'New variant' of coronavirus identified in England
14/12/2020 | news | health | 2,914
The new strain may be growing faster in some parts of the country, Health Secretary tells MPs.
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BS
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rft
14/12/2020 16:30:15 16 6
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And you know this how?
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14/12/2020 16:30:45 7 3
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Where did you get your doctorate in medicine?
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14/12/2020 16:29:31 6 47
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I call BS
14/12/2020 18:27:37 3 2
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Now justify this assertion.
You have no evidence?
Oh! What a surprise.
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14/12/2020 16:29:35 8 6
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That’s all we need. ??
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jay
14/12/2020 16:29:42 6 47
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That must be a lie we were told coronavirus could not mutate. Or have we been lied to, again?
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14/12/2020 16:32:10 14 1
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All RNA viruses can mutate - that is their thing - due to faulty proof reading of the genome.
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OwO
14/12/2020 16:34:58 5 1
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No one from the govt. has ever said that.
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14/12/2020 16:35:28 6 1
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No, you are just talking rubbish.
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14/12/2020 16:36:05 7 1
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All virus" mutate, (cold, flu for example)
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14/12/2020 16:36:30 5 1
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Who said that? No one..
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14/12/2020 16:36:57 4 1
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No we have not. Where is this document that states that?
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14/12/2020 16:38:12 4 1
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All viruses mutate and they know it.
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14/12/2020 16:39:45 7 1
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?? No one (or at least no one credible or mainstream) has suggested this for a second. The potential for it to mutate has been a news story most of the year. They were reporting in the summer how it might mutate and require a new vaccine each year like the flue. There has already been a new strain that people caught on those mink farms.
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14/12/2020 16:35:36 3 1
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Who said it couldn't mutate?
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14/12/2020 16:29:44 6 15
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The moving goal posts...
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14/12/2020 17:45:15 8 1
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You were expecting a virus to play by some rules??
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14/12/2020 16:29:47 12 19
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If this is true then we need full lockdown in those areas otherwise the whole year has been a waste of time
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14/12/2020 16:36:02 8 6
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Unpopular though it would be, I'm inclined to agree with you. Seems the first few readers of your post don't, but heck - nail the sod while it is relatively confined. Isn't that what we would have hoped to do on the first wave, but couldn't (lack of knowledge, vaccine etc.) Everyone has said "dither and delay" caused the outbreak to be worse than necessary - so nail it this time. Hard and early.
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14/12/2020 16:30:01 2 18
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Doomed.
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14/12/2020 16:30:03 513 33
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Not surprising given the fact that viruses often mutate, let's hope existing vaccines are still effective in combatting this new strain
About 80% of infected people are already immune to Covid because of previous exposure to related Corona viruses. Removed
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And combating spelling mistakes,
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14/12/2020 16:48:20 27 22
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This is a variant, not a mutation. They sound similar but are not the same.
Carry on...
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14/12/2020 16:48:41 34 3
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It has been reported that the antigen that the vaccine recognises is on the virus spike which was not thought to mutate. The spike is the key that gets the virus into the cell. Let’s hope the key is unique.
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14/12/2020 16:53:48 24 90
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I honestly don't car anymore. The vast majority of the under 40's won't have any issues. They should shield the vulnerable and carry on as normal. Sedition is the only way to go.
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14/12/2020 17:00:16 58 37
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For it to mutate, it's needs hosts. So essentially everyone that's been so desperate to try and lead a normal life is ultimately responsible for its spread. How about making some sacrifices for once on your selfish lives??
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14/12/2020 17:06:09 2 6
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sounde as valid as the basis of national political decisions.

"lets hope"
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14/12/2020 17:09:16 20 10
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There was no announcement like this when other variants were discovered earlier in the year. I suspect it is just to support the measures they are taking as they haven’t got a clue what they are doing. It also explains why they are not providing any further information on it, they are becoming so predictable.
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14/12/2020 17:30:02 9 12
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Everyone must be vaccinated. Otherwise it's just a matter of time before a new strain evolves that ignores the antibodies generated by the current vaccines.
14/12/2020 18:49:41 1 4
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Keep hoping, that's what the UK govt. and people do best...which is why the deaths per million rate is the fifth highest in the world.
14/12/2020 18:58:28 1 3
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Examples of outrageous, egregious snobbery on here about a post that is meant to be a message of hope against the worst health crisis any living person has witnessed. Shame on you.
kh
14/12/2020 20:39:14 2 0
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Not all viruses mutate that much, but coronavirus do. that's why we get common colds all the time because the viruses mutate and we keep catching them.

That's actually good for us because mild strains give us protection against horrible things like SARS v1.
kh
14/12/2020 20:40:23 2 0
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You can see how terribly shocked Hancock was. why do we let a man who has all the scientific knowledge of a primary school kid run his ministry.
14/12/2020 20:45:15 1 0
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Yeah Viruses DO mutate, but why that should be a UK ONLY thing...smells like politics to me.
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14/12/2020 16:30:04 24 28
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If we could find a new variant of our PM, preferably a competent one.
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14/12/2020 16:34:20 1 1
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Hmm ... choices ... choices said nobody ever.
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14/12/2020 16:34:34 3 1
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Since when does a PM have the power to stop genetic mutations?
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14/12/2020 16:46:00 0 5
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SAGE and the media are the bigger problem, he’s incompetent, but if one wasn’t profiteering and the other wasn’t looking to attack him if he didn’t follow the (very narrow but that SAGE tell him to keep their interest in Pharma companies profitable) science’ he might make a good decision
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14/12/2020 16:28:33 9 47
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BS
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14/12/2020 16:30:15 16 6
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And you know this how?
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14/12/2020 16:30:24 13 44
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Just like the Flu which is why the vaccine will eventually prove to be useless. Waste of time and money. Protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let the rest of us get on with life.
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14/12/2020 16:32:18 15 1
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As long as the virus retains its "crown proteins", which they all do regardless of variant and there are many already, then the vaccine should remain effective.
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14/12/2020 16:33:07 10 1
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Are you seriously trying to say the flu vaccine is useless! There are too many morons in this country.
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14/12/2020 16:39:55 7 1
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"Just like the Flu which is why the vaccine will eventually prove to be useless".

Nope. The Flu vaccine is a mix of different variants to cover the various significant strains found earlier in the same year. We have never had a successful coronavirus vaccine before hence why the covid vaccines (particularly the mRNA based ones) are a fantastic development and are not useless.
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Still, at least the pharma companies that SAGE members consult for are
making lots of money eh! A suspicious person might think the advice they give the government is based on how much money they can make...
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14/12/2020 16:30:29 8 12
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swift and decisive action surely an oxymoron spoken by a govt one
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Just a thought - all those who refuse a vacination - name on a computer then if they get the disease they have to pay for their treatment. Removed
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14/12/2020 16:33:24 5 4
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lol so people should be punished for thier freedom of choice. Sounds very communist of you sir...
Fascist thinking. Removed
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14/12/2020 16:36:53 2 1
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Just a few thoughts, those who ride motorcycles and cars, those who smoke or drink, those who refuse to give up sport etc. Names on a computer and if they become ill or get injured they all have to pay for their treatment. Get real.
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14/12/2020 16:39:11 0 1
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Wow that's a slippery slope. Anyone taking part in sports who gets injured shouldn't get treatment in A & E if we follow your logic. Well it was their choice to take to participate right.
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14/12/2020 16:40:41 2 2
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Id be more than happy with this arrangement and I'm sure I'm not alone! After all it took the NHS 7 years to diagnose over 20 growths in my stomach which I paid for privately to be removed as I was getting nowhere with our world beating health system
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14/12/2020 16:41:59 0 2
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Absolutely fine with that. Carry on hiding
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14/12/2020 16:28:33 9 47
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BS
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14/12/2020 16:30:45 7 3
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Where did you get your doctorate in medicine?
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14/12/2020 16:31:00 3 37
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absolute BS - I was expecting this, way to ruin the Christmas we have all been promised. What a suprised
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14/12/2020 16:35:32 20 4
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losing one christmas out of 2,020 chistmases is not such a bad thing . . inorder to save lives of both young and old so they can enjoy many furture christmases.

Such a selfish TRUMPIAN attitude you have.
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14/12/2020 16:31:01 5 41
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Well, that's stuffed the vaccine, hasn't it?

Perhaps we should all have got it in the summer and THE VYRUSS wouldn't have had time to mutate.
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14/12/2020 16:32:14 16 3
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No
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14/12/2020 16:35:15 1 1
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My Son did and it almost killed him, another family member did die of it....
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14/12/2020 16:36:46 2 1
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So ignorant...
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14/12/2020 16:31:06 5 10
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Whatever..
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14/12/2020 16:31:13 243 13
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This only matters if the spike protein differs significantly from the other Covid variants. If much the same, then the vaccines should be just as effective.
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14/12/2020 16:36:14 126 92
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Interesting then that the government hasn't waited until the 16th as planned to put London into tier 3. They must be concerned or they would have waited.
14/12/2020 18:16:20 0 3
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Where did you get your medical schooling very impressive knowledge
14/12/2020 20:56:25 0 0
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In viruses, neutralising antibodies typically bind just a few amino acids at various spots on the spike protein around the docking site (where the spike attaches to the target cell) or around the hinge region of what is called the fusion peptide. The mutations of concern likely involve the docking site itself.
15/12/2020 10:14:04 0 0
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gotta love that word. "should".
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More rubbish, more lies! Lockdown 2.0 caused the latest spike and hospitals are breeding grounds clearly, are the NHS not washing their hands like they preach to us about!? Removed
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14/12/2020 16:31:34 117 66
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So now all we will hear is about London, London ,London ??
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14/12/2020 16:38:27 97 16
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What like all we heard about a few ago was Manchester, burnham, Manchester, burnham...not heard much about Wolverhampton...but that’s fair enough.
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Is there anywhere else ?
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14/12/2020 16:47:08 15 11
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I agree, Suddenly the London MP's are concerned about being in T3. They weren't bothered when the other areas were put in T2 and T3 months ago.
As if London matters. It doesn't. Ghengis's bleating for more money is just grandstanding. Removed
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14/12/2020 17:01:41 11 4
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Yawn! When manchester and liverpool were all moaning about going into lockdown all we heard was manchester and liverpool, get some perspective as well as a memory
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14/12/2020 17:24:50 1 2
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To quote Samuel Johnson:
"When a man is tired of London, he is tired of Life, for there is in London all that Life can afford".
'Tired of London' or not, I doubt that Covid-19 is something that Life in London can afford.
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14/12/2020 17:46:26 4 2
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Up here in Scotland it's all Glasgow.Glasgow.Glasgow. you'd think it's no where else if you watch the TV news BBC & STV.
14/12/2020 17:56:48 4 3
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As opposed to boring Andy Burnham....crying all the time!
14/12/2020 18:27:45 3 1
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Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that London has roughly the same population as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland combined
Rab
14/12/2020 19:23:25 0 0
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That’s what it’s always been about
14/12/2020 19:36:49 2 0
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that's where the money is made to keep the country afloat
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14/12/2020 16:31:35 379 50
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Virus does as virus does shocker! Same rules apply, socially distance and observe protocols where required. Simples!
Typical scare story from Hancock, disgraceful. Removed
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Economic collapse and 15 million unemployed! Simples!
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14/12/2020 16:44:34 29 17
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‘Simples’ are you describing the necessary actions to control Coronavirus? or the lack of mental abilities of those who feel caring for their for their fellow citizens isn’t for them?
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Its a start point - but the great unwashed have ignored such advice thus far.....
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14/12/2020 16:52:01 11 38
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No thanks I'll carry on as normal.
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14/12/2020 17:07:10 4 9
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Let's say the virus mutates regularly rendering vaccines ineffective for long term prevention. Will you be demanding these same rules forever Marshall? There's only so much of this nonsense I can take.
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14/12/2020 17:38:28 2 1
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Its not that simple for all 60 million of the UK to understand viruses mutating new strains.

So let the BBC inform them here.
14/12/2020 18:16:53 2 3
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Yes I agree totally. Follow the rules. The benefit is that flu and pneumonia deaths decrease by 90% as cause of death
14/12/2020 18:33:49 0 2
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Oh, you're soooooooo clever. What's with the patronising tone?
14/12/2020 20:09:47 0 1
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Tell that to my neighbours. House parties, friends sleeping over and generally not giving a flying doo dar about restrictions. could phone the police but they won't come out. Not high profile enough.
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But Coronavirus is going on holiday for the Christmas period?...
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14/12/2020 16:51:01 273 149
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Then don't go out!
But you're one of these people who needs the daily press conference to be told EXACTLY what to do and have the media ask the same, and let's be brutally honest, unbelievably stupid questions a million times just to placate, well, people like you!

Better still, use common sense! Like millions who've got on with it and to be honest are now FED UP with being treated like children
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Joking aside, they do have holidays during the summer, but let's not let that spoil the myth that the first lockdown had an effect.
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14/12/2020 17:13:02 26 30
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I don't particularly care anymore. I'll be seeing non vulnerable family and friends over Christmas. I'm mid 30's so even if I catch it, it's highly unlikely I'd have problems. Protect the vulnerable, otherwise crack on with your life.
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14/12/2020 17:29:16 6 7
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It seems to go on holiday whenever it means more votes for Bojo

Bit like the way it spreads quickly if you meet a friend for a chat, but goes into hiding if there's a payment point nearby, like in a restaurant.

Science works in strange ways.
14/12/2020 18:53:09 2 2
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And obviously obeys the tier borders...personally I think the idea of splitting the UK up into teeny weeny little tiers is completely MAD.
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Covid is spreading in schools.
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Or is it the variant that’s spread by partying journalists?
14/12/2020 20:33:36 3 0
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To be honest, schools here in Winchester have only had 4 cases between 3 schools. That's because people are actually trying to obey the rules. It's the places where there is no rule following that has gone exponential.
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We're Doomed ! Doomed !
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14/12/2020 16:42:59 1 3
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Quite true. My wife & I are in our 80's so 'doomed' we are. Can't really understand why all the wrinkles are getting it first. Stop us bunging up beds ? All very odd. Come to think of it do I really want to live in this World much longer ? Christmas on our own. Family prohibited. At long last. Thank you Covid.
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14/12/2020 16:40:32 0 2
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You’ll be fine if you comply, just never leave your home until nobody dies, ever again. Don’t get a genuinely deadly disease either, the NHS don’t care and PHE will say you died of the new strain
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14/12/2020 16:31:53 9 23
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First excuse why the vaccines don't work
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14/12/2020 16:31:55 5 13
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Were we told not to be unduly worried in January! I know viruses mutate but what is the mutation exactly and why mention when a Vaccine Plan has been hatched which will be affected by that little ditty for sure! Talk about poor communication and control again how inept are these people!
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14/12/2020 16:37:57 3 2
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It has always been know, and discussed, that viruses mutate. First you ask "why mention" it at all, then complain about "poor communication"??

Either you want them to tell you about it or not. Can't have it both ways.
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14/12/2020 16:31:58 7 21
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nothing to suggest" it caused worse disease or that vaccines would no longer work. Nothing to suggest the vaccine would work either, just like the flu
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14/12/2020 16:29:42 6 47
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That must be a lie we were told coronavirus could not mutate. Or have we been lied to, again?
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14/12/2020 16:32:10 14 1
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All RNA viruses can mutate - that is their thing - due to faulty proof reading of the genome.
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14/12/2020 16:38:02 0 13
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However we were told that this virus could not mutate so we only needed to get a vaccine that worked and we would all be safe. So many lies being told its difficult to keep track.
14/12/2020 19:09:28 1 1
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Higher forms of life mutate too or we would not be here to discuss it.
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14/12/2020 16:31:01 5 41
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Well, that's stuffed the vaccine, hasn't it?

Perhaps we should all have got it in the summer and THE VYRUSS wouldn't have had time to mutate.
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14/12/2020 16:32:14 16 3
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No
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14/12/2020 16:30:24 13 44
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Just like the Flu which is why the vaccine will eventually prove to be useless. Waste of time and money. Protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let the rest of us get on with life.
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14/12/2020 16:32:18 15 1
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As long as the virus retains its "crown proteins", which they all do regardless of variant and there are many already, then the vaccine should remain effective.
I wish they could find a new variant of Matt Hancock and the other hopeless chancers in this government. Removed
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There was a human version launched the other day on the morning news, but it displayed emotion and has ben withdrawn.
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14/12/2020 16:32:32 12 8
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Clever little f ker, ain't it?
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14/12/2020 16:32:36 8 20
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Matt Hancock - "Nothing to suggest the vaccine won't work. We are testing at Porton Down" hmmm... Nothing to suggest that it will work either!
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14/12/2020 16:37:14 1 1
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I suspect the sequence data that has identified the variant will give a strong indication on the likely effectiveness of the vaccine
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14/12/2020 16:32:47 7 2
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More good news on the COVID front but have to say there has been 100's of variations in this virus its what it does fingers cross it matches Hancock's pronouncement!
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14/12/2020 16:32:51 4 8
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I see on the Beeb today, Test and Trace workers complaining that people don't answer the phone.

I just ordered a home test for my daughter (you has a severe learning disability). Within two hours I got a scam text saying "thank you for your registration, confirm your details here" with a link.

Only knew it was a scam because it was addressed to me and not to my daughter.
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14/12/2020 16:45:44 2 3
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"complaining that people don't answer the phone"

Maybe, if they're isolating, they are ill. Maybe, therefore, they are in bed, and don't feel like answering the phone.

Or just in the shower / bath / toilet.

Or cooking.

Yet another example of the covid gestapo deciding we must dance to their tune, which is probably the Horst Wessel Song.
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14/12/2020 16:43:05 0 2
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Perhaps you gave your contact details as her contact ? Just saying
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Will Trump start calling it "The British Virus"? or a HOAX ?
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14/12/2020 16:35:34 10 2
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No it's definitely a Chinese virus.
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As if viruses have never mutated in the past... simple process of nature.

We see mutation. The virus sees evolution for survival.
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14/12/2020 16:41:23 57 4
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Very true. But we would have to be idiots not to monitor them and report them when they occur ... hmm ... oh my god I wonder how many more there are!
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14/12/2020 16:36:33 9 20
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So why bother with lockdowns? Surely herd immunity is the only way to go? If you’re immune system beats the original virus it can probably mutate to defeat the mutation. But SAGE and Hancock wouldn’t profit from that
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14/12/2020 16:50:17 10 2
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Oh no don't use the e word it might upset the god botherers!

It is a scientific fact viruses mutate/evolve. They have been here longer than we have and will probably be here long after us!
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Hancock sees opportunity for further scaremongering.
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14/12/2020 17:18:49 5 3
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Wouldn't it be amazing if we could Genetically Modify the virus to only get rid of stupid people who can't think for themselves. It would make the world a better place and thin out the population.
14/12/2020 18:52:26 0 1
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I would think by the math that Covid 19 has mutated 18 times
14/12/2020 20:14:15 0 1
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Humans have mutated into the likes of Boris!
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And when a dangerous variant arises the authorities could attempt to silence scientists, as they did in China.
15/12/2020 10:17:14 0 0
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I question this comment.

If you have an evolved logical brain (heh) then you apply logic and decision making.

virus don't have logic. they don't make decisions. they are a cell (?). virii are pure biological processes. do they "evolve" to "survive"? or do they just obey biological mechanisms.
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14/12/2020 16:30:24 13 44
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Just like the Flu which is why the vaccine will eventually prove to be useless. Waste of time and money. Protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let the rest of us get on with life.
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14/12/2020 16:33:07 10 1
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Are you seriously trying to say the flu vaccine is useless! There are too many morons in this country.
14/12/2020 18:01:52 2 5
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The minute you start name calling is the minute you lost the argument.

The reason I called it useless (the flue jab) is because they have to change it regularly to account for the different strains that might be prevalent at the time. Hence you might be taking something completely inappropriate for what's going around.

Anyway JimDNC, see how far you get calling people names to their face.
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I’ve never been a conspiracy theorist but I do understand why some people are! Sometimes it feels like the government will only be happy when they stop us living altogether
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14/12/2020 16:37:14 2 5
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finally people are seeing the light, LET US GET ON WITH OUR LIVES!!
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14/12/2020 16:40:05 2 1
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People are conspiracy theorists because their lives are dull and they want to feel a part of something. That is all. There are of course REAL conspiracies. But we don't know about them because ... well ... they're conspiracies
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You do understand that the government aren't actually DOING this, yes? They're not mutating anything.
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14/12/2020 16:33:22 11 21
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Doubtless the lockdown zealots will be telling us to stay in our houses for the next month.
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14/12/2020 16:38:48 5 1
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If by that you mean medical experts trying to end the pandemic, probably yes. Please will you obey the rules this time around?
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lol so people should be punished for thier freedom of choice. Sounds very communist of you sir...
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14/12/2020 16:38:08 0 1
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Choices have consequences - basic principle of free will.
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14/12/2020 16:33:46 16 20
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will you close the ports and borders down NOW

even a six year old could see keeping borders and ports wide open would be a disaster
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You don't like eating then?
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14/12/2020 17:18:36 1 1
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Thank goodness everyone doesn't have your selfish attitude or the travel sector really would be in trouble.
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14/12/2020 16:33:58 6 33
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Clearly if there is a new variant of the virus the vaccine will be ineffective so there is no point anyone having the vaccine since it wont protect against the new variant as it was only developed to protect against the one that existed previously. Another example of Hancock's incompetence. He needs to be sacked before he does any further damage to the country
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14/12/2020 16:37:52 3 2
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Hancock had no part in the Pfizer virus. Also new variant does not mean vaccine resistant. Vaccines are by their nature broad spectrum and this mutation is not going to be markedly different in the same way that budgerigars won't suddenly evolve into the bird equivalent of a sabre toothed tiger
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14/12/2020 16:38:42 2 1
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I take it you're a vaccine expect then?
Mmmm, thought not.
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14/12/2020 16:39:09 2 1
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Completely wrong, but hey never mind.
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14/12/2020 16:39:32 5 1
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How is a new varient Hancock's fault? Clueless post
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14/12/2020 16:42:42 4 1
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You are simply incorrect. Whether or not the vaccine is effective depends on what the nature of the virus is and what makes this variant different. All species mutate, but established vaccines against diphtheria and polio still work
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14/12/2020 16:44:51 4 1
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Let's wait for the facts from scientists before we all listen to your poorly informed opinion shall we.
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Just a thought - all those who refuse a vacination - name on a computer then if they get the disease they have to pay for their treatment. Removed
Fascist thinking. Removed
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14/12/2020 16:30:04 24 28
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If we could find a new variant of our PM, preferably a competent one.
46
14/12/2020 16:34:20 1 1
bbc
Hmm ... choices ... choices said nobody ever.
47
14/12/2020 16:34:21 12 20
bbc
If we DID get a new variant which reset our vaccine efforts - I for one am going back to normal, another year of this and you'll see a higher suicide rate than covid deaths
89
14/12/2020 16:37:51 0 6
bbc
100%
9
14/12/2020 16:30:04 24 28
bbc
If we could find a new variant of our PM, preferably a competent one.
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OwO
14/12/2020 16:34:34 3 1
bbc
Since when does a PM have the power to stop genetic mutations?
49
14/12/2020 16:34:36 13 16
bbc
I bet people in Manchester and Liverpool now are laughing that London has now gone into the same tier as them.
63
14/12/2020 16:36:02 16 1
bbc
Isn't Liverpool in tier 2?
65
14/12/2020 16:36:03 3 3
bbc
I bet London will get more financial support.
14/12/2020 17:57:53 0 1
bbc
Why, are the people of Manchester and Liverpool really horrible then?
50
14/12/2020 16:34:47 6 26
bbc
Who cares, I have decided that as the Government are advising we take the vaccine I will ignore the advise; after today's draconian announcement to try and kill London's economy I will abide by mandatory rules only
4
jay
14/12/2020 16:29:42 6 47
bbc
That must be a lie we were told coronavirus could not mutate. Or have we been lied to, again?
51
OwO
14/12/2020 16:34:58 5 1
bbc
No one from the govt. has ever said that.
43
14/12/2020 16:33:46 16 20
bbc
will you close the ports and borders down NOW

even a six year old could see keeping borders and ports wide open would be a disaster
52
14/12/2020 16:35:06 8 6
bbc
You don't like eating then?
395
14/12/2020 16:58:21 0 2
bbc
We don't eat tourists in this country. Nobody said stop the flow of goods.
53
14/12/2020 16:35:10 17 15
bbc
Very concerned that MH doesn't understand the implications here.

We found 200 plus introducing strains when we started so why is this news?

This is the most important question - if it's not deadlier and there is no reason to suggest it spreads quicker or reinfects already recovered patients - why does it matter?

Suspicious this is Tier 3 trojan horse - don't make up stuff - just say and do.
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Mup
14/12/2020 16:42:59 23 11
bbc
When Covid spread in the North it was because 'no one is following the rules' - dirty northerners. Now Covid is spreading in the South 'it's because it is a new variant' - clearly...
185
OwO
14/12/2020 16:44:34 4 2
bbc
He's announcing something because it's been discovered. If he didn't, you'd be complaining about a coverup. Not everything is a conspiracy.
225
14/12/2020 16:47:03 5 1
bbc
Because it does spread quicker. Read the article, listen to his speech and try to use the grey matter in your bonce before posting nonsense
543
14/12/2020 17:11:01 0 0
bbc
Did you actually read the article?

Looks at user name.

Probably not.
54
14/12/2020 16:35:10 134 23
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algr
16:31
"We're Doomed ! Doomed !"

Well start with the premise that 95% of species ever to walk this earth are extinct and you are bob on. Humans will join that extinction one day. Mother Nature will keep throwing curve balls at us until she is rid of us...
88
14/12/2020 16:37:51 116 5
bbc
Merry xmas one and all!
240
14/12/2020 16:47:42 4 1
bbc
... and just as we were hitting our stride ...
338
14/12/2020 16:54:25 8 2
bbc
Good riddance to a nasty violent freak of a species
816
14/12/2020 17:13:13 0 0
bbc
None of the other species suffered their ‘betters’ telling them to hide indoors waiting for extinction.
946
14/12/2020 17:49:25 3 0
bbc
The Earth only really ever "re-sets" when an Extinction Event occurs, the dominant species is wiped out and another Epoch begins.
This time around we have an "over-dominant" species.
14/12/2020 18:00:39 4 2
bbc
Humans are the first; and only species to be able to destroy themselves. We do like to jeopardise our chances somewhat.
14/12/2020 18:16:58 2 0
bbc
Mother Nature is not the enemy, there is no "this and that" This kind of thinking is why we are having climate and other problems. Everything is connected and short term-ism is left wanting.
14/12/2020 18:43:24 0 1
bbc
You started right DOOMED !
14/12/2020 19:25:00 2 0
bbc
Mother Nature is not a collective Intelligence. Odd statement.
14/12/2020 22:05:16 0 0
bbc
How can you or indeed anyone possibly know that statistic is true?

It reminds me of the ludicrous claim made some years ago that "millions of species have died out before they were even discovered". That will be like the millions of miles of railway that were closed and torn up before they were ever built, then.
55
14/12/2020 16:35:11 15 23
bbc
At this point wouldn't it be better, and safer, just to put the whole of the UK into lockdown. All these tiers, travelling between tiers, areas in Wales, Scottish rules, etc are just totally confusing.

Compensate businesses but close hospitality, theatres and sport until vaccination is almost complete at the end of winter, then review and re-open those parts of the economy.
90
14/12/2020 16:37:51 6 3
bbc
I think you might be applying too much logic and sense to the situation.
95
14/12/2020 16:38:00 2 1
bbc
Is it the public sector or comfortably retired bracket you fit into?
134
14/12/2020 16:40:30 1 1
bbc
Yeah, cos it's been such as success so far.
194
14/12/2020 16:45:16 0 1
bbc
A sensible idea in principle, but sadly I fear there is no longer enough money to be had or that the country can afford to repay to compensate locked down businesses and their employees to the degree that is necessary to keep them afloat/solvent.
311
14/12/2020 16:52:33 1 1
bbc
If anyone is in doubt/confused by the tier system...

THEN YOU SHOULD STAY INDOORS!
56
14/12/2020 16:35:15 1 3
bbc
Are you aware BBC you are still showing Live House Of Commons on 231 and 232 Please get the news station back to work
17
14/12/2020 16:31:01 5 41
bbc
Well, that's stuffed the vaccine, hasn't it?

Perhaps we should all have got it in the summer and THE VYRUSS wouldn't have had time to mutate.
57
14/12/2020 16:35:15 1 1
bbc
My Son did and it almost killed him, another family member did die of it....
4
jay
14/12/2020 16:29:42 6 47
bbc
That must be a lie we were told coronavirus could not mutate. Or have we been lied to, again?
58
14/12/2020 16:35:28 6 1
bbc
No, you are just talking rubbish.
59
MVP
14/12/2020 16:35:29 58 8
bbc
Let's hope that he science keeps pace with nature here.
477
14/12/2020 17:05:46 21 4
bbc
Even your science correspondent said:
"And so far we've been given the "scare""
So I don't know why you removed my comment BBC...
663
14/12/2020 17:00:54 5 3
bbc
SAGE are following the money, not nature
14/12/2020 18:07:43 0 4
bbc
Science has been mutating nature quite a lot. This virus may have come from a laboratory. Encouraging the youth to be scientists and not philosophers will poison our environment and hasten our end.
Rab
14/12/2020 19:22:31 0 0
bbc
Mmmmm
14/12/2020 19:29:28 0 1
bbc
Thats exactly what capitalists are saying everywhere.. And carry on..
16
14/12/2020 16:31:00 3 37
bbc
absolute BS - I was expecting this, way to ruin the Christmas we have all been promised. What a suprised
60
14/12/2020 16:35:32 20 4
bbc
losing one christmas out of 2,020 chistmases is not such a bad thing . . inorder to save lives of both young and old so they can enjoy many furture christmases.

Such a selfish TRUMPIAN attitude you have.
111
14/12/2020 16:39:16 4 3
bbc
losing 1 xmas from 2,020 xmas that went through global wars, spanish flu, black death........... stuff that really killed people!
147
14/12/2020 16:41:22 2 4
bbc
We have lost a whole year and all we are being fed on the news is BS, this story is all over the place and changing every week. It causing more damage to people than covid itself - are you too brainwashed to see that?
318
14/12/2020 16:52:59 4 1
bbc
Technically they didn’t celebrate at least the first 33 and Cromwell also banned it for 16 years
370
14/12/2020 16:56:22 2 1
bbc
Sorry mate, but Christmas hasn't been going that long.
14/12/2020 21:33:54 0 0
bbc
Blimey, how long are you expecting to live for!?!
37
14/12/2020 16:32:55 6 10
bbc
Will Trump start calling it "The British Virus"? or a HOAX ?
61
14/12/2020 16:35:34 10 2
bbc
No it's definitely a Chinese virus.
62
14/12/2020 16:35:48 5 5
bbc
There'll be loads of covid variants although it does depend on your definition of variant. This is news because they have specifically identified one that's all

Probably a fair guess that the more it has mutated the less effective the vaccine
87
14/12/2020 16:37:37 9 3
bbc
Probably a fair guess that the more it has mutated the less effective the vaccine

No Total Guess.
92
14/12/2020 16:37:55 3 2
bbc
Not a fair guess at all. The vaccine could just as easily be more effective. This is the problem at the moment; everything moves so quickly and the media, desperate to report anything put in scary headlines.
157
14/12/2020 16:42:26 1 3
bbc
Oh dear. I did say probably. The more it's mutated the less likely the vaccine will be just as good. You might be lucky though - it could be just as or even more effective
49
14/12/2020 16:34:36 13 16
bbc
I bet people in Manchester and Liverpool now are laughing that London has now gone into the same tier as them.
63
14/12/2020 16:36:02 16 1
bbc
Isn't Liverpool in tier 2?
130
14/12/2020 16:40:10 5 1
bbc
It’s in tier 2, but nothing to laugh about
173
14/12/2020 16:43:29 3 1
bbc
Yes and infection rate still coming down.
277
14/12/2020 16:49:39 2 2
bbc
And cases falling. People who believe lockdowns work have to believe the people of London were following the rules better than the people of Liverpool a couple of months ago and now, for some inexplicable reason, the people of Liverpool are now following the rules better than the people of London. Has there been a mass migration from North to South and vice versa? Lockdowns don't work.
6
14/12/2020 16:29:47 12 19
bbc
If this is true then we need full lockdown in those areas otherwise the whole year has been a waste of time
64
14/12/2020 16:36:02 8 6
bbc
Unpopular though it would be, I'm inclined to agree with you. Seems the first few readers of your post don't, but heck - nail the sod while it is relatively confined. Isn't that what we would have hoped to do on the first wave, but couldn't (lack of knowledge, vaccine etc.) Everyone has said "dither and delay" caused the outbreak to be worse than necessary - so nail it this time. Hard and early.
308
14/12/2020 16:52:05 0 3
bbc
It’s a fast spreading variant that behaves differently rendering these new vaccines redundant. If it’s confident to south east then we need full lockdown in those areas whilst the science catches up. Or do we wait like in the spring for the deaths to hit 1000s per day before we act again?
49
14/12/2020 16:34:36 13 16
bbc
I bet people in Manchester and Liverpool now are laughing that London has now gone into the same tier as them.
65
14/12/2020 16:36:03 3 3
bbc
I bet London will get more financial support.
4
jay
14/12/2020 16:29:42 6 47
bbc
That must be a lie we were told coronavirus could not mutate. Or have we been lied to, again?
66
14/12/2020 16:36:05 7 1
bbc
All virus" mutate, (cold, flu for example)
19
14/12/2020 16:31:13 243 13
bbc
This only matters if the spike protein differs significantly from the other Covid variants. If much the same, then the vaccines should be just as effective.
67
14/12/2020 16:36:14 126 92
bbc
Interesting then that the government hasn't waited until the 16th as planned to put London into tier 3. They must be concerned or they would have waited.
125
14/12/2020 16:39:53 69 5
bbc
or they thought why wait if cases are rising rapidly? Not everything is a conspiracy.
135
14/12/2020 16:40:34 48 3
bbc
Midnight Wednesday is the 16th ...
186
14/12/2020 16:44:36 19 4
bbc
Hey! Are you frightened eh@ AP READ. ooooooooo!

The MSN and the government have worked their trick on you.

All viruses mutate!!!! It's damn obvious to anyone. Unless the attachment protein is significantly different (which it almost never ever is), you are fine. The vaccine still works!
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Bob
14/12/2020 16:47:21 8 4
bbc
If it was serious concern then measures would be harder than what essentially amounts to business as usual except close the pubs and restaurants.
386
14/12/2020 16:57:55 9 11
bbc
I think irs part of the plan to keep the north in tier 3
948
14/12/2020 17:49:28 2 2
bbc
Very much doubt they're concerned by the new strain. London should have been in lockdown weeks ago, add to that the shopping frenzy and boom, perfect storm.
This is a nice little cover for the Conservatives as to why they have to close now
987
14/12/2020 17:52:10 6 1
bbc
That's good news, should have been in tier 3 like the rest of us weeks ago. Only prolonged the inevitable
14/12/2020 18:17:03 0 1
bbc
No, it’s still going to be Wednesday. They’ve just announced it today
14/12/2020 18:39:51 2 1
bbc
London and the whole of the South East should have been in Tier 3 from the start
of the tier system. Most populated, most likely to disobey any "rules".
14/12/2020 19:11:23 1 1
bbc
They should have been in Tier 3 at least three weeks ago - but then again it’s London!
14/12/2020 19:51:26 0 0
bbc
Perhaps the Government actually listened to the science and acted accordingly, rather tha what they previously decided upon because of the need for Political gain from the Economists, proffessional and amatuer alike.
14/12/2020 20:02:51 0 0
bbc
very apt comment
14/12/2020 20:19:58 0 0
bbc
This shows leadership, well done uk government
68
14/12/2020 16:36:14 4 9
bbc
Covid is just a varient of Flu virus & that mutates ,so why shouldnt covid . I thought it would have been obvious that this was going to happen .It maybe that in the end we will have to let it run its course & accept the death toll ,until the human race has built up natural immunity
121
14/12/2020 16:39:41 1 1
bbc
"Covid is just a varient of Flu virus"

It isn't.

It's a variant of the cold virus (es). Flu is cause by a different group of viruses.
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OwO
14/12/2020 16:41:51 1 1
bbc
It's obvious that it would, yes. The point of this announcement and article is to state that it now has. No one was pretending otherwise.
69
14/12/2020 16:36:17 6 10
bbc
New Covid variant may be behind fast spread of cases....could we get some independent scientific proof do you think? I certainly wouldn't trust Hancock, Johnson or any of the other simpletons in the Govt. My first thought was that this smells like another desperate excuse by the Govt to try to deflect attention and blame away from their inept handling of UK response to the Coronavirus Pandemic.
159
14/12/2020 16:42:32 1 1
bbc
That will surely be forthcoming.
301
14/12/2020 16:51:33 1 1
bbc
So your first thought is to fit to a received political narrative? All we have is scientific opinion on some probably patchy data so far. Scientific “proof” (that is published papers and acres of data and reproducibility) is months away. Gov has to consider risk based on unknowns and take precautions- failure to do that early this year was the ineptitude you now criticise.
70
14/12/2020 16:36:25 10 16
bbc
There are hundreds of Corona viruses. The one they at war with at the moment is not even classified as a High Consequence Infectious Disease, but they have wrecked the economy over it.
God help us if the authoritarians overreact to every cold virus.
You really are gormless! Removed
152
14/12/2020 16:41:54 0 3
bbc
The economy would have been wrecked if 250,000 died and millions more got ill from it! Nobody would go out.
4
jay
14/12/2020 16:29:42 6 47
bbc
That must be a lie we were told coronavirus could not mutate. Or have we been lied to, again?
71
14/12/2020 16:36:30 5 1
bbc
Who said that? No one..
72
14/12/2020 16:36:36 11 8
bbc
BBC in virus mutates headline shocker.
283
14/12/2020 16:50:04 8 7
bbc
Good old BBC, they could make a scuffle at a village fete sound like a full blown inner city riot !! Disgrace !!
73
14/12/2020 16:36:38 2 7
bbc
New Variant found

Yet, the Gov has threatened to SUE over the closure of Schools in London
122
14/12/2020 16:39:42 0 3
bbc
Yes because the damage to the economy is greater in the short and long term to close schools than anything else.
132
14/12/2020 16:40:23 0 1
bbc
That was before the announcement of the new strain.
74
14/12/2020 16:36:43 21 27
bbc
The really annoying part is LOTS of people WANT these damn restrictions despite mountains of evidence showing THEY DON'T WORK!

'Its easier to fool people than convince them they've been fooled' Mark Twain
115
14/12/2020 16:39:30 2 12
bbc
If they do not work, then it could be because not tough enough! Why are people allowed out for exercise?

Staying indoors will minimise the risk of catching this or any other resporatory virus.
161
14/12/2020 16:42:34 3 4
bbc
They don't work because people won't follow the restrictions! I see, on various sources, people in public houses posing for selfies, arms around each other's shoulders, faces literally inches apart, kids walking to school in groups, walking with barely 6 inches between them ... (1)
170
14/12/2020 16:43:05 2 3
bbc
A Welsh Facebook 'friend' of mine was arranging a party for her daughter's 18th and she was arranging it in a holiday let she owns and was inviting over 20 other girls, from all over the UK! ... The restrictions WOULD work if everyone acted correctly by them! (2)
171
14/12/2020 16:43:20 2 1
bbc
Strange how the government turn to our eminent medical scientists not the fools who think they know better on the likes of HYS etc.......did you learn that from Facebook?
609
14/12/2020 17:16:33 0 1
bbc
Absolutely! Well said.
75
14/12/2020 16:36:45 4 12
bbc
here we go odious hancock wants to carry on with his power trip and lockdown the country for good..
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OwO
14/12/2020 16:39:34 3 1
bbc
"He said there was "nothing to suggest" it caused worse disease or that vaccines would no longer work."

AKA: he's letting people know, but the only case being made in regard to lockdowns is that this won't affect them. How does that reconcile with your conspiracy?
17
14/12/2020 16:31:01 5 41
bbc
Well, that's stuffed the vaccine, hasn't it?

Perhaps we should all have got it in the summer and THE VYRUSS wouldn't have had time to mutate.
76
14/12/2020 16:36:46 2 1
bbc
So ignorant...
77
W1A
14/12/2020 16:29:07 8 4
bbc
Pesky little critter is getting sneaky...
Just a thought - all those who refuse a vacination - name on a computer then if they get the disease they have to pay for their treatment. Removed
78
14/12/2020 16:36:53 2 1
bbc
Just a few thoughts, those who ride motorcycles and cars, those who smoke or drink, those who refuse to give up sport etc. Names on a computer and if they become ill or get injured they all have to pay for their treatment. Get real.
79
14/12/2020 16:36:53 22 5
bbc
cjb2
16:34
"I bet people in Manchester and Liverpool now are laughing that London has now gone into the same tier as them."

Liverpool is in Tier 2.

Manchester and Lancashire are in T3 but many individual boroughs should be T2. Now London has gone T3 our hopes are shattered as we will need to suffer like London.
103
14/12/2020 16:38:41 12 3
bbc
I was praying we would go into tier 2 but you are right we will all have to suffer with them!
133
14/12/2020 16:40:24 1 4
bbc
No I'm not.

Plus I'm not convinced it isn't a sop to keep us all under lockdown with minimal protests.
279
14/12/2020 16:49:49 4 5
bbc
yes, God forbid that area's outside London are in a lower tier than Bungler's Precious London
924
14/12/2020 17:47:41 1 0
bbc
I’m sure I & everyone else in tier 3 Manchester isn’t laughing but it does see the anti Burnham people could’nt wait to get is into 3 & to keep London out as long as possible
14/12/2020 18:07:30 1 0
bbc
Even though Manchester has a rate about 25% of London.
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Si
14/12/2020 16:36:57 249 24
bbc
I wanted to see what this news REALLY meant, so I went straight to the comments section!
113
14/12/2020 16:39:22 269 16
bbc
Can't go wrong with armchair experts, mate.
989
14/12/2020 17:52:29 0 2
bbc
Karen on Facebook replaced by Karen on HYS
14/12/2020 18:07:16 4 0
bbc
Apparently dave from Essex brought it back from tenerife..
14/12/2020 20:43:40 1 0
bbc
Expert? No, I do know my way around an armchair though.
4
jay
14/12/2020 16:29:42 6 47
bbc
That must be a lie we were told coronavirus could not mutate. Or have we been lied to, again?
81
14/12/2020 16:36:57 4 1
bbc
No we have not. Where is this document that states that?
34
14/12/2020 16:32:36 8 20
bbc
Matt Hancock - "Nothing to suggest the vaccine won't work. We are testing at Porton Down" hmmm... Nothing to suggest that it will work either!
82
14/12/2020 16:37:14 1 1
bbc
I suspect the sequence data that has identified the variant will give a strong indication on the likely effectiveness of the vaccine
40
14/12/2020 16:33:20 10 28
bbc
I’ve never been a conspiracy theorist but I do understand why some people are! Sometimes it feels like the government will only be happy when they stop us living altogether
83
14/12/2020 16:37:14 2 5
bbc
finally people are seeing the light, LET US GET ON WITH OUR LIVES!!
84
14/12/2020 16:37:25 5 3
bbc
So the big question is...does the new vaccine protect against this??
993
14/12/2020 17:41:43 0 1
bbc
No, nor any of the other variants. You’ve been played
85
14/12/2020 16:37:25 13 17
bbc
More fear
86
14/12/2020 16:37:35 2 10
bbc
Funny how they think the vaccine will still work though

Just sayin...
62
14/12/2020 16:35:48 5 5
bbc
There'll be loads of covid variants although it does depend on your definition of variant. This is news because they have specifically identified one that's all

Probably a fair guess that the more it has mutated the less effective the vaccine
87
14/12/2020 16:37:37 9 3
bbc
Probably a fair guess that the more it has mutated the less effective the vaccine

No Total Guess.
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14/12/2020 16:35:10 134 23
bbc
algr
16:31
"We're Doomed ! Doomed !"

Well start with the premise that 95% of species ever to walk this earth are extinct and you are bob on. Humans will join that extinction one day. Mother Nature will keep throwing curve balls at us until she is rid of us...
88
14/12/2020 16:37:51 116 5
bbc
Merry xmas one and all!
14/12/2020 21:25:19 1 0
bbc
Nah humbug ya twit
47
14/12/2020 16:34:21 12 20
bbc
If we DID get a new variant which reset our vaccine efforts - I for one am going back to normal, another year of this and you'll see a higher suicide rate than covid deaths
89
14/12/2020 16:37:51 0 6
bbc
100%
55
14/12/2020 16:35:11 15 23
bbc
At this point wouldn't it be better, and safer, just to put the whole of the UK into lockdown. All these tiers, travelling between tiers, areas in Wales, Scottish rules, etc are just totally confusing.

Compensate businesses but close hospitality, theatres and sport until vaccination is almost complete at the end of winter, then review and re-open those parts of the economy.
90
14/12/2020 16:37:51 6 3
bbc
I think you might be applying too much logic and sense to the situation.
44
14/12/2020 16:33:58 6 33
bbc
Clearly if there is a new variant of the virus the vaccine will be ineffective so there is no point anyone having the vaccine since it wont protect against the new variant as it was only developed to protect against the one that existed previously. Another example of Hancock's incompetence. He needs to be sacked before he does any further damage to the country
91
14/12/2020 16:37:52 3 2
bbc
Hancock had no part in the Pfizer virus. Also new variant does not mean vaccine resistant. Vaccines are by their nature broad spectrum and this mutation is not going to be markedly different in the same way that budgerigars won't suddenly evolve into the bird equivalent of a sabre toothed tiger
62
14/12/2020 16:35:48 5 5
bbc
There'll be loads of covid variants although it does depend on your definition of variant. This is news because they have specifically identified one that's all

Probably a fair guess that the more it has mutated the less effective the vaccine
92
14/12/2020 16:37:55 3 2
bbc
Not a fair guess at all. The vaccine could just as easily be more effective. This is the problem at the moment; everything moves so quickly and the media, desperate to report anything put in scary headlines.
215
14/12/2020 16:46:34 0 1
bbc
Given the principles of Darwin, the more reasonable bet would be it is less deadly - not the best interests for procreation to kill the host, generally restricts the capability to replicate

Although jury is out if viruses are classified as "living" though, and so Darwin's principles might not apply.
Still, this has been a pattern for many other deadly infections - evolving to be less deadly to us
27
14/12/2020 16:31:55 5 13
bbc
Were we told not to be unduly worried in January! I know viruses mutate but what is the mutation exactly and why mention when a Vaccine Plan has been hatched which will be affected by that little ditty for sure! Talk about poor communication and control again how inept are these people!
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OwO
14/12/2020 16:37:57 3 2
bbc
It has always been know, and discussed, that viruses mutate. First you ask "why mention" it at all, then complain about "poor communication"??

Either you want them to tell you about it or not. Can't have it both ways.
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14/12/2020 16:37:58 2 1
bbc
To avoid immediate panic if it follows other numerous versions..

Our results suggest that, to date, the limited diversity seen in SARS-CoV-2 should not preclude a single vaccine from providing global protection.

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/38/23652
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14/12/2020 16:35:11 15 23
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At this point wouldn't it be better, and safer, just to put the whole of the UK into lockdown. All these tiers, travelling between tiers, areas in Wales, Scottish rules, etc are just totally confusing.

Compensate businesses but close hospitality, theatres and sport until vaccination is almost complete at the end of winter, then review and re-open those parts of the economy.
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14/12/2020 16:38:00 2 1
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Is it the public sector or comfortably retired bracket you fit into?
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14/12/2020 16:32:10 14 1
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All RNA viruses can mutate - that is their thing - due to faulty proof reading of the genome.
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jay
14/12/2020 16:38:02 0 13
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However we were told that this virus could not mutate so we only needed to get a vaccine that worked and we would all be safe. So many lies being told its difficult to keep track.
14/12/2020 18:28:35 2 1
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Who said this and where?
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14/12/2020 16:38:02 2 2
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Will be interesting to see if there is any evidence in time to suggest whether lockdown pressure can reduce how long the natural mutations to a milder more infectious variant takes to happen. It would make sense that lockdown pressure helps benefit a more infectious strain.
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14/12/2020 16:33:24 5 4
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lol so people should be punished for thier freedom of choice. Sounds very communist of you sir...
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14/12/2020 16:38:08 0 1
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Choices have consequences - basic principle of free will.
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jay
14/12/2020 16:29:42 6 47
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That must be a lie we were told coronavirus could not mutate. Or have we been lied to, again?
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14/12/2020 16:38:12 4 1
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All viruses mutate and they know it.
14/12/2020 19:11:04 1 1
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Doubt if the variant confers self awareness ha ha
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14/12/2020 16:38:24 2 5
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to think No deal would have closed the UK Borders down saving us from an endless line
of corona virus out breaks .

can't wait until 1.4 million people return to the UK after there Christmas holidays abroad 4 to 14 of Jan 2021 .

I wonder what new strain of corona virus they will bring back to the UK

open ports and Borders MADNESS
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14/12/2020 16:54:46 1 2
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Thank goodness everyone doesn't have your selfish attitude or the travel sector really would be in trouble.