Westwood win bucks golf's youthful trend
14/12/2020 | sport | golf | 196
Lee Westwood's longevity and continued excellence in a sport that grows ever more youthful is quite staggering, writes Iain Carter.
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14/12/2020 14:02:18 63 1
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There is an old saying

Form is temporary class is permanent.

Lee is the epitome of that truism.
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14/12/2020 15:07:05 4 46
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VERY stupid saying
Was said of Ian Botham when he was fat and could only bowl at half pace
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14/12/2020 23:07:50 1 5
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Sportsmen that clearly didn't follow the saying "form is temporary class is permanent;"

Fernando Torres
Des Walker
Ian Botham
Jason Gillespie
Eric Bristow
Seve Ballesteros
Marat Safin
Wayne Rooney

All of these were top players in their field, but their form disappeared at a time when they should have been around their prime.
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14/12/2020 14:06:29 61 1
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I would have loved to have heard Peter Alliss commentating on this....
"wily old fox" showing the "whippersnappers" how it's done !
RIP Peter. Congrats Lee
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15/12/2020 16:44:41 1 0
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He would probably have said, "Golf isn't played between tee and green, it's played between your ears".
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14/12/2020 14:06:49 2 30
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Still can't win a major though.
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14/12/2020 14:06:58 4 12
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Very good thru the green but one of the worst short putters on the tour at present. You just have to look at his last Ryder Cup to confirm this.
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14/12/2020 17:03:51 3 0
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No he isn't. Look at the strokes gained putting over the season.
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14/12/2020 14:11:20 14 0
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Just goes to show that power isn't everything!!
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14/12/2020 14:12:05 1 28
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47 year old Englishman? Maybe when his form drops he will go back to being referred to as Welsh
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14/12/2020 14:17:12 2 7
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My bad!! Got confused with Woodman #backinthebox
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14/12/2020 14:17:31 1 2
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Woosnam!!!!!! Aaaarrrrggggghhhb
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14/12/2020 14:12:16 34 1
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Fantastic show all round. Well done to the European Tour for putting on such a great schedule, all the players for the quality of the golf, Patrick Reed for competing so well, Matt Fitzpatrick for the win, but most of all to Lee Westwood for showing us what quality and class are all about.
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14/12/2020 14:13:27 7 26
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What a state European golf is in ifwestwood at nearly 50 can win the race to Dubai, shambles ??????????
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14/12/2020 14:38:30 18 3
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.. so it's a shambles? How do you square that with the fact Europe keeps winning the Ryder Cup?
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14/12/2020 16:37:10 1 1
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Many golfers in the top 20 of the WORLD Golf Rankings compete in the race to Dubai.
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14/12/2020 17:02:25 4 0
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Were you saying that when the 43 year old Woods won the Masters?
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14/12/2020 14:15:00 5 8
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Well played Lee. I hope there are many more to come. But please - it does not take 'GUTS' to win a golf tournament!!!
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14/12/2020 14:17:24 11 2
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How would you know? Have you ever won a professional event?
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sfc
14/12/2020 14:21:25 2 6
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Absolutely not but not relevant to the comment. I would presume you win a golf tournament by playing the best golf in the tournament. What has that got to do with having GUTS?
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14/12/2020 14:12:05 1 28
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47 year old Englishman? Maybe when his form drops he will go back to being referred to as Welsh
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14/12/2020 14:17:12 2 7
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My bad!! Got confused with Woodman #backinthebox
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sfc
14/12/2020 14:15:00 5 8
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Well played Lee. I hope there are many more to come. But please - it does not take 'GUTS' to win a golf tournament!!!
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14/12/2020 14:17:24 11 2
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How would you know? Have you ever won a professional event?
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14/12/2020 14:12:05 1 28
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47 year old Englishman? Maybe when his form drops he will go back to being referred to as Welsh
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14/12/2020 14:17:31 1 2
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Woosnam!!!!!! Aaaarrrrggggghhhb
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14/12/2020 14:18:15 10 3
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Just over 2,000 were watching on Sky, no wonder sponsors are pulling out.
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14/12/2020 14:58:00 11 3
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I know, the Women’s US Open has been a laughably mediocre standard punctuated with boredom at its very core. No wonder the LET has been dead for quite some time.

And Sky had their highest ET viewing figures... “with the tournament average figures for the Aberdeen Standard Investments Scottish Open and last week’s BMW PGA Championship up 81 per cent compared to 2019”

Off you pop.
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14/12/2020 15:46:52 3 1
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Where did you get this figure from?
Evidence, please.....
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DBF
14/12/2020 17:07:00 4 1
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Do you just come on here to slag sky off? The bbc walked away from The Open a year earlier than planned as they couldn’t be bothered. If you want to watch sport then you sky or other pay tv providers are where it’s at. Also where’s your proof that only 2000 people watched it I smell BS
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14/12/2020 21:46:41 4 4
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I believe it was just under 2,000. But it was still their biggest golf audience of the year.
That's what happens when you have a team of failed golfers trying to comment on what golfers who are actually successful are doing.

Word is that 'Bob' MacIntyre will added their line up over the winter now that he's realised he can't mix it with the big boys lol.
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14/12/2020 14:15:00 5 8
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Well played Lee. I hope there are many more to come. But please - it does not take 'GUTS' to win a golf tournament!!!
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sfc
14/12/2020 14:21:25 2 6
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Absolutely not but not relevant to the comment. I would presume you win a golf tournament by playing the best golf in the tournament. What has that got to do with having GUTS?
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14/12/2020 14:31:29 2 2
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Golf is a risk and reward game, we’ve seen plenty have the guts to apply it in their game at the right and wrong time, a lot it has come off for, a lot it has not. That’s where the guts comes into it. Playing safe only helps when you’re way out in the lead on the last day, with most of the field in the clubhouse.
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14/12/2020 17:01:19 1 1
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Take a look at the pictures of his preparation with the physios. That's GUTS.
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14/12/2020 14:29:40 1 23
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combine some women players which may improve the viewers and add some interest
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14/12/2020 16:33:11 6 2
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They can't compete on power, which is needed to compete in mens golf.. Has been tried many times, and they are embarressed
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sfc
14/12/2020 14:21:25 2 6
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Absolutely not but not relevant to the comment. I would presume you win a golf tournament by playing the best golf in the tournament. What has that got to do with having GUTS?
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14/12/2020 14:31:29 2 2
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Golf is a risk and reward game, we’ve seen plenty have the guts to apply it in their game at the right and wrong time, a lot it has come off for, a lot it has not. That’s where the guts comes into it. Playing safe only helps when you’re way out in the lead on the last day, with most of the field in the clubhouse.
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14/12/2020 14:33:34 56 2
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and a winner that's is not obsessed with science; doesn't have the need to spit; doesn't take an age over each shot ; plays golf to his game strengths ; and probably enjoys pie and chips. and well done to Messrs Reed and Morinkawa for making the trip irrespective of the financial inducements.
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14/12/2020 16:22:02 2 38
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Why is enjoying pie and chips a good thing?

Professional sport (outside of darts) is about Athletes. Gone are the days of smoking snooker players or footballers who drink pints after a game.
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14/12/2020 14:36:28 11 10
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Had he not struggled with putting in his carrier, you wouldn't have heard of Tiger Woods, a true pro Lee.
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14/12/2020 15:16:26 6 7
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Don’t be ridiculous.
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14/12/2020 14:13:27 7 26
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What a state European golf is in ifwestwood at nearly 50 can win the race to Dubai, shambles ??????????
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14/12/2020 14:38:30 18 3
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.. so it's a shambles? How do you square that with the fact Europe keeps winning the Ryder Cup?
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14/12/2020 16:01:08 1 2
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You do know that the vast majority of the European team play 90% of their golf on the PGA Tour right?
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14/12/2020 16:38:22 1 1
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because those that excel at the ryder cup are mostly based on the US PGA tour, not regulars on the European tour
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14/12/2020 14:18:15 10 3
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Just over 2,000 were watching on Sky, no wonder sponsors are pulling out.
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14/12/2020 14:58:00 11 3
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I know, the Women’s US Open has been a laughably mediocre standard punctuated with boredom at its very core. No wonder the LET has been dead for quite some time.

And Sky had their highest ET viewing figures... “with the tournament average figures for the Aberdeen Standard Investments Scottish Open and last week’s BMW PGA Championship up 81 per cent compared to 2019”

Off you pop.
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14/12/2020 15:10:11 4 7
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Billy, how are you? Still deriding the women’s game and women in general I see. What’s your handicap? Do you actually play the game of golf on a regular basis?
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14/12/2020 15:04:35 3 16
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Super golfer but when did he last win on pgatour ?
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14/12/2020 15:36:59 8 2
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Google it. Or are you as stupid as you believe the saying 'form is temporary class is permanent' ????
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14/12/2020 16:31:26 3 1
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2010 which wasn't bad as a 37 year old. He has won over 40 times on the European tour, which is a harder tour top win on than the target golf PGA tour
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14/12/2020 14:02:18 63 1
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There is an old saying

Form is temporary class is permanent.

Lee is the epitome of that truism.
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14/12/2020 15:07:05 4 46
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VERY stupid saying
Was said of Ian Botham when he was fat and could only bowl at half pace
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14/12/2020 17:08:47 20 1
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And even being fat and bowling at half pace he was still a far better sportsman than keyboard warriors like you will ever be.
How about a list of your lifetime achievements to compare with Lee and Ian !!
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14/12/2020 20:53:15 5 0
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Utter rubbish
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15/12/2020 08:53:35 4 0
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“Lack of class” is definitely permanent, something you are demonstrating
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15/12/2020 15:55:14 0 0
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Absolutely correct
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14/12/2020 14:58:00 11 3
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I know, the Women’s US Open has been a laughably mediocre standard punctuated with boredom at its very core. No wonder the LET has been dead for quite some time.

And Sky had their highest ET viewing figures... “with the tournament average figures for the Aberdeen Standard Investments Scottish Open and last week’s BMW PGA Championship up 81 per cent compared to 2019”

Off you pop.
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14/12/2020 15:10:11 4 7
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Billy, how are you? Still deriding the women’s game and women in general I see. What’s your handicap? Do you actually play the game of golf on a regular basis?
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14/12/2020 16:34:50 0 2
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I’m amazing Annie, thanks for asking. And I can’t play (more so practice) as regularly anymore due to a chronic hip issue and the small problem of work. But go look up Matt Richardson and you then may get the level I’ve played at when beating him in the London AM Foursomes. Among others along the way, just not at the same level as the #1 junior AM in the world at that time
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14/12/2020 14:36:28 11 10
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Had he not struggled with putting in his carrier, you wouldn't have heard of Tiger Woods, a true pro Lee.
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14/12/2020 15:16:26 6 7
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Don’t be ridiculous.
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14/12/2020 15:24:09 8 2
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And a really nice bloke as well.

Congratulatoins Lee.
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14/12/2020 15:36:19 14 2
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Lee Westwood is a great of World golf having won all around the world and looks like he will continue to do so. who needs a major when you are respected as a giant of the game.
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14/12/2020 15:44:07 5 2
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Whilst I appreciate the sentiment behind your post I suspect deep down even Lee would want to win one simply in order to cement that respect, if not amongst his peers, but with naysayers/choker/keyboard warrior brigade.
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14/12/2020 15:04:35 3 16
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Super golfer but when did he last win on pgatour ?
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14/12/2020 15:36:59 8 2
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Google it. Or are you as stupid as you believe the saying 'form is temporary class is permanent' ????
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14/12/2020 15:36:19 14 2
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Lee Westwood is a great of World golf having won all around the world and looks like he will continue to do so. who needs a major when you are respected as a giant of the game.
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14/12/2020 15:44:07 5 2
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Whilst I appreciate the sentiment behind your post I suspect deep down even Lee would want to win one simply in order to cement that respect, if not amongst his peers, but with naysayers/choker/keyboard warrior brigade.
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jon
14/12/2020 16:55:13 2 7
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its nothing to do with naysayer keyboard warriors..the guy isnt good enough to win a major.....otherwise he would have wouldnt he......
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14/12/2020 16:59:14 4 1
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Who's bothered about them? Real golf fans know the truth.
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14/12/2020 19:50:20 0 0
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Of which you enjoy being a part.
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14/12/2020 14:18:15 10 3
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Just over 2,000 were watching on Sky, no wonder sponsors are pulling out.
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14/12/2020 15:46:52 3 1
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Where did you get this figure from?
Evidence, please.....
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14/12/2020 15:51:50 12 0
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Well done Lee
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14/12/2020 15:55:16 4 15
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Let's not get carried away. Westwood's triumph in the RtD was a product of massively disrupted schedule, which was missing The Open, 2 WGCs and 4 Rolex events. There were also weakened fields at three of the four Rolex events that went ahead, and not forgetting that he played in substantially more tournaments than any of the top players who were busy on the PGA Tour.
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14/12/2020 16:58:25 7 0
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But not more than many who played exclusively in Europe.
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Goy
14/12/2020 18:16:30 0 0
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And why were they on the PGA tour?
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14/12/2020 18:32:50 3 0
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So why didn't one of your faves win it then ? Because they collapsed & bogeyed. Not difficult to understand is it - sportsman need to turn up to win.
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14/12/2020 14:38:30 18 3
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.. so it's a shambles? How do you square that with the fact Europe keeps winning the Ryder Cup?
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14/12/2020 16:01:08 1 2
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You do know that the vast majority of the European team play 90% of their golf on the PGA Tour right?
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14/12/2020 16:15:53 40 1
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Golf is one of the very few sports which can be played to a really high standard in later life. Witness Langer at this year's Masters and Tom Watson going so close in the 2009 Open at the age of 59. Great to see Lee Westwood do so well. Hats off.
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BGD
14/12/2020 16:21:33 35 0
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I'm so pleased for Lee Westwood. A great servant to the game who continues to deliver.

I'm hoping he can string a few rounds together with a hot putter at next years majors as, tee to green, there aren't much better than him.
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14/12/2020 14:33:34 56 2
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and a winner that's is not obsessed with science; doesn't have the need to spit; doesn't take an age over each shot ; plays golf to his game strengths ; and probably enjoys pie and chips. and well done to Messrs Reed and Morinkawa for making the trip irrespective of the financial inducements.
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14/12/2020 16:22:02 2 38
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Why is enjoying pie and chips a good thing?

Professional sport (outside of darts) is about Athletes. Gone are the days of smoking snooker players or footballers who drink pints after a game.
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14/12/2020 16:32:11 8 0
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He is fitter at 47, than he was at 27. He admits that golf has changed
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14/12/2020 16:33:13 9 0
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Its an observation as to how refreshing it is to see a player many of us could associate with and perhaps aspire to as club golfers. Add to LW attributes a constant smile and a player who actually looks like he is enjoying his sport. I think a lot could learn from his attitude both on and off the course.
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14/12/2020 20:13:35 2 0
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And more injuries than at any time in history and worst of all boring characters.
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15/12/2020 15:57:41 2 0
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Pure comedy gold mate.
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14/12/2020 16:24:43 1 26
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Let's get some perspective here, unless he wins a major he can't be classified as a great player, just a nearly player.

For some reason Brits love "nearly" men.
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14/12/2020 16:29:20 22 1
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I think 44 career wins in Europe, Asia and America cements him as a great golfer. Would you really say Woosnam, Pate, Wadkins etc, were better golfers than Westwood.
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14/12/2020 17:17:43 7 1
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Getting in the European Ryder Cup team Ten times ( winning most of them ) and scoring dozens of points is pretty great?
Getting to world nr 1 is pretty great wouldn't you agree?
What about dozens upon dozens of victories world wide, that's pretty great?
He hasn't won a Major, who cares. Harrington has three Majors and I don't know a single person who cares about that.
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14/12/2020 18:57:36 5 0
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4 people a year win a major, but all the rest are hackers right?
Never understood the fascination with majors . I enjoy watching golf because of their skill level - couldn't give a monkey's if they won a major or not.

How many have you won, or have you even broken 100 yet ?
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15/12/2020 15:52:53 0 0
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Some good golfers haven’t won majors some bang average golfers have won majors...Monty , Lee had better careers than say Ben Curtis, Todd Hamilton, Jeff Sluman, Paul Lawrie. Lee has had a much better career than D Clarke, G McDowell. You need a bit of luck aswell to win majors. Lot of people say Seve was better than Faldo but Sir Nick won more majors.
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14/12/2020 16:24:43 1 26
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Let's get some perspective here, unless he wins a major he can't be classified as a great player, just a nearly player.

For some reason Brits love "nearly" men.
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14/12/2020 16:29:20 22 1
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I think 44 career wins in Europe, Asia and America cements him as a great golfer. Would you really say Woosnam, Pate, Wadkins etc, were better golfers than Westwood.
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jon
14/12/2020 16:53:24 1 12
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yes they clearly are...simply because they have won majors....westwood is a very good golfer but he will never be a great golfer until he wins a few majors.....why has he never won a major...not good enough..simple as that
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14/12/2020 17:58:38 1 5
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@DaveG i agree the major tally isn't the only indicator, otherwise Andy North (worst player to win two majors) would be as good as golfer as Greg Norman.

Not all major winners are great players but ]Nevertheless you still need the validation of a major to be known as a great golfer.
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14/12/2020 19:52:53 1 5
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Lee has been a very good, consistent golfer. He's a likeable and popular bloke, but not a great golfer because he's not won a major. He's had chances to win one but didn't take them or couldn't do it, and if you don't or can't do it, you are not a great golfer.
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14/12/2020 15:04:35 3 16
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Super golfer but when did he last win on pgatour ?
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14/12/2020 16:31:26 3 1
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2010 which wasn't bad as a 37 year old. He has won over 40 times on the European tour, which is a harder tour top win on than the target golf PGA tour
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14/12/2020 16:22:02 2 38
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Why is enjoying pie and chips a good thing?

Professional sport (outside of darts) is about Athletes. Gone are the days of smoking snooker players or footballers who drink pints after a game.
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14/12/2020 16:32:11 8 0
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He is fitter at 47, than he was at 27. He admits that golf has changed
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14/12/2020 17:53:18 0 14
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@DaveG proves my point!

I don't get the mentality of fans who think it's a positive to see someone live unhealthily.
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14/12/2020 14:29:40 1 23
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combine some women players which may improve the viewers and add some interest
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14/12/2020 16:33:11 6 2
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They can't compete on power, which is needed to compete in mens golf.. Has been tried many times, and they are embarressed
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14/12/2020 16:22:02 2 38
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Why is enjoying pie and chips a good thing?

Professional sport (outside of darts) is about Athletes. Gone are the days of smoking snooker players or footballers who drink pints after a game.
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14/12/2020 16:33:13 9 0
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Its an observation as to how refreshing it is to see a player many of us could associate with and perhaps aspire to as club golfers. Add to LW attributes a constant smile and a player who actually looks like he is enjoying his sport. I think a lot could learn from his attitude both on and off the course.
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14/12/2020 15:10:11 4 7
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Billy, how are you? Still deriding the women’s game and women in general I see. What’s your handicap? Do you actually play the game of golf on a regular basis?
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14/12/2020 16:34:50 0 2
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I’m amazing Annie, thanks for asking. And I can’t play (more so practice) as regularly anymore due to a chronic hip issue and the small problem of work. But go look up Matt Richardson and you then may get the level I’ve played at when beating him in the London AM Foursomes. Among others along the way, just not at the same level as the #1 junior AM in the world at that time
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14/12/2020 16:54:25 2 0
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Work and a failing body, sorry to hear that goatie. We’re only as good as the last round we played, but memories are lovely to have though. Hopefully, you’ll get a new hip soon and return to the wonderful game.??
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14/12/2020 16:35:02 5 7
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A very good achievement for Lee, but it underlines the level of the European tour, average at best. You can see this by the player world rankings of those regulars on the tour.
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14/12/2020 16:57:21 12 2
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Partly because even the lesser tournaments in the USA are awarded more ranking points.
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14/12/2020 18:53:38 1 0
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So why didn't Patrick Reed turn up then ?
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14/12/2020 14:13:27 7 26
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What a state European golf is in ifwestwood at nearly 50 can win the race to Dubai, shambles ??????????
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14/12/2020 16:37:10 1 1
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Many golfers in the top 20 of the WORLD Golf Rankings compete in the race to Dubai.
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14/12/2020 16:40:37 2 1
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no they dont
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14/12/2020 14:38:30 18 3
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.. so it's a shambles? How do you square that with the fact Europe keeps winning the Ryder Cup?
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14/12/2020 16:38:22 1 1
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because those that excel at the ryder cup are mostly based on the US PGA tour, not regulars on the European tour
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14/12/2020 16:37:10 1 1
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Many golfers in the top 20 of the WORLD Golf Rankings compete in the race to Dubai.
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14/12/2020 16:40:37 2 1
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no they dont
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14/12/2020 16:43:10 2 5
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-4 with 4 to play , Lee dropped 3 shots over 4 holes in 2009 and failed to even make the play off of the Turnberry Open. A shocking display of choking but then 8 finishes in the top 3 of Majors without a win says it all. I've forgiven Lee all the money I would have won had he won the Open in 2009 but its a cross he has to bear failing to win a Major. Him and Monty - best ever not to win a major.
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14/12/2020 17:12:00 1 3
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Westwood yes BUT many have more top 10s in majors than montgomerie
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Tom
14/12/2020 16:46:51 6 1
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Interesting this as he uses his missus as a caddy, does that mean anyone could caddy on the tour?
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14/12/2020 16:55:41 0 15
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Stupid toffs should carry their own bags.
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14/12/2020 16:56:25 1 0
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I believe so, McIlroy has one of his mates, several lower ranked players have wives/girlfriends, don't think there's any formal qualification etc.
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14/12/2020 18:24:13 1 1
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Probably.
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14/12/2020 16:48:51 3 13
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Well done - but he had one win, one second, and didn't get inside the top ten in any other tournament - how are they working out those points?
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14/12/2020 17:11:03 1 0
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Agree but he is very good for 47
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14/12/2020 16:50:58 6 23
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Very fitting on his career to win something by finishing second.
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14/12/2020 18:23:37 8 1
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Not his fault nobody could finish the job off. Get a life.
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14/12/2020 18:34:06 6 1
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To add to his 40 odd tour wins and £40 million career earnings, you pointless twit.
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14/12/2020 18:50:21 4 2
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With a comment like that you weren't even close to being second troll.
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14/12/2020 16:29:20 22 1
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I think 44 career wins in Europe, Asia and America cements him as a great golfer. Would you really say Woosnam, Pate, Wadkins etc, were better golfers than Westwood.
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jon
14/12/2020 16:53:24 1 12
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yes they clearly are...simply because they have won majors....westwood is a very good golfer but he will never be a great golfer until he wins a few majors.....why has he never won a major...not good enough..simple as that
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14/12/2020 16:34:50 0 2
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I’m amazing Annie, thanks for asking. And I can’t play (more so practice) as regularly anymore due to a chronic hip issue and the small problem of work. But go look up Matt Richardson and you then may get the level I’ve played at when beating him in the London AM Foursomes. Among others along the way, just not at the same level as the #1 junior AM in the world at that time
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14/12/2020 16:54:25 2 0
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Work and a failing body, sorry to hear that goatie. We’re only as good as the last round we played, but memories are lovely to have though. Hopefully, you’ll get a new hip soon and return to the wonderful game.??
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14/12/2020 15:44:07 5 2
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Whilst I appreciate the sentiment behind your post I suspect deep down even Lee would want to win one simply in order to cement that respect, if not amongst his peers, but with naysayers/choker/keyboard warrior brigade.
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jon
14/12/2020 16:55:13 2 7
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its nothing to do with naysayer keyboard warriors..the guy isnt good enough to win a major.....otherwise he would have wouldnt he......
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14/12/2020 22:39:02 0 7
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Clearly Greg Norman was a weekend hacker as he didn’t win a major! There are plenty of others. Well done Lee.
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Tom
14/12/2020 16:46:51 6 1
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Interesting this as he uses his missus as a caddy, does that mean anyone could caddy on the tour?
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14/12/2020 16:55:41 0 15
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Stupid toffs should carry their own bags.
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Tom
14/12/2020 16:46:51 6 1
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Interesting this as he uses his missus as a caddy, does that mean anyone could caddy on the tour?
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14/12/2020 16:56:25 1 0
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I believe so, McIlroy has one of his mates, several lower ranked players have wives/girlfriends, don't think there's any formal qualification etc.
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14/12/2020 16:35:02 5 7
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A very good achievement for Lee, but it underlines the level of the European tour, average at best. You can see this by the player world rankings of those regulars on the tour.
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14/12/2020 16:57:21 12 2
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Partly because even the lesser tournaments in the USA are awarded more ranking points.
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14/12/2020 15:55:16 4 15
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Let's not get carried away. Westwood's triumph in the RtD was a product of massively disrupted schedule, which was missing The Open, 2 WGCs and 4 Rolex events. There were also weakened fields at three of the four Rolex events that went ahead, and not forgetting that he played in substantially more tournaments than any of the top players who were busy on the PGA Tour.
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14/12/2020 16:58:25 7 0
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But not more than many who played exclusively in Europe.
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14/12/2020 15:44:07 5 2
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Whilst I appreciate the sentiment behind your post I suspect deep down even Lee would want to win one simply in order to cement that respect, if not amongst his peers, but with naysayers/choker/keyboard warrior brigade.
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14/12/2020 16:59:14 4 1
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Who's bothered about them? Real golf fans know the truth.
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sfc
14/12/2020 14:21:25 2 6
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Absolutely not but not relevant to the comment. I would presume you win a golf tournament by playing the best golf in the tournament. What has that got to do with having GUTS?
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14/12/2020 17:01:19 1 1
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Take a look at the pictures of his preparation with the physios. That's GUTS.
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14/12/2020 14:13:27 7 26
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What a state European golf is in ifwestwood at nearly 50 can win the race to Dubai, shambles ??????????
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14/12/2020 17:02:25 4 0
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Were you saying that when the 43 year old Woods won the Masters?
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15/12/2020 12:42:29 0 1
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Don’t compare woods to westwood please!
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14/12/2020 14:06:58 4 12
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Very good thru the green but one of the worst short putters on the tour at present. You just have to look at his last Ryder Cup to confirm this.
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14/12/2020 17:03:51 3 0
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No he isn't. Look at the strokes gained putting over the season.
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14/12/2020 17:04:59 10 0
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Not a golf fan but really pleased a fellow Worksopian does so well. Well done Lee.
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14/12/2020 18:06:59 1 17
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I’m sorry but where is Worksop ?
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14/12/2020 14:18:15 10 3
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Just over 2,000 were watching on Sky, no wonder sponsors are pulling out.
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DBF
14/12/2020 17:07:00 4 1
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Do you just come on here to slag sky off? The bbc walked away from The Open a year earlier than planned as they couldn’t be bothered. If you want to watch sport then you sky or other pay tv providers are where it’s at. Also where’s your proof that only 2000 people watched it I smell BS
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14/12/2020 15:07:05 4 46
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VERY stupid saying
Was said of Ian Botham when he was fat and could only bowl at half pace
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14/12/2020 17:08:47 20 1
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And even being fat and bowling at half pace he was still a far better sportsman than keyboard warriors like you will ever be.
How about a list of your lifetime achievements to compare with Lee and Ian !!
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14/12/2020 16:48:51 3 13
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Well done - but he had one win, one second, and didn't get inside the top ten in any other tournament - how are they working out those points?
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14/12/2020 17:11:03 1 0
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Agree but he is very good for 47
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14/12/2020 16:43:10 2 5
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-4 with 4 to play , Lee dropped 3 shots over 4 holes in 2009 and failed to even make the play off of the Turnberry Open. A shocking display of choking but then 8 finishes in the top 3 of Majors without a win says it all. I've forgiven Lee all the money I would have won had he won the Open in 2009 but its a cross he has to bear failing to win a Major. Him and Monty - best ever not to win a major.
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14/12/2020 17:12:00 1 3
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Westwood yes BUT many have more top 10s in majors than montgomerie
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14/12/2020 16:24:43 1 26
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Let's get some perspective here, unless he wins a major he can't be classified as a great player, just a nearly player.

For some reason Brits love "nearly" men.
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14/12/2020 17:17:43 7 1
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Getting in the European Ryder Cup team Ten times ( winning most of them ) and scoring dozens of points is pretty great?
Getting to world nr 1 is pretty great wouldn't you agree?
What about dozens upon dozens of victories world wide, that's pretty great?
He hasn't won a Major, who cares. Harrington has three Majors and I don't know a single person who cares about that.
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14/12/2020 17:21:40 5 1
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A great example to all young hopefuls. Given his putting woes which has prevented him from being a multiple major winner, it would have been easy for him to sit back & wait for the senior tour. But, as he says, his achievements are down to sheer hard work coupled with some talent.

The young +4 players at my club just don't have this work ethic, sadly they'll go the same way as those before them.
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14/12/2020 17:44:34 2 1
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Lots of armchair experts prowling on here.
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14/12/2020 17:51:02 1 23
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Isn't golf overrated and the most dullest? ... nothing interesting about golf
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14/12/2020 18:03:54 14 1
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Why do you feel that you have to comment when you have nothing to add?
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14/12/2020 18:33:25 4 1
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Isnt trolling over rated?
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14/12/2020 18:35:47 4 1
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So why bother to comment on it? Just move on to something that does interest you. But for the record, it is the second most popular participation sport globally.
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sjl
14/12/2020 19:04:25 4 0
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The 'most dullest'....nice one, brains.
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14/12/2020 19:47:46 4 0
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Struggling to make it even a troll .

How bad can life get ?
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14/12/2020 16:32:11 8 0
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He is fitter at 47, than he was at 27. He admits that golf has changed
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14/12/2020 17:53:18 0 14
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@DaveG proves my point!

I don't get the mentality of fans who think it's a positive to see someone live unhealthily.
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14/12/2020 16:29:20 22 1
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I think 44 career wins in Europe, Asia and America cements him as a great golfer. Would you really say Woosnam, Pate, Wadkins etc, were better golfers than Westwood.
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14/12/2020 17:58:38 1 5
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@DaveG i agree the major tally isn't the only indicator, otherwise Andy North (worst player to win two majors) would be as good as golfer as Greg Norman.

Not all major winners are great players but ]Nevertheless you still need the validation of a major to be known as a great golfer.
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14/12/2020 18:00:28 57 0
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Westwood came to a charity event I attended several years ago, while he was World No.1. He stayed until the very end, drank soft drinks all evening, beat all putting challengers on stage (while using a cricket bat) and was an absolute superstar. Patient, humble, entertaining - a true sporting hero. Well done Lee.
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14/12/2020 18:09:26 24 0
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Nice to know. thank you for sharing. He's always come across as a nice lad!
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14/12/2020 17:51:02 1 23
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Isn't golf overrated and the most dullest? ... nothing interesting about golf
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14/12/2020 18:03:54 14 1
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Why do you feel that you have to comment when you have nothing to add?
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14/12/2020 18:21:42 3 1
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Probably a remoaner too !
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14/12/2020 17:04:59 10 0
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Not a golf fan but really pleased a fellow Worksopian does so well. Well done Lee.
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14/12/2020 18:06:59 1 17
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I’m sorry but where is Worksop ?
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14/12/2020 18:22:30 9 1
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Do you know what Google is ?
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14/12/2020 18:08:21 1 9
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He came second. Should be on the Sports Personality of the Year
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14/12/2020 19:46:10 2 3
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Are you a nominee for winning Jack s**t ?

Doubt it.
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14/12/2020 18:00:28 57 0
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Westwood came to a charity event I attended several years ago, while he was World No.1. He stayed until the very end, drank soft drinks all evening, beat all putting challengers on stage (while using a cricket bat) and was an absolute superstar. Patient, humble, entertaining - a true sporting hero. Well done Lee.
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14/12/2020 18:09:26 24 0
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Nice to know. thank you for sharing. He's always come across as a nice lad!
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14/12/2020 18:12:37 15 1
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Nothing Westie does surprises me any more. I watched him at Wentworth when he had a chance of playing his ball off of a bridge over a brook. Ruling was he could & nailed it, check spin too!

How someone can be so talented & not yet have a major is beyond me. I think his time could come yet.
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14/12/2020 18:17:27 12 1
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To clarify, I was fortunate enough to be there in person & close enough to hear the conversation between him & the rules official.

I would love to say it was Mr Paramour, but I don't think it was. Great memories nevertheless. Westie for a major before retiring ??
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14/12/2020 18:15:29 17 2
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Well done Lee fully deserved. A brilliant example of how a professional sportsperson should behave.
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14/12/2020 15:55:16 4 15
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Let's not get carried away. Westwood's triumph in the RtD was a product of massively disrupted schedule, which was missing The Open, 2 WGCs and 4 Rolex events. There were also weakened fields at three of the four Rolex events that went ahead, and not forgetting that he played in substantially more tournaments than any of the top players who were busy on the PGA Tour.
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Goy
14/12/2020 18:16:30 0 0
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And why were they on the PGA tour?
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14/12/2020 18:12:37 15 1
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Nothing Westie does surprises me any more. I watched him at Wentworth when he had a chance of playing his ball off of a bridge over a brook. Ruling was he could & nailed it, check spin too!

How someone can be so talented & not yet have a major is beyond me. I think his time could come yet.
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14/12/2020 18:17:27 12 1
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To clarify, I was fortunate enough to be there in person & close enough to hear the conversation between him & the rules official.

I would love to say it was Mr Paramour, but I don't think it was. Great memories nevertheless. Westie for a major before retiring ??
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14/12/2020 18:03:54 14 1
bbc
Why do you feel that you have to comment when you have nothing to add?
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14/12/2020 18:21:42 3 1
bbc
Probably a remoaner too !
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14/12/2020 18:06:59 1 17
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I’m sorry but where is Worksop ?
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14/12/2020 18:22:30 9 1
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Do you know what Google is ?
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14/12/2020 16:50:58 6 23
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Very fitting on his career to win something by finishing second.
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14/12/2020 18:23:37 8 1
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Not his fault nobody could finish the job off. Get a life.
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Tom
14/12/2020 16:46:51 6 1
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Interesting this as he uses his missus as a caddy, does that mean anyone could caddy on the tour?
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14/12/2020 18:24:13 1 1
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Probably.
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14/12/2020 18:52:19 0 5
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If you can't work out what club you need on yourself you shouldn't even be on tour.
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14/12/2020 18:26:06 4 0
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Lee has been a top player over the years. If I remember right he possessed the best Tee to green stats over most of his fellow professionals. Just could seem to keep it together for 4 rounds to topple one of the majors.

Still, I wonder how his career would have gone without his bad back which kept him out for a while.
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14/12/2020 18:31:04 18 4
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Excellent article Mr Carter. I thoroughly enjoyed reading this one and knew you could do it.
Lots of love being shown here for a true European Champion and I will add my bit to him too.
Great player and hope he keeps on winning.
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gg
15/12/2020 18:56:10 1 0
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Best thing you have ever said Maxine, I knew you would see the light.????????
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14/12/2020 18:31:38 34 1
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"He's from Nottinghamshire." So am I.

"He started at 13 with a half set of clubs." So did I.

"He rose to the top of the world rankings." Ah.
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14/12/2020 15:55:16 4 15
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Let's not get carried away. Westwood's triumph in the RtD was a product of massively disrupted schedule, which was missing The Open, 2 WGCs and 4 Rolex events. There were also weakened fields at three of the four Rolex events that went ahead, and not forgetting that he played in substantially more tournaments than any of the top players who were busy on the PGA Tour.
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14/12/2020 18:32:50 3 0
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So why didn't one of your faves win it then ? Because they collapsed & bogeyed. Not difficult to understand is it - sportsman need to turn up to win.
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14/12/2020 17:51:02 1 23
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Isn't golf overrated and the most dullest? ... nothing interesting about golf
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14/12/2020 18:33:25 4 1
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Isnt trolling over rated?
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14/12/2020 16:50:58 6 23
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Very fitting on his career to win something by finishing second.
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14/12/2020 18:34:06 6 1
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To add to his 40 odd tour wins and £40 million career earnings, you pointless twit.
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14/12/2020 19:41:14 3 0
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You should have used an “a” there??
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14/12/2020 17:51:02 1 23
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Isn't golf overrated and the most dullest? ... nothing interesting about golf
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14/12/2020 18:35:47 4 1
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So why bother to comment on it? Just move on to something that does interest you. But for the record, it is the second most popular participation sport globally.
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14/12/2020 18:40:13 26 2
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Such a pity that some contributors feel it necessary to deride this man’s achievement. He probably doesn’t deserve to be described as a golfing great because he hasn’t won a Major. However, his Dubai performance was of the highest quality; his comeback after the 6 at 14 took huge resilience and skill. His longevity, humility and sense of proportion mark him out as great sportsman in my book.
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14/12/2020 18:46:53 18 3
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The weekend hackers who score 120 week in & week out know best.
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14/12/2020 18:40:13 26 2
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Such a pity that some contributors feel it necessary to deride this man’s achievement. He probably doesn’t deserve to be described as a golfing great because he hasn’t won a Major. However, his Dubai performance was of the highest quality; his comeback after the 6 at 14 took huge resilience and skill. His longevity, humility and sense of proportion mark him out as great sportsman in my book.
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14/12/2020 18:46:53 18 3
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The weekend hackers who score 120 week in & week out know best.
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14/12/2020 16:50:58 6 23
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Very fitting on his career to win something by finishing second.
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14/12/2020 18:50:21 4 2
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With a comment like that you weren't even close to being second troll.
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14/12/2020 19:40:36 3 1
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Trolls are both incompetent & irrelevant. Not a competition. Enjoy your sad life.
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14/12/2020 18:24:13 1 1
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Probably.
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14/12/2020 18:52:19 0 5
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If you can't work out what club you need on yourself you shouldn't even be on tour.
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14/12/2020 16:35:02 5 7
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A very good achievement for Lee, but it underlines the level of the European tour, average at best. You can see this by the player world rankings of those regulars on the tour.
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14/12/2020 18:53:38 1 0
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So why didn't Patrick Reed turn up then ?
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14/12/2020 16:24:43 1 26
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Let's get some perspective here, unless he wins a major he can't be classified as a great player, just a nearly player.

For some reason Brits love "nearly" men.
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14/12/2020 18:57:36 5 0
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4 people a year win a major, but all the rest are hackers right?
Never understood the fascination with majors . I enjoy watching golf because of their skill level - couldn't give a monkey's if they won a major or not.

How many have you won, or have you even broken 100 yet ?
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14/12/2020 20:39:43 0 3
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To say the rest are hackers apart the winner of a major is a stupid and extreme comment. Like it or not, a major is the ultimate achievement, recognition and legacy for a pro golfer.
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14/12/2020 17:51:02 1 23
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Isn't golf overrated and the most dullest? ... nothing interesting about golf
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sjl
14/12/2020 19:04:25 4 0
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The 'most dullest'....nice one, brains.
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14/12/2020 19:31:59 9 1
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Lee Westwood's European Tour Race to Dubai victory bucks trend towards youth..

Class is permanent and matures with age. Lee Westwood is pure class not just as a golfer but also his conduct is that of an absolute gentleman.
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14/12/2020 19:44:20 8 1
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Completely agree. He didn't win it by default it was just nobody could challenge his consistency.

Deal with it. Great win by a great man.