Superb Alvarez dominates Smith
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Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez dominates Callum Smith with a near-flawless display to inflict the first defeat of the British fighter's career.
Credit to Callum Smith for heart and for being a great champion, but that was like when Mayweather schooled Canelo in their fight. The level difference was simply mind-boggling. The punching power and defence of Canelo was second to none tonight. One of his best performances.
As one-sided as Calzaghe’s mangling of Jeff Lacey, but, as I said after the two GGG fights (the first of which Saul definitely lost) - are we all just going to ignore Alvarez testing positive for Clenbuterol?
Boxing is so odd in this respect.
Cycling, running, your career’s over, but boxing?
Give it a few months and get in a quick win and no one cares.
Bizarre.
Boxing is so odd in this respect.
Cycling, running, your career’s over, but boxing?
Give it a few months and get in a quick win and no one cares.
Bizarre.
How can he definitely have lost when he beat him twice? Check the history books yuko
Like it or not steroid tainted meat is definite hazard in Mexico. It is also an unfortunate thing that happened to Tyson and Hughie Fury but few have pointed the finder at them.
Literally every cyclist has came back from EPO/steroid abuse when caught.
Literally every cyclist has came back from EPO/steroid abuse when caught.
Good point. Failed drug test. He's tainted. Floyd schooled him which is always something I remember when Canelo is called a pound for pound great.
Boxing, has severely compromised integrity as a pure sport anyway. All the different organisations without true transparency or logic to any rankings, the ability to pick and choose your fights and money being more important than merit in who fights whom, etc.
Without any global regulation, a drugs infringement is a minor contributor to the perception of the legitimacy of Boxing as a sport.
Without any global regulation, a drugs infringement is a minor contributor to the perception of the legitimacy of Boxing as a sport.
Absolutely right. Alvarez is an excellent boxer but he wouldn't be quite as formidable without his unnatural strength and power, and I mean 'unnatural' literally. Contaminated meat my ar5e. And the decision for the first Golovkin fight was a travesty. In boxing, money talks loudly.
Half of the competitors in the mens 100m final had served bans for drugs use. Including the winner Justin Gaitlin (twice). Of the 30 fastest times run, only 9 of them were run by someone who never tested positive for drugs and ALL of those were Usain Bolt. Think about it, other than UB, all the fastest times were set by drugs cheats. So how is your career over in running if you test positive?
Sadly, that's the world we live in now. Some celebrities have a list of crimes as long as your arm and get lauded by their contemporaries, but heaven forbid someone makes a micro-aggression on twitter and they're basically Hitler.
Agree, we can't ignore the fact that this man is a drug cheat
It’s not bizarre it’s money, a business. You take time to build a fighter, they need to keep him.
Yeah about that cycling thing...
It was always going to be a big ask but it wasn't to be, but at least he gave it a go, come back stronger Callum lad ????????
One of the best ever Canelo
See, I’m not convinced.
GGG beat him the first time and earned a draw the second. Mayweather made easy work of him. I don’t think he’d have had much of a chance against a prime Calzaghe or Roy Jones.
Meanwhile, even today, people like Inoue and Usyk are mangling everyone they fight.
So aye he’s an excellent fighter, but a best ever?
Na.
GGG beat him the first time and earned a draw the second. Mayweather made easy work of him. I don’t think he’d have had much of a chance against a prime Calzaghe or Roy Jones.
Meanwhile, even today, people like Inoue and Usyk are mangling everyone they fight.
So aye he’s an excellent fighter, but a best ever?
Na.
Well done callum nothing wrong you stood your ground canelo is different class hope Khan and Brook are watching both glass jaw boxers
It comes to something when you are a bone fide World Champion....
& find out, painfully, you are way out of your depth....
That's how good Canelo is.
& find out, painfully, you are way out of your depth....
That's how good Canelo is.
Canelo was in a different league. Callum Smith showed that he had some big grapefruits to stay the distance and didn't disgrace himself at all against the best around at the moment.
Smith will bounce back and I'm looking forward to seeing him do very well going forward...
Smith will bounce back and I'm looking forward to seeing him do very well going forward...
I felt disappointed in Smith. He wasn't throwing enough punches backed away and stopped putting pressure start of round 3 onwards. Canelo done what was need praise there smith just wanted to last 12 rounds and was not looking to win at any stage if fight stopped 4th round we would have save view.
One of the best ever Canelo
See, I’m not convinced.
GGG beat him the first time and earned a draw the second. Mayweather made easy work of him. I don’t think he’d have had much of a chance against a prime Calzaghe or Roy Jones.
Meanwhile, even today, people like Inoue and Usyk are mangling everyone they fight.
So aye he’s an excellent fighter, but a best ever?
Na.
GGG beat him the first time and earned a draw the second. Mayweather made easy work of him. I don’t think he’d have had much of a chance against a prime Calzaghe or Roy Jones.
Meanwhile, even today, people like Inoue and Usyk are mangling everyone they fight.
So aye he’s an excellent fighter, but a best ever?
Na.
GGG beat him? And here’s me thinking Canelo only had the one loss against mayweather on his record!
Well done to Callum Smith for lasting the distance against probably the best pound for pound boxer in the World today.
But part of those pounds was made up of drugs
Frankly, a forgone conclusion once the fight was agreed.
"Alvarez has now won 56 of his 57 fights" This incorrect stat has been on every article about this fight. You even mention Golovkin in the article BBC....
You have to be some kind of third rate fighter to be dominated by a guy 6 inches shorter and with a 7 inch reach disadvantage. Callum Smith is just such a fighter.
Haye v Valuev?
Mike Tyson managed alright
He’s lost on points big time. But the thing is, if he had a pair of balls and actually fought Canelo, rather than trying not to get hit. He could have made it competitive. He didn’t once gain his respect. He has so much power, but didn’t use it. So disappointed in the lad. He’ll look back at that and not be able to live with himself. Tellin yer. (Until he looks at his bank balance of course)
Maybe so, but you have to remember GGG failed to stop Canelo in two fights and we know how GGG can punch.
Sorry but Smith has got balls,only an idiot would try to mix it with Canelo.He got beat but never say Smith hasn't got balls.
Hats off, Camelot is one of the best pure boxers I have seen in many a year.. one would argue a one off
El Camelot. Big Lotto Boxer
He’s lost on points big time. But the thing is, if he had a pair of balls and actually fought Canelo, rather than trying not to get hit. He could have made it competitive. He didn’t once gain his respect. He has so much power, but didn’t use it. So disappointed in the lad. He’ll look back at that and not be able to live with himself. Tellin yer. (Until he looks at his bank balance of course)
You can’t fight someone of Canelo stature off a 5 week training camp. Smith is a good fighter. Canelo is a great one. Smith did not do himself justice. Canelo schooled him. Real shame.
Maybe so, but you have to remember GGG failed to stop Canelo in two fights and we know how GGG can punch.
You're so right he did win that fight, but boxing has an ugly side too with spurious judging. I watched that fight and GGG was the better fighter.
Not according to the judges he didn't although many, including myself thought he'd done enough, but even so Canelo must be good to take the punches of GGG without getting knocked out like many of GGG's opponents.
'Canelo's fight record stands at.
Total fights 57
Wins 54
Wins by KO 36
Losses 1
Draws 2
Total fights 57
Wins 54
Wins by KO 36
Losses 1
Draws 2
Lovell, you need to stop commenting on boxing. It's clear you have no idea what's going on mate.
54 and 2 draws 1 loss to precise.
Smith just seemed a bit star struck early on and looks beaten before the end of the first round. I felt like he was just trying to get through the 12 rounds as that was a badge if honour in its self. It’s the least menacing I’ve ever seen his jab and he needed that more than ever. Sad to say but classes apart tonight.
See, I’m not convinced.
GGG beat him the first time and earned a draw the second. Mayweather made easy work of him. I don’t think he’d have had much of a chance against a prime Calzaghe or Roy Jones.
Meanwhile, even today, people like Inoue and Usyk are mangling everyone they fight.
So aye he’s an excellent fighter, but a best ever?
Na.
GGG beat him the first time and earned a draw the second. Mayweather made easy work of him. I don’t think he’d have had much of a chance against a prime Calzaghe or Roy Jones.
Meanwhile, even today, people like Inoue and Usyk are mangling everyone they fight.
So aye he’s an excellent fighter, but a best ever?
Na.
As one-sided as Calzaghe’s mangling of Jeff Lacey, but, as I said after the two GGG fights (the first of which Saul definitely lost) - are we all just going to ignore Alvarez testing positive for Clenbuterol?
Boxing is so odd in this respect.
Cycling, running, your career’s over, but boxing?
Give it a few months and get in a quick win and no one cares.
Bizarre.
Boxing is so odd in this respect.
Cycling, running, your career’s over, but boxing?
Give it a few months and get in a quick win and no one cares.
Bizarre.
lovell are you talking about his fights with ggg? think you will find they've fought twice. the first one was a very debatable draw
GGG definitely won the first fight which was a draw. Same could be said of the Fury v Wilder first fight. Fury definitely win the first fight, even though there was a knockdown
Watch the fights. Then check the history of boxing, it has a dark side regarding judges score cards!!!
Maybe it's you that needs to check the history books. If your going to make a point, even a really bad one, make sure you get your facts straight
First fight a draw, so not two wins...suggest you check the books also.
People going on about Canelo being great, best P4P of all time , go on you tube and watch Mayweather school him
Maybe Mayweather could give him another go rather than fighting Youtubers. I mean let's be honest, Mayweather is still probably the only one I can think of who has a real chance of beating him at the moment.
That was when canelo was 23 years old and was weight drained. Mayweather is the best I’ve seen but canelo was very green at that time. If canelo was at this stage of his career back then maybe it may have been a different outcome.
You seem to forget it was over 7 years ago,a big age gap too.More than likely be a very different outcome if both met when in their prime.Go on you tube and watch Marciano knock the great Joe Louis through the ropes.One is in his prime the other is washed out and fighting for money and this age gap scenario appears throughout boxing history.Old or young somewhere you will take a beating.
Who says Canelo is best p4p of all time? I've not heard that one. Mayweather definitely schooled him (one judge ludicrously called it a draw) in one of his career highlights (possibly Corrales being another).
Maybe I watched a different fight to the others here. I thought Smith did nothing for the whole fight. He lost every round except round one, which was a draw. He'll regret not trying harder when his career is over.
I saw a video of Smith and his brother yesterday talking about how he would win the fight. I saw none of this bravado in the figtt. Disappointing, but a good pay day before retirement beckons.
Smith should be eating the meat that canelo eats , with the happy Dustin ??
Alvarez is class there's no doubt about that but IMHO anyone who fails a drugs test in boxing should be banned for life the sport is dangerous enough as it is without having to face juiced up fighters
BTW do the pool team use Canelo's caterer?
BTW do the pool team use Canelo's caterer?
Smith is good but nowhere near where the class of Ward, Calzaghe, etc, were. Boxers who moved their feet and could apply pressure in different ways, thinking boxers. Canelo is very good, but the current class of middleweights to light heavyweights make him seem even better than he is.
Lots of harsh comments in Smith. He’s an honest man who wasn’t good enough against one of the very very best. No disgrace in that.
well look at the list of fighters Smith has fought previously, apart from Groves there was no notable fighter on the list, honestly i had this fight as a knock out for Alvarez so smith done well to reach 12 rounds.
Spot on, Alvarez is top drawer, Smith was on a bit of a mission impossible in this.
If Canelo is one of the very very best then what is Mayweather, who completely schooled him and made him look average? Smith was never winning, he's just another picked fighter for Canelo to eat. No offense to Smith he's a decent pro.
I felt Smith had the potential to unify at SMW, but he has not been active enough, not sure having Joe Gallagher as a manager is a good move. Canelo will always have that taint after testing positive, plus he lost to GGG in fight one no matter what his record says, seems to have got unnaturally stronger since...
You have to be some kind of third rate fighter to be dominated by a guy 6 inches shorter and with a 7 inch reach disadvantage. Callum Smith is just such a fighter.
It is not normal how much canelos physique has changed over the years. Please research this.
Yes but you've explained this in your comment. It takes years of dedication, commitment, training and nutrition, to change physical shape. If you want to do that within a year or 2 that's when you go on the roids. 8 or 9 years of a particular lifestyle reaps the reward. Au natural...
Well done to Callum Smith for lasting the distance against probably the best pound for pound boxer in the World today.
It must be some good stuff to win world titles at five different weights.
I felt disappointed in Smith. He wasn't throwing enough punches backed away and stopped putting pressure start of round 3 onwards. Canelo done what was need praise there smith just wanted to last 12 rounds and was not looking to win at any stage if fight stopped 4th round we would have save view.
Not according to the judges he didn't although many, including myself thought he'd done enough, but even so Canelo must be good to take the punches of GGG without getting knocked out like many of GGG's opponents.
I was just commenting on how tough Canelo must be to take GGG's punches, i thought Canelo would get knocked out and to my surprise and many others too he didn't.
57 fights 54 wins 1 loss 2 draws come on bbc we expect better.
Do you really expect better from the BBC? This level of incompetence is par for the course from them as far as I'm concerned.
You have to be some kind of third rate fighter to be dominated by a guy 6 inches shorter and with a 7 inch reach disadvantage. Callum Smith is just such a fighter.
another overhyped fighter from the eddie hearn stable no doubt smith will follow in the same footsteps as kell brook overhyped from beating journey men to then being put in there with the elite and realising there pretty much average, Hearn has to take full responsibility would he let AJ take on fury with 5 weeks notice?
Biggest payday Smith will have ever had. AJ doesn't need to take anyone on in 5 weeks due to his bank account
If Callum wanted the fight Hearn as his promoter has to get it done for him. AJ wouldn’t be stupid enough to take the biggest fight of his life with 5 weeks notice.
Haye v Valuev?
Canelo is not a great. From someone who fought him:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/amir-khan-saul-canelo-alvarez-drugs-ban-suspension-boxing-phil-lo-greco-a8313511.html%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjJ6Lat_dvtAhWzwuYKHVw_BeEQFjACegQIERAB&usg=AOvVaw3MOD_-TuKcemHcb9hWTLJp&cf=1
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/amir-khan-saul-canelo-alvarez-drugs-ban-suspension-boxing-phil-lo-greco-a8313511.html%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjJ6Lat_dvtAhWzwuYKHVw_BeEQFjACegQIERAB&usg=AOvVaw3MOD_-TuKcemHcb9hWTLJp&cf=1
As good as Canelo is, it is tiresome that he is considered by some in the same breath as Hagler, Golovkin, Mcclennan etc.. He got paid for decisions in his fights with GGG. Hagler or Mcclennan at their best would have not left it to corrupt judges!! Everything bad about boxing!!
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But part of those pounds was made up of drugs
Let's see how good he is against AJ, AJ would destroy him.
Let's see how good he is against AJ, AJ would destroy him.
I agree, but weight classes don't matter down the pub on a Saturday night, so why should they matter here?
Canelo will do the same to Saunders, maybe shutting his big gob in the process.
Saunders chin won’t withstand what Canelo will hit him with. A good payday to end his career though.
I'm not so sure Saunders will get beat so easily. He's well in with Fury, who has very good movement. Saunders was also supposed to get cleaned out by tghe hard hitting David Lemieux and taught Lemieux a boxing lesson. As long as Saunders doesnt go toe to toe it could be interesting to see Canelo trying to catch him.
Mayweather wins fights by using the right gameplan, very similar to the way Fury beats his opponents.
He need some time to get as many drugs in him as Canelo
Andre Ward but he’s retired and would struggle to make the weight at Super Middle. He’s done Covalev twice at LH though.
Maybe, but they are in different weight classes!
You know nothing about boxing so I'm ending this conversation
What can you except smith was totally
Outclassed.
Outclassed.
I agree, but weight classes don't matter down the pub on a Saturday night, so why should they matter here?
Reminds me of Duran very tight compact fighter who hits hard and wears you down over the rounds , One thing for sure Smith has good heart but he fought the best boxer on the planet and thats does not include Mayweather who virtually ran away from him.
As one sided a 12 rounds I have seen, a lot would have been stopped, Smith did well to get the cards.
The fighters at the end shows the difference in class between world champion and world class - Canelo looked like he'd been to a christening and Smith looked like he's been hit by a car.
The fighters at the end shows the difference in class between world champion and world class - Canelo looked like he'd been to a christening and Smith looked like he's been hit by a car.
It was a one sided beat down and Canelo was in 2nd gear throughout. It was uncomfortable to watch from round 9 onwards.
Kudos to Smith for staying on his feet for 12 rounds perhaps? Smith had nothing to trouble Canelo with.
In summary, a one sided and boring fight but worth £1.99 on DAZN.
Kudos to Smith for staying on his feet for 12 rounds perhaps? Smith had nothing to trouble Canelo with.
In summary, a one sided and boring fight but worth £1.99 on DAZN.
Didn't have the feet to command the centre and utilise his reach. Seemed content to continue trying to catch and counter after coming second best at it after three rounds? Would have liked to have seen Smith start faster and clinch more. Rather than being five down after six with no plan B. All easier said than done. Canelo dictated the pace from the off. Sterling performance.
See, I’m not convinced.
GGG beat him the first time and earned a draw the second. Mayweather made easy work of him. I don’t think he’d have had much of a chance against a prime Calzaghe or Roy Jones.
Meanwhile, even today, people like Inoue and Usyk are mangling everyone they fight.
So aye he’s an excellent fighter, but a best ever?
Na.
GGG beat him the first time and earned a draw the second. Mayweather made easy work of him. I don’t think he’d have had much of a chance against a prime Calzaghe or Roy Jones.
Meanwhile, even today, people like Inoue and Usyk are mangling everyone they fight.
So aye he’s an excellent fighter, but a best ever?
Na.
As usual another Smith bottles it in a big fight
Saunders doesn’t work or hit hard enough to keep him off. If you want to evade him you still have to hurt him when he comes in like mayweather did
Maybe canelo should have fought all 4 smith brothers at once that way they would have given him a better fight..
Doubtful
another overhyped fighter from the eddie hearn stable no doubt smith will follow in the same footsteps as kell brook overhyped from beating journey men to then being put in there with the elite and realising there pretty much average, Hearn has to take full responsibility would he let AJ take on fury with 5 weeks notice?
You can’t fight someone of Canelo stature off a 5 week training camp. Smith is a good fighter. Canelo is a great one. Smith did not do himself justice. Canelo schooled him. Real shame.
Canelo is not a great. From someone who fought him:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/amir-khan-saul-canelo-alvarez-drugs-ban-suspension-boxing-phil-lo-greco-a8313511.html%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjJ6Lat_dvtAhWzwuYKHVw_BeEQFjACegQIERAB&usg=AOvVaw3MOD_-TuKcemHcb9hWTLJp&cf=1
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/amir-khan-saul-canelo-alvarez-drugs-ban-suspension-boxing-phil-lo-greco-a8313511.html%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjJ6Lat_dvtAhWzwuYKHVw_BeEQFjACegQIERAB&usg=AOvVaw3MOD_-TuKcemHcb9hWTLJp&cf=1
Let's see how good he is against AJ, AJ would destroy him.
Canelo is exceptional and arguably the finest boxer on the planet today, but Smith was found wanting. A disappointing performance from a World Champion. He didn't appear to have the confidence to let his punches go and showed he's pretty limited when he fights an authentic world class fighter. Apart from Groves he hasn't really fought anyone. Brave, but, sadly, not good enough.
another overhyped fighter from the eddie hearn stable no doubt smith will follow in the same footsteps as kell brook overhyped from beating journey men to then being put in there with the elite and realising there pretty much average, Hearn has to take full responsibility would he let AJ take on fury with 5 weeks notice?
Smith has always been given light weight opponents to build up his hype.
First fight against a quality boxer and he keels over.
You could be forgiven for thinking Smith was only put in the ring to build up Canelos hype
First fight against a quality boxer and he keels over.
You could be forgiven for thinking Smith was only put in the ring to build up Canelos hype
Still a drugs cheat and ggg beat him
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