Covid: Chaotic start for travellers' Covid testing system
15/12/2020 | news | business | 468
The Test to Release programme is supposed to cut quarantine times for people arriving in England.
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15/12/2020 17:45:31 3 15
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I don't think isolating will have a big effect on stopping the virus

Just got in and get back to work
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15/12/2020 17:46:16 127 21
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More outsourced testing that has fallen flat on it's face. Way to go Tories!!!!
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15/12/2020 18:36:48 31 53
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As opposed to the insourced Public Health England who've done a Sterling job of everything
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15/12/2020 17:47:15 68 13
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another govt failure suppose we should be well used to having world beating failures by now poor travellers
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15/12/2020 19:55:55 45 10
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With Trump on his way out the UK Gov looks like it will become the next World Laughing Stock.

Hope this one isn't using Excel 97 again

Bojo the Clown promises so much but fails to deliver anything that actually works
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15/12/2020 17:48:36 116 27
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At every stage of the pandemic that world-beating buffoon Johnson has failed and thousands have died unnecessarily.
Johnson is a walking disaster zone.
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15/12/2020 18:03:23 46 67
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Boris is not spreading the virus, the idiots called people are doing a fine job. Selfish comes to mind
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15/12/2020 19:33:21 18 8
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What did you expect?
Anyone who voted for a lazy racist cheating pathological liar to lead the country thinking he’d do a good job need to find their brain
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15/12/2020 17:49:03 7 5
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Until quarantine means staying locked up securely in the airport of departure, what is the point ?

Fly and maybe infect the plane
Travel on and maybe infect the tube/train/taxi (excl SNP MP's of course)
Then sit and find out if you have done so

Isolate (incubation period), then test, then fly, then safe
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15/12/2020 17:49:08 166 30
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Totally in keeping with the gross incompetence shown by the Government on pretty much everything.
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15/12/2020 18:27:37 54 126
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Classic anti government headline from the BBC ‘‘chaotic’. Says who? Oh - some random bloke - so why isn’t the headline in inverted commas?

BBC must be bored waiting for the next EU story they can use to bash the government.
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15/12/2020 18:28:46 6 34
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Also lovin’ the way the Far Left and the remainers use any bizarre angle to vent their impotent rage.
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15/12/2020 17:49:18 1 10
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This is what happens when the rules say you must put things out to tender and accept bids from all parties.
I wonder which civil servants are to blame for this screw up on selection of the companies?
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15/12/2020 17:54:59 10 1
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Really? The government don’t seem to be running any formal tenders during the pandemic.
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15/12/2020 17:49:50 117 19
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World beating by Boris .lol ??????????????????
He really is the Clown Prince, Head of a Shambolic Kakistocracy.

Like a Fecal Midas everything he gets near just turns to ...
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16/12/2020 19:00:52 0 0
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Its best I've seen.
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15/12/2020 17:50:29 213 25
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It's a never ending conveyor belt of incompetence.
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15/12/2020 19:44:14 62 88
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An earlier version of this BBC article stated that some of the largest test providers were not included because "they had not submitted applications in time".

How is that the govt being incompetent? They set a deadline, many firms didn't meet it so were not chosen!

I note that sentence has been removed from the now one sided article, and a HYS opened up for more govt bashing.
Boris really is the Clown Prince of a Shambolic Kakistocracy.

Like a Fecal Midas everything he gets near turns to ...
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15/12/2020 19:58:31 34 7
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How dare you! What is it about the govts world beating track and trace systems, their 200,000 tests on 100,000 people, their handling of Brexit, their understanding of Dover-Calais shipping, their eye test practices etc that makes you think such a mean comment is justified!? I bid you good day sir!
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15/12/2020 20:05:55 10 2
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Yes from private companies and our private health care
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15/12/2020 22:22:56 0 1
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Come Fly With Me!
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15/12/2020 23:17:06 0 2
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..and all they have to do is quit. not just some of it. all of it.
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15/12/2020 17:51:15 5 15
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HYS just seems to be a place whereby militant 1970 style union officials get to repeat the same rhetoric on a daily basis, with the blessing of the BBC.
Or am I wrong?
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15/12/2020 18:00:33 8 3
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Says borisbot number 1!
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15/12/2020 17:52:33 3 4
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And you wonder why most company’s go to the wall, most couldn’t run a one table tea shop
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15/12/2020 18:24:28 2 1
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But they might be able to spell.
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15/12/2020 17:52:06 66 11
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Thoughts of organizing a good drinking session in a brewery come to mind. This testing isn't rocket science. Looking at this, and similar fiascos, what most of us are racking our brains over is how this government can be SO INCOMPETENT. You have to put in real and sustained effort to be THIS BAD. A bunch of primary school kids could probably organize things better.
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15/12/2020 18:41:48 6 34
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Speak for yourself there DG!!
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15/12/2020 19:02:46 8 2
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Yep. With the possible exception of the furlough scheme (although u turns and several attempts to get it right), most of their decisions have been disastrous and it seems it is carrying on.
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15/12/2020 17:54:59 18 4
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The government reducing self isolation to 10 days just before this programme was due to start meant failure.
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15/12/2020 18:38:15 13 8
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If people in this country would actually bother to isolate as required if they had Covid then maybe we wouldn't need all these additional measures. But a lot of people are far too selfish to think of any greater good.
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15/12/2020 17:49:18 1 10
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This is what happens when the rules say you must put things out to tender and accept bids from all parties.
I wonder which civil servants are to blame for this screw up on selection of the companies?
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15/12/2020 17:54:59 10 1
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Really? The government don’t seem to be running any formal tenders during the pandemic.
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15/12/2020 18:01:49 0 4
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And you seem to believe Boris is doing everything. Are you supplying the toilet paper or do you want him to provide that as well
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15/12/2020 17:57:00 37 7
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Shakes head in disbelief . . . again!
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15/12/2020 17:59:49 18 6
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Will this excuse for a government ever get something right? How to do things badly and fail seems to be their slogan!
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15/12/2020 18:40:01 3 15
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Could you do any better? I think not!
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15/12/2020 18:00:05 103 16
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World Beating incompetence
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15/12/2020 17:51:15 5 15
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HYS just seems to be a place whereby militant 1970 style union officials get to repeat the same rhetoric on a daily basis, with the blessing of the BBC.
Or am I wrong?
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15/12/2020 18:00:33 8 3
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Says borisbot number 1!
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15/12/2020 18:01:07 2 4
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I've got a BUPA hospital 20m from me in Suffolk...But according to the Gov list, that ain't good enough
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15/12/2020 18:03:27 3 1
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And did they actually apply to be on the list
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15/12/2020 17:54:59 10 1
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Really? The government don’t seem to be running any formal tenders during the pandemic.
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15/12/2020 18:01:49 0 4
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And you seem to believe Boris is doing everything. Are you supplying the toilet paper or do you want him to provide that as well
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15/12/2020 17:48:36 116 27
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At every stage of the pandemic that world-beating buffoon Johnson has failed and thousands have died unnecessarily.
Johnson is a walking disaster zone.
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15/12/2020 18:03:23 46 67
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Boris is not spreading the virus, the idiots called people are doing a fine job. Selfish comes to mind
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15/12/2020 18:46:06 12 16
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I totally agree with you! The rules are clearly stated, but try to get idiots to obey simple rules is nearly impossible! They just want to blame the government!
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15/12/2020 19:12:21 21 6
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Actually Johnson did PLENTY to spread the virus by failing to lock down, allowing sporting events to continue way too long, giving contracts to his mates however incompetent or unsuitable for the role and shaking hands with covid patients and bragging about it.
Bunter is the ring master of the whe Brexi-Tory Death Circus.
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15/12/2020 19:17:54 15 3
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The problem is, the government has been responsible for so many mistakes already that people have completely lost confidence in that they have any idea what they are doing, and once this trust has gone there is no way back.
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15/12/2020 20:59:53 1 2
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Hard to choose between the two really.
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15/12/2020 18:01:07 2 4
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I've got a BUPA hospital 20m from me in Suffolk...But according to the Gov list, that ain't good enough
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15/12/2020 18:03:27 3 1
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And did they actually apply to be on the list
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15/12/2020 18:07:42 3 5
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First day blues, it'll work, take a chill pill.
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15/12/2020 18:10:35 83 12
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What did everyone ACTUALLY expect from this government? Their comprehensive procurement programme, are they mates, neighbours or party donors?
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15/12/2020 22:58:50 6 2
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If the slogan contains more than three words they stop reading.
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15/12/2020 23:21:58 1 0
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Pathetic posts the government rarely see a contract which is why there are thouyof grey suits in every ministerial department only an idiot would expect procurement to be handled by one person, sort of post you get when children get hold of the keyboard
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15/12/2020 18:10:47 4 1
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I don't understand why we can't get rapid tests available in pharmacies and GPs like many other countries do. Much cheaper and it would actually encourage people to get a test done before seeing loved ones. Plus to get out of quarantine. I understand that PCR tests are a little bit more reliable, but after 5 days in quarantine, chances are you would already show symptoms anyway.
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15/12/2020 18:24:47 2 1
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And maybe all the testing facilities that have been set up on university campuses could be used for this? They are all up and running, and students won't need to be tested again until mid-January. Simple. Use these facilities to test people out of quarantine over the holidays while all the labs will be shut on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years etc...
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15/12/2020 23:27:17 1 0
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You could do but the U.K. has a government picked for their blind dogmatic adherence to Brexit. The cabinet have no other talents that I can detect, rather good at bullying and corruption though, the great public school system has trained them for that.
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15/12/2020 18:16:01 3 5
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What did the companies who applied for this registration expect? Everyone is blaming the government but these companies are in it for commercial reasons and should have ensured that they had the capacity to do what they contracted for.
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15/12/2020 18:20:06 3 1
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They were assuming the government would approve enough test providers to keep volume for each provider within reasonable limits. Instead, the big providers have not yet been included as the BBC report explains. Result is chaos. Again, totally disastrous performance from this useless government. My elder son, just arrived back in the UK from work abroad, is unable to get a test.
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15/12/2020 18:31:48 0 1
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'unprecedented'....

just cos you pay for it, doesn't mean you get anything for it
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15/12/2020 18:19:24 4 3
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How can a government make so much red tape for companies and yet never checked to see if they could cope with massive volumes 10's of thousands of people weekly. Everything any government does is always run by a public sector worker who has little to no idea of the real world. Its clearly very important to get back to work so it will be massively popular.
Open it up to large companies immediately.
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15/12/2020 18:38:02 3 1
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The NHS is the best example of that by a country mile . Everything in Gov will be closed for Christmas soon probably until the new year so best of luck if you think things will improve quickly .
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15/12/2020 18:19:49 73 11
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The government probably just handed out contracts to people on their speed dial lists, it obviously pays dividends to be chummy with people in government.
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15/12/2020 23:05:44 8 2
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Chummy... Corrupt.

Potato... potato.

Let's call the whole thing... a scam.
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15/12/2020 23:24:20 0 1
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Do you just copy and paste this vacuous drivel from the non existent looney left party, if you want shambles delve into the Labour party antics you are never going to see on bb
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15/12/2020 18:19:54 151 17
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Many of these companies were probably picked by Tory Ministers doing their mates and next door neighbours a favour. Not for their expertise and competence.

£45k pay rise for Dominic Cummings eh?

Nice one Bozo!
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15/12/2020 18:27:10 95 23
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He should be given a life sentence for the pain he has caused to this good nation.
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15/12/2020 19:12:00 12 2
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Pay off, he knows too much!
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15/12/2020 23:00:19 1 3
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He got £45k for delivering 1) a massive Tory win over Corbynism, and 2) delivering a Brexit Withdrawal agreement.

Seems a small amount for that. Puts him on the pay of a BBC middle manager. There are thousands of them.
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15/12/2020 18:16:01 3 5
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What did the companies who applied for this registration expect? Everyone is blaming the government but these companies are in it for commercial reasons and should have ensured that they had the capacity to do what they contracted for.
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15/12/2020 18:20:06 3 1
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They were assuming the government would approve enough test providers to keep volume for each provider within reasonable limits. Instead, the big providers have not yet been included as the BBC report explains. Result is chaos. Again, totally disastrous performance from this useless government. My elder son, just arrived back in the UK from work abroad, is unable to get a test.
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15/12/2020 18:22:19 36 6
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I'm really surprised given how excellent this government has performed this year.

No wait...I'm not.

Let's see how the mass vaccination goes next year...
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15/12/2020 18:22:23 86 7
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I saw airport testing in Vietnam...back in January. No silly contracts or red tape, it was done by their army medical division. It caused about a 30 minute delay at the airport. Check their numbers compared to ours
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15/12/2020 18:34:00 14 53
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high humidity greatly reduces transmission (worse in winter when air is cold and holds less moisture) - look it up then look up Vietnam climate averages
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15/12/2020 23:18:24 0 1
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You could have stayed doubt it would upset me
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15/12/2020 23:51:49 2 0
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Why would you want to give it to the Army to do when they would make a very good job of it. When you can outsource to a private company who will make a complete horlicks, where’s the sense in that. And, come on...how can you get a kickback from the Army, when you can give the contract to your chums and they’ll take you for a pint.
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15/12/2020 18:22:58 25 8
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Probably the most corrupt, inept government in the history of the UK yet with a massive majority. Speaks volumes.
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15/12/2020 18:34:48 20 3
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never say politics has reached a new low

there's always next month
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15/12/2020 18:36:19 1 5
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be careful what you say...there is such a thing as slander!!
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15/12/2020 20:42:28 1 1
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Not correct, as the PM has recently been facing a considerable increasing revolt from his MPs every week, which should hopefully give him a vote of no confidence early next year.
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15/12/2020 17:52:33 3 4
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And you wonder why most company’s go to the wall, most couldn’t run a one table tea shop
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15/12/2020 18:24:28 2 1
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But they might be able to spell.
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15/12/2020 18:10:47 4 1
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I don't understand why we can't get rapid tests available in pharmacies and GPs like many other countries do. Much cheaper and it would actually encourage people to get a test done before seeing loved ones. Plus to get out of quarantine. I understand that PCR tests are a little bit more reliable, but after 5 days in quarantine, chances are you would already show symptoms anyway.
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15/12/2020 18:24:47 2 1
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And maybe all the testing facilities that have been set up on university campuses could be used for this? They are all up and running, and students won't need to be tested again until mid-January. Simple. Use these facilities to test people out of quarantine over the holidays while all the labs will be shut on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years etc...
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15/12/2020 18:26:13 14 4
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Best of luck trying to get travellers to abide by any rules and regulations
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15/12/2020 18:57:52 9 4
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I will abide by any rules if I can get out of this god forsaken hole of a country run by a ship of fools!
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15/12/2020 18:19:54 151 17
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Many of these companies were probably picked by Tory Ministers doing their mates and next door neighbours a favour. Not for their expertise and competence.

£45k pay rise for Dominic Cummings eh?

Nice one Bozo!
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15/12/2020 18:27:10 95 23
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He should be given a life sentence for the pain he has caused to this good nation.
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15/12/2020 18:36:59 2 20
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what pain?
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15/12/2020 19:19:48 1 12
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Get a grip man
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15/12/2020 19:48:17 14 3
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"He" who? I'd say the whole Tory Cabinet and their entire raft of "special advisers".
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15/12/2020 20:25:13 8 3
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I'd rather he was hung, drawn and quartered for treason
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15/12/2020 21:59:22 3 3
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He was just doing what he's good at.
A scheming little ba*****d with poor dress sense.
He and the others care little for the common people who are just policy fodder.
Fortunately, the common sense part of his brain went into lockdown in his trip up North.
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15/12/2020 18:29:32 3 3
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They have this option or they have the option not to travel abroad for a while!
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15/12/2020 18:30:31 16 6
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Really!!!! Another complete farce ........ surely not.

"Send in The Clowns - Don't Bother They're here!!!"
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15/12/2020 18:30:51 4 8
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This is a failure of private enterprise, not government. A slack handful of ministers do not conduct the test and trace but have to rely on the private sector to do it. The public sector cannot do it as they are otherwise engaged. If you contract a builder to do your conservatory and it is a disaster, does that make you incompetent ?
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15/12/2020 18:33:26 5 4
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If you haven’t done due diligence then yes. Good attempt at deflecting
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15/12/2020 18:33:46 1 1
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it's not the government fault

it isn't the governments fault.

the government have a long history of rinsing everything for their own pocket

we can safely blame the government.
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15/12/2020 18:52:35 2 1
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Government bodies award the contracts, they are responsible for conducting due diligence to ensure our taxes are spent wisely. Tax rises are inevitable but will be much worse due to this government’s incompetence.
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15/12/2020 17:49:08 166 30
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Totally in keeping with the gross incompetence shown by the Government on pretty much everything.
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15/12/2020 18:27:37 54 126
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Classic anti government headline from the BBC ‘‘chaotic’. Says who? Oh - some random bloke - so why isn’t the headline in inverted commas?

BBC must be bored waiting for the next EU story they can use to bash the government.
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15/12/2020 19:11:29 27 10
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If you think this government is doing a great job on COVID and Brexit I do worry about you! The BBC is very pro government, bordering on the insincere, thanks to it being their paymaster. They ought to be carrying out some more investigations into how the government is getting one thing wrong after the other, they seem to have zero learning capacity from past mistakes.
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15/12/2020 19:23:40 23 4
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Factual not anti government just anti incompetence. I have tracked this system for weeks on the gov.uk website and to produce a ridiculously small list of accredited companies in the dying seconds before the scheme starts is the definition of incompetence. Try explaining why Collinson who have tested for months whilst supplying information to the government are excluded amongst countless others.
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15/12/2020 19:41:51 10 3
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Well said Boris. Good to see your using the BBC
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15/12/2020 19:42:47 16 3
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You clearly haven’t tried to use this scheme then. on last night after names were finally on the website, 4 weeks after the scheme was announced but just a day before it would need to be used. One link on the site took you to the wrong provider. One said they’d had testing issues over the weekend so no testing at the moment. All but one you could only register interest not book. So, yes chaotic
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15/12/2020 22:56:05 3 1
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A bit like the Daily Express talking about "fury" at some minor problem its owner doesn't like
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15/12/2020 18:31:41 3 6
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"The BBC understands that the Department for Transport did not accredit the larger operators who provide Covid tests at scale, because they ran out of time. Instead, smaller operators were given accreditation."

= We're not sure if it's true, but we'll publish it anyway....
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15/12/2020 19:21:11 0 1
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no this reflects that the DoT contact had no idea what fiddle had been done ...but had to say something.
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15/12/2020 18:16:01 3 5
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What did the companies who applied for this registration expect? Everyone is blaming the government but these companies are in it for commercial reasons and should have ensured that they had the capacity to do what they contracted for.
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15/12/2020 18:31:48 0 1
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'unprecedented'....

just cos you pay for it, doesn't mean you get anything for it
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15/12/2020 18:30:51 4 8
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This is a failure of private enterprise, not government. A slack handful of ministers do not conduct the test and trace but have to rely on the private sector to do it. The public sector cannot do it as they are otherwise engaged. If you contract a builder to do your conservatory and it is a disaster, does that make you incompetent ?
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15/12/2020 18:33:26 5 4
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If you haven’t done due diligence then yes. Good attempt at deflecting
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15/12/2020 19:23:10 0 1
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no the contractor must discharge his duty competently.
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15/12/2020 18:30:51 4 8
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This is a failure of private enterprise, not government. A slack handful of ministers do not conduct the test and trace but have to rely on the private sector to do it. The public sector cannot do it as they are otherwise engaged. If you contract a builder to do your conservatory and it is a disaster, does that make you incompetent ?
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15/12/2020 18:33:46 1 1
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it's not the government fault

it isn't the governments fault.

the government have a long history of rinsing everything for their own pocket

we can safely blame the government.
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15/12/2020 18:22:23 86 7
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I saw airport testing in Vietnam...back in January. No silly contracts or red tape, it was done by their army medical division. It caused about a 30 minute delay at the airport. Check their numbers compared to ours
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15/12/2020 18:34:00 14 53
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high humidity greatly reduces transmission (worse in winter when air is cold and holds less moisture) - look it up then look up Vietnam climate averages
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15/12/2020 18:37:34 25 3
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Proper test, track and trace from January means you don’t have anyone with the virus near your shores. Whilst we are in lockdown I am seeing relatives sharing pics of weddings, baptisms, Xmas parties, gigs, at the beach etc. We can blame the weather, but surely that’s just deflection from government mishandling
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15/12/2020 18:54:15 16 3
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You’re in denial
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15/12/2020 20:17:44 9 1
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Ever been to Miami? Check their numbers.
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15/12/2020 21:00:56 2 1
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Relevance?
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15/12/2020 21:25:47 6 2
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Oh Jezza, how about you give us some evidence for that nonsense? For a start try looking at the humidity figures in the UK (BBC weather site gives them). So nothing to do with high humidity. The Far East nations have just handled it so much better than us. Hell, just about every country on the planet has handled it better than us.
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15/12/2020 22:53:25 0 1
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Most people are gathering in air conditioned buildings....
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16/12/2020 00:53:51 1 0
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Any excuse to avoid the simple fact of the Governments incompetent, dysfunctional approach to public health from the very start of this crisis. Look up the infection levels in the southern US, Indonesia, any tropical area in fact.
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Totally in keeping with the gross incompetence shown by the Government on pretty much everything.
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15/12/2020 18:28:46 6 34
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Also lovin’ the way the Far Left and the remainers use any bizarre angle to vent their impotent rage.
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15/12/2020 21:06:35 9 2
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What a stupid comment. I am currently on an island that had one new case of COVID reported yesterday out of a population of 87k, yet it was removed from the safe to travel corridor last week. Fine, I’ll book a test for when I get back; almost impossible it seems, as only a handful of providers who have been totally overwhelmed. I guess you believe this government is competent though?
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15/12/2020 18:22:58 25 8
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Probably the most corrupt, inept government in the history of the UK yet with a massive majority. Speaks volumes.
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15/12/2020 18:34:48 20 3
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never say politics has reached a new low

there's always next month
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15/12/2020 20:39:21 1 1
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You mean tomorrow and the day after and the day after that
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15/12/2020 18:35:02 9 3
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This, unfortunately, is what we have become to expect from our world leading government (deliberately lower case) and it's tools(!).
Prue Leith receives 'painless' Covid vaccination. And?
What about my mum of 89 who has been indoors since middle March and can cook anything, including the books, that Prue Leith can.
This is a news story? Really?
FM!
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15/12/2020 18:56:08 2 3
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Has anybody wondered why if this vaccine is so good why it hasn’t been given to our armed forces, police, firemen, GP’s, ??????
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15/12/2020 17:46:16 127 21
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More outsourced testing that has fallen flat on it's face. Way to go Tories!!!!
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15/12/2020 18:36:48 31 53
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As opposed to the insourced Public Health England who've done a Sterling job of everything
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15/12/2020 18:56:10 21 5
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Decisions on lockdowns etc are political decisions made by Cummings and his puppets in government.
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15/12/2020 19:35:49 18 2
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You mean the PHE created by the Cameron government and directly to the minister?
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15/12/2020 21:41:30 4 1
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An organisation created by this government!
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15/12/2020 21:46:39 3 1
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Directed by tories who appointed friends and families to the role. Dido Harding best known for losing millions of customers details in a talk talk hack.
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15/12/2020 22:49:49 2 1
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Let's be clear Tory troll, "in sourced" means work done competently by state agencies.. as opposed to work not done / done incompetently because it has been outsourced to those on that special list of ministers friends and family connections?
In civilized nations that is called corruption and abuse of power.
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15/12/2020 18:34:00 14 53
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high humidity greatly reduces transmission (worse in winter when air is cold and holds less moisture) - look it up then look up Vietnam climate averages
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15/12/2020 18:37:34 25 3
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Proper test, track and trace from January means you don’t have anyone with the virus near your shores. Whilst we are in lockdown I am seeing relatives sharing pics of weddings, baptisms, Xmas parties, gigs, at the beach etc. We can blame the weather, but surely that’s just deflection from government mishandling
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15/12/2020 18:37:40 4 2
bbc
Testing must report results rapidly.

Taking 2-3 days is completely unacceptable. Testing companies should be obliged to give refund if it takes more than (say) 24 hours.
13
15/12/2020 17:54:59 18 4
bbc
The government reducing self isolation to 10 days just before this programme was due to start meant failure.
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15/12/2020 18:38:15 13 8
bbc
If people in this country would actually bother to isolate as required if they had Covid then maybe we wouldn't need all these additional measures. But a lot of people are far too selfish to think of any greater good.
225
15/12/2020 20:33:54 6 2
bbc
Yeah like Cummings!
419
15/12/2020 23:55:50 1 0
bbc
Not everyone has an employer who will pay them when they are isolating.

Q. How can someone isolate if they get no income and they have a family to feed and rent etc to pay?

A. Bojo could find a few more £45,000s to share out with them.....
54
15/12/2020 18:38:25 2 11
bbc
Typical BBC. Can’t see the positive that a programme is in place.

All they can do with their pathetic headlines is ??????????????
60
15/12/2020 18:45:00 7 1
bbc
Clearly a programme is not in place ??
55
15/12/2020 18:40:40 5 3
bbc
World-beating incompetence!
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15/12/2020 18:40:54 10 3
bbc
Travellers? Sorry. Do you mean the lovely people who defiantly walked into local supermarket without masks or social distancing and raised the whole county's covid infection rate to almost lockdown levels. Thereby bringing local supermarket's customer base to a few and almost bankruptcy. Why have they got a special system? Do they not live in the same country as me? Utter disgrace.
228
15/12/2020 20:36:27 0 5
bbc
Please don't start that kind of argument, as has been over killed millions of times and is totally meaningless.

I also suggest you look very carefully at the rules regarding masks, as some people ARE exempt to wearing them due to medical conditions. Just because someone looks like they are breaking the rules DOES NOT mean they do not have any underlying medical conditions.
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15/12/2020 18:42:19 16 3
bbc
Don’t blame the gov, blame the middle man making all the cash for setting it up, there is bound to be one of them. ?? seriously though, another world beating farce from this gov.
58
15/12/2020 18:43:02 15 4
bbc
Is anyone in the least bit surprised? Everything this government touches goes disastrously wrong. They are enthusiastic incompetents - the least desirable people to be making decisions.
61
15/12/2020 18:45:07 11 2
bbc
Oh - and add to that the fracas over Christmas
263
15/12/2020 21:06:15 1 1
bbc
Not sure about the enthusiastic bit.
59
15/12/2020 18:35:17 6 2
bbc
I have spent the day contacting all 11 for my daughter coming home tomorrow for xmas. Halo Verify were confused why they were even on the list as they only work with companies not individuals. Screen 4 and Oncologica (who are actually the same company) ask you to go to one of their centres which are nowhere near me. Axiom, Nationwide Pathology, Medicspot no response. All are over priced
54
15/12/2020 18:38:25 2 11
bbc
Typical BBC. Can’t see the positive that a programme is in place.

All they can do with their pathetic headlines is ??????????????
60
15/12/2020 18:45:00 7 1
bbc
Clearly a programme is not in place ??
58
15/12/2020 18:43:02 15 4
bbc
Is anyone in the least bit surprised? Everything this government touches goes disastrously wrong. They are enthusiastic incompetents - the least desirable people to be making decisions.
61
15/12/2020 18:45:07 11 2
bbc
Oh - and add to that the fracas over Christmas
62
15/12/2020 18:45:26 38 10
bbc
Why are they even allowing people into the country at the moment without 100% proof that they are not infected?

Profit before lives again!
72
15/12/2020 18:49:11 15 7
bbc
here we go again
stop the b'/'// travelling
147
15/12/2020 19:35:51 3 4
bbc
Thank goodness everyone doesn't have your selfish attitude or the travel sector really would be in trouble.
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kkb
15/12/2020 22:21:49 0 3
bbc
And so many of us agree so why can’t the experts see this. You need proof of not having the virus before you get on the plane not once already here
365
15/12/2020 22:52:34 1 1
bbc
"Why are they even allowing people into the country at the moment" ... because most countries are not as badly affected by covid as we are - so really it's more we shouldn't be allowed out. And in other countries arrivals are tracked and have to (HAVE TO) quarantine. We can't even track people arriving in the country :(
33
15/12/2020 18:22:58 25 8
bbc
Probably the most corrupt, inept government in the history of the UK yet with a massive majority. Speaks volumes.
63
15/12/2020 18:36:19 1 5
bbc
be careful what you say...there is such a thing as slander!!
109
15/12/2020 19:14:37 3 1
bbc
he said probably
243
15/12/2020 20:44:55 2 1
bbc
That is not slander when it is the truth, which is what the majority of people always post regarding the highly incompetent government on this website.
37
15/12/2020 18:27:10 95 23
bbc
He should be given a life sentence for the pain he has caused to this good nation.
64
15/12/2020 18:36:59 2 20
bbc
what pain?
27
15/12/2020 18:19:24 4 3
bbc
How can a government make so much red tape for companies and yet never checked to see if they could cope with massive volumes 10's of thousands of people weekly. Everything any government does is always run by a public sector worker who has little to no idea of the real world. Its clearly very important to get back to work so it will be massively popular.
Open it up to large companies immediately.
65
Mil
15/12/2020 18:38:02 3 1
bbc
The NHS is the best example of that by a country mile . Everything in Gov will be closed for Christmas soon probably until the new year so best of luck if you think things will improve quickly .
66
15/12/2020 18:46:48 41 6
bbc
And another fine mess...
This government is an absolute farce.
It’s not just one or two mistakes, mis-communications etc. The only things they are consistently successful at is misleading the public and making u turns.
67
15/12/2020 18:47:19 53 8
bbc
World class, world beating? Yes, world beating MESS
16
15/12/2020 17:59:49 18 6
bbc
Will this excuse for a government ever get something right? How to do things badly and fail seems to be their slogan!
68
15/12/2020 18:40:01 3 15
bbc
Could you do any better? I think not!
92
15/12/2020 19:00:36 6 3
bbc
Anyone with a few scientific braincells can do better than Cummings and his puppets have done. Bozo has ignored scientific advice all the way through
121
15/12/2020 19:21:35 5 2
bbc
Wow fancy that!
Another trump fantasy merchant
211
15/12/2020 20:24:55 4 2
bbc
Do you seriously think this is an acceptable level of service ?
If you went to a restaurant and couldn't order any food would you think that's OK ?
265
15/12/2020 21:06:55 1 2
bbc
Is Popeye PM? When did that happen?
316
15/12/2020 21:54:10 3 1
bbc
Probably anybody with a positive IQ could do better.

Oops, as you said - you couldn't
12
15/12/2020 17:52:06 66 11
bbc
Thoughts of organizing a good drinking session in a brewery come to mind. This testing isn't rocket science. Looking at this, and similar fiascos, what most of us are racking our brains over is how this government can be SO INCOMPETENT. You have to put in real and sustained effort to be THIS BAD. A bunch of primary school kids could probably organize things better.
69
15/12/2020 18:41:48 6 34
bbc
Speak for yourself there DG!!
70
15/12/2020 18:48:05 61 10
bbc
How to win a government contract:

Step 1) Be friends with an MP

Step 2) If not friends with an MP collude with someone who is.

Step 3) Otherwise promise everything for 10p and that it will be complete yesterday, but take your time to deliver...then when you fail to deliver on/in time ask for more money..
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15/12/2020 20:21:12 28 4
bbc
If only step 3 was correct. The cr@p contracts handed out for the likes of PPE were for tens of millions. A lot of it substandard and usable.
I'm getting numb to the incompetence and corruption which is a bit scary as they need to be held to account.
The party of fiscal responsibility - my ar$e
71
15/12/2020 18:48:54 43 5
bbc
Has anything this government has done towards the pandemic actually worked correctly??? Answers on the back of a fag packet
93
15/12/2020 19:00:40 36 4
bbc
Struggle to fill the back of a book of matches never mind a fag packet
62
15/12/2020 18:45:26 38 10
bbc
Why are they even allowing people into the country at the moment without 100% proof that they are not infected?

Profit before lives again!
72
15/12/2020 18:49:11 15 7
bbc
here we go again
stop the b'/'// travelling
79
15/12/2020 18:53:09 4 2
bbc
Yes and include the footballers, don’t think that will happen!
73
15/12/2020 18:49:16 14 3
bbc
And this is why we will never be Great Britain ever again !!
232
15/12/2020 20:38:06 5 3
bbc
Little Britain or is it Little England
74
15/12/2020 18:50:34 2 4
bbc
who is paying for this, not tax payer I hope for someone's s selfish holiday
Stop now its how the china virus started in the first place in Feb
97
15/12/2020 19:04:04 3 3
bbc
The virus was created by scientists in the Wuhan lab (not in some wet market half a mile away). Once it escaped there was nothing anyone could have done to stop its spread. Heaven knows what other similar viruses are sitting in secret labs around the world (including the UK).
21
15/12/2020 18:03:23 46 67
bbc
Boris is not spreading the virus, the idiots called people are doing a fine job. Selfish comes to mind
75
15/12/2020 18:46:06 12 16
bbc
I totally agree with you! The rules are clearly stated, but try to get idiots to obey simple rules is nearly impossible! They just want to blame the government!
76
15/12/2020 18:51:43 16 1
bbc
Please remember, COVID isn’t just for Christmas.
77
15/12/2020 18:52:24 11 3
bbc
There is a diagnostics company in the UK with a gold standard approval from the WHO named "Novacyt" who have everything already in place for testing of various variants of Covid-19. Why are the Government not awarding them contracts?
83
15/12/2020 18:55:40 14 1
bbc
Because they prefer to award contracts to their mates. Such cronyism beggars belief.
269
15/12/2020 21:09:55 2 1
bbc
Sounds a bit Russian to me - so, yeah, why aren't they?
40
15/12/2020 18:30:51 4 8
bbc
This is a failure of private enterprise, not government. A slack handful of ministers do not conduct the test and trace but have to rely on the private sector to do it. The public sector cannot do it as they are otherwise engaged. If you contract a builder to do your conservatory and it is a disaster, does that make you incompetent ?
78
15/12/2020 18:52:35 2 1
bbc
Government bodies award the contracts, they are responsible for conducting due diligence to ensure our taxes are spent wisely. Tax rises are inevitable but will be much worse due to this government’s incompetence.
72
15/12/2020 18:49:11 15 7
bbc
here we go again
stop the b'/'// travelling
79
15/12/2020 18:53:09 4 2
bbc
Yes and include the footballers, don’t think that will happen!
80
15/12/2020 18:53:12 4 2
bbc
If government are involved, you know that the firms doing the work have been selected by someone who if they were any good at what they did, would be earning twice as much doing it in the private sector instead.

You can also be sure that the selected firms primary qualifications are either that they put in an unrealistically cheap bid for the work to win it or have some chums in government.
81
15/12/2020 18:50:04 37 7
bbc
Staggering incompetence yet again
87
15/12/2020 18:56:17 37 4
bbc
From the public point of view maybe. From the friends of MPs who got the contracts a great christmad bonus.
46
15/12/2020 18:34:00 14 53
bbc
high humidity greatly reduces transmission (worse in winter when air is cold and holds less moisture) - look it up then look up Vietnam climate averages
82
15/12/2020 18:54:15 16 3
bbc
You’re in denial
176
15/12/2020 19:56:42 2 2
bbc
Never been anywhere near Egypt.
77
15/12/2020 18:52:24 11 3
bbc
There is a diagnostics company in the UK with a gold standard approval from the WHO named "Novacyt" who have everything already in place for testing of various variants of Covid-19. Why are the Government not awarding them contracts?
83
15/12/2020 18:55:40 14 1
bbc
Because they prefer to award contracts to their mates. Such cronyism beggars belief.
206
15/12/2020 20:22:01 3 2
bbc
It is also due to the highly corrupted "old boy network," which is 100% rife in the current government.
84
15/12/2020 18:55:46 0 1
bbc
Shut up!
49
15/12/2020 18:35:02 9 3
bbc
This, unfortunately, is what we have become to expect from our world leading government (deliberately lower case) and it's tools(!).
Prue Leith receives 'painless' Covid vaccination. And?
What about my mum of 89 who has been indoors since middle March and can cook anything, including the books, that Prue Leith can.
This is a news story? Really?
FM!
85
15/12/2020 18:56:08 2 3
bbc
Has anybody wondered why if this vaccine is so good why it hasn’t been given to our armed forces, police, firemen, GP’s, ??????
139
15/12/2020 19:32:46 3 1
bbc
Because they will not be at significant risk. The vast majority of people under the age of 70 will only have a minor illness, so it would be pointless in vaccinating people who don't really need it.
273
15/12/2020 21:12:07 0 1
bbc
Too young.
50
15/12/2020 18:36:48 31 53
bbc
As opposed to the insourced Public Health England who've done a Sterling job of everything
86
15/12/2020 18:56:10 21 5
bbc
Decisions on lockdowns etc are political decisions made by Cummings and his puppets in government.
81
15/12/2020 18:50:04 37 7
bbc
Staggering incompetence yet again
87
15/12/2020 18:56:17 37 4
bbc
From the public point of view maybe. From the friends of MPs who got the contracts a great christmad bonus.
88
15/12/2020 18:52:43 9 2
bbc
Unbelievable incompetence by all those involved in the launch of the Test to Release scheme. They've made it extremely difficult for people to opt into the scheme on the Passenger Locator Form if they can't book a test with one of the 11 private test providers before they travel to England. Hopefully the Government will add more private test providers.
36
15/12/2020 18:26:13 14 4
bbc
Best of luck trying to get travellers to abide by any rules and regulations
89
15/12/2020 18:57:52 9 4
bbc
I will abide by any rules if I can get out of this god forsaken hole of a country run by a ship of fools!
103
15/12/2020 19:11:34 4 1
bbc
I'm working on it just passed my TEFL course. SE Asia here I come... hopefully
90
15/12/2020 18:59:57 2 2
bbc
Boots sell a 20 minute test for £120

i could be mistaken but is there not a boots store at every major UK Airport ?
194
15/12/2020 20:16:19 1 1
bbc
£120.00 is absolute robbery, and Boots are only doing tests to boost their profits. The tests should be free, and Boots should claim the money back from the NHS.
91
15/12/2020 18:59:59 16 1
bbc
"World beating" trade deal next. ??
68
15/12/2020 18:40:01 3 15
bbc
Could you do any better? I think not!
92
15/12/2020 19:00:36 6 3
bbc
Anyone with a few scientific braincells can do better than Cummings and his puppets have done. Bozo has ignored scientific advice all the way through
71
15/12/2020 18:48:54 43 5
bbc
Has anything this government has done towards the pandemic actually worked correctly??? Answers on the back of a fag packet
93
15/12/2020 19:00:40 36 4
bbc
Struggle to fill the back of a book of matches never mind a fag packet
209
15/12/2020 20:24:12 3 2
bbc
Or more appropriately on a postage stamp.
94
15/12/2020 19:02:16 10 3
bbc
This goes to show that today’s headlines will be next weeks oversells. A failure to plan or think up a coherent policy beyond the sound bites must haunt this inept government. Promise so much (normally with a slogan) and then deliver nothing
12
15/12/2020 17:52:06 66 11
bbc
Thoughts of organizing a good drinking session in a brewery come to mind. This testing isn't rocket science. Looking at this, and similar fiascos, what most of us are racking our brains over is how this government can be SO INCOMPETENT. You have to put in real and sustained effort to be THIS BAD. A bunch of primary school kids could probably organize things better.
95
15/12/2020 19:02:46 8 2
bbc
Yep. With the possible exception of the furlough scheme (although u turns and several attempts to get it right), most of their decisions have been disastrous and it seems it is carrying on.
217
15/12/2020 20:29:37 4 3
bbc
Furlough is just a way to keep the unemployment figures down so the government don't look so bad and to give time to the DWP to recruit a train sufficient staff on Universal Credit to deal with the disaster to come next year
96
15/12/2020 19:03:44 9 2
bbc
I'm a British student abroad, returning this week, and I can't get a test as all the options are sold out. If I can't get one I'll be in quarantine for Christmas, which of course defeats the entire point of coming home. Other countries offer tests for travel for free, on their national health services.
100
15/12/2020 19:05:41 4 9
bbc
Hang on there we will change everything just for you !!
132
15/12/2020 19:29:32 3 1
bbc
Bloody well stay abroad!!
204
15/12/2020 20:20:35 2 1
bbc
Yes, but this government priority is lining the pockets of their mates - like the 122Million unused ppe given to a company who didn't even exist two days earlier
230
15/12/2020 20:37:02 2 1
bbc
But the UK government is in the process of selling of the health service
74
15/12/2020 18:50:34 2 4
bbc
who is paying for this, not tax payer I hope for someone's s selfish holiday
Stop now its how the china virus started in the first place in Feb
97
15/12/2020 19:04:04 3 3
bbc
The virus was created by scientists in the Wuhan lab (not in some wet market half a mile away). Once it escaped there was nothing anyone could have done to stop its spread. Heaven knows what other similar viruses are sitting in secret labs around the world (including the UK).
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15/12/2020 19:19:02 1 1
bbc
More likely planted by ...??..??
98
15/12/2020 19:04:21 6 2
bbc
Overwhelmed? I thought the airlines were moaning they didn't have any passengers.
142
15/12/2020 19:33:23 2 1
bbc
They are.
99
15/12/2020 19:05:32 16 2
bbc
Its Monty Pythons Flying Circus....

google it young guns...
96
15/12/2020 19:03:44 9 2
bbc
I'm a British student abroad, returning this week, and I can't get a test as all the options are sold out. If I can't get one I'll be in quarantine for Christmas, which of course defeats the entire point of coming home. Other countries offer tests for travel for free, on their national health services.
100
15/12/2020 19:05:41 4 9
bbc
Hang on there we will change everything just for you !!
143
15/12/2020 19:33:46 1 2
bbc
Johnson did for Cummings...