Brexit: Hornby stops non-UK orders due to price confusion
16/12/2020 | news | business | 500
The model train maker says it's in a difficult position and has paused all international orders until January 2021.
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16/12/2020 10:36:53 40 9
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Fingers crossed Hornby survive they have made excellent toys for year.
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16/12/2020 10:49:42 46 21
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they don't make anything - they outsourced it to China, I would happpily support them if they made their toys in the UK and employed British people rather than Chinese slave labour
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16/12/2020 10:50:48 12 6
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Think they make most of their stuff in China now, so I don't care!
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16/12/2020 10:37:07 157 35
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Not sure what Hornby are moaning about you'd have thought all the emails and adverts saying "Get Prepared" should be enough.

Prepared for what seems to be next level detail for these clueless chancers in government
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16/12/2020 10:43:05 23 28
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I expect they read comments like this on HYS and act as they believe the electorate deserve.
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16/12/2020 10:49:13 18 2
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The problem is, prepared for what scenario?
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16/12/2020 10:50:21 3 33
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WTO terms are fully transparent and known to every business. They have had long enough to prepare for WTO, if it doesn't happen then they stick to their current model. How difficult is that.............
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16/12/2020 10:53:05 5 12
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The problem is both temporary congestion at ports delaying products and no confirmation yet of whether they will be a trade deal or not, meaning that they do not know whether there will be tariffs, etc. to pay on arrival in another EU country if shipping delays cause orders to arrive in January. Temporary problems that will soon be resolved.
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16/12/2020 11:59:01 8 1
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Prepared for what precisely?
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16/12/2020 12:40:22 0 12
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One would have thought that over the last 11 months they might have passed some comment on the fact that covid lock-downs have meant model railway shops aren't open as they aren't 'essential'
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16/12/2020 10:37:32 108 38
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Cue lots of excruciating rail-themed puns.

Brexit's a really bad idea, by the way.
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16/12/2020 10:43:41 73 33
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Indeed Brexit is a very bad idea, promoted some years ago by Bojo who is trying to take a back seat as he know it will come back to haunt him; and fargae who has left the UK already!
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16/12/2020 10:48:33 9 22
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But the majoroty voted for it, so it is the democratic will of the people - get over it
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16/12/2020 10:51:26 3 4
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Come on, lighten up
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16/12/2020 12:01:30 27 6
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We were railroaded into leaving the EU by leavers who had a one track mind and a model campaign. We're all on the leave train now. Full steam ahead, second class of course, calling at Recession, Debt, Doom, all-change somewhere in the Irish Sea, and terminating at platform number 10. The buffet car will be serving mixed messages. Standing room only, as we've lost our seat at the table.
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16/12/2020 10:38:02 6 11
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oh this is project fear again,what on earth does this company need to do that for until after transition,they have no clarity as well but surely trading under wto tariffs isnt that bad for their customers abroad,it just means higher prices and delivery schedules unassured,brexit cant just be all bad there has to be some good,better ask the fish what they think because our government doesnt know
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16/12/2020 10:47:55 6 0
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indeed - products made in China and only hence sales to EU subject to change not rest of world
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16/12/2020 10:49:09 3 4
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Saying "there has to be some good" really doesn't cut it.

Hornby - and other businesses - want clarity and certainty - or, at least, an idea of what the environment in which they HAVE to trade will be like.

So far, there's little information but certainly some alarming events: ports already congested, not one but 2 lorry parks at Ashford, "passports" for Kent traffic.

Not reassuring, eh?
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16/12/2020 10:39:18 80 41
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It's about time the plug was pulled on this catastrophic act of self harm - the issue of 'sovereignty' is moot in the connected world we inhabit, and our being independent is a weakness other territories will wish to exploit, not a strength with which we can operate...
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16/12/2020 10:43:13 33 8
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We can't though - the UK left the EU at the end of January
Removed
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16/12/2020 12:41:39 4 3
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Yep, we handed over sovereignty to FaceBook a while back.
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16/12/2020 14:41:40 2 4
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Don't like a democratic vote? Move to somewhere else.
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16/12/2020 16:30:00 0 0
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An individual I was chatting with recently thought that 'sovereignty' mean that we had a royal family. Yes. she is old enough to vote … but did!
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16/12/2020 10:39:20 84 9
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Good company, Hornby. It should be put in charge of the UK rail network. I am sure it would then be more reliable with better customer service.
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16/12/2020 10:47:55 61 5
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Unfortunately you wont be able to fit any customers on the trains anymore
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16/12/2020 10:46:30 7 3
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but they outsourced it to China - time to bring produuction back to UK!!
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16/12/2020 10:40:25 159 7
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Wrong kind of 'leave' on their tracks?
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16/12/2020 11:08:43 28 13
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"Breggsit on their faces?"
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16/12/2020 12:22:29 2 1
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Class.
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16/12/2020 12:24:45 5 1
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the best so far - take a bow
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16/12/2020 12:52:43 4 1
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I wish I'd said that!
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17/12/2020 13:12:26 1 1
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Haha, brilliant. Lifted my day :-)
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16/12/2020 10:42:10 34 5
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There is light at the end of the tunnel but probably a train coming the other way.
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16/12/2020 10:39:18 80 41
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It's about time the plug was pulled on this catastrophic act of self harm - the issue of 'sovereignty' is moot in the connected world we inhabit, and our being independent is a weakness other territories will wish to exploit, not a strength with which we can operate...
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16/12/2020 10:43:13 33 8
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We can't though - the UK left the EU at the end of January
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16/12/2020 10:43:20 92 7
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Makes perfect sense. This way they are not forced to fulfill orders at a loss should taxes be imposed on Jan 1st. After that date they will hopefully know exactly what they are dealing with.
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16/12/2020 10:45:50 52 36
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but only impacts on sales to EU not the rest of the world
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Bob
16/12/2020 11:57:14 4 15
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It doesn't make sense. If they ship an order on December 31st it doesn't make any difference. They won't have to pay anything different.

The recipient might, as it will take time to reach them. But that's not of a concern to the seller. That's an issue for the recipient.
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16/12/2020 12:04:32 5 11
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But why stop on the 15th December, when current tariff-free rules apply. Tariffs will not be applied retrospectively.

This doesn't make any sense.
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16/12/2020 10:43:31 52 28
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If we can't even export small scale model equipment what hope is there for the UK going forwards.

We really are being led by an Incompetent Donkey
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16/12/2020 10:49:29 16 3
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There are two temporary problems. 1) With the ports already full of containers of PPE in case of sudden need, the Christmas rush and companies stocking up to beat possible tariff changes and in case of disruption, there is congestion. 2) Shipping now could mean delays cause arrival after 31st December and tariffs may have changed then, causing problems. Better to wait until the peak has passed.
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16/12/2020 11:38:19 3 1
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It's being imported from China in the first instance........to be re exported........ It's not really a British product any more...... Maybe it's time to bring out sourced jobs back to the UK .......
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16/12/2020 12:44:55 0 2
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Yes
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16/12/2020 13:11:08 2 4
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The incompetent donkeys are the EU.
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16/12/2020 13:23:15 4 1
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I think you're being unfair to Donkeys, a hard working useful animal. Boris is definitely an ass. Which is where most his utterances originate.
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16/12/2020 10:37:32 108 38
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Cue lots of excruciating rail-themed puns.

Brexit's a really bad idea, by the way.
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16/12/2020 10:43:41 73 33
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Indeed Brexit is a very bad idea, promoted some years ago by Bojo who is trying to take a back seat as he know it will come back to haunt him; and fargae who has left the UK already!
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16/12/2020 12:43:18 9 17
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Actually, the 'bad idea' was joining in the 1st place. However, what we did join is definitely not what we have just left. It has changed out of all recognition and at no point prior to 2016 were we, the people of of the UK given any say in whetjer we wanted to go along with what is now, primarily a undemocratic political monstrosity.
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16/12/2020 13:06:15 10 1
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Yeah, strange that.... all those pro-Brexit multi-millionaires and billionaires are now moving their manufacturing/businesses abroad. Probably investing in the value of the pound tumbling (big short)
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16/12/2020 10:44:07 235 59
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More Brexit winning eh? The UK must be the only country ever to impose economic sanctions on itself.
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16/12/2020 12:18:43 43 71
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Well it's not all bad.
We get to hear this type of comment... Again...
And again...
And again...
And again...

And we've not even left yet!
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16/12/2020 12:27:50 10 10
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If only we'd been warned in 2016 that Hornby would pause international sales for a few weeks! Surely the referendum would have been cancelled
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16/12/2020 12:28:34 22 14
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Give it a rest

Last year we had an election, with 2 parties dedicated to cancelling Brexit. You had your chance to vote for them. What happened?

The new party sank without a trace, so that I can't remember what they were called. The old Liberal party lost half of its seats. That was your chance for change, you did not vote for them. So shut up and get behind the UK.
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16/12/2020 12:38:31 5 2
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Look around Europe, covid lock-downs? ;-)
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16/12/2020 22:41:44 1 0
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This is about politicians being rubbish at getting things done, it is NOT anything else. If Johnson had stuck to his original deadline this would not be happening. There are no sanctions only tariffs and these exist across the world AND in the EU which levies tariffs on non EU goods unless there is a trade agreement with the exporting country. Still time to move to the EU if you don't like it here
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16/12/2020 10:37:07 157 35
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Not sure what Hornby are moaning about you'd have thought all the emails and adverts saying "Get Prepared" should be enough.

Prepared for what seems to be next level detail for these clueless chancers in government
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16/12/2020 10:43:05 23 28
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I expect they read comments like this on HYS and act as they believe the electorate deserve.
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16/12/2020 22:22:03 0 1
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so someone pointing out a massive failure of the carp government is in the worng? and you say you believe in democracy or is that only if it does want you want it to.. pathetic tory troll
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16/12/2020 10:45:43 72 2
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I would have thought they would have done a lot of modelling to prepare for Brexit...
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16/12/2020 10:45:56 12 16
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Fire their CEO & board: They've had 4 years to prepare plans for either deal/no deal/wto/ etc.
Ditto for any CEO moaning about "uncertainty".....
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JQP
16/12/2020 10:51:17 16 1
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So have the government. By your logic ........
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16/12/2020 10:56:20 2 0
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As a company they will resume shipments when the rules are made and in place. They are not able to ship now as they can not be sure if in the case of no deal these good will have cleared customs in time. The uncertainty is based on what ever impact the new rules have on future demand. Worst case no business Do you plan for that an lay off workers ?
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16/12/2020 11:01:09 2 2
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Totally agree, we seem to give up to easily here! People don't seem to like to save problems but just give up.
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16/12/2020 11:10:45 3 2
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Prepare for what exactly?
I'm pretty sure even Boris himself does not know exactly what he wants out of Brexit.
All sadly very predictable as Brexit as it was sold to us was undeliverable.
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16/12/2020 10:46:32 40 6
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I can't help feeling we are going down the wrong track. Could this be the end of the line, it certainly seems loco! I mean reading between the lines, we seem to have lost of self esteam.
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16/12/2020 11:15:49 18 2
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I think you signal a good point
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16/12/2020 12:44:16 2 0
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Oh well, now that we've left the EU it's full steam ahead...whether we like it or not.
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16/12/2020 17:49:25 0 1
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People will need to retrain, or at least guard against the consequences to avoid going off the rails. Some old buffers aren't on board yet though. Time to sleeper on it.
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16/12/2020 10:46:58 221 31
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That in itself is probably a bigger hit to our economy than losing the fishing industry
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16/12/2020 10:52:02 192 19
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Maybe there is an untapped opportunity for Hornby. Model fishing scene, perhaps with a navy gunboat in the background.
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16/12/2020 12:17:30 19 0
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Lawn mowers bring more money in than fishing.
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16/12/2020 12:38:03 4 3
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and neither more than a pimple on the bum of the covid lock-down hits to our economy.
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16/12/2020 13:57:53 7 1
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Don't joke mate - this isn't the plaice for it, even if it's not on porpoise. It hurts Brexiters right in the sole, when you're on your perch making cod awful jokes and talking carp. Change the tuna!
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16/12/2020 14:17:48 4 1
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I shouldn't find it amusing because it's a sad indictment of Tory Britain.

We all must be heartily sick of hearing the propaganda adverts from the Tories telling businesses to be ready, when we all know full well that businesses don't know what to be ready for.

It's yet another Tory farce!!
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16/12/2020 14:26:48 0 4
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Wow! £17,000 pounds profit in 2019! The loss of that will certainly hit the economy more than the fishing industry (£1billion worth of fish landed 2019). Unfortunately it won't pay off the £2.5 million loss Hornby made the previous year, or the even bigger losses from the years before that.
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16/12/2020 16:23:21 1 0
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Notif they are made in China
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16/12/2020 17:58:34 0 1
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Paused ALL international orders- so non-EU orders have been stopped too, despite there being no change in the rules for those.
Sounds like they have other issues and just masking it with the Brexit excuse.
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16/12/2020 10:45:20 12 11
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Surely it only impacts on sales to the EU not the rest of the world. So a bit OTT response blaming Brexit - not surprised with BBC attitude. Especially as most of their products are made in China anyway.

I can understand more to do with port congestion problems around the world.
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16/12/2020 11:17:44 3 3
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"port congestion problems around the world" - but Rotterdam can still take shipping as the article says with shipping unloading there rather than wait to unload at a British port.
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16/12/2020 11:53:10 3 0
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1 40% of UK exports go to the EU. 2 Britain's trade relationships with the rest of the world are based on membership of the EU. We have 57 trade agreements to replace these. There are 190 or so countries in the world
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16/12/2020 10:43:20 92 7
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Makes perfect sense. This way they are not forced to fulfill orders at a loss should taxes be imposed on Jan 1st. After that date they will hopefully know exactly what they are dealing with.
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16/12/2020 10:45:50 52 36
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but only impacts on sales to EU not the rest of the world
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16/12/2020 10:53:26 44 7
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Not just the EU. What if an order comes from a non-EU country where we currently have a trade deal via EU membership, but it will no longer apply after January. What tariff should be applied then?
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16/12/2020 10:54:29 32 3
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Not necessarily. At the moment they are trading with ROW under EU trading rules. As of Jan 1st they will be trading with ROW either on WTO rules or and trading deals that the UK has secured with each country.
They are just after clarity.
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16/12/2020 12:17:02 6 0
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We've rolled over a lot of the EU trade deals but by no means all.
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16/12/2020 12:18:00 13 1
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the EU is not the only issue - it's about the movement of stock that can't enter or leave our country without extra cost and delays.
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BB
16/12/2020 13:35:15 2 1
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Not true as most trade agreements we have with the rest of the world are actually EU agreements
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16/12/2020 10:39:20 84 9
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Good company, Hornby. It should be put in charge of the UK rail network. I am sure it would then be more reliable with better customer service.
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16/12/2020 10:47:55 61 5
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Unfortunately you wont be able to fit any customers on the trains anymore
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16/12/2020 17:56:54 0 0
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Lol. Been watching Zoolander?
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16/12/2020 10:48:22 8 16
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If Hornby become insolvent, we should reintroduce the death penalty for the crime of supporting Brexit.
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16/12/2020 10:58:56 7 3
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Poor ikle thing ... still angry
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16/12/2020 11:21:28 1 0
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Unfortunately for you, Brexit is not a crime, in fact it is the law of the land passed by a democratically elected government with a huge majority. Maybe it should be a crime to deny Democracy - stands a better chance of being made law.
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16/12/2020 10:39:20 84 9
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Good company, Hornby. It should be put in charge of the UK rail network. I am sure it would then be more reliable with better customer service.
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16/12/2020 10:46:30 7 3
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but they outsourced it to China - time to bring produuction back to UK!!
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16/12/2020 11:22:23 7 0
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They brought some back to the UK, Airfix kits mostly I think but I believe you are right in that it's largely made in the Far East.
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16/12/2020 10:39:18 80 41
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It's about time the plug was pulled on this catastrophic act of self harm - the issue of 'sovereignty' is moot in the connected world we inhabit, and our being independent is a weakness other territories will wish to exploit, not a strength with which we can operate...
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Removed
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16/12/2020 10:38:02 6 11
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oh this is project fear again,what on earth does this company need to do that for until after transition,they have no clarity as well but surely trading under wto tariffs isnt that bad for their customers abroad,it just means higher prices and delivery schedules unassured,brexit cant just be all bad there has to be some good,better ask the fish what they think because our government doesnt know
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16/12/2020 10:47:55 6 0
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indeed - products made in China and only hence sales to EU subject to change not rest of world
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16/12/2020 10:38:02 6 11
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oh this is project fear again,what on earth does this company need to do that for until after transition,they have no clarity as well but surely trading under wto tariffs isnt that bad for their customers abroad,it just means higher prices and delivery schedules unassured,brexit cant just be all bad there has to be some good,better ask the fish what they think because our government doesnt know
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16/12/2020 10:49:09 3 4
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Saying "there has to be some good" really doesn't cut it.

Hornby - and other businesses - want clarity and certainty - or, at least, an idea of what the environment in which they HAVE to trade will be like.

So far, there's little information but certainly some alarming events: ports already congested, not one but 2 lorry parks at Ashford, "passports" for Kent traffic.

Not reassuring, eh?
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16/12/2020 10:37:07 157 35
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Not sure what Hornby are moaning about you'd have thought all the emails and adverts saying "Get Prepared" should be enough.

Prepared for what seems to be next level detail for these clueless chancers in government
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16/12/2020 10:49:13 18 2
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The problem is, prepared for what scenario?
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16/12/2020 11:00:12 26 3
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Indeed, the Tory excuse will be we told you to be prepared, just not for what, they're ideological idiots.
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16/12/2020 10:37:32 108 38
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Cue lots of excruciating rail-themed puns.

Brexit's a really bad idea, by the way.
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16/12/2020 10:48:33 9 22
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But the majoroty voted for it, so it is the democratic will of the people - get over it
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16/12/2020 11:00:04 23 8
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The "majoroty" were ill-equipped to understand what they were voting for.
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16/12/2020 11:11:56 13 6
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The majority didn’t. Get over it.
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16/12/2020 12:35:31 12 2
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You do realise that Democracy doesn't mean that the losers have to shut up forever - just ask DJT....
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mfr
16/12/2020 12:47:09 5 3
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As we keep on saying, the didn't know what they were voting for.
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16/12/2020 13:35:34 2 1
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If you like democracy so much, surely you won't mind in a few years another referendum on EU membership?
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16/12/2020 10:43:31 52 28
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If we can't even export small scale model equipment what hope is there for the UK going forwards.

We really are being led by an Incompetent Donkey
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16/12/2020 10:49:29 16 3
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There are two temporary problems. 1) With the ports already full of containers of PPE in case of sudden need, the Christmas rush and companies stocking up to beat possible tariff changes and in case of disruption, there is congestion. 2) Shipping now could mean delays cause arrival after 31st December and tariffs may have changed then, causing problems. Better to wait until the peak has passed.
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16/12/2020 10:49:48 6 7
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This is 100% OTT - UPS and Fedex and DHL all work great
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16/12/2020 10:58:24 13 4
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It's nothing to do with the couriers (UPS and Fedex etc) but the potential tariffs imposed by this Brexit nonsense
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16/12/2020 10:37:07 157 35
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Not sure what Hornby are moaning about you'd have thought all the emails and adverts saying "Get Prepared" should be enough.

Prepared for what seems to be next level detail for these clueless chancers in government
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16/12/2020 10:50:21 3 33
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WTO terms are fully transparent and known to every business. They have had long enough to prepare for WTO, if it doesn't happen then they stick to their current model. How difficult is that.............
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16/12/2020 10:59:18 17 2
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Not difficult at all, with two weeks to go which route we going for? Come on we must know by now........
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16/12/2020 11:42:28 15 1
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What are WTO terms? If you mean tariffs, the UK has chosen to deviate from these. What you also forget about are non-tariff barriers which can be more restrictive for trade than actual tariffs (for those countries outside the single market). NTBs are set by the EU though may be reduced via negotiation in a trade deal.
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16/12/2020 12:16:32 11 1
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So what do they invoice today, for delivery in January? Assuming the ports are still open - with or without tariffs? Perhaps they could issue 2 invoices and cancel one!
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16/12/2020 12:55:56 7 1
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Why prepare for "No Deal" when it's a million to one chance? Can't quite remember which liar said this...probably Gove...
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16/12/2020 13:13:18 8 1
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You are obviously not in the thick of this as you would appreciate the total lack of technical information being handed out on this whole sorry mess.. We call DEFRA and HMRC daily and are told daily we don't know yet. So tell me how we plan with that sort of answer?
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16/12/2020 17:27:26 1 1
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Deluded and fantasist in one post. I suspect whatever business you are in does not involve the need for a great deal of cross-border transactions.
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16/12/2020 10:45:56 12 16
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Fire their CEO & board: They've had 4 years to prepare plans for either deal/no deal/wto/ etc.
Ditto for any CEO moaning about "uncertainty".....
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JQP
16/12/2020 10:51:17 16 1
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So have the government. By your logic ........
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16/12/2020 11:45:41 2 1
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You clearly don't understand business. As for blame the government, they are delivering what the population of this country voted for 3x. We left the EU, this is now about a trade deal. The UK government has secured 57 trade deals this year, I think you'll find the delays are with Brussels, who will stall forever.
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16/12/2020 10:36:53 40 9
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Fingers crossed Hornby survive they have made excellent toys for year.
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16/12/2020 10:49:42 46 21
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they don't make anything - they outsourced it to China, I would happpily support them if they made their toys in the UK and employed British people rather than Chinese slave labour
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Gaz
16/12/2020 11:23:33 14 6
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There is plenty of slave labour in the UK mate.
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16/12/2020 11:50:37 11 11
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Amazing all the Gammons like you saying that when you are the ones responsible for the UK's demise by wanting everything on the cheap. I also suggest you go to the PRC and take a look for yourself as there is as much "slave" labour in the UK per capita.
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16/12/2020 12:21:19 14 5
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" I would happpily support them if they made their toys in the UK and employed British people rather than Chinese slave labour"

"I would happily pay more for the same thing"... Brexit in a nutshell :P
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16/12/2020 12:22:02 14 3
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"Think they make most of their stuff in China now, so I don't care!"

They said, typing on their computer... made in China! :P
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16/12/2020 12:40:31 5 3
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And you don't own -any- tech made in China, I suppose?
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Pip
16/12/2020 15:01:42 1 2
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If they were made here, no one would be able to afford them, simple as that...........?
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16/12/2020 10:37:32 108 38
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Cue lots of excruciating rail-themed puns.

Brexit's a really bad idea, by the way.
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16/12/2020 10:51:26 3 4
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Come on, lighten up
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16/12/2020 10:46:58 221 31
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That in itself is probably a bigger hit to our economy than losing the fishing industry
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16/12/2020 10:52:02 192 19
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Maybe there is an untapped opportunity for Hornby. Model fishing scene, perhaps with a navy gunboat in the background.
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16/12/2020 11:19:51 40 6
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With a fat tousled hair blonde controller trying to direct operations!
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16/12/2020 11:17:38 23 0
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Would it fire matchsticks like some of the old matchbox model howitzers did?
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16/12/2020 11:22:56 9 0
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The navy haven't had gunboats since WW2 and Hornby do like their products to be accurate.....
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16/12/2020 12:18:24 5 16
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i see you don't know about the Icelandic cod wars. so look up history before you moan,
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16/12/2020 12:19:08 9 0
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Maybe even have model aircraft for the model carrier ! now that would be novel indeed .
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16/12/2020 12:42:00 7 15
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It is a pity that other Modellers haven't stopped peddling their wares, one Prof Ferguson and Imperial College modellers spring to mind.
241
16/12/2020 12:36:50 5 0
bbc
Use the spare Icelandic gunboat models from the late 1950's
330
16/12/2020 13:52:43 4 0
bbc
Don't joke about it. The last Cod War was very unpleasant - and Britain not only didn't win but lost huge support, around the world.
439
16/12/2020 16:51:03 1 0
bbc
LOL :)
448
16/12/2020 17:48:22 0 1
bbc
don't forget the free clown figure in order to fully build out the scene.
463
16/12/2020 18:37:08 2 0
bbc
Or a French fishing boat blocking Calais to UK exports...
1
16/12/2020 10:36:53 40 9
bbc
Fingers crossed Hornby survive they have made excellent toys for year.
36
16/12/2020 10:50:48 12 6
bbc
Think they make most of their stuff in China now, so I don't care!
489
17/12/2020 08:20:30 0 1
bbc
Interesting you don’t care for products made abroad , but have found your way here using an electronic device bet that was made abroad.
2
16/12/2020 10:37:07 157 35
bbc
Not sure what Hornby are moaning about you'd have thought all the emails and adverts saying "Get Prepared" should be enough.

Prepared for what seems to be next level detail for these clueless chancers in government
37
16/12/2020 10:53:05 5 12
bbc
The problem is both temporary congestion at ports delaying products and no confirmation yet of whether they will be a trade deal or not, meaning that they do not know whether there will be tariffs, etc. to pay on arrival in another EU country if shipping delays cause orders to arrive in January. Temporary problems that will soon be resolved.
20
16/12/2020 10:45:50 52 36
bbc
but only impacts on sales to EU not the rest of the world
38
16/12/2020 10:53:26 44 7
bbc
Not just the EU. What if an order comes from a non-EU country where we currently have a trade deal via EU membership, but it will no longer apply after January. What tariff should be applied then?
87
16/12/2020 11:26:22 11 14
bbc
59 out of 70 EU deals have now be re-signed directly with more being signed every day.
39
16/12/2020 10:53:58 9 11
bbc
Typical Hornby, consistently fail to carry out a proper business strategy, fall behind the times, and then blame externalities when it inevitably goes belly up.
20
16/12/2020 10:45:50 52 36
bbc
but only impacts on sales to EU not the rest of the world
40
16/12/2020 10:54:29 32 3
bbc
Not necessarily. At the moment they are trading with ROW under EU trading rules. As of Jan 1st they will be trading with ROW either on WTO rules or and trading deals that the UK has secured with each country.
They are just after clarity.
16
16/12/2020 10:45:56 12 16
bbc
Fire their CEO & board: They've had 4 years to prepare plans for either deal/no deal/wto/ etc.
Ditto for any CEO moaning about "uncertainty".....
41
16/12/2020 10:56:20 2 0
bbc
As a company they will resume shipments when the rules are made and in place. They are not able to ship now as they can not be sure if in the case of no deal these good will have cleared customs in time. The uncertainty is based on what ever impact the new rules have on future demand. Worst case no business Do you plan for that an lay off workers ?
42
16/12/2020 10:55:07 16 16
bbc
Of course, what the BBC doesn't tell you is that Hornby has been very badly managed for many, many years - hardly surprising they are not ready for Brexit !
162
16/12/2020 12:24:34 4 0
bbc
Not a lot are and also a lot of our EU customers are not ready
170
16/12/2020 12:26:35 1 0
bbc
Don't let reality get in the way of a good lie eh!

Hornby went bankrupt, and was only revived fairly recently...

...since it's revival the management have been very good.
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16/12/2020 12:27:01 0 0
bbc
And most of their stuff is manufactured in China.
Hence the issues they are facing, importing their OWN stuff from China to UK and selling on international markets at various currencies.
Wonder if they are managed by a former cabinet minister.
43
16/12/2020 10:57:21 75 50
bbc
Sadly no sympathy for any company whose products are in the main manufactured in China....the source of COVID, oppression of minorities, no respect for international boundaries, slave labour, poor animal welfare and treatment of endangered species...and the list goes on. Bring back manufacturing to the UK or to under developed countries to help their economies grow.
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16/12/2020 11:41:24 124 32
bbc
I assume then that you don't buy any imported products yourself, or UK finished product that uses imported parts or materials ... the problem with the referendum was that any bigoted idiot got to vote on issues that they don't understand
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16/12/2020 11:41:42 16 0
bbc
Well I have started a company in the UK to do just that. Built in Bicester with majority UK manufactured components.
https://thelittlecar.co/
107
16/12/2020 11:44:28 22 4
bbc
That's probably a bit "pot and kettle", poacher27.
You posted a message here so I'm guessing you own a phone or a computer.
You know where it came from? Probably China or a country with an equally poor record of human rights.
109
16/12/2020 11:45:41 19 2
bbc
Does your lack of sympathy extend to the makers of the components in your computer or phone?
152
16/12/2020 12:20:59 12 2
bbc
Even if they were manufactured in the UK, the export tariff issue would arise. So your point is irrelevant.

Well done for trying though.
158
16/12/2020 12:22:38 1 3
bbc
I always check that my dog stew has been ethically produced.
183
16/12/2020 12:30:06 6 2
bbc
Bet the device you typed those silly comments on was made in China. You'd better log off now.
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16/12/2020 12:38:40 4 3
bbc
"Bring back manufacturing to the UK"

This will never happen. We are committed to carbon net zero, and it is physically impossible to manufacture anything this way, certainly not at any scale. The government have not told the truth about what net zero really means.
279
16/12/2020 13:09:53 2 2
bbc
A Hornby loco can easily cost £150, and they are not exactly a profitable company. If they were made in the UK - assuming the expertise still exists - they would be even less affordable.
494
17/12/2020 14:03:53 0 0
bbc
spot on! the importers don,t like the thought of not being able to mark up china imports 400p/c. Brexit should be the springboard needed for the uk to start making our own goods again-look a bit further than the end of your nose.
30
16/12/2020 10:49:48 6 7
bbc
This is 100% OTT - UPS and Fedex and DHL all work great
44
16/12/2020 10:58:24 13 4
bbc
It's nothing to do with the couriers (UPS and Fedex etc) but the potential tariffs imposed by this Brexit nonsense
106
16/12/2020 11:42:59 0 2
bbc
Tariffs work both ways, so if the EU increases the duties on British goods, then the same will happen for the EU products coming to the UK, its called qui pro quo. By the way don't Hornby make in China? 1. Perhaps an opportunity to bring manufacturing back to the UK 2. Since when has China been in the EU, so if Horny are shipping from China to the UK and then to the EU, then sack the Hornby board
45
16/12/2020 10:58:31 11 2
bbc
Surely if as so much of their goods are made abroad, why don't they distribute non-UK orders from there rather than ship them to the UK to send out.
57
16/12/2020 11:05:53 5 3
bbc
They should make them where the market is. Land Rover have.
60
16/12/2020 11:07:23 6 1
bbc
Good idea, just export more UK jobs abroad, there will no need for Hornby to employ anyone here eventually.
That is the way Brexit will eventually play out for many small to medium sized firms.
159
16/12/2020 12:23:08 0 0
bbc
Because offloading a container in a country other than the one where you have a registered office and dealing with the customs is a nightmare. (Done it)
46
16/12/2020 10:58:50 13 10
bbc
Wondering why Remainers didn't bother to vote against Brexit in the referendum - half the country didn't vote

Then they had another chance to stop Brexit by voting Lib Dem in the 2019 General Election. If the 16 million who DID bother to vote against Brexit in the ref had voted Lib Dem, Brexit would have been stopped

I guess they thought it wasn't too bad. And they are allegedly the clever ones!
58
16/12/2020 11:06:12 7 8
bbc
What a binary world you live in. There are many young remainer`s who would never vote Lid Dem due to the Tuition Fee U turn while in coalition with the Tories.

Last elections I don`t recall any party worth voting. anyway I was away on business and missed it.
68
16/12/2020 11:13:40 6 4
bbc
Wondering why Leavers voted for Conservatives.

They certainly are able to show their ability to mismanage every single issue put before them.

Health (virus), Social services (care homes), Education (covid), Industry (Brexit dithering), Transport (port congestion), Justice (Windrush)
227
16/12/2020 12:47:15 1 0
bbc
Funnily enough, some of us Remoaners voted in the referendum, and Lib-Dem in the last election.

But don't let that stop your self-justifying rant!
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16/12/2020 10:50:21 3 33
bbc
WTO terms are fully transparent and known to every business. They have had long enough to prepare for WTO, if it doesn't happen then they stick to their current model. How difficult is that.............
47
16/12/2020 10:59:18 17 2
bbc
Not difficult at all, with two weeks to go which route we going for? Come on we must know by now........
22
16/12/2020 10:48:22 8 16
bbc
If Hornby become insolvent, we should reintroduce the death penalty for the crime of supporting Brexit.
48
16/12/2020 10:58:56 7 3
bbc
Poor ikle thing ... still angry
28
16/12/2020 10:48:33 9 22
bbc
But the majoroty voted for it, so it is the democratic will of the people - get over it
49
16/12/2020 11:00:04 23 8
bbc
The "majoroty" were ill-equipped to understand what they were voting for.
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Pip
16/12/2020 14:58:52 1 0
bbc
Obviously not.........?
27
16/12/2020 10:49:13 18 2
bbc
The problem is, prepared for what scenario?
50
16/12/2020 11:00:12 26 3
bbc
Indeed, the Tory excuse will be we told you to be prepared, just not for what, they're ideological idiots.
16
16/12/2020 10:45:56 12 16
bbc
Fire their CEO & board: They've had 4 years to prepare plans for either deal/no deal/wto/ etc.
Ditto for any CEO moaning about "uncertainty".....
51
16/12/2020 11:01:09 2 2
bbc
Totally agree, we seem to give up to easily here! People don't seem to like to save problems but just give up.
52
jay
16/12/2020 11:01:20 58 8
bbc
there just a company worried about being railroaded in to brexit ,they need a platform,a signal from government ,there just trying to stay on track
389
16/12/2020 15:37:14 3 0
bbc
love your comment - we all need a bit of a laugh
53
16/12/2020 11:01:22 3 7
bbc
Timed

I see

for just as the last Christmas orders leave the warehouse.....
54
16/12/2020 11:02:41 6 8
bbc
Hornby have consistently failed in their business model for years. No surprise there.
55
16/12/2020 11:04:56 5 3
bbc
So like British Leyland.
54
16/12/2020 11:02:41 6 8
bbc
Hornby have consistently failed in their business model for years. No surprise there.
55
16/12/2020 11:04:56 5 3
bbc
So like British Leyland.
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jay
16/12/2020 11:05:46 1 5
bbc
"is that hornby"
"yes"
"do you do the depwesset man on twain "
45
16/12/2020 10:58:31 11 2
bbc
Surely if as so much of their goods are made abroad, why don't they distribute non-UK orders from there rather than ship them to the UK to send out.
57
16/12/2020 11:05:53 5 3
bbc
They should make them where the market is. Land Rover have.
62
16/12/2020 11:08:29 5 0
bbc
Jaguar Land Rover a subsidiary of India's Tata Motors, builds Land Rovers in Brazil, China, India, Slovakia, and the United Kingdom.
253
16/12/2020 12:56:17 1 1
bbc
Ha ha. Taking business advice from Land Rover? The same company who in May 2019 reported a £3.6bn loss...
46
16/12/2020 10:58:50 13 10
bbc
Wondering why Remainers didn't bother to vote against Brexit in the referendum - half the country didn't vote

Then they had another chance to stop Brexit by voting Lib Dem in the 2019 General Election. If the 16 million who DID bother to vote against Brexit in the ref had voted Lib Dem, Brexit would have been stopped

I guess they thought it wasn't too bad. And they are allegedly the clever ones!
58
16/12/2020 11:06:12 7 8
bbc
What a binary world you live in. There are many young remainer`s who would never vote Lid Dem due to the Tuition Fee U turn while in coalition with the Tories.

Last elections I don`t recall any party worth voting. anyway I was away on business and missed it.
65
16/12/2020 11:11:27 3 0
bbc
There are such things as a postal vote, so a cop out by yourself.
96
16/12/2020 11:33:32 7 0
bbc
Ever tried being low man in a coalition government and getting your manifesto pledges past your larger coalition partner?

Both the Lib-Dems and the DUP have found that coalition is a poisoned chalice for the smaller party.
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16/12/2020 11:40:23 6 0
bbc
Tuition Fee : Conservative and Labour manifestos said they would increase. LibDems said no increase. More people voted for Conservative + Labour so Libdems agreed with the majority vote. yet still being criticised 10 years later for putting the country first...
119
16/12/2020 11:56:22 0 3
bbc
Why would anyone ever vote Liberal? All ‘sir?’Ed Daley says is ‘wake up and smell the coffee!’ Memorable stuff.
131
16/12/2020 12:10:25 1 1
bbc
Well, if the students consider that more important than the wider benefit to society of no Brexit, that just sums up the entitlement and selfishness of young people.
59
16/12/2020 11:06:31 26 0
bbc
I recall the BBC published a picture from social media on the morning after the referendum showing Thomas the Tank Engine being bricked up inside the Channel Tunnel.
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jay
16/12/2020 11:07:58 2 0
bbc
????
71
16/12/2020 11:15:24 0 0
bbc
Probably not a good idea to take a steam train through the Channel Tunnel anyway......
45
16/12/2020 10:58:31 11 2
bbc
Surely if as so much of their goods are made abroad, why don't they distribute non-UK orders from there rather than ship them to the UK to send out.
60
16/12/2020 11:07:23 6 1
bbc
Good idea, just export more UK jobs abroad, there will no need for Hornby to employ anyone here eventually.
That is the way Brexit will eventually play out for many small to medium sized firms.
59
16/12/2020 11:06:31 26 0
bbc
I recall the BBC published a picture from social media on the morning after the referendum showing Thomas the Tank Engine being bricked up inside the Channel Tunnel.
61
jay
16/12/2020 11:07:58 2 0
bbc
????
57
16/12/2020 11:05:53 5 3
bbc
They should make them where the market is. Land Rover have.
62
16/12/2020 11:08:29 5 0
bbc
Jaguar Land Rover a subsidiary of India's Tata Motors, builds Land Rovers in Brazil, China, India, Slovakia, and the United Kingdom.
7
16/12/2020 10:40:25 159 7
bbc
Wrong kind of 'leave' on their tracks?
63
16/12/2020 11:08:43 28 13
bbc
"Breggsit on their faces?"
479
16/12/2020 22:19:50 1 1
bbc
typo you left out the 'h'
16
16/12/2020 10:45:56 12 16
bbc
Fire their CEO & board: They've had 4 years to prepare plans for either deal/no deal/wto/ etc.
Ditto for any CEO moaning about "uncertainty".....
64
16/12/2020 11:10:45 3 2
bbc
Prepare for what exactly?
I'm pretty sure even Boris himself does not know exactly what he wants out of Brexit.
All sadly very predictable as Brexit as it was sold to us was undeliverable.
58
16/12/2020 11:06:12 7 8
bbc
What a binary world you live in. There are many young remainer`s who would never vote Lid Dem due to the Tuition Fee U turn while in coalition with the Tories.

Last elections I don`t recall any party worth voting. anyway I was away on business and missed it.
65
16/12/2020 11:11:27 3 0
bbc
There are such things as a postal vote, so a cop out by yourself.
95
16/12/2020 11:33:20 4 3
bbc
I was given 2 day`s notice to cover for a college. Anyway I did not think any party had earned my vote. Although Lid Dems the only party with their manifesto validated by the IFS may have sung it, But in the end where they really credible ?
28
16/12/2020 10:48:33 9 22
bbc
But the majoroty voted for it, so it is the democratic will of the people - get over it
66
16/12/2020 11:11:56 13 6
bbc
The majority didn’t. Get over it.
67
16/12/2020 11:12:28 5 2
bbc
So what they are saying is that their Christmas shutdown this year is a couple of days longer.
46
16/12/2020 10:58:50 13 10
bbc
Wondering why Remainers didn't bother to vote against Brexit in the referendum - half the country didn't vote

Then they had another chance to stop Brexit by voting Lib Dem in the 2019 General Election. If the 16 million who DID bother to vote against Brexit in the ref had voted Lib Dem, Brexit would have been stopped

I guess they thought it wasn't too bad. And they are allegedly the clever ones!
68
16/12/2020 11:13:40 6 4
bbc
Wondering why Leavers voted for Conservatives.

They certainly are able to show their ability to mismanage every single issue put before them.

Health (virus), Social services (care homes), Education (covid), Industry (Brexit dithering), Transport (port congestion), Justice (Windrush)
73
16/12/2020 11:17:25 4 2
bbc
Because the only alternative was Corbyn.
77
16/12/2020 11:21:14 2 6
bbc
... and you actually believe that any other political party would have done better? After all, they are all know-nothing politicians.
69
16/12/2020 11:14:53 4 3
bbc
"You've got a pandemic, you've got Brexit, you've got a container shortage. It's chaos."
----

A container shortage? Funny how all the blame goes on the bigger issues, but others get overlooked. Anything else we're not being told?
70
rr6
16/12/2020 11:15:19 7 11
bbc
All businesses that import materials/products, outsource services and export have always faced risks with currency movements, etc. The current situation is no different. If Hornby can’t handle this complexity, they have the wrong staff. Normally these risks are mitigated by pricing deals in a chosen currency and/or including contingency in the price.
83
16/12/2020 11:23:05 4 5
bbc
The wrong staff !! precisely … does beggar the question though, if that's their attitude as to how they've managed to last up until now !!!
88
16/12/2020 11:27:04 1 1
bbc
'current situation no different' ?????
What is wrong with you people ?
100
16/12/2020 11:38:32 1 0
bbc
I couldn't agree more with you, I run an International business. This is normal in the real world. Foreign currency is always the biggest mover (it happens on the minute!). Customs documentation has been clear for months UK EORI, EU EORI and XI registrations, the only doubt it tariff (deal or no deal) its a yes or no a very simple decision. Yes it should have been done earlier, but that's politics
59
16/12/2020 11:06:31 26 0
bbc
I recall the BBC published a picture from social media on the morning after the referendum showing Thomas the Tank Engine being bricked up inside the Channel Tunnel.
71
16/12/2020 11:15:24 0 0
bbc
Probably not a good idea to take a steam train through the Channel Tunnel anyway......
17
16/12/2020 10:46:32 40 6
bbc
I can't help feeling we are going down the wrong track. Could this be the end of the line, it certainly seems loco! I mean reading between the lines, we seem to have lost of self esteam.
72
16/12/2020 11:15:49 18 2
bbc
I think you signal a good point
161
16/12/2020 12:24:02 1 1
bbc
Think he missed his station in life.
68
16/12/2020 11:13:40 6 4
bbc
Wondering why Leavers voted for Conservatives.

They certainly are able to show their ability to mismanage every single issue put before them.

Health (virus), Social services (care homes), Education (covid), Industry (Brexit dithering), Transport (port congestion), Justice (Windrush)
73
16/12/2020 11:17:25 4 2
bbc
Because the only alternative was Corbyn.
132
16/12/2020 12:11:20 1 0
bbc
What? Lib Dems would have stopped Brexit.
19
16/12/2020 10:45:20 12 11
bbc
Surely it only impacts on sales to the EU not the rest of the world. So a bit OTT response blaming Brexit - not surprised with BBC attitude. Especially as most of their products are made in China anyway.

I can understand more to do with port congestion problems around the world.
74
16/12/2020 11:17:44 3 3
bbc
"port congestion problems around the world" - but Rotterdam can still take shipping as the article says with shipping unloading there rather than wait to unload at a British port.
470
16/12/2020 19:50:08 0 0
bbc
But from Rotterdam there is no transport, its not just the ports clogged up.
75
16/12/2020 11:17:58 9 14
bbc
Whoo Whoo. Another ostrich company waiting until 11th hour before getting heads out of ground. Senior managment are meant to plan and manage inall situations. LOL
81
16/12/2020 11:22:39 11 6
bbc
They tried the government helpline but it was just a recorded message of a clown saying the British bulldog will prosper mightily in the sunlit uplands.
85
16/12/2020 11:23:47 1 1
bbc
Perhaps you can tell Hornby the tariff on a Scalextrix set after January 1st?
35
16/12/2020 10:52:02 192 19
bbc
Maybe there is an untapped opportunity for Hornby. Model fishing scene, perhaps with a navy gunboat in the background.
76
16/12/2020 11:19:51 40 6
bbc
With a fat tousled hair blonde controller trying to direct operations!
68
16/12/2020 11:13:40 6 4
bbc
Wondering why Leavers voted for Conservatives.

They certainly are able to show their ability to mismanage every single issue put before them.

Health (virus), Social services (care homes), Education (covid), Industry (Brexit dithering), Transport (port congestion), Justice (Windrush)
77
16/12/2020 11:21:14 2 6
bbc
... and you actually believe that any other political party would have done better? After all, they are all know-nothing politicians.
22
16/12/2020 10:48:22 8 16
bbc
If Hornby become insolvent, we should reintroduce the death penalty for the crime of supporting Brexit.
78
16/12/2020 11:21:28 1 0
bbc
Unfortunately for you, Brexit is not a crime, in fact it is the law of the land passed by a democratically elected government with a huge majority. Maybe it should be a crime to deny Democracy - stands a better chance of being made law.
35
16/12/2020 10:52:02 192 19
bbc
Maybe there is an untapped opportunity for Hornby. Model fishing scene, perhaps with a navy gunboat in the background.
79
16/12/2020 11:17:38 23 0
bbc
Would it fire matchsticks like some of the old matchbox model howitzers did?
118
16/12/2020 11:55:18 15 0
bbc
Ah ! the 25 pounder field gun.
23
16/12/2020 10:46:30 7 3
bbc
but they outsourced it to China - time to bring produuction back to UK!!
80
16/12/2020 11:22:23 7 0
bbc
They brought some back to the UK, Airfix kits mostly I think but I believe you are right in that it's largely made in the Far East.
222
16/12/2020 12:44:20 2 0
bbc
Airfix kits are mostly made in india not china. Some are moulded in the UK.
75
16/12/2020 11:17:58 9 14
bbc
Whoo Whoo. Another ostrich company waiting until 11th hour before getting heads out of ground. Senior managment are meant to plan and manage inall situations. LOL
81
16/12/2020 11:22:39 11 6
bbc
They tried the government helpline but it was just a recorded message of a clown saying the British bulldog will prosper mightily in the sunlit uplands.
35
16/12/2020 10:52:02 192 19
bbc
Maybe there is an untapped opportunity for Hornby. Model fishing scene, perhaps with a navy gunboat in the background.
82
16/12/2020 11:22:56 9 0
bbc
The navy haven't had gunboats since WW2 and Hornby do like their products to be accurate.....
250
16/12/2020 12:55:53 5 0
bbc
We've got fast patrol boats that have a cannon and machine gun armament (no missiles) ie boats with guns... "gun boats"
70
rr6
16/12/2020 11:15:19 7 11
bbc
All businesses that import materials/products, outsource services and export have always faced risks with currency movements, etc. The current situation is no different. If Hornby can’t handle this complexity, they have the wrong staff. Normally these risks are mitigated by pricing deals in a chosen currency and/or including contingency in the price.
83
16/12/2020 11:23:05 4 5
bbc
The wrong staff !! precisely … does beggar the question though, if that's their attitude as to how they've managed to last up until now !!!
33
16/12/2020 10:49:42 46 21
bbc
they don't make anything - they outsourced it to China, I would happpily support them if they made their toys in the UK and employed British people rather than Chinese slave labour
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Gaz
16/12/2020 11:23:33 14 6
bbc
There is plenty of slave labour in the UK mate.
75
16/12/2020 11:17:58 9 14
bbc
Whoo Whoo. Another ostrich company waiting until 11th hour before getting heads out of ground. Senior managment are meant to plan and manage inall situations. LOL
85
16/12/2020 11:23:47 1 1
bbc
Perhaps you can tell Hornby the tariff on a Scalextrix set after January 1st?
86
16/12/2020 11:24:20 15 8
bbc
I wonder how much Hornby pay the Chinese workers who build much of their products?
38
16/12/2020 10:53:26 44 7
bbc
Not just the EU. What if an order comes from a non-EU country where we currently have a trade deal via EU membership, but it will no longer apply after January. What tariff should be applied then?
87
16/12/2020 11:26:22 11 14
bbc
59 out of 70 EU deals have now be re-signed directly with more being signed every day.
But - one of the main "benefits" to Brexit was that we could have "BETTER" deals with the rest of the world. What happened?
70
rr6
16/12/2020 11:15:19 7 11
bbc
All businesses that import materials/products, outsource services and export have always faced risks with currency movements, etc. The current situation is no different. If Hornby can’t handle this complexity, they have the wrong staff. Normally these risks are mitigated by pricing deals in a chosen currency and/or including contingency in the price.
88
16/12/2020 11:27:04 1 1
bbc
'current situation no different' ?????
What is wrong with you people ?
89
16/12/2020 11:28:20 0 0
bbc
Leave on the track :-)
90
16/12/2020 11:28:24 3 2
bbc
obviously not any better at running the railways than any other UK operator.
91
16/12/2020 11:29:49 6 8
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Just submitted my Tariff cost increase to a big food retailer for my biscuits. Its 9% lads. And thats just the tariff bfore we even get to increased logistics costs etc. Brexit is going sooo well! We know who to blame, Covid Clown Johnson and his cronies
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16/12/2020 11:36:07 2 1
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which tariff going in which direction - it's not clear if you're an importer or exporter?
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16/12/2020 12:36:02 1 0
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Maybe increased prices on biscuits will help the fight against obesity.
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16/12/2020 11:30:13 0 4
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Absolutely, these foreigners will renage on payments once Brexit kicks in, why should they, there will be no mechanism to make them pay.
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16/12/2020 11:31:40 14 13
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Just another company that doesn't seem to be very good at risk management and forward planning.

Why BBC, why?
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16/12/2020 13:01:34 3 1
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Because the government won't tell them what the new rules of the game are, yet...

Is it really that hard to grasp?
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16/12/2020 13:09:48 2 0
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Hi Keith,

Please define the risk of Brexit i.e. what is the precise tariff for a UK toy being sold in the EU on the 2nd Jan and how much that differs from today?

The law is still undecided as the discussions on a trade deal still continue.

You can't plan for every eventuality if every company had held enough cash to get them through a COVID type event in 2019 we'd have laughed at them.
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16/12/2020 11:32:25 2 0
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leaves on the tracks
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16/12/2020 11:11:27 3 0
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There are such things as a postal vote, so a cop out by yourself.
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16/12/2020 11:33:20 4 3
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I was given 2 day`s notice to cover for a college. Anyway I did not think any party had earned my vote. Although Lid Dems the only party with their manifesto validated by the IFS may have sung it, But in the end where they really credible ?
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16/12/2020 11:06:12 7 8
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What a binary world you live in. There are many young remainer`s who would never vote Lid Dem due to the Tuition Fee U turn while in coalition with the Tories.

Last elections I don`t recall any party worth voting. anyway I was away on business and missed it.
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16/12/2020 11:33:32 7 0
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Ever tried being low man in a coalition government and getting your manifesto pledges past your larger coalition partner?

Both the Lib-Dems and the DUP have found that coalition is a poisoned chalice for the smaller party.
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16/12/2020 12:13:14 2 0
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You are completely correct it is the same across Europe the Smaller parties in most coalitions tend to suffer. Even though coalitions are far more common.
Politics is not an easy game, I have too much of it at work.
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16/12/2020 11:35:02 13 12
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As a leader of an International business, I am appalled that Hornby's management couldn't plan for this, its been coming for 4 years? Also foreign exchange moves daily, so how on earth do they manage foreign currency if they are doing international business? Not all EU members are in the Euro! This is either false news or pathetic management!
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16/12/2020 11:45:33 14 4
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So maybe you should ring Hornby and tell them what the government's detailed, agreed plan is. They're waiting for your call.
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16/12/2020 12:33:25 0 0
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How do they manage foriegn currency? Er, hedging. It's a thing. Look it up.

You can't hedge for tariffs.
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16/12/2020 12:44:03 1 0
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I think they have taken prudent steps to mitigate themselves should a no deal be in place ? They have removed all risk from goods getting stuck and customers being let down. In regards to Forex movements I guess it depends on what exposure they have to see if it warrants forward buying or having options in place.
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16/12/2020 12:52:58 0 2
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perhaps explains the performance of this company over the last few years
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16/12/2020 11:29:49 6 8
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Just submitted my Tariff cost increase to a big food retailer for my biscuits. Its 9% lads. And thats just the tariff bfore we even get to increased logistics costs etc. Brexit is going sooo well! We know who to blame, Covid Clown Johnson and his cronies
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16/12/2020 11:36:07 2 1
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which tariff going in which direction - it's not clear if you're an importer or exporter?
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16/12/2020 11:53:20 0 1
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importer. 8% on one line, 4% plus £10 per 100kg on other lines. These are imposed by our government on us. Crazy
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16/12/2020 10:43:31 52 28
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If we can't even export small scale model equipment what hope is there for the UK going forwards.

We really are being led by an Incompetent Donkey
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16/12/2020 11:38:19 3 1
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It's being imported from China in the first instance........to be re exported........ It's not really a British product any more...... Maybe it's time to bring out sourced jobs back to the UK .......
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16/12/2020 13:09:53 4 1
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Because we can compete with other economies at low end manufacture on price.

Slow clap.....

Although the EU do think the model the Brexiteers are headed for is race to the bottom - bonfire of environmental, worker etc. regulations to try to pump stuff out as cheaply as possible. Not so great for the majority, more good news for the hedge fund managers who bankrolled Brexit in the first place.
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16/12/2020 15:10:18 1 0
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sounds cost effective, not.............?
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16/12/2020 11:15:19 7 11
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All businesses that import materials/products, outsource services and export have always faced risks with currency movements, etc. The current situation is no different. If Hornby can’t handle this complexity, they have the wrong staff. Normally these risks are mitigated by pricing deals in a chosen currency and/or including contingency in the price.
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16/12/2020 11:38:32 1 0
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I couldn't agree more with you, I run an International business. This is normal in the real world. Foreign currency is always the biggest mover (it happens on the minute!). Customs documentation has been clear for months UK EORI, EU EORI and XI registrations, the only doubt it tariff (deal or no deal) its a yes or no a very simple decision. Yes it should have been done earlier, but that's politics