Staggered return for England's secondary schools next term
17/12/2020 | news | education | 1,428
Secondary school pupils could face a first week of term online as schools set up Covid testing.
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17/12/2020 13:08:06 199 13
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....all announced with 1 day to plan!!

Where to start???
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17/12/2020 13:15:10 117 7
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Not actually announced! Just a thing the BBC has learned!
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Bob
17/12/2020 13:20:07 7 26
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January starts in one day? Crickey, I missed Christmas, were the TV specials any good?
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17/12/2020 13:57:02 10 1
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That is being generous. The official advice is not yet out so in reality there is about 3 hours available to read, plan and organise a response. All while worrying about the current outbreaks, having no additional funding and staff off because the are self isolating or actually have the illness.
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17/12/2020 14:16:03 1 18
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It's not just announced, it was announced at the start of the week and it's 2 1/2 three weeks until the start of next term which is to be staggered. (meaning children will miss even more teaching)
Never let it be said reality got in the way of teachers moaning and finding ways to avoid helping children.
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17/12/2020 14:17:59 0 5
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If the arrangements to support this in schools are not in place why do the schools need to know?

2 weeks more planning for civil servants, delay opening to give schools tome to implement what has been thought through properly then bring the kids back in a controlled manner.

Sounds reasonable to me.
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17/12/2020 14:57:56 0 0
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Schools were advised to close as of today so tracing can be managed before Christmas.
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17/12/2020 15:01:38 2 3
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NO they have 2 weeks!
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17/12/2020 15:43:59 1 0
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It’s not even been announced yet, only leaked.
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17/12/2020 13:08:38 185 13
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Williamson has lost the plot. At least hancock and Johnson can hide behind unprecedented. Starts the week by threatening schools staggering their times and working online, to end the week by passing off their idea as his own..and only months after “school kids can’t spread it” ideology
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17/12/2020 13:23:17 57 22
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Sturgeon can’t even admit that schools are a problem at all. When Liverpool did mass testing 25% of positive tests had no symptoms. It led to more self isolation rather than less.
When all those teachers stay at home schools will have to close and not before time.
18/12/2020 07:26:54 0 0
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Williamson should resign
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17/12/2020 13:08:48 30 18
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Much better to put learning online until Easter, by which time the majority of the vulnerable groups will have been vaccinated.
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jki
17/12/2020 13:10:30 30 46
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Much better to just stop pretending this is te black death and get back to normal asap
17/12/2020 21:30:18 1 1
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No make the vulnerable stay at home. Why are we always prioritising the vulnerable few over the majority?
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17/12/2020 13:10:27 21 15
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Why not just keep schools closed all January (should have finished a week early for Christmas) when cases are going to skyrocket. Then do away with the pointless week off in Feb and make up the time with reducing Easter holidays to a week, scrap the May holiday and finishing for summer a week later.
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17/12/2020 13:12:40 13 11
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And find all the teachers in A & E with heart attacks. Good plan... saves on the pension for sure.
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17/12/2020 13:12:35 6 2
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You do know teachers have been working throughout this and often lost holidays due to isolation?
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17/12/2020 13:10:30 7 11
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Hopefully when the system falls apart, the government can blame teachers for testing the "wrong people" or something similar.
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17/12/2020 13:12:19 8 2
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That's what you hope, is it? How odd.
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17/12/2020 13:08:48 30 18
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Much better to put learning online until Easter, by which time the majority of the vulnerable groups will have been vaccinated.
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jki
17/12/2020 13:10:30 30 46
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Much better to just stop pretending this is te black death and get back to normal asap
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17/12/2020 13:13:40 7 4
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Here we go again......zzzzzzzzzzz
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17/12/2020 13:19:02 7 6
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Develop some empathy
17/12/2020 18:51:34 2 0
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True it isn't, but then again you're not elderly or vulnerable are you. Nor do you read up on the history of pandemics before the modern age otherwise you'd not be so complacent.
17/12/2020 18:56:24 1 1
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Guess you don't work in a school.
18/12/2020 04:24:45 0 0
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Your normal is bad and needs to change. It should never be gone backwards to. Cease all travel without full locked up quarantine at the reckless traveller's expense. Shops will die out anyway, so that bit is self solving. Just need to stop eating out at vast cost, and forcing children into disease riddled herds at schools. Not just one virus out there.
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17/12/2020 13:11:32 10 6
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Makes sense as cases are rising & are expected to rise sharply
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17/12/2020 13:19:40 14 1
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I'm not so sure they will. The people in my house (NHS worker, school teacher, college student and school pupil) have been mixing daily with dozens and dozens of different people from multiple households. Spending two weeks only mixing with a handful of known people whilst taking precautions will most likely be the safest period of time we have experienced since March!!
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17/12/2020 13:11:49 53 10
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The first two weeks back to work after Christmas I am going to wear my mask the whole time in the classroom & corridors. It's going to be a high risk time for all learners & staff if everyone has been away mixing lots. Hopefully things will get better next year.
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17/12/2020 15:33:30 12 56
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Even at 63 I'm so not worried about this virus that I would happily walk up and down between each bed of a packed covid ward without a mask.

BBC film crew please note I'm deadly serious. It's about time we had something to counter the scaremongering.
17/12/2020 18:47:44 0 4
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You should be in line for the best comedy award. Yet another comment based on fear rather than fact!
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17/12/2020 13:11:54 147 13
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Impractical and infunded, this is a policy which is doomed to fail.

Schools have no time, space or staff to undertake daily tests.
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17/12/2020 14:59:08 75 3
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It's almost like the government didn't bother consulting with any of those affected by this policy, and just made an announcement on twitter and the BBC as the first form of communication to everyone.

But surely they would never be that disorganized and useless..
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Bob
17/12/2020 15:11:04 1 4
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If they don't have the space or time then why have they been asking for it?
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17/12/2020 15:23:17 9 1
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Schools keep coming up with clever coping strategies which leaves the Education dept sure that whatever imposition is thrown next, school heads and staff will deliver even if at great inconvenience to themselves. (without reward) Change, Change, Change, at the whim of the existing and next, education minister and advisors, who understand little about how schools work.
17/12/2020 21:34:01 0 1
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And aren’t schools meant to teach? This COVID situation has become dangerously farcical and the real danger is not COVID
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17/12/2020 13:12:07 487 25
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Schools threatened with legal action if they closed a week early before Christmas but it's fine to not open them afterwards. Utter madness
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17/12/2020 13:28:47 173 5
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The Government's own stats show the largest rate of infection was amongst secondary school and University students. Of course, they pass the infection on to others, because that's the way viruses work.
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17/12/2020 13:30:32 14 25
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Agree, it's a shame that government has been pressured into this when in reality so much else should close before schools.

Children get a better education.

It's better for their mental wellbeing.

Working parents can actually work

You don't get postcode lottery of some schools offering good online support with others not so good.

Kids in an environment to learn without home destractions.
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FSG
17/12/2020 13:42:32 19 7
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But the "big" public schools - Eton, Rugby etc - closed far earlier. Gov only bothered about keeping their own kids safe so they can visit the grandparents without fear of infection.
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17/12/2020 13:37:20 19 4
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This is what a tyrannical dictatorship looks like
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17/12/2020 13:58:33 5 0
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Sorry to correct but schools were not closing just moving online. Same for after Christmas but agree with your sentiments.
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17/12/2020 14:13:50 2 2
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Maybe, just maybe, civil servants may have been working on this testing plan.
Maybe they realised that the schools would need time to implement it.
Maybe they planned for the arrangements to support schools would be put in place over Christmas.
Maybe they did not want kids to lose learning both ends of the holiday.
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17/12/2020 16:32:54 1 0
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We all have our opinions and we should all express them but unfortunately when decisions have to be made it is perhaps necessary that someone has the final say otherwise chaos will result.
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17/12/2020 16:33:23 0 1
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Totally agree with you!!
But how can we carry on trusting this government by putting children and teachers ' lives in their hands???
17/12/2020 23:00:37 0 0
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The price of moving more of the country to tier 3... then throwing all that out of the window for Christmas
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17/12/2020 13:12:10 260 11
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I've just helped supervise our students leaving the school and was told to look at this story. Like many that have I have read since March this begs the question: does anyone in government ask those that work in schools? It appears not but I wonder who is advising them to make such decisions.
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17/12/2020 13:28:30 195 15
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Seems quite clear those make the decisions have no understanding of schools. Most of those in government making the decisions went to private school and those with children send them to private school also
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17/12/2020 14:56:13 9 0
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You're definitely not alone, most GPs only found out they had to extend the Flu vaccine roll-out to all over-50's and that they would be arranging Covid vaccinations when they read the article on BBC news.
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17/12/2020 13:10:30 7 11
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Hopefully when the system falls apart, the government can blame teachers for testing the "wrong people" or something similar.
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17/12/2020 13:12:19 8 2
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That's what you hope, is it? How odd.
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17/12/2020 13:14:59 5 1
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Look where the tongue is!
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17/12/2020 13:16:15 1 2
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It's called sarcasm!
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17/12/2020 13:10:27 21 15
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Why not just keep schools closed all January (should have finished a week early for Christmas) when cases are going to skyrocket. Then do away with the pointless week off in Feb and make up the time with reducing Easter holidays to a week, scrap the May holiday and finishing for summer a week later.
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17/12/2020 13:12:40 13 11
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And find all the teachers in A & E with heart attacks. Good plan... saves on the pension for sure.
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17/12/2020 13:13:04 14 22
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When does the NEU ever have anything positive to say and when does it ever put children first. NEVER . I am embarrassed to say I am a member of this shower
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Bob
17/12/2020 13:18:34 8 12
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Because they lean left. They want this measure then cry when it is given. Same tactic as Sadiq Khan. Cried out for tier 3 the day before he got it then cried about how damaging it will be the day after. Just people playing politics.
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17/12/2020 13:25:28 2 1
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What’s your solution ? How about social distancing, ventilation, PPE and extra cleaning ? Or are you really a Covid denier ?
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Tom
17/12/2020 13:26:48 4 1
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Because the main role of the NEU is to look after the interests of their members who are staff. Teachers have been under enormous pressure since the first lockdown being expected to change how they deliver their job at zero notice. They need greater recognition and more support from government to be able to continue delivering high standards of education even in the most challenging circumstances
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17/12/2020 13:13:39 69 8
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Oh good, another last minute announcement with no detail!
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jki
17/12/2020 13:10:30 30 46
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Much better to just stop pretending this is te black death and get back to normal asap
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17/12/2020 13:13:40 7 4
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Here we go again......zzzzzzzzzzz
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17/12/2020 13:13:50 13 2
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I am sure that students will be delighted to have this procedure organised by their head teacher.

In our county, we had school nurses who knew the children in their care. Surely the medical profession takes charge of testing here- obviously working with the head?
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17/12/2020 13:18:10 8 5
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It will be administered by volunteers. Where do you think the medical professionals will come from ? Should they stop doing Covid jabs ? Heads will get 30 minutes online instruction and then train an army of volunteers.
17/12/2020 21:35:53 1 0
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And the health professionals are the ones getting pay rises!!!
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17/12/2020 13:14:48 18 5
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This story should serve as a reminder that while household mixing at Christmas risks spreading Covid more, it’s not the only activity/setting able to increase transmission.

After all schools returning in September helped get infections increasing back then after months off, plus the fact Whitty himself said in September “the seasons are against us”. We shouldn’t blame one thing for everything.
17/12/2020 21:38:02 0 1
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It wasn’t the schools, it was the idiots getting drunk at the pubs as the last lockdown showed when schools stayed open and pubs shut
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17/12/2020 13:12:19 8 2
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That's what you hope, is it? How odd.
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17/12/2020 13:14:59 5 1
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Look where the tongue is!
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17/12/2020 13:08:06 199 13
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....all announced with 1 day to plan!!

Where to start???
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17/12/2020 13:15:10 117 7
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Not actually announced! Just a thing the BBC has learned!
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17/12/2020 13:32:21 7 1
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Correct, he will probably announce it the day after schools break up or the day before they return...
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17/12/2020 13:59:07 9 1
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It was only told to schools moments before.
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17/12/2020 13:15:10 20 8
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Piontless too little too late. Testing is useless. Just pr stunt.

Remote learning being done, may as well be for all. Utterly stupid to have some stuck in disease spreading close confined classroom herds, while the lucky ones are learning from home. Leave being stuck having to use schooling to the bad parents and the poor. Schooling is only better than nothing.

Close schools properly.
17/12/2020 21:49:56 1 2
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Some parents have to work and many are key workers. Why should children have to suffer when risk to them is minimal. If you are frightened of catching it, you can stay at home. No doubt enjoying your triple lock pension that none of us workers will receive because we will be dead by the time we are old enough to retire.
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17/12/2020 13:15:27 34 14
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Government useless, matt Hancock useless
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17/12/2020 13:25:31 6 12
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Pointless comment
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17/12/2020 13:26:23 1 3
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British public fed by the british media useless!
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17/12/2020 13:15:46 91 8
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if the risk at Christmas is so great, then why not have on-line teaching for the first 2 weeks of term so to isolate the pupils at home.
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17/12/2020 13:23:15 88 9
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Should have happened with the last two weeks of term.
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17/12/2020 13:47:36 4 6
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Means parents and carers have to remain at home to care for the kids, impact flows across the economy as a result. No requirement for employers to pay their employees to stay at home for the 2 weeks, so loss of household income. No decision is impact free.
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17/12/2020 14:29:58 2 3
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Possibly because some schools still aren't actually bothering with teaching on line. We still haven't had a single live remote lesson.
You would be leaving thousands of children isolated home alone with no supervision and a few rubbish links on a homework system that's supposed to replace face to face education.
17/12/2020 18:44:06 0 3
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Are you aware of the impact online learning is having on a child's education? No, of course you're not! On-line education is not acceptable, and testing kids certainly isn't either!
17/12/2020 20:59:22 0 0
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Sadly a lot of pupils havent got computers or even access to a viable internet connection that can take online learning.
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17/12/2020 13:16:21 520 45
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Sensible decision, terrible timing. How on earth are schools supposed to prepare for this with one working day left?? Typical knee jerk reaction from this inept Government. There have been calls from within education to do this for months and they make the decision now.
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17/12/2020 13:20:35 209 19
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Completely agree... a sensible idea but ridiculous timing. I know things change and we need to be prepared for change, but a decision like this, at this time, is far too late in the day for schools and students to be fully prepared for whatever it is they will need to do at the start of next term ?????
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17/12/2020 13:24:44 19 99
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Well this is a reactive situation so you may need to alter course!
What’s wrong with that? If the government did nothing you’d be on here moaning they weren’t doing anything!
Just think how much worse it would have been under JC government
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17/12/2020 13:25:43 21 70
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Most people work until xmas eve!
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17/12/2020 13:29:04 50 5
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Totally agree. Only last week they allowed schools to finish today having told them they couldn't finish early. Some schools are finding this out at 1pm on the last day of the longest term.
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17/12/2020 13:35:03 10 17
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Poor decision that's been pressured by the minority.

Close hospitality, non-essential retail and offices before closing schools.

Children get a better education.

It's better for their mental wellbeing

Working parents can actually work

You don't get postcode lottery of some schools offering good online support with others not so good.

Kids in an environment to learn without home destractions.
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17/12/2020 13:38:55 12 18
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Why do you need lots of time to close schools! The experience of March has set up isolation education procedures so that the kids can be taught from home. Teachers are on-line and practiced at remote schooling.
The figures are what decreed the the change of tiers and those won't available until yesterday. Perhaps if our diverse society listened to the reasons we wouldn't have these spikes?
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17/12/2020 13:45:26 17 1
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by working through our christmas holiday, I'm guessing.
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ian
17/12/2020 13:52:51 12 18
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I work at a school and don't finish until Tuesday. Unions would complain what ever this government says
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17/12/2020 14:03:09 5 28
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The teachers have a nice long holiday to prepare for it. And well run schools have everything in place anyway because they know that a rapidly changing situation means they could close at any time.
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17/12/2020 14:08:01 5 15
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As an ex teacher I wonder why time is needed.To do what?
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fos
17/12/2020 14:15:25 4 14
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Predictable response.
Blame the government and make it quite clear your can’t do attitude must prevail.Any private company would see early next week and the period between Xmas and NY as well as prior to returning as plenty of time.You’re simply announcing a determination to do nothing but it’s not necessary we all know you won’t show any initiative or accept any responsibility whatsoever.
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17/12/2020 14:27:05 3 0
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Some schools (ours) have already finished
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kh
17/12/2020 13:09:40 17 5
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Adolescents see the world very black and white. Going to take them some persuading for the invasive procedure.
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17/12/2020 13:31:25 5 9
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In New York if you want to go to school you have to be tested. Don’t persuade order them and if they don’t agree prosecute their parents.
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17/12/2020 13:40:37 0 3
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Teenagers are perfectly capable of understanding the issues. In most cases they'll accept the procedure.

My 12yo managed fine. SEN allowing, I don't see the issue. They all know this isn't a game.
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17/12/2020 13:16:39 52 5
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Here in Scotland the schools stay open until the 22nd then come the 23rd families can mix for 5 days .. complete madness .
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17/12/2020 16:22:41 6 3
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I see devolution is working just fine then?
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17/12/2020 13:17:02 23 22
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Tory chaos.

All thanks to the uneducated Brexit types who voted them in.
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17/12/2020 13:18:54 9 5
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Risible comment.
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17/12/2020 13:23:07 3 1
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I have more sense in my little finger than such as you
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17/12/2020 13:23:08 4 1
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Let get another HYS on Brexit!
Yes let’s keep the stereotype thicko brexiteer going!
Grow up!!
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17/12/2020 13:23:38 0 1
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Regardless of your insult, they did so, like in the 'red wall' because the 'educated' as they keep telling us they are, refused to implement brexit ordered by the people's vote. I wonder who made the election go the way it did? So emphatically. No one voted based on covid policy! Just get our orders complied with by bad attitude 'educated' political class of all party remainers. Enjoy your result.
Ha ha another idiot allowed to comment on the BBC Removed
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17/12/2020 13:17:50 23 8
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hope this clown is brought to justice before too long for his string of crimes. Complete basket case
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CEP
17/12/2020 13:17:51 132 21
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As a H&S Officer in a school I would not expect staff to carry out tests that are currently being done by trained staff. Rethink needed urgently!!
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17/12/2020 13:23:19 32 87
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Errr, plenty do home test without training. Can’t be that difficult.....
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17/12/2020 13:28:00 6 57
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Testing is stupid. However it is easy, many done as self tests. If the school staff are incapable of operating something so easy perhaps they are not fit to have a job in the sector.
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17/12/2020 14:32:01 2 9
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Except schools are already testing suspected cases. (a child in my daughters class was tested in school because he coughed in front of a teacher)
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Abc
17/12/2020 14:43:19 10 2
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Thank you. Anyone who things such a process is 'easy' has no concept of the work and stresses for everyone in a school right now. School staff have been left to rot with no substantial help, and so how can we protect students and their families too? Totally demoralising...
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17/12/2020 16:33:15 1 4
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So says the "safety elf". It's not rocket science....................
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17/12/2020 18:05:19 2 5
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The public test themselves in the testing centres so I don’t see why the school nurse or first aid trained teachers/assistants/volunteers can’t carry out the tests. Students aged 16 or over can carry out the tests themselves.
17/12/2020 18:41:06 1 2
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The kids shouldn't be tested at all! Its about time you teachers did your independent research on PCR tests and all stood up and said no!
17/12/2020 19:09:02 1 3
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H&S, the organisation that lets nothing happen. Sorry, can't rescue you, haven't had ladder training! Get real, it's a swab test, not an injection. Easy to do, not much more than teeth cleaning.
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17/12/2020 13:13:50 13 2
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I am sure that students will be delighted to have this procedure organised by their head teacher.

In our county, we had school nurses who knew the children in their care. Surely the medical profession takes charge of testing here- obviously working with the head?
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17/12/2020 13:18:10 8 5
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It will be administered by volunteers. Where do you think the medical professionals will come from ? Should they stop doing Covid jabs ? Heads will get 30 minutes online instruction and then train an army of volunteers.
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17/12/2020 14:31:10 3 0
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Er,volunteers from WHERE? Who would want to?
17/12/2020 21:36:45 0 0
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Why don’t the GPS come out of hiding and earn their pay rises by doing the vaccinating
17/12/2020 23:35:38 1 0
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Volunteers from where? Who are they to be? Will they be DBS checked? Are we really happy with a bunch of random adults in schools performing invasive medical procedures on children?
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17/12/2020 13:18:13 323 10
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Threaten schools with legal action for closing before Xmas as schools are important.... then keep them closed after xmas as case numbers rising is important.
It's almost like this is being made up as they go along....
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17/12/2020 13:22:21 59 134
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They are, that's how you respond to a global pandemic
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cba
17/12/2020 13:47:44 14 6
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It is being made up thats why people are no longer taking any notice they can no longer be fooled
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17/12/2020 14:46:46 6 0
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I think it is. Coming out of lockdown and into tiers, North Somerset was put into tier 3 because of its proximity to Bristol, which had high rates. Today we have Herefordshire, bordering Gloucestershire (that has the highest rates in the West of England) and Wales (that has the worst rates in the UK), being downgraded to Tier 1. Consistency, what consistency? You couldn't make it up...
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17/12/2020 14:49:44 3 5
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It is being made up as they go along. It is a case of having to. This virus is unprecedented and so are the rules for dealing with it. Get real for goodness sake.This virus is doing it's own thing and the gov has to act quickly to combat it in any way it can. Day to day change is how it has to be dealt with.
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17/12/2020 15:47:24 5 0
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Everything they have done has been a mixture of late, u turns and complete mess. They have a habit of boxing themselves in and Education is a classic example. They have put schools as a total priority and politically simply cannot back down off that, no matter what the costs are. Clowns.
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17/12/2020 17:04:24 1 0
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If there is some more chaotic than "made up as you go along" then this is it.
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17/12/2020 13:18:33 142 16
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On the one hand the government says that Covid rates in Secondary schools are extremely high and are organising testing and on the other they say there is no problem and they will sue schools if they close early. Make up your mind , the government who have overseen the biggest death rate in Europe.
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17/12/2020 13:21:37 68 6
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This is in line with the national policy of do but don't. The Govt is clear about that.
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17/12/2020 13:21:40 1 5
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Do you fancy volunteering for the role of being in charge of schools then?
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17/12/2020 13:22:07 7 3
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Italy no longer in Europe now?
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17/12/2020 14:58:45 6 1
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This is untrue :
Britain, which long had the ignominy of having the second worst death rate in Europe, after Belgium, is now seventh on 963 deaths per million residents, behind Belgium (1,574), Italy (1,101), Slovenia (1,074), North Macedonia (1,053), Spain (1,039) and Montenegro (971) – with France (908) and the Czech Republic (936) not far behind.
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17/12/2020 13:13:04 14 22
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When does the NEU ever have anything positive to say and when does it ever put children first. NEVER . I am embarrassed to say I am a member of this shower
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Bob
17/12/2020 13:18:34 8 12
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Because they lean left. They want this measure then cry when it is given. Same tactic as Sadiq Khan. Cried out for tier 3 the day before he got it then cried about how damaging it will be the day after. Just people playing politics.
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17/12/2020 13:17:02 23 22
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Tory chaos.

All thanks to the uneducated Brexit types who voted them in.
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17/12/2020 13:18:54 9 5
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Risible comment.
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jki
17/12/2020 13:10:30 30 46
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Much better to just stop pretending this is te black death and get back to normal asap
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17/12/2020 13:19:02 7 6
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Develop some empathy
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17/12/2020 13:10:55 15 13
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I blame the reopening of schools for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th waves. There are kids everywhere with no masks, no social distancing and no manners!
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17/12/2020 13:24:17 17 2
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And I blame the parents for those behaviours!
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17/12/2020 13:29:35 4 1
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our school have been good with the rules. I am impressed how these children adapted and are wearing their masks. Our head put his foot down to ensure there are strict rules in place. Not all kids are bad mannered.
17/12/2020 21:52:39 0 0
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There are also lots of old people out in town, not social distancing and being even ruder
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01
17/12/2020 13:11:37 9 12
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Keep all schools and universities closed during 2021, nobody will miss a year off.
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17/12/2020 13:24:53 6 2
bbc
Not good for mental health. Seen this first hand.
17/12/2020 21:54:53 0 0
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They have already missed half of 2020. Stop punishing children. Vulnerable and elderly should stay at home
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17/12/2020 13:11:32 10 6
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Makes sense as cases are rising & are expected to rise sharply
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17/12/2020 13:19:40 14 1
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I'm not so sure they will. The people in my house (NHS worker, school teacher, college student and school pupil) have been mixing daily with dozens and dozens of different people from multiple households. Spending two weeks only mixing with a handful of known people whilst taking precautions will most likely be the safest period of time we have experienced since March!!
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17/12/2020 13:19:49 7 54
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Another excuse for teachers to have time off whilst I do their job for them and also doing my own.
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pgt
17/12/2020 13:23:15 28 2
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....yet still find time to post pointless comments.
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17/12/2020 13:23:24 15 2
bbc
Seriously?
Here's an idea. Take some responsibility for your own children.
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17/12/2020 13:23:27 14 3
bbc
Here we go again teacher bashing. You must have had a bad time at school!
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17/12/2020 13:23:31 10 2
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My daughter in a high risk area with loads of pupils and staff off sick with Covid is teaching a class in school at the same time as teaching another class online at home. You give that a try
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17/12/2020 13:25:55 9 3
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It is your job. Only parents have a legal duty to educate their child. Teachers could be laid off if you got on with it, thereby not being any job.
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17/12/2020 13:26:08 10 1
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How is running on line lessons to some years, and teaching those in school time off?
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mc
17/12/2020 13:26:08 0 6
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number of down votes proves teachers are not at work even now
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17/12/2020 13:41:26 7 1
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From your comment I'm guessing you'd struggle to educate a dog never mind a child!
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17/12/2020 13:19:57 38 15
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Schools should have finished a week ago, with each child given a rapid test on the last day.
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17/12/2020 13:22:45 14 10
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You obviously don't have a degree in logistics do you?
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17/12/2020 14:09:40 0 0
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Why?
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17/12/2020 13:08:06 199 13
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....all announced with 1 day to plan!!

Where to start???
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Bob
17/12/2020 13:20:07 7 26
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January starts in one day? Crickey, I missed Christmas, were the TV specials any good?
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17/12/2020 13:36:01 21 4
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Depends on your viewpoint about asking people to work during unpaid holidays....
The usual teacher bashing crowd have probably already started but to be honest it is a bit boring to read.
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17/12/2020 14:00:40 7 2
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Well it says they’re looking for volunteers so nip down to your local secondary school and offer to help out over Christmas and beyond.
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17/12/2020 14:05:04 18 4
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When was the last time you got given a project to do during your leave? Teachers aren't paid to work during their holidays, and reorganising a curriculum to teach it online when many have already planned their work for January when we have 1 working day left is unreasonable. Particularly when you consider that the government have threatened legal action for schools trying to work online this week!
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17/12/2020 13:16:21 520 45
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Sensible decision, terrible timing. How on earth are schools supposed to prepare for this with one working day left?? Typical knee jerk reaction from this inept Government. There have been calls from within education to do this for months and they make the decision now.
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17/12/2020 13:20:35 209 19
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Completely agree... a sensible idea but ridiculous timing. I know things change and we need to be prepared for change, but a decision like this, at this time, is far too late in the day for schools and students to be fully prepared for whatever it is they will need to do at the start of next term ?????
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Bob
17/12/2020 13:32:21 22 72
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Whenever people post comments about how much holiday teachers get an army of people immediately correct them saying that they don't get that much time off and actually they work during the school holidays.

Now you're trying to tell us they don't.

Can't have it both ways.
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17/12/2020 14:05:59 1 11
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If the curriculum is in place - which it should be under long term and short term planning - then this is not a problem. This pandemic is a fluid situation and we are just going to all pull together.
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17/12/2020 13:20:50 23 13
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With “light at the end of the tunnel” but quite a tunnel left, Schools should be shut now and online learning until everyone vulnerable vaccinated. This years exams should be scrapped.

Everything was going swimmingly well until schools/unis reopened in September.

This is the obvious “elephant in the room”.
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17/12/2020 13:24:33 19 5
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Do you have children of school age?

I have one who couldn't wait to get back, more for the social interraction. The other was happy to stay at home.

It's not all about learning.
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17/12/2020 13:18:33 142 16
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On the one hand the government says that Covid rates in Secondary schools are extremely high and are organising testing and on the other they say there is no problem and they will sue schools if they close early. Make up your mind , the government who have overseen the biggest death rate in Europe.
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17/12/2020 13:21:37 68 6
bbc
This is in line with the national policy of do but don't. The Govt is clear about that.
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17/12/2020 13:18:33 142 16
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On the one hand the government says that Covid rates in Secondary schools are extremely high and are organising testing and on the other they say there is no problem and they will sue schools if they close early. Make up your mind , the government who have overseen the biggest death rate in Europe.
45
17/12/2020 13:21:40 1 5
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Do you fancy volunteering for the role of being in charge of schools then?
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17/12/2020 15:02:49 2 1
bbc
I'll do it. It's not like you need any relevant experience or ability for the roll.
Poor performance also doesn't seem to be an issue either, as long as I keep telling Boris he's wonderful.

I think I could handle that.
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17/12/2020 13:21:48 9 16
bbc
Oh just let it go...

EVERYONE should stay at home. Nobody should be venturing outdoors, let alone sit in crowded classrooms until this COVID is eliminated.

I don't care if it costs the UK some money. All life is sacred. If COVID was killing children and teenagers, we'd be locking the elderly in their homes...wouldn't we?
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17/12/2020 13:24:14 1 3
bbc
Please tell me you're on a wind-up
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17/12/2020 13:29:07 0 2
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If Covid was killing kids there would be more staff and more space.
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17/12/2020 13:18:33 142 16
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On the one hand the government says that Covid rates in Secondary schools are extremely high and are organising testing and on the other they say there is no problem and they will sue schools if they close early. Make up your mind , the government who have overseen the biggest death rate in Europe.
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17/12/2020 13:22:07 7 3
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Italy no longer in Europe now?
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17/12/2020 13:43:49 2 5
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Second is brill then
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17/12/2020 13:18:13 323 10
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Threaten schools with legal action for closing before Xmas as schools are important.... then keep them closed after xmas as case numbers rising is important.
It's almost like this is being made up as they go along....
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17/12/2020 13:22:21 59 134
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They are, that's how you respond to a global pandemic
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17/12/2020 13:30:38 23 12
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Desperate Tory propaganda!
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17/12/2020 13:34:35 40 7
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No it isn't. You have specialists in their field who make strategic decisions based on evidence. School close their doors in a few hours time. They now have no idea when they will open again or who will walk through them.
Unprecedented times (like a global pandemic) need leaders to understand what is going on and act accordingly.
They expect us to act strategically, but fail to do it themselves.
253
17/12/2020 13:56:26 27 5
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9 months in and the government still just seems to be reactive, not proactive.
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17/12/2020 13:58:41 8 0
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To a degree but it does seem that when the situation arrives they panic. Surely a lot of this can be pre-planned given a set of likely scenarios and even displayed to the public what is likely to happen if....
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17/12/2020 14:15:38 7 21
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Ignore the ignorant lefties. They are just trolling for the sake of it. You are completely correct, the virus is a fast moving enemy, tricky to defeat, and we have to fight it on the fronts it appears on, not just make a long term plan and hope the virus agrees to stick to it!!!
673
17/12/2020 15:59:02 1 1
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Well, it is when the Tories are in charge.
17/12/2020 18:38:50 0 3
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Global pandemic. Clearly someone led by MSM instead of facts and statistics!
SF
18/12/2020 09:05:47 1 0
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Granted a global pandemic requires continuous adaptation and flexibility but surely within a coherent strategy that everyone understands.

Stop people mixing
Identify people who have it
Isolate people who may spread it
Support business
Resource NHS and care homes properly
Keep doing it longer than anyone is happy about
Accept you might have to put your hand in your pocket for the plebs
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17/12/2020 13:10:27 21 15
bbc
Why not just keep schools closed all January (should have finished a week early for Christmas) when cases are going to skyrocket. Then do away with the pointless week off in Feb and make up the time with reducing Easter holidays to a week, scrap the May holiday and finishing for summer a week later.
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17/12/2020 13:12:35 6 2
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You do know teachers have been working throughout this and often lost holidays due to isolation?
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17/12/2020 13:19:57 38 15
bbc
Schools should have finished a week ago, with each child given a rapid test on the last day.
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17/12/2020 13:22:45 14 10
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You obviously don't have a degree in logistics do you?
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17/12/2020 13:25:10 3 1
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It's not rocket science.
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17/12/2020 14:49:22 0 1
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This is rich coming from someone so intelligent that the best response you could summon up to an earlier comment was "Liar" (which the BBC deems to be not "abusive" for some reason?)
18/12/2020 08:10:48 0 0
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It would appear, neither do the government!
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17/12/2020 13:22:46 88 18
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Staggered return yet forcing schools to stay open the week before xmas.
The Government needs to be stopped.
There has to be consequences for the Conservative Party, they are out of control. I was, repeat was, a Conservative voter. Never again.
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17/12/2020 13:27:22 20 55
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And you think others would do things differently? Delusionary.
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17/12/2020 13:30:11 2 7
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Liar!
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Bob
17/12/2020 14:03:07 4 2
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You realise that even the shadow education secretary managed to bring herself to say that schools should remain open?
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17/12/2020 13:22:53 13 12
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Discrace - Teachers i know are in tears and fearing for their lives being forced by government to go into schools risking their lives every day. It's a disgrace.

Get these super-spreader kids out of school and getting their education ONLINE at home until the virus is in decline. it won't hurt them whatsoever to stay home - it's not like there will be any jobs for school leavers for YEARS as is!
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17/12/2020 13:29:39 5 6
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Get a grip! Should we also pander to supermarket workers who mix with hundreds of different people each day and close them so they can be safe...……….no I didn't think so!
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17/12/2020 13:30:48 5 1
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I totally agree with you my daughter's a teacher with a young family. I know she dreads going to school but does because its her job and she cares about her pupils.
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Lin
17/12/2020 13:33:01 0 5
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What a load of tosh- teachers fearing for their lives - What would happen if the shop workers started saying the same- should we close all the shops and let everyone starve
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17/12/2020 13:17:02 23 22
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Tory chaos.

All thanks to the uneducated Brexit types who voted them in.
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17/12/2020 13:23:07 3 1
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I have more sense in my little finger than such as you
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17/12/2020 13:17:02 23 22
bbc
Tory chaos.

All thanks to the uneducated Brexit types who voted them in.
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17/12/2020 13:23:08 4 1
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Let get another HYS on Brexit!
Yes let’s keep the stereotype thicko brexiteer going!
Grow up!!
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17/12/2020 13:23:11 8 1
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Did Gavin Williamson write the article and the Journo's just copy/pasted and put her name to it?

It makes no sense.
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17/12/2020 13:19:49 7 54
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Another excuse for teachers to have time off whilst I do their job for them and also doing my own.
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pgt
17/12/2020 13:23:15 28 2
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....yet still find time to post pointless comments.
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17/12/2020 13:26:38 2 4
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Its called a lunch break.
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17/12/2020 13:15:46 91 8
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if the risk at Christmas is so great, then why not have on-line teaching for the first 2 weeks of term so to isolate the pupils at home.
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17/12/2020 13:23:15 88 9
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Should have happened with the last two weeks of term.
17/12/2020 18:44:31 0 1
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Don't be ridiculous!
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17/12/2020 13:08:38 185 13
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Williamson has lost the plot. At least hancock and Johnson can hide behind unprecedented. Starts the week by threatening schools staggering their times and working online, to end the week by passing off their idea as his own..and only months after “school kids can’t spread it” ideology
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17/12/2020 13:23:17 57 22
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Sturgeon can’t even admit that schools are a problem at all. When Liverpool did mass testing 25% of positive tests had no symptoms. It led to more self isolation rather than less.
When all those teachers stay at home schools will have to close and not before time.
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17/12/2020 16:04:53 0 12
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Exactly, I won't have test. If you don't have test you can't be positive and can't be made to stay at home.
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17/12/2020 16:50:31 4 1
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Sturgeon’s pretend government refuses to disclose numbers of pupils & staff impacted by Covid in schools North of the Border for privacy reasons. One school in Saltcoats, North Ayrshire was forced to move to online learning last week as situation is out of control. Actually, 200 in self isolation but the government don’t want people to know that.
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CEP
17/12/2020 13:17:51 132 21
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As a H&S Officer in a school I would not expect staff to carry out tests that are currently being done by trained staff. Rethink needed urgently!!
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17/12/2020 13:23:19 32 87
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Errr, plenty do home test without training. Can’t be that difficult.....
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17/12/2020 13:30:42 54 5
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Yes, but that's not on someone else or someone else's child, is it???
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Me
17/12/2020 13:41:58 44 4
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Plenty do home testing to themselves.........that is a very different situation from carrying out the tests on others. Wouldn't be long, methinks, before a child/parent accused a teacher of 'harm'.
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17/12/2020 14:34:55 3 31
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It is if you are a member of a militant teachers union. "that is not in the job description. All out". Real professionals accept that we have to adapt all the time.
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17/12/2020 15:24:51 8 1
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Being given responsibility for someone else’s health is a whole different thing. Issues of consent and competence for starters, and in the current circumstance let’s not forget infection control. Teachers are not medically trained - half baked videos at the start of term when they are teaching online and in person on top of this new plan is not safe.
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17/12/2020 15:31:37 9 0
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Doing it to someone else needs training - Serco operated sites get you to do it yourself whereas council operated lateral flow sites have trained, careful staff. Experienced both in last 4 weeks - negative each time decidedly not fun experience, takes at least 5 mins. Teachers can't be expected to arrange this & then carry it out on pupils. Getting it right yourself is fiddly.
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17/12/2020 15:44:54 8 0
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Staff are not supposed to have physical contact with children. The swabbing is uncomfortable. It is very easy for a child or parent with a grudge to lodge a complaint about inappropriate behaviour. Even if the children conduct the swabbing themselves, staff need still need to be present to supervise & to confirm the outcome after 20 minutes. How would this fit into the school day?
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17/12/2020 16:57:36 7 0
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Errr, not really a teachers job to perform health checks on multiple school children to see if they are infected with a deadly contagious disease. This will also increase the close contact risk for teachers as well. I’m not a teacher but I certainly not expect anyone except healthcare professionals to carry out this task within a school environment.
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17/12/2020 17:00:47 5 0
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yes, home testing, yourself, not testing hundreds of children we are supposed to keep two meters from...
17/12/2020 19:37:30 3 0
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At home you test yourself, so you are only exposed to yourself. I think the proposal is teachers do multiple tests of pupils
SK
17/12/2020 21:33:20 0 0
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Actually one of the limitations of the test is real-life users. To do the test properly you have to really get in there with the swabs. Not many teenagers are going to do that daily, when the alternative is staying at home.
17/12/2020 21:45:34 2 1
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Testing yourself and testing someone else's child? Not comparable.
17/12/2020 23:25:55 4 0
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Are teachers meant to do these tests whilst simultainiously teaching a lesson? Who exactly is meant to suddenly be free to be a part-time nurse in schools? Where are they meant to come up with a hygenic empty space to run a clinic? Should they just invite random volunteers in without DBS safety checks to ensure children aren't at risk?
17/12/2020 23:36:31 0 0
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This is on children. They can't do it themselves.
SF
18/12/2020 09:08:07 1 0
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Home testing on those you live with. Not home testing on 1000 random punters without training on PPE, safely taking it on and off and disposal etc.
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17/12/2020 13:19:49 7 54
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Another excuse for teachers to have time off whilst I do their job for them and also doing my own.
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17/12/2020 13:23:24 15 2
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Seriously?
Here's an idea. Take some responsibility for your own children.
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17/12/2020 13:19:49 7 54
bbc
Another excuse for teachers to have time off whilst I do their job for them and also doing my own.
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17/12/2020 13:23:27 14 3
bbc
Here we go again teacher bashing. You must have had a bad time at school!
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17/12/2020 13:19:49 7 54
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Another excuse for teachers to have time off whilst I do their job for them and also doing my own.
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17/12/2020 13:23:31 10 2
bbc
My daughter in a high risk area with loads of pupils and staff off sick with Covid is teaching a class in school at the same time as teaching another class online at home. You give that a try
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17/12/2020 13:23:31 1 14
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And is there any evidence or even logic there will be any benefit?

Surely the whole year (or half year bubbles are to blame)

Teachers are not prepared to enforce discipline of any kind and the lack of C19 discipline is merely symptomatic of a wider ambivalence in the profession

What they even teach has little effect (not because they are bad) but because both they and kids know it's pointless
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17/12/2020 13:27:36 6 1
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No amount of discipline creates distance or PPE or ventilation or extra cleaners. If all the pupils are in school it’s not safe.
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17/12/2020 13:29:25 0 1
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What does this comment even mean? Some very sweeping statements which lack any understanding of what it is like to be in a school at the moment.
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17/12/2020 13:23:34 102 8
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Announcing this (again) at the very last minute gives very little time for planning. Some schools have already finished, others imminently. Union 'noise' aside, there is a valid point here. Logistics in schools is not easy, particularly with an ever changing available workforce due to self-isolations. There's over 5000 students in our 6 schools and less than a day to sort it out!? Come on.
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Bob
17/12/2020 13:54:31 26 164
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So if someone says teachers get over 3 months off work we're told they don't because they work during that time.

But if they're going to have to do work during that period we're told there's only one day of term time left and so it is suddenly impossible.

I understand.
642
17/12/2020 15:44:50 2 0
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If local authorities were running schools instead of MATs then there might be more of a chance of having a strategic local plan. Maybe the funds paid to MAT CEOs could be reallocated?
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17/12/2020 13:17:02 23 22
bbc
Tory chaos.

All thanks to the uneducated Brexit types who voted them in.
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17/12/2020 13:23:38 0 1
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Regardless of your insult, they did so, like in the 'red wall' because the 'educated' as they keep telling us they are, refused to implement brexit ordered by the people's vote. I wonder who made the election go the way it did? So emphatically. No one voted based on covid policy! Just get our orders complied with by bad attitude 'educated' political class of all party remainers. Enjoy your result.
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17/12/2020 13:21:48 9 16
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Oh just let it go...

EVERYONE should stay at home. Nobody should be venturing outdoors, let alone sit in crowded classrooms until this COVID is eliminated.

I don't care if it costs the UK some money. All life is sacred. If COVID was killing children and teenagers, we'd be locking the elderly in their homes...wouldn't we?
66
17/12/2020 13:24:14 1 3
bbc
Please tell me you're on a wind-up
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17/12/2020 13:26:26 0 1
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Right then - what's your cunning alternative?
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17/12/2020 13:31:18 0 2
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I thick he's Matt Hancockup's brother.
Yell you what Lockdown4ever, you lock yourself away, for the rest of your life.
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17/12/2020 13:24:17 95 11
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Typical, as soon as schools in the south start to get effected by children being sent home the government brings in mass testing. Many children in the north have lost weeks of schooling already. Just show where their priorities are.
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17/12/2020 13:30:04 15 77
bbc
Yes, it's all a plot to bring the North down......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Bob
17/12/2020 14:02:03 1 3
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This is about managing the fall out from the Christmas free for all. Not what is happening now. If it was they'd have done it sooner.
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17/12/2020 14:08:22 6 0
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Exactly what I thought. My daughter has missed a month of school since September, and she will be doing her GCSE'S next year.
17/12/2020 18:46:12 0 0
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We live in the south and my son has been taught online every other week since September. Not everyone in the south has had a good experience.
17/12/2020 18:42:50 0 2
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Shut up making it a north/south divide issue. The issue here, which everyone fails to research, is the tests are only 7% accurate. Leave our kids alone!
17/12/2020 18:54:45 0 0
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So much for "levelling up!"
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01
17/12/2020 13:10:55 15 13
bbc
I blame the reopening of schools for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th waves. There are kids everywhere with no masks, no social distancing and no manners!
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17/12/2020 13:24:17 17 2
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And I blame the parents for those behaviours!
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17/12/2020 13:24:27 8 11
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Does the NEU ever have anything positive to say? If the government make an announcement they say it's "panic"/"incompetence"/"too little too late". If the government don't say/do anything they're lambasted for not saying or doing anything. Only good news is that most teachers see through their union leadership's rhetoric, roll their eyes kowingly and get on with doing right by the children.
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17/12/2020 13:30:32 4 5
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The problem is that government don't do the right thing at the right time and then the government panics and make bad decisions. People are right to criticise this.
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17/12/2020 13:12:19 8 2
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That's what you hope, is it? How odd.
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17/12/2020 13:16:15 1 2
bbc
It's called sarcasm!
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17/12/2020 13:20:50 23 13
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With “light at the end of the tunnel” but quite a tunnel left, Schools should be shut now and online learning until everyone vulnerable vaccinated. This years exams should be scrapped.

Everything was going swimmingly well until schools/unis reopened in September.

This is the obvious “elephant in the room”.
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17/12/2020 13:24:33 19 5
bbc
Do you have children of school age?

I have one who couldn't wait to get back, more for the social interraction. The other was happy to stay at home.

It's not all about learning.
254
17/12/2020 13:56:59 3 0
bbc
But in a Covid it’s all about infection control. Social interaction or a cleaners life ?
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17/12/2020 13:16:21 520 45
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Sensible decision, terrible timing. How on earth are schools supposed to prepare for this with one working day left?? Typical knee jerk reaction from this inept Government. There have been calls from within education to do this for months and they make the decision now.
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17/12/2020 13:24:44 19 99
bbc
Well this is a reactive situation so you may need to alter course!
What’s wrong with that? If the government did nothing you’d be on here moaning they weren’t doing anything!
Just think how much worse it would have been under JC government
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17/12/2020 13:45:22 39 7
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I can't imagine a government more inept than this one. I'm not even a teacher and I could see the way this was going to go.
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17/12/2020 13:54:11 6 3
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Pathetic comment
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17/12/2020 13:56:19 14 9
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I'd have rather had JC than this weak pathetic idiot running the country.
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17/12/2020 13:58:58 15 2
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JC government argument is hypothetical and irrelevant to your argument. The point is, the government has had a number of good ideas and if they had been implemented correctly using professionals who know what they're doing they would have worked. Do you really think giving schools less than a day's notice is acceptable? It won't work and teachers will get the blame (again).
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01
17/12/2020 13:11:37 9 12
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Keep all schools and universities closed during 2021, nobody will miss a year off.
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17/12/2020 13:24:53 6 2
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Not good for mental health. Seen this first hand.
All this for Covid 19 which less than 2500 people in the UK have died OF Shocking manipulation and propaganda Removed
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17/12/2020 13:26:50 0 1
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lie
You’re a moron Removed
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17/12/2020 13:28:31 4 1
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I think you will find it is over 65000 deaths with many more left with long term illness
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17/12/2020 13:32:18 0 2
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Crank
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17/12/2020 13:45:28 2 1
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Oh stop posting blatant lies in an attempt to get yourself some attention. It's sad!
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17/12/2020 13:17:02 23 22
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Tory chaos.

All thanks to the uneducated Brexit types who voted them in.
Ha ha another idiot allowed to comment on the BBC Removed
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17/12/2020 13:25:07 110 13
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Who is delivering the online learning while teaching staff are being retrained to be health workers?
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17/12/2020 13:28:39 54 10
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Exactly. This is mindblowing ineptness. We all know that months down the line, this scheme will have failed spectacularly and we'll still be in lockdown. Get this shower of cretins out of my face now!
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17/12/2020 13:30:16 3 23
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Lol whole ten mins training. Doing on line learning, recorded lesson. Feet up rest of the week.
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17/12/2020 13:38:46 1 11
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The teachers will be delivering the online education of course !!!

Head Teachers & "School leader" don't actually teach the kids and a 30 minute training video for actual teachers isn't going to derail their teaching ability...
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17/12/2020 15:29:21 0 3
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Doesn't really matter as most online learning is a bloody awful sick joke.
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17/12/2020 17:08:25 0 0
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oh, it won’t be teachers, it will be the support staff, let’s see, 2000 students, how long is that going to take..
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17/12/2020 13:25:08 97 32
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Too little too late...

Schools & Universities have been some of the most prolific spreaders of the virus and should have ALL gone online a long time ago...

Fed up with governments saying schools must remain open at any cost...

An education can be caught up on but lives lost can't...

All it boils down to at the end of the day though is, governments and many parents see schools as child minders.
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17/12/2020 13:39:04 14 35
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Or you shield the vulnerable from those children and the teachers?

Then education and children's mental wellbeing can be helped. Otherwise how would you suggest they catch up on education (with mental wellbeing impossible to 'catch up on')?

Teachers doing longer hours, weekends or losing holiday??? Good luck with that one..
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17/12/2020 13:44:28 4 9
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For GCSE level subjects most parents don't have the skills to teach to the level needed, and beyond expensive private schools and a small volume of state schools the on line learning was next to useless. Local school is 'outstanding' but my son learnt next to nothing in the LD it was just revision of previous topics. Education is more important as is their mental health - stop presuming!!
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17/12/2020 13:49:49 6 10
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And who cares for the children while they’re being taught at home? What about the downstream impact to the economy when parents and carers have to stay home to look after their school age children? Can’t just leave a 6 and 8 year old home alone.
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Ajo
17/12/2020 15:07:54 4 6
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Absolutely not! Schools and universities must stay open!
Young people are not covid susseptible, the average age of covid death is 83 - we cannot sacrifice education of our children and livelihoods of the economically active to potentially prolong lives mostly already lived.

All lives matter but young lives matter more!
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17/12/2020 15:32:33 4 4
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Your view is very short-termist.

Fast forward 20 years and the 80+ year olds are dead anyway.

The irreparable damage to the long term prosperity of our society caused by the next generation of doctors, teachers, politicians, scientists etc having their education disrupted during their formative years is far more damaging.

The govt have made a mess of a lot but keeping schools open must happen.
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17/12/2020 15:58:16 2 2
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Agreed!
17/12/2020 18:46:17 1 1
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Are you for real?? Are you even aware of the impact on-line learning is having on a pupil's education? 'Lives lost can't' You are hilarious!
17/12/2020 21:06:01 1 1
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Schools and Universities must stay open to educate the next generation who will be paying for this mess. If you are vulnerable or elderly, shield, if not, carry on.
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17/12/2020 13:22:45 14 10
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You obviously don't have a degree in logistics do you?
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17/12/2020 13:25:10 3 1
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It's not rocket science.
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17/12/2020 13:34:42 0 7
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You're obviously not an intelligent person either!
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17/12/2020 13:25:11 160 7
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So why did dipstick Williamson make such a fuss the other day about them going online?
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17/12/2020 13:31:37 92 4
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He used the wrong algorithm.....
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17/12/2020 13:49:59 14 0
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cos he's, as you say, a dipstick, who should have resigned after the exam fiasco.
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Bob
17/12/2020 14:45:50 1 9
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By the same token why are teachers now making a fuss about it. Straight after getting plunged into tier 3 some schools wanted to switch to online, they got council blessing but ultimately kiboshed. Yet now schools are saying there's not enough time to go online?

Just a big game of politics with children stuck in the middle.
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17/12/2020 15:49:50 2 0
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Because the decision had slipped past him and it's all about power and control!
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17/12/2020 16:02:42 2 0
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That is a good question. For spite is the first answer that comes to mind. Hope I'm wrong.
17/12/2020 18:37:54 0 0
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You had it at dipstick....though I suspect that the actual word you had in mind might get the comment deleted!
18/12/2020 00:01:26 1 0
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He cannot afford to backtrack on exams going ahead. If he forces schools to remain open, he can claim it is a level playing field and exams will go ahead as all students had the opportunity to go into school for lessons.
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17/12/2020 13:13:04 14 22
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When does the NEU ever have anything positive to say and when does it ever put children first. NEVER . I am embarrassed to say I am a member of this shower
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17/12/2020 13:25:28 2 1
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What’s your solution ? How about social distancing, ventilation, PPE and extra cleaning ? Or are you really a Covid denier ?
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17/12/2020 13:15:27 34 14
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Government useless, matt Hancock useless
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17/12/2020 13:25:31 6 12
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Pointless comment
18/12/2020 08:10:22 0 0
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Sort of, but true.
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17/12/2020 13:16:21 520 45
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Sensible decision, terrible timing. How on earth are schools supposed to prepare for this with one working day left?? Typical knee jerk reaction from this inept Government. There have been calls from within education to do this for months and they make the decision now.
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17/12/2020 13:25:43 21 70
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Most people work until xmas eve!
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17/12/2020 13:36:09 38 9
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Alternatively, most people are expected to work until Xmas eve, but a significant number take holidays to not work for X days. I imagine your comment is a dig at teachers and their holidays aligning to those of the education establishment they work at.
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17/12/2020 14:25:16 1 0
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Except MPs of course.
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17/12/2020 13:19:49 7 54
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Another excuse for teachers to have time off whilst I do their job for them and also doing my own.
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17/12/2020 13:25:55 9 3
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It is your job. Only parents have a legal duty to educate their child. Teachers could be laid off if you got on with it, thereby not being any job.
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17/12/2020 13:26:05 12 2
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I would love to know who is making these decisions. I'm not sure this could be managed any more badly if DfE deliberately set out to do things as badly as possible.
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17/12/2020 13:51:57 5 0
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Maybe you're onto something there. If they aimed to fail, they'd be so bad at it they probably succeed :S.
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17/12/2020 13:19:49 7 54
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Another excuse for teachers to have time off whilst I do their job for them and also doing my own.
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17/12/2020 13:26:08 10 1
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How is running on line lessons to some years, and teaching those in school time off?
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17/12/2020 13:15:27 34 14
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Government useless, matt Hancock useless
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17/12/2020 13:26:23 1 3
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British public fed by the british media useless!
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17/12/2020 13:24:14 1 3
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Please tell me you're on a wind-up
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17/12/2020 13:26:26 0 1
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Right then - what's your cunning alternative?
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pgt
17/12/2020 13:23:15 28 2
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....yet still find time to post pointless comments.
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17/12/2020 13:26:38 2 4
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Its called a lunch break.
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Me
17/12/2020 13:36:58 12 1
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Lucky you! I have 2 teachers in the family - neither of whom ever have a lunch break.
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17/12/2020 13:43:27 2 1
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Oh of course, We all have a lunch break at work and instantly go to the BBC website to post pointless comments. Not watching daytime TV for 1 hour is not a lunchbreak.
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17/12/2020 13:13:04 14 22
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When does the NEU ever have anything positive to say and when does it ever put children first. NEVER . I am embarrassed to say I am a member of this shower
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Tom
17/12/2020 13:26:48 4 1
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Because the main role of the NEU is to look after the interests of their members who are staff. Teachers have been under enormous pressure since the first lockdown being expected to change how they deliver their job at zero notice. They need greater recognition and more support from government to be able to continue delivering high standards of education even in the most challenging circumstances
All this for Covid 19 which less than 2500 people in the UK have died OF Shocking manipulation and propaganda Removed
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17/12/2020 13:26:50 0 1
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lie
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17/12/2020 13:26:58 14 8
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This Government need a kick up the ass now. This is ridiculous. One minute Williamson is threatening a Greenwich school with legal action if they don't stay open and the next he's happy to see kids stay at home instead of going to school! The catalogue of incompetence is breathtaking. My kid goes back Williamson as normal or you will answer to me. I urge other parents not to take this lying down.
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17/12/2020 13:34:42 6 3
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Wow.
Mind you, I bet "your kid" can't wait to go back!
Whoever downvoted me needs to be taught a lesson or two. Removed
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17/12/2020 13:33:07 3 1
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Get a grip!!
17/12/2020 19:23:10 0 0
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The Queen should sack her inept government.
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17/12/2020 13:27:13 4 3
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Last July they could have organised a part time situation with students having half a day in school spaced out and the other half a day online or set tasks thus schools only being half full, then swap, but clearly too complicated for our Government.
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17/12/2020 14:02:03 2 0
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Scotland had a very detailed plan for exactly that . It was called blended learning and would have allowed some social interaction and teachers to keep an eye on vulnerable children.
A tiny group of Covid deniers persuaded the moronic Sturgeon to drop it and the sky high rates of Covid and Covid deaths prove how wrong she was.
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17/12/2020 13:22:46 88 18
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Staggered return yet forcing schools to stay open the week before xmas.
The Government needs to be stopped.
There has to be consequences for the Conservative Party, they are out of control. I was, repeat was, a Conservative voter. Never again.
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17/12/2020 13:27:22 20 55
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And you think others would do things differently? Delusionary.
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17/12/2020 13:27:35 5 11
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I’ve been organising twice weekly testing for my service for the last 9 months. It’s really not that complicated. Everything’s difficult and last minute at the moment so let’s just stop moaning and do what we can...
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17/12/2020 14:15:15 2 0
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How many thousands a week using volunteers and reluctant teenager ?
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17/12/2020 13:23:31 1 14
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And is there any evidence or even logic there will be any benefit?

Surely the whole year (or half year bubbles are to blame)

Teachers are not prepared to enforce discipline of any kind and the lack of C19 discipline is merely symptomatic of a wider ambivalence in the profession

What they even teach has little effect (not because they are bad) but because both they and kids know it's pointless
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17/12/2020 13:27:36 6 1
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No amount of discipline creates distance or PPE or ventilation or extra cleaners. If all the pupils are in school it’s not safe.
All this for Covid 19 which less than 2500 people in the UK have died OF Shocking manipulation and propaganda Removed
You’re a moron Removed
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17/12/2020 13:17:51 132 21
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As a H&S Officer in a school I would not expect staff to carry out tests that are currently being done by trained staff. Rethink needed urgently!!
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17/12/2020 13:28:00 6 57
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Testing is stupid. However it is easy, many done as self tests. If the school staff are incapable of operating something so easy perhaps they are not fit to have a job in the sector.
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17/12/2020 13:44:18 17 2
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Poorly thought out response, this is further demand on their time and isn’t something being applied across the entire population, be that manufacturing or service industry. Only the health service carry out regular testing of their resources. Can see this being an area of litigious cases from some parents who demand health service staff only, test their child/ren.
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17/12/2020 13:51:27 28 3
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Maybe the schools should just spend all their time testing pupils and forget about teaching ?
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17/12/2020 14:07:39 15 2
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Yeah why not, it's not like school staff have anything to be doing anyway...
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17/12/2020 14:22:08 25 3
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Speaking out of your backside, self tests are that, carried out on ones self, teachers/school staff cant even give paracetamol to students or medicene, but now they are expected to to ram swabs in their mouths and up their noses?
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17/12/2020 13:17:27 7 2
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LEA advised the we could close Fri. if we used an INSET so we have and will. So no time to train...who's liable for getting it wrong? But which schools? Probably those south of Watford Gap. Year 7's doing it themselves, not convinced.
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GEH
17/12/2020 13:51:10 2 2
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Inset days are for staff training!
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17/12/2020 13:28:29 15 1
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The Government's own stats show the largest rate of infection was amongst secondary school and University students. Of course, they pass the infection on to others, because that's the way viruses work.
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17/12/2020 14:23:31 3 1
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But the virus has to be present in the local area for school pupils and university students to become infected in the first place.
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17/12/2020 13:12:10 260 11
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I've just helped supervise our students leaving the school and was told to look at this story. Like many that have I have read since March this begs the question: does anyone in government ask those that work in schools? It appears not but I wonder who is advising them to make such decisions.
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17/12/2020 13:28:30 195 15
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Seems quite clear those make the decisions have no understanding of schools. Most of those in government making the decisions went to private school and those with children send them to private school also
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17/12/2020 13:35:14 6 5
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Um no. we are a private school. We are kept in the dark just as much.
We shut a week early but have holiday club option and for critical worker children.
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17/12/2020 15:04:12 1 0
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Dulwich College has been closed since Monday
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17/12/2020 15:36:57 3 0
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Jecbiln
Agree with your first sentence thesis but the politics of envy in your second sentence reveals yourself as a class warrior to no good effect. I doubt if pupils of any school truly appreciate the complexities of managing them, public or private. But to be fair to you, neither clearly does the government.
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17/12/2020 15:57:22 1 0
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Why is it relevant to mention private schools in this response??