Chancellor Rishi Sunak reveals date of next Budget
17/12/2020 | news | politics | 466
The Budget had been set to happen in Autumn 2020 but was ditched due to the coronavirus pandemic.
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17/12/2020 15:16:54 87 39
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Still throwing money away to try an become the next PM

At some point furlough money wasted will needed to be repaid

An those paying the most will not have had a penny off it
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17/12/2020 15:31:39 29 38
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Silly Panda
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17/12/2020 16:18:03 7 18
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What a thoroughly daft and unpleasant thing to write, typical leftie. Yes, some furlough money was wasted. But is saved an awful lot of jobs and companies. I guess that you are a student or have a cushy public sector job to write such an ill considered post.
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17/12/2020 15:17:23 3 4
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Will it be a real Budget this time?
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17/12/2020 15:17:38 5 10
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More than likely there won't be tax rises.

What will happen is the treasury will likely make a fair bit of money on the import tariffs they will need to apply due to Brexit.
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17/12/2020 15:21:03 6 2
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Gov. only gets money from import tariffs if consumers (us) still buy the goods with inflated prices.
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17/12/2020 15:17:52 22 3
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We might even know the brexit deal or no deal by then
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17/12/2020 15:45:22 12 3
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Don't bet your mortgage on it
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17/12/2020 16:28:55 3 1
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Odds are we will get an oven-ready fudge which will go on for years.
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17/12/2020 15:18:34 9 8
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Rishi is the only politician that appears to be coming out of this pandemic with any merit.
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17/12/2020 15:21:29 13 4
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If you mean spending money like it's water
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17/12/2020 15:30:28 4 1
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It's easier to spend money and be popular than it is to make cuts/raise taxes and be popular.

That said in terms of his ability to strike tone and read the room he is quite good.

His real test is going to be the 2022-2023 and onwards budgets when he'll have to balance books which already had a deficit, with larger debt servicing payments.
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17/12/2020 15:31:07 2 3
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Yes he is good......well said.
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17/12/2020 16:04:15 1 3
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Britain's economy is down more than any other Western country. Is that what success now looks like here?
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17/12/2020 15:19:12 5 4
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Someone's bound to mention Amazon so let me be the first...
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17/12/2020 15:19:15 13 11
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Not looking forward to paying for Tory cronyism, COVID mistakes and Brexit...
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17/12/2020 15:52:55 5 5
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Nice activism. Have a cookie ??
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17/12/2020 15:19:23 6 9
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"...next date of budget"

Hopefully after I'm dead! This country is now bankrupt.
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17/12/2020 15:27:39 6 1
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Thank you Moscow but it isn't.
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17/12/2020 15:30:40 1 2
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We hope so too.
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17/12/2020 15:51:25 1 1
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No it isn't. Lots of debt - yes - but at least we have monetary policy control to help us manage it.... unlike the countries in the Euro-zone. There'll be a few Greece-like scenarios, I'll warrant.
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17/12/2020 15:19:44 21 8
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The biggest can kick in history..........just wait until they raid us for cash for their incompetence.
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17/12/2020 15:30:22 7 14
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How immature.
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17/12/2020 15:20:09 9 7
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A new budget and a No Deal Brexit fiasco. Happy 2021 everyone! And we thought this year was bad...
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17/12/2020 15:29:57 2 5
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Cheer up Teddy......all will be well.
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17/12/2020 15:20:28 34 15
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Does the government actually have a plan for how to deal with the pandemic and the ensuing havoc it has caused by its actions? How long before the virus pandemic is no longer an "emergency" but a "way of life", and we cannot continue to lock ourselves up indefinitely, hoping it will go away.
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17/12/2020 15:29:21 37 38
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Well Starmer has no plan for anything.
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17/12/2020 17:08:04 3 8
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All I hear is labour criticising the government - but not actually coming up with any other ideas or plans. What would we have done if Corbyn was in power?
If people did as they were asked, we wouldn't be in this mess.
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17/12/2020 15:20:33 2 2
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Furlough extended should hopefully be a safety net, rather than Sunak hinting at something the rest of us don't currently know.

My hope is that we are well through the vaccination programme by April and more of society can inch back to normal.
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17/12/2020 15:20:42 17 8
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Endless furlough and a budget don't mix

Tax rises for the poor coming soon
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17/12/2020 15:33:08 12 1
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More the middle class who get squeezed by income tax hikes, unless they increase the regressive taxes like VAT or fuel duty as well.
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17/12/2020 16:01:39 2 4
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One thing is for sure - the richest 1% won't pay a penny. Tories are so corrupt it defies belief.
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17/12/2020 15:20:50 14 10
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Who's going to deliver the Budget? Sunak will be PM by then.
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17/12/2020 15:47:23 0 2
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He sounds a bit like Blair don't you think?
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17/12/2020 15:20:51 19 6
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Sunak also extends furlough scheme to end of April but the PM has previously said that the aim was to return to normality by Easter. Easter Sunday is on 4th April so is furlough part of the "new normal" ?
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17/12/2020 16:16:12 4 5
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'aim' do yourself a favour and look up the definition.
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18/12/2020 06:54:56 2 0
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You don't actually believe the PM and the chancellor speak to each other do you. Sunak can not get a word in edgewise
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17/12/2020 15:17:38 5 10
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More than likely there won't be tax rises.

What will happen is the treasury will likely make a fair bit of money on the import tariffs they will need to apply due to Brexit.
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17/12/2020 15:21:03 6 2
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Gov. only gets money from import tariffs if consumers (us) still buy the goods with inflated prices.
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17/12/2020 15:18:34 9 8
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Rishi is the only politician that appears to be coming out of this pandemic with any merit.
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17/12/2020 15:21:29 13 4
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If you mean spending money like it's water
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17/12/2020 15:22:35 40 8
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Yeah here we go, tax the poorer motorists to subsidise the Electric car drivers.
We know its coming, and its a pretty disgusting way to treat people who cannot afford an EV car.
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17/12/2020 15:27:52 7 41
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Silly munchie.
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17/12/2020 15:46:32 7 3
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Oh well, at least it will keep the child labourers in the DRC in work, and I'm sure the planet doesn't mind being stripped or lithium, cobalt and nickel. Electric cars whoo!!
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17/12/2020 16:25:21 2 8
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In about two years time battery cars will reach price equivalence with ICE cars. The sooner we get filthy polluting petrol and diesels of the road the better.
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17/12/2020 17:21:31 8 1
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Fuel duty's been frozen for about a decade, contrary to the Government's claim it wants us to switch to electric cars.
But over the next few budgets, I expect fuel duty to rocket, along with every other tax they can think of - nothing to do with EVs, just trying to recoup some of the deficit.
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18/12/2020 08:17:05 5 0
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Electric cars are an absolute waste of time, now the government suddenly realise that they will loose 30 billion a year in fuel duty by switching to electric crap cars.
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17/12/2020 15:23:11 21 1
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"There are only two things certain in this life, death and taxes" (Benjamin Franklin.)
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17/12/2020 15:25:45 35 2
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Until Tax Evasion was discovered!
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17/12/2020 15:28:44 2 1
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And nurses!
tell that to amazon , n the royal vermin that we are born to wave at Removed
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17/12/2020 15:24:23 66 25
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Interesting (but also shameful) article currently running in NY Times about cronyism and awarding of contracts to the chumocracy by the ruling junta in the UK - will Sunak account for or even explain this?
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17/12/2020 15:27:08 26 68
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Grow up and educate yourself.
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17/12/2020 15:37:59 8 21
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I think the NY Times should look a little closer to home before dishing out the accusations.
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17/12/2020 16:25:18 5 13
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The New York Times is the USA's version of the Guardian, full of conspiracy stories.
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18/12/2020 12:42:23 1 0
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We are deeply complacent about corruption in the UK. In general the UK compares badly for transparency with the USA and many other countries. City of London is undoubtedly the most corrupt of the major financial centres having taken over the role from the Swiss in the 1980's.
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17/12/2020 15:25:00 86 16
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Hopefully he will introduce a one off supertax for PPE middlemen, covis contractors like SERCO, supermarkets and online retail giants who have reaped the financial benefits of Covid 19 in spades.
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17/12/2020 15:26:49 31 5
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Supermarkets?
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17/12/2020 15:44:36 17 3
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We could all take our own stance by avoiding giving wads of cash to the likes of Amazon. Jeff Bezos's ex-wife was being lauded for giving billions to charity recently, but with many more billions to hand thanks to her being married to Jeff, it is somewhat affordable for her. That money could have been in the pockets of the many, who actually worked for it.
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17/12/2020 16:19:59 22 15
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Most supermarkets have repaid their government assistance, and home deliveries are a loss maker for them. I think there should be a supertax on bloated public sector pensions personally.
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17/12/2020 16:23:29 9 6
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Dream on.
Hitting Tory shareholders?
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It's an ill-wind......................
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And his rich wife....
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17/12/2020 17:12:54 1 1
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I run an online retail website, the cost of our warehouse and the amount we pay Google to be one page one is more than we would pay for a shop in rent and business rates, being cheaper is a myth
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And SAGE and PHE.
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18/12/2020 09:00:33 3 0
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It is not likely that there will be a supertax on PPE middlemen or the likes of secro. Thats their pals. People like Anthony page, head of PPE Medpro. A company that didn't exist until May this year but was given £122 million contract. Whats Tony's other job? Hiding the wealthy's money from the taxman. He lives on the Isle of Man by the way so don't think you can tax him.
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17/12/2020 15:25:24 8 2
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Don't fret guys, we will just keep printing the Wonga. (shortest budget speech ever)
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17/12/2020 15:23:11 21 1
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"There are only two things certain in this life, death and taxes" (Benjamin Franklin.)
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17/12/2020 15:25:45 35 2
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Until Tax Evasion was discovered!
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17/12/2020 15:26:39 7 2
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It's rumoured there's going to be a huge tax on Scotch Eggs.
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17/12/2020 15:25:00 86 16
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Hopefully he will introduce a one off supertax for PPE middlemen, covis contractors like SERCO, supermarkets and online retail giants who have reaped the financial benefits of Covid 19 in spades.
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17/12/2020 15:26:49 31 5
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Supermarkets?
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17/12/2020 15:36:48 20 6
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Yes, whilst high street retail shops were in lockdown they were selling everything plus the kitchen sink!!
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17/12/2020 15:24:23 66 25
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Interesting (but also shameful) article currently running in NY Times about cronyism and awarding of contracts to the chumocracy by the ruling junta in the UK - will Sunak account for or even explain this?
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17/12/2020 15:27:08 26 68
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Grow up and educate yourself.
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17/12/2020 15:35:01 25 5
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Are you implying the journalists on the New York Times are infantile - I am simplying directing people to something they may find of interest - you obviously do not like me doing this - why?
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17/12/2020 15:59:57 1 6
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you mean eradicate yourself
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17/12/2020 16:24:12 5 19
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It is a leftie poster. They don't believe in education, because that would lead to some people performing better than others, which would be an 'inequality'. Their aim is to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. Fortunately we have excellent public schools that nurture prodigiously talented people like Mr Sunak.
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18/12/2020 08:35:51 3 0
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It seems that the one needing educating is you...
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17/12/2020 15:19:23 6 9
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"...next date of budget"

Hopefully after I'm dead! This country is now bankrupt.
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17/12/2020 15:27:39 6 1
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Thank you Moscow but it isn't.
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17/12/2020 15:22:35 40 8
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Yeah here we go, tax the poorer motorists to subsidise the Electric car drivers.
We know its coming, and its a pretty disgusting way to treat people who cannot afford an EV car.
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17/12/2020 15:27:52 7 41
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Silly munchie.
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17/12/2020 16:26:24 6 7
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There are a lot of silly lefty posters on here today. Demonstrating why Labour will never win another general election. They just post rubbish slogans without ever resorting to research and facts.
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17/12/2020 15:23:20 2 11
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We need to break up the Unified Kingdom. For too long Whales, Island and Skotland have sponged off the mighty England and I for one am absolutely sick of it. Its a dog eat dog world out there and everyone's invited.
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17/12/2020 15:31:29 8 2
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Is your misspelling deliberate or am I missing the joke?
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17/12/2020 15:40:32 2 1
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Comedy gold.
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17/12/2020 15:20:50 14 10
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Who's going to deliver the Budget? Sunak will be PM by then.
Stupid idiot.....Boris is great. Removed
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17/12/2020 15:31:03 1 1
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You know what they say about double negatives...
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17/12/2020 15:29:08 10 5
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Maybe by March next year the government helpline on Brexit will contain some actual information.

I rang it today and it was just a recorded message of a clown saying the British bulldog will prosper mightily in the sunlit uplands.
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17/12/2020 15:20:28 34 15
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Does the government actually have a plan for how to deal with the pandemic and the ensuing havoc it has caused by its actions? How long before the virus pandemic is no longer an "emergency" but a "way of life", and we cannot continue to lock ourselves up indefinitely, hoping it will go away.
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17/12/2020 15:29:21 37 38
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Well Starmer has no plan for anything.
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17/12/2020 15:48:24 8 7
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I had high hopes for him, but he looks a bit... empty.
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17/12/2020 16:26:33 8 6
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His plan was to lockdown including schools during the October half term. He would have had testing at airports sooner(we still don’t have a working test system for global tourists).

But you keep echoing the line from former journalist Boris
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17/12/2020 16:30:27 4 4
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Are you sure he's not a Liberal Democrat?
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17/12/2020 16:35:25 2 10
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Labour supporters think Mr Starmer is just biding his time, keeping his powder dry. But there isn't much point in keeping the powder dry, because I don't think there is any shot or wadding to go down the barrel after the powder.
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17/12/2020 16:42:09 9 3
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Educate yourself - that's Boris' job
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17/12/2020 16:50:02 9 2
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He doesn't need one, Tories control Parliament with majority. Boris needs the plan, not Kier.
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18/12/2020 07:42:52 3 0
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So what? 80 seat majority blah blah blah so Johnson can do whatever he likes. Shame Johnson seems so clueless, apart from knowing who to bung the Covid billions to, and his cabinet are just as clueless as him.
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18/12/2020 09:32:48 0 0
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Well he doesn't need to, he's not in power. Let the tories continue to show their true wicked colours.
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18/12/2020 13:15:47 0 0
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So wrong BUT as you obviously failed the education system, it’s no surprise you post rubbish like that.
Be proud of you ignorance, others will smile.
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17/12/2020 15:20:09 9 7
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A new budget and a No Deal Brexit fiasco. Happy 2021 everyone! And we thought this year was bad...
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17/12/2020 15:29:57 2 5
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Cheer up Teddy......all will be well.
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17/12/2020 15:19:44 21 8
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The biggest can kick in history..........just wait until they raid us for cash for their incompetence.
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17/12/2020 15:30:22 7 14
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How immature.
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17/12/2020 15:18:34 9 8
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Rishi is the only politician that appears to be coming out of this pandemic with any merit.
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17/12/2020 15:30:28 4 1
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It's easier to spend money and be popular than it is to make cuts/raise taxes and be popular.

That said in terms of his ability to strike tone and read the room he is quite good.

His real test is going to be the 2022-2023 and onwards budgets when he'll have to balance books which already had a deficit, with larger debt servicing payments.
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17/12/2020 15:30:37 1 3
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So we're continuing to give false hope to people who's jobs don't exist outside government subsidy.
Are they going double the self employed wages again(most are still working)
No doubt the 'excluded' will also pipe up again-a small number of wealthy directors looking for a slice of the pie - despite earnings of over 200k per annum on average! Thank god Rishi has stood firm with these chancers??
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17/12/2020 15:19:23 6 9
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"...next date of budget"

Hopefully after I'm dead! This country is now bankrupt.
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17/12/2020 15:30:40 1 2
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We hope so too.
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18/12/2020 08:40:38 0 0
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What a Jezza
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17/12/2020 15:30:47 11 6
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This will really show you what a mess the Government is in!!!
Stupid idiot.....Boris is great. Removed
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17/12/2020 15:31:03 1 1
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You know what they say about double negatives...
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17/12/2020 15:18:34 9 8
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Rishi is the only politician that appears to be coming out of this pandemic with any merit.
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17/12/2020 15:31:07 2 3
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Yes he is good......well said.
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17/12/2020 15:23:20 2 11
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We need to break up the Unified Kingdom. For too long Whales, Island and Skotland have sponged off the mighty England and I for one am absolutely sick of it. Its a dog eat dog world out there and everyone's invited.
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17/12/2020 15:31:29 8 2
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Is your misspelling deliberate or am I missing the joke?
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17/12/2020 15:16:54 87 39
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Still throwing money away to try an become the next PM

At some point furlough money wasted will needed to be repaid

An those paying the most will not have had a penny off it
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17/12/2020 15:31:39 29 38
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Silly Panda
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17/12/2020 15:44:07 12 9
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The word you are looking for is correct
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17/12/2020 16:01:14 13 7
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Silly Michael
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17/12/2020 15:23:11 21 1
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"There are only two things certain in this life, death and taxes" (Benjamin Franklin.)
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17/12/2020 15:28:44 2 1
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And nurses!
Stupid idiot.....Boris is great. Removed
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17/12/2020 15:20:42 17 8
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Endless furlough and a budget don't mix

Tax rises for the poor coming soon
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17/12/2020 15:33:08 12 1
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More the middle class who get squeezed by income tax hikes, unless they increase the regressive taxes like VAT or fuel duty as well.
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17/12/2020 16:10:48 2 4
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Add the Poll Tax lite, aka 'Council' Tax to that list of regressive taxes. It bears no relevance to the ability to pay and the overcrowding it causes just a promotes the spread of Covid 19.
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17/12/2020 16:32:31 2 1
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If VAT goes up, the JAM will be on gruel, if that.
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17/12/2020 15:33:33 13 2
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Hopefully we will know where we are with Brexit by then

Probably not though
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18/12/2020 09:28:04 0 0
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'Hopefully we will know where we are with Brexit by then'

That wil take many years, even after 'a decision' has been made.
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17/12/2020 15:34:11 6 4
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Ahhh little Rishi been revising his plans again, been a few weeks since the last refresh, as if he hasn't got a clue.......
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17/12/2020 15:34:47 33 7
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That's it tax the man on the street AGAIN instead off making the billionaires pay there full amount instead of hiding it in tax havens but I think the chancellor amongst others might no something about that
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17/12/2020 16:21:58 29 21
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The bulk of taxes are already paid by the wealthy. But I suppose it was beyond you simple sloganeering to find out where tax is actually raised from.
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17/12/2020 16:23:53 10 4
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His family are multi millionaires, he himself was a hedge fund manager. Why would he tax his family and mates?
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Half of all income tax paid in this country is paid by the top 5%.

How much more would you like to tax them? Should they pay 75%? Or 90%? Put a figure on it that seems fair to you...
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17/12/2020 17:17:28 2 1
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Governments will never pay this back by taxing the very rich, its too easy to move to another country with lower tax and work from there. My desk could be anywhere in the world, they have to increase the standard rate of income tax from 20% to 21 or 22%
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True.
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18/12/2020 08:21:19 2 0
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AAAH you can see into the future and you know who and what he's going to tax, can you let us all know, i want to invest my peanuts into something safe....
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Grow up and educate yourself.
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17/12/2020 15:35:01 25 5
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Are you implying the journalists on the New York Times are infantile - I am simplying directing people to something they may find of interest - you obviously do not like me doing this - why?
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17/12/2020 15:35:32 6 3
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Budget delayed. Stocks of golden unicorns stuck at Calais. Continent cut off.
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When is China going to pay for THEIR negligence?
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17/12/2020 15:38:26 11 16
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As soon as Britain pays for its colonial past.
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17/12/2020 15:39:12 4 2
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I don't the Chinese Government is too worried. We can elect to stop buying their stuff if we choose though...
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17/12/2020 16:04:03 5 5
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When are you going to accept that it was our own fault for not adequately preparing enough for a virus that we KNEW was coming. The UK was the negligent party here.
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17/12/2020 16:03:23 6 4
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China aren't responsible for Boris dithering at every turn.
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17/12/2020 15:36:35 53 19
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The rich don't pay tax as all their money is offshore, the benefit scroungers never pay tax so its left to the workers to foot the bill.
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17/12/2020 15:42:56 33 32
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What you mean benefit scroungers get their fags, booze, mobile phone subs and wide screen TV.s without paying VAT and duty? How do they mange that?
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17/12/2020 16:49:14 8 10
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by benifit scroungers do you mean the hundreds of thousands that were made redundant in June through no fault of their own or do you mean the etonian gravy dribblers and the child abusing royals , ?
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They are not scroungers most of them are in a bad place. Vacancies are lower than ever and we have not had the fall out from Brexit.

The real scroungers are millionaires taking benefits they dont need.
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"Benefit Scroungers" So if you lose your job you consider yourself a benefit scrounger even though you have paid your taxes, you have a lot to learn.
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Just listen to yourself
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17/12/2020 17:15:07 8 3
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I'm not bad off, this continual lie about offshore is damaging and not true. If you put money offshore and fail to tell HMRC and thus pay the tax due, you are breaking the law and should be prosecuted. The tories closed all of these loopholes in 2010/11. Please stop fibbing
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Supermarkets?
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17/12/2020 15:36:48 20 6
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Yes, whilst high street retail shops were in lockdown they were selling everything plus the kitchen sink!!
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17/12/2020 16:29:16 11 2
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And recruiting loads of extra staff to pick stock and increase deliveries with additional vans. With a little research you will see that despite increased revenue their profits are significantly down due to the additional cost associated with Covid reflected in their share prices being down YOY.
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18/12/2020 08:34:35 0 1
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Kitchen sink? You must shop in Aldi!
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17/12/2020 15:36:54 24 2
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And to think income tax was only a temporary measure until Napoleon was defeated. You can bet the temporary measures and powers bought in to defeat covid will still be around in 200 years. Cannt see the police or politicians handing back those powers in the same way income tax never got repealed after Waterloo.
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17/12/2020 15:50:55 6 8
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they'll have to relax things, people wont accept anything else. They'll be revolution if they try to keep all the rules. But I it has happened before, closing time at pubs was introduced as a temporary measure during WW1 to ensure workers were not too hungover to work in the arms factories. But it's more likely people will CHOOSE to keep doing things like we are now to avoid things like the flu.
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17/12/2020 15:37:45 12 4
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Sunak has presided over one of the murkiest episodes in British history. He might have some credibility if he had stepped in and stopped the grotesque manner in which taxpayers’ money has been spent. Instead his reputation will be that of the Chancellor who facilitated deeply shocking misspending.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/17/world/europe/britain-covid-contracts.html
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Is that why a month ago the,IM F said that the UK economic response to the pandemic was the best in th e World, one which other should copy?
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17/12/2020 15:37:51 10 7
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I don't see how it is ethical for schemes such as Gift Aid to continue when we are borrowing the money simply to give it away. The government rightly cut the foreign aid budget by 0.2% of GDP, why are we borrowing upwards of £300 million a give away in good faith to charities, some of which fraudulently claim such funds
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SG
17/12/2020 15:45:16 5 3
bbc
I don’t see the ethics of reducing international Development budget. And how about measuring this against the figure that companies and individuals have taken in Covid support grants? That is unethical to rob the taxpayer.
20
17/12/2020 15:24:23 66 25
bbc
Interesting (but also shameful) article currently running in NY Times about cronyism and awarding of contracts to the chumocracy by the ruling junta in the UK - will Sunak account for or even explain this?
57
17/12/2020 15:37:59 8 21
bbc
I think the NY Times should look a little closer to home before dishing out the accusations.
62
17/12/2020 15:40:41 16 5
bbc
These "accusations" have also appeared over time on the BBC - the NY times has simply put them into one article - why are people so scared of criticism?
72
17/12/2020 15:46:06 18 4
bbc
Classic whataboutism. Ignore the substance of the cronyism charges that the NYTimes has evidenced and deflect onto another subject altogether (in this case where they’re primarily located).
51
17/12/2020 15:35:57 11 9
bbc
When is China going to pay for THEIR negligence?
58
17/12/2020 15:38:26 11 16
bbc
As soon as Britain pays for its colonial past.
194
17/12/2020 16:48:32 3 2
bbc
Why should the British working classes pay for Britain's colonial past?
Remember Britain was STILL repaying the debt of the 2nd world war into the early 2000's.
Has Japan paid for it's colonial past?
Has Germany paid for it's colonial past?
276
17/12/2020 17:48:28 1 1
bbc
Aah, one of 'those'.
20
17/12/2020 15:24:23 66 25
bbc
Interesting (but also shameful) article currently running in NY Times about cronyism and awarding of contracts to the chumocracy by the ruling junta in the UK - will Sunak account for or even explain this?
51
17/12/2020 15:35:57 11 9
bbc
When is China going to pay for THEIR negligence?
60
17/12/2020 15:39:12 4 2
bbc
I don't the Chinese Government is too worried. We can elect to stop buying their stuff if we choose though...
29
17/12/2020 15:23:20 2 11
bbc
We need to break up the Unified Kingdom. For too long Whales, Island and Skotland have sponged off the mighty England and I for one am absolutely sick of it. Its a dog eat dog world out there and everyone's invited.
61
17/12/2020 15:40:32 2 1
bbc
Comedy gold.
57
17/12/2020 15:37:59 8 21
bbc
I think the NY Times should look a little closer to home before dishing out the accusations.
62
17/12/2020 15:40:41 16 5
bbc
These "accusations" have also appeared over time on the BBC - the NY times has simply put them into one article - why are people so scared of criticism?
52
17/12/2020 15:36:35 53 19
bbc
The rich don't pay tax as all their money is offshore, the benefit scroungers never pay tax so its left to the workers to foot the bill.
63
17/12/2020 15:42:56 33 32
bbc
What you mean benefit scroungers get their fags, booze, mobile phone subs and wide screen TV.s without paying VAT and duty? How do they mange that?
125
17/12/2020 16:14:53 14 8
bbc
Because the money they are using is taxpayers money in the first place, some of it is just being returned to the Govt. while the rest of us work hard to fund their lifestyle.
146
17/12/2020 16:25:03 1 5
bbc
Tory handouts?
208
17/12/2020 16:53:43 2 2
bbc
By not having to pay rent or a mortgage
323
18/12/2020 02:30:38 3 0
bbc
You ignorant self righteous right wing tabloid reader. Don’t believe all the stories you read in the Daily Heil, all of which have an agenda.
I’ll bet you’ve never had to survive on benefits. I’d love to see you try.
393
18/12/2020 09:30:42 2 0
bbc
What a totally IGNORANT post.
You obviously failed the education system badly, but in your mind you and the up supporters show what limitations you actually have.
64
17/12/2020 15:43:00 12 6
bbc
End the triple lock, stop subsidising private schools, taxpayer funded handouts to landowners and the fine art scheme, there’s £ 10 billion saved. Next reform directors pay schemes and some of the absurdities around self employment and tax multi nationals there another £25 billion at least, and not one of the above will happen, so all you PAYE suckers will have to cough up again.
96
17/12/2020 15:57:53 9 2
bbc
If you are not one of the 1% top earners who account for 27% of all income tax or one of the top 50% of earners that account for 90% of all income tax you will be safe. The self employed pay tax at the same rates of the PAYE employees but dont have the same job security or holiday pay.
328
18/12/2020 05:01:32 0 2
bbc
They don’t subsidise private schools...
65
17/12/2020 15:43:04 7 11
bbc
As someone born in the early 60s I don't worry about getting Covid. I'm more likely to die of something else in the next year or two than Covid and I don't let worrying about dying stop me living.
I am concerned about the financial consequences of Covid, ever rising council tax, the lefties preventing me having the moderately comfortable retirement I'd hoped for after 40 years hard work
77
17/12/2020 15:48:23 8 4
bbc
Not lefties, fyi the tories have been in power since Brown's demise.
91
17/12/2020 15:55:05 4 1
bbc
Yet if you contracted it you would expect to be hospitalised, in the hope that the doctors and nurses could keep you alive.

You, along with thousands of others would then lead to reduced services being available in hospitals.

It's not all about you.
107
17/12/2020 16:03:10 1 1
bbc
I agree, pensioners in the UK are already paid a pittance compared to other 'civilised' countries, I have no doubt that they will try and claw even more back in the way of income tax. Time to tax the rich!
66
17/12/2020 15:43:45 2 1
bbc
Budget 2021: The magic money tree is no more
42
17/12/2020 15:31:39 29 38
bbc
Silly Panda
67
17/12/2020 15:44:07 12 9
bbc
The word you are looking for is correct
21
17/12/2020 15:25:00 86 16
bbc
Hopefully he will introduce a one off supertax for PPE middlemen, covis contractors like SERCO, supermarkets and online retail giants who have reaped the financial benefits of Covid 19 in spades.
68
17/12/2020 15:44:36 17 3
bbc
We could all take our own stance by avoiding giving wads of cash to the likes of Amazon. Jeff Bezos's ex-wife was being lauded for giving billions to charity recently, but with many more billions to hand thanks to her being married to Jeff, it is somewhat affordable for her. That money could have been in the pockets of the many, who actually worked for it.
145
17/12/2020 16:25:02 5 7
bbc
Not the way capitalism works.

But better than communism.
259
17/12/2020 17:22:02 3 1
bbc
I agree, and although noble, we should remember that she donated that money to US charities yet Amazon raked that money in from all over the world.
We could all avoid the likes of Amazon?
That won't be popular on here. There was a recent HYS about the Christmas TV schedule. The most popular comment was "thank goodness I have Amazon Prime and Netflix."
Netflix took £1.1b out of the UK economy, and paid £0 to the exchequer in taxes. Then again, I suppose Harry and Meghan are grateful to UK subscribers for their £112m Netflix deal.
421
18/12/2020 10:03:21 0 0
bbc
I wonder sometimes how magnanimous these gestures are, if they did not give to charities it would likely go to taxman at some point, so they (super rich) get the kudos at no cost to themselves.
56
17/12/2020 15:37:51 10 7
bbc
I don't see how it is ethical for schemes such as Gift Aid to continue when we are borrowing the money simply to give it away. The government rightly cut the foreign aid budget by 0.2% of GDP, why are we borrowing upwards of £300 million a give away in good faith to charities, some of which fraudulently claim such funds
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SG
17/12/2020 15:45:16 5 3
bbc
I don’t see the ethics of reducing international Development budget. And how about measuring this against the figure that companies and individuals have taken in Covid support grants? That is unethical to rob the taxpayer.
90
17/12/2020 15:54:48 4 3
bbc
Some businesses have, rightly, repaid the support grants offered. Some have even repaid the furlough they claimed. Those businesses should be applauded. However, as much as I agree with foreign aid, borrowing £4 Billion a year to give away makes little sense. We have to repay that with interest. Same applies with schemes like Gift Aid. Some charities are run as if they are monopolies
4
17/12/2020 15:17:52 22 3
bbc
We might even know the brexit deal or no deal by then
70
17/12/2020 15:45:22 12 3
bbc
Don't bet your mortgage on it
71
17/12/2020 15:45:42 7 2
bbc
If I promise to vote tory can I be furloughed too?
57
17/12/2020 15:37:59 8 21
bbc
I think the NY Times should look a little closer to home before dishing out the accusations.
72
17/12/2020 15:46:06 18 4
bbc
Classic whataboutism. Ignore the substance of the cronyism charges that the NYTimes has evidenced and deflect onto another subject altogether (in this case where they’re primarily located).
18
17/12/2020 15:22:35 40 8
bbc
Yeah here we go, tax the poorer motorists to subsidise the Electric car drivers.
We know its coming, and its a pretty disgusting way to treat people who cannot afford an EV car.
73
17/12/2020 15:46:32 7 3
bbc
Oh well, at least it will keep the child labourers in the DRC in work, and I'm sure the planet doesn't mind being stripped or lithium, cobalt and nickel. Electric cars whoo!!
166
17/12/2020 16:27:18 3 5
bbc
The latest generation of car batteries do not use cobalt. But why look up facts when you can shout lefty slogans eh?
14
17/12/2020 15:20:50 14 10
bbc
Who's going to deliver the Budget? Sunak will be PM by then.
74
17/12/2020 15:47:23 0 2
bbc
He sounds a bit like Blair don't you think?
75
17/12/2020 15:47:51 7 4
bbc
Well with the £30 to £40 billion P/A he will be receiving from duties paid on EU goods entering the UK there should be no need to raise taxes any where else .

OH have I let the cat out the bag about No Deal
177
17/12/2020 16:40:07 0 3
bbc
Been banging on about this for 4 years now... No deal is very good for the people and the exchequer.. £30/ £0 bill as you quote, and if we don't want to pay duties, buy British which will boost the coffers from Economic Growth. it's win, win
76
17/12/2020 15:48:09 27 8
bbc
Budget delayed in order to ensure that a new forest of Magical Money Trees can be grown in the estates of the Crony Mansions around the land.
81
17/12/2020 15:49:21 18 23
bbc
Yes they bought the seeds from Corbyn.
277
17/12/2020 17:53:17 0 0
bbc
Tjetr comes a point after nought.
65
17/12/2020 15:43:04 7 11
bbc
As someone born in the early 60s I don't worry about getting Covid. I'm more likely to die of something else in the next year or two than Covid and I don't let worrying about dying stop me living.
I am concerned about the financial consequences of Covid, ever rising council tax, the lefties preventing me having the moderately comfortable retirement I'd hoped for after 40 years hard work
77
17/12/2020 15:48:23 8 4
bbc
Not lefties, fyi the tories have been in power since Brown's demise.
32
17/12/2020 15:29:21 37 38
bbc
Well Starmer has no plan for anything.
78
17/12/2020 15:48:24 8 7
bbc
I had high hopes for him, but he looks a bit... empty.
139
17/12/2020 16:22:51 6 7
bbc
A blancmange has more substance than Starmer.
79
17/12/2020 15:48:38 5 1
bbc
He is not going to have much to play with He as given it all away this Year which as got to be payed back ,I feel sorry for the young people they are the one's who will have to foot the bill
86
17/12/2020 15:51:55 2 3
bbc
Why does it have to be paid back? They magicked the money out of thin air. No one earned that money. We all have to work hard to pay tax because the Bank of England has been given a monopoly on counterfeiting our money?

How about we bin off the BofE and spend money into existence rather than borrowing it (with interest) into existence?
94
17/12/2020 15:56:20 2 1
bbc
After a decade of inadequate taxation, it is time for the wealthy to step up to the plate.
80
17/12/2020 15:49:07 6 2
bbc
Budget is a strange word to use for a financial situation where you know the books won't be balanced. Maybe he should call it the next spending spree.
76
17/12/2020 15:48:09 27 8
bbc
Budget delayed in order to ensure that a new forest of Magical Money Trees can be grown in the estates of the Crony Mansions around the land.
81
17/12/2020 15:49:21 18 23
bbc
Yes they bought the seeds from Corbyn.
104
17/12/2020 16:01:26 5 4
bbc
I think you will find that the magic money tree and growth in public sector debt over the past decade came from inadequate taxation by the Tories. Corbyn was never in power.
130
17/12/2020 16:17:38 2 2
bbc
You mean Magic Beans?
134
17/12/2020 16:19:00 1 3
bbc
Yes the has bean.
214
17/12/2020 16:49:33 2 4
bbc
Ah, so that is why he was so busy on his allotment!
291
17/12/2020 18:25:46 0 0
bbc
?
449
18/12/2020 13:19:13 0 0
bbc
Extremely poor attempt at at a deflection post.
82
17/12/2020 15:50:11 7 7
bbc
Have we cut the foreign aid to India's space programme yet?
87
17/12/2020 15:52:42 8 7
bbc
No because it creates investment opportunities for British companies and we're trying to secure a trade deal with India which will include freedom of movement for their nationals to fill our skills shortage.
88
17/12/2020 15:52:50 2 1
bbc
This is trivial. Why not comment on what is important?
54
17/12/2020 15:36:54 24 2
bbc
And to think income tax was only a temporary measure until Napoleon was defeated. You can bet the temporary measures and powers bought in to defeat covid will still be around in 200 years. Cannt see the police or politicians handing back those powers in the same way income tax never got repealed after Waterloo.
83
17/12/2020 15:50:55 6 8
bbc
they'll have to relax things, people wont accept anything else. They'll be revolution if they try to keep all the rules. But I it has happened before, closing time at pubs was introduced as a temporary measure during WW1 to ensure workers were not too hungover to work in the arms factories. But it's more likely people will CHOOSE to keep doing things like we are now to avoid things like the flu.
256
17/12/2020 17:17:55 1 2
bbc
They've already said it will take a year to vaccinate 'the whole country'. And that people may 'need to be' vaccinated every year. So by the time everybody has been vaccinated and they can stop bankrupting businesses and ruining lives, it'll be time to start vaccinating again, so we'll all still have to stay at home and not see friends or family. The only way we'll get freedom is to take it.
8
17/12/2020 15:19:23 6 9
bbc
"...next date of budget"

Hopefully after I'm dead! This country is now bankrupt.
84
17/12/2020 15:51:25 1 1
bbc
No it isn't. Lots of debt - yes - but at least we have monetary policy control to help us manage it.... unlike the countries in the Euro-zone. There'll be a few Greece-like scenarios, I'll warrant.
85
17/12/2020 15:51:49 17 8
bbc
Sunak has already ruled out a wealth tax which we know would affect him. We also know that just a 1% tax on wealth over £1million would generate a massive £240bn.

Over the past decade we have had inadequate taxation leading to escalating public sector debt and inefficient wealth distribution. It now looks as though we will have more of the same with debt worsening further.
98
17/12/2020 15:58:39 9 3
bbc
He will probably take money off pensioners instead.
108
17/12/2020 16:03:45 4 3
bbc
It would not affect him much, as him and his wife have their money stashed away in Tax Havens such as Mauritius. (IMM) for example. The amount of business activity worth Billions that he is involved in that has not been declared to the HOC is staggering !
110
17/12/2020 16:04:04 0 1
bbc
I do not fall into any wealth tax bracket by some distance but IMHO any wealth tax has to exclude the family home and the value of any family business in the valuation of that wealth because neither can be turned into cash to pay any tax. Apart from that caveat I would cautiously agree on a tax preferably on a sliding scale so 10m+ sees a higher rate and 100m+ a bigger one etc.
135
17/12/2020 16:19:53 5 1
bbc
‘We also know that just a 1% tax on wealth over £1million would generate a massive £240bn’

That was one economical opinion.

Real life statistical data on wealth taxes reveal that they cause a loss in tax revenue due to a combination of people leaving, lowering spending or putting money into non taxable assets. France is the case in point, they lost 2€ in other tax for 1€ tax raised on wealth.
202
17/12/2020 16:50:18 3 1
bbc
Sounds good except the £1m includes the total value of your home ( not equity) the total value of all pension funds within the house, none of which can have cash taken out off without costs/losses, it's proposed at 1% each year for 5 yrs. Ends up as a massive 5 yr income tax hike , up 60% of gross pay for some . And the rich 1% will be laughing at us from Monaco, so the limit will drop to £0.5m.
279
17/12/2020 17:56:30 1 1
bbc
So are you saying that Sunak has ruled out a wealth tax because he would have to pay it himself? And you think that taxation in this country is too low? iI you want to pay more tax, go ahead and make a donation to the Treasury.
299
17/12/2020 19:43:57 3 0
bbc
You really should read the full report. It's 5% tax spread out over 5 years, starting on assets over £ 500 000. This includes the value of your main home, saving, investments and pensions. Seems like a low bar to me.
79
17/12/2020 15:48:38 5 1
bbc
He is not going to have much to play with He as given it all away this Year which as got to be payed back ,I feel sorry for the young people they are the one's who will have to foot the bill
86
17/12/2020 15:51:55 2 3
bbc
Why does it have to be paid back? They magicked the money out of thin air. No one earned that money. We all have to work hard to pay tax because the Bank of England has been given a monopoly on counterfeiting our money?

How about we bin off the BofE and spend money into existence rather than borrowing it (with interest) into existence?
82
17/12/2020 15:50:11 7 7
bbc
Have we cut the foreign aid to India's space programme yet?
87
17/12/2020 15:52:42 8 7
bbc
No because it creates investment opportunities for British companies and we're trying to secure a trade deal with India which will include freedom of movement for their nationals to fill our skills shortage.
82
17/12/2020 15:50:11 7 7
bbc
Have we cut the foreign aid to India's space programme yet?
88
17/12/2020 15:52:50 2 1
bbc
This is trivial. Why not comment on what is important?
7
17/12/2020 15:19:15 13 11
bbc
Not looking forward to paying for Tory cronyism, COVID mistakes and Brexit...
89
17/12/2020 15:52:55 5 5
bbc
Nice activism. Have a cookie ??
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SG
17/12/2020 15:45:16 5 3
bbc
I don’t see the ethics of reducing international Development budget. And how about measuring this against the figure that companies and individuals have taken in Covid support grants? That is unethical to rob the taxpayer.
90
17/12/2020 15:54:48 4 3
bbc
Some businesses have, rightly, repaid the support grants offered. Some have even repaid the furlough they claimed. Those businesses should be applauded. However, as much as I agree with foreign aid, borrowing £4 Billion a year to give away makes little sense. We have to repay that with interest. Same applies with schemes like Gift Aid. Some charities are run as if they are monopolies
65
17/12/2020 15:43:04 7 11
bbc
As someone born in the early 60s I don't worry about getting Covid. I'm more likely to die of something else in the next year or two than Covid and I don't let worrying about dying stop me living.
I am concerned about the financial consequences of Covid, ever rising council tax, the lefties preventing me having the moderately comfortable retirement I'd hoped for after 40 years hard work
91
17/12/2020 15:55:05 4 1
bbc
Yet if you contracted it you would expect to be hospitalised, in the hope that the doctors and nurses could keep you alive.

You, along with thousands of others would then lead to reduced services being available in hospitals.

It's not all about you.
193
17/12/2020 16:47:55 0 1
bbc
I suspect I'm not old enough to be hospitalized from Covid. to be clear, its certainly not stopping me doing my bit to stop the spread and stop others getting it. For impact on my own health I just don't worry about it.
92
17/12/2020 15:55:16 4 2
bbc
Vote Tory yet Corbyn on roids. Suddenly that free internet doesn’t look that insane with a debt never seen by the U.K. in its history
152
17/12/2020 16:28:00 2 3
bbc
Most EU countries now have debts never seen before.
93
17/12/2020 15:55:24 22 9
bbc
It's time for the taxman to declare all-out war on tax thieves like Amazon, Vodafone and Virgin. But no, they'd rather go after IT contractors and Mums and Dads who bought some Bitcoin.
151
17/12/2020 16:27:19 12 4
bbc
Problem is people knock them but are the same hypocrites that buy from these companies.
273
17/12/2020 17:48:48 1 0
bbc
Mums and Dads are much easier tax targets.
79
17/12/2020 15:48:38 5 1
bbc
He is not going to have much to play with He as given it all away this Year which as got to be payed back ,I feel sorry for the young people they are the one's who will have to foot the bill
94
17/12/2020 15:56:20 2 1
bbc
After a decade of inadequate taxation, it is time for the wealthy to step up to the plate.
120
17/12/2020 16:09:21 2 1
bbc
After the banking crisis George Osborne sorted the deficit out by reducing the tax rate for the wealthy and increased VAT for everybody. The real clincher was to herald austerity. Well austerity has already been reintroduced, what odds on the other features- after all it is the Tory way?
95
17/12/2020 15:57:49 2 6
bbc
Brace yourself for another present from Brexit.
64
17/12/2020 15:43:00 12 6
bbc
End the triple lock, stop subsidising private schools, taxpayer funded handouts to landowners and the fine art scheme, there’s £ 10 billion saved. Next reform directors pay schemes and some of the absurdities around self employment and tax multi nationals there another £25 billion at least, and not one of the above will happen, so all you PAYE suckers will have to cough up again.
96
17/12/2020 15:57:53 9 2
bbc
If you are not one of the 1% top earners who account for 27% of all income tax or one of the top 50% of earners that account for 90% of all income tax you will be safe. The self employed pay tax at the same rates of the PAYE employees but dont have the same job security or holiday pay.
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17/12/2020 16:05:30 2 2
bbc
You misquote statistics like a Tory, dig a little deeper on your statics you might be surprised, if you don’t think self employment need reform you need your head examined or you’ve become a director for tax purposes.
97
17/12/2020 15:58:13 0 3
bbc
get ready for 92% income tax boys and girl.
286
17/12/2020 18:18:41 1 0
bbc
& watch everyone make use of their new duel citizenship & leave.....
85
17/12/2020 15:51:49 17 8
bbc
Sunak has already ruled out a wealth tax which we know would affect him. We also know that just a 1% tax on wealth over £1million would generate a massive £240bn.

Over the past decade we have had inadequate taxation leading to escalating public sector debt and inefficient wealth distribution. It now looks as though we will have more of the same with debt worsening further.
98
17/12/2020 15:58:39 9 3
bbc
He will probably take money off pensioners instead.
171
17/12/2020 16:36:40 2 1
bbc
Not if he
wants to be re-elected.
With brexit done, he still needs them.
99
17/12/2020 15:59:00 15 3
bbc
Millions have been excluded from any support all year. Whats the betting they'll be the first expected to pay the increased taxes while those who've made billions from the pandemic will hide their profits away.
26
17/12/2020 15:27:08 26 68
bbc
Grow up and educate yourself.
100
17/12/2020 15:59:57 1 6
bbc
you mean eradicate yourself