Brexit: Trade talks in 'a serious situation' says Boris Johnson
17/12/2020 | news | politics | 9,148
The PM and the EU Commission head speak again by phone, and acknowledge differences remain.
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17/12/2020 12:48:04 177 130
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Boris is just looking to pass the blame

Brexit is a disaster - 2021 will be goodnight UK
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17/12/2020 12:54:20 160 216
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Talking rubbish.
Try not to be so bitter, you lost the arguement - you hold a minority view and are incapable of looking forward.
The rest of us will make it work in spite of the backwards looking remoaners trying to undermine your own country in favour of the protectionist, out of control beurocracy that is the EU.
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17/12/2020 12:53:34 15 4
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He's a blamethrower :)
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17/12/2020 13:02:33 17 11
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Yes, and I feel sorry for all the remains in England, but you will be welcomed in the independent Scotland
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17/12/2020 13:09:17 23 31
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after 4 years isn't it time you Remainers changed your record from 'how can I help ensure it fails so I can say I told you so' to 'what can I do to help make Brexit a resounding success'?
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17/12/2020 13:09:39 14 6
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Can't wait for 2022 to see what you'll be saying given it's obviously not 'goodnight UK'. Duh.
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17/12/2020 14:02:17 1 6
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Just believing in something isn't going to make it happen - look at all the other things you believed in, winning the referendum, winning the GE, winning the EU elections, winning the next GE, a second referendum, Economic Armageddon if we voted leave, Nissan Barcelona staying open and Sunderland closing, & the City moving to the EU not being told 'Carry on trading'
17/12/2020 15:03:39 5 2
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Of course BREXIT will be a disaster if we don't take a positive attitude and work hard to make BREXIT work; that applies to everything. What's done is done. I voted remain but accept that and last time i looked i lived in a democracy and will make the most of this situation and help Britain succeed. Change is never easier but we all need to pull together and if we do BREXIT will work.
17/12/2020 15:41:40 0 1
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A slow puncture of years duration me thinks.
17/12/2020 16:17:00 1 1
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Disagree, Skinnydog.

Unless you have a crystal ball, your statement that 2021 "will be goodnight UK" holds no water. I think you grossly underestimate our economy, capability and people.
17/12/2020 20:34:53 0 0
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oh dear lets hope your never needed to defend the uk
EPK
17/12/2020 22:25:18 0 0
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Absolutely. 17th poll in a row today showing Scotland has had enough. 58% in favour of independence. And I suspect it will come sooner than you think.
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:50:10 29 24
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You are deluded
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17/12/2020 12:50:39 9 8
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You're the second comment and must have typed this whilst the first was typing theirs, and you claim remainers are spitting blood.

Yet another brexit lie.....
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17/12/2020 12:51:57 10 10
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Griping because it's going to almost halve our national prosperity and probably end up doing more damage to our international standing. Worst of all worlds.
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17/12/2020 12:52:48 3 6
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I am a remainer who voted for Boris to get Brexit done - and I think he will. But the hard Brexiteers will not be happy with the outcome!
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17/12/2020 12:52:49 4 6
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What, a soft Brexit?! You've been had!!
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17/12/2020 12:52:56 8 6
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Farage spitting blood that Bojo has given in to the EUs demands
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17/12/2020 12:53:41 9 5
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The day Johnson deliver anything at all maybe we can discuss it.
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17/12/2020 12:53:44 8 8
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Actually, it's more likely that Johnson's failing to deliver what we said was impossible, as he's finding out.

(Don't take it too hard, the PM's often said things it turns out he didn't mean. There's an empty ditch somewhere.)
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17/12/2020 12:55:47 7 7
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The devil is in the detail, and Boris does not do detail so we might get a deal but it won’ t be as good as we have and might turn out to be a Christmas turd when it is examined in more scrutiny.??
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17/12/2020 12:48:45 1590 615
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So what are the benefits of Brexit?

How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
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17/12/2020 12:51:18 1783 638
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There are none, and you won't be.
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17/12/2020 12:52:42 177 490
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You will have your freedom and sovereignty restored. Isn't that enough?
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GEH
17/12/2020 13:01:51 88 203
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It was never about economics
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17/12/2020 13:03:53 298 44
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You can ask this question again and again but not get a sensible answer......because there isn’t one.
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17/12/2020 13:06:15 209 362
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From the 1st you have direct control of those who rule you. If you don't like them you can get rid of them by voting against them, ( if the majority agree with you).
If industries need support, we can give it to them.
If people want to move here they need a job first, or a skill we need.
We can buy produce from Africa
without outside tariffs being imposed - good for us and poorer nations.
Remainers are weird, why outsource lawmaking to a foreign entity?
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17/12/2020 13:06:44 45 95
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Ask the people who decided to vote leave, they seem to know if you dont
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17/12/2020 13:07:40 44 153
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Rome wasnt built in a day love.
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17/12/2020 13:08:28 110 266
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after 4 years isn't it time you Remainers changed your record from 'how can I help ensure it fails so I can say I told you so' to 'what can I do to help make Brexit a resounding success'?
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17/12/2020 13:09:01 87 185
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We have a vaccination for Covid-19 which the EU still have not approved........
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The benefits will be that we can trade anywhere in the world on our terms, we don”t have to abide by EU regulations, we don’t have to answer to the ECJ, the potential benefits are enormous, our country will prosper and so will our citizens. Have some faith in our country and our businesses, I own a small business and know I will benefit.
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17/12/2020 13:11:23 96 229
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150,000 uk citizens have had their first covid19 vaccination, only possible because we have left the eu.
The transport of live animals for slaughter is going to be banned, it is still allowed in the eu.
58 trade deals, £198 billion of trade, signed sealed and delivered.
Anna Soubry, Dominic Grieve, Jon Bercow, Jo Swinson, Chukka Umunna voted out.
And that daft bloke with the megaphone has shut up.
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17/12/2020 13:12:04 49 157
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Likely not much on day 1, but gradually we will have £billions extra to spend here in the UK rather than paying for schools and roads in Portugal or Greece. We can also control (at least to a greater extent) immigration, which gradually will mean lower demand on our public services and for housing, and we can do trade deals with other countries without being tied by EU rules. The future is bright.
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17/12/2020 13:13:36 39 120
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From 1 Jan people will stop writing meaningless statements like "What are the benefits of Brexit" as if there is still a choice as to whether Brexit will happen. That ship sadly sailed a long time ago - June 2016 - perhaps it is about time that we all moved on.
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17/12/2020 13:15:57 11 76
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It depends on where you live if you live in London you might notice a difference and find you are worse off as for the rest of the country It can only get better.
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17/12/2020 13:16:25 15 74
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Plus if its no deal which I would prefer, we will not have to pay the EU 39 Billion! I would rather our money was helping our country
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17/12/2020 13:16:49 19 82
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No following ridiculous ECJ.
No funding bail outs for Med countries.
No free movement - we control who comes in.
I could go on.........
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17/12/2020 13:20:53 54 5
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You will have a blue passport made by the french.
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17/12/2020 13:21:35 12 41
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Well, it will be better for the rest of us if you finally stop whinging.
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17/12/2020 13:21:41 13 14
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There is only one, We can now stop live animals being transported to another country for Slaughter.
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17/12/2020 12:48:51 360 114
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Ahhh last stumbling blocks. Was that not where we were a month ago? Mind you easiest deal ever so should all be done before Christmas.
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17/12/2020 12:52:45 276 501
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Oh no remainers! A deal is on the way. That wasn’t meant to happen now was it?

And cue:

‘It’s not as good as the deal we used to have’
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17/12/2020 12:53:23 54 9
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No good would come of a No Deal Brexit.

All Johnson has is bluster.
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17/12/2020 12:55:28 28 115
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Mind you, we’d have got a deal months ago had the remainers not spent 4 1/2 years trying to do a Trump by overturning a democratic decision.
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17/12/2020 12:58:50 77 13
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"Easiest deal, ever", "oven-ready deal" "Get Brexit done!"... all slogans for the empty-headed!
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17/12/2020 12:57:47 17 55
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When are you remainers going to get around to starting the Rejoin campaign. St Tony of Blair has got some time on his hands so coulda organise a petition and a march, and start legal action. Worked so well last time.
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17/12/2020 13:07:06 49 8
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52% easy to please. No benefits and all chaos but they are still supporting all this.
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17/12/2020 13:23:45 5 1
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"Ahhh last stumbling blocks. Was that not where we were a month ago?"

Yes. They are running out of metaphors to describe the unresolved issues.
17/12/2020 14:45:39 0 0
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YES ! IT HAS BEEN ANNOYING TO HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS DAILY LIES! BUT SOMEBODY HAD TO MAKE MONEY ON HOT AIR??
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17/12/2020 12:49:19 20 24
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Better get a move on then EU!

31/12/20 No Deal Brexit
14 days to go
??????
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17/12/2020 12:51:59 10 9
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Spam.
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17/12/2020 12:49:19 16 22
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Good to see that, after approval by the EMA, all 27 EU countries will start anti-Covid jabs on 27th December.

Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?

Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
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17/12/2020 12:51:51 18 8
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You will realize that we could do that even without Brexit. In that sense, it has nothing to do with Brexit. It's consequential.
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17/12/2020 12:56:02 4 2
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Quite right ... not one of the 27 triggered its 'right' to stand out from the crowd. So the EU wasted weeks and many lives will be lost simply to imply unity exists in the EU.
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17/12/2020 12:59:09 2 5
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If we couldn't do it if we were in the EU, then we would have had to wait 'til the end of the transition period....the fact is that approval was done according to EU regs. Amazing the lengths some people will go to to salvage their lies.
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17/12/2020 13:02:09 2 4
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And once we leave we become a third country and will not have access to the EMA. During the Brexit debate the leavers promised that drug regulations would remain the same .... I work in this area and it's catastrophic for UK companies - most are now moving manufacturing, storage and release activities to EU.
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17/12/2020 13:04:40 0 4
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In what way did UK approval have anything to do with Brexit? If RealityCheck is going to say it does they need supporting facts.

And how is it good that the Done thing delays people getting a vaccine? Putting ideology ahead of citizens?
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17/12/2020 13:24:11 0 3
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As the EMA is based in UK maybe you should ask them:

European Medicines Agency
30 Churchill Place
Canary Wharf
London E14 5EU
United Kingdom
Telephone +44 (0)20 3660 6000
Send a question via our website www.ema.europa.eu/contact
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17/12/2020 12:49:48 22 25
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Boris now caving in right left and centre, but he will still announce what's left as a truimph!
17/12/2020 16:20:04 1 1
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John - The article is nothing to do with Johnson. I therefore assume you are "stuck" in a mode of thinking. This is about an update on negotiations - which actually, look like they are gradually moving forward. Head up and look forward, mate.
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17/12/2020 12:49:59 3 7
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Oh dear hear we go again.......
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:50:10 29 24
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You are deluded
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17/12/2020 12:55:36 3 7
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Truth hurting?
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17/12/2020 12:50:12 201 42
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Get on with it! ??

Ps A deal will benefit everyone concerned so lets hope it does get concluded asap..
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17/12/2020 13:18:48 83 149
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Earlier, Michael Gove said the UK government would do "everything to secure a deal" with the EU.

Yes, they will sell the UK down the river to save their skins. Just like they did with the oven ready deal.

No way will they go no deal, at any cost.
17/12/2020 16:35:27 7 7
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We had a great deal within the EU thanks to Thatcher. Now all we will have is restricted access and long queues into Europe for our truckers, businesses and holiday makers. What is so good about Brexit ??
17/12/2020 22:51:18 1 0
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There are no deals possible in a Brexit scenario that benefit anyone.
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17/12/2020 12:50:13 34 31
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Just a bit more time needed to adjust Johnson's fig-leaf.
There isn't one big enough for the EU
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17/12/2020 12:50:15 25 32
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The EU is one massive stumbling block
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17/12/2020 12:52:14 31 22
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Don’t talk utter garbage. Globally other nations think that the UK leaving the EU, is stupid.
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17/12/2020 12:55:04 3 6
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Bit of chlorine and you'd swallow anything.
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17/12/2020 13:08:55 0 3
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How's Saxony these days?
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17/12/2020 12:50:32 236 51
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Another day, another Brexit HYS.
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17/12/2020 12:54:03 175 62
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Well spotted. Clever you :-)
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17/12/2020 13:01:38 7 3
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More people comment on here than the Express has got readers.
It's just the BBC seeking validation for their crooked journalism.
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17/12/2020 13:39:21 9 14
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and the remainer rants repetitive and no longer backed up with links or facts, as their claims and predictions are, one by one, shown to be lies and fancies.
17/12/2020 16:08:33 1 0
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Why are you here then?
17/12/2020 19:07:38 1 0
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It's a popular topic and gets way more hits than other HYS comment sections.

Dont worry, it's not a subversive plot by the BBC.
and all the same old comments :-(
17/12/2020 22:42:25 1 0
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Is your name Gypsy Rose Lee is your crystal ball foggy?
18/12/2020 00:15:33 0 0
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Because..! What do you expect?
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:50:39 9 8
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You're the second comment and must have typed this whilst the first was typing theirs, and you claim remainers are spitting blood.

Yet another brexit lie.....
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17/12/2020 12:50:51 30 33
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I presume that the last stumbling block is the EU itself
Not only is the EU stupid, it's unaccountable. Where's all the fuss about hedwig vonderhosen forgetting to pre-order the vaccine from pfizer. Zip, nada, nothing.
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17/12/2020 12:51:06 29 40
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Notice the change of mood music...?

Now it's the EU saying progress is being made. but the UK being rather less optimistic.

Boris has stayed strong and should be given credit for this
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17/12/2020 12:53:07 30 23
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Boris is the weakest PM for many years. Strong? only at telling lies and avoiding questions and accountability.
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17/12/2020 12:53:46 5 3
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Nope
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17/12/2020 12:58:40 3 13
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Too right. Starmer would have bent and accepted whatever the EU offered.
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17/12/2020 12:48:45 1590 615
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So what are the benefits of Brexit?

How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
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17/12/2020 12:51:18 1783 638
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There are none, and you won't be.
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17/12/2020 13:07:10 52 163
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Majority think otherwise.
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17/12/2020 13:13:34 20 89
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but the rest of us will be, and I've listed them so many times I can't be bothered to do it again for idiots with the memory span of a goldfish
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17/12/2020 12:51:20 24 32
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Brown trouser time for Barnier.
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17/12/2020 12:58:37 12 10
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I don’t think so, all the begging is coming from this side of the channel, or why would Johnson beg the EU to let him speak to Macron and Merkel.
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17/12/2020 13:08:19 2 2
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Brown trouser time for EU producers faced with a global level playing field in the 5th largest global economy
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17/12/2020 13:31:38 1 2
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Barnier has the support of the EU27. BJ tried to throw a spanner in the works by trying to go around him and speak to Macron/Merkel, completely ignoring the heads of state of the 25 other EU members. But then, diplomacy was never BJ's strong point. It's also the action of somebody in a losing position: if you cannot get what you want from your opponent, try and go around him. Didn't work, good.
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17/12/2020 12:51:24 26 22
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Problems with goods at ports have started in run up to Christmas. Won’t get easier comes January and Britain will remember it is a little island
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17/12/2020 12:59:21 21 16
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Oh we are just a little island ... worthless and horrible.

Yet we received more inward investment than any other nation in the world in 2019. All that money invested in a little worthless horrible place ... real money ... real jobs ... and all for the UK.
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17/12/2020 13:00:00 6 10
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A little island with the second largest population (market) in Europe, the fifth biggest economy in the world.
We are and always have been a world trading centre.

Stop undermining your own country with your inferiority complex and constant harping to the past when we were in the EU.
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17/12/2020 13:01:21 4 3
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Why would French ports want to delay Thier fresh produce which they won't get paid for if rotten.
17/12/2020 14:31:22 0 1
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in case you haven't noticed, most of Europe is locked-down thanks to covid, you think that has no effect?
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17/12/2020 12:51:40 76 44
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France's Emmanuel Macron has tested positive for Covid-19, forcing several European leaders to self-isolate after coming into contact with him.....If we can keep this 'virus' away from negotiations we have some hope of a deal. A deal in in the best interests of everyone.
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17/12/2020 13:08:01 163 24
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The UK is negotiating with the EU, not with France.
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17/12/2020 13:16:10 3 6
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And his wife is in the at risk elderly cohort, so it's a personal dilemma as well as a potential tragedy for the whole of Europe.
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17/12/2020 13:40:11 16 10
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Wrong, the UK is negotiating with France and Germany...that is the EU.
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17/12/2020 13:58:15 2 5
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Nothing quite likea bit of xenophobia , warms the cockles of your heart. Although I believe Macron speaks very highly of you
17/12/2020 16:01:53 2 0
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He's got a phone, you know...
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17/12/2020 12:51:46 25 32
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Looks like the rants from the EU flag wavers about BJ only wanting a no deal are lies ... as are most things they will state in the next 10,000 anti Brexit rants.

Copy and paste and multiple screen names abound ...
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17/12/2020 13:00:41 6 3
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Please prove the statement made in the final paragraph of your rant. You obviously have nothing positive to post and therefor feel compelled to resort to insults. You won please engage with us and show us, seeing as Brexit is so good, 5 positives that will improve the lot of the average citizen. I await with interest.
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17/12/2020 13:07:36 1 2
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Your need for attention is getting very desperate!
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17/12/2020 13:32:05 0 2
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Yep, back in the UKIP day, dissenting left wing voices were rare on this forum. Then about 2 years ago, suddenly there appeared to be a mass invasion by the left - in the run up to the last election it was clear that a left wing boiler room was in operation - probably momentum.
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17/12/2020 12:49:19 16 22
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Good to see that, after approval by the EMA, all 27 EU countries will start anti-Covid jabs on 27th December.

Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?

Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
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17/12/2020 12:51:51 18 8
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You will realize that we could do that even without Brexit. In that sense, it has nothing to do with Brexit. It's consequential.
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17/12/2020 12:55:35 3 2
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you do realise that is what he said but none of the 27 did
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17/12/2020 12:51:53 839 328
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Uncetainty, tariffs, delays, higher prices and fish. Tangible benefits of Brexit.
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17/12/2020 12:56:39 624 405
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Why do you think prices will go up in the medium to long term?
Prices went through the roof for food when we joined the EU due mainly to their protectionist policies , particularly the CAP.
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17/12/2020 12:58:45 44 70
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If food prices go up from abroad people buy less from them, and buy more home produced produce.
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17/12/2020 13:22:02 7 15
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Have you ever had an education?
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17/12/2020 13:22:02 8 16
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Uncertainty is temporary. It will go. Tariffs? Tariffs exist now (EC ones on 3rd countries). Look around your house. How many things do you see "made in China"?. China trades on WTO with EC.
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17/12/2020 13:27:10 5 9
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If you want EU Myths busted, try the Socialist Worker

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/42434/Six+myths+about+the+European+Union
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17/12/2020 13:27:39 4 11
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Why would fish be more expensive exactly?
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17/12/2020 13:55:11 3 8
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Not being in the EU, you missed one off.
17/12/2020 14:08:00 4 9
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Tangible benefits of remaining..giving away your fishing rights, being told what to do by unelected people and being subservient to France & Germany...no thanks
17/12/2020 14:40:50 2 1
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And loss of freedom, a weaker passport, more expensive holidays........
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:51:57 10 10
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Griping because it's going to almost halve our national prosperity and probably end up doing more damage to our international standing. Worst of all worlds.
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17/12/2020 12:49:19 20 24
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Better get a move on then EU!

31/12/20 No Deal Brexit
14 days to go
??????
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17/12/2020 12:51:59 10 9
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Spam.
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17/12/2020 13:20:22 1 1
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Spam, like any other prepared meat, will attract a tariff in the event of no trade agreement. But meat that's unfit for human consumption doesn't, so perhaps Spam will be OK.
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17/12/2020 12:52:00 51 49
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If it ever happens this is going to be the worst trade deal ever for the UK. We had the best deal as part of the EU. Leaving the EU was the worst decision possible. Now we will have years and years of higher prices. What exactly was the point of leaving? To take back control? There is also a rumour about a deal with the USA to reduce tariffs. Not a trade deal, because of the GFA. UK is finished :(
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17/12/2020 12:54:44 32 29
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You's better join the very, very long queue of people who have been predicting our imminent demise for the past 300 years!
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17/12/2020 12:57:19 8 9
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Cheer up !

Are you that confident that the UK is so weak we need to hang onto the EU apron strings to survive.

Do you have no faith in the UK business sector to progress and prosper in the long term?
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17/12/2020 13:00:13 5 9
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The "point" in leaving is that any hope of real democracy would have effectively gone forever had we remained. If you disagree with this, then you don't understand what the EU is and how it works, it's that simple.
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17/12/2020 12:50:15 25 32
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The EU is one massive stumbling block
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17/12/2020 12:52:14 31 22
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Don’t talk utter garbage. Globally other nations think that the UK leaving the EU, is stupid.
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17/12/2020 13:04:41 4 3
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Yes those that want more Free money from us.
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17/12/2020 13:37:51 1 2
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You're the one talking garbage - when did you become a spokesman for the world? I would imagine that S America, SE Asia and Africa, with their own non-political trade blocs, are thanking their lucky stars after seeing how badly this has worked out for Europe - hopefully they will learn from our mistakes.
17/12/2020 16:23:09 0 0
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But anyone without skin in the came can come to a flippant conclusion. What matters is that WE control OUR destiny. Not the opinion of someone in another country armed with an "opinion". Other people perhaps don't live with out outlook, history or prospects. I know a fair few people who look at the UK with envy.
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So what are the benefits of Brexit?

How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
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17/12/2020 12:52:42 177 490
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You will have your freedom and sovereignty restored. Isn't that enough?
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17/12/2020 12:55:49 364 62
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In what ways? It's all well and good using empty words and slogans, but how about some detail?
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What freedom had i lost, what will this freedom allow me to do that i couldn't in the EU?

I am guessing there will be no reply as you dont have an answer
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17/12/2020 12:58:43 268 36
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So I am free to travel and trade and live in Europe without a visa and for free? Awesome!
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17/12/2020 13:00:50 425 72
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That's a lie though, isn't it. We were always sovereign and free. We have now lost our freedom of movement in the EU. That is significant and will have very tangible disadvantages.
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17/12/2020 13:10:41 54 8
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That lockdowns and run by WTO then
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You obviously don't understand the meaning of neither Greenbob.
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17/12/2020 13:11:33 141 26
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I already had freedom (which we are about to lose some of) and I have not noticed any downside of working together within the EU - If you think minor changes in'sovereignty' is important enough to be ruled by clowns, then be careful what you wish for.
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17/12/2020 13:12:51 149 23
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No it really isn't. The promise was more wealth and general prosperity.

Sovereignty wont give the jobs back to Bridgend. Sovereignty wont feed people.

It is all bull, please don't pretend otherwise.
375
17/12/2020 13:17:32 83 9
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Taking away freedom of movement is, of course, less freedom.
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17/12/2020 13:19:28 44 7
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Don't need them, we already had them. Crass use of 'freedom' when there are Syrians living in tents in Lebanon and journalists arrested for doing their job. Two examples, of many, of having true freedom restricted when one of the leaver pillars of anti-EU rhetoric was the Freedom of Movement that protected yours. Enjoy your version of freedom. You can choose not to go outside your postcode area.
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17/12/2020 13:20:46 39 3
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We had that already.......
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:52:48 3 6
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I am a remainer who voted for Boris to get Brexit done - and I think he will. But the hard Brexiteers will not be happy with the outcome!
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:52:49 4 6
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What, a soft Brexit?! You've been had!!
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17/12/2020 12:52:53 18 20
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Well thank goodness we might still actually achieve something that will lessen the calamitous impact of Brexit on our economy despite our Govt. doing its best to scupper any deal.
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:52:56 8 6
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Farage spitting blood that Bojo has given in to the EUs demands
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17/12/2020 12:51:06 29 40
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Notice the change of mood music...?

Now it's the EU saying progress is being made. but the UK being rather less optimistic.

Boris has stayed strong and should be given credit for this
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17/12/2020 12:53:07 30 23
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Boris is the weakest PM for many years. Strong? only at telling lies and avoiding questions and accountability.
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17/12/2020 12:58:26 3 11
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What, weaker than Mother Teresa, Cameron, Blair, Brown, Major? These imbeciles were prepared to surrender even before asked to do so!
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17/12/2020 13:03:40 2 12
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First UK PM to support Our interests since Thatcher,
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17/12/2020 12:53:31 16 12
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The European Parliament will naturally want to scrutinise the deal carefully...before getting out its rubber stamp!
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17/12/2020 13:33:16 0 2
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Hahaha you are so right lol
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:53:41 9 5
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The day Johnson deliver anything at all maybe we can discuss it.
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:53:44 8 8
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Actually, it's more likely that Johnson's failing to deliver what we said was impossible, as he's finding out.

(Don't take it too hard, the PM's often said things it turns out he didn't mean. There's an empty ditch somewhere.)
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17/12/2020 12:53:46 9 9
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Don't you love the expression 'last stumbling blocks' when we have been stumbling for the last four years. Lets see if we can get a hit record to number one in the charts called "All I want for Christmas is a Deal"
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17/12/2020 12:56:15 8 12
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No stumbling just people trying to prevent the democratic process we have been using for years.
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17/12/2020 12:48:04 177 130
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Boris is just looking to pass the blame

Brexit is a disaster - 2021 will be goodnight UK
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17/12/2020 12:54:20 160 216
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Talking rubbish.
Try not to be so bitter, you lost the arguement - you hold a minority view and are incapable of looking forward.
The rest of us will make it work in spite of the backwards looking remoaners trying to undermine your own country in favour of the protectionist, out of control beurocracy that is the EU.
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17/12/2020 13:01:56 32 15
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You say it's a minority view, but we can't really know that, since the last national count was made in 2016. Maybe we should have another one?
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17/12/2020 13:06:35 6 7
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Dream on!
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17/12/2020 13:10:12 15 8
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About this "oven ready" deal he had .....
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17/12/2020 13:13:24 8 14
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I couldn’t agree more - well said.
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17/12/2020 13:18:34 14 3
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with respect , as a so-called remoaner, I will continue with all my efforts to both help people and make this country as good as it can be - as I do every day
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17/12/2020 13:23:58 9 6
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Please start studying economics at a basic level and you might start to see the light.
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17/12/2020 13:24:57 4 2
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That reads like blind hope attempting to overcome reality.
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17/12/2020 13:40:59 6 5
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The argument is still very much alive and will be for some time to come. (how about that for backwards looking) you will have to make it work because remain voters will look after themselves. You can buy British all you want but I avoid it wherever possible. As for 'out of control beurocracy' you might want to remember the case of a duck house related to an expenses scandal. UK gravy train.
17/12/2020 14:15:20 5 2
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Brilliant , time to go and wrap yourself in a union jack and give a hearty rendition of rule britania. . Accuse someone of talking rubbish then type a load of tosh.
17/12/2020 14:49:06 5 4
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Talking rubbish.
Try not to be so absurd, diminishing every comment to " naaah naah naah, we won, therefore your argument is invalid".

The rest of us, and like you, I am the personal representative of 11.4 million voters, would prefer to let the adults talk but "nerr nerr nerr you've got new shoes you've got new shoes you've got new shoes you smell" is what we see from your uncouth bilge. Shush.
17/12/2020 15:45:10 3 2
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We need only look at the thumbs up or down votes against pro-EU or Brexiter comments to see that Brexiters are now in a rapidly diminishing minority... one set to diminish ever more rapidly after Jan 1st 2021...
Rob
17/12/2020 16:05:18 2 1
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A sneering, snarky, unintelligent snipe - just add some lies and you have an argument for Brexit. You won the referendum with 37% of the vote, but as we now see, you lost the argument. Get over it.
17/12/2020 16:16:43 3 1
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just wishing for success won't achieve anything; start with removing the clown & useless cabinet. Replace with competent trustworthy people who are'nt corrupt then see what can be done.
17/12/2020 16:51:05 2 2
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It’s brexiters that are backwards looking. They voted leave to pursue a fiction of a glorious Britannia that hasn’t existed for over 100 years. And the numbers that voted to leave were such a slim majority it was not a decisive decision.
Soo
17/12/2020 18:34:59 1 1
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https://europa.eu/european-union/index_en
If, after 40+ years of membership, this is your honest understanding of the club you belonged to, I have no choice but to feel sorry for you...
17/12/2020 19:24:54 1 1
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"The rest of us will make it work in spite of the backwards looking remoaners trying to undermine your own country in favour of the protectionist, out of control beurocracy that is the EU."

You do talk a lot of rubbish, it was the brexiteers who voted leave because they believed the nonsense about 'taking back control' and other three word slogan lies.
17/12/2020 20:10:17 0 0
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Not sure you know what ‘work’ means.
17/12/2020 22:11:29 0 0
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Unlike British corrupt bureaucracy where Tory Mps give million pound contracts to their clueless friends and neighbours. Hey ,much better!
17/12/2020 22:21:59 0 0
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Think you will find the leave vote has undermined the country, good luck getting our home grown lazy and feckless to take on the work we have had to import employees to do for us.
17/12/2020 23:16:33 0 0
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How is it an out of control beurocracy?? Guess there'll be no beurocratic red tape with a "sovereign" government eh? ???????
18/12/2020 00:17:38 0 0
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How will you make it work? Are you in a position whereby you will be doing big business deals, jetting round the world doing lucrative trade? Or are you like the rest of us, reliant on others to get contracts and provide jobs. Cheering from the touch line doesn't work in these situations.
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17/12/2020 12:54:21 7 8
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No time for anyone who takes joy or satisfaction in the obvious distress this debacle is causing to people who feel strongly on both sides of the debate. It's Christmas with Covid, please curb the vitriol in the next few thousand posts!
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17/12/2020 13:12:35 1 2
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You don't really believe that its going to happen, do you?
Every Brexit related hys (I dread to think how many of those there have been) has contained an exchange of vitriolic insults. Both sides are firmly entrenched in their positions and consider that their opponents are idiots.
No doubt large numbers of comments will have been made a hundred times before.
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17/12/2020 12:48:51 360 114
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Ahhh last stumbling blocks. Was that not where we were a month ago? Mind you easiest deal ever so should all be done before Christmas.
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17/12/2020 12:52:45 276 501
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Oh no remainers! A deal is on the way. That wasn’t meant to happen now was it?

And cue:

‘It’s not as good as the deal we used to have’
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17/12/2020 12:57:19 63 10
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Don't let the truth get in the way, eh Project Fraud
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17/12/2020 13:09:20 75 7
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Moneys on us having the almost the same relationship we had with the EU, but with more tariffs, less negotiating power and no freedom of movement. Brexiteers dont realise we have left the EU in all but name. Don't for one minute think that the largest trading block has to bow down to the UK. We need their trade, thus we will have to adhere to their rules, but now we dont have a voice at the table
But many Breiters on HYS have been shouting that they understood exactly what the voted for in 2016 and they voted for a No Deal Brexit with all ties to the EU cut. Now which is it my boy?
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17/12/2020 13:14:15 4 2
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Now why on earth would anyone say that????
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17/12/2020 13:16:52 8 2
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Correct. Stupid to lose it, wasn't it.
519
17/12/2020 13:26:44 9 1
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I predict nobody will like the deal.

Remainers: This is worse than what we had!
Leavers: This is Brexit In Name Only (BRINO)!
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17/12/2020 13:54:51 9 3
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Remainers will be mightily relieved that there's a deal . And you're spot on it won't be as good as what we used to have .
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17/12/2020 14:03:22 6 2
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Its a deal on Whisky. If tariffs are removed its good for the Whisky industry.

Other than that no deal is currently being negotiated, only the possibility of said negotiations.

Your reactionary attitude to anything you read is to misinterpret, over simplify and then accuse remainers of being wrong based on said reaction.

And everyday you are shown to be wrong.
17/12/2020 14:07:14 3 1
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Can't wait to see it..... If and when it arrives - Clearly it is going to be better for us than the last deal we had otherwise why would we have left in the first place....
17/12/2020 14:08:42 7 1
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Well it won’t be as good as the deal we had. That’s the truth.
17/12/2020 14:25:58 2 2
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correct
17/12/2020 14:40:44 3 0
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We actually want a deal since it is likely the only way that we have a glimmer of hope in this sorry mess. Its the rabid Brexiters with their "no deal is better than a bad deal", "WTO will be fine". It will also be Brexiters that stand in the way because there is no doubt Boris's merry band are busy capitulating as grim reality sets in.
17/12/2020 15:31:13 2 0
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Well it's true, it won't be.
17/12/2020 15:36:48 2 0
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NO. Remainers were told there would be a deal, just like you were! Not sure how suddenly just because we manage to get a deal makes us better off out of the EU though. Thats just one small part of the equation
17/12/2020 15:37:19 4 1
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Can you give an example of how membership of the EU adversely affected you on a personal level?
Removed
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17/12/2020 12:52:00 51 49
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If it ever happens this is going to be the worst trade deal ever for the UK. We had the best deal as part of the EU. Leaving the EU was the worst decision possible. Now we will have years and years of higher prices. What exactly was the point of leaving? To take back control? There is also a rumour about a deal with the USA to reduce tariffs. Not a trade deal, because of the GFA. UK is finished :(
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17/12/2020 12:54:44 32 29
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You's better join the very, very long queue of people who have been predicting our imminent demise for the past 300 years!
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17/12/2020 13:02:23 4 4
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Bottom line of how affluent a country is, is how hard it's population is prepared to work. Japan, with no natural resources, was the world's 2nd biggest economy in the 80s - this was simply down to the attitudes of it's citizens and effective worker/employer relations.
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BZ
17/12/2020 13:06:35 3 3
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yes but this is suicide
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17/12/2020 12:54:53 314 148
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Biggest stumping block, Johnson and the ERG
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17/12/2020 12:56:37 335 320
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You mean they won't roll over like a labour leader would ?
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17/12/2020 12:57:58 14 21
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It wasn't the 40 or so members of the ERG that scuppered May's deal it was a about 300 Labour and Lib Dem MPs. Fortunately the Lib Dems are no longer relevant and I can;t see Labour voting down the choice between this, whatever it is is and no deal
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17/12/2020 13:04:48 14 23
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Without them the EU would walk all over us.....but then you'd no doubt be happy to surrender.
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17/12/2020 13:50:06 8 15
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I think youl find it was the remainers who tried to stop it at every turn .. stop lying
17/12/2020 14:10:01 2 7
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The ERG are too small to scupper anything now. If Labour vote for the deal (Which they probably will) there is nothing the ERG can do.
17/12/2020 15:42:44 0 0
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the name leather goth. would you care to expand on this?
17/12/2020 16:01:46 1 3
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Biggest stumbling block, EU inflexibility and beaurocracy.
17/12/2020 18:32:23 0 0
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I don't agree. I think the biggest stumbling block is Macron. He can smell English blood!
17/12/2020 21:38:38 0 0
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Nobody's going to vote in Parliament for a deal because there isn't going to be one
18/12/2020 07:41:37 0 0
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It was so much easier for the EU with that nice Mrs May. She just rolled over and took it like a good chap! That Starmer bloke would be even better, that photo of him kneeling is what he’d be like in negotiations.
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17/12/2020 12:55:18 96 65
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No deal is not going to happy. It's all a Boris bluff. A bunch of Eton chancers thinking they're clever by trying to make believe that the UK will walk away with no deal.

Boris is dumb, but not so dumb as to actually follow through on no deal.

You watch, a deal will be done.
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17/12/2020 13:09:12 31 20
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Yep, a deal will be done. But it will be solate that we will have to go into WTO rules for a few months and then onto new ones. As if it wasn't confusing enough...
Because without a deal the EU unravels even quicker.
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17/12/2020 13:13:02 9 2
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It's like they've taken their tactics from "Negotiating tactics for 5 yr olds"

They just don't realise how dumb it is to try and bluff when the other party can see exactly what cards you holding.

Holding out to the very last minute is not fooling anyone except a few children in the ERG.

Oh and crippling the country while they're at it.
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17/12/2020 13:54:48 2 3
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The EU are hinting at concessions, so it is possible, of course no HYS on that article, I wonder why not? ;-)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55297468
17/12/2020 14:50:52 6 1
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Yes, he'll probably come back waving some flimsy scrap of paper, claiming it's the "best deal ever". And his dimwitted followers will fall for his lies yet again.
17/12/2020 15:37:04 4 1
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Boris will do whatever is in the best interests of Boris.

If he's been told 'no deal' is disastrous for his career he will sign us up to a bad deal spun as the 'Best deal ever! Phwaor!'... and of course the plebs will buy it.
17/12/2020 16:10:59 1 2
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It must be wonderful to be so much wiser and morally superior to all those people in the government. Why don't you stand for office?
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17/12/2020 12:55:24 19 19
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It's not a trade deal - it's a measure of how big the sanctions will be. The UK is the only nation to ever negotiate the raising of trade barriers. Mindless, pointless, and the problems will be endless.

This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
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17/12/2020 12:58:19 5 13
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The UK will be in a better position with No Deal. It’s only the scaremongers and eu luvvies that don’t want to agree with the facts
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17/12/2020 12:59:58 0 3
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Cheer up ! I know Covid has got a lot of people to the edge of despair - but -

Are you that confident that the UK is so weak we need to hang onto the EU apron strings to survive.

Do you have no faith in the UK business sector to progress and prosper in the long term?
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17/12/2020 12:51:51 18 8
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You will realize that we could do that even without Brexit. In that sense, it has nothing to do with Brexit. It's consequential.
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17/12/2020 12:55:35 3 2
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you do realise that is what he said but none of the 27 did
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17/12/2020 12:55:36 15 22
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Here comes all the remoaners any moment now
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17/12/2020 12:56:39 7 4
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Such a mature post.

Not.
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17/12/2020 12:50:10 29 24
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You are deluded
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17/12/2020 12:55:36 3 7
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Truth hurting?
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17/12/2020 12:58:31 5 6
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No but Brexit stupidity does!
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17/12/2020 12:48:51 360 114
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Ahhh last stumbling blocks. Was that not where we were a month ago? Mind you easiest deal ever so should all be done before Christmas.
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17/12/2020 12:53:23 54 9
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No good would come of a No Deal Brexit.

All Johnson has is bluster.
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17/12/2020 12:48:04 177 130
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Boris is just looking to pass the blame

Brexit is a disaster - 2021 will be goodnight UK
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17/12/2020 12:53:34 15 4
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He's a blamethrower :)
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17/12/2020 12:51:06 29 40
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Notice the change of mood music...?

Now it's the EU saying progress is being made. but the UK being rather less optimistic.

Boris has stayed strong and should be given credit for this
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17/12/2020 12:53:46 5 3
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Nope
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17/12/2020 12:48:14 34 47
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Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
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17/12/2020 12:55:47 7 7
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The devil is in the detail, and Boris does not do detail so we might get a deal but it won’ t be as good as we have and might turn out to be a Christmas turd when it is examined in more scrutiny.??
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17/12/2020 12:52:42 177 490
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You will have your freedom and sovereignty restored. Isn't that enough?
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17/12/2020 12:55:49 364 62
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In what ways? It's all well and good using empty words and slogans, but how about some detail?
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17/12/2020 12:52:42 177 490
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You will have your freedom and sovereignty restored. Isn't that enough?
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17/12/2020 12:55:53 416 72
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What freedom had i lost, what will this freedom allow me to do that i couldn't in the EU?

I am guessing there will be no reply as you dont have an answer
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17/12/2020 12:55:57 411 107
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Neither side can afford a no deal outcome. It was always a game of brinkmanship and who blinks first. EU playing a game that it was touch and go because they don't want all the other EU countries to ask for concessions.
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17/12/2020 13:16:29 651 258
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The EU is not as desperate as us for a deal (at any cost). You can't leave a club and expect to retain all the benefits, without contributing and adhering to the rules of the club.
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17/12/2020 13:16:57 40 14
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Boris will get a trash deal and claim it's the best deal ever. He knows no deal would be political and economic suicide.

Remember the last minute 'oven ready' ready that breaks up the UK by putting a trade border between N. Ireland and GB? You know, the one he then wanted to break international law to get out of
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17/12/2020 13:26:27 10 9
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Unfortunately more factions in the EU and quite a few in the UK stand to gain significantly from a no deal outcome. That it exactly what it making this process difficult. If everybody gained, it would be easy!
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17/12/2020 13:44:08 25 5
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Both sides can afford a no deal outcome - the UK won't go bankrupt overnight.
However, the UK has more to lose proportionally than the EU, so proportionally we will be worse off on average.
So by your reckoning we will have a deal by the 1st? I am not so sure.
17/12/2020 14:36:11 6 9
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Yes, but Spaffer Johnson gambled on having his newly relected mentor back in the White House right about now. He lost. The UK is now in a much weaker position going into the final talks.

Johnson exudes faux positivity, but he is just a gambler and a chancer. So many of the faux positivity cult seem to confuse their reckless gambling nature for being positive. It is not.
17/12/2020 15:29:49 1 0
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Most wars start with that sort of thinking too.
17/12/2020 17:15:23 1 0
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Why can't the eu afford nobdeal

They ONLY import and export less than 10% of their total imports and exports

Opps I forget you think the uk buys 100% of goods produced in eu and sells 100% of their needs - what a blinkered dope
17/12/2020 18:14:52 1 1
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Just a guess but I suspect the combined 27 countries need UK somewhat less than UK needs them.
They will watch, though, and IF the UK succeeds the EU may change. Otherwise, probably not. So in reality the Leave vote was UK volunteering to become an economic survival test case. Sink or swim.
But that's Project Fear talk.
17/12/2020 19:51:15 2 2
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I WISH you were correct ...
The EU would like a deal, it's better for them, as well ... Problem, though .....
Can they TRUST BoZo the clown & his misgovernment of fools & liars to keep their word?
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17/12/2020 12:49:19 16 22
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Good to see that, after approval by the EMA, all 27 EU countries will start anti-Covid jabs on 27th December.

Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?

Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
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17/12/2020 12:56:02 4 2
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Quite right ... not one of the 27 triggered its 'right' to stand out from the crowd. So the EU wasted weeks and many lives will be lost simply to imply unity exists in the EU.
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17/12/2020 12:53:46 9 9
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Don't you love the expression 'last stumbling blocks' when we have been stumbling for the last four years. Lets see if we can get a hit record to number one in the charts called "All I want for Christmas is a Deal"
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17/12/2020 12:56:15 8 12
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No stumbling just people trying to prevent the democratic process we have been using for years.
I cannot find anything on the BBC about the sad fact that UNICEF is stepping in the help feed UK children for the first time, or the fact that tax dodging tory millionaire Jacob Rees- Mogg has said they should be ashamed for doing this!! He should be ashamed along with all his party for their policies that have led to a charity normally associated with the 3rd world having to give aid to the UK Removed
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17/12/2020 12:56:22 433 190
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When Barnier talks about 'stumbling blockheads' I think he's talking about the UK government.
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17/12/2020 13:02:36 305 139
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And their toxic base.
Don't give up the day job, buddy.
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17/12/2020 13:17:55 7 12
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Or could he be referring to you?
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17/12/2020 13:50:14 4 12
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No s**** Sherlock, and when the UK talks of Sovereignty they are talking about Sovereignty
17/12/2020 15:39:17 2 0
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Hoddy you should know.
17/12/2020 15:59:41 7 5
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No, he is talking about Remainers who cannot accept the result of a vote.
17/12/2020 16:41:15 2 0
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Not deranged Macron then?
17/12/2020 17:22:53 2 3
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That's it. You support the EU against the UK.
Thanks
17/12/2020 17:53:15 1 2
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Boris Johnson must resign now
17/12/2020 20:23:45 2 0
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It means UK are NOT agreeing to what he demands.In other words "do as i say"
17/12/2020 21:28:07 1 0
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Stumbling blockheads seem to be mainly on these posts !
17/12/2020 22:04:23 1 0
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He's talking about himself
17/12/2020 23:00:24 0 0
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He was polite and left out the middle word, imbicile.
17/12/2020 23:41:05 1 0
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So the EU introduction of new issues on the level playing field just a couple of weeks ago was not a stumbling block? You do realise this is about trying to get the best deal for the UK, and not a deal at all costs don't you?
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17/12/2020 12:54:53 314 148
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Biggest stumping block, Johnson and the ERG
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17/12/2020 12:56:37 335 320
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You mean they won't roll over like a labour leader would ?
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17/12/2020 13:27:37 6 2
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I think it means that without them we would not have a purely ideological position but would probably consider with care the financial and commercial situation of a deal/no deal.
17/12/2020 14:11:00 14 7
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Wouldn't have to. They'd never have been dumb enough to give the public a vote on it . Unlike that Eton twerp Cameron who sold the country down the river in exchange for votes in a general election
17/12/2020 14:12:04 13 5
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If by roll over you mean put the interests of the country first then yes.
17/12/2020 14:47:21 4 0
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Johnson is thick as mince with no eye for detail, and ERG couldn't give monkeys about anything but tax-havens (excess of) and financial transparency (absence of), both of which the EU were threatening.
And you miss the point that Corbyn was a Leaver-of-conscience, while Boris was a Leaver-of-convenience (hence current BRINO approach). You don't know where Labour would have gone with it
17/12/2020 15:37:55 2 0
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Oh, did Mrs Thatcher roll-over when she took us into the EU. Or do you think, just possibly that she spouted all the anti-Europe nonsense to keep her Daily Mail reading constituency on-side, then got on with doing what she knew to be best for the country?
17/12/2020 15:38:21 4 2
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"You mean they won't roll over like a labour leader would ?"

He is folding like a deckchair you clapped out clowns.

A border down the Irish Sea - and - unbelievably - between Kent and the rest of the UK.

Every single promise broken, and STILL you grovel.

Any rubbish from any old dim lightbulb toff will do you, just so long as he tells you its OK to blame Pakistan.

Contemptible
17/12/2020 15:59:34 3 0
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They have already rolled over and are giggling like demented babies. Why have we given up our right to work and study in Europe? Why have we given up our access to criminal databases? Why have we landed our people with taxes on goods? Why have we lumbered our companies with mounds of paperwork? etc. etc.
17/12/2020 16:57:25 3 0
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If we had a Labour government we wouldn't be in this pile of S...e
SJ
17/12/2020 17:14:53 2 0
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Labour offered the public a say in the future relationship with Europe. The Tories said no say for you lot, we can handle this...
17/12/2020 18:45:03 0 1
bbc
Lets hope they dont! However Labour never had any intention of honouring the result of the referendum and Sir Keir Starmer attempted to twart Brexit right from the start.
17/12/2020 20:27:45 0 0
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and that needed saying.bravo
xlr
17/12/2020 20:43:24 1 0
bbc
Since when has the Tory inability to compromise actually been more than a pensioner-pleaser?

It has proven utterly useless through the years in dealing with a diverse number of problems, everything from the Troubles in Ireland to Scottish separatism to high crime rates.
17/12/2020 21:04:54 0 1
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Imagine if corbyn had won? Have anything you want EU!
17/12/2020 21:14:06 0 0
bbc
No, that was Jeremy Thorpe wasn't it?
17/12/2020 21:14:42 0 1
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apologies i retract that. inappropriate
17/12/2020 21:29:55 0 1
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Just imagine if Corbin had been negotiating...God save us !
18/12/2020 01:35:52 0 0
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They won't 'roll over' because they don't want a deal - even now that it is all too obvious how much the country and its people will suffer.
Disaster capitalists need a disaster.
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17/12/2020 12:51:53 839 328
bbc
Uncetainty, tariffs, delays, higher prices and fish. Tangible benefits of Brexit.
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17/12/2020 12:56:39 624 405
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Why do you think prices will go up in the medium to long term?
Prices went through the roof for food when we joined the EU due mainly to their protectionist policies , particularly the CAP.
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17/12/2020 12:58:31 69 19
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Because experts in the sector say so.
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17/12/2020 13:05:36 50 53
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and don't forget the EU required us to introduce VAT so say thank you to them for that as well
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17/12/2020 13:06:04 68 15
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The EU CAP had very little to do with the rapid rise of food prices in 73-74 (see https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/6339175.pdf)
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17/12/2020 13:07:21 79 23
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"Prices went through the roof for food when we joined the EU "

Try not to make things up
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17/12/2020 13:19:28 60 21
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If you take a walk around supermarket you will already notice price changes. Simple economics is the reason which most Brexiteers do not understand in first place. Look at what we import and who does work for a lot of farming exports.
834
17/12/2020 13:52:02 7 2
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Possibly because even the clowns in government accept that this will be the case
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17/12/2020 13:59:12 4 9
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EU Myth Buster probably wasn't even a glimmer in his daddies eye when we joined the EEC. Note, EEC, European Econonmic Community, NOT European Union, completely different institution. Which is what you remoaners try to keep quiet about, the stealthy way the whole shebang changed to a political union. Would I trust the EU, never in a millio years, the whole thing is built on deceit!!
17/12/2020 14:04:48 5 1
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Tariffs will ultimately be passed on to the end user, otherwise all companies along a value chain will go bankrupt. Like VAT.
17/12/2020 14:23:39 3 1
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As ever you are missing the points
1) we got a REBATE on the CAP (Maggie)
2) the CAP is actually a food subsidy, so taxpayers could subsidise non-taxpayers food for them. That will end, and there is no evidence that farming will suddenly become cheaper
17/12/2020 14:38:51 2 0
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CAP is maybe the biggest and most intractable problems with the whole set up .....brings the French farmers in to play, rarely a good thing .........
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17/12/2020 12:56:50 1414 480
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Anyone who is still under the illusion that WTO terms are a good place to be, you do realise that you have to follow THEIR rules to participate, you have no say in them, no sovereignty. You DO know that, don't you??
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17/12/2020 13:01:04 758 871
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Quite wrong. The UK gains a seat on the WTO on leaving the EU.
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17/12/2020 13:01:06 126 68
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We already use WTO rules with other countries.....keep up!
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17/12/2020 13:17:57 15 122
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What nonsense............
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17/12/2020 13:26:15 43 145
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You do realies that in the EU we trade with a large number of countries around the world WTO? Including our largest customer, the US, who are now confident a trade deal can be signed - 40 years in the EU and no US trade deal!!!
613
17/12/2020 13:35:22 6 21
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In any case, the WTO has no enforcement mechanism which was confirmed the other day on BBC News in an interview with its former vice president. WTO allows countries to make their own arrangements and the so called tariffs are nothing but maximum amounts - nothing to stop the UK and EU agreeing to zero tariffs even under WTO.
742
17/12/2020 13:46:28 6 8
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you do know that WTO only apply until you strike a trade deal with whoever your trading with, something we could'nt do inside the EU.
863
17/12/2020 13:54:30 7 15
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Yes, but we don't hand the WTO the keys to our house, the keys to our car and control of our bank account.
17/12/2020 14:10:39 2 4
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False equivalence argument. The difference is that the WTO is just a set of baseline rules, the EU's comes with too many onerous demands.
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17/12/2020 12:57:12 234 71
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Games Workshop is worth more to GDP than Brexit fishing. Why don’t we commission to make us some miniatures then we can all pretend to play at being Navy commanders.
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17/12/2020 13:00:13 220 344
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The only reason that fishing is not a huge contributor to our GDP is because the EU take most of our fish......or has that fact passed you by?
117
17/12/2020 13:01:28 14 5
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Let's all paint lead orcs!
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17/12/2020 13:10:38 20 1
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For the record, I'm not a Brexiteer....

I saw that post on Reddit too, and it was a false comparison.

They were comparing GW's market capitalisation to 1 years revenue from the British fishing industry.
691
17/12/2020 13:42:06 8 2
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Brexit bonus...a box of space marines for all. When we all have to buy the expensive paints it will cover furlough instantly
because you donut, it is worth a great deal to the EU, therefore it is valuable to us because of it's 'EU market value' - are all rejoiners so dumb? Removed
17/12/2020 15:38:32 1 1
bbc
Just think about it for 5 minutes. Does this really sound like a credible claim?
17/12/2020 16:43:26 1 0
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I think Warlord Games produces the best Naval Miniatures (Victory at Sea, Black Seas and Crues Seas). I live in Germany and would not like to pay costums for them. Boris, please have mercy!
17/12/2020 17:57:20 0 0
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Battleships you mean
17/12/2020 21:08:12 0 0
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thats just a flat out lie GW net income last year under 66 million. The UK's fishing and fish processing industries employ 24,000 people and contribute 1.4 billion. Dont lie tell the truth
17/12/2020 21:33:05 0 2
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Fishing is about sovereignty......Fisheries have been sold down the river in the past. Maybe lots of little GDP issues could be given away...BREXIT means leaving the EU and gaining Sovereignty.
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17/12/2020 12:57:12 9 18
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Farce upon farce. Just call it quits. Leave with No Deal. Just state a Canada deal or WTO. We keep our fish and sell to the french or better still we keep it and eat it
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17/12/2020 13:01:58 1 1
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You wish.
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17/12/2020 12:52:00 51 49
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If it ever happens this is going to be the worst trade deal ever for the UK. We had the best deal as part of the EU. Leaving the EU was the worst decision possible. Now we will have years and years of higher prices. What exactly was the point of leaving? To take back control? There is also a rumour about a deal with the USA to reduce tariffs. Not a trade deal, because of the GFA. UK is finished :(
65
17/12/2020 12:57:19 8 9
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Cheer up !

Are you that confident that the UK is so weak we need to hang onto the EU apron strings to survive.

Do you have no faith in the UK business sector to progress and prosper in the long term?
40
17/12/2020 12:52:45 276 501
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Oh no remainers! A deal is on the way. That wasn’t meant to happen now was it?

And cue:

‘It’s not as good as the deal we used to have’
66
17/12/2020 12:57:19 63 10
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Don't let the truth get in the way, eh Project Fraud
13
17/12/2020 12:50:32 236 51
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Another day, another Brexit HYS.
67
17/12/2020 12:54:03 175 62
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Well spotted. Clever you :-)
17/12/2020 17:20:59 0 0
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Inane reply. Clever you :-(
17/12/2020 22:59:26 1 0
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Bell
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17/12/2020 12:54:12 17 15
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Easiest stumbling blocks ever.

Oven ready.

Just like 'the leave campaign'.
592
17/12/2020 13:32:50 2 4
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Not a bad campaign...we won. ;-) as will boris and frost...the temperature has just been turned up on the eu Turkey's.
17/12/2020 14:48:44 0 0
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you mean 'winners' ;-)
12
17/12/2020 12:50:15 25 32
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The EU is one massive stumbling block
69
17/12/2020 12:55:04 3 6
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Bit of chlorine and you'd swallow anything.
70
17/12/2020 12:55:20 17 27
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Can't wait for Jan 1st, Rule Brittania
175
17/12/2020 13:01:34 2 3
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Puerile
273
17/12/2020 13:04:48 0 2
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There will be a delay, I suspect.

And even if we do leave on time, you won't be able to celebrate in public due to the lockdown. How funny.
4
17/12/2020 12:48:51 360 114
bbc
Ahhh last stumbling blocks. Was that not where we were a month ago? Mind you easiest deal ever so should all be done before Christmas.
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17/12/2020 12:55:28 28 115
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Mind you, we’d have got a deal months ago had the remainers not spent 4 1/2 years trying to do a Trump by overturning a democratic decision.
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17/12/2020 12:58:21 27 7
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Aww diddums
538
17/12/2020 13:28:08 16 2
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If 43.6% of the vote results in a Cons majority in the HoC in 2019, surely it must be the failure of Brexit Voters (52% of referendum vote) to agree following the referendum, that delayed implementing Brexit.

The problem was, Brexiteers never had a coherent plan, this was the reason for any delay. But don't let facts stop you owning the consequencies of your decision.
558
17/12/2020 13:29:58 11 2
bbc
The ERG, DUP and Boris all voted against May's deal not once but twice (and three times for some). My memory is a bit fuzzy but I'm pretty sure they were all Brexiteers so maybe the blame for Brexit delays lies closer to home
623
17/12/2020 13:26:02 11 3
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"Mind you, we’d have got a deal months ago had the remainers not"

Take responsibility for your actions. You voted for this mess, don't blame those who voted against it. And making up fairy tales won't help.
841
17/12/2020 13:52:23 10 3
bbc
The problem all along has been that leave never defined what they wanted and there has never been a single vision of leave that the majority actually wanted. The problem is the failure to deliver cake and eat it by the leave campaign.

Blaming remoaners is childish abuse. Project leave has failed to deliver.
856
17/12/2020 13:53:46 9 2
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Since when were ERG remainers - they consistently voted to prevent progress.
17/12/2020 14:29:08 2 0
bbc
Oh god "now wash your hands please" has escaped again
Jim
17/12/2020 14:52:26 3 0
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Yes, that's exactly the issue, not the bunch of inept clowns in charge of the deal, not the hubris of thinking the biggest market in the world would kneel to us, no, it's the remainers that are the issue. ??
17/12/2020 15:28:12 3 0
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"Mind you, we’d have got a deal months ago had the remainers not spent 4 1/2 years trying to do a Trump by overturning a democratic decision."

Brexiters are notably incoherent clapped out fools but this really does take the biscuit. Its not our fault you inflicted dishonest imbeciles on the rest of us. And explain that metaphor, troll. Makes no sense whatsoever
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17/12/2020 12:57:43 18 14
bbc
Stumbling block hhmmm-

More like the UK are staggering towards the finish line
&
the prize they win is failure and economic catastrophe
507
17/12/2020 13:25:40 5 2
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Is that what you actually want for your country and family prospects? How sad.
73
17/12/2020 12:57:56 15 12
bbc
I' guess that Bojo is still desperately trying to wangle a way of making himself look like 'our' hero

Give it to johnny foreigner Bojo, wot wot
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17/12/2020 12:57:57 16 17
bbc
I love watching a good car crash. Especially when the driver is pissed on his own self importance.
I do take delight in watching this crash, because it was predicted, and still they wanted it this way.
102
17/12/2020 13:00:23 9 9
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You do realise that the car hasn't crashed yet and if it does it might just be a bumper scratch.
116
17/12/2020 13:01:28 2 6
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What crash is that ... I don't see a crash, I see deft manoeuvring by the UK getting us out of the UK and out of the grasp of the EU for the rest of our lives.

Long live UK prosperity ...
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17/12/2020 13:05:38 1 1
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Most of us are watching from inside the car
43
17/12/2020 12:54:53 314 148
bbc
Biggest stumping block, Johnson and the ERG
75
17/12/2020 12:57:58 14 21
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It wasn't the 40 or so members of the ERG that scuppered May's deal it was a about 300 Labour and Lib Dem MPs. Fortunately the Lib Dems are no longer relevant and I can;t see Labour voting down the choice between this, whatever it is is and no deal
294
17/12/2020 13:13:13 23 2
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Poor attempt to re-write history. Any party with a majority (in this case with the bribed DUP) should be able to get their legislation through parliament. Unless their MPs rebel, which is what happened.
17/12/2020 14:13:44 8 1
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The Tories had the numbers if they all voted for May's deal there was nothing Labour could have done.
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17/12/2020 12:58:02 18 19
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Give a xmas bresent and let the UK go into the wonderful world on WTO and no deal, We can again show what liars run our country and whom were the cause of all of that, hopefully someone will then hold them to account

4 years of sqabble, insults and lies about the EU
121
17/12/2020 13:01:51 0 1
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present, sorry
451
17/12/2020 13:22:18 1 1
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4 years since the ref and the lies that have surfaced were from all the manufacturers that were going to leave if we voted Brexit...and then didnt leave after we did vote Brexit plus mass unemployment didnt happen, nor gdp collapse ...which world have you been inhabiting ?
17/12/2020 14:38:45 0 0
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Wow, a rejoiner admitting they've indulged in 4 years of insults and lies - must be worried he was on Santa's naughty list.
77
17/12/2020 12:58:09 6 5
bbc
Phew. well done all (whatever the rolling eyes thingy is)
78
17/12/2020 12:58:11 13 22
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Emmanuel Macron has tested positive for Covid-19, forcing several European leaders to self-isolate after coming into contact with him. Macron is the epitome of toxicity and has been one of the huge 'Last stumbling blocks'. If he could be completely isolated without communication perhaps we could get a deal done.
With any luck he’ll die Removed
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JSS
17/12/2020 13:00:59 2 2
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No, he's looking after for French workers. Shame we don't have anybody looking out for the UK workforce.
123
17/12/2020 13:01:54 1 2
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Yes it's such a pity that the EU member states are 'sovereign' and 'independent' isn't it..yet I thoght you siad they were all vassal states....?
124
17/12/2020 13:01:54 0 1
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Repeating it every few minutes doesn't make your comment funny or any cleverer!
135
17/12/2020 13:02:51 2 1
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Nasty comment. Says a lot about you.
145
17/12/2020 12:59:56 0 1
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crikey - epitome of toxicity? That's cons, is he trying to nick their world-beating title ?
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17/12/2020 12:55:24 19 19
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It's not a trade deal - it's a measure of how big the sanctions will be. The UK is the only nation to ever negotiate the raising of trade barriers. Mindless, pointless, and the problems will be endless.

This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
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17/12/2020 12:58:19 5 13
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The UK will be in a better position with No Deal. It’s only the scaremongers and eu luvvies that don’t want to agree with the facts
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17/12/2020 13:12:14 1 1
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You wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bity you. If leaving the EU is such a good idea, why was membership a central plank of every UK political party's manifesto since 1983 and why has the "domino effect" of our leaving turned out to be a 10-15% jump in the popularity of the EU in every European country INCLUDING the UK?
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17/12/2020 12:53:07 30 23
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Boris is the weakest PM for many years. Strong? only at telling lies and avoiding questions and accountability.
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17/12/2020 12:58:26 3 11
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What, weaker than Mother Teresa, Cameron, Blair, Brown, Major? These imbeciles were prepared to surrender even before asked to do so!
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17/12/2020 12:55:36 3 7
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Truth hurting?
81
17/12/2020 12:58:31 5 6
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No but Brexit stupidity does!
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17/12/2020 12:56:39 624 405
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Why do you think prices will go up in the medium to long term?
Prices went through the roof for food when we joined the EU due mainly to their protectionist policies , particularly the CAP.
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17/12/2020 12:58:31 69 19
bbc
Because experts in the sector say so.
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17/12/2020 14:00:22 4 7
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Lets be a litle more honest Zeppe, SOME experts say so, others say not. There you go, reasoned debate, not something we get from remoaners, they who are never wrong hey lol
17/12/2020 14:14:12 1 3
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Hey, and who knows - these experts might actually be the first to get something right in the last 10 years.
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17/12/2020 12:51:20 24 32
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Brown trouser time for Barnier.
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17/12/2020 12:58:37 12 10
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I don’t think so, all the begging is coming from this side of the channel, or why would Johnson beg the EU to let him speak to Macron and Merkel.
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17/12/2020 12:51:06 29 40
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Notice the change of mood music...?

Now it's the EU saying progress is being made. but the UK being rather less optimistic.

Boris has stayed strong and should be given credit for this
84
17/12/2020 12:58:40 3 13
bbc
Too right. Starmer would have bent and accepted whatever the EU offered.
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17/12/2020 12:52:42 177 490
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You will have your freedom and sovereignty restored. Isn't that enough?
85
17/12/2020 12:58:43 268 36
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So I am free to travel and trade and live in Europe without a visa and for free? Awesome!
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17/12/2020 12:51:53 839 328
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Uncetainty, tariffs, delays, higher prices and fish. Tangible benefits of Brexit.
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17/12/2020 12:58:45 44 70
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If food prices go up from abroad people buy less from them, and buy more home produced produce.
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17/12/2020 13:07:56 100 14
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We import over 40% of our food, majority of which comes from/through EU countries. We've not been self-sufficent for food production in hundreds of years. How would you propose resolving this in 15 days time?
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AC
17/12/2020 13:11:29 47 7
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but like in the lead up to WWII farming and agriculture have been demolished and UK no longer produces enough food to sustain the people.
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17/12/2020 13:49:14 12 2
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Where does your additional home grown capacity come from?
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Ian
17/12/2020 13:57:55 4 2
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That assumes that people food tastes are very price elastic, if people want French cheese or German Sausage and do not consider Somerset Brie or English charcuterie equivalent then their costs will rise. Also a lot of UK produce is made using EU derived ingredients. Oh and if our producers which to export to keep up economies of scale they will have to pay for all of tht red tape as well
17/12/2020 14:07:55 6 4
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Yes, we can all eat all the home grown 'out of season' produce like tomatos/grapes/lettuce/cucumber, oh wait, we'll just all have to eat cabbage and potato as the rest don't grow here in winter, and sing songs about the war/vera lynn/spitfires/and all those bad "foreeners" I expect.
17/12/2020 14:27:47 2 0
bbc
That is the issue we are not geared up to produce more home grown produce
17/12/2020 14:42:10 3 0
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We can't produce enough food to feed everyone.
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17/12/2020 12:48:51 360 114
bbc
Ahhh last stumbling blocks. Was that not where we were a month ago? Mind you easiest deal ever so should all be done before Christmas.
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17/12/2020 12:58:50 77 13
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"Easiest deal, ever", "oven-ready deal" "Get Brexit done!"... all slogans for the empty-headed!
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17/12/2020 13:19:44 1 13
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I'm always impressed by your brazen ability to lie, Boris could take lessons from rejoiners. No matter how many times you are proven to lie, you just keep on doing it. Here is the "FULL" quote re Easiest deal". Fox was right ,"The only reason we wouldn't come to a free and open agreement is because politics gets in the way of economics," EU politics.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40667879
17/12/2020 15:03:54 0 0
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Are you talking about the ones who used to use those slogans, or the ones who currently use them? You weren't clear.
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17/12/2020 12:59:03 1188 403
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"Easiest deal, ever", "oven-ready deal" "Get Brexit done!"... all slogans for the empty-headed!
Like "500k jobs lost" just for voting leave?

Voting leave is "like placing a bomb under the economy".

All rubbish lies that leavers didn't believe.
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17/12/2020 13:09:53 33 75
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Take a look at every HYS for the past four years and you'll find equivalent Remain slogans being trotted out by the same people!
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17/12/2020 13:10:31 30 111
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Yes, the empty headed Remainers always fall back on these clichés, don't they? Cartoon criticism from EU luvvies.
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17/12/2020 13:10:58 70 7
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Don't forget "brexit means brexit"
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17/12/2020 13:14:28 33 101
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No. This political brick wall is all EU and trade deal would be easiest deal ever without this political Federal State Dictatorship punishment for daring to want to leave. Leaving is by far the better choice when faced with mandatory Euro, mandatory EU military, mandatory EU budget cap, mandatory ECJ, mandatory immigration, mandatory everything!
LOL slogans for the empty headed? You are repeating yourself, and so I'll repeat my reply ,sort of - you are lying and you repeatedly do so, no matter how many times I correct you, you continue to lie. Here is the FULL quote re easiest deal, as you well know Fox was right the EU politics got in the way

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40667879
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17/12/2020 14:32:32 4 0
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How many thickies use " oven ready deal " when discussing the trade part of the deal ?
17/12/2020 14:36:27 11 1
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The Tories figured out some time ago that Brexity plebs can only comprehend slogans of up to three words.
This is why they communicate using lines of emoticons on Facebook.
17/12/2020 14:52:50 0 9
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I'd really hate to live in your negative world
17/12/2020 15:27:36 6 3
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If 52% of the voting population are empty headed you'd better start looking for a new country to live in. Why not try somewhere in the EU?
17/12/2020 15:35:36 1 2
bbc
How immature.
17/12/2020 15:45:48 1 1
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"Easiest deal, ever", "oven-ready deal" "Get Brexit done!"...all slogans misunderstood and misrepresented by the empty headed!

The 'oven ready deal' was actually the Withdrawal Agreement...even the BBC accepts that this is often misrepresented!
Brexit was done...on 31st Jan 2020!
The 'easiest deal' related to the idea that the UK should adopt a 'Canada' FTA...it was the EU that has refused this!
17/12/2020 15:50:09 0 1
bbc
Hre we go again: "I am a Remainer, which makes me cleverer, better educated, and much more sophisticated than the Leave supporters".
17/12/2020 15:48:25 0 0
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Shafting us all should be the new 3 word slogan
17/12/2020 16:06:11 1 1
bbc
Slogans that an ineffective Remain campaign couldn't do anything about it would seem.
You had 40 years to persuade people of the merits of the EU and in June 2016 you only managed to convince about one third of eligible voters.
Dismal performance and only yourselves to blame.
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17/12/2020 12:49:19 16 22
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Good to see that, after approval by the EMA, all 27 EU countries will start anti-Covid jabs on 27th December.

Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?

Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
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17/12/2020 12:59:09 2 5
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If we couldn't do it if we were in the EU, then we would have had to wait 'til the end of the transition period....the fact is that approval was done according to EU regs. Amazing the lengths some people will go to to salvage their lies.
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17/12/2020 13:05:02 5 2
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yet another remoaner who didn't read what he wrote and has to have a go at anyone who highlights an EU failure. If the 27 could have authorized the vaccine why didn't they and saved lives?
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17/12/2020 12:59:15 35 28
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another johnson balls up
he'll be at home talkling to the Commission then
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17/12/2020 13:16:56 0 1
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Well, he has already worked his way through all the other forms that 'UPS' there can possibly be !!!
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17/12/2020 12:58:11 13 22
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Emmanuel Macron has tested positive for Covid-19, forcing several European leaders to self-isolate after coming into contact with him. Macron is the epitome of toxicity and has been one of the huge 'Last stumbling blocks'. If he could be completely isolated without communication perhaps we could get a deal done.
With any luck he’ll die Removed
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17/12/2020 13:02:35 2 1
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You should retract that comment!
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17/12/2020 13:04:13 1 1
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With any luck you will be ashamed of what you wrote, but like Boris’s integrity, I doubt it.??
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17/12/2020 12:51:24 26 22
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Problems with goods at ports have started in run up to Christmas. Won’t get easier comes January and Britain will remember it is a little island
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17/12/2020 12:59:21 21 16
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Oh we are just a little island ... worthless and horrible.

Yet we received more inward investment than any other nation in the world in 2019. All that money invested in a little worthless horrible place ... real money ... real jobs ... and all for the UK.
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17/12/2020 13:20:34 4 2
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and all that money laundered...
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17/12/2020 12:59:42 13 12
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The last stumbling block before Boris falls flat on his face.
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17/12/2020 12:55:36 15 22
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Here comes all the remoaners any moment now
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17/12/2020 12:56:39 7 4
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Such a mature post.

Not.
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17/12/2020 12:55:24 19 19
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It's not a trade deal - it's a measure of how big the sanctions will be. The UK is the only nation to ever negotiate the raising of trade barriers. Mindless, pointless, and the problems will be endless.

This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
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17/12/2020 12:59:58 0 3
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Cheer up ! I know Covid has got a lot of people to the edge of despair - but -

Are you that confident that the UK is so weak we need to hang onto the EU apron strings to survive.

Do you have no faith in the UK business sector to progress and prosper in the long term?
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17/12/2020 13:08:48 1 1
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Define long-term, 10 years, 50 years ? I'm more concerned about 2021 not 2031.
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17/12/2020 13:13:53 1 1
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we joined as the sick man of Europe, we leave with an economy based on bars, house prices and financial services. Forecasts for our leaving suggest a 5-10% drop in Gdp. That's between two and three times worse than the 2007 crash with covid on top.

Only an idiot would want that
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17/12/2020 12:51:24 26 22
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Problems with goods at ports have started in run up to Christmas. Won’t get easier comes January and Britain will remember it is a little island
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17/12/2020 13:00:00 6 10
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A little island with the second largest population (market) in Europe, the fifth biggest economy in the world.
We are and always have been a world trading centre.

Stop undermining your own country with your inferiority complex and constant harping to the past when we were in the EU.
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17/12/2020 13:00:01 5 15
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Another EU Mafia deadline then

Same thing posted on another site... but put in a different way that the BBC should have put it.

The EU is issuing another threat theta we agree to 80% quota and hand over controlling UK to waters to them by Sunday.

Oh dear....
Just hope macron dies then all obstacles will disappear Removed
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17/12/2020 13:05:20 0 2
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'Wonderif' the French would cede their rights - rolls reversed?
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17/12/2020 13:05:25 1 1
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I think you'll find this is a deadline set by Boris's actions, or lack of.
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17/12/2020 13:07:08 0 1
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Oh dear.
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17/12/2020 12:52:00 51 49
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If it ever happens this is going to be the worst trade deal ever for the UK. We had the best deal as part of the EU. Leaving the EU was the worst decision possible. Now we will have years and years of higher prices. What exactly was the point of leaving? To take back control? There is also a rumour about a deal with the USA to reduce tariffs. Not a trade deal, because of the GFA. UK is finished :(
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17/12/2020 13:00:13 5 9
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The "point" in leaving is that any hope of real democracy would have effectively gone forever had we remained. If you disagree with this, then you don't understand what the EU is and how it works, it's that simple.
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17/12/2020 13:38:05 1 2
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So can you enlighten us without going into the usual "unelected, undemocratic, dictatorial" and so on name calling?
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17/12/2020 13:00:13 3 4
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it's very easy to mis-read "blocks" .
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17/12/2020 13:12:00 2 1
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Yes. I am Dyslexic and I read it as B LOCKS.
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17/12/2020 13:06:52 0 1
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What did you see ?