Low-paid workers face pandemic 'double whammy'
15/12/2020 | news | business | 188
The Commission on Workers and Technology says the pandemic has accelerated the automation of low paid work.
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15/12/2020 10:36:29 12 11
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Many governments around the world faced the same as ours yet did much, much better.

Sadly, people defend our govt's poor reaction with deflection, arguing "yeah, well they did better than *insert country*" which makes as much sense as "my house is on fire but my neighbour's is more on fire so I'm fine".

Our govt has unnecessarily let down far too many people and must be held to account.
and so many did much much worse, try Wales & Scotland for starters. SAGE & Ferguson & Imperial need kicking up the a*** too. We have a global elite, all of whom, oddly enough, can 'bubble' together next year in Singapore, rather than Davos - covid only attacks us plebs it seems, got to keep us all locked-down. Removed
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15/12/2020 10:50:56 6 15
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Our government has saved more than have been let down, though
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15/12/2020 10:53:38 3 2
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Ever noticed that you use 'other houses' not burning as badly to slate HMG, before attacking anyone using the same logic the other way around?
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15/12/2020 11:15:55 3 5
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more remoaner lies ! England has the first vaccine ! Proof that Boris has done an exerlent job and that were better than any other county FACT ! much better than your so called failed eu supper state but the bbc cant report this coz it doesnt suite there agender !
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15/12/2020 10:37:23 2 6
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what chance of an increase for pensioners?
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15/12/2020 10:40:37 9 11
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Why? They are already getting back far more than they ever paid into the system.
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15/12/2020 10:43:40 4 7
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They don't deserve one.
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15/12/2020 10:46:38 7 6
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Pensioners are very well looked after already. Everyone agrees that.
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15/12/2020 10:54:19 7 5
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For the first time in history pensioner's disposable income has exceeded those in work.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38948369

You've never had it so good, now stop moaning.
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15/12/2020 10:38:03 11 14
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Low paid workers being victimised yet again, does Marcus Rashford have to campaign for them, so they can survive with perhaps one hot meal a day?

This Tory Toff Govt of millionaire Brexiters won’t do anything for the low paid, otherwise.
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15/12/2020 10:44:42 7 7
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I see it serves the remainers goals to support the poor today, yesterday it was they who , poorly educated and ignorant voted in droves for Brexit, but today they are a useful stick to beat the Tories and get Brexit into the HYS. Time for all the LibLabCons to be swept away, they are all remainers, only that Boris knows if he didn't accept the Majority will he'd be out he'd be remainer too.
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15/12/2020 10:53:45 1 0
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Victimised by automation???!!!!!
Time for a counter-revolution, out with the LibLabCons or to paraphrase Henry II, "Will no one rid us of these troublesome parties?" A new Party is needed, small 'c' conservative and not afraid to accept English Nationalism as equally as valid as Welsh, Irish, Scots and any other European Nationalism. Removed
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15/12/2020 10:41:41 5 2
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No. WE HATE NATIONALISM

aka fascism
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15/12/2020 10:39:54 9 10
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Let’s hope that these young people and disadvantaged vote with their feet or vote for a better government and a better future at the next election.
They all deserve better .
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15/12/2020 11:03:20 10 0
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While I agree with your sentiment, I think the BBC HYS articles are the wrong place for it - It's now generally about leave vs remain, right vs left, tory vs labour, old vs young - Sadly, considerate and sincere comments don't have much of a place here any more.
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15/12/2020 11:15:16 1 0
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For that there has to be a choice at the minute the choice is between 3 glasses of cola filled with the same cola. Which is why politicians are held at record low esteem by many and contempt by quite a few.
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15/12/2020 10:37:23 2 6
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what chance of an increase for pensioners?
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15/12/2020 10:40:37 9 11
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Why? They are already getting back far more than they ever paid into the system.
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15/12/2020 10:41:37 9 3
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I don't think any country is "doing well"; no-one knows how to deal with this properly - our government has made complete hash of some things, but there are no certainties here - look at Japan, Germany, South Korea.... not looking quite so good now
On low pay, be careful what you wish for - Labour told us record low unemployment was because of poor productivity and low pay. This is the alternative
Time for a counter-revolution, out with the LibLabCons or to paraphrase Henry II, "Will no one rid us of these troublesome parties?" A new Party is needed, small 'c' conservative and not afraid to accept English Nationalism as equally as valid as Welsh, Irish, Scots and any other European Nationalism. Removed
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15/12/2020 10:41:41 5 2
bbc
No. WE HATE NATIONALISM

aka fascism
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15/12/2020 10:42:14 12 6
bbc
And guess what ?

People will be blamed for their low pay or for losing their jobs, by sociopaths.
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15/12/2020 10:45:59 7 16
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or
by people who present an alternative viewpoint to your own
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15/12/2020 10:37:23 2 6
bbc
what chance of an increase for pensioners?
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15/12/2020 10:43:40 4 7
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They don't deserve one.
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15/12/2020 10:44:36 7 15
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Clearly there are too many people to satisfy demand.
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15/12/2020 22:19:11 0 0
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Unfortunately we cannot dispose of them as we do with other items we no longer want or need.
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15/12/2020 10:38:03 11 14
bbc
Low paid workers being victimised yet again, does Marcus Rashford have to campaign for them, so they can survive with perhaps one hot meal a day?

This Tory Toff Govt of millionaire Brexiters won’t do anything for the low paid, otherwise.
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15/12/2020 10:44:42 7 7
bbc
I see it serves the remainers goals to support the poor today, yesterday it was they who , poorly educated and ignorant voted in droves for Brexit, but today they are a useful stick to beat the Tories and get Brexit into the HYS. Time for all the LibLabCons to be swept away, they are all remainers, only that Boris knows if he didn't accept the Majority will he'd be out he'd be remainer too.
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Pip
15/12/2020 10:51:18 5 3
bbc
Here again Jacques, one post removed, the other toting abject drivel.................?
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mjp
16/12/2020 00:09:52 0 0
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I know it's illegal... but any chance you can point me to your dealer? Whatever you're getting hold of is certainly high strength stuff!
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15/12/2020 10:45:48 3 9
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Boris, you have to get a grip. Put the economy first. When the health academics say we have to shut down the economy say NO you must find another way. Go away until you have found another way. The tail is wagging the dog & its simply unacceptable. The death rate does not justify this level of lockdown at all. Keep old people in, let the rest of us earn money to keep ourselves & the economy afloat
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15/12/2020 10:42:14 12 6
bbc
And guess what ?

People will be blamed for their low pay or for losing their jobs, by sociopaths.
14
15/12/2020 10:45:59 7 16
bbc
or
by people who present an alternative viewpoint to your own
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15/12/2020 10:53:47 3 2
bbc
Yes. Sociopaths.
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15/12/2020 10:37:23 2 6
bbc
what chance of an increase for pensioners?
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15/12/2020 10:46:38 7 6
bbc
Pensioners are very well looked after already. Everyone agrees that.
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Pip
15/12/2020 10:53:23 3 5
bbc
Oh, because you say so, not very wise............?
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15/12/2020 10:47:06 39 12
bbc
Yes, it's the most economically vulnerable that are suffering the most while civil servants and so many others in the public sector are sitting comfortably, wishing for more and more lockdown.
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15/12/2020 11:21:56 21 10
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Civil servants have been very upset recently because they have come under question. I don;t think the average civil servant knows anything about the average working British person! Civil servants are the very embodiment of what we mean when we talk about the 'liberal elite'.
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15/12/2020 12:35:10 7 1
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The wife of a friend of mine works at the DUP. A soon as this pandemic arose, many staff were claiming they had asthma despite never using an inhaler. They have been on furlough all year. She is disgusted with the amount of fakers there.
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15/12/2020 12:45:33 6 3
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"Many others in the public sector are sitting comfortably"

Quite disgusting! Doctors and nurses are "public sector workers".

And many have died because of their work during this pandemic.

And you throw that right wing trash at their grieving families? You should be utterly ashamed!!
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15/12/2020 20:04:21 0 0
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Public sector employees have some advantages in the current situation, but it is malicious to suggest that they actually wish for 'more and more lockdown'. They are human beings and do have a conscience.
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15/12/2020 10:36:29 12 11
bbc
Many governments around the world faced the same as ours yet did much, much better.

Sadly, people defend our govt's poor reaction with deflection, arguing "yeah, well they did better than *insert country*" which makes as much sense as "my house is on fire but my neighbour's is more on fire so I'm fine".

Our govt has unnecessarily let down far too many people and must be held to account.
and so many did much much worse, try Wales & Scotland for starters. SAGE & Ferguson & Imperial need kicking up the a*** too. We have a global elite, all of whom, oddly enough, can 'bubble' together next year in Singapore, rather than Davos - covid only attacks us plebs it seems, got to keep us all locked-down. Removed
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15/12/2020 10:48:47 8 11
bbc
A lot of us lefties have been calling for universal income for a while now because of the pending automation elephant in the room. Big companies who automate should be taxed more to allow for this as without an income the increasing number of unemployed low skill workers may lead to a number of societal issues that I really cant see with us dealing with appropriately
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15/12/2020 10:51:53 6 16
bbc
Yeah, before you get your way you have to get elected first
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15/12/2020 10:36:29 12 11
bbc
Many governments around the world faced the same as ours yet did much, much better.

Sadly, people defend our govt's poor reaction with deflection, arguing "yeah, well they did better than *insert country*" which makes as much sense as "my house is on fire but my neighbour's is more on fire so I'm fine".

Our govt has unnecessarily let down far too many people and must be held to account.
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15/12/2020 10:50:56 6 15
bbc
Our government has saved more than have been let down, though
12
15/12/2020 10:44:42 7 7
bbc
I see it serves the remainers goals to support the poor today, yesterday it was they who , poorly educated and ignorant voted in droves for Brexit, but today they are a useful stick to beat the Tories and get Brexit into the HYS. Time for all the LibLabCons to be swept away, they are all remainers, only that Boris knows if he didn't accept the Majority will he'd be out he'd be remainer too.
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Pip
15/12/2020 10:51:18 5 3
bbc
Here again Jacques, one post removed, the other toting abject drivel.................?
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15/12/2020 10:51:52 16 4
bbc
I swear the BBC has already embraced automation judging by their articles. If we don't need low skilled people then why do we keep letting them in ?
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15/12/2020 10:48:47 8 11
bbc
A lot of us lefties have been calling for universal income for a while now because of the pending automation elephant in the room. Big companies who automate should be taxed more to allow for this as without an income the increasing number of unemployed low skill workers may lead to a number of societal issues that I really cant see with us dealing with appropriately
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15/12/2020 10:51:53 6 16
bbc
Yeah, before you get your way you have to get elected first
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15/12/2020 11:19:59 3 1
bbc
Yup, because sensible long term policy decisions can only be enacted by the party that aligns most closely with that ideology....
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15/12/2020 10:52:03 6 10
bbc
English nationalists want the low-paid to pick crops in the fields.
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15/12/2020 10:57:52 10 0
bbc
So. If I needed work I would be happy to pick crops, I take it that would be beneath you?
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15/12/2020 10:58:33 6 0
bbc
Did it in my student days, are you afraid of hard work ?
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15/12/2020 11:05:34 3 1
bbc
Let me rephrase that for you

English nationalists want low paid English to pick crops in the fields
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15/12/2020 10:46:38 7 6
bbc
Pensioners are very well looked after already. Everyone agrees that.
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Pip
15/12/2020 10:53:23 3 5
bbc
Oh, because you say so, not very wise............?
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15/12/2020 10:36:29 12 11
bbc
Many governments around the world faced the same as ours yet did much, much better.

Sadly, people defend our govt's poor reaction with deflection, arguing "yeah, well they did better than *insert country*" which makes as much sense as "my house is on fire but my neighbour's is more on fire so I'm fine".

Our govt has unnecessarily let down far too many people and must be held to account.
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15/12/2020 10:53:38 3 2
bbc
Ever noticed that you use 'other houses' not burning as badly to slate HMG, before attacking anyone using the same logic the other way around?
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15/12/2020 10:38:03 11 14
bbc
Low paid workers being victimised yet again, does Marcus Rashford have to campaign for them, so they can survive with perhaps one hot meal a day?

This Tory Toff Govt of millionaire Brexiters won’t do anything for the low paid, otherwise.
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15/12/2020 10:53:45 1 0
bbc
Victimised by automation???!!!!!
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15/12/2020 12:29:27 2 0
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Everyone is a *victim* in the identity-politics world of woke.

(except the cis-gendered, pale, male and stale)
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15/12/2020 10:45:59 7 16
bbc
or
by people who present an alternative viewpoint to your own
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15/12/2020 10:53:47 3 2
bbc
Yes. Sociopaths.
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15/12/2020 11:00:47 4 1
bbc
Well, there are sociopaths (a few of them) and there are people who take responsibility for their own lives and decisions (tens of millions of them in this country). But, hey, let's pretend people are all owed a comfortable living at someone else's expense, and call anyone who disagrees a sociopath. Must be great to be you, with that high moral ground and no notion of reality.
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15/12/2020 10:37:23 2 6
bbc
what chance of an increase for pensioners?
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15/12/2020 10:54:19 7 5
bbc
For the first time in history pensioner's disposable income has exceeded those in work.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38948369

You've never had it so good, now stop moaning.
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15/12/2020 10:57:48 3 5
bbc
The whole point of government is to help improve the life of the people as a whole. The clearly isn't happening and why we need UBI.
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15/12/2020 11:03:54 2 5
bbc
Only some governments have that view,certainly not our current Tory government
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15/12/2020 10:52:03 6 10
bbc
English nationalists want the low-paid to pick crops in the fields.
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15/12/2020 10:57:52 10 0
bbc
So. If I needed work I would be happy to pick crops, I take it that would be beneath you?
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15/12/2020 12:22:38 1 0
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It's not exactly a long term employment solution. its a temp job like
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15/12/2020 10:52:03 6 10
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English nationalists want the low-paid to pick crops in the fields.
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15/12/2020 10:58:33 6 0
bbc
Did it in my student days, are you afraid of hard work ?
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15/12/2020 11:11:04 1 1
bbc
No I've done it myself too thankyou.
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15/12/2020 10:53:47 3 2
bbc
Yes. Sociopaths.
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15/12/2020 11:00:47 4 1
bbc
Well, there are sociopaths (a few of them) and there are people who take responsibility for their own lives and decisions (tens of millions of them in this country). But, hey, let's pretend people are all owed a comfortable living at someone else's expense, and call anyone who disagrees a sociopath. Must be great to be you, with that high moral ground and no notion of reality.
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15/12/2020 11:00:58 6 4
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Automation should free us all to enjoy the wealth it produces. Unfortunately, and as usual, the greedy few have grabbed yet more for themselves while the lower paid have to scramble for whatever work is available. We know that inequality makes for sick societies and that inequality massively affected Covid suffering. Yet we still have ‘ordinary’ people who support inequality.
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15/12/2020 12:24:34 3 5
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Inequality isn't something that is put onto the lower orders, it's a facet of repeated poor choices made by them.
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15/12/2020 11:01:24 2 8
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No HYS on Windrush payout.
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15/12/2020 11:02:57 24 1
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good luck with retraining? it's hard enough getting a job that you can already do never mind something you've only just retrained in. sadly most employers won't take the risk and just want a round peg in a round hole
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15/12/2020 11:20:22 6 3
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Not true. But it does cost time and money to train new recruits to an industry, and us SMEs don;t have the time to mess about with apprenticeship nonsense, although we'd like it simplified so we can. People will have to treat changing job as an education. But one they don't have to pay £9000 a year for!
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15/12/2020 10:39:54 9 10
bbc
Let’s hope that these young people and disadvantaged vote with their feet or vote for a better government and a better future at the next election.
They all deserve better .
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15/12/2020 11:03:20 10 0
bbc
While I agree with your sentiment, I think the BBC HYS articles are the wrong place for it - It's now generally about leave vs remain, right vs left, tory vs labour, old vs young - Sadly, considerate and sincere comments don't have much of a place here any more.
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15/12/2020 10:57:48 3 5
bbc
The whole point of government is to help improve the life of the people as a whole. The clearly isn't happening and why we need UBI.
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15/12/2020 11:03:54 2 5
bbc
Only some governments have that view,certainly not our current Tory government
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15/12/2020 10:57:20 18 5
bbc
All those calling for lockdowns are in safe government jobs. Perhaps they should take a sympathy income freeze and experience what they’re constantly calling for.
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15/12/2020 13:52:26 7 0
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I disagree, most people calling for lockdowns are worried and most of the worry comes from the media coverage and general panic. You would be surprised how many people just want to work and get paid for it.
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15/12/2020 10:52:03 6 10
bbc
English nationalists want the low-paid to pick crops in the fields.
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15/12/2020 11:05:34 3 1
bbc
Let me rephrase that for you

English nationalists want low paid English to pick crops in the fields
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15/12/2020 11:05:49 1 2
bbc
Music to the ears of the "Dash To The Bottom" Brigade.

Afterall how is a pub in London going to compete with China with high wages and more employment rules??

Sarcasm but it makes no difference.
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15/12/2020 11:05:53 12 2
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I know folk who will happily pay many thousands for a Rolls Royce, or a fancy mansion, but would complain about the few pence they pay for a lettuce.
Society is driving us to an automatic existence,take farming how many employed in that industry now compared to many years ago,fish processing the same ,manufacturing etc much of it done by machine or robot.
We want to much for nothing.
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15/12/2020 11:06:13 12 9
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If we are serious about "Save the NHS" millions of people will just have to lose their jobs, livelihoods & hope
We now have a vaccine which will simply extend the lives of people over 80 years of age with many underlying health conditions & a total reliance on teams of carers to get through each day. I am a pensioner myself & feel sorry for the younger generations sacrificing their lives & hopes
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15/12/2020 11:02:33 8 5
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The future isn't bright for my country. It's sad what is happening and some people seem to revel in it.
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15/12/2020 14:14:51 1 0
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Doomed! We're all doomed. And marooned.
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15/12/2020 10:58:33 6 0
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Did it in my student days, are you afraid of hard work ?
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15/12/2020 11:11:04 1 1
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No I've done it myself too thankyou.
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15/12/2020 11:05:49 7 4
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The sage 'scientists' and the government seem hell bent on destroying a whole sector of the economy.The hospitality industry has been disproportionately affected by the regulations placed on business with virtually zero evidence.
Those employed are least likely to find employment elsewhere and will be hardest hit at the worst time of year.
It's cruel and unnecessary.
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15/12/2020 11:23:23 5 9
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Exactly. It is now obvious that schools are the main vector of covid transmission, but the rest of us are made to pay so they can stay open. Although most are so disrupted with missing staff and pupils it is not really worth it.
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15/12/2020 11:12:42 7 17
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I was once very low paid and pregnant but it meant I could raise a family full time as I didn't miss the pittance wages.
My high powered, highly paid peers have never been able to afford to start a family because they have too many material items to lose and the next promotion to chase.
The grass is always greener....
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15/12/2020 12:22:24 4 0
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I imagine the bennies & services you received were all paid-for by your "highly paid peers" - you should thank them, daily.
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15/12/2020 22:16:59 1 0
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But you probably used part of the State Benefits Programs paid for by working taxpayers. Plus you are raising children we don't need.
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mjp
16/12/2020 00:15:38 0 0
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But have you been able to raise your child without having to rely on state aid?

If not then you shouldn't have procreated? Why put the burden of helping to raise your child on the taxpayer - the very ones who work hard and chase the promotions and who you criticise?
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15/12/2020 11:14:18 35 11
bbc
The problem is that many people who are low-skilled put "starting a family" much higher up the list than "improving their skills".
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15/12/2020 11:24:45 20 36
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What a crass, snobby thing to to say.
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15/12/2020 11:27:31 11 1
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Thank you - needs to be said . Quite frankly how much 'hospitality ' do we need as a society .
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15/12/2020 12:39:53 4 8
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Your circumstances are down to luck as much as hard work. So remember that the next time you feel the need to massage your ego at the expense of someone less fortunate.
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15/12/2020 12:53:28 3 5
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Quite true.

Bozo has started many families and hasn't improved his leadership skills one jot.

However he's still a compulsive liar and a complete clown. For that he gets huge support in England. Many English people seemingly just love these "skills".
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15/12/2020 11:14:40 15 6
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The truth is that the many industrial strikes of the past in the UK has destroyed industry and has driven it abroad where production is cheaper. Who builds or ships, cars and electronic equipment etc, at an affordable price to us . Sadly we do not know or care what many of the workers in those foreign factories have to endure, as long as the price is right for us.
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15/12/2020 13:56:36 1 1
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You are broadly right, the only thing I find odd is your implication that it is bad for forign workers to have jobs - I doubt they would agree if you ask them. The cost of living is high in the UK, houseing, food, etc so your assumption that forign workers are all worked much much harder than UK workers is flawed, they may well work the same number of hours, or even less.
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15/12/2020 17:20:37 3 0
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Unions chopped off their own feet really. Made production in the UK so unattractive to big companies that it drove them away. Mrs T did a great job in breaking their stranglehold. Pity we still have to endure them on the railways though, which are quite bad enough even without all the strikes.
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15/12/2020 20:05:19 2 0
bbc
Strikes did not move industry out of the UK. Manufacturing is always a race to the bottom. You can have manufacturing if you want to exist at the level of those who do this work. The fact is, in the UK, and even more so in the USA, there is a large portion of the population who are completely unequipped to survive in a modern technological society.
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15/12/2020 20:14:22 2 0
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When the disadvantaged realize they have little chance of anything better than the situation in which they were raised they, unfortunately, tend to delude themselves ,lose touch with reality and turn to procreation as a means to acquire some life satisfaction. They do not realize how they are just recreating the same problems which faced them. We cannot absorb these children
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15/12/2020 10:39:54 9 10
bbc
Let’s hope that these young people and disadvantaged vote with their feet or vote for a better government and a better future at the next election.
They all deserve better .
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15/12/2020 11:15:16 1 0
bbc
For that there has to be a choice at the minute the choice is between 3 glasses of cola filled with the same cola. Which is why politicians are held at record low esteem by many and contempt by quite a few.
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15/12/2020 11:13:36 6 8
bbc
NOT a "pandemic double whammy"!

Most definitely a "lockdown and tier 3 double whammy".

If the government had had the intelligence and integrity to adopt Sweden's approach, then 999 people out of 1000 would have got on quite blissfully with their lives, and mostot the businesses and jobs they have destroyed would still be there.
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15/12/2020 11:40:22 13 0
bbc
And if the media and some sections of the public had the intelligence and integrity to get behind the government instead of automatically castigating whatever action they take then perhaps the Swedish approach - or something closer to it - could have been adopted .
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15/12/2020 12:05:41 1 1
bbc
Still people thinking Sweden got it right
Look at the table, Sweden has 738 cases per 100,000
Only Croatia, Slovenia, Lithuania & Luxembourg have a higher per 100,000 cases rate in Europe
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
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15/12/2020 11:17:30 2 6
bbc
All this discussion about London going into tier 3 has been used to cover the rise in pensions and benefits by only 0.5% yesterday. Austerity by a different name and not reported by the media.
We have had lots of robots put in where I work, they have more holidays and time off than normal employees and mistakes made are magnified by them.
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mjp
16/12/2020 00:06:08 0 0
bbc
0.5% is more than a very large percentage of the population will get so be thankful!

So many losing jobs so its better than a kick in the gonads!
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15/12/2020 10:51:53 6 16
bbc
Yeah, before you get your way you have to get elected first
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15/12/2020 11:19:59 3 1
bbc
Yup, because sensible long term policy decisions can only be enacted by the party that aligns most closely with that ideology....
1
15/12/2020 10:36:29 12 11
bbc
Many governments around the world faced the same as ours yet did much, much better.

Sadly, people defend our govt's poor reaction with deflection, arguing "yeah, well they did better than *insert country*" which makes as much sense as "my house is on fire but my neighbour's is more on fire so I'm fine".

Our govt has unnecessarily let down far too many people and must be held to account.
53
15/12/2020 11:15:55 3 5
bbc
more remoaner lies ! England has the first vaccine ! Proof that Boris has done an exerlent job and that were better than any other county FACT ! much better than your so called failed eu supper state but the bbc cant report this coz it doesnt suite there agender !
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15/12/2020 13:04:55 3 0
bbc
Wow.. Ignorance combined with poor grammar. Well done.
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mjp
16/12/2020 00:00:22 0 0
bbc
An 'exerlent' job that's better than the 'eu' 'supper' state?

Doesn't 'suite' 'there' 'agender'?

I do hope you're not a typical representation of a Brexiteer.. else we're doomed!
54
15/12/2020 11:21:37 36 7
bbc
Commission chairwoman, Labour MP Yvette Cooper....

Now this little study wouldn't be a tad politically biased now would it?
108
15/12/2020 13:36:59 9 0
bbc
Aren't they all?
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15/12/2020 16:01:00 0 0
bbc
Whether a report comes from a particular standpoint or pretends not to be, it is always worth a reading as it might inspire another thought which could add even more to the public happiness.

The endless cynicism of our times is our greatest enemy.
35
15/12/2020 11:02:57 24 1
bbc
good luck with retraining? it's hard enough getting a job that you can already do never mind something you've only just retrained in. sadly most employers won't take the risk and just want a round peg in a round hole
55
15/12/2020 11:20:22 6 3
bbc
Not true. But it does cost time and money to train new recruits to an industry, and us SMEs don;t have the time to mess about with apprenticeship nonsense, although we'd like it simplified so we can. People will have to treat changing job as an education. But one they don't have to pay £9000 a year for!
47
15/12/2020 11:14:18 35 11
bbc
The problem is that many people who are low-skilled put "starting a family" much higher up the list than "improving their skills".
56
15/12/2020 11:24:45 20 36
bbc
What a crass, snobby thing to to say.
61
15/12/2020 11:31:53 13 3
bbc
True though.
62
15/12/2020 11:31:55 13 2
bbc
Truth can be insensitive .
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15/12/2020 13:49:18 1 0
bbc
You are both correct.
16
15/12/2020 10:47:06 39 12
bbc
Yes, it's the most economically vulnerable that are suffering the most while civil servants and so many others in the public sector are sitting comfortably, wishing for more and more lockdown.
57
15/12/2020 11:21:56 21 10
bbc
Civil servants have been very upset recently because they have come under question. I don;t think the average civil servant knows anything about the average working British person! Civil servants are the very embodiment of what we mean when we talk about the 'liberal elite'.
63
15/12/2020 11:32:55 16 2
bbc
Jackpot

I'm contracting on a programme in the public sector for the first time

This is my first exposure to civil servants and I have found it completely and utterly shocking in every single way

They are so out of touch with reality it's scary

I used to wonder how the hell all these NHS IT projects could go so spectacularly wrong. I don't now

Incompetence on an industrial scale
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15/12/2020 20:41:22 0 0
bbc
That is part of the deep state
45
15/12/2020 11:05:49 7 4
bbc
The sage 'scientists' and the government seem hell bent on destroying a whole sector of the economy.The hospitality industry has been disproportionately affected by the regulations placed on business with virtually zero evidence.
Those employed are least likely to find employment elsewhere and will be hardest hit at the worst time of year.
It's cruel and unnecessary.
58
15/12/2020 11:23:23 5 9
bbc
Exactly. It is now obvious that schools are the main vector of covid transmission, but the rest of us are made to pay so they can stay open. Although most are so disrupted with missing staff and pupils it is not really worth it.
59
15/12/2020 11:25:57 48 10
bbc
Time for young people to learn that Blair sold them a pup. it is not possible for 50% of the nation to be managers or top professionals, so some of those with degrees are going to have to be labourers. Many of the best managers start at the bottom and learn from experience, their seniors spot that they are more innovative, productive, conscientious, reliable - so they get promoted.
67
15/12/2020 11:52:25 13 8
bbc
True, but you have missed the point that these entry level jobs are being automated, so there is no entry level for these young people to start at.
73
15/12/2020 12:07:46 8 4
bbc
What, Tony Blair that last won an election 15 years ago? For people to have even voted for him they would at least need to be 33.

Keep up mate - they aren't the young people any more. The young people now are the ones who have spend their whole voting life under a Tory govt, as budgets have been slashed while friends of the ERG pocket our cash for dodgy contracts?
105
15/12/2020 13:19:58 2 3
bbc
Did you read the article?

"The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has estimated that more than 1.5 million low-skilled jobs are at high risk of automation.

Of those, 70% are women and 99% do not have degrees."

They don't have degrees! Maybe if they did, they could get a skilled job.
115
15/12/2020 13:53:04 7 2
bbc
Unfortunately many 'seniors' don't promote the best, they promote the people they like or can control easily.
116
15/12/2020 13:55:31 4 2
bbc
Unfortunately many 'seniors' don't promote the best, they promote the people
they like or can control easily.
47
15/12/2020 11:14:18 35 11
bbc
The problem is that many people who are low-skilled put "starting a family" much higher up the list than "improving their skills".
60
15/12/2020 11:27:31 11 1
bbc
Thank you - needs to be said . Quite frankly how much 'hospitality ' do we need as a society .
70
15/12/2020 12:04:02 4 5
bbc
Before the government shut it down, quite a lot actually. Hospitality is a broad brush. You're weekend break, your trip to the theatre, concert hall, restaurant, the fact that it is beneath you to make your own lunch. The events company because you can't cook for a dinner party or have storage space for a marquee. Let's be honest, without it, life is dull, just like your condescension.
56
15/12/2020 11:24:45 20 36
bbc
What a crass, snobby thing to to say.
61
15/12/2020 11:31:53 13 3
bbc
True though.
56
15/12/2020 11:24:45 20 36
bbc
What a crass, snobby thing to to say.
62
15/12/2020 11:31:55 13 2
bbc
Truth can be insensitive .
57
15/12/2020 11:21:56 21 10
bbc
Civil servants have been very upset recently because they have come under question. I don;t think the average civil servant knows anything about the average working British person! Civil servants are the very embodiment of what we mean when we talk about the 'liberal elite'.
63
15/12/2020 11:32:55 16 2
bbc
Jackpot

I'm contracting on a programme in the public sector for the first time

This is my first exposure to civil servants and I have found it completely and utterly shocking in every single way

They are so out of touch with reality it's scary

I used to wonder how the hell all these NHS IT projects could go so spectacularly wrong. I don't now

Incompetence on an industrial scale
149
15/12/2020 16:54:08 3 0
bbc
Perhaps Nepotism and Cronism are still alive and well , just look at the way Dido Harding got her position with no experience or expertise and a proven failure in a previous role and she still got the job !!!
64
15/12/2020 11:39:25 17 3
bbc
This article makes clear that the sacrifices being demanded to "save our NHS" are being born mostly by low paid works. It is a pity that the voice of those doing the sacrificing is never heard above the noise of those demanding ever more sacrificing. Nor much explaining about how the sacrifices made to date seem to have made little difference.
97
15/12/2020 13:02:15 5 1
bbc
You've said what I said only so much better! Let's not forget that, for a lot of jobs in this gig economy, the minimum wage is now the maximum wage as well
183
15/12/2020 23:59:28 0 0
bbc
Spot on, and closing pubs, restaurants, gyms etc has done unnecessary damage to the economy . And just made people crowd elsewhere.
50
15/12/2020 11:13:36 6 8
bbc
NOT a "pandemic double whammy"!

Most definitely a "lockdown and tier 3 double whammy".

If the government had had the intelligence and integrity to adopt Sweden's approach, then 999 people out of 1000 would have got on quite blissfully with their lives, and mostot the businesses and jobs they have destroyed would still be there.
65
15/12/2020 11:40:22 13 0
bbc
And if the media and some sections of the public had the intelligence and integrity to get behind the government instead of automatically castigating whatever action they take then perhaps the Swedish approach - or something closer to it - could have been adopted .
66
15/12/2020 11:51:29 15 12
bbc
We need more "think tanks"

said nobody ever
122
15/12/2020 14:08:32 0 1
bbc
BBC need them, or they would have no stories with wich to stir up panic - THE ROBOTS ARE TAKIGN OUR JOBS "says think tank". Funny how the think tank doesnt go into detail on how more unemployed poeple looking for the same number of jobs results in no increse in employment, maybe they are busy thinking.
59
15/12/2020 11:25:57 48 10
bbc
Time for young people to learn that Blair sold them a pup. it is not possible for 50% of the nation to be managers or top professionals, so some of those with degrees are going to have to be labourers. Many of the best managers start at the bottom and learn from experience, their seniors spot that they are more innovative, productive, conscientious, reliable - so they get promoted.
67
15/12/2020 11:52:25 13 8
bbc
True, but you have missed the point that these entry level jobs are being automated, so there is no entry level for these young people to start at.
69
15/12/2020 12:01:40 5 1
bbc
Someone has to maintain the automation.
109
15/12/2020 13:38:08 3 0
bbc
so who makes, programs and maintains the automating equipment? surely those will be highly skilled in demand jobs, maybe start there.
136
15/12/2020 14:49:00 2 0
bbc
There are still plenty of jobs out there, just not what they want to do. So it is tough, takes what is going and adapt.
68
15/12/2020 11:59:31 11 2
bbc
" pace at which technology replaces human jobs"

Which is exactly what we need to happen world wide to allow the human population to naturally decline to sustainable levels
67
15/12/2020 11:52:25 13 8
bbc
True, but you have missed the point that these entry level jobs are being automated, so there is no entry level for these young people to start at.
69
15/12/2020 12:01:40 5 1
bbc
Someone has to maintain the automation.
110
15/12/2020 13:46:21 4 1
bbc
As long as that person isn't you, I assume from your previous comments? To enlighten you, automation reduces the need for humans. One person maintains a machine instead of 20 people doing the machine's tasks. Reducing the workforce by 20%. The jobs have gone in that industry, never to return. Until tech/innovation creates new jobs with new skills required the workforce is reduced in total numbers.
181
15/12/2020 22:23:23 0 0
bbc
Yes, workers on short term contracts. Easily disposed of when their contracts are up and they are rendered unemployed by new more recent graduates with newer more up to date tech knowledge.
60
15/12/2020 11:27:31 11 1
bbc
Thank you - needs to be said . Quite frankly how much 'hospitality ' do we need as a society .
70
15/12/2020 12:04:02 4 5
bbc
Before the government shut it down, quite a lot actually. Hospitality is a broad brush. You're weekend break, your trip to the theatre, concert hall, restaurant, the fact that it is beneath you to make your own lunch. The events company because you can't cook for a dinner party or have storage space for a marquee. Let's be honest, without it, life is dull, just like your condescension.
119
15/12/2020 14:02:06 2 1
bbc
But it does prove that hospitality it's not essential and therefore has been dropped from many including mines wish list. We learn to adapt without these areas, some of which are no longer required, sadly but true
159
15/12/2020 18:06:27 3 0
bbc
What is condescending about it . The hospitality you refer to is is always a ' nice to have ' but not essential . Seriously how many coffee shops/cafes/restaurants/hotels do we need .
50
15/12/2020 11:13:36 6 8
bbc
NOT a "pandemic double whammy"!

Most definitely a "lockdown and tier 3 double whammy".

If the government had had the intelligence and integrity to adopt Sweden's approach, then 999 people out of 1000 would have got on quite blissfully with their lives, and mostot the businesses and jobs they have destroyed would still be there.
71
15/12/2020 12:05:41 1 1
bbc
Still people thinking Sweden got it right
Look at the table, Sweden has 738 cases per 100,000
Only Croatia, Slovenia, Lithuania & Luxembourg have a higher per 100,000 cases rate in Europe
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
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15/12/2020 12:05:55 6 3
bbc
This is good. Automating away mundane jobs. Doubly so if it is ones that currently involve having to be on site in contact with people. Really pouring out a drink or warming up a meal is not much of a task.

Those on free hand out furlough have been the very lucky ones. Not the hard done by!

Get to the end, it is a unions & bad attitude group not as implied some real government 'commision'. Fake
59
15/12/2020 11:25:57 48 10
bbc
Time for young people to learn that Blair sold them a pup. it is not possible for 50% of the nation to be managers or top professionals, so some of those with degrees are going to have to be labourers. Many of the best managers start at the bottom and learn from experience, their seniors spot that they are more innovative, productive, conscientious, reliable - so they get promoted.
73
15/12/2020 12:07:46 8 4
bbc
What, Tony Blair that last won an election 15 years ago? For people to have even voted for him they would at least need to be 33.

Keep up mate - they aren't the young people any more. The young people now are the ones who have spend their whole voting life under a Tory govt, as budgets have been slashed while friends of the ERG pocket our cash for dodgy contracts?
118
15/12/2020 13:57:17 9 3
bbc
Everyone who has come of age in the last decade has grown up and been affected by Blair's ill-thought through policies, and will continue to be affected by them into the future.

Namely, we were collectively sold out, our homes sold to the highest bidder and our jobs to the lowest. Pretty disgusting behaviour from Labour really, all while they claim to be doing the exact opposite of the reality.
74
15/12/2020 12:11:58 19 5
bbc
Really shabby biased reporting by the bbc.

Not making clear this garbage is a politcally motivated fake 'commission' until the last line. Not even the 'far left wing think tank' reporter cover. If you are going to report press releases by politically biased axe grinders at least caveat the item from the first line! This is typical faking of news Completely made up for re-reporting by lazy media.
78
15/12/2020 12:19:07 22 2
bbc
Indeed - the Beeb becomes more like the Guardian every day. Just look at the article on women under 30 suffering from unemployment - it makes out like women have it especially hard, but when you look at their graph the men have exactly the same level of increased unemployment (within limits of error).
104
15/12/2020 13:35:37 8 0
bbc
#DefundtheBBC
75
15/12/2020 12:13:51 3 1
bbc
I think the governments need to look at some automation. For example, we know retail shops are closing because people are buying more online. Not such a huge problem as the more deliveries the more packers and delivery drivers needed. It balances out a tad. But then with Amazon wanting to do away with delivery drivers by using drones etc. then we are lining ourselves up for a massive problem.
80
15/12/2020 12:21:44 4 2
bbc
People need to remember work is not an object in itself. It is the means to income. Automating away stuff that needs to pay people to do it is good. The problem may become income distribution. So state 'wage' issued to all may become part of the future. With work done more as you enjoy the activity. Or are chasing greater income.
123
15/12/2020 14:08:49 3 0
bbc
If replacing humans with drones means my Hermes parcels actually get delivered, bring it on.
76
15/12/2020 12:16:41 19 4
bbc
We were told for the past 20 years that we *needed* to import 250,000 people a year to "do the jobs" - they were wrong.

What we needed to do was invest in productivity-enhancing automation and AI, which is the real route to increased wealth for the country.
131
15/12/2020 14:19:06 10 1
bbc
You're exactly right, but unfortunately its too late now we have Millons of low skilled migrants, and the government says they can all stay, and are paying lip service to stopping more crossing the channel.
77
15/12/2020 12:18:20 1 6
bbc
EU announces new digital laws.

UK govt allows Amazon to squirm out of the new digital tax.

That’s Johnson’s populist right wing junta and Brexit for you...
79
15/12/2020 12:21:02 0 14
bbc
Such a short term view.
74
15/12/2020 12:11:58 19 5
bbc
Really shabby biased reporting by the bbc.

Not making clear this garbage is a politcally motivated fake 'commission' until the last line. Not even the 'far left wing think tank' reporter cover. If you are going to report press releases by politically biased axe grinders at least caveat the item from the first line! This is typical faking of news Completely made up for re-reporting by lazy media.
78
15/12/2020 12:19:07 22 2
bbc
Indeed - the Beeb becomes more like the Guardian every day. Just look at the article on women under 30 suffering from unemployment - it makes out like women have it especially hard, but when you look at their graph the men have exactly the same level of increased unemployment (within limits of error).
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15/12/2020 17:18:45 6 0
bbc
I am told the the Guardian is the 'house' paper of the BBC, just s it can be found in any staff room in schools across the land. Although even the Guardian gets pulled up BTL if it gets so woke that it is obviously straying into the world of make believe.
77
15/12/2020 12:18:20 1 6
bbc
EU announces new digital laws.

UK govt allows Amazon to squirm out of the new digital tax.

That’s Johnson’s populist right wing junta and Brexit for you...
79
15/12/2020 12:21:02 0 14
bbc
Such a short term view.
75
15/12/2020 12:13:51 3 1
bbc
I think the governments need to look at some automation. For example, we know retail shops are closing because people are buying more online. Not such a huge problem as the more deliveries the more packers and delivery drivers needed. It balances out a tad. But then with Amazon wanting to do away with delivery drivers by using drones etc. then we are lining ourselves up for a massive problem.
80
15/12/2020 12:21:44 4 2
bbc
People need to remember work is not an object in itself. It is the means to income. Automating away stuff that needs to pay people to do it is good. The problem may become income distribution. So state 'wage' issued to all may become part of the future. With work done more as you enjoy the activity. Or are chasing greater income.
93
15/12/2020 12:52:23 6 0
bbc
The state wage will never happen. If it does it will be so paltry people will have to take a job to make ends meet. There is no way the wealthy are going to pay taxes for the rest to sit about.
46
15/12/2020 11:12:42 7 17
bbc
I was once very low paid and pregnant but it meant I could raise a family full time as I didn't miss the pittance wages.
My high powered, highly paid peers have never been able to afford to start a family because they have too many material items to lose and the next promotion to chase.
The grass is always greener....
81
15/12/2020 12:22:24 4 0
bbc
I imagine the bennies & services you received were all paid-for by your "highly paid peers" - you should thank them, daily.
30
15/12/2020 10:57:52 10 0
bbc
So. If I needed work I would be happy to pick crops, I take it that would be beneath you?
82
15/12/2020 12:22:38 1 0
bbc
It's not exactly a long term employment solution. its a temp job like
33
15/12/2020 11:00:58 6 4
bbc
Automation should free us all to enjoy the wealth it produces. Unfortunately, and as usual, the greedy few have grabbed yet more for themselves while the lower paid have to scramble for whatever work is available. We know that inequality makes for sick societies and that inequality massively affected Covid suffering. Yet we still have ‘ordinary’ people who support inequality.
83
15/12/2020 12:24:34 3 5
bbc
Inequality isn't something that is put onto the lower orders, it's a facet of repeated poor choices made by them.
91
15/12/2020 12:48:07 2 1
bbc
utter b...ocks!
26
15/12/2020 10:53:45 1 0
bbc
Victimised by automation???!!!!!
84
15/12/2020 12:29:27 2 0
bbc
Everyone is a *victim* in the identity-politics world of woke.

(except the cis-gendered, pale, male and stale)
85
15/12/2020 12:31:39 5 1
bbc
Nothing new here. Automation has been going on for years, take the motor industry.
16
15/12/2020 10:47:06 39 12
bbc
Yes, it's the most economically vulnerable that are suffering the most while civil servants and so many others in the public sector are sitting comfortably, wishing for more and more lockdown.
86
15/12/2020 12:35:10 7 1
bbc
The wife of a friend of mine works at the DUP. A soon as this pandemic arose, many staff were claiming they had asthma despite never using an inhaler. They have been on furlough all year. She is disgusted with the amount of fakers there.
106
15/12/2020 13:24:20 3 0
bbc
DUP? Democratic Unionist Party?
47
15/12/2020 11:14:18 35 11
bbc
The problem is that many people who are low-skilled put "starting a family" much higher up the list than "improving their skills".
87
15/12/2020 12:39:53 4 8
bbc
Your circumstances are down to luck as much as hard work. So remember that the next time you feel the need to massage your ego at the expense of someone less fortunate.
89
15/12/2020 12:45:40 12 1
bbc
I remember that I didn't saddle myself with kids/relationships that I wasn't financially/educationally equipped to handle.
160
15/12/2020 18:12:27 4 0
bbc
And sometimes their circumstances are due to the choices made .
16
15/12/2020 10:47:06 39 12
bbc
Yes, it's the most economically vulnerable that are suffering the most while civil servants and so many others in the public sector are sitting comfortably, wishing for more and more lockdown.
88
15/12/2020 12:45:33 6 3
bbc
"Many others in the public sector are sitting comfortably"

Quite disgusting! Doctors and nurses are "public sector workers".

And many have died because of their work during this pandemic.

And you throw that right wing trash at their grieving families? You should be utterly ashamed!!
103
15/12/2020 13:27:54 8 2
bbc
"Many have died" I'll await suitable sources for that emotionally incontinent argument.

The sheer number of tiktok videos of NHS staff messing about and not seeing patients for most of the year while being lauded by sycophants is disgusting. A close family member now has terminal cancer because of this. The NHS is not a sacred cow that must be praised at all times and be all consuming.
126
15/12/2020 14:11:14 4 1
bbc
"Many have died" - yet the ONS data showed that NHS workers did not die at a rate different to that of the general public of the same age.
87
15/12/2020 12:39:53 4 8
bbc
Your circumstances are down to luck as much as hard work. So remember that the next time you feel the need to massage your ego at the expense of someone less fortunate.
89
15/12/2020 12:45:40 12 1
bbc
I remember that I didn't saddle myself with kids/relationships that I wasn't financially/educationally equipped to handle.
90
15/12/2020 12:47:08 10 4
bbc
Surely the BBC can be automated and it could save a fortune in overpaid mates of mates who we are brainwashed to see as celebrity ?

I think Scooby Doo could host Match of the Day and give far more insightful commentary ... after all how can anyone have an intelligent conversation over football ... its impossible.
83
15/12/2020 12:24:34 3 5
bbc
Inequality isn't something that is put onto the lower orders, it's a facet of repeated poor choices made by them.
91
15/12/2020 12:48:07 2 1
bbc
utter b...ocks!
130
15/12/2020 14:17:48 1 0
bbc
I understand it's not a popular opinion amongst those who believe every difference in outcome is due to some sort of bigotry against the "victim", but the reality is that most people find their level by their efforts, deferring of gratification and repeated decision making.
92
KL
15/12/2020 12:50:42 2 1
bbc
People have been unnecessarily worried about automation for centuries. Some jobs have gone but many new ones have been created in their place. That said none of those bullet points are bad ideas.
80
15/12/2020 12:21:44 4 2
bbc
People need to remember work is not an object in itself. It is the means to income. Automating away stuff that needs to pay people to do it is good. The problem may become income distribution. So state 'wage' issued to all may become part of the future. With work done more as you enjoy the activity. Or are chasing greater income.
93
15/12/2020 12:52:23 6 0
bbc
The state wage will never happen. If it does it will be so paltry people will have to take a job to make ends meet. There is no way the wealthy are going to pay taxes for the rest to sit about.
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15/12/2020 16:01:42 1 0
bbc
Oh absolutely.Certainly at the start it should not be enough to live on. Even when established it should just keep you alive fed. The huge error advocates of it make is expecting it to be so high you can live on it alone just as well as generous benefits it must completely replace. Doing nothing else would be an option but most would add 'pin money' from activities, to others grasping for big pay.
47
15/12/2020 11:14:18 35 11
bbc
The problem is that many people who are low-skilled put "starting a family" much higher up the list than "improving their skills".
94
15/12/2020 12:53:28 3 5
bbc
Quite true.

Bozo has started many families and hasn't improved his leadership skills one jot.

However he's still a compulsive liar and a complete clown. For that he gets huge support in England. Many English people seemingly just love these "skills".
99
15/12/2020 13:09:23 7 3
bbc
But he can afford to, and you are probably just a naïve, young, lefty-BBC (etc)-influenced "Tory"-bashing bandwagon-jumper.
95
15/12/2020 12:57:21 2 2
bbc
Waste of sponsors money ; a trade union and a left wing political club.

Why not give the money to the people in need of help now ?
96
15/12/2020 13:00:25 11 3
bbc
Why the mention of lack of degrees?
Degrees do not guarantee a high paying position.
A degree does not equate to intelligence merely an ability to regurgitate words.
Degrees are not the be all.
121
15/12/2020 14:05:54 4 1
bbc
"A degree does not equate to intelligence merely an ability to regurgitate words." - When I did my degree the emphesis was on understanding and logical argument, which are linked to intelegence. Maybe you went to a lesser university, maybe you are misinformed, maybe you just desperatly want to believe you are my equal. Maybe, just maybe, you are wrong.
167
15/12/2020 20:07:33 1 1
bbc
There are some dubious degrees around these days, but to suggest that degrees do not equate to intelligence is prejudice of the highest order.
64
15/12/2020 11:39:25 17 3
bbc
This article makes clear that the sacrifices being demanded to "save our NHS" are being born mostly by low paid works. It is a pity that the voice of those doing the sacrificing is never heard above the noise of those demanding ever more sacrificing. Nor much explaining about how the sacrifices made to date seem to have made little difference.
97
15/12/2020 13:02:15 5 1
bbc
You've said what I said only so much better! Let's not forget that, for a lot of jobs in this gig economy, the minimum wage is now the maximum wage as well
53
15/12/2020 11:15:55 3 5
bbc
more remoaner lies ! England has the first vaccine ! Proof that Boris has done an exerlent job and that were better than any other county FACT ! much better than your so called failed eu supper state but the bbc cant report this coz it doesnt suite there agender !
98
15/12/2020 13:04:55 3 0
bbc
Wow.. Ignorance combined with poor grammar. Well done.
94
15/12/2020 12:53:28 3 5
bbc
Quite true.

Bozo has started many families and hasn't improved his leadership skills one jot.

However he's still a compulsive liar and a complete clown. For that he gets huge support in England. Many English people seemingly just love these "skills".
99
15/12/2020 13:09:23 7 3
bbc
But he can afford to, and you are probably just a naïve, young, lefty-BBC (etc)-influenced "Tory"-bashing bandwagon-jumper.
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15/12/2020 13:25:40 2 4
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Quite remarkable that you chose not to deny that he is a compulsive liar and complete clown in your reply.

That speaks volumes!

And given he has just led the UK Prison (I'm Scottish) into a £400 billion deficit this year, no one can afford to have this imbecile in charge.
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15/12/2020 13:12:41 15 0
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Get a trade if you can, some of the dizziest people I ever met had degrees to the moon and back. Its over sold in part education became an industry.
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15/12/2020 14:12:01 0 1
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Do something, anything, though you should focus on what you are good at and interested in. The do vs dont-do a degree because thats-what-I-did brigade are not acting in your interest, they just want make themselves feel better about what they did. Ask yourself "who do I know who adds nothing to society" then ask "do they have a degree" then think about the reasons behind the answer you got.