Brexit: Trade talks in 'a serious situation' says Boris Johnson
17/12/2020
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The PM and the EU Commission head speak again by phone, and acknowledge differences remain.
Talking rubbish.
Try not to be so bitter, you lost the arguement - you hold a minority view and are incapable of looking forward.
The rest of us will make it work in spite of the backwards looking remoaners trying to undermine your own country in favour of the protectionist, out of control beurocracy that is the EU.
Try not to be so bitter, you lost the arguement - you hold a minority view and are incapable of looking forward.
The rest of us will make it work in spite of the backwards looking remoaners trying to undermine your own country in favour of the protectionist, out of control beurocracy that is the EU.
Yes, and I feel sorry for all the remains in England, but you will be welcomed in the independent Scotland
after 4 years isn't it time you Remainers changed your record from 'how can I help ensure it fails so I can say I told you so' to 'what can I do to help make Brexit a resounding success'?
Can't wait for 2022 to see what you'll be saying given it's obviously not 'goodnight UK'. Duh.
Just believing in something isn't going to make it happen - look at all the other things you believed in, winning the referendum, winning the GE, winning the EU elections, winning the next GE, a second referendum, Economic Armageddon if we voted leave, Nissan Barcelona staying open and Sunderland closing, & the City moving to the EU not being told 'Carry on trading'
Of course BREXIT will be a disaster if we don't take a positive attitude and work hard to make BREXIT work; that applies to everything. What's done is done. I voted remain but accept that and last time i looked i lived in a democracy and will make the most of this situation and help Britain succeed. Change is never easier but we all need to pull together and if we do BREXIT will work.
A slow puncture of years duration me thinks.
Disagree, Skinnydog.
Unless you have a crystal ball, your statement that 2021 "will be goodnight UK" holds no water. I think you grossly underestimate our economy, capability and people.
Unless you have a crystal ball, your statement that 2021 "will be goodnight UK" holds no water. I think you grossly underestimate our economy, capability and people.
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
You're the second comment and must have typed this whilst the first was typing theirs, and you claim remainers are spitting blood.
Yet another brexit lie.....
Yet another brexit lie.....
Griping because it's going to almost halve our national prosperity and probably end up doing more damage to our international standing. Worst of all worlds.
I am a remainer who voted for Boris to get Brexit done - and I think he will. But the hard Brexiteers will not be happy with the outcome!
Farage spitting blood that Bojo has given in to the EUs demands
The day Johnson deliver anything at all maybe we can discuss it.
Actually, it's more likely that Johnson's failing to deliver what we said was impossible, as he's finding out.
(Don't take it too hard, the PM's often said things it turns out he didn't mean. There's an empty ditch somewhere.)
(Don't take it too hard, the PM's often said things it turns out he didn't mean. There's an empty ditch somewhere.)
So what are the benefits of Brexit?
How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
You will have your freedom and sovereignty restored. Isn't that enough?
You can ask this question again and again but not get a sensible answer......because there isn’t one.
From the 1st you have direct control of those who rule you. If you don't like them you can get rid of them by voting against them, ( if the majority agree with you).
If industries need support, we can give it to them.
If people want to move here they need a job first, or a skill we need.
We can buy produce from Africa
without outside tariffs being imposed - good for us and poorer nations.
If industries need support, we can give it to them.
If people want to move here they need a job first, or a skill we need.
We can buy produce from Africa
without outside tariffs being imposed - good for us and poorer nations.
Remainers are weird, why outsource lawmaking to a foreign entity?
Ask the people who decided to vote leave, they seem to know if you dont
after 4 years isn't it time you Remainers changed your record from 'how can I help ensure it fails so I can say I told you so' to 'what can I do to help make Brexit a resounding success'?
We have a vaccination for Covid-19 which the EU still have not approved........
The benefits will be that we can trade anywhere in the world on our terms, we don”t have to abide by EU regulations, we don’t have to answer to the ECJ, the potential benefits are enormous, our country will prosper and so will our citizens. Have some faith in our country and our businesses, I own a small business and know I will benefit.
150,000 uk citizens have had their first covid19 vaccination, only possible because we have left the eu.
The transport of live animals for slaughter is going to be banned, it is still allowed in the eu.
58 trade deals, £198 billion of trade, signed sealed and delivered.
Anna Soubry, Dominic Grieve, Jon Bercow, Jo Swinson, Chukka Umunna voted out.
And that daft bloke with the megaphone has shut up.
The transport of live animals for slaughter is going to be banned, it is still allowed in the eu.
58 trade deals, £198 billion of trade, signed sealed and delivered.
Anna Soubry, Dominic Grieve, Jon Bercow, Jo Swinson, Chukka Umunna voted out.
And that daft bloke with the megaphone has shut up.
Likely not much on day 1, but gradually we will have £billions extra to spend here in the UK rather than paying for schools and roads in Portugal or Greece. We can also control (at least to a greater extent) immigration, which gradually will mean lower demand on our public services and for housing, and we can do trade deals with other countries without being tied by EU rules. The future is bright.
From 1 Jan people will stop writing meaningless statements like "What are the benefits of Brexit" as if there is still a choice as to whether Brexit will happen. That ship sadly sailed a long time ago - June 2016 - perhaps it is about time that we all moved on.
It depends on where you live if you live in London you might notice a difference and find you are worse off as for the rest of the country It can only get better.
Plus if its no deal which I would prefer, we will not have to pay the EU 39 Billion! I would rather our money was helping our country
No following ridiculous ECJ.
No funding bail outs for Med countries.
No free movement - we control who comes in.
I could go on.........
No funding bail outs for Med countries.
No free movement - we control who comes in.
I could go on.........
Well, it will be better for the rest of us if you finally stop whinging.
Ahhh last stumbling blocks. Was that not where we were a month ago? Mind you easiest deal ever so should all be done before Christmas.
Oh no remainers! A deal is on the way. That wasn’t meant to happen now was it?
And cue:
‘It’s not as good as the deal we used to have’
And cue:
‘It’s not as good as the deal we used to have’
No good would come of a No Deal Brexit.
All Johnson has is bluster.
All Johnson has is bluster.
Mind you, we’d have got a deal months ago had the remainers not spent 4 1/2 years trying to do a Trump by overturning a democratic decision.
"Easiest deal, ever", "oven-ready deal" "Get Brexit done!"... all slogans for the empty-headed!
When are you remainers going to get around to starting the Rejoin campaign. St Tony of Blair has got some time on his hands so coulda organise a petition and a march, and start legal action. Worked so well last time.
52% easy to please. No benefits and all chaos but they are still supporting all this.
"Ahhh last stumbling blocks. Was that not where we were a month ago?"
Yes. They are running out of metaphors to describe the unresolved issues.
Yes. They are running out of metaphors to describe the unresolved issues.
Better get a move on then EU!
31/12/20 No Deal Brexit
14 days to go
??????
31/12/20 No Deal Brexit
14 days to go
??????
Good to see that, after approval by the EMA, all 27 EU countries will start anti-Covid jabs on 27th December.
Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?
Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?
Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
You will realize that we could do that even without Brexit. In that sense, it has nothing to do with Brexit. It's consequential.
Quite right ... not one of the 27 triggered its 'right' to stand out from the crowd. So the EU wasted weeks and many lives will be lost simply to imply unity exists in the EU.
If we couldn't do it if we were in the EU, then we would have had to wait 'til the end of the transition period....the fact is that approval was done according to EU regs. Amazing the lengths some people will go to to salvage their lies.
And once we leave we become a third country and will not have access to the EMA. During the Brexit debate the leavers promised that drug regulations would remain the same .... I work in this area and it's catastrophic for UK companies - most are now moving manufacturing, storage and release activities to EU.
In what way did UK approval have anything to do with Brexit? If RealityCheck is going to say it does they need supporting facts.
And how is it good that the Done thing delays people getting a vaccine? Putting ideology ahead of citizens?
And how is it good that the Done thing delays people getting a vaccine? Putting ideology ahead of citizens?
As the EMA is based in UK maybe you should ask them:
European Medicines Agency
30 Churchill Place
Canary Wharf
London E14 5EU
United Kingdom
Telephone +44 (0)20 3660 6000
Send a question via our website www.ema.europa.eu/contact
European Medicines Agency
30 Churchill Place
Canary Wharf
London E14 5EU
United Kingdom
Telephone +44 (0)20 3660 6000
Send a question via our website www.ema.europa.eu/contact
Boris now caving in right left and centre, but he will still announce what's left as a truimph!
Oh dear hear we go again.......
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
Truth hurting?
Get on with it! ??
Ps A deal will benefit everyone concerned so lets hope it does get concluded asap..
Ps A deal will benefit everyone concerned so lets hope it does get concluded asap..
Earlier, Michael Gove said the UK government would do "everything to secure a deal" with the EU.
Yes, they will sell the UK down the river to save their skins. Just like they did with the oven ready deal.
No way will they go no deal, at any cost.
Yes, they will sell the UK down the river to save their skins. Just like they did with the oven ready deal.
No way will they go no deal, at any cost.
We had a great deal within the EU thanks to Thatcher. Now all we will have is restricted access and long queues into Europe for our truckers, businesses and holiday makers. What is so good about Brexit ??
There isn't one big enough for the EU
More people comment on here than the Express has got readers.
It's just the BBC seeking validation for their crooked journalism.
and the remainer rants repetitive and no longer backed up with links or facts, as their claims and predictions are, one by one, shown to be lies and fancies.
It's a popular topic and gets way more hits than other HYS comment sections.
Dont worry, it's not a subversive plot by the BBC.
Dont worry, it's not a subversive plot by the BBC.
and all the same old comments :-(
Is your name Gypsy Rose Lee is your crystal ball foggy?
Because..! What do you expect?
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
I presume that the last stumbling block is the EU itself
Not only is the EU stupid, it's unaccountable. Where's all the fuss about hedwig vonderhosen forgetting to pre-order the vaccine from pfizer. Zip, nada, nothing.
Notice the change of mood music...?
Now it's the EU saying progress is being made. but the UK being rather less optimistic.
Boris has stayed strong and should be given credit for this
Now it's the EU saying progress is being made. but the UK being rather less optimistic.
Boris has stayed strong and should be given credit for this
Boris is the weakest PM for many years. Strong? only at telling lies and avoiding questions and accountability.
So what are the benefits of Brexit?
How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
Brown trouser time for Barnier.
I don’t think so, all the begging is coming from this side of the channel, or why would Johnson beg the EU to let him speak to Macron and Merkel.
Brown trouser time for EU producers faced with a global level playing field in the 5th largest global economy
Barnier has the support of the EU27. BJ tried to throw a spanner in the works by trying to go around him and speak to Macron/Merkel, completely ignoring the heads of state of the 25 other EU members. But then, diplomacy was never BJ's strong point. It's also the action of somebody in a losing position: if you cannot get what you want from your opponent, try and go around him. Didn't work, good.
Problems with goods at ports have started in run up to Christmas. Won’t get easier comes January and Britain will remember it is a little island
Oh we are just a little island ... worthless and horrible.
Yet we received more inward investment than any other nation in the world in 2019. All that money invested in a little worthless horrible place ... real money ... real jobs ... and all for the UK.
Yet we received more inward investment than any other nation in the world in 2019. All that money invested in a little worthless horrible place ... real money ... real jobs ... and all for the UK.
A little island with the second largest population (market) in Europe, the fifth biggest economy in the world.
We are and always have been a world trading centre.
Stop undermining your own country with your inferiority complex and constant harping to the past when we were in the EU.
We are and always have been a world trading centre.
Stop undermining your own country with your inferiority complex and constant harping to the past when we were in the EU.
Why would French ports want to delay Thier fresh produce which they won't get paid for if rotten.
in case you haven't noticed, most of Europe is locked-down thanks to covid, you think that has no effect?
France's Emmanuel Macron has tested positive for Covid-19, forcing several European leaders to self-isolate after coming into contact with him.....If we can keep this 'virus' away from negotiations we have some hope of a deal. A deal in in the best interests of everyone.
And his wife is in the at risk elderly cohort, so it's a personal dilemma as well as a potential tragedy for the whole of Europe.
Wrong, the UK is negotiating with France and Germany...that is the EU.
Nothing quite likea bit of xenophobia , warms the cockles of your heart. Although I believe Macron speaks very highly of you
Looks like the rants from the EU flag wavers about BJ only wanting a no deal are lies ... as are most things they will state in the next 10,000 anti Brexit rants.
Copy and paste and multiple screen names abound ...
Copy and paste and multiple screen names abound ...
Please prove the statement made in the final paragraph of your rant. You obviously have nothing positive to post and therefor feel compelled to resort to insults. You won please engage with us and show us, seeing as Brexit is so good, 5 positives that will improve the lot of the average citizen. I await with interest.
Yep, back in the UKIP day, dissenting left wing voices were rare on this forum. Then about 2 years ago, suddenly there appeared to be a mass invasion by the left - in the run up to the last election it was clear that a left wing boiler room was in operation - probably momentum.
Good to see that, after approval by the EMA, all 27 EU countries will start anti-Covid jabs on 27th December.
Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?
Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?
Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
you do realise that is what he said but none of the 27 did
Uncetainty, tariffs, delays, higher prices and fish. Tangible benefits of Brexit.
Why do you think prices will go up in the medium to long term?
Prices went through the roof for food when we joined the EU due mainly to their protectionist policies , particularly the CAP.
Prices went through the roof for food when we joined the EU due mainly to their protectionist policies , particularly the CAP.
If food prices go up from abroad people buy less from them, and buy more home produced produce.
Uncertainty is temporary. It will go. Tariffs? Tariffs exist now (EC ones on 3rd countries). Look around your house. How many things do you see "made in China"?. China trades on WTO with EC.
If you want EU Myths busted, try the Socialist Worker
https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/42434/Six+myths+about+the+European+Union
https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/42434/Six+myths+about+the+European+Union
Why would fish be more expensive exactly?
Tangible benefits of remaining..giving away your fishing rights, being told what to do by unelected people and being subservient to France & Germany...no thanks
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
Better get a move on then EU!
31/12/20 No Deal Brexit
14 days to go
??????
31/12/20 No Deal Brexit
14 days to go
??????
Spam, like any other prepared meat, will attract a tariff in the event of no trade agreement. But meat that's unfit for human consumption doesn't, so perhaps Spam will be OK.
If it ever happens this is going to be the worst trade deal ever for the UK. We had the best deal as part of the EU. Leaving the EU was the worst decision possible. Now we will have years and years of higher prices. What exactly was the point of leaving? To take back control? There is also a rumour about a deal with the USA to reduce tariffs. Not a trade deal, because of the GFA. UK is finished :(
You's better join the very, very long queue of people who have been predicting our imminent demise for the past 300 years!
Cheer up !
Are you that confident that the UK is so weak we need to hang onto the EU apron strings to survive.
Do you have no faith in the UK business sector to progress and prosper in the long term?
Are you that confident that the UK is so weak we need to hang onto the EU apron strings to survive.
Do you have no faith in the UK business sector to progress and prosper in the long term?
The "point" in leaving is that any hope of real democracy would have effectively gone forever had we remained. If you disagree with this, then you don't understand what the EU is and how it works, it's that simple.
You're the one talking garbage - when did you become a spokesman for the world? I would imagine that S America, SE Asia and Africa, with their own non-political trade blocs, are thanking their lucky stars after seeing how badly this has worked out for Europe - hopefully they will learn from our mistakes.
But anyone without skin in the came can come to a flippant conclusion. What matters is that WE control OUR destiny. Not the opinion of someone in another country armed with an "opinion". Other people perhaps don't live with out outlook, history or prospects. I know a fair few people who look at the UK with envy.
So what are the benefits of Brexit?
How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
How will i be better off on Jan 1st????
In what ways? It's all well and good using empty words and slogans, but how about some detail?
What freedom had i lost, what will this freedom allow me to do that i couldn't in the EU?
I am guessing there will be no reply as you dont have an answer
I am guessing there will be no reply as you dont have an answer
So I am free to travel and trade and live in Europe without a visa and for free? Awesome!
That's a lie though, isn't it. We were always sovereign and free. We have now lost our freedom of movement in the EU. That is significant and will have very tangible disadvantages.
You obviously don't understand the meaning of neither Greenbob.
I already had freedom (which we are about to lose some of) and I have not noticed any downside of working together within the EU - If you think minor changes in'sovereignty' is important enough to be ruled by clowns, then be careful what you wish for.
No it really isn't. The promise was more wealth and general prosperity.
Sovereignty wont give the jobs back to Bridgend. Sovereignty wont feed people.
It is all bull, please don't pretend otherwise.
Sovereignty wont give the jobs back to Bridgend. Sovereignty wont feed people.
It is all bull, please don't pretend otherwise.
Taking away freedom of movement is, of course, less freedom.
Don't need them, we already had them. Crass use of 'freedom' when there are Syrians living in tents in Lebanon and journalists arrested for doing their job. Two examples, of many, of having true freedom restricted when one of the leaver pillars of anti-EU rhetoric was the Freedom of Movement that protected yours. Enjoy your version of freedom. You can choose not to go outside your postcode area.
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
The European Parliament will naturally want to scrutinise the deal carefully...before getting out its rubber stamp!
Hahaha you are so right lol
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
Don't you love the expression 'last stumbling blocks' when we have been stumbling for the last four years. Lets see if we can get a hit record to number one in the charts called "All I want for Christmas is a Deal"
Boris is just looking to pass the blame
Brexit is a disaster - 2021 will be goodnight UK
Brexit is a disaster - 2021 will be goodnight UK
Talking rubbish.
Try not to be so bitter, you lost the arguement - you hold a minority view and are incapable of looking forward.
The rest of us will make it work in spite of the backwards looking remoaners trying to undermine your own country in favour of the protectionist, out of control beurocracy that is the EU.
Try not to be so bitter, you lost the arguement - you hold a minority view and are incapable of looking forward.
The rest of us will make it work in spite of the backwards looking remoaners trying to undermine your own country in favour of the protectionist, out of control beurocracy that is the EU.
You say it's a minority view, but we can't really know that, since the last national count was made in 2016. Maybe we should have another one?
Dream on!
About this "oven ready" deal he had .....
with respect , as a so-called remoaner, I will continue with all my efforts to both help people and make this country as good as it can be - as I do every day
Please start studying economics at a basic level and you might start to see the light.
That reads like blind hope attempting to overcome reality.
The argument is still very much alive and will be for some time to come. (how about that for backwards looking) you will have to make it work because remain voters will look after themselves. You can buy British all you want but I avoid it wherever possible. As for 'out of control beurocracy' you might want to remember the case of a duck house related to an expenses scandal. UK gravy train.
Brilliant , time to go and wrap yourself in a union jack and give a hearty rendition of rule britania. . Accuse someone of talking rubbish then type a load of tosh.
Talking rubbish.
Try not to be so absurd, diminishing every comment to " naaah naah naah, we won, therefore your argument is invalid".
The rest of us, and like you, I am the personal representative of 11.4 million voters, would prefer to let the adults talk but "nerr nerr nerr you've got new shoes you've got new shoes you've got new shoes you smell" is what we see from your uncouth bilge. Shush.
Try not to be so absurd, diminishing every comment to " naaah naah naah, we won, therefore your argument is invalid".
The rest of us, and like you, I am the personal representative of 11.4 million voters, would prefer to let the adults talk but "nerr nerr nerr you've got new shoes you've got new shoes you've got new shoes you smell" is what we see from your uncouth bilge. Shush.
We need only look at the thumbs up or down votes against pro-EU or Brexiter comments to see that Brexiters are now in a rapidly diminishing minority... one set to diminish ever more rapidly after Jan 1st 2021...
A sneering, snarky, unintelligent snipe - just add some lies and you have an argument for Brexit. You won the referendum with 37% of the vote, but as we now see, you lost the argument. Get over it.
just wishing for success won't achieve anything; start with removing the clown & useless cabinet. Replace with competent trustworthy people who are'nt corrupt then see what can be done.
It’s brexiters that are backwards looking. They voted leave to pursue a fiction of a glorious Britannia that hasn’t existed for over 100 years. And the numbers that voted to leave were such a slim majority it was not a decisive decision.
https://europa.eu/european-union/index_en
If, after 40+ years of membership, this is your honest understanding of the club you belonged to, I have no choice but to feel sorry for you...
If, after 40+ years of membership, this is your honest understanding of the club you belonged to, I have no choice but to feel sorry for you...
"The rest of us will make it work in spite of the backwards looking remoaners trying to undermine your own country in favour of the protectionist, out of control beurocracy that is the EU."
You do talk a lot of rubbish, it was the brexiteers who voted leave because they believed the nonsense about 'taking back control' and other three word slogan lies.
You do talk a lot of rubbish, it was the brexiteers who voted leave because they believed the nonsense about 'taking back control' and other three word slogan lies.
Unlike British corrupt bureaucracy where Tory Mps give million pound contracts to their clueless friends and neighbours. Hey ,much better!
Think you will find the leave vote has undermined the country, good luck getting our home grown lazy and feckless to take on the work we have had to import employees to do for us.
How is it an out of control beurocracy?? Guess there'll be no beurocratic red tape with a "sovereign" government eh? ???????
How will you make it work? Are you in a position whereby you will be doing big business deals, jetting round the world doing lucrative trade? Or are you like the rest of us, reliant on others to get contracts and provide jobs. Cheering from the touch line doesn't work in these situations.
No time for anyone who takes joy or satisfaction in the obvious distress this debacle is causing to people who feel strongly on both sides of the debate. It's Christmas with Covid, please curb the vitriol in the next few thousand posts!
You don't really believe that its going to happen, do you?
Every Brexit related hys (I dread to think how many of those there have been) has contained an exchange of vitriolic insults. Both sides are firmly entrenched in their positions and consider that their opponents are idiots.
No doubt large numbers of comments will have been made a hundred times before.
Every Brexit related hys (I dread to think how many of those there have been) has contained an exchange of vitriolic insults. Both sides are firmly entrenched in their positions and consider that their opponents are idiots.
No doubt large numbers of comments will have been made a hundred times before.
Moneys on us having the almost the same relationship we had with the EU, but with more tariffs, less negotiating power and no freedom of movement. Brexiteers dont realise we have left the EU in all but name. Don't for one minute think that the largest trading block has to bow down to the UK. We need their trade, thus we will have to adhere to their rules, but now we dont have a voice at the table
But many Breiters on HYS have been shouting that they understood exactly what the voted for in 2016 and they voted for a No Deal Brexit with all ties to the EU cut. Now which is it my boy?
I predict nobody will like the deal.
Remainers: This is worse than what we had!
Leavers: This is Brexit In Name Only (BRINO)!
Remainers: This is worse than what we had!
Leavers: This is Brexit In Name Only (BRINO)!
Remainers will be mightily relieved that there's a deal . And you're spot on it won't be as good as what we used to have .
Its a deal on Whisky. If tariffs are removed its good for the Whisky industry.
Other than that no deal is currently being negotiated, only the possibility of said negotiations.
Your reactionary attitude to anything you read is to misinterpret, over simplify and then accuse remainers of being wrong based on said reaction.
And everyday you are shown to be wrong.
Other than that no deal is currently being negotiated, only the possibility of said negotiations.
Your reactionary attitude to anything you read is to misinterpret, over simplify and then accuse remainers of being wrong based on said reaction.
And everyday you are shown to be wrong.
Can't wait to see it..... If and when it arrives - Clearly it is going to be better for us than the last deal we had otherwise why would we have left in the first place....
Well it won’t be as good as the deal we had. That’s the truth.
correct
We actually want a deal since it is likely the only way that we have a glimmer of hope in this sorry mess. Its the rabid Brexiters with their "no deal is better than a bad deal", "WTO will be fine". It will also be Brexiters that stand in the way because there is no doubt Boris's merry band are busy capitulating as grim reality sets in.
Well it's true, it won't be.
NO. Remainers were told there would be a deal, just like you were! Not sure how suddenly just because we manage to get a deal makes us better off out of the EU though. Thats just one small part of the equation
Can you give an example of how membership of the EU adversely affected you on a personal level?
If it ever happens this is going to be the worst trade deal ever for the UK. We had the best deal as part of the EU. Leaving the EU was the worst decision possible. Now we will have years and years of higher prices. What exactly was the point of leaving? To take back control? There is also a rumour about a deal with the USA to reduce tariffs. Not a trade deal, because of the GFA. UK is finished :(
Bottom line of how affluent a country is, is how hard it's population is prepared to work. Japan, with no natural resources, was the world's 2nd biggest economy in the 80s - this was simply down to the attitudes of it's citizens and effective worker/employer relations.
Biggest stumping block, Johnson and the ERG
You mean they won't roll over like a labour leader would ?
It wasn't the 40 or so members of the ERG that scuppered May's deal it was a about 300 Labour and Lib Dem MPs. Fortunately the Lib Dems are no longer relevant and I can;t see Labour voting down the choice between this, whatever it is is and no deal
Without them the EU would walk all over us.....but then you'd no doubt be happy to surrender.
I think youl find it was the remainers who tried to stop it at every turn .. stop lying
The ERG are too small to scupper anything now. If Labour vote for the deal (Which they probably will) there is nothing the ERG can do.
Biggest stumbling block, EU inflexibility and beaurocracy.
I don't agree. I think the biggest stumbling block is Macron. He can smell English blood!
Nobody's going to vote in Parliament for a deal because there isn't going to be one
No deal is not going to happy. It's all a Boris bluff. A bunch of Eton chancers thinking they're clever by trying to make believe that the UK will walk away with no deal.
Boris is dumb, but not so dumb as to actually follow through on no deal.
You watch, a deal will be done.
Boris is dumb, but not so dumb as to actually follow through on no deal.
You watch, a deal will be done.
Yep, a deal will be done. But it will be solate that we will have to go into WTO rules for a few months and then onto new ones. As if it wasn't confusing enough...
Because without a deal the EU unravels even quicker.
It's like they've taken their tactics from "Negotiating tactics for 5 yr olds"
They just don't realise how dumb it is to try and bluff when the other party can see exactly what cards you holding.
Holding out to the very last minute is not fooling anyone except a few children in the ERG.
Oh and crippling the country while they're at it.
They just don't realise how dumb it is to try and bluff when the other party can see exactly what cards you holding.
Holding out to the very last minute is not fooling anyone except a few children in the ERG.
Oh and crippling the country while they're at it.
The EU are hinting at concessions, so it is possible, of course no HYS on that article, I wonder why not? ;-)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55297468
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55297468
Yes, he'll probably come back waving some flimsy scrap of paper, claiming it's the "best deal ever". And his dimwitted followers will fall for his lies yet again.
Boris will do whatever is in the best interests of Boris.
If he's been told 'no deal' is disastrous for his career he will sign us up to a bad deal spun as the 'Best deal ever! Phwaor!'... and of course the plebs will buy it.
If he's been told 'no deal' is disastrous for his career he will sign us up to a bad deal spun as the 'Best deal ever! Phwaor!'... and of course the plebs will buy it.
It must be wonderful to be so much wiser and morally superior to all those people in the government. Why don't you stand for office?
It's not a trade deal - it's a measure of how big the sanctions will be. The UK is the only nation to ever negotiate the raising of trade barriers. Mindless, pointless, and the problems will be endless.
This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
The UK will be in a better position with No Deal. It’s only the scaremongers and eu luvvies that don’t want to agree with the facts
Cheer up ! I know Covid has got a lot of people to the edge of despair - but -
Are you that confident that the UK is so weak we need to hang onto the EU apron strings to survive.
Do you have no faith in the UK business sector to progress and prosper in the long term?
Are you that confident that the UK is so weak we need to hang onto the EU apron strings to survive.
Do you have no faith in the UK business sector to progress and prosper in the long term?
Boris is just looking to pass the blame
Brexit is a disaster - 2021 will be goodnight UK
Brexit is a disaster - 2021 will be goodnight UK
Remainers spitting blood as Johnson delivers what they said was impossible
Neither side can afford a no deal outcome. It was always a game of brinkmanship and who blinks first. EU playing a game that it was touch and go because they don't want all the other EU countries to ask for concessions.
The EU is not as desperate as us for a deal (at any cost). You can't leave a club and expect to retain all the benefits, without contributing and adhering to the rules of the club.
Boris will get a trash deal and claim it's the best deal ever. He knows no deal would be political and economic suicide.
Remember the last minute 'oven ready' ready that breaks up the UK by putting a trade border between N. Ireland and GB? You know, the one he then wanted to break international law to get out of
Remember the last minute 'oven ready' ready that breaks up the UK by putting a trade border between N. Ireland and GB? You know, the one he then wanted to break international law to get out of
Unfortunately more factions in the EU and quite a few in the UK stand to gain significantly from a no deal outcome. That it exactly what it making this process difficult. If everybody gained, it would be easy!
Both sides can afford a no deal outcome - the UK won't go bankrupt overnight.
However, the UK has more to lose proportionally than the EU, so proportionally we will be worse off on average.
So by your reckoning we will have a deal by the 1st? I am not so sure.
However, the UK has more to lose proportionally than the EU, so proportionally we will be worse off on average.
So by your reckoning we will have a deal by the 1st? I am not so sure.
Yes, but Spaffer Johnson gambled on having his newly relected mentor back in the White House right about now. He lost. The UK is now in a much weaker position going into the final talks.
Johnson exudes faux positivity, but he is just a gambler and a chancer. So many of the faux positivity cult seem to confuse their reckless gambling nature for being positive. It is not.
Johnson exudes faux positivity, but he is just a gambler and a chancer. So many of the faux positivity cult seem to confuse their reckless gambling nature for being positive. It is not.
Most wars start with that sort of thinking too.
Why can't the eu afford nobdeal
They ONLY import and export less than 10% of their total imports and exports
Opps I forget you think the uk buys 100% of goods produced in eu and sells 100% of their needs - what a blinkered dope
They ONLY import and export less than 10% of their total imports and exports
Opps I forget you think the uk buys 100% of goods produced in eu and sells 100% of their needs - what a blinkered dope
Just a guess but I suspect the combined 27 countries need UK somewhat less than UK needs them.
They will watch, though, and IF the UK succeeds the EU may change. Otherwise, probably not. So in reality the Leave vote was UK volunteering to become an economic survival test case. Sink or swim.
But that's Project Fear talk.
They will watch, though, and IF the UK succeeds the EU may change. Otherwise, probably not. So in reality the Leave vote was UK volunteering to become an economic survival test case. Sink or swim.
But that's Project Fear talk.
I WISH you were correct ...
The EU would like a deal, it's better for them, as well ... Problem, though .....
Can they TRUST BoZo the clown & his misgovernment of fools & liars to keep their word?
The EU would like a deal, it's better for them, as well ... Problem, though .....
Can they TRUST BoZo the clown & his misgovernment of fools & liars to keep their word?
Good to see that, after approval by the EMA, all 27 EU countries will start anti-Covid jabs on 27th December.
Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?
Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?
Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
Don't you love the expression 'last stumbling blocks' when we have been stumbling for the last four years. Lets see if we can get a hit record to number one in the charts called "All I want for Christmas is a Deal"
I cannot find anything on the BBC about the sad fact that UNICEF is stepping in the help feed UK children for the first time, or the fact that tax dodging tory millionaire Jacob Rees- Mogg has said they should be ashamed for doing this!! He should be ashamed along with all his party for their policies that have led to a charity normally associated with the 3rd world having to give aid to the UK
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When Barnier talks about 'stumbling blockheads' I think he's talking about the UK government.
Don't give up the day job, buddy.
Or could he be referring to you?
No s**** Sherlock, and when the UK talks of Sovereignty they are talking about Sovereignty
No, he is talking about Remainers who cannot accept the result of a vote.
That's it. You support the EU against the UK.
Thanks
Thanks
Boris Johnson must resign now
It means UK are NOT agreeing to what he demands.In other words "do as i say"
Biggest stumping block, Johnson and the ERG
I think it means that without them we would not have a purely ideological position but would probably consider with care the financial and commercial situation of a deal/no deal.
Wouldn't have to. They'd never have been dumb enough to give the public a vote on it . Unlike that Eton twerp Cameron who sold the country down the river in exchange for votes in a general election
If by roll over you mean put the interests of the country first then yes.
Johnson is thick as mince with no eye for detail, and ERG couldn't give monkeys about anything but tax-havens (excess of) and financial transparency (absence of), both of which the EU were threatening.
And you miss the point that Corbyn was a Leaver-of-conscience, while Boris was a Leaver-of-convenience (hence current BRINO approach). You don't know where Labour would have gone with it
And you miss the point that Corbyn was a Leaver-of-conscience, while Boris was a Leaver-of-convenience (hence current BRINO approach). You don't know where Labour would have gone with it
Oh, did Mrs Thatcher roll-over when she took us into the EU. Or do you think, just possibly that she spouted all the anti-Europe nonsense to keep her Daily Mail reading constituency on-side, then got on with doing what she knew to be best for the country?
"You mean they won't roll over like a labour leader would ?"
He is folding like a deckchair you clapped out clowns.
A border down the Irish Sea - and - unbelievably - between Kent and the rest of the UK.
Every single promise broken, and STILL you grovel.
Any rubbish from any old dim lightbulb toff will do you, just so long as he tells you its OK to blame Pakistan.
Contemptible
He is folding like a deckchair you clapped out clowns.
A border down the Irish Sea - and - unbelievably - between Kent and the rest of the UK.
Every single promise broken, and STILL you grovel.
Any rubbish from any old dim lightbulb toff will do you, just so long as he tells you its OK to blame Pakistan.
Contemptible
They have already rolled over and are giggling like demented babies. Why have we given up our right to work and study in Europe? Why have we given up our access to criminal databases? Why have we landed our people with taxes on goods? Why have we lumbered our companies with mounds of paperwork? etc. etc.
If we had a Labour government we wouldn't be in this pile of S...e
Labour offered the public a say in the future relationship with Europe. The Tories said no say for you lot, we can handle this...
Lets hope they dont! However Labour never had any intention of honouring the result of the referendum and Sir Keir Starmer attempted to twart Brexit right from the start.
Since when has the Tory inability to compromise actually been more than a pensioner-pleaser?
It has proven utterly useless through the years in dealing with a diverse number of problems, everything from the Troubles in Ireland to Scottish separatism to high crime rates.
It has proven utterly useless through the years in dealing with a diverse number of problems, everything from the Troubles in Ireland to Scottish separatism to high crime rates.
Just imagine if Corbin had been negotiating...God save us !
Uncetainty, tariffs, delays, higher prices and fish. Tangible benefits of Brexit.
and don't forget the EU required us to introduce VAT so say thank you to them for that as well
The EU CAP had very little to do with the rapid rise of food prices in 73-74 (see https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/6339175.pdf)
"Prices went through the roof for food when we joined the EU "
Try not to make things up
Try not to make things up
If you take a walk around supermarket you will already notice price changes. Simple economics is the reason which most Brexiteers do not understand in first place. Look at what we import and who does work for a lot of farming exports.
Possibly because even the clowns in government accept that this will be the case
EU Myth Buster probably wasn't even a glimmer in his daddies eye when we joined the EEC. Note, EEC, European Econonmic Community, NOT European Union, completely different institution. Which is what you remoaners try to keep quiet about, the stealthy way the whole shebang changed to a political union. Would I trust the EU, never in a millio years, the whole thing is built on deceit!!
Tariffs will ultimately be passed on to the end user, otherwise all companies along a value chain will go bankrupt. Like VAT.
As ever you are missing the points
1) we got a REBATE on the CAP (Maggie)
2) the CAP is actually a food subsidy, so taxpayers could subsidise non-taxpayers food for them. That will end, and there is no evidence that farming will suddenly become cheaper
1) we got a REBATE on the CAP (Maggie)
2) the CAP is actually a food subsidy, so taxpayers could subsidise non-taxpayers food for them. That will end, and there is no evidence that farming will suddenly become cheaper
CAP is maybe the biggest and most intractable problems with the whole set up .....brings the French farmers in to play, rarely a good thing .........
Anyone who is still under the illusion that WTO terms are a good place to be, you do realise that you have to follow THEIR rules to participate, you have no say in them, no sovereignty. You DO know that, don't you??
Quite wrong. The UK gains a seat on the WTO on leaving the EU.
We already use WTO rules with other countries.....keep up!
What nonsense............
You do realies that in the EU we trade with a large number of countries around the world WTO? Including our largest customer, the US, who are now confident a trade deal can be signed - 40 years in the EU and no US trade deal!!!
In any case, the WTO has no enforcement mechanism which was confirmed the other day on BBC News in an interview with its former vice president. WTO allows countries to make their own arrangements and the so called tariffs are nothing but maximum amounts - nothing to stop the UK and EU agreeing to zero tariffs even under WTO.
you do know that WTO only apply until you strike a trade deal with whoever your trading with, something we could'nt do inside the EU.
Yes, but we don't hand the WTO the keys to our house, the keys to our car and control of our bank account.
False equivalence argument. The difference is that the WTO is just a set of baseline rules, the EU's comes with too many onerous demands.
Games Workshop is worth more to GDP than Brexit fishing. Why don’t we commission to make us some miniatures then we can all pretend to play at being Navy commanders.
The only reason that fishing is not a huge contributor to our GDP is because the EU take most of our fish......or has that fact passed you by?
For the record, I'm not a Brexiteer....
I saw that post on Reddit too, and it was a false comparison.
They were comparing GW's market capitalisation to 1 years revenue from the British fishing industry.
I saw that post on Reddit too, and it was a false comparison.
They were comparing GW's market capitalisation to 1 years revenue from the British fishing industry.
Brexit bonus...a box of space marines for all. When we all have to buy the expensive paints it will cover furlough instantly
because you donut, it is worth a great deal to the EU, therefore it is valuable to us because of it's 'EU market value' - are all rejoiners so dumb?
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Just think about it for 5 minutes. Does this really sound like a credible claim?
I think Warlord Games produces the best Naval Miniatures (Victory at Sea, Black Seas and Crues Seas). I live in Germany and would not like to pay costums for them. Boris, please have mercy!
Battleships you mean
thats just a flat out lie GW net income last year under 66 million. The UK's fishing and fish processing industries employ 24,000 people and contribute 1.4 billion. Dont lie tell the truth
If it ever happens this is going to be the worst trade deal ever for the UK. We had the best deal as part of the EU. Leaving the EU was the worst decision possible. Now we will have years and years of higher prices. What exactly was the point of leaving? To take back control? There is also a rumour about a deal with the USA to reduce tariffs. Not a trade deal, because of the GFA. UK is finished :(
Oh no remainers! A deal is on the way. That wasn’t meant to happen now was it?
And cue:
‘It’s not as good as the deal we used to have’
And cue:
‘It’s not as good as the deal we used to have’
Easiest stumbling blocks ever.
Oven ready.
Just like 'the leave campaign'.
Oven ready.
Just like 'the leave campaign'.
Not a bad campaign...we won. ;-) as will boris and frost...the temperature has just been turned up on the eu Turkey's.
you mean 'winners' ;-)
If 43.6% of the vote results in a Cons majority in the HoC in 2019, surely it must be the failure of Brexit Voters (52% of referendum vote) to agree following the referendum, that delayed implementing Brexit.
The problem was, Brexiteers never had a coherent plan, this was the reason for any delay. But don't let facts stop you owning the consequencies of your decision.
The problem was, Brexiteers never had a coherent plan, this was the reason for any delay. But don't let facts stop you owning the consequencies of your decision.
The ERG, DUP and Boris all voted against May's deal not once but twice (and three times for some). My memory is a bit fuzzy but I'm pretty sure they were all Brexiteers so maybe the blame for Brexit delays lies closer to home
"Mind you, we’d have got a deal months ago had the remainers not"
Take responsibility for your actions. You voted for this mess, don't blame those who voted against it. And making up fairy tales won't help.
Take responsibility for your actions. You voted for this mess, don't blame those who voted against it. And making up fairy tales won't help.
The problem all along has been that leave never defined what they wanted and there has never been a single vision of leave that the majority actually wanted. The problem is the failure to deliver cake and eat it by the leave campaign.
Blaming remoaners is childish abuse. Project leave has failed to deliver.
Blaming remoaners is childish abuse. Project leave has failed to deliver.
Since when were ERG remainers - they consistently voted to prevent progress.
Oh god "now wash your hands please" has escaped again
Yes, that's exactly the issue, not the bunch of inept clowns in charge of the deal, not the hubris of thinking the biggest market in the world would kneel to us, no, it's the remainers that are the issue. ??
"Mind you, we’d have got a deal months ago had the remainers not spent 4 1/2 years trying to do a Trump by overturning a democratic decision."
Brexiters are notably incoherent clapped out fools but this really does take the biscuit. Its not our fault you inflicted dishonest imbeciles on the rest of us. And explain that metaphor, troll. Makes no sense whatsoever
Brexiters are notably incoherent clapped out fools but this really does take the biscuit. Its not our fault you inflicted dishonest imbeciles on the rest of us. And explain that metaphor, troll. Makes no sense whatsoever
Stumbling block hhmmm-
More like the UK are staggering towards the finish line
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the prize they win is failure and economic catastrophe
More like the UK are staggering towards the finish line
&
the prize they win is failure and economic catastrophe
Is that what you actually want for your country and family prospects? How sad.
I' guess that Bojo is still desperately trying to wangle a way of making himself look like 'our' hero
Give it to johnny foreigner Bojo, wot wot
Give it to johnny foreigner Bojo, wot wot
I love watching a good car crash. Especially when the driver is pissed on his own self importance.
I do take delight in watching this crash, because it was predicted, and still they wanted it this way.
I do take delight in watching this crash, because it was predicted, and still they wanted it this way.
You do realise that the car hasn't crashed yet and if it does it might just be a bumper scratch.
What crash is that ... I don't see a crash, I see deft manoeuvring by the UK getting us out of the UK and out of the grasp of the EU for the rest of our lives.
Long live UK prosperity ...
Long live UK prosperity ...
Biggest stumping block, Johnson and the ERG
Poor attempt to re-write history. Any party with a majority (in this case with the bribed DUP) should be able to get their legislation through parliament. Unless their MPs rebel, which is what happened.
The Tories had the numbers if they all voted for May's deal there was nothing Labour could have done.
Give a xmas bresent and let the UK go into the wonderful world on WTO and no deal, We can again show what liars run our country and whom were the cause of all of that, hopefully someone will then hold them to account
4 years of sqabble, insults and lies about the EU
4 years of sqabble, insults and lies about the EU
4 years since the ref and the lies that have surfaced were from all the manufacturers that were going to leave if we voted Brexit...and then didnt leave after we did vote Brexit plus mass unemployment didnt happen, nor gdp collapse ...which world have you been inhabiting ?
Wow, a rejoiner admitting they've indulged in 4 years of insults and lies - must be worried he was on Santa's naughty list.
Phew. well done all (whatever the rolling eyes thingy is)
Emmanuel Macron has tested positive for Covid-19, forcing several European leaders to self-isolate after coming into contact with him. Macron is the epitome of toxicity and has been one of the huge 'Last stumbling blocks'. If he could be completely isolated without communication perhaps we could get a deal done.
No, he's looking after for French workers. Shame we don't have anybody looking out for the UK workforce.
Yes it's such a pity that the EU member states are 'sovereign' and 'independent' isn't it..yet I thoght you siad they were all vassal states....?
Repeating it every few minutes doesn't make your comment funny or any cleverer!
It's not a trade deal - it's a measure of how big the sanctions will be. The UK is the only nation to ever negotiate the raising of trade barriers. Mindless, pointless, and the problems will be endless.
This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
You wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bity you. If leaving the EU is such a good idea, why was membership a central plank of every UK political party's manifesto since 1983 and why has the "domino effect" of our leaving turned out to be a 10-15% jump in the popularity of the EU in every European country INCLUDING the UK?
Truth hurting?
Lets be a litle more honest Zeppe, SOME experts say so, others say not. There you go, reasoned debate, not something we get from remoaners, they who are never wrong hey lol
Hey, and who knows - these experts might actually be the first to get something right in the last 10 years.
Brown trouser time for Barnier.
Uncetainty, tariffs, delays, higher prices and fish. Tangible benefits of Brexit.
We import over 40% of our food, majority of which comes from/through EU countries. We've not been self-sufficent for food production in hundreds of years. How would you propose resolving this in 15 days time?
but like in the lead up to WWII farming and agriculture have been demolished and UK no longer produces enough food to sustain the people.
That assumes that people food tastes are very price elastic, if people want French cheese or German Sausage and do not consider Somerset Brie or English charcuterie equivalent then their costs will rise. Also a lot of UK produce is made using EU derived ingredients. Oh and if our producers which to export to keep up economies of scale they will have to pay for all of tht red tape as well
Yes, we can all eat all the home grown 'out of season' produce like tomatos/grapes/lettuce/cucumber, oh wait, we'll just all have to eat cabbage and potato as the rest don't grow here in winter, and sing songs about the war/vera lynn/spitfires/and all those bad "foreeners" I expect.
That is the issue we are not geared up to produce more home grown produce
I'm always impressed by your brazen ability to lie, Boris could take lessons from rejoiners. No matter how many times you are proven to lie, you just keep on doing it. Here is the "FULL" quote re Easiest deal". Fox was right ,"The only reason we wouldn't come to a free and open agreement is because politics gets in the way of economics," EU politics.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40667879
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40667879
"Easiest deal, ever", "oven-ready deal" "Get Brexit done!"... all slogans for the empty-headed!
Like "500k jobs lost" just for voting leave?
Voting leave is "like placing a bomb under the economy".
All rubbish lies that leavers didn't believe.
Voting leave is "like placing a bomb under the economy".
All rubbish lies that leavers didn't believe.
Take a look at every HYS for the past four years and you'll find equivalent Remain slogans being trotted out by the same people!
Yes, the empty headed Remainers always fall back on these clichés, don't they? Cartoon criticism from EU luvvies.
No. This political brick wall is all EU and trade deal would be easiest deal ever without this political Federal State Dictatorship punishment for daring to want to leave. Leaving is by far the better choice when faced with mandatory Euro, mandatory EU military, mandatory EU budget cap, mandatory ECJ, mandatory immigration, mandatory everything!
LOL slogans for the empty headed? You are repeating yourself, and so I'll repeat my reply ,sort of - you are lying and you repeatedly do so, no matter how many times I correct you, you continue to lie. Here is the FULL quote re easiest deal, as you well know Fox was right the EU politics got in the way
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How many thickies use " oven ready deal " when discussing the trade part of the deal ?
The Tories figured out some time ago that Brexity plebs can only comprehend slogans of up to three words.
This is why they communicate using lines of emoticons on Facebook.
This is why they communicate using lines of emoticons on Facebook.
I'd really hate to live in your negative world
If 52% of the voting population are empty headed you'd better start looking for a new country to live in. Why not try somewhere in the EU?
"Easiest deal, ever", "oven-ready deal" "Get Brexit done!"...all slogans misunderstood and misrepresented by the empty headed!
The 'oven ready deal' was actually the Withdrawal Agreement...even the BBC accepts that this is often misrepresented!
Brexit was done...on 31st Jan 2020!
The 'easiest deal' related to the idea that the UK should adopt a 'Canada' FTA...it was the EU that has refused this!
The 'oven ready deal' was actually the Withdrawal Agreement...even the BBC accepts that this is often misrepresented!
Brexit was done...on 31st Jan 2020!
The 'easiest deal' related to the idea that the UK should adopt a 'Canada' FTA...it was the EU that has refused this!
Hre we go again: "I am a Remainer, which makes me cleverer, better educated, and much more sophisticated than the Leave supporters".
Slogans that an ineffective Remain campaign couldn't do anything about it would seem.
You had 40 years to persuade people of the merits of the EU and in June 2016 you only managed to convince about one third of eligible voters.
Dismal performance and only yourselves to blame.
You had 40 years to persuade people of the merits of the EU and in June 2016 you only managed to convince about one third of eligible voters.
Dismal performance and only yourselves to blame.
Good to see that, after approval by the EMA, all 27 EU countries will start anti-Covid jabs on 27th December.
Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?
Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
Will the BBC now update their misleading "Reality Check" stating the UK roll out 3 weeks earlier had nothing to do with Brexit?
Yes the UK could have triggered "emergency" legislation, but the REALITY is it just isn't the "done" thing which is why NONE of the 27 have already started!
yet another remoaner who didn't read what he wrote and has to have a go at anyone who highlights an EU failure. If the 27 could have authorized the vaccine why didn't they and saved lives?
he'll be at home talkling to the Commission then
Well, he has already worked his way through all the other forms that 'UPS' there can possibly be !!!
Emmanuel Macron has tested positive for Covid-19, forcing several European leaders to self-isolate after coming into contact with him. Macron is the epitome of toxicity and has been one of the huge 'Last stumbling blocks'. If he could be completely isolated without communication perhaps we could get a deal done.
The last stumbling block before Boris falls flat on his face.
It's not a trade deal - it's a measure of how big the sanctions will be. The UK is the only nation to ever negotiate the raising of trade barriers. Mindless, pointless, and the problems will be endless.
This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
This catastrophe will resonate through the years as jobs are lost, lives are harmed and we get poorer and poorer. One day, those who promoted face a reckoning in court. The nation will remember.
Define long-term, 10 years, 50 years ? I'm more concerned about 2021 not 2031.
we joined as the sick man of Europe, we leave with an economy based on bars, house prices and financial services. Forecasts for our leaving suggest a 5-10% drop in Gdp. That's between two and three times worse than the 2007 crash with covid on top.
Only an idiot would want that
Only an idiot would want that
Another EU Mafia deadline then
Same thing posted on another site... but put in a different way that the BBC should have put it.
The EU is issuing another threat theta we agree to 80% quota and hand over controlling UK to waters to them by Sunday.
Oh dear....
Same thing posted on another site... but put in a different way that the BBC should have put it.
The EU is issuing another threat theta we agree to 80% quota and hand over controlling UK to waters to them by Sunday.
Oh dear....
'Wonderif' the French would cede their rights - rolls reversed?
I think you'll find this is a deadline set by Boris's actions, or lack of.
If it ever happens this is going to be the worst trade deal ever for the UK. We had the best deal as part of the EU. Leaving the EU was the worst decision possible. Now we will have years and years of higher prices. What exactly was the point of leaving? To take back control? There is also a rumour about a deal with the USA to reduce tariffs. Not a trade deal, because of the GFA. UK is finished :(
Brexit is a disaster - 2021 will be goodnight UK