Hospitality worst-hit as unemployment rises again
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UK loses 819,000 paid jobs since start of pandemic, with a third of the cuts in hospitality.
Some pubs have been ok, however most just cannot and do not control their patrons at all, sorry but you must close, end of.
My thoughts and prayers go to anyone who has lost a loved one and/or their job due to covid
Please keep your chins up; life will get better again
Thank you to all front line NHS staff and supermarket staff; we wouldn't have managed this far, with out you. Especially the pickers and drivers in my case.
Merry Christmas
Here's hoping for a brighter 2021
Please keep your chins up; life will get better again
Thank you to all front line NHS staff and supermarket staff; we wouldn't have managed this far, with out you. Especially the pickers and drivers in my case.
Merry Christmas
Here's hoping for a brighter 2021
Unfortunately it will be a race to the bottom especially in the tech sector as even those who upskill in those areas will find their work done cheaper abroad. A solution which has been lacking for decades is to invest more in manufacturing !!!
In principle yes but we’re about to suffer tarriffs on our exports due to some political stupidity
Which manufacturing exactly?
And I assume you are aware we are still the 9th largest manufacturing country in the world?
Also, modern manufacturing is machinery intensive and employs fewer people..
And I assume you are aware we are still the 9th largest manufacturing country in the world?
Also, modern manufacturing is machinery intensive and employs fewer people..
Pubs & restaurants have been made a scapegoat in the pandemic there is absolutely no proof of that the virus is spread from there. No matter where you go everybody breaths so you can pick up the virus anywhere. Obviously, sunak should pick up the tab if people are losing their jobs.
If lockdown and tiers do not work, not because of the rules they impose but rather people's ignorance of them, then what is the solution?
Now they're beginning to roll out the vaccine is there an argument to just not bother, because the rules are being ignored, infections are rising and hospitality is being battered in any event?
Those who want to take the risk can.
Now they're beginning to roll out the vaccine is there an argument to just not bother, because the rules are being ignored, infections are rising and hospitality is being battered in any event?
Those who want to take the risk can.
good news - maybe these people can get more productive meaningful work rather than just taking ppl's money to give them food n drinks
fun rides/theme parks - total waste of money and human capital
massage parlours - they are ok bcos a good massage can help reduce DVT
fun rides/theme parks - total waste of money and human capital
massage parlours - they are ok bcos a good massage can help reduce DVT
Annelise Dodds is wrong to say Rishi Sunak's decisions have caused major job losses - its our economy's skew to the retail and hospitality sectors, an issue successive governments have overseen.
Especially new Labour who ignored kids who didn’t want to go to university.
Your pretty much correct. Hospitality takes many forms. For example hotels and tourist attractions will largely fully recover, and make money for Britain. But there is an excess of cheap food and drink outlets and shops whose trade has been taken by supermarkets, online and the poor pay of consumers. Some are a form of underemployment since they attract people who can’t get a safe job in a factory
The furlough scheme needs to end. Much as its laudable to try to save every job, a lot of these jobs aren't coming back. In the pub trade a large proportion of these bars would be shut in 12 months anyway as new concepts come in and out of fashion. Trying to save each and every one of them is nonsense. End the furlough scheme at the end of March and let us get on with paying off the debt
Pubs in many places were not going out of “fashion” prior to covid
End furlough? - No, I won't have it. Why stop something that will cost the taxpayer 4x the cost of benefits?
I would suggest many of these businesses are viable or the owners would have already thrown in the towel. The night time industry in the country for example is worth over 13 billion, do we throw that away and put all employees on universal credit?
When you build an economy on the EU cafe model its hardly surprising those are the first jobs to go ... our local council (Labour) still follows this ideal ... restricting parking to extend pavements to create more outside eating. It ignores the businesses who have been resident for decades providing jobs but don't fit the local councillors vision of a cafe culture ... in Birmingham for gods sake
When I've come back up the M5, Brums Cafe Culture is the first thing I see, vibrant pulling folks in from all over. It's the last thing you want to see go........?
Have you ever made an HYS comment that doesn’t whine about the EU?
In your indecent haste to blame anything you can on the EU, you’re missing a very important fact.
Most jobs in hospitality are in our Great British pubs, nothing to do with “EU cafe culture”.
Perhaps you can consider them before you make yet another cheap jibe.
In your indecent haste to blame anything you can on the EU, you’re missing a very important fact.
Most jobs in hospitality are in our Great British pubs, nothing to do with “EU cafe culture”.
Perhaps you can consider them before you make yet another cheap jibe.
Wait until the big lockdown which is coming, possibly the whole of January, would not surprise if February gets included, winter is the big danger period for the NHS, interment of the population is the live option for most of the season.
By all means extend the furlough scheme, but only for viable jobs. If the job is not still in place at the end of 2021, all money should be paid back.
Some jobs are viable by the end of 2021 and some by 2025 when everything returns to pre-pandemic conditions. Too many chiefs offload the braves without a care for the skills lost. It is hard in the race to the bottom without much af a safety net (JSA/UC/ESA) and the automation of many things coming rapidly over the hill as cost savings to large corporations.
In Germany they closed hospitality for 2 months bars restaurants clubs hotels and the infections went up and so did the death rate
And they now have hard lockdown as it did not work.
But lot people in hospitality who worked 40 Christmas days new years eves every weekend bank holiday won't be 2nd class citizens now they be able spend Christmas with there family for once instead working.
And they now have hard lockdown as it did not work.
But lot people in hospitality who worked 40 Christmas days new years eves every weekend bank holiday won't be 2nd class citizens now they be able spend Christmas with there family for once instead working.
2nd class citizen my foot. If you take a job in hospitality, you know full well it comes with poor working hours.
It's also not easy to have a great Christmas if you get laid off in October and there's no realistic chance of you finding alternative employment.
It's also not easy to have a great Christmas if you get laid off in October and there's no realistic chance of you finding alternative employment.
When you build an economy on the EU cafe model its hardly surprising those are the first jobs to go ... our local council (Labour) still follows this ideal ... restricting parking to extend pavements to create more outside eating. It ignores the businesses who have been resident for decades providing jobs but don't fit the local councillors vision of a cafe culture ... in Birmingham for gods sake
Back in May, I attended a presentation by the Bank of England that said unemployment would hit 9%; unfortunately, that is looking like an under-estimate. January is traditionally bad for bricks and mortar shops and when furlough ends on March 31st...sadly, things are going to get worse before they get better.
The furlough scheme needs to end. Much as its laudable to try to save every job, a lot of these jobs aren't coming back. In the pub trade a large proportion of these bars would be shut in 12 months anyway as new concepts come in and out of fashion. Trying to save each and every one of them is nonsense. End the furlough scheme at the end of March and let us get on with paying off the debt
A few weeks ago in Australia, they had a rise in Corona Virus
By the evening they had a full lockdown for 6 days
Back up and running and getting on with life
Here the government sat on their hands for 5 weeks, waffled some rubbish, made a rule about scotch eggs, waited until the virus had spread beyond control and ruined everything.
It's simple stuff.
By the evening they had a full lockdown for 6 days
Back up and running and getting on with life
Here the government sat on their hands for 5 weeks, waffled some rubbish, made a rule about scotch eggs, waited until the virus had spread beyond control and ruined everything.
It's simple stuff.
In Germany they closed hospitality for 2 months bars restaurants clubs hotels and the infections went up and so did the death rate
And they now have hard lockdown as it did not work.
But lot people in hospitality who worked 40 Christmas days new years eves every weekend bank holiday won't be 2nd class citizens now they be able spend Christmas with there family for once instead working.
And they now have hard lockdown as it did not work.
But lot people in hospitality who worked 40 Christmas days new years eves every weekend bank holiday won't be 2nd class citizens now they be able spend Christmas with there family for once instead working.
So when it peaks it will be just above France's current rate (ie France rate has been that high forever, whereas we might just peak around their normal rate...).
The effect this industry has been catastrophic. It will be almost wiped out, many will not survive or come back. Get a grip Boris. Stop just listening to scientists. When the dust settles, this way the health academics caused this reaction/the lockdowns will be proven to be a major error. Never let them near the tiller or power again. They are scientists with no business/economic sense. Disaster!
Don't be stupid - as long as people need to eat the industry will survive - whoever's name is above the entrance
Hopefully. People might stop the stupid behavoir eating and drinking out at silly prices. The useless sector is always replacing itself, every fool sees it as a easy business. Loads close, plenty replace them.
I hope none of your family die of Covid.
If anyone is finding this surprising, WHY?
It’s sad, but that’s the system, no customers, no business. No business no employment.
The model is broken, a new model will be made, adapt and survive, don’t and .........
It’s sad, but that’s the system, no customers, no business. No business no employment.
The model is broken, a new model will be made, adapt and survive, don’t and .........
2nd class citizen my foot. If you take a job in hospitality, you know full well it comes with poor working hours.
It's also not easy to have a great Christmas if you get laid off in October and there's no realistic chance of you finding alternative employment.
It's also not easy to have a great Christmas if you get laid off in October and there's no realistic chance of you finding alternative employment.
The effect this industry has been catastrophic. It will be almost wiped out, many will not survive or come back. Get a grip Boris. Stop just listening to scientists. When the dust settles, this way the health academics caused this reaction/the lockdowns will be proven to be a major error. Never let them near the tiller or power again. They are scientists with no business/economic sense. Disaster!
Annelise Dodds is wrong to say Rishi Sunak's decisions have caused major job losses - its our economy's skew to the retail and hospitality sectors, an issue successive governments have overseen.
Labour need ppl to be poor to get votes whereas the tories need ppl to be working and home owning
How long did it take before the Tories cut the EMA across England?
And what about all the extra social structures that disappeared under austerity?
While I agree with Robinhood09, I'm also certain that you're being more than a little selective when it comes to whether Labour or the Tories supported youngsters the most, heck I'd go as far as to say that you're deliberately talking tosh??
And what about all the extra social structures that disappeared under austerity?
While I agree with Robinhood09, I'm also certain that you're being more than a little selective when it comes to whether Labour or the Tories supported youngsters the most, heck I'd go as far as to say that you're deliberately talking tosh??
These businesses are also responsible for fuelling millions of zero-hours contracts, meaning they can just let people go at the drop of a hat instead of having the normal rights of full-time employees.
I haven't had a single penny of assistance from any source since this all started. Me and millions of others. The inequality in the treatment of the unemployed will no doubt be the subject of an enquiry in the future. You can't eat and enquiry though can you?
Why would the unemployed get more hand outs? They take various benefits anyway. Sat pretty though corvid.
The effect this industry has been catastrophic. It will be almost wiped out, many will not survive or come back. Get a grip Boris. Stop just listening to scientists. When the dust settles, this way the health academics caused this reaction/the lockdowns will be proven to be a major error. Never let them near the tiller or power again. They are scientists with no business/economic sense. Disaster!
Back in May, I attended a presentation by the Bank of England that said unemployment would hit 9%; unfortunately, that is looking like an under-estimate. January is traditionally bad for bricks and mortar shops and when furlough ends on March 31st...sadly, things are going to get worse before they get better.
The furlough scheme needs to end. Much as its laudable to try to save every job, a lot of these jobs aren't coming back. In the pub trade a large proportion of these bars would be shut in 12 months anyway as new concepts come in and out of fashion. Trying to save each and every one of them is nonsense. End the furlough scheme at the end of March and let us get on with paying off the debt
Pubs & restaurants have been made a scapegoat in the pandemic there is absolutely no proof of that the virus is spread from there. No matter where you go everybody breaths so you can pick up the virus anywhere. Obviously, sunak should pick up the tab if people are losing their jobs.
My thoughts and prayers go to anyone who has lost a loved one and/or their job due to covid
Please keep your chins up; life will get better again
Thank you to all front line NHS staff and supermarket staff; we wouldn't have managed this far, with out you. Especially the pickers and drivers in my case.
Merry Christmas
Here's hoping for a brighter 2021
Please keep your chins up; life will get better again
Thank you to all front line NHS staff and supermarket staff; we wouldn't have managed this far, with out you. Especially the pickers and drivers in my case.
Merry Christmas
Here's hoping for a brighter 2021
If lockdown and tiers do not work, not because of the rules they impose but rather people's ignorance of them, then what is the solution?
Now they're beginning to roll out the vaccine is there an argument to just not bother, because the rules are being ignored, infections are rising and hospitality is being battered in any event?
Those who want to take the risk can.
Now they're beginning to roll out the vaccine is there an argument to just not bother, because the rules are being ignored, infections are rising and hospitality is being battered in any event?
Those who want to take the risk can.
good news - maybe these people can get more productive meaningful work rather than just taking ppl's money to give them food n drinks
fun rides/theme parks - total waste of money and human capital
massage parlours - they are ok bcos a good massage can help reduce DVT
fun rides/theme parks - total waste of money and human capital
massage parlours - they are ok bcos a good massage can help reduce DVT
Sooner machines take over the tough task of pouring a drink or warming a bit of food the better. Daft people that eat and drink out paying through the nose will still be ripped off for their stupidity. Time people found more worthwhile occupations.
You don’t get out much do you?
Thank goodness.
Thank goodness.
I haven't had a single penny of assistance from any source since this all started. Me and millions of others. The inequality in the treatment of the unemployed will no doubt be the subject of an enquiry in the future. You can't eat and enquiry though can you?
As have pensioners
The effect this industry has been catastrophic. It will be almost wiped out, many will not survive or come back. Get a grip Boris. Stop just listening to scientists. When the dust settles, this way the health academics caused this reaction/the lockdowns will be proven to be a major error. Never let them near the tiller or power again. They are scientists with no business/economic sense. Disaster!
The effect this industry has been catastrophic. It will be almost wiped out, many will not survive or come back. Get a grip Boris. Stop just listening to scientists. When the dust settles, this way the health academics caused this reaction/the lockdowns will be proven to be a major error. Never let them near the tiller or power again. They are scientists with no business/economic sense. Disaster!
Top rated comment ....
Annaleise Dodds blame sunak decisions for unemployment.
I think there might be another reason......Google what’s happened this year...
And they wonder why they can’t get elected.....
Annaleise Dodds blame sunak decisions for unemployment.
I think there might be another reason......Google what’s happened this year...
And they wonder why they can’t get elected.....
While it would be fair to say the actual cabinet's performance could have been much better, can anyone honestly say the shadow cabinet have been better than the lamentably low bar that has been set?
30 restaurants/pubs open in the high street. High fixed costs (rent) and income subject to footfall.
So amongst these 30; what are the differentiators, business model, and USP?
So amongst these 30; what are the differentiators, business model, and USP?
Why would the unemployed get more hand outs? They take various benefits anyway. Sat pretty though corvid.
So the government pilloried the hospitality sector, blaming it for the ever increasing rates of infection, yet the infection rate erupted once the schools, colleges & universities were reopened. It doesn’t take a Sage scientific advisor to work this out, but still the government insists on hammering more nails into the hospitality coffin lid, now they’re thinking of cancelling Christmas.
This story would be greatly illuminated by a graph of the unemployment rate over the last 10-15 years.......
If the predicted rate will peak at 9.7%, how does that compare to the financial crash?
If the predicted rate will peak at 9.7%, how does that compare to the financial crash?
I think most people would struggle to name more than a couple of members of the shadow cabinet, they have been so invisible
Well you can’t say, no one can, so just concentrate on what is really happening and comment on that not shouldwouldacoulda.
Even with the benefit of hindsight, they've been nothing but useless.
Main cause of the rise in infections and deaths have little to no relation with the hospitality industry who have done eveything they could have been expected to in order to provide safer environments for their customers.The way they have been treated (and the public) is a disgrace.The Government is a disgrace.Hopefully the voters will remember at the next GE. BoJo will of course be gone already.
Some jobs are viable by the end of 2021 and some by 2025 when everything returns to pre-pandemic conditions. Too many chiefs offload the braves without a care for the skills lost. It is hard in the race to the bottom without much af a safety net (JSA/UC/ESA) and the automation of many things coming rapidly over the hill as cost savings to large corporations.
Main cause of the rise in infections and deaths have little to no relation with the hospitality industry who have done eveything they could have been expected to in order to provide safer environments for their customers.The way they have been treated (and the public) is a disgrace.The Government is a disgrace.Hopefully the voters will remember at the next GE. BoJo will of course be gone already.
Good name for a band.
Since the 80s our dobernam3nts labour or Tory have transformed this country in a big shopping centre and restaurant... completely unbalanced economy that rely on massive imports from east Europe and China. Anybody surprised why we had one if the worse recessions when china prosper using forced labour? We are asked to play fair when seem the other have been playing dirty for years. Time to change
Yes, those dobernam3nts have got a lot of questions to answer.
If only we knew what they actually are.
If only we knew what they actually are.
As have pensioners
Nah, it’s treated as a benefit. Doesn’t matter what you say you’ve paid in, it’s not a right it’s a benefit.
The effect this industry has been catastrophic. It will be almost wiped out, many will not survive or come back. Get a grip Boris. Stop just listening to scientists. When the dust settles, this way the health academics caused this reaction/the lockdowns will be proven to be a major error. Never let them near the tiller or power again. They are scientists with no business/economic sense. Disaster!
@Hatanaka Hacker
"how does that compare to the financial crash?"
Unemployment caused by this global pandemic that is hitting all major economies badly, is just a little worse than the Labour-induced crash under Brown.
However, unlike Brown's incompetence, the forecasters are predicting we will bounce back pretty quickly.
Really hard luck that some are out of work, but briefly at least this time
"how does that compare to the financial crash?"
Unemployment caused by this global pandemic that is hitting all major economies badly, is just a little worse than the Labour-induced crash under Brown.
However, unlike Brown's incompetence, the forecasters are predicting we will bounce back pretty quickly.
Really hard luck that some are out of work, but briefly at least this time
“Labour induced crash”
Haha - you’re not flogging that old completely-debunked horse?
Using your infantile logic, let’s talk about the Tory-induced coronavirus pandemic.
Haha - you’re not flogging that old completely-debunked horse?
Using your infantile logic, let’s talk about the Tory-induced coronavirus pandemic.
If only there was a law banning people from peddling easily proven lies, you'd never be allowed online again
Every international financial institution on earth stated that Brown's plan for recovery was the best of any world leader
The unfortunate thing was that millions of people fell for the barefaced lie you and others continue to peddle, with Tory austerity stagnating the nation ever since
Every international financial institution on earth stated that Brown's plan for recovery was the best of any world leader
The unfortunate thing was that millions of people fell for the barefaced lie you and others continue to peddle, with Tory austerity stagnating the nation ever since
Utter madness to destroy the economy, put hundreds of thousands on the dole, thousands more dying of untreated cancers etc for a virus which has an average mortality age of 82.4. The UK’s average life expectancy is only 81.5 for god’s sake.
Shame you’re not in your 80s then
Party line jingoistic nonsense on these comments
Let’s face facts
We did worse than majority during financial crash because our economy has that bias
We will do worse in the covid crisis because we are a service/hospitality bias
But please let’s not forget Bozzo and Cummins - payrise whilst Rome burnt
Let’s face facts
We did worse than majority during financial crash because our economy has that bias
We will do worse in the covid crisis because we are a service/hospitality bias
But please let’s not forget Bozzo and Cummins - payrise whilst Rome burnt
Utter madness to destroy the economy, put hundreds of thousands on the dole, thousands more dying of untreated cancers etc for a virus which has an average mortality age of 82.4. The UK’s average life expectancy is only 81.5 for god’s sake.
Like you?
I spoke to a friend at a company I used to work for and they have made several people redundant despite the fact that the company has done well this year and has exceeded its budget. They were let go due to furlough and the fact that it identified that the company was able to perfectly function well without them.
"identified that the company was able to perfectly function well without them"
Great, then.
Oh, I see you think that the co. must employ people it doesn't actually need, because .....
... nope, still don't understand
Besides, if not needed, probably deadwood, anyway. Kinder in the long run, they can get a job where they can actually do something useful.
Great, then.
Oh, I see you think that the co. must employ people it doesn't actually need, because .....
... nope, still don't understand
Besides, if not needed, probably deadwood, anyway. Kinder in the long run, they can get a job where they can actually do something useful.
Shame you’re not in your 80s then
While it would be fair to say the actual cabinet's performance could have been much better, can anyone honestly say the shadow cabinet have been better than the lamentably low bar that has been set?
@Hatanaka Hacker
"how does that compare to the financial crash?"
Unemployment caused by this global pandemic that is hitting all major economies badly, is just a little worse than the Labour-induced crash under Brown.
However, unlike Brown's incompetence, the forecasters are predicting we will bounce back pretty quickly.
Really hard luck that some are out of work, but briefly at least this time
"how does that compare to the financial crash?"
Unemployment caused by this global pandemic that is hitting all major economies badly, is just a little worse than the Labour-induced crash under Brown.
However, unlike Brown's incompetence, the forecasters are predicting we will bounce back pretty quickly.
Really hard luck that some are out of work, but briefly at least this time
I spoke to a friend at a company I used to work for and they have made several people redundant despite the fact that the company has done well this year and has exceeded its budget. They were let go due to furlough and the fact that it identified that the company was able to perfectly function well without them.
"identified that the company was able to perfectly function well without them"
Great, then.
Oh, I see you think that the co. must employ people it doesn't actually need, because .....
... nope, still don't understand
Besides, if not needed, probably deadwood, anyway. Kinder in the long run, they can get a job where they can actually do something useful.
Great, then.
Oh, I see you think that the co. must employ people it doesn't actually need, because .....
... nope, still don't understand
Besides, if not needed, probably deadwood, anyway. Kinder in the long run, they can get a job where they can actually do something useful.
When you build an economy on the EU cafe model its hardly surprising those are the first jobs to go ... our local council (Labour) still follows this ideal ... restricting parking to extend pavements to create more outside eating. It ignores the businesses who have been resident for decades providing jobs but don't fit the local councillors vision of a cafe culture ... in Birmingham for gods sake
Have you ever made an HYS comment that doesn’t whine about the EU?
In your indecent haste to blame anything you can on the EU, you’re missing a very important fact.
Most jobs in hospitality are in our Great British pubs, nothing to do with “EU cafe culture”.
Perhaps you can consider them before you make yet another cheap jibe.
In your indecent haste to blame anything you can on the EU, you’re missing a very important fact.
Most jobs in hospitality are in our Great British pubs, nothing to do with “EU cafe culture”.
Perhaps you can consider them before you make yet another cheap jibe.
Since the 80s our dobernam3nts labour or Tory have transformed this country in a big shopping centre and restaurant... completely unbalanced economy that rely on massive imports from east Europe and China. Anybody surprised why we had one if the worse recessions when china prosper using forced labour? We are asked to play fair when seem the other have been playing dirty for years. Time to change
Sooner machines take over the tough task of pouring a drink or warming a bit of food the better. Daft people that eat and drink out paying through the nose will still be ripped off for their stupidity. Time people found more worthwhile occupations.
People can live for a few months without Pubs and Restaurants but may not live with Covid
Rubbish.
A pub is the last thing I need right now. What? Sitting there furtively casting around to see who might infect me and worrying about visiting the toilet. You’d need to be pissed to enter.
If you don't want to go jut stay away - and allow those who so to get on with their lives.
"identified that the company was able to perfectly function well without them"
Great, then.
Oh, I see you think that the co. must employ people it doesn't actually need, because .....
... nope, still don't understand
Besides, if not needed, probably deadwood, anyway. Kinder in the long run, they can get a job where they can actually do something useful.
Great, then.
Oh, I see you think that the co. must employ people it doesn't actually need, because .....
... nope, still don't understand
Besides, if not needed, probably deadwood, anyway. Kinder in the long run, they can get a job where they can actually do something useful.
While it would be fair to say the actual cabinet's performance could have been much better, can anyone honestly say the shadow cabinet have been better than the lamentably low bar that has been set?
"identified that the company was able to perfectly function well without them"
Great, then.
Oh, I see you think that the co. must employ people it doesn't actually need, because .....
... nope, still don't understand
Besides, if not needed, probably deadwood, anyway. Kinder in the long run, they can get a job where they can actually do something useful.
Great, then.
Oh, I see you think that the co. must employ people it doesn't actually need, because .....
... nope, still don't understand
Besides, if not needed, probably deadwood, anyway. Kinder in the long run, they can get a job where they can actually do something useful.
I would say considering the year we had, 800K is not as bad as it could have been. I will say as a businessman, that many companies have looked at how they operate and many have become much more efficient. Many businesses were overstaffed, many employees did not make a contribution. Once vaccinated, hospitality will start coming back.
The industry that relies on socialising.
There is nothing wrong with socialising, virus or no virus.
The industry that relies on socialising.
A pub is the last thing I need right now. What? Sitting there furtively casting around to see who might infect me and worrying about visiting the toilet. You’d need to be pissed to enter.
This should be seen as an opportunity, not a disaster. It's an opportunity to give the elderly, adult and disabled care sectors (not to mention agriculture) the much needed injection of manpower they've been crying out for for decades through retraining schemes.
If even half the effort we use in bemoaning the unjust plight of minorities was put into useful work then what a nation we could be!
If even half the effort we use in bemoaning the unjust plight of minorities was put into useful work then what a nation we could be!
The worst is yet to come, we have never before shut down the country for a flu virus, we now have a debt larger than GDP, blaming the hospitality sector for everything, when it's patently obvious that the drivers for infection, are schools, universities et al and hospitals; to all of you hiding under the bed, your future is written; jobless, homeless and futureless shouldn't have believed the lies
The furlough scheme needs to end. Much as its laudable to try to save every job, a lot of these jobs aren't coming back. In the pub trade a large proportion of these bars would be shut in 12 months anyway as new concepts come in and out of fashion. Trying to save each and every one of them is nonsense. End the furlough scheme at the end of March and let us get on with paying off the debt
History UK Wool industry gone,biggest world ship building gone,motocycles/car manufacturing,coal mining, tin mining gone,electro magnetics sold to Japan trains now running on it,Steel,textiles,all lost because of change.As for hospitality it will go the same way,sandwich makers, tea/coffee servers,pubs thousands have shut.Look at Tesco's Extra stores just dead ducks,convenient stores the in thing
The UK government has no plans to manage the economy with COVID and the inconsistent approach with no direct action means the economic impact will be longer and harsher then elsewhere. Simple solution is harsh lockdown 8 weeks with solid support for business/people. Followed by pump funded capital investment and borders controlled to re-establish local economy and prevent an extra COVID wave
Unemployment is about who you talk to ,1982 was 14% unemployed,1984 11.9%,unemployed,far off from todays numbers of 4.9%,1990 house mortgage 17.5% and they got it hard what laugh ,propaganda by the buckets full
I'm on Zero Hours and haven't had a shift in months yet I'm still classed as "Employed", there are a lot of "Employed" people in insecure jobs. House prices were also a lot cheaper in 1990.
Prices were cheaper but wages were lower. Over 50% of my income went on paying for the mortgage. In other words I was broke and struggling to buy food and pay for other necessities.
If (and it is a BIG IF) Boris and his government had locked the country down at the start of things, and like NZ, stopped all flights in and out of the country unless you went into a controlled location for isolation, the UK and the economy wouldn't be in the pickle it is in now.
Perhaps in less of a pickle but it would still be in trouble. The sick joke in all this is that the only country not suffering badly is China. Life sucks.
The worst of the pandemic hasn't hit us yet where employment is concerned, there are 10s of 1000s of businesses, including massive employers, who have been on the brink of closure for some time
If/when the country goes back into one form of lockdown or another after Christmas, they'll start to close permanently, it's highly likely that by Easter we'll see the number of jobs lost this year, double
If/when the country goes back into one form of lockdown or another after Christmas, they'll start to close permanently, it's highly likely that by Easter we'll see the number of jobs lost this year, double
If (and it is a BIG IF) Boris and his government had locked the country down at the start of things, and like NZ, stopped all flights in and out of the country unless you went into a controlled location for isolation, the UK and the economy wouldn't be in the pickle it is in now.
@Hatanaka Hacker
"how does that compare to the financial crash?"
Unemployment caused by this global pandemic that is hitting all major economies badly, is just a little worse than the Labour-induced crash under Brown.
However, unlike Brown's incompetence, the forecasters are predicting we will bounce back pretty quickly.
Really hard luck that some are out of work, but briefly at least this time
"how does that compare to the financial crash?"
Unemployment caused by this global pandemic that is hitting all major economies badly, is just a little worse than the Labour-induced crash under Brown.
However, unlike Brown's incompetence, the forecasters are predicting we will bounce back pretty quickly.
Really hard luck that some are out of work, but briefly at least this time
If only there was a law banning people from peddling easily proven lies, you'd never be allowed online again
Every international financial institution on earth stated that Brown's plan for recovery was the best of any world leader
The unfortunate thing was that millions of people fell for the barefaced lie you and others continue to peddle, with Tory austerity stagnating the nation ever since
Every international financial institution on earth stated that Brown's plan for recovery was the best of any world leader
The unfortunate thing was that millions of people fell for the barefaced lie you and others continue to peddle, with Tory austerity stagnating the nation ever since
I'm on Zero Hours and haven't had a shift in months yet I'm still classed as "Employed", there are a lot of "Employed" people in insecure jobs. House prices were also a lot cheaper in 1990.
Simple choice for the electorate.
Decide is our Economy for the generation of wealth for the elite?
Or
Is our Economy for the well being of society as a whole?
Decide is our Economy for the generation of wealth for the elite?
Or
Is our Economy for the well being of society as a whole?
We elected dishonest greedy hypocritical BrexitSpivs.........
Clearly those questions weren’t at the forefront of peoples’ minds.....
Corbyn and the fishies, take a bow.
Clearly those questions weren’t at the forefront of peoples’ minds.....
Corbyn and the fishies, take a bow.
Prices were cheaper but wages were lower. Over 50% of my income went on paying for the mortgage. In other words I was broke and struggling to buy food and pay for other necessities.
Maggie liked to run with 4 million out of work, Norman told us get on your bike and look for work. Smashing lot..... its in the DNA.