up and it was indeed against McDermott
Wilder has stilts for legs. Fair play to Fury for standing up to some of his punches and exposing Wilder for the windmilling amateur he is, but let's not pretend Wilder is a top heavyweight. He's just top-heavy!
What's most pleasing about SPOTY this year is hearing that Fury didn't even make top three.
Not quite the peoples' champion after all..... lol
Not quite the peoples' champion after all..... lol
Yeah but a fully fledged HW boxer is not a 'mere mortal'. Sure Fury knocked out Wilder but he is a natural 15 stone fighter and we saw what effect it had on him trying to blow his weight up in the 2nd Fury fight. Tyson Fury has never knocked out a proper heavyweight and I'd even bet that a fat Ruiz is a far stronger puncher.
I agree, AJ is a much better fighter then what people this. He has very good boxing skills and power.
But Fury will beat him because of his Elite boxing skills and unpredictablility
But Fury will beat him because of his Elite boxing skills and unpredictablility
Tyson is a boxing prodigy its in his blood, and with age his style and skills have matured. His ring craft and knowledge of how to switch tactics will be to much for AJ, who is a very good boxer.
But saying all this Tyson will beat him before he gets in the ring, i would say he already has done that. AJ hesitates to even say his name, Tyson has him beat already
But saying all this Tyson will beat him before he gets in the ring, i would say he already has done that. AJ hesitates to even say his name, Tyson has him beat already
Have a word! A boxing prodigy? It's only that the division is as poor as it's been for donkeys that we are even talking about him! He looks clumsy and awkward and that is just his own movement! Half the time I am not even sure he knows what he is doing himself, rather than trying to confuse an opponent!
Tyson Fury is an average boxer and an very average human being... Simple.
The fact he beat a rubbish cruierweight (wilder) in a division that is truely average doesnt change that!
He should never be spoken about in the same breath as the real great British fighters, or great heavyweights.
Hype this AJ / Fury fight, who can blame them, so gullable punters pay £50 for PPV.
The fact he beat a rubbish cruierweight (wilder) in a division that is truely average doesnt change that!
He should never be spoken about in the same breath as the real great British fighters, or great heavyweights.
Hype this AJ / Fury fight, who can blame them, so gullable punters pay £50 for PPV.
Tyson is a boxing prodigy its in his blood, and with age his style and skills have matured. His ring craft and knowledge of how to switch tactics will be to much for AJ, who is a very good boxer.
But saying all this Tyson will beat him before he gets in the ring, i would say he already has done that. AJ hesitates to even say his name, Tyson has him beat already
But saying all this Tyson will beat him before he gets in the ring, i would say he already has done that. AJ hesitates to even say his name, Tyson has him beat already
Casuals meaning what.....
Tyson fighter of the year? He’s had one fight, a convicted drug cheat, who’s already served a back dated ban, hardly fighter of the year. Yeah he’s got talent, but he’s a cheat!
If he served his ban what the problem, if he was not taking anything for this fight then he was fit to fight.
I guess guys like you dont even go to the toilet your so clean.
I guess guys like you dont even go to the toilet your so clean.
How does AJ approach the Fury fight. Is he going for the KO early it would be difficult to do that to the Pheonix. Is he going to outbox Fury. Least likely of all the scenarios. Is he going to bully Fury around the ring. Nope. Is he going to unbalance Fury with the mind games. Now that would be a miracle. So how does AJ win this fight. Simple he wont. Fury will school him and KO in the tenth.
> Fury will beat Joshua because of his elite boxing skills.
AJ is a highly technical Olympic super-heavyweight champion. In the last five years he's mowed through the top 10 heavyweights, beating power punches (Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte), highly skilled opponents (Parker, Ruiz), supposed bogeyman (Martin, Breazeale) and a great all-rounder in Wlad.
In the same five years, Fury did almost nothing.
AJ is a highly technical Olympic super-heavyweight champion. In the last five years he's mowed through the top 10 heavyweights, beating power punches (Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte), highly skilled opponents (Parker, Ruiz), supposed bogeyman (Martin, Breazeale) and a great all-rounder in Wlad.
In the same five years, Fury did almost nothing.
It was decided months ago to give it to Hamilton, do keep up.
Tyson always says he is going to knock someone out in 2-4 rounds only to not even hurt them. That is why we did not believe he would hurt wilder in the way that he did. Now it turns out he can hurt people and with enough work he could do even more damage to AJ. AJ Fury is a great fight AJ's routes to victory is limited but we have all been proved very wrong recently in whos better than who
How does AJ approach the Fury fight. Is he going for the KO early it would be difficult to do that to the Pheonix. Is he going to outbox Fury. Least likely of all the scenarios. Is he going to bully Fury around the ring. Nope. Is he going to unbalance Fury with the mind games. Now that would be a miracle. So how does AJ win this fight. Simple he wont. Fury will school him and KO in the tenth.
Everything is so easy with hindsight. Fury has fought in the champs back garden 3 times and won them all didnt see everyone screaming Fury was a certainty yet now the opponents are over hyped really? Fury will beat AJ muscle bound and so slow to every punch. AJ will gas after 7 and the legs will stiffen the mind will scramble and he will get schooled and Knocked Out.
Casuals meaning what.....
Which AJ also did, knocking him out....
Everything is so easy with hindsight. Fury has fought in the champs back garden 3 times and won them all didnt see everyone screaming Fury was a certainty yet now the opponents are over hyped really? Fury will beat AJ muscle bound and so slow to every punch. AJ will gas after 7 and the legs will stiffen the mind will scramble and he will get schooled and Knocked Out.
Fury V Joshua (if it's ever happens) is Rocky 9 except this time the underdog (Joshua) doesn't win. The Fury story with the twists and turns it has taken initially made him unpopular compared to the "Golden Boy", Joshua. However, in recent times he has effectively been forgiven and gained a new respect as the self styled "Peoples Champion". Reality will be a fighter beats a Boxer, so Fury wins.
I am got going to get in to the who wins, my fear with long anticipated match ups is we all lose, it is a cagey affair when we get to the cards, both raise their arms and its not clear either way. Granted that probably sets up another PPV decider, but no-one wins especially not boxing if both teams think they won and its a mess.
First up I have to say I'm a fan of boxing.
However, after all the news about concussion and early onset dementia in rugby and even football surely there can't be a boxer out there - pro or amateur that hasn't be affected.
Is this sustainable?
As for AJ v Fury, please let it be Joshua! He has the ability but after Ruiz lose and last fight against Pulav it's obvious he lacks confidence.
However, after all the news about concussion and early onset dementia in rugby and even football surely there can't be a boxer out there - pro or amateur that hasn't be affected.
Is this sustainable?
As for AJ v Fury, please let it be Joshua! He has the ability but after Ruiz lose and last fight against Pulav it's obvious he lacks confidence.
It’s down to him.