Pre-Christmas lockdown restrictions hit retail sales
18/12/2020 | news | business | 383
Sales fell by 3.8% last month, bringing to an end a six-month streak of rising trade.
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18/12/2020 10:17:07 9 7
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Well. Who would have thought it???
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18/12/2020 10:16:46 6 9
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Really. Would not have thought this would happen.
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18/12/2020 10:17:59 19 12
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Water is also allegedly wet.
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18/12/2020 10:23:46 7 7
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Actually water isn't wet, it only feels wet, just ask any scientist or the BBC.
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18/12/2020 10:18:16 168 27
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Many started 2020 wanting more, but are (or should be) ending it appreciating everything we already have.

This mindset is needed more going forward, especially with consumerism. This behaviour is unsustainable for the environment and buying more and more stuff isn’t essential.

There need to be debates about an alternative economy and society to make such changes possible.
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18/12/2020 10:27:04 97 9
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Good call... I have took a step back this year and realised its not more money or newer possessions that are important in life.
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18/12/2020 10:48:43 21 19
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Presumably you didn't read the article.

"Despite the monthly fall, overall sales remain above their pre-pandemic levels."

Nice bit of virtuous grandstanding though.
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18/12/2020 11:01:59 11 10
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Assume you'll be paying for the millions out of a job then when everyone starts managing with they have a bit more? We are too far down the path now.
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18/12/2020 11:23:45 6 12
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@"There need to be debates about an alternative economy and society to make such changes possible"
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Give it a rest... consumerism isn't about £ per Kg of raw materials. In many cases higher value = lower material cost. Consumers value smaller and lighter, over bigger and heavier

Also much consumption is in virtual things, which have minimal environmental impact, and no tangible presence
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18/12/2020 11:26:56 6 5
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like Marxism presumably...that always works well
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18/12/2020 11:28:04 13 5
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Anyone who even breathes such thoughts is shouted down as a Communist. That's part of the problem, we can't even imagine a world without consumerism.
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18/12/2020 11:39:45 10 2
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"There need to be debates about an alternative economy and society"

I agree but it is not going to happen under Boris or Keir. The reality is going to be much higher unemployment, ghost towns, very high national & individual debt, higher tax, increased homelessness, very long waiting lists/times for hospital treatment, etc. Unfortunately the cost of lockdowns will far exceed and gains.
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18/12/2020 12:14:32 9 0
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Fully agree with you, and I'm no Marxist. But my view is through middle-aged eyes.

The big problem, particularly for younger people finding their 'place in society', is that they're bombarded with messages saying they need this and they need that - just to keep up. We now have 'influencers' as a subtle advertising form.

Big cause of debt misery and mental health inadequacy problems too.
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18/12/2020 12:52:29 2 1
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Nice idea, however, Human Beings are inherently selfish.

I have these discussions with my youngest as to why true socialism will never work. It's nice, that he doesn't see humanity for what it really is.
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18/12/2020 13:09:42 3 0
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Too true, the human race have turned it into a different ideal over the yrs. What we call Xmas is far from original idea of Christianity. Its turned into an expensive competitive gift buying & over indulging in food & drink (which in turns puts even more burden on the NHS). It wont hurt people to not make it a big thing about it this year, be satisfied they have made it this far, many haven't.
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18/12/2020 23:38:39 0 1
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Be careful what you wish for
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19/12/2020 21:38:05 0 0
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The reason nothing ever changes in our society is because we have nothing but debates! There's never any real action. Politics is just a side show, a bit of theatre to keep the masses distracted, it the billionaires who control what happens in this world.
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18/12/2020 10:18:18 26 15
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And the January lockdown will hit January sales
Hardly news
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18/12/2020 10:18:45 13 8
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The next lockdown will be the last nail in the retail coffin, just for the sake of a few days with eyes off the ball at Xmas.
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18/12/2020 10:21:45 4 2
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You can't catch covid at work, so it must be my family that I will get it off.
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18/12/2020 10:22:53 4 7
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The public are not to blame, the government is wholly responsible for this situation.
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18/12/2020 10:19:47 35 19
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Another of those bleedingly obvious stories.

How much do analysts and writers get paid to turn out this stuff?
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18/12/2020 10:39:05 28 20
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Stop paying your license fee mate. Strangle them financially.
Can't wait til it's decriminalised and funding stopped then we'll see if they have their wits about them.
All the pump out is cheap reality rubbish, they should stick to documentaries and radio.
Is Hugh Edwards worth £450k a year of your money, for reading the news!!
We should get to vote on their pay if we fund it.
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18/12/2020 10:20:19 11 7
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Shock!!
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18/12/2020 10:20:23 16 9
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As Basil Fawlty would say " The expletive obvious"
Please don't treat us like idiots
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18/12/2020 10:18:45 13 8
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The next lockdown will be the last nail in the retail coffin, just for the sake of a few days with eyes off the ball at Xmas.
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18/12/2020 10:21:45 4 2
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You can't catch covid at work, so it must be my family that I will get it off.
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18/12/2020 10:19:29 25 12
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Good job this article points this out. Who would have thought that?
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Den
18/12/2020 10:20:43 15 20
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Another fine mess by Bozo the clown Johnson and his flying circus of clowns.
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18/12/2020 10:28:39 10 5
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Must you keep tripping that nonsense out?
Every heavily populated country is having problems trying to balance spread of infection VS economy. Given like for like figures the UK is doing better than most. Sweden and Germany now admit they got it wrong, Belgium is the worst EU country, closely followed by Italy. China is claiming like NK to have only a small number of cases .
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18/12/2020 10:22:42 86 31
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Yawn. once again BBC states the flipping obvious to fill news streams. Report on actual news for a change please.
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18/12/2020 11:44:06 39 16
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The BBC won't do that as it takes real journalism to get out there and find the story. Too many highly paid desk jockeys surfing the net and leaving all the monitor/TV's on for no good reason when the cameras are rolling.
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18/12/2020 12:28:08 6 2
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This is real news. Obvious or not it is really happening. The other half of people would moan that this isn’t reported. I assume no other news sources have this as a story either? Or are you too busy looking at the sidebar of shame on other news organisations ?
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18/12/2020 22:43:24 1 2
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The once great BBC doesn’t have decent journalists or managers any more .......
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18/12/2020 10:18:45 13 8
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The next lockdown will be the last nail in the retail coffin, just for the sake of a few days with eyes off the ball at Xmas.
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18/12/2020 10:22:53 4 7
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The public are not to blame, the government is wholly responsible for this situation.
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18/12/2020 11:24:55 2 0
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Errrm the public are most definitely partly to blame, the Government's incompetency has most definitely contributed greatly to this mess but individuals need to take responsibility as well.
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18/12/2020 10:23:27 37 15
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Interesting story. Hearing rumours that a certain Vatican resident is a catholic and bears do not have their on en-suites...
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18/12/2020 10:54:25 16 16
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Gee, if I'm going to make a sarky comment like that the least I could do is get the spelling correct.
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18/12/2020 10:23:34 43 18
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This isn't news. It's that obvious my dog could have told you this would happen.
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18/12/2020 10:29:50 13 6
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This made me chuckle Mark. ??????????
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18/12/2020 10:34:06 8 0
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My dog did tell me, he said the economy is "ruff"
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18/12/2020 10:23:41 24 27
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The Evil Tories have shut down the economy.

That means people will have less money and businesses will do badly or fail.

But the Evil Tories won't care.

Survival of the fittest. Law of the jungle.

Let the poor suffer.

That's their mantra.

They have no moral compass.
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18/12/2020 10:33:56 6 8
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Boris must be the most despised Englishmen in history, or close to it, followed closely by Hancockup, Williamson and Sunak for his mishandling and unequitable handling of the finances.
Blair will be up there too as a man who should have been in the dock in The Hague.
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18/12/2020 10:17:59 19 12
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Water is also allegedly wet.
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18/12/2020 10:23:46 7 7
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Actually water isn't wet, it only feels wet, just ask any scientist or the BBC.
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18/12/2020 10:24:21 71 34
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Is this really a news item. It's just stating the obvious. If shops/ bars/ restaurants are shut they don't make money. 10 months and not a clue what to do. The government's slogan ' Saving lives and Livelihoods' is absolute rubbish. ' Destroying lives and Livelihoods' would be more appropriate.
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18/12/2020 10:39:47 52 19
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It's called poor journalism.
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18/12/2020 11:48:08 2 1
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What have bars and restaurants to do with retail sales?
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18/12/2020 12:28:29 4 1
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It's actually a bit deeper than this. When the cafés & pubs have to close, people don't go to the town centre, just the out-of-town supermarkets. The result is that the life goes of the town as nobody is looking in the independent shops any more. The result, as you imply, is a reduction in trade leading to business closures, a tatty town, debt & recession, + inevitable poverty & higher mortality.
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18/12/2020 10:26:39 81 7
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In Lockdown 1 I realised I was being greedy and spending money on things I didn’t need. Maybe one day I’ll spend like that again, but I’m unlikely to any time soon. I’m spending less now even though I live in a low Tier region with open shops.
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19/12/2020 19:31:55 2 0
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I'm still buying just basics. Unfortunately, it’s costing me MORE, thanks to 'struggling' supermarkets. -3.8% down - on sales of what?
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18/12/2020 10:18:16 168 27
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Many started 2020 wanting more, but are (or should be) ending it appreciating everything we already have.

This mindset is needed more going forward, especially with consumerism. This behaviour is unsustainable for the environment and buying more and more stuff isn’t essential.

There need to be debates about an alternative economy and society to make such changes possible.
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18/12/2020 10:27:04 97 9
bbc
Good call... I have took a step back this year and realised its not more money or newer possessions that are important in life.
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18/12/2020 10:32:05 21 1
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Yes me too. The good thing about this year is that it made me take stock of what's important.
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18/12/2020 10:54:00 8 3
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Me too. But I think we may be in a minority.
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18/12/2020 11:05:44 5 6
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I agree. It’s the people that are important to you that matter most, but we’re not allowed to see them either!
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18/12/2020 10:28:02 20 11
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The notion that the Tories are a ‘conservative’ party as they destroy businesses, borrow unprecedented amounts of money and increase the reach of the state into the minutiae of our lives, should finally be dispelled.

Political crisis coming.
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Den
18/12/2020 10:20:43 15 20
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Another fine mess by Bozo the clown Johnson and his flying circus of clowns.
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18/12/2020 10:28:39 10 5
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Must you keep tripping that nonsense out?
Every heavily populated country is having problems trying to balance spread of infection VS economy. Given like for like figures the UK is doing better than most. Sweden and Germany now admit they got it wrong, Belgium is the worst EU country, closely followed by Italy. China is claiming like NK to have only a small number of cases .
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18/12/2020 10:29:34 9 5
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Great quote on T.V.
The rhetoric Battle Of Britain.
The response, Dad's Army.....
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18/12/2020 10:29:40 6 5
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Good to see the Beeb has got it's grads writing the headlines as usual.
Proof if ever that 24hr news there is not.
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18/12/2020 10:23:34 43 18
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This isn't news. It's that obvious my dog could have told you this would happen.
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18/12/2020 10:29:50 13 6
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This made me chuckle Mark. ??????????
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18/12/2020 10:30:16 88 7
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Maybe one day we will realise that people buying and consuming less is a good thing
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18/12/2020 11:26:18 27 36
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Shopping is the main cause of covid spread right now.

Stay home, save lives, save the planet.

Sadly consumerism trumps common sense.
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18/12/2020 12:11:42 3 1
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We are a capitalist consumer service based economy. This will end well......
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18/12/2020 16:42:32 0 0
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Said and liked by the hypocrites using Chinese manufactured devices / laptops / tech
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18/12/2020 17:52:18 0 1
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no.....no....no....

the BBC: Greta is the saviour
also the BBC: people bought less, this is terrible
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18/12/2020 10:30:20 158 22
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"Breaking News!!"

When shops are shut, they don't sell very much.
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18/12/2020 10:55:37 118 18
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I know, isn't it astonishing! There's a rumour going round that pubs sell less beer when closed...just waiting for the BBC to confirm that one
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18/12/2020 12:40:05 4 3
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Not true, smart shops just went via on line, in droves. They are booming. No one needs a high street any more.
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18/12/2020 13:30:51 2 2
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I think that this sort of story is normally described as "Another report from the Department of the Ble*din' Obvious".. :-)
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18/12/2020 14:22:55 0 0
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Except beer and wine sales are up, almost 100% in some cases.
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19/12/2020 15:00:19 0 0
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Indeed and even more suprisingly an incompetent government kills more of its own citizens and causes more damage to its own economy; who would have thought it?
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18/12/2020 10:27:04 97 9
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Good call... I have took a step back this year and realised its not more money or newer possessions that are important in life.
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18/12/2020 10:32:05 21 1
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Yes me too. The good thing about this year is that it made me take stock of what's important.
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18/12/2020 10:32:32 36 6
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Lockdown is a great way to focus the mind on how much unnecessary shopping we do. The number of business store closures and enforced closures has had a major impact. I was in London last week and had a half around and was on The Strand. I estimate that more than 30% of businesses had closed down for good with boarded up windows and doors. It was eerie that it was like this in the Capital London.
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18/12/2020 10:36:27 19 4
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I estimate that more than 30% of businesses had closed down for good

The rest of the country, is scr*wed then....
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18/12/2020 10:32:59 10 5
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Like him or loathe him, Cummings is correct. All politicians care about is there Twitter image. Now is the time for clear, reasoned thinking but not at the cost of looking good on social media apparently
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18/12/2020 10:23:41 24 27
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The Evil Tories have shut down the economy.

That means people will have less money and businesses will do badly or fail.

But the Evil Tories won't care.

Survival of the fittest. Law of the jungle.

Let the poor suffer.

That's their mantra.

They have no moral compass.
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18/12/2020 10:33:56 6 8
bbc
Boris must be the most despised Englishmen in history, or close to it, followed closely by Hancockup, Williamson and Sunak for his mishandling and unequitable handling of the finances.
Blair will be up there too as a man who should have been in the dock in The Hague.
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18/12/2020 10:34:03 20 2
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In the early 60's houses had an average of 1,500 items in their house, it's now over 3,500. Consumerism at its starkest
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18/12/2020 12:31:48 3 3
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Capitalism
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18/12/2020 13:38:14 1 2
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And yet the quality of life we experience today is the best it’s every been, because of capitalism
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18/12/2020 10:23:34 43 18
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This isn't news. It's that obvious my dog could have told you this would happen.
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18/12/2020 10:34:06 8 0
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My dog did tell me, he said the economy is "ruff"
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18/12/2020 10:34:19 0 19
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Its driven by falling meat sales. Meat eaters now realise they are at increased risk of CV19 and their selfish lifestyle led to crossover infections - Wuhan bat soup and meat packaging factory infections. Smokers used to cause secondary smoke problems for non-smokers meaterites put us all at risk due macabre taste for cruelly processed animal body parts. Veg cheaper than meat - Flake News?
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18/12/2020 10:40:38 4 0
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I think you're the 'Flake :)
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18/12/2020 10:50:13 2 0
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Wow..!!
How is that padded room you're in btw..??
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18/12/2020 10:34:31 7 1
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lets all rush out now and buy a lot of tat rubbish to keep the economy going or maybe use common sense and get a grip on the virus. simple really.
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18/12/2020 10:34:55 7 8
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Guess what? It’s Covid that torpedoed the economy, and no, the virus is neither ‘one of Boris’s rich friends’ nor does it even vote Tory. Although to read some of the witless comments on HYS, you’d think it did. Turn the record over, please.
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18/12/2020 10:37:50 5 3
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So we should just ignore the 18 billion missing without paper trails or the Tory wags and offshore tax evaders being given huge sums of money for fake ppe? Because it’s all covid to blame. My little crony
According to the incompetent, self congratulaTory H Cock, Britain's "world class genomic capability" is at the forefront of detecting new coronavirus strains, while those in charge screw up everything they touch, except the bungs.

Meanwhile if sales are down, tough luck and as soon as the Christmas relaxation rules are in place the virus will be spreading again, while HCock congratulates himself.
Removed
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18/12/2020 10:36:13 10 8
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A wasted lockdown for no benefit. Cases are just as high, the tier system is a joke that punishes business for no gains, and the lockdown wasn’t long enough to tough enough (like in the spring) to get on top.

Huge mistake dithering the first time. Excellent national effort on first lockdown ruined by Cummings and the ineptitude of Harding/serco. Now it’s beyond control w/o 4 month lockdown
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18/12/2020 10:40:22 11 1
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Not quite - in many northern towns, the rate has been slashed and deaths prevented due to the lockdown - Liverpool being a good example.
If Andy Burnham hadn't tried to be the big man, Manchester would have been in tier 3 ten days earlier, which would have made a huge difference to the cases there.
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18/12/2020 10:32:32 36 6
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Lockdown is a great way to focus the mind on how much unnecessary shopping we do. The number of business store closures and enforced closures has had a major impact. I was in London last week and had a half around and was on The Strand. I estimate that more than 30% of businesses had closed down for good with boarded up windows and doors. It was eerie that it was like this in the Capital London.
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18/12/2020 10:36:27 19 4
bbc
I estimate that more than 30% of businesses had closed down for good

The rest of the country, is scr*wed then....
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18/12/2020 11:45:02 2 1
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Latest stats from the Insolvency service - The overall number of company insolvencies decreased by 42% in October 2020, when compared
to the same month last year.

So currently the facts suggest a lot less businesses closing down then normal across the economy ?
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18/12/2020 10:34:55 7 8
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Guess what? It’s Covid that torpedoed the economy, and no, the virus is neither ‘one of Boris’s rich friends’ nor does it even vote Tory. Although to read some of the witless comments on HYS, you’d think it did. Turn the record over, please.
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18/12/2020 10:37:50 5 3
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So we should just ignore the 18 billion missing without paper trails or the Tory wags and offshore tax evaders being given huge sums of money for fake ppe? Because it’s all covid to blame. My little crony
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18/12/2020 10:19:47 35 19
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Another of those bleedingly obvious stories.

How much do analysts and writers get paid to turn out this stuff?
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18/12/2020 10:39:05 28 20
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Stop paying your license fee mate. Strangle them financially.
Can't wait til it's decriminalised and funding stopped then we'll see if they have their wits about them.
All the pump out is cheap reality rubbish, they should stick to documentaries and radio.
Is Hugh Edwards worth £450k a year of your money, for reading the news!!
We should get to vote on their pay if we fund it.
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18/12/2020 11:36:51 8 5
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To be honest I've given up watching the BBC news. Overpaid news readers introducing 10 minute documentaries on climate change in Australia or how the Black population in the USA won't get vaccinated. All delivered with their usual woke lecture approach. Just catch the 10 minute news on Channel 5, focused on the important UK news, delivered without bias and totally, absolutely FREE.
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18/12/2020 12:31:23 2 5
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By not paying your fee and using this service (amongst others) you are the reason the wealthy OAP’s are having to pay for the license fee themselves.

You and the Tory government are taking away the funds which allow others to watch for free.
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18/12/2020 10:39:21 3 13
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If a bunch of anti-capitalist anarchists had planned to wreck the economy, they couldn't have done a better job than the health zealots who are riding the waves of this cold virus.
An ordinary cold virus, does not produce Covid-19 symptoms fool. Removed
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MrW
18/12/2020 14:09:13 0 0
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Stop being contrary.
From https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/immune-cells-common-cold-may-recognize-sars-cov-2
"The virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic, SARS-CoV-2, is part of a large family of coronaviruses. Coronaviruses usually cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold. However, SARS-CoV-2 can cause serious illness and even death."
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MrW
18/12/2020 10:39:23 5 2
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As well as the BBC, it seems Sky & The Guardian are also a) being lazy or b) providing information & background (choose whichever suits your agenda):
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-retail-sales-fell-3-8-in-november-as-lockdown-hit-stores-12166009
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/18/uk-retail-sales-november-lockdown-high-street-coronavirus
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18/12/2020 10:24:21 71 34
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Is this really a news item. It's just stating the obvious. If shops/ bars/ restaurants are shut they don't make money. 10 months and not a clue what to do. The government's slogan ' Saving lives and Livelihoods' is absolute rubbish. ' Destroying lives and Livelihoods' would be more appropriate.
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18/12/2020 10:39:47 52 19
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It's called poor journalism.
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18/12/2020 10:47:03 5 6
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Roland Rat-faced, great handle!

You know Roland is Risi Sunak's doppelganger, check it out.
Only difference is Roland is likeable.
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MVS
18/12/2020 12:18:52 2 3
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What??? On the BBC web site??? Surely not!!!
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18/12/2020 12:29:38 4 1
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It’s not poor journalism to report something that has happened. Poor journalism would be to now report the facts. In this case the facts have been reflected.

Your boring and obvious agenda has clouded your judgement and your feelings have led to you being upset
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18/12/2020 10:40:02 2 0
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The yo-yoing of the tiers has badly hit smaller businesses because they cant afford to chop and change, 2020 has hugely benefited supermarkets who have been allowed to stay open.

Why go out your way on the likelihood that a smaller store is shut when you can go to a supermarket knowing it is definitely open and will have what you want..?
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18/12/2020 10:36:13 10 8
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A wasted lockdown for no benefit. Cases are just as high, the tier system is a joke that punishes business for no gains, and the lockdown wasn’t long enough to tough enough (like in the spring) to get on top.

Huge mistake dithering the first time. Excellent national effort on first lockdown ruined by Cummings and the ineptitude of Harding/serco. Now it’s beyond control w/o 4 month lockdown
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18/12/2020 10:40:22 11 1
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Not quite - in many northern towns, the rate has been slashed and deaths prevented due to the lockdown - Liverpool being a good example.
If Andy Burnham hadn't tried to be the big man, Manchester would have been in tier 3 ten days earlier, which would have made a huge difference to the cases there.
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18/12/2020 10:40:26 5 0
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I work in an ''essential' retail store that has never closed. Most didn't care there was a lockdown. The ones who did are now out in great numbers to make up for it, customers are more aggressive then usual (which is saying something) this is far from over and the constant open/shut lockdowns are making things worse.
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18/12/2020 10:34:19 0 19
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Its driven by falling meat sales. Meat eaters now realise they are at increased risk of CV19 and their selfish lifestyle led to crossover infections - Wuhan bat soup and meat packaging factory infections. Smokers used to cause secondary smoke problems for non-smokers meaterites put us all at risk due macabre taste for cruelly processed animal body parts. Veg cheaper than meat - Flake News?
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18/12/2020 10:40:38 4 0
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I think you're the 'Flake :)
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18/12/2020 10:40:58 1 2
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The real reason why shops & businesses have gone to the (red) wall

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1282915698604376064
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18/12/2020 10:40:59 28 7
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Pre-Christmas lockdown restrictions hit retail sales.

When most places are shut this isn't a surprise.

Small businesses/shops don't always have a web presence thus unable to carry on trading
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18/12/2020 10:41:36 8 5
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Have you noticed how those writing these poorly written, meaningless and pointless news articles can't even bring themselves to add their names!
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18/12/2020 10:45:28 3 6
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Just like you
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18/12/2020 10:42:10 4 3
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The first wave of Brexit panic buying will rectify this.
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18/12/2020 10:39:21 3 13
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If a bunch of anti-capitalist anarchists had planned to wreck the economy, they couldn't have done a better job than the health zealots who are riding the waves of this cold virus.
An ordinary cold virus, does not produce Covid-19 symptoms fool. Removed
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18/12/2020 10:43:58 14 0
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My big retail purchase was a pair of walking boots and they have changed my life.
I have discovered the joys of walking and my health has benefited.
Lowered blood pressure and more energy generally.
More to life than shopping.
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18/12/2020 10:44:05 8 2
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Store closures enforced by Covid curbs pushed down UK retail sales in November, figures have indicated.
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Would this have anything to do with customers not being able to get into the store? Just wondered.
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18/12/2020 10:31:39 3 2
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Fake News!

A non- story if ever there was one
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18/12/2020 10:55:38 0 0
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"Fake news" is just a mealy-mouthed term for uncomfortable truths.
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18/12/2020 10:31:50 18 7
bbc
I don't want possessions.

I want to see my friends. I miss them.

That said, the government don't care about retail, they are too busy continuing to allow Amazon to avoid taxes.
Removed
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rd
18/12/2020 10:44:21 8 5
bbc
Why is bbc telling this,as we don't know the story by now, when shop shut, there will be no shopping, numbers tumble, only food is needed during these time, please tell.us something we sont know, that why we are pay TV licence
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18/12/2020 10:41:36 8 5
bbc
Have you noticed how those writing these poorly written, meaningless and pointless news articles can't even bring themselves to add their names!
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18/12/2020 10:45:28 3 6
bbc
Just like you
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18/12/2020 10:39:47 52 19
bbc
It's called poor journalism.
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18/12/2020 10:47:03 5 6
bbc
Roland Rat-faced, great handle!

You know Roland is Risi Sunak's doppelganger, check it out.
Only difference is Roland is likeable.
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18/12/2020 10:47:05 1 1
bbc
"Despite the monthly fall, overall sales remain above their pre-pandemic levels.
Retail sales November"

He [Sam Tombs] pointed out that consumers had "rushed back to the shops" since non-essential retailers were allowed to reopen on 2 December.

So a bit of a non-story?
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18/12/2020 10:37:31 100 10
bbc
If we are no longer buying Chinese tat it would be a good thing for sure.
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18/12/2020 12:27:01 31 17
bbc
Unfortunately people can’t afford to buy uk made tat.
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18/12/2020 12:42:56 6 2
bbc
Everywhere I've looked to buy things I actually need on line seeking out Brands that are not China produced. Despite my efforts I ended up with Chinese tat in household products and clothing. M&S once known for quality durability and value for money products is going the same way. No how can I replace a worn out top and a couple of pillowvcases?
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18/12/2020 10:18:16 168 27
bbc
Many started 2020 wanting more, but are (or should be) ending it appreciating everything we already have.

This mindset is needed more going forward, especially with consumerism. This behaviour is unsustainable for the environment and buying more and more stuff isn’t essential.

There need to be debates about an alternative economy and society to make such changes possible.
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18/12/2020 10:48:43 21 19
bbc
Presumably you didn't read the article.

"Despite the monthly fall, overall sales remain above their pre-pandemic levels."

Nice bit of virtuous grandstanding though.
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18/12/2020 10:48:54 6 0
bbc
Shocked that fall in retail sales so low given stores were closed, there must have massive online sales to counteract this.
So where is the digital tax on internet sales to pay for cost of pandemic?
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18/12/2020 10:50:07 9 6
bbc
I would have thought it would have been a lot worse considering the daily reporting by the media.
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18/12/2020 10:34:19 0 19
bbc
Its driven by falling meat sales. Meat eaters now realise they are at increased risk of CV19 and their selfish lifestyle led to crossover infections - Wuhan bat soup and meat packaging factory infections. Smokers used to cause secondary smoke problems for non-smokers meaterites put us all at risk due macabre taste for cruelly processed animal body parts. Veg cheaper than meat - Flake News?
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18/12/2020 10:50:13 2 0
bbc
Wow..!!
How is that padded room you're in btw..??
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18/12/2020 10:50:32 11 2
bbc
So, unsurprisingly retail sales goes down when the shops are shut. Imagine our surprise. This will be nothing compared to 2021 when it is pretty likely we will see a breakdown of the global economy, financial systems and the introduction of the Universal Basic Income as 10s of millions of people lose their jobs round the globe.
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18/12/2020 10:52:18 8 6
bbc
"overall sales remain above their pre-pandemic levels."

That runs counter to your headline BBC so why the panic?
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18/12/2020 11:04:59 4 2
bbc
Because it’s the BBC and they love to paint a negative picture whenever they can.
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18/12/2020 10:52:31 40 4
bbc
I have bought basically everything online this year (except for groceries).

Challenging myself to buy everything in local shops for all of next year.
Might not make it, but another year like this one and all that will be left is tax-avoiding online shops and high streets of charity & bet shops.
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18/12/2020 12:57:17 7 0
bbc
With everyone all their buying products on line there will be no local shops next year. Every High Street will be filled with empty Pubs cafes and restaurants. No shops in the centre of town means there's no reason to visit the last of these hospitality businesses either.
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18/12/2020 10:27:04 97 9
bbc
Good call... I have took a step back this year and realised its not more money or newer possessions that are important in life.
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18/12/2020 10:54:00 8 3
bbc
Me too. But I think we may be in a minority.
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18/12/2020 10:23:27 37 15
bbc
Interesting story. Hearing rumours that a certain Vatican resident is a catholic and bears do not have their on en-suites...
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18/12/2020 10:54:25 16 16
bbc
Gee, if I'm going to make a sarky comment like that the least I could do is get the spelling correct.
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18/12/2020 18:10:18 0 1
bbc
poss, but your write
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18/12/2020 10:30:20 158 22
bbc
"Breaking News!!"

When shops are shut, they don't sell very much.
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18/12/2020 10:55:37 118 18
bbc
I know, isn't it astonishing! There's a rumour going round that pubs sell less beer when closed...just waiting for the BBC to confirm that one
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18/12/2020 11:13:48 12 9
bbc
SSShhhhhhh... keep it quiet. The latest WHICH issue is out soon, so expect the excellent BBC journalists to be regurgitating parts of it as their excellent, inciteful headlines and news scoops !
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18/12/2020 11:20:50 9 1
bbc
Not the Welsh pubs, they're open but devoid of any beer.
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18/12/2020 13:27:32 3 0
bbc
I'm stunned ... what we need is a team of highly paid consultants to investigate and come back with a 1,000 page report in about 5 years or so.

That usually sorts out any problems.
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18/12/2020 13:38:18 4 0
bbc
That may be so, but the booze was certainly flying off the shelves this morning in Tesco's
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Pip
18/12/2020 13:55:55 3 0
bbc
But Supermarkets sell a hell of lot more beer when pubs are shut, and quite considerably cheaper..........?
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18/12/2020 10:56:52 5 0
bbc
Massive online sales have kept the figure looking reasonable.
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18/12/2020 10:58:23 5 5
bbc
I'm buying everything online, have done for years.
High Street is dead. Get over it.
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18/12/2020 11:00:38 1 3
bbc
No shot Shurlock!
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18/12/2020 11:00:51 1 1
bbc
Wake up people.
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18/12/2020 11:01:18 3 4
bbc
I haven't bought anything on the high street for a long time.. why would I when it's cheaper and more convenient to do it on line.
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18/12/2020 11:06:42 2 1
bbc
cheaper and convenient maybe, but the biggest online retailer pays naff all tax, so the Govt will be forced to rake that in elsewhere down the line. Cheaper, only for now
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18/12/2020 11:07:04 2 1
bbc
Because when you can ONLY buy online watch the prices rocket. Shortsighted optimism..
So there are some good things about the current crisis. Materialism and consumerism are dying. People are focusing on things which are not things.
Let's remember CHRISTmas begins with Christ. The only Person ever preannounced . King of Kings . My Lord and my God. Have a Blessed Christmas, everyone. Give yourself to others. Best and the only present they ask for is YOU.
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18/12/2020 10:18:16 168 27
bbc
Many started 2020 wanting more, but are (or should be) ending it appreciating everything we already have.

This mindset is needed more going forward, especially with consumerism. This behaviour is unsustainable for the environment and buying more and more stuff isn’t essential.

There need to be debates about an alternative economy and society to make such changes possible.
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18/12/2020 11:01:59 11 10
bbc
Assume you'll be paying for the millions out of a job then when everyone starts managing with they have a bit more? We are too far down the path now.
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18/12/2020 11:38:49 9 4
bbc
You obviously have taken a different view on the contributors statement. They, as many feel we need to look at different ways of living without the need for continual purchase of low value, low benefit stuff. Saying we are too far down the path now is just short-sighted.
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19/12/2020 16:38:35 0 0
bbc
What about repair of products where legislation has recently come into force, an industry will re-emerge of repairing stuff, being labour intesive,creating jobs, rather than going to the nearest tip !!!
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18/12/2020 11:03:31 12 5
bbc
And in other news, the sky is blue and politicians lie. Astonishing news!!!
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18/12/2020 11:05:52 3 2
bbc
Not where I'm living here it is dark clouds & heavy rain
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18/12/2020 11:04:20 11 7
bbc
Yes a lot of people suffering because of the restrictions, far more than are suffering from coronavirus.... yet the wonderful Senedd members in Wales will be getting their pay rise next year.. cheers for your unmitigated support through this. ??
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18/12/2020 11:11:24 3 4
bbc
But if you easy the restrictions more people will suffer from Covid-19
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18/12/2020 11:04:43 23 1
bbc
This isn't news nearly everybody knows that if most of the shops are closed then despite online sales going up retail trade will be down. What I'm more concerned about is the impact on businesses closing permanently & the huge lose of retail jobs that is & will bring. Making the town centres more empty than they already are.
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18/12/2020 10:52:18 8 6
bbc
"overall sales remain above their pre-pandemic levels."

That runs counter to your headline BBC so why the panic?
85
18/12/2020 11:04:59 4 2
bbc
Because it’s the BBC and they love to paint a negative picture whenever they can.
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18/12/2020 10:27:04 97 9
bbc
Good call... I have took a step back this year and realised its not more money or newer possessions that are important in life.
86
18/12/2020 11:05:44 5 6
bbc
I agree. It’s the people that are important to you that matter most, but we’re not allowed to see them either!
82
18/12/2020 11:03:31 12 5
bbc
And in other news, the sky is blue and politicians lie. Astonishing news!!!
87
18/12/2020 11:05:52 3 2
bbc
Not where I'm living here it is dark clouds & heavy rain
94
18/12/2020 11:08:14 4 0
bbc
That’s soo funny.
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18/12/2020 11:08:46 7 0
bbc
That’s not the sky though, that’s the cloud.
79
18/12/2020 11:01:18 3 4
bbc
I haven't bought anything on the high street for a long time.. why would I when it's cheaper and more convenient to do it on line.
88
18/12/2020 11:06:42 2 1
bbc
cheaper and convenient maybe, but the biggest online retailer pays naff all tax, so the Govt will be forced to rake that in elsewhere down the line. Cheaper, only for now
130
18/12/2020 11:31:59 0 0
bbc
Not just government, local councils revenue hit which means an increase in domestic rates bills
89
18/12/2020 11:06:53 12 1
bbc
When will we stop beating ourselves up?
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18/12/2020 11:07:04 32 11
bbc
and in other news.

Rain is wet
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18/12/2020 11:09:14 9 4
bbc
Yes its a pity we can't have dry rain
328
18/12/2020 18:03:33 2 1
bbc
dehydrated rain

just add water
79
18/12/2020 11:01:18 3 4
bbc
I haven't bought anything on the high street for a long time.. why would I when it's cheaper and more convenient to do it on line.
91
18/12/2020 11:07:04 2 1
bbc
Because when you can ONLY buy online watch the prices rocket. Shortsighted optimism..
131
18/12/2020 11:32:59 0 0
bbc
I've already noticed that i can buy cheaper than amazon sometimes even in conventional shops
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18/12/2020 11:07:54 10 5
bbc
Despite Brexit?

The reason I say that is because some Remoaners have been 'predicting' (they are good at that) empty shelves, high prices, runaway inflation & food riots, all of which would have been preceeded by vastly increased sales due to hoarding & panic-buying

So...?
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18/12/2020 11:29:34 2 0
bbc
I reckon Beeb has little to say that's positive, so instead, they'd rather take a negative slant on the obvious.
Once we've broken free of all our constraints, OTT covid response, EU demands, free to start to feel apart of something worthwhile + calling us Britain not UK, the better.
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18/12/2020 11:08:12 30 6
bbc
The most horrifying thing about the article is the photo of the woman carrying at least 9 individual carrier bags. Is that really necessary?
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18/12/2020 11:09:10 20 3
bbc
Mostly from Top Shop

So it is probably an 'archive photo' lifted from another recent story
87
18/12/2020 11:05:52 3 2
bbc
Not where I'm living here it is dark clouds & heavy rain
94
18/12/2020 11:08:14 4 0
bbc
That’s soo funny.
87
18/12/2020 11:05:52 3 2
bbc
Not where I'm living here it is dark clouds & heavy rain
95
18/12/2020 11:08:46 7 0
bbc
That’s not the sky though, that’s the cloud.
96
18/12/2020 11:08:49 8 4
bbc
Gosh, really I never could have guessed. Another non-news story. Yawn.
93
18/12/2020 11:08:12 30 6
bbc
The most horrifying thing about the article is the photo of the woman carrying at least 9 individual carrier bags. Is that really necessary?
97
18/12/2020 11:09:10 20 3
bbc
Mostly from Top Shop

So it is probably an 'archive photo' lifted from another recent story
90
18/12/2020 11:07:04 32 11
bbc
and in other news.

Rain is wet
98
18/12/2020 11:09:14 9 4
bbc
Yes its a pity we can't have dry rain
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18/12/2020 12:08:20 2 1
bbc
Yeah what is the government gonna do about that, and why haven't the opposition called them chaotic and called for resignations?

Sorry, getting ahead of myself, there's been no twitter-storm yet.
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18/12/2020 11:09:52 2 10
bbc
And the post no deal brexit rises will not help either
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18/12/2020 11:15:56 2 2
bbc
"post no deal Brexit rises" - what on earth are you on about?
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18/12/2020 11:10:05 1 1
bbc
im glad that some people can go on a shoping spree before xmass and have the money to do so have a thought about the people who are on the dole or on the sick who cant they get there money once a month Bugett what they have to pay out and what little money they have left when they have a chance to bye what they need in a 3tier they cant bye what they need