FIA confirms longest Formula 1 season
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Formula 1's governing body the FIA confirms the calendar for the longest season in history next year.
Saudi Arabia? I guess that's "We Race As One" out of the window then...
Hamilton has enough to say about everything and is held up as a crusader so he needs to put a stop to all this.
They've raced in China since 2004. It never came in through the window.
Apart from numerous human rights violations this country murdered a journalist !
Instead of 'taking a knee' F1 should hang its head in shame.
Instead of 'taking a knee' F1 should hang its head in shame.
Russia, China, and Turkey are far more guilty of human rights abuses than Saudi. Look to them first if you want to “clean” the sport up. I don’t believe in this pursuit for moral purity anyway. F1 is an international sport and the more Saudi opens up to the modern world the faster their modernisation will come along
Two street circuits to close the calendar with! Oil money talks.
Abu Dhabi/Yas Marina is a purpose built track, not a street circuit.
You can guarantee that the season review for 2021 will not be about that list of races. Covid affected 2021 will be.
Too many races will only add to the disinterest in a sport dominate by one constructor which will ultimately kill it as a spectator sport.
Abu Dhabi, Sochi and other non-overtaking tracks should be removed, replaced with Mugello and Portimão.
Money talks and those running F1 don't take the fans complaints seriously because they believe the fans will put up with anything they do and they seem to be largely right.
Even more Sundays watching F1 will mean more comments from the wife of "have you got nothing better to do than watch cars go round and round on a piece of tarmac".
She just doesn't understand!
She just doesn't understand!
So many countries with human rights issues who shouldn't be holding world events but in the end money talks.
Hamilton needs to use his influence to stop all this.
I agree that the ‘sport washing’ that f1 facilitates for corrupt regimes is seedy but I wouldn’t be so quick to point fingers...thank goodness history is written by the victors or many of the old guard European states wud be in need of a wash! F1 is and always has been disgustingly about the money, part of its charm ????
We race as one..? Oh yes, let’s prove that by going back to the corrupt, racist, sexist, homophobic rich countries to race! The worse the human rights record the more likely F1 is to buy into it these days
We need Hamilton to put a stop to all this.
The thing about the last two races is that that's where they get most of their money. They seem to pay more money to ensure their crappy tracks stay on the callender.
Would it better if they raced in the corrupt, racist, sexist, homophobic "poor" countries? Why is the F1 comments section always populated with trolls and the self righteous?
I guess you dont watch F1 because of these very reasons then.
Also what are you doing about those things you fake outrage about ?
We know those are not your true concerns your real issue is Lewis Hamilton and the fact he has taken a stance against something he can influence. Are you upset as that exposes you & your illogical hatred !!!
Also what are you doing about those things you fake outrage about ?
We know those are not your true concerns your real issue is Lewis Hamilton and the fact he has taken a stance against something he can influence. Are you upset as that exposes you & your illogical hatred !!!
What about England? It too is corrupt, Racist, sexist homophobic and covered in blood money, where do we begin?
You really are a fool aren’t you, Shamilton doesn’t care about anything but himself and money, if he was decent then why ask MB for 40plus million in 21? Utter creep he is and it’s a pity he hadn’t been found out yet ????
Sorry your sentence seems to be incomplete let me help you there...."We closet racists and Hamilton haters need Hamilton to put a stop to all this"
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Cant see Lewis boycotting events can you? He should if he REALLY meant it. But money talks and he earns more per race than most people earn in years! If he paid his full whack in taxes he'd garner more respect
"to all this" is rather vague and I find it strange that Lewis Hamilton should be held responsible for "all this". Usually we hear how useless Lewis is as a driver and it is only the car that is good, in which case, with your miss-guided logic, Toto Wolf or the CEO of Daimler should be held responsible. The conditions you abhor existed in Europe previously. Change takes time, it's rarely enforced.
Even more Sundays watching F1 will mean more comments from the wife of "have you got nothing better to do than watch cars go round and round on a piece of tarmac".
She just doesn't understand!
She just doesn't understand!
Think there might have been a bit of sarcasm in hawkingtons post....
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Saudi Arabia? I guess that's "We Race As One" out of the window then...
I think you need to stop your obsession to be honest.
Hamilton has been an inspiration this year and has shown that this sport has been punching below its weight and can be used as a vehicle to promote good causes and challenge the hate.
I know people like you are horrified to see the hate you promote being successfully challenged so you just want those efforts to end as soon as possible but I hope Lewis has inspired other drivers to also be bold.
I know people like you are horrified to see the hate you promote being successfully challenged so you just want those efforts to end as soon as possible but I hope Lewis has inspired other drivers to also be bold.
19 other drivers are in F1 & their silence is noticeable on such issues. But you choose to single out the one driver who is trying to do something about an injustice, a wrong in this world.
Right now the us president is having people executed surely races should not be held there either?
So what you really are saying is we would like racism to continue.
Hypocrites !!!!
Right now the us president is having people executed surely races should not be held there either?
So what you really are saying is we would like racism to continue.
Hypocrites !!!!
I think you're letting your innate dislike of Lewis colour your logic.
Liberty Media negotiate with circuits/circuit owners etc.
Lewis Hamilton is a driver who has already challenged them to make ALL the countries they visit more accountable for their stance and approach to human rights. What more do you want from him? MOREOVER, what can you personally add to the debate and accomplish with the human rights issue - Stop watching F1?
Lewis Hamilton is a driver who has already challenged them to make ALL the countries they visit more accountable for their stance and approach to human rights. What more do you want from him? MOREOVER, what can you personally add to the debate and accomplish with the human rights issue - Stop watching F1?
There are so many boring tracks on the calendar that really need removing. Barcelona, Abu Dhabi and Sochi to name but a few.
It's an absolute disgrace that Mugello, Imola and Portimao have failed to retain their status despite pulling F1 out in 2020
It's an absolute disgrace that Mugello, Imola and Portimao have failed to retain their status despite pulling F1 out in 2020
Monaco should go too, a complete bore fest!
Bring back overtaking!
Bring back overtaking!
The biggest problem is the cars not the tracks. We are stuck with cars that can't follow to overtake which is the legacy of the Ferrari cheats giving the FIA the car designs to impose on the rest of the grid.
Sort the cars out and a lot of the tracks we are currently complaining about will become overtaking fests and non-stop action.
Sort the cars out and a lot of the tracks we are currently complaining about will become overtaking fests and non-stop action.
Abu Dhabi and Sochi need to go. Definitely.
Barcelona offers a good mix of different turns, designed to test all parts of an F1 car.
I completely agree that tracks like Mugello aren't considered, given their offerings this year. Those tracks were absolute hidden gems.
Barcelona offers a good mix of different turns, designed to test all parts of an F1 car.
I completely agree that tracks like Mugello aren't considered, given their offerings this year. Those tracks were absolute hidden gems.
Barcelona is a very technical track and whilst it doesn't encourage overtaking, I think it's worth keeping. Monaco will never die because it's a jolly for F1's benefactors.
Circuit Paul Ricard has produced two absolutely dreadful races since its return and needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history..... again!
Really hope Istanbul gets back on the calendar, belter of a track.
Circuit Paul Ricard has produced two absolutely dreadful races since its return and needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history..... again!
Really hope Istanbul gets back on the calendar, belter of a track.
There's still a chance for one of these - 25 April, to be confirmed. Who knows where that one might be, always assuming any of then can go ahead - 2020 has taught us not to anticipate too much!
Nice to see F1 adding tracks to the calendar in countries that don't support equal rights and a lot of other things the sport claims to support....
Some stinkers of tracks on there (Paul Ricard, Yas Marina, Sochi), no Portimao, no Mugello, no Istanbul Park, :-(
Not that it matters for me, I'm done with F1 (after 30 years), no RTL FTA, I won't be watching it anymore, not paying the Sky tax.
Not that it matters for me, I'm done with F1 (after 30 years), no RTL FTA, I won't be watching it anymore, not paying the Sky tax.
I now only watch the highlights shown some time later.
I cancelled my very expensive Sky sport earlier this year.
F1 was heading in the wrong direction when Liberty Media took over. They seem to be pushing it even further in the wrong direction. Lets face it, we watch F1 for entertainment, that's what it is to the viewing public. But it's no longer very entertaining.
I cancelled my very expensive Sky sport earlier this year.
F1 was heading in the wrong direction when Liberty Media took over. They seem to be pushing it even further in the wrong direction. Lets face it, we watch F1 for entertainment, that's what it is to the viewing public. But it's no longer very entertaining.
I enjoy watching C4 highlights, just need to make sure I don't look at any news before the qualifying that day and the race next day. Far far more enjoyable than listening to boring 'Monotone Brundle' for sure who thinks he's the dog's dinner.
23 Grands Prix?
The gap between Lewis and the rest is going to be huge...
The gap between Lewis and the rest is going to be huge...
But will he Boycott the tracks/countries with obscene human rights abuses or do only certain rights bother him?
''...lets get rid of Monaco...''
What are you smoking on, bro...!? Not gonna happen. Too much money involved.
What are you smoking on, bro...!? Not gonna happen. Too much money involved.
They'll not get rid of Monaco as it's considered one of the jewels in the F1 crown. Plus, don't forget most of the F1 drivers reside there and all the lovely tax benefits it entails.
I agree though Sochi and Abu Dhabi should go.
I agree though Sochi and Abu Dhabi should go.
Monaco isn't about racing (never has been). Its about schmoozing rich people into parting with their money.
This is bad news for F1, human rights issues in some of the countries, way too long a season, too much pressure on a teams engineers/support team/drivers, could lead to mental fatigued, physical burnout. Greed is the bottom line here.
2021 for F1, like retail, travel, hospitality is all about making back lost money from 2020. Everything is going to cost top dollar, and brexit will only increase that pain.
Mental fatigue/Physical burnout for working 9 months of the year?
Yeah, right...
Yeah, right...
Yeah, but the lord and saviour Lewis is going to solve all those human rights issues....With the budget limits, it's going to be even harder for teams to do what they thought, having two different teams to give some a break.
Yes she does, she describes it perfectly.
F1 used to be something very special. Having so many races rather takes the gloss off it. Just like any sport there is a limit to when it becomes ordinary.
What will make it more interesting is if Max, Charles, Lando, George and a few more of the young, competitive drivers find themselves in teams that have stepped up to the plate and provided competitive cars.
What will make it more interesting is if Max, Charles, Lando, George and a few more of the young, competitive drivers find themselves in teams that have stepped up to the plate and provided competitive cars.
Next year the cars are at tg
he same regs as this year I think. The new cars don't come in to play until 2022.
he same regs as this year I think. The new cars don't come in to play until 2022.
Having so many races rather takes the gloss off? What nonsense is this. Of course there should be more, especially 3-weekends in a row. Tracks with more overtaking opportunities where cars actually get to 'race' not 'train'. More pit stops, mandatory two every race. More penalties for crossing track limits. Only limit to F1 becoming 'ordinary' is races decided based on position on starting grid.
This is bad news for F1, human rights issues in some of the countries, way too long a season, too much pressure on a teams engineers/support team/drivers, could lead to mental fatigued, physical burnout. Greed is the bottom line here.
How is Brexit going to affect F1? There are only three teams based in the UK now and only two of those have factories in the UK.
BINGO
This is bad news for F1, human rights issues in some of the countries, way too long a season, too much pressure on a teams engineers/support team/drivers, could lead to mental fatigued, physical burnout. Greed is the bottom line here.
Do you know how much work the engineers put in?
It takes them a few days to go through data of cars and make sure they're working again for the next weekend.
It takes them a few days to go through data of cars and make sure they're working again for the next weekend.
It's not just the actual work, it's all the traveling, often into different time zones. Not being able to meet or go out with family and friends. Over time, the fatigue just builds up.
4 races in October!
4 in the same month! When did that last happen?
4 in the same month! When did that last happen?
Too many races will only add to the disinterest in a sport dominate by one constructor which will ultimately kill it as a spectator sport.
Try Channel 4 highlights...if you’re watching online and just want the race, skip the preamble.
F1 used to be something very special. Having so many races rather takes the gloss off it. Just like any sport there is a limit to when it becomes ordinary.
What will make it more interesting is if Max, Charles, Lando, George and a few more of the young, competitive drivers find themselves in teams that have stepped up to the plate and provided competitive cars.
What will make it more interesting is if Max, Charles, Lando, George and a few more of the young, competitive drivers find themselves in teams that have stepped up to the plate and provided competitive cars.
ICU and MGU the same but aero is open to change, floors changed so still some differences to exploit
There are 6 teams based in the UK...
Mercedes - Brackley
McLaren - Woking
Williams - Grove
Renault (Alpine) - Enstone
Racing Point (Aston Martin) - Silverstone
Red Bull - Milton Keynes
So I don't think you know what you're talking about. Brexit should have little effect.
Mercedes - Brackley
McLaren - Woking
Williams - Grove
Renault (Alpine) - Enstone
Racing Point (Aston Martin) - Silverstone
Red Bull - Milton Keynes
So I don't think you know what you're talking about. Brexit should have little effect.
Brexit makes it more difficult for talented people in the EU to come and work in the UK. And vice versa. That lack of freedom will have some impact on F1. Not massive, I agree, but it's just another problem F1 has to contend with, that it could have done without.
Exclusively live on SkyF1, because all that matters is money. Now go away you grubby freeloaders, we have removed the possibility of your RTL+R5L bodge and because of our unique arrangement with SkyF1 you can't watch a live stream from Formula1dotcom.
Sky, destroying sport in the UK and elsewhere for 30 years
Sky, destroying sport in the UK and elsewhere for 30 years
I managed to find a live stream for each of last year's races.
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The only thing keeping F1 afloat is Hamilton who draws huge numbers of fans and unfortunately Hamilton hating trolls and closet racists.
When Lewis leaves the sport, the paid Hamilton hating trolls and closet racists will disappear and many lifelong fans of F1 like myself will also stop watching the sport due to the widespread disgust at how the pundits and media have attacked Lewis for years.
When Lewis leaves the sport, the paid Hamilton hating trolls and closet racists will disappear and many lifelong fans of F1 like myself will also stop watching the sport due to the widespread disgust at how the pundits and media have attacked Lewis for years.
i`m prepared to pay a modest fee for the sort of depth of coverage that Sky provide. Less than the cost of attending a single Grand Prix as we cant at the moment.
Yep. Sky are a business, they're there to make money for their shareholders, not give stuff away. Formula 1 is a business, it's there to make money for its shareholders.
I agree it's a shame that we can't watch this sport for free, but it's hardly Sky's fault. If it weren't them, it would be someone else.
I agree it's a shame that we can't watch this sport for free, but it's hardly Sky's fault. If it weren't them, it would be someone else.
It's not Sky that's the fault.
Its the people who mistakenly think they have "one up" on the neighbors.
If it wasn't for them, then this would be on terrestrial and free.
Sky "subscribers" - you know they are gonna slap even more pay-for-view as well as your subscriptions, don't you ?!
Its the people who mistakenly think they have "one up" on the neighbors.
If it wasn't for them, then this would be on terrestrial and free.
Sky "subscribers" - you know they are gonna slap even more pay-for-view as well as your subscriptions, don't you ?!
Sky are just a symptom of the way F1 is currently funded.
I remember with fondness being able to watch F1 on the BBC, live races, no TV adverts, free to watch. I liked it better when the teams got the bulk of their income from Sponsors' advertising on their cars.
A sign of the times. Sadly.
I remember with fondness being able to watch F1 on the BBC, live races, no TV adverts, free to watch. I liked it better when the teams got the bulk of their income from Sponsors' advertising on their cars.
A sign of the times. Sadly.
On the contrary, Skysports have always improved sports coverage. Football, Darts, F1, cricket etc are far better now than the old days of BBC or ITV.
I have a Nowtv box and just dip in now and again.... Great value and entertainment.
I have a Nowtv box and just dip in now and again.... Great value and entertainment.
You could actually support sport by, you know, going to watch it live instead of just watching it on telly.
OK maybe all F1 races are out, but there's plenty other racing going on. It's more entertaining than F1, cheaper as well and they probably need the money more.
OK maybe all F1 races are out, but there's plenty other racing going on. It's more entertaining than F1, cheaper as well and they probably need the money more.
@Martin in Yorkshire, you mean masses more Sport on TV now than we could ever even have dreamed of 35 years ago, INCLUDING all GP practice sessions that were NEVER shown back then :-)
Typical yorkshireman - can someone explain to Martin that the economics of sport means that someone has to pay. This is normally either the sponsors (although the people who buy their products ultimately pay) or the people watching.
Rather than destroying sport - Sky provides the money for sport to invest and grow.
You just want to watch for free
Rather than destroying sport - Sky provides the money for sport to invest and grow.
You just want to watch for free
Not at all. Pretty much every sport Sky covers has benefited from the money paid to them. In turn fans have benefited because more get to see things they otherwise wouldn't. If you can't afford it/don't want to pay, hardly the end of the world is it? Anyway if you really want to watch something you can't get free in the UK sign-up to a VPN and watch from another country.
It seems that it is ok to have an exclusive monopoly in this country. Sky have ruined F1 coverage the same as football, cricket, rugby etc etc etc. Id rsther get the coverage direct from F1TV but its blocked. So asda and sainsbury cant merge to form a bigger store due to conpetition rules, yet sky monopolise F1, double standards.
When the international feed shows a photographer at work on the balcony of the W Yas Marina Hotel, why does Crofty think it’s appropriate to mention it and complete the sentences by placing said photographer in his 60 year old co-commentators ‘bedroom’. He ought to be reprimanded. Young and impressionable viewers struggle with his monotone shouting style. Now the commentary need a PG warning.
longest season in history will end seeing the greatest driver in history crowned GOAT ( 8 world titles)..
Unfortunately George has shown Lewis “ you don’t know how hard that was man” Hamilton for what he is. A good driver but no better or worse than a lot of the other drivers in F1.
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
You mean the greatest packaged car/team/driver of his era? Like Fangio & Senna. Big difference. Rarely more than a second between the Q3 survivors. I can think of 2 or 3 drivers who would blow VB into the weeds in 2021if they got in No44.George for starters. LH is a fantastic but lucky driver. Says so himself. Weary of heart on sleeve politics though which ought to be kept out of sport entirely.
Ah, so the finale will end up at a track that produces races like the final stage on the Tour De France - an exhibition parade from start to finish. Let's hope we get some real racing at the few tracks that allow overtaking
Mental fatigue/Physical burnout for working 9 months of the year?
Yeah, right...
Yeah, right...
Hamilton has enough to say about everything and is held up as a crusader so he needs to put a stop to all this.
no German gp then?
Lewis Hamilton earnt his drive in the best car because he is the best driver. So yes he is the goat.
Agreed, Verstappen is the best driver on the grid by far. Russell matched his performance in the Mercedes. Hamilton couldn’t outscore Button in the 3 years they were team mates! Hardly the greatest of all time.
Agreed. Its obvious why Lewis was desperate to race at AD. He didnt want Russell showing him up again. And then when he finished third he blamed Covid. Well if he wasnt well why did he rush back? Tainted his season in my view
George has shown himself to be a very talented driver. But they're all very talented drivers, and the difference between them is very small. Lewis is, I'm sure the better driver. But only just. Put them both in the same car, race 20 times. Lewis might win 11 of them.
For sure Hamilton hypes up the opposition, but if George at his current level was in the Merc full time, he wouldn't have produced the special drive in Turkey that Hamilton did to win.
That's why he's a 7 time champion, those special races he shouldn't win, but does. Germany 2018, China 2011 are a couple of other examples.
That's why he's a 7 time champion, those special races he shouldn't win, but does. Germany 2018, China 2011 are a couple of other examples.
Britain trying to reduce carbon emissions by punishing the general public, F1 flying teams around the world at record levels!
I like F1 but even I have to admit this is a stupid idea.
They need to reduce by getting rid of all the road circuits for a start.
I like F1 but even I have to admit this is a stupid idea.
They need to reduce by getting rid of all the road circuits for a start.
Agree. Not only are they polluting the planet but encouraging sports washing too. Wake up F1!
Why Yas Marina last? It’s the worst track to end the season
Money?
To be fair, it isn't the track itself, it's the car design regulations that prevent cars being able to get close to one another.
Because the result of the Championship will be known by then!
The same reason it had its “Double Point” race; money.
Great...an even longer winded season on boring tracks...more races for Mercedes to cruise home in. I guess the powers that be are trying to get Hamilton to 200 wins ASAP.
I mean are they actively trying to put people off F1? Seems like it. Bring back real racing not processions round the track
I mean are they actively trying to put people off F1? Seems like it. Bring back real racing not processions round the track
Unfortunately George has shown Lewis “ you don’t know how hard that was man” Hamilton for what he is. A good driver but no better or worse than a lot of the other drivers in F1.
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
agree about monaco- but if you encourage overtaking too much verstappen would never finish a race
I think a historic track like Monaco should have the teams competing with historic type cars. Maybe all of them in Caterhams?
Monaco should stay; it’s the centrepiece event of the calendar, the one race that marks F1 out as different. And Panis’ win shows it isn’t always a bore.
But most of the Tilke circuits, particularly those from the last ten years should go, they are drab and soulless. Istanbul Park is clearly the best he designed, and they’re not even using it.
But most of the Tilke circuits, particularly those from the last ten years should go, they are drab and soulless. Istanbul Park is clearly the best he designed, and they’re not even using it.
Bring back gravel traps....bring in some jeopardy for the drivers making mistakes.
The huge tarmac run-off areas make for drivers being able to make errors without any penalties.
The huge tarmac run-off areas make for drivers being able to make errors without any penalties.
Monaco stays - a glamourous weekend - full of tradition - Monaco will always remain died-hard F1 Fans agree
Give it up for one season and see what the viewing public say. If it is not missed (it is only there for historical reasons anyway) assign it to history.
I now only watch the highlights shown some time later.
I cancelled my very expensive Sky sport earlier this year.
F1 was heading in the wrong direction when Liberty Media took over. They seem to be pushing it even further in the wrong direction. Lets face it, we watch F1 for entertainment, that's what it is to the viewing public. But it's no longer very entertaining.
I cancelled my very expensive Sky sport earlier this year.
F1 was heading in the wrong direction when Liberty Media took over. They seem to be pushing it even further in the wrong direction. Lets face it, we watch F1 for entertainment, that's what it is to the viewing public. But it's no longer very entertaining.
With that many races the drivers can cycle through each team and we can see how much better Hamilton actually is.
If they can't stop one team being so dominant they can at least introduce some change by making the drivers drive one race in each team during the season.
With 23 races each driver can race 4 times for their own team so the champion will still be tied to the dominant team.
If they can't stop one team being so dominant they can at least introduce some change by making the drivers drive one race in each team during the season.
With 23 races each driver can race 4 times for their own team so the champion will still be tied to the dominant team.
what a ridiculous idea! in what sport does anyone go and play for all the teams/clubs through a season! Obviously you think you know more than the professionals that have tracked Hamilton from a young lad, and paid good money to have him in their car!
Yes, he couldn't win with one of the other teams, but with the exception of Max V, none of the drivers would beat him in a Merc! stop hatting!
Yes, he couldn't win with one of the other teams, but with the exception of Max V, none of the drivers would beat him in a Merc! stop hatting!
How is Brexit going to affect F1? There are only three teams based in the UK now and only two of those have factories in the UK.
23 Grands Prix?
The gap between Lewis and the rest is going to be huge...
The gap between Lewis and the rest is going to be huge...
Don't be an arse. He can't fight every battle, and on his own.
Lets face it not all the drivers were fully behind taking the knee unlike football and many other sports where all those taking part took the knee
He'll trot out the comment that he "has raised these issues, and will continue to campaign". However if he was to withdraw that would REALLY focus the mind and get World attention but he will not, claiming contractual obligations etc etc !!
Has he even confirmed himself for next year? He might go to Formula E to increase its profile, given his increasing environmental investments.
What a ridiculous comment. Why should be only his responsibility?
I assume you are a Brit. Think back to your history lessons. The sun never set on the Empire. What did the Empire do? How long has England been an independent country and when did it stop abusing the human rights of it's populace? Saudi Arabia has been a country since 1932, Bahrain since 1971. Don't you think they also deserve some time to develop culturally. Why expect Lewis to solve it? Get real
There'll be absolute radio silence in regards to those countries but he'll make sure he's all over the news criticising Western countries where he knows his paycheck is still safe and its the en vogue thing to do these days.
This is bad news for F1, human rights issues in some of the countries, way too long a season, too much pressure on a teams engineers/support team/drivers, could lead to mental fatigued, physical burnout. Greed is the bottom line here.
Mental fatigue/Physical burnout for working 9 months of the year?
Yeah, right...
Yeah, right...
Unfortunately George has shown Lewis “ you don’t know how hard that was man” Hamilton for what he is. A good driver but no better or worse than a lot of the other drivers in F1.
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
Well if you want to go down that route you will see that Hamilton had 13 dnf's. Fastest car - Hamilton - 44, button -13. Poles Lewis - 9 Button -1 out of the 3 yrs button only ahead once. That year Hamilton had lots of dnfs. So your analogy does not make lewis below if you read ALL the stats. Hamilton won more races too. So don't pick and choose stats to serve your bias view. Hamilton best driver
How long before some idiot blames Brexit for this?
About 4 minute past 8 by the looks of things.
With 23 races surely there are enough events to share the tyre exposure and get back to pure racing rather than tyre management.
Also the health and safety regimes in many of those countries is such that they can reintroduce refuelling to add another dimension and difference in the car set ups during the races.
Also the health and safety regimes in many of those countries is such that they can reintroduce refuelling to add another dimension and difference in the car set ups during the races.
I can sum up the current iteration of F1 in two words 'Making Money!' , its no longer a sport.
It could not be other. Chase Carey is a mate of Murdoch and supports Trump!
It hasn't been a sport for well over 30 years.
"making money" defines literally every big sport on the globe - football, cricket, basketball, rugby, NFL, F1, Tennis - they are all the same: run by the broadcasters. Unfortunately if they don't make money (and lots of it) then they don't exist. Simple.
"making money" defines literally every big sport on the globe - football, cricket, basketball, rugby, NFL, F1, Tennis - they are all the same: run by the broadcasters. Unfortunately if they don't make money (and lots of it) then they don't exist. Simple. So to say it's no longer a sport because of this is a bit silly.
Having a season this long isn’t such a problem for the drivers...it’s the crews I feel sorry about. Spending your year going from airport to hotel to track and back again doesn’t seem like much of a life.....they will be exhausted by the end of the season.....not that Liberty care much about that. I don’t even bother watching the highlights on Channel 4 much anymore.....
Neither do I; I now watch the 7 min F1 highlights...real shame
The drivers have already voiced concern at the increased number of races on the calendar.
I would rather do that than sit in my boring office everyday
Unfortunately George has shown Lewis “ you don’t know how hard that was man” Hamilton for what he is. A good driver but no better or worse than a lot of the other drivers in F1.
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
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Sky, destroying sport in the UK and elsewhere for 30 years
With that many races the drivers can cycle through each team and we can see how much better Hamilton actually is.
If they can't stop one team being so dominant they can at least introduce some change by making the drivers drive one race in each team during the season.
With 23 races each driver can race 4 times for their own team so the champion will still be tied to the dominant team.
If they can't stop one team being so dominant they can at least introduce some change by making the drivers drive one race in each team during the season.
With 23 races each driver can race 4 times for their own team so the champion will still be tied to the dominant team.
what a ridiculous idea! in what sport does anyone go and play for all the teams/clubs through a season! Obviously you think you know more than the professionals that have tracked Hamilton from a young lad, and paid good money to have him in their car!
Yes, he couldn't win with one of the other teams, but with the exception of Max V, none of the drivers would beat him in a Merc! stop hatting!
Yes, he couldn't win with one of the other teams, but with the exception of Max V, none of the drivers would beat him in a Merc! stop hatting!
How is Brexit going to affect F1? There are only three teams based in the UK now and only two of those have factories in the UK.
Hype over quality, cynical really.
I rather have a dozen good races than two dozen processions. On Sunday I felt really happy for Max. Then Lewis popped up "I didn't feel myself darlings" and then Toto "We were saving engines". So they were not really racing - 50 points deduction each as it was meant to be a race!
How long before some idiot blames Brexit for this?
Having a season this long isn’t such a problem for the drivers...it’s the crews I feel sorry about. Spending your year going from airport to hotel to track and back again doesn’t seem like much of a life.....they will be exhausted by the end of the season.....not that Liberty care much about that. I don’t even bother watching the highlights on Channel 4 much anymore.....
Perhaps with the increase in numbers of races, each team’s ‘reserve’ driver should drive a minimum of six races, covering three races for each of the main contracted drivers. This would give some young drivers invaluable experience and allow them to showcase their talent which has been kept in the shadows.
Well if Alonso was not allowed back there is 1 seat and if KR retired there is another seat!!! They are both past their sell by dates
I would prefer Perez or the Hulk in 1 of the seats they have
I would prefer Perez or the Hulk in 1 of the seats they have
Great idea: or maybe a 3rd car for full 'works' teams x 6 races
Too many.
Kind of takes the gloss off the "stats" too when drivers are nearly doing two seasons in one.
Kind of takes the gloss off the "stats" too when drivers are nearly doing two seasons in one.
Some decent venues (apart from Abu Dhabi...)
Unfortunately George has shown Lewis “ you don’t know how hard that was man” Hamilton for what he is. A good driver but no better or worse than a lot of the other drivers in F1.
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
Having a season this long isn’t such a problem for the drivers...it’s the crews I feel sorry about. Spending your year going from airport to hotel to track and back again doesn’t seem like much of a life.....they will be exhausted by the end of the season.....not that Liberty care much about that. I don’t even bother watching the highlights on Channel 4 much anymore.....
With a season this long, Alonso will be able to get a couple of wins, fall out with Alpine and be signed up for a new team before the year is out!
They should all drive the same cars with the same engines and running gear. At the present it a procession. Not good for the sport or the fans. A level playing field for all.
F1 isn’t a communist sport.
This is never going to happen and it never should happen. F1 is about innovation, this isn’t stock car racing.
You say it's a procession but over half the grid got on the podium this year at least once and we had 2 new winners.
Then it’s not Formula 1 anymore. The history of the sport has always been about manufacturers innovating to create a dominant car. If that doesn’t appeal to you, which it clearly doesn’t, then just go to one of the many racing series where drivers are in identical cars. So given that there are already plenty of alternatives giving you what you want, why should F1 change?
Yes, and then they should make all drivers use exactly the same tactics and driving style. Maybe swap the pit crews around as well to neutralise the effect of a skilled crew? Ooh, and, I know...let's go back to Le Mans starts! We'd probably see a few drivers killed or injured but it'd be more interesting to watch!
In case anyone is in doubt, this is sarcasm.
In case anyone is in doubt, this is sarcasm.
Britain trying to reduce carbon emissions by punishing the general public, F1 flying teams around the world at record levels!
I like F1 but even I have to admit this is a stupid idea.
They need to reduce by getting rid of all the road circuits for a start.
I like F1 but even I have to admit this is a stupid idea.
They need to reduce by getting rid of all the road circuits for a start.
The biggest problem is the cars not the tracks. We are stuck with cars that can't follow to overtake which is the legacy of the Ferrari cheats giving the FIA the car designs to impose on the rest of the grid.
Sort the cars out and a lot of the tracks we are currently complaining about will become overtaking fests and non-stop action.
Sort the cars out and a lot of the tracks we are currently complaining about will become overtaking fests and non-stop action.
It's not the cars that are the problem around Monaco, it's always been the track
I would be interested to know which tracks you are referring to here. I agree the current cars aren't conducive to exciting racing, but I don't see the changes for 2022 having a massive effect on the majority of the tracks. Most have too many sections which are only 1-line, so we will probably end up with battles / overtaking in the same places. It just may not be as manufactured.
Unfortunately George has shown Lewis “ you don’t know how hard that was man” Hamilton for what he is. A good driver but no better or worse than a lot of the other drivers in F1.
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
If George, for example, had spent the last 7 years in by far the best car in F1, would you be now calling him the GOAT?
For sure Hamilton hypes up the opposition, but if George at his current level was in the Merc full time, he wouldn't have produced the special drive in Turkey that Hamilton did to win.
That's why he's a 7 time champion, those special races he shouldn't win, but does. Germany 2018, China 2011 are a couple of other examples.
That's why he's a 7 time champion, those special races he shouldn't win, but does. Germany 2018, China 2011 are a couple of other examples.
Great start to the season apart from Monaco...
The end ruined by Herman Tilke again.
The end ruined by Herman Tilke again.
Why would you extend the season of a sport that is so boring. Doesn't make sense??
?? Why would you take the time to comment on something you clearly have no interest? Many thousands of people enjoy F1. If F1 doesn’t make sense, then no competitive sport makes sense!
I'm guessing you have not seen any of the races held this year, plenty of action.
I think you need to stop your obsession to be honest.
You mean the greatest packaged car/team/driver of his era? Like Fangio & Senna. Big difference. Rarely more than a second between the Q3 survivors. I can think of 2 or 3 drivers who would blow VB into the weeds in 2021if they got in No44.George for starters. LH is a fantastic but lucky driver. Says so himself. Weary of heart on sleeve politics though which ought to be kept out of sport entirely.
Hamilton has enough to say about everything and is held up as a crusader so he needs to put a stop to all this.
Hamilton has been an inspiration this year and has shown that this sport has been punching below its weight and can be used as a vehicle to promote good causes and challenge the hate.
I know people like you are horrified to see the hate you promote being successfully challenged so you just want those efforts to end as soon as possible but I hope Lewis has inspired other drivers to also be bold.
I know people like you are horrified to see the hate you promote being successfully challenged so you just want those efforts to end as soon as possible but I hope Lewis has inspired other drivers to also be bold.
Can anyone tell me if Hamilton has done anything to help/sponsor/train/guide young black drivers into F1?
Perhaps with the increase in numbers of races, each team’s ‘reserve’ driver should drive a minimum of six races, covering three races for each of the main contracted drivers. This would give some young drivers invaluable experience and allow them to showcase their talent which has been kept in the shadows.
With a season this long, Alonso will be able to get a couple of wins, fall out with Alpine and be signed up for a new team before the year is out!
With a season this long, Alonso will be able to get a couple of wins, fall out with Alpine and be signed up for a new team before the year is out!
What a shame we are returning to the same old tired formula with tracks that have shown to provide little overtaking and boring races.