Cyberpunk 2077 makers apologise for game glitches
14/12/2020 | news | other | 176
Players are reporting performance issues and the game crashing on PS4 and Xbox One.
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14/12/2020 15:57:13 60 4
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I remember the days when games were released complete, not early access or broken. And there was no paid DLC, just patches and free content. I miss those days.
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14/12/2020 16:03:29 27 5
bbc
This is the problem with technology though - years ago we were told it would make our lives easier - and in theory it should - but greedy pigs at the top decided it just allowed us to do more in less time.

Projekt Red 'crunched' their staff several times prior to release and focused on new consoles; it was a recipe for tired mistakes, poor backwards compatibility and a total disaster.
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14/12/2020 16:28:14 7 5
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Yes no software had bugs, no game had glitches, exploits or balancing issues, expansion packs didn't exist, just the good old days of waiting in line for games, living with what you were given, paying for and queuing again for any new content or fixes then having a split player base for it. Bring it back I say!
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14/12/2020 16:57:07 8 0
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With the ready availability of patching, it has meant that so many games are rushed through in an unfinished state, and then refined over the following months into decent games.

No Man's Sky and Final Fantasy 14 are classic examples of this.
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14/12/2020 17:20:07 3 0
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I think you're right that this has exacerbated the issue. But releasing broken games isn't new.

I wish Knights of the Old Republic 2 (2004) had been finished for example... but the community had to do it. This pre-dates horse armour DLC (Oblivion, 2006) and certainly the rise of early access on things like Steam.

I don't know if there was ever a true golden era, but maybe a bit better?
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14/12/2020 17:41:06 10 0
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There's a hole in the Desert, somewhere in the US full of E.T game cartridges that disagrees with this sentiment...
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14/12/2020 18:51:22 4 0
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Not true - Jet Set Willy way back in the 80's wasn't even able to be completed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Set_Willy

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14/12/2020 19:11:08 1 0
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I like the modern way of dealing with continual development in gaming. On the positive side: The big multiplayer games working in seasons really helps freshen up games. It’s better than the 360/ps3 dlc map pack era.

The downsides: THIS. Games going out unfinished for marketing and promotional reasons. And Micro transactions (which I find is easily voided in the most part).
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14/12/2020 19:41:07 0 0
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These days can still be now, no one is forcing people to buy lies or rubbish unfinished products. But I agree the time has come for some arrests to be made for fraud, the following people are criminals & the CPS should be submitting evidence against them, Sean Murray of hello games & Dean Hall of Day Z. I suspect Chris Roberts can soon be added to that short list.
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14/12/2020 19:51:22 0 0
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I only buy games I know can be modded really now (Rust being the exception).

X-Com 2, Civ 4/5 (and 6 I imagine) were pretty pants until you downloaded mods for them. How can modders actually make the AI decent when companies with millions at their disposal can't.

DLC is a total scam as well.
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15/12/2020 07:30:20 0 0
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I cannot remember those days in any fps games, sorry
I have been playing games from the very start, playing Doom when it was nothing but solo game or co-op via modem

Every single title I have ever owned had problems when first released, some worse than others but all have had glitches of some sort that made the game bad, worst imo are the exploit, that just ruin a game

New game = wait a while
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14/12/2020 15:59:22 1 0
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Nooooooo..!!!
Pre-ordered it and wrapped it, now. Looks like my son will have to download the patch...
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14/12/2020 16:17:57 5 1
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The state of the game being reported is *with* the day one patch.
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14/12/2020 15:59:39 25 2
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More like Cyberpunk 1077.
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14/12/2020 15:57:13 60 4
bbc
I remember the days when games were released complete, not early access or broken. And there was no paid DLC, just patches and free content. I miss those days.
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14/12/2020 16:03:29 27 5
bbc
This is the problem with technology though - years ago we were told it would make our lives easier - and in theory it should - but greedy pigs at the top decided it just allowed us to do more in less time.

Projekt Red 'crunched' their staff several times prior to release and focused on new consoles; it was a recipe for tired mistakes, poor backwards compatibility and a total disaster.
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14/12/2020 16:13:11 7 2
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They should have abandoned the old consoles and just went PC and new gen
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14/12/2020 16:05:27 6 2
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Cancelled my pre order before all this went down. Got away with one.
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14/12/2020 16:07:48 13 0
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Never pre-order. I have never had a pre-order I didn't regret.
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14/12/2020 16:06:30 5 10
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People need to chill; gamers asked for it to be released early so what do they expect? Working in software myself I know how hard it is to rush something into production. The game itself is still perfectly playable and is actually rather good and looks fantastic. The current issues will be patched in a few months / weeks
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14/12/2020 16:17:18 4 4
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It wasn't released early - it's over a year late from when they had first intended the release. They should have cancelled the PS4/XBO versions entirely when it became apparent that their developers had no idea how to code for those machines though.
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14/12/2020 16:06:48 10 2
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I remember installing the original shareware Doom pack 1 and then paid for the next 2 packs. Buy and Try and it worked.

Shame software companies don't have the same ethos as ID software did.

I'm **almost** hashtag outraged, but this brings back happy memories which nullify the outraged.
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14/12/2020 18:52:37 2 0
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Likewise with the original Diablo in 1996 (I think) it was bundled on Magazines with the first 2 floors of the dungeon accessible.... bought it on the spot!

Shame they got bought out and once again ended up a greedy dev!
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14/12/2020 16:07:09 38 6
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We shouldn't lambaste companies for making new and immersive games, with lots of content.

Without them, we are left with companies like EA producing the same game year after year, filled with gambling, pay to win, or micro transactions. Or R* milking GTA V online rather than producing more masterpieces.

If R* produced a game like GTA V or RDR2 every 3-4 years, I would be so happy.
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14/12/2020 16:13:06 36 2
bbc
The type of game is not the issue, they are being lambasted for releasing a broken game and, at best, being disingenuous about the quality of the console versions pre release.

They have acted very scummily with the release of this game, something I would expect from EA actually.
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14/12/2020 16:16:05 8 1
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We're not - we're lambasting a company for releasing a product in an utterly broken state which obviously had little to no QA Testing before being thrown out the door. Backfired though, since the share price tanked after seeing how disgraceful the offering was.
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14/12/2020 16:05:27 6 2
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Cancelled my pre order before all this went down. Got away with one.
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14/12/2020 16:07:48 13 0
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Never pre-order. I have never had a pre-order I didn't regret.
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14/12/2020 16:53:20 0 0
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Absolutely. They tease pre-orders with cinematic trailers which often aren't the graphics in game, and small merch or in-game items. However, you don't know if the game will meet your expectations, or be released with bugs etc. as appears to be the case. Always wait at least a few patches down the line.
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14/12/2020 16:09:30 57 0
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This is why I don't pre order games.
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14/12/2020 18:31:19 5 1
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This was rushed out in an unfinished state for christmas sales. Doubt anyone will be so hyped for this developers games in the future.
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14/12/2020 16:10:07 2 7
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Game looks and plays great on pc. But on ps4 and xbox original consoles they are too old to run this next gen game.. ps5 and xboxx/s is required for console. Digital foundry have a good break down of what to expect. It never was a game really meant for ps4 normal or xbox normal.. they are too old
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14/12/2020 16:14:56 15 3
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Except that it was meant for them, announced on them, and released for them. The PS5 "version" is just the console running in backwards compatibility mode, so it's running PS4 code. And they aren't too old either - it's terrible coding. Other games (ACUnity, GTA5) show that what CP2077 wanted to achieve was possible - the developers simply botched the whole thing with poorly optimised code.
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14/12/2020 16:38:12 2 0
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If you don't know squat, it's better off to keep yer trap shut.
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14/12/2020 16:08:17 16 1
bbc
Seems the bean-counters figured it would be better to sell as many last-gen copies as possible before xmas (and deal with the backlash) than release a finished game on all platforms...I bet a couple of people returning their copies won't make a dent in the margins.
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14/12/2020 16:25:40 11 1
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Maybe not, but their stock price had absolutely crashed, going from a high of 443PLN on the 4th, to sitting at 296PLN today. It isn't about people returning copies - it's about the main investors jumping ship after losing so much money on this.,
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14/12/2020 16:07:09 38 6
bbc
We shouldn't lambaste companies for making new and immersive games, with lots of content.

Without them, we are left with companies like EA producing the same game year after year, filled with gambling, pay to win, or micro transactions. Or R* milking GTA V online rather than producing more masterpieces.

If R* produced a game like GTA V or RDR2 every 3-4 years, I would be so happy.
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14/12/2020 16:13:06 36 2
bbc
The type of game is not the issue, they are being lambasted for releasing a broken game and, at best, being disingenuous about the quality of the console versions pre release.

They have acted very scummily with the release of this game, something I would expect from EA actually.
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14/12/2020 16:03:29 27 5
bbc
This is the problem with technology though - years ago we were told it would make our lives easier - and in theory it should - but greedy pigs at the top decided it just allowed us to do more in less time.

Projekt Red 'crunched' their staff several times prior to release and focused on new consoles; it was a recipe for tired mistakes, poor backwards compatibility and a total disaster.
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14/12/2020 16:13:11 7 2
bbc
They should have abandoned the old consoles and just went PC and new gen
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14/12/2020 16:10:07 2 7
bbc
Game looks and plays great on pc. But on ps4 and xbox original consoles they are too old to run this next gen game.. ps5 and xboxx/s is required for console. Digital foundry have a good break down of what to expect. It never was a game really meant for ps4 normal or xbox normal.. they are too old
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14/12/2020 16:14:56 15 3
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Except that it was meant for them, announced on them, and released for them. The PS5 "version" is just the console running in backwards compatibility mode, so it's running PS4 code. And they aren't too old either - it's terrible coding. Other games (ACUnity, GTA5) show that what CP2077 wanted to achieve was possible - the developers simply botched the whole thing with poorly optimised code.
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14/12/2020 16:33:04 4 1
bbc
GTA5 actually runs fine on my PS3, it's a developer that knows what it's doing.
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14/12/2020 16:07:09 38 6
bbc
We shouldn't lambaste companies for making new and immersive games, with lots of content.

Without them, we are left with companies like EA producing the same game year after year, filled with gambling, pay to win, or micro transactions. Or R* milking GTA V online rather than producing more masterpieces.

If R* produced a game like GTA V or RDR2 every 3-4 years, I would be so happy.
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14/12/2020 16:16:05 8 1
bbc
We're not - we're lambasting a company for releasing a product in an utterly broken state which obviously had little to no QA Testing before being thrown out the door. Backfired though, since the share price tanked after seeing how disgraceful the offering was.
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14/12/2020 19:33:17 0 1
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Not too mention the high price for this game. I don't mind paying the cost of games of they deliver what they advertise. Thia release is shocking, I own a series x and I can't tell you I don't actually want to play the game. It's far too disjointed, uninteresting, dull and downright boring. The combat mechanism is dire and the sheer amount of uninteresting text is monatanus.
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14/12/2020 16:06:30 5 10
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People need to chill; gamers asked for it to be released early so what do they expect? Working in software myself I know how hard it is to rush something into production. The game itself is still perfectly playable and is actually rather good and looks fantastic. The current issues will be patched in a few months / weeks
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14/12/2020 16:17:18 4 4
bbc
It wasn't released early - it's over a year late from when they had first intended the release. They should have cancelled the PS4/XBO versions entirely when it became apparent that their developers had no idea how to code for those machines though.
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14/12/2020 16:32:22 0 2
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Yeah, and gamers would've been perfectly happy with a cancelled game...
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14/12/2020 15:59:22 1 0
bbc
Nooooooo..!!!
Pre-ordered it and wrapped it, now. Looks like my son will have to download the patch...
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14/12/2020 16:17:57 5 1
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The state of the game being reported is *with* the day one patch.
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14/12/2020 16:21:59 5 5
bbc
looks like fan boys n girls got punked....cyber style ??
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14/12/2020 16:25:32 8 2
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Neo has morphed into Hagrid.....
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14/12/2020 16:08:17 16 1
bbc
Seems the bean-counters figured it would be better to sell as many last-gen copies as possible before xmas (and deal with the backlash) than release a finished game on all platforms...I bet a couple of people returning their copies won't make a dent in the margins.
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14/12/2020 16:25:40 11 1
bbc
Maybe not, but their stock price had absolutely crashed, going from a high of 443PLN on the 4th, to sitting at 296PLN today. It isn't about people returning copies - it's about the main investors jumping ship after losing so much money on this.,
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14/12/2020 16:29:53 5 2
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But investors haven't lost money on it - the game made it's development budget back on pre-orders alone and it will take a massive return to dent what will clearly be major profits.

What it does do is seriously hurt CDPR's reputation, which given they only release one game every few years is not a good position for them to be in.
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14/12/2020 17:26:03 2 0
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The investors are equally responsible for pushing the share price up from 99PLN Jan 2018 so many will have still not lost any money at all, quite the opposite.
Ironically the development costs of CP2077 have already been covered by preorders so they may end up making a healthy profit as time goes on and all the issues get ironed out (might buy it then).
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14/12/2020 16:18:03 9 5
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SHocking that a massive company like this can't carry out a proper beta test before releasing a product!

I conducted dozens of these in my last job and never had an issue in the field.
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14/12/2020 18:13:30 3 2
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Which AAA game did your company put out?
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15/12/2020 12:42:38 0 0
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There are literrally hundreds of PS4 and Xbox players saying it's running great for them, so possible that it worked okay for the beta testers. I develop scripts and packages and it's stupid how often something works perfectly in test and in live on our machines but then fails on a users machine with the same specs!
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14/12/2020 16:28:58 5 0
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This has always been an issue, when deadlines have to be met. I remember ps3 versions of fallout 3 and New Vegas becoming unstable especially near the end of the game as the system struggles to crunch all the data, and little bugs throughout
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14/12/2020 18:00:03 1 0
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"This has always been an issue, when deadlines have to be met."

They weren't met either.
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14/12/2020 16:25:40 11 1
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Maybe not, but their stock price had absolutely crashed, going from a high of 443PLN on the 4th, to sitting at 296PLN today. It isn't about people returning copies - it's about the main investors jumping ship after losing so much money on this.,
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14/12/2020 16:29:53 5 2
bbc
But investors haven't lost money on it - the game made it's development budget back on pre-orders alone and it will take a massive return to dent what will clearly be major profits.

What it does do is seriously hurt CDPR's reputation, which given they only release one game every few years is not a good position for them to be in.
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14/12/2020 16:33:58 1 2
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And given that Sony and Microsoft are giving refunds no questions asked for digital copies, while retailers are returning boxed versions as faulty, even a 10% return rate is going to impact their financial expectations. I've seen a considerable number of people returning it, with intent to purchase again down the line after multiple patches and a price drop - that isn't a sustainable model.
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14/12/2020 16:29:53 9 9
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You're dealing with a community who think it's acceptable to give out specific death threats and SWATting because the developers included a particular character in a game.

They are easily upset and over-exaggerate everything.
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14/12/2020 16:39:00 7 4
bbc
Here's an album you've waited for for 5 years, and all the hype has you buzzing for it. It cost you £60, but you're prepared to pay it.

You Play, and 20 seconds into the song, it stops. You need to close your player completely and restart it to start playing again. Then you get 15 seconds before it stops. So you restart again. And the sound quality is that of 64bps mp3. Same thing with this game
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14/12/2020 18:30:10 1 0
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The gaming community absolutely does not think it's acceptable to give out specific death threats and SWATting because the developers included a particular character in a game.
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14/12/2020 16:17:18 4 4
bbc
It wasn't released early - it's over a year late from when they had first intended the release. They should have cancelled the PS4/XBO versions entirely when it became apparent that their developers had no idea how to code for those machines though.
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14/12/2020 16:32:22 0 2
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Yeah, and gamers would've been perfectly happy with a cancelled game...
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14/12/2020 16:14:56 15 3
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Except that it was meant for them, announced on them, and released for them. The PS5 "version" is just the console running in backwards compatibility mode, so it's running PS4 code. And they aren't too old either - it's terrible coding. Other games (ACUnity, GTA5) show that what CP2077 wanted to achieve was possible - the developers simply botched the whole thing with poorly optimised code.
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14/12/2020 16:33:04 4 1
bbc
GTA5 actually runs fine on my PS3, it's a developer that knows what it's doing.
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14/12/2020 16:29:53 5 2
bbc
But investors haven't lost money on it - the game made it's development budget back on pre-orders alone and it will take a massive return to dent what will clearly be major profits.

What it does do is seriously hurt CDPR's reputation, which given they only release one game every few years is not a good position for them to be in.
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14/12/2020 16:33:58 1 2
bbc
And given that Sony and Microsoft are giving refunds no questions asked for digital copies, while retailers are returning boxed versions as faulty, even a 10% return rate is going to impact their financial expectations. I've seen a considerable number of people returning it, with intent to purchase again down the line after multiple patches and a price drop - that isn't a sustainable model.
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14/12/2020 17:02:29 1 4
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The pc version isn't great either, I had a bug inside first two hours and immediately refunded.
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14/12/2020 15:57:13 60 4
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I remember the days when games were released complete, not early access or broken. And there was no paid DLC, just patches and free content. I miss those days.
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14/12/2020 16:28:14 7 5
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Yes no software had bugs, no game had glitches, exploits or balancing issues, expansion packs didn't exist, just the good old days of waiting in line for games, living with what you were given, paying for and queuing again for any new content or fixes then having a split player base for it. Bring it back I say!
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14/12/2020 16:37:56 41 16
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To me, this only enhances CD Project Red as a developer. Yes, they've made a mistake. and QA testing should of picked this up.
But to publicly acknowledge, as well as that level of detail, I can accept.
Companies like EA just release trash, and then hide and never fix or acknowledge.
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14/12/2020 17:52:09 26 4
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I love the Witcher games and I had held CDPR as one of the good guys. But they have wilfully deceived millions of gamers by not showing any footage whatsoever of the game running on the base consoles in the run up to release. They knew what a state it was in and they hid it, conning millions out of their money.

This enhances them as a developer? Are you mad?
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14/12/2020 17:58:26 4 0
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"To me, this only enhances CD Project Red as a developer. Yes, they've made a mistake"

Not properly testing something on the hardware it will be running on is not a mistake.
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14/12/2020 18:14:23 2 1
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I'm not hating on CDPR as developers, they're a brilliant team. But some ill-advised mind in the management team made a decision to release it on the older platforms as well, probably for extra money, while sending the devs into total chaos. If you remember, it was only supposed to be for PS 5 and the new Xbox, then Sony delayed the launch and they said it wil run on current gen too.
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14/12/2020 19:28:26 5 0
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Love how you say "QA testing should of picked this up" like its QAs fault. Guarantee this was known, logged and highlighted by QA, but marketing/production/the higher ups wanted to release in time for Xmas for the ££££s.
Not defending the company, but defending QA as they are underpaid and under-appreciated, then blamed by people who know very little/nothing about actually making a game...
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14/12/2020 19:51:29 3 0
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Excuse me what?

They released a game on consoles that can barely run it, and certainly not at a reasonable state, claim in press releases it runs "Surprisingly well" and suppress all information to the contrary.... and this 'enhances' their reputation?

If the apology even vaguely seemed sincere rather than being pure share price massaging PR it might have started to repair the damage.
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14/12/2020 16:10:07 2 7
bbc
Game looks and plays great on pc. But on ps4 and xbox original consoles they are too old to run this next gen game.. ps5 and xboxx/s is required for console. Digital foundry have a good break down of what to expect. It never was a game really meant for ps4 normal or xbox normal.. they are too old
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14/12/2020 16:38:12 2 0
bbc
If you don't know squat, it's better off to keep yer trap shut.
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14/12/2020 16:29:53 9 9
bbc
You're dealing with a community who think it's acceptable to give out specific death threats and SWATting because the developers included a particular character in a game.

They are easily upset and over-exaggerate everything.
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14/12/2020 16:39:00 7 4
bbc
Here's an album you've waited for for 5 years, and all the hype has you buzzing for it. It cost you £60, but you're prepared to pay it.

You Play, and 20 seconds into the song, it stops. You need to close your player completely and restart it to start playing again. Then you get 15 seconds before it stops. So you restart again. And the sound quality is that of 64bps mp3. Same thing with this game
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14/12/2020 16:46:45 2 4
bbc
Lies, it's a good game with some bugs. Happens to most games that come out.
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14/12/2020 17:54:45 1 0
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buy it on vinyl
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14/12/2020 18:50:24 0 1
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Or rather band says album is not ready, fans demand that the album is released unfinished and then complain that the game is unfinished.
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14/12/2020 16:40:13 25 9
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It is an insanely complex game. You expect there to be bugs at launch.

What matters is that CD Projekt Red have shown in the past that they don't abandon their games after launch. But fix the bugs and respond to player feedback of ways to improve the experience.
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15/12/2020 12:51:08 0 0
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You are correct, don't think I have another game that comes evern close. Closest to open world I've played would likely be Skyrim or Fallout 4, but they have alot less "life" and certainly less bling, also I'd say more bugs after years of patches.
I have far more issues with both Skyrim and Fallout 4 than I have had with Cyberpunk 2077 on the first day before the fixes dropped.
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14/12/2020 16:29:14 9 2
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A game playable on consoles you can't manage to get.

Unless you pay the scalpers.

This is the third time Microsoft and Sony have released consoles where the demand has massively outstripped supply.
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14/12/2020 17:10:37 9 0
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Nope, the issues are on xbox one and playstation 4, the older generation. It seems to work fine on beefed-up versions of those, like the xbox one s and ps4 pro. This whole fiasco is because they tried to make it work on those as well, so you're trying to make a game designed for cutting edge PC and the new consoles run on 7 years old hardware.
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14/12/2020 18:47:06 0 0
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As a PS5 user I don't understand your comment.

They've sold millions of consoles already, but will never be able to satisfy day one demand. I think they've produced more consoles to sell on day one than ever before.
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14/12/2020 16:43:21 24 3
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Not a clue about cyberpunk - but I read this to educate myself. Now I’m feeling very old as well as still non the wiser!
Very best wishes to the young - it’s your time now to live life to the full and enjoy every minute.
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14/12/2020 17:27:06 17 0
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My mate is 55 and has almost completed it..
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14/12/2020 18:07:41 2 0
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Did you see Blade Runner or The Fifth Element? Similar vibe in Cyberpunk.

Did you play Crysis? Similar tech demands.

Did you read Neuromancer? Good classic intro to the cyberpunk world.
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14/12/2020 18:10:33 11 0
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Young? Me and my two brothers play. My eldest is 60 in a year. I'm 53 and my younger is 52.
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14/12/2020 16:39:00 7 4
bbc
Here's an album you've waited for for 5 years, and all the hype has you buzzing for it. It cost you £60, but you're prepared to pay it.

You Play, and 20 seconds into the song, it stops. You need to close your player completely and restart it to start playing again. Then you get 15 seconds before it stops. So you restart again. And the sound quality is that of 64bps mp3. Same thing with this game
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14/12/2020 16:46:45 2 4
bbc
Lies, it's a good game with some bugs. Happens to most games that come out.
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14/12/2020 17:11:30 3 3
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I have had crashes on PS5 many times with CP2077 and low resolution and it is reported by numerous people . Dumb down game shoot and loot , simplistic hacking game mechanics compared to the Batman Arkham games and Alien Isolation . The AI are not very good compared to a lot of first person shooters, overrated and very taxing on many PC and consoles . 1000 watts to play this game Greta will be mad.
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14/12/2020 16:50:39 9 7
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All these people complaining really need to calm down. On the first day it was disappointing as it crashed 3 times. Then a patch was released on the second day which solved this. Yeah its still a bit glitchy but it's an ambitious game which so far is more interesting than anything I've played in a long time. Don't people want that, instead of another game that is just like all the others?
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14/12/2020 21:15:15 1 0
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I'm running on an xbox one x, there have been bugs but nothing that annoys particularly. It'll really come to life on a series x once more stock comes through.
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14/12/2020 16:07:48 13 0
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Never pre-order. I have never had a pre-order I didn't regret.
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14/12/2020 16:53:20 0 0
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Absolutely. They tease pre-orders with cinematic trailers which often aren't the graphics in game, and small merch or in-game items. However, you don't know if the game will meet your expectations, or be released with bugs etc. as appears to be the case. Always wait at least a few patches down the line.
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14/12/2020 16:54:03 4 22
bbc
Not news. Just a meaningless shoot em up role playing adventure whatever game

Possibly a good thing it doesn't work properly
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14/12/2020 17:14:36 2 0
bbc
What a pointless comment. Kinda like this one tbf.
66
14/12/2020 17:52:16 1 0
bbc
At least it's better than watching large kids chase a ball around a small patch.
40
14/12/2020 16:55:20 18 0
bbc
Some of the clipping errors in the game are hilarious - specifically genitalia clipping through trousers.
84
14/12/2020 18:20:10 3 0
bbc
Nice
120
14/12/2020 19:24:47 8 0
bbc
that's bollocks
1
14/12/2020 15:57:13 60 4
bbc
I remember the days when games were released complete, not early access or broken. And there was no paid DLC, just patches and free content. I miss those days.
41
14/12/2020 16:57:07 8 0
bbc
With the ready availability of patching, it has meant that so many games are rushed through in an unfinished state, and then refined over the following months into decent games.

No Man's Sky and Final Fantasy 14 are classic examples of this.
47
14/12/2020 17:11:46 4 1
bbc
True but considering the game was first announced in 2012 there's no excuse for the game being rushed
28
14/12/2020 16:33:58 1 2
bbc
And given that Sony and Microsoft are giving refunds no questions asked for digital copies, while retailers are returning boxed versions as faulty, even a 10% return rate is going to impact their financial expectations. I've seen a considerable number of people returning it, with intent to purchase again down the line after multiple patches and a price drop - that isn't a sustainable model.
42
14/12/2020 17:02:29 1 4
bbc
The pc version isn't great either, I had a bug inside first two hours and immediately refunded.
43
14/12/2020 17:03:45 4 3
bbc
What was wrong with space invaders?
64
14/12/2020 17:50:41 1 1
bbc
Booooring.
134
14/12/2020 19:59:58 0 1
bbc
What was wrong with living in caves?
176
15/12/2020 15:53:17 0 0
bbc
I don't know, I guess not much considering it was a much simpler game. It's still around if you'd rather play that.
44
14/12/2020 17:04:10 14 0
bbc
A very ambitious game with so much detail and computer generated assets that the latest RTX 3090 graphics card that can render 8K or 33 million pixels per frame at 60 times a second is maxed out . The real problem with the publishers CD Projekt Red is that they never showed how pathetic the last generation of consoles ran the game and let people pre order .
161
15/12/2020 07:39:48 1 0
bbc
This is exactly the issue.
A simple marketing law that already exists could be applied to companies selling games.
We're used to the whole 'not in game footage' warning, there should be disclaimers about what platforms the demo footage is for.
45
14/12/2020 17:06:27 5 2
bbc
Les androïdes rêvent-ils de moutons électriques .......???
36
14/12/2020 16:46:45 2 4
bbc
Lies, it's a good game with some bugs. Happens to most games that come out.
46
14/12/2020 17:11:30 3 3
bbc
I have had crashes on PS5 many times with CP2077 and low resolution and it is reported by numerous people . Dumb down game shoot and loot , simplistic hacking game mechanics compared to the Batman Arkham games and Alien Isolation . The AI are not very good compared to a lot of first person shooters, overrated and very taxing on many PC and consoles . 1000 watts to play this game Greta will be mad.
41
14/12/2020 16:57:07 8 0
bbc
With the ready availability of patching, it has meant that so many games are rushed through in an unfinished state, and then refined over the following months into decent games.

No Man's Sky and Final Fantasy 14 are classic examples of this.
47
14/12/2020 17:11:46 4 1
bbc
True but considering the game was first announced in 2012 there's no excuse for the game being rushed
48
14/12/2020 17:13:06 7 0
bbc
I'm using PC, already got 60 hours into it, if I live long enough this game might rival my Skyrim play time of over 2000 hours and a lot more if I could see what I did on consoles.
51
14/12/2020 17:25:31 0 1
bbc
Agreed, except for the frame rate drop when driving that my woodpiece suffers XD. So far my fav game that has come out recently. Rivalled potentially by Ghost of Tsushima
39
14/12/2020 16:54:03 4 22
bbc
Not news. Just a meaningless shoot em up role playing adventure whatever game

Possibly a good thing it doesn't work properly
49
14/12/2020 17:14:36 2 0
bbc
What a pointless comment. Kinda like this one tbf.
1
14/12/2020 15:57:13 60 4
bbc
I remember the days when games were released complete, not early access or broken. And there was no paid DLC, just patches and free content. I miss those days.
50
14/12/2020 17:20:07 3 0
bbc
I think you're right that this has exacerbated the issue. But releasing broken games isn't new.

I wish Knights of the Old Republic 2 (2004) had been finished for example... but the community had to do it. This pre-dates horse armour DLC (Oblivion, 2006) and certainly the rise of early access on things like Steam.

I don't know if there was ever a true golden era, but maybe a bit better?
48
14/12/2020 17:13:06 7 0
bbc
I'm using PC, already got 60 hours into it, if I live long enough this game might rival my Skyrim play time of over 2000 hours and a lot more if I could see what I did on consoles.
51
14/12/2020 17:25:31 0 1
bbc
Agreed, except for the frame rate drop when driving that my woodpiece suffers XD. So far my fav game that has come out recently. Rivalled potentially by Ghost of Tsushima
52
14/12/2020 17:02:33 8 2
bbc
Both tweets linked by this BBC news article are memes about other games and don't actually represent the games. There have definitely been issues with the game on PS4/Xbox One, but this article is massively inflating the issues with those tweets.
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15/12/2020 12:39:00 0 0
bbc
Exactly, but not everybody will realise that, BBC should have made that clear (assuming they could even tell themselves!) Also sounds like PS4 and Xbox players are having massivly different issues with the same hardware, which doesn't make sense unless it's something to do with deterioration of the hardware (seen a few comments about it running better on PS4 on external drive compared to internal)
21
14/12/2020 16:25:40 11 1
bbc
Maybe not, but their stock price had absolutely crashed, going from a high of 443PLN on the 4th, to sitting at 296PLN today. It isn't about people returning copies - it's about the main investors jumping ship after losing so much money on this.,
53
14/12/2020 17:26:03 2 0
bbc
The investors are equally responsible for pushing the share price up from 99PLN Jan 2018 so many will have still not lost any money at all, quite the opposite.
Ironically the development costs of CP2077 have already been covered by preorders so they may end up making a healthy profit as time goes on and all the issues get ironed out (might buy it then).
54
14/12/2020 17:26:40 4 2
bbc
A lot of the problems are stemming from the game being released on last generation hardware. Its a beautiful game that requires a very high end PC to look its best and run at a decent framerate.
35
14/12/2020 16:43:21 24 3
bbc
Not a clue about cyberpunk - but I read this to educate myself. Now I’m feeling very old as well as still non the wiser!
Very best wishes to the young - it’s your time now to live life to the full and enjoy every minute.
55
14/12/2020 17:27:06 17 0
bbc
My mate is 55 and has almost completed it..
70
14/12/2020 17:55:49 0 6
bbc
"My mate is 55 and has almost completed it"

Good that he has a full and active social life.
56
14/12/2020 17:27:08 1 3
bbc
There’s brand loyalty ... and then these game makers who forget that you cannot get your hands on such machines anyhow... regardless of the fact some kids cannot afford.
Well, let’s hope the providers of these are reminded of what goes around, comes around
107
14/12/2020 18:52:05 1 3
bbc
Marcus Rashford has already started a campaign to get a PS5 for every children on free school meals.
34
14/12/2020 16:29:14 9 2
bbc
A game playable on consoles you can't manage to get.

Unless you pay the scalpers.

This is the third time Microsoft and Sony have released consoles where the demand has massively outstripped supply.
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14/12/2020 17:10:37 9 0
bbc
Nope, the issues are on xbox one and playstation 4, the older generation. It seems to work fine on beefed-up versions of those, like the xbox one s and ps4 pro. This whole fiasco is because they tried to make it work on those as well, so you're trying to make a game designed for cutting edge PC and the new consoles run on 7 years old hardware.
Wasting life playing punk games. Pathetic. Read a book or something. Do some gardening, bake a loaf of bread for neighbours, volunteer in a local community. This should not be even in the news nor a topic for HYS. Awful hedonistic societies which learn nothing from the current tragedy. No hope in hell for such consumerist, me me me focused people.
Which of the above did you do today?

Im also glad you were able to take the time out of your (obviously) extremely busy life to read a bbc article about a computer game then leave a comment on HYS
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14/12/2020 17:46:38 0 0
bbc
Virtue signals noted. Many of them, shining brightly and oh-so-loudly communicated.

Have you considered making a game out of them? Possible titles:
My Way or the Information Superhighway
I'm so Good it Hurts
Read about Baking the Garden, Voluntarily

Alternatively, make a slick video of them and attach to CV as you apply for jobs like Director of Website Content.
83
14/12/2020 18:18:15 0 0
bbc
Bet you're fun at parties, oh, sorry you never get invited do you?
85
14/12/2020 18:20:19 7 0
bbc
How do you know that people don’t do those things as well? You sanctimonious........
99
14/12/2020 18:31:50 2 0
bbc
I actually do all of these things and I play video games. Sorry if that doesn't fit your narrow bigoted worldview.
140
14/12/2020 20:09:19 1 0
bbc
It was my day off today. I baked bread (for myself), fed the birds, did some bulb planting, tidied up the borders and put lights on the apple tree.

And now I’m browsing a gaming article before sitting back to play some gears (my fav game)

‘Doing other things’ or ‘gaming’ isn’t a binary choice in life.
141
14/12/2020 20:12:31 1 0
bbc
‘...and learn nothing from the current tragedy’

You mean the pandemic, right?

Online gaming has kept me occupied, kept me in touch with my pals (we game together) and IN THE HOUSE. Which is ideal, right?
59
14/12/2020 17:39:04 12 1
bbc
Runs like a dream on my pc
82
14/12/2020 18:17:19 7 3
bbc
PC MasterRace
111
14/12/2020 18:58:01 3 0
bbc
Same here - doesn’t mean the game is any good though.
1
14/12/2020 15:57:13 60 4
bbc
I remember the days when games were released complete, not early access or broken. And there was no paid DLC, just patches and free content. I miss those days.
60
14/12/2020 17:41:06 10 0
bbc
There's a hole in the Desert, somewhere in the US full of E.T game cartridges that disagrees with this sentiment...
86
14/12/2020 18:24:20 0 0
bbc
The game works perfectly fine. It's just that no one, even the developers, knows how.
61
14/12/2020 17:20:41 3 1
bbc
I play it on a standard xbox one, the classic model, one that is many years old. It runs just fine and looks amazing. A few bugs here and there, but nothing serious. But it does use the hardware to the max, because it was the only way for a next gen game on old hardware, so if you have dust on the cooler, heating issues etc, it may cause freezes, but that's just bad maintenance, not the game.
Wasting life playing punk games. Pathetic. Read a book or something. Do some gardening, bake a loaf of bread for neighbours, volunteer in a local community. This should not be even in the news nor a topic for HYS. Awful hedonistic societies which learn nothing from the current tragedy. No hope in hell for such consumerist, me me me focused people.
62
14/12/2020 17:43:35 12 0
bbc
Which of the above did you do today?

Im also glad you were able to take the time out of your (obviously) extremely busy life to read a bbc article about a computer game then leave a comment on HYS
Wasting life playing punk games. Pathetic. Read a book or something. Do some gardening, bake a loaf of bread for neighbours, volunteer in a local community. This should not be even in the news nor a topic for HYS. Awful hedonistic societies which learn nothing from the current tragedy. No hope in hell for such consumerist, me me me focused people.
63
14/12/2020 17:46:38 0 0
bbc
Virtue signals noted. Many of them, shining brightly and oh-so-loudly communicated.

Have you considered making a game out of them? Possible titles:
My Way or the Information Superhighway
I'm so Good it Hurts
Read about Baking the Garden, Voluntarily

Alternatively, make a slick video of them and attach to CV as you apply for jobs like Director of Website Content.
43
14/12/2020 17:03:45 4 3
bbc
What was wrong with space invaders?
64
14/12/2020 17:50:41 1 1
bbc
Booooring.
30
14/12/2020 16:37:56 41 16
bbc
To me, this only enhances CD Project Red as a developer. Yes, they've made a mistake. and QA testing should of picked this up.
But to publicly acknowledge, as well as that level of detail, I can accept.
Companies like EA just release trash, and then hide and never fix or acknowledge.
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14/12/2020 17:52:09 26 4
bbc
I love the Witcher games and I had held CDPR as one of the good guys. But they have wilfully deceived millions of gamers by not showing any footage whatsoever of the game running on the base consoles in the run up to release. They knew what a state it was in and they hid it, conning millions out of their money.

This enhances them as a developer? Are you mad?
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14/12/2020 18:40:17 0 2
bbc
CDPR didn’t want to release it, the reason it was so delayed was due to trying to get it to run on the old consoles. Eventually the publisher had enough and told them to get it out. They were ready to release it for launch of the PS5/XBSX
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14/12/2020 20:00:32 0 4
bbc
They didn't wilfully deceive anybody. If a console owner is daft enough to buy a game unseen, knowing it's been engineered for the next generation of consoles and for superior platforms like PC, it's their own silly fault.

Reviews exist. Youtubers stream. Research before spending instead of making idiotic claims like wilful deception because "they didn't show footage".
39
14/12/2020 16:54:03 4 22
bbc
Not news. Just a meaningless shoot em up role playing adventure whatever game

Possibly a good thing it doesn't work properly
66
14/12/2020 17:52:16 1 0
bbc
At least it's better than watching large kids chase a ball around a small patch.
67
14/12/2020 17:56:53 3 3
bbc
Shame it doesn't work on the 2013-vintage consoles.

Meanwhile, back in this decade, it's so good to see a major game not dumbed down for consoles & then badly ported to PC.

Other developers take note: make for PC & then strip out the good stuff so it can run on consoles. That gets much better press & goodwill than the current practices.
76
14/12/2020 18:09:20 2 0
bbc
Well, that's the issue. It does run on Xbox One and PS4, both released in 2013, but it has some issues. Most problems are due to trying to make a 2019/2020 game run on 2013 tech. But I do understand that CDPR were face with an impossible choice: Release it only on PC and next gen and let down many fans who don't have them, or release it on all platforms and ...you know the rest.
68
14/12/2020 17:57:25 3 1
bbc
Rush to get the game out before the Christmas sales season vs long term reputations damage from loyal gamers. Hope it was worth it
32
14/12/2020 16:39:00 7 4
bbc
Here's an album you've waited for for 5 years, and all the hype has you buzzing for it. It cost you £60, but you're prepared to pay it.

You Play, and 20 seconds into the song, it stops. You need to close your player completely and restart it to start playing again. Then you get 15 seconds before it stops. So you restart again. And the sound quality is that of 64bps mp3. Same thing with this game
69
14/12/2020 17:54:45 1 0
bbc
buy it on vinyl
55
14/12/2020 17:27:06 17 0
bbc
My mate is 55 and has almost completed it..
70
14/12/2020 17:55:49 0 6
bbc
"My mate is 55 and has almost completed it"

Good that he has a full and active social life.
153
15/12/2020 00:17:05 3 1
bbc
Errr, there's a pandemic going on and you're not allowed to meet up with other households.
71
14/12/2020 17:58:05 2 5
bbc
No complaints about the horrendous sexual violence though.
97
14/12/2020 18:28:49 1 1
bbc
Perhaps most people are able to differentiate between videogames and reality. Don't buy it if you've got a problem.
30
14/12/2020 16:37:56 41 16
bbc
To me, this only enhances CD Project Red as a developer. Yes, they've made a mistake. and QA testing should of picked this up.
But to publicly acknowledge, as well as that level of detail, I can accept.
Companies like EA just release trash, and then hide and never fix or acknowledge.
72
14/12/2020 17:58:26 4 0
bbc
"To me, this only enhances CD Project Red as a developer. Yes, they've made a mistake"

Not properly testing something on the hardware it will be running on is not a mistake.
23
14/12/2020 16:28:58 5 0
bbc
This has always been an issue, when deadlines have to be met. I remember ps3 versions of fallout 3 and New Vegas becoming unstable especially near the end of the game as the system struggles to crunch all the data, and little bugs throughout
73
14/12/2020 18:00:03 1 0
bbc
"This has always been an issue, when deadlines have to be met."

They weren't met either.
35
14/12/2020 16:43:21 24 3
bbc
Not a clue about cyberpunk - but I read this to educate myself. Now I’m feeling very old as well as still non the wiser!
Very best wishes to the young - it’s your time now to live life to the full and enjoy every minute.
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14/12/2020 18:07:41 2 0
bbc
Did you see Blade Runner or The Fifth Element? Similar vibe in Cyberpunk.

Did you play Crysis? Similar tech demands.

Did you read Neuromancer? Good classic intro to the cyberpunk world.
75
14/12/2020 18:00:33 1 9
bbc
PC hires botched the game. Go woke, go broke.
90
14/12/2020 18:29:42 1 0
bbc
This game is far from “woke”
67
14/12/2020 17:56:53 3 3
bbc
Shame it doesn't work on the 2013-vintage consoles.

Meanwhile, back in this decade, it's so good to see a major game not dumbed down for consoles & then badly ported to PC.

Other developers take note: make for PC & then strip out the good stuff so it can run on consoles. That gets much better press & goodwill than the current practices.
76
14/12/2020 18:09:20 2 0
bbc
Well, that's the issue. It does run on Xbox One and PS4, both released in 2013, but it has some issues. Most problems are due to trying to make a 2019/2020 game run on 2013 tech. But I do understand that CDPR were face with an impossible choice: Release it only on PC and next gen and let down many fans who don't have them, or release it on all platforms and ...you know the rest.
35
14/12/2020 16:43:21 24 3
bbc
Not a clue about cyberpunk - but I read this to educate myself. Now I’m feeling very old as well as still non the wiser!
Very best wishes to the young - it’s your time now to live life to the full and enjoy every minute.
77
14/12/2020 18:10:33 11 0
bbc
Young? Me and my two brothers play. My eldest is 60 in a year. I'm 53 and my younger is 52.
22
14/12/2020 16:18:03 9 5
bbc
SHocking that a massive company like this can't carry out a proper beta test before releasing a product!

I conducted dozens of these in my last job and never had an issue in the field.
78
14/12/2020 18:13:30 3 2
bbc
Which AAA game did your company put out?
79
14/12/2020 18:13:51 3 0
bbc
The problem is with the same bloadware software development approach that is going on in other sectors. It's 'get it out of the door' and we'll fix it with a patch approach. Gamers are getting a raw deal with patches being delivered all the time.. e.g. COD.
80
14/12/2020 18:14:03 1 2
bbc
I’ve already asked for an Xbox refund. Besides the terrible glitches, I just don’t think it’s a very good game.
30
14/12/2020 16:37:56 41 16
bbc
To me, this only enhances CD Project Red as a developer. Yes, they've made a mistake. and QA testing should of picked this up.
But to publicly acknowledge, as well as that level of detail, I can accept.
Companies like EA just release trash, and then hide and never fix or acknowledge.
81
14/12/2020 18:14:23 2 1
bbc
I'm not hating on CDPR as developers, they're a brilliant team. But some ill-advised mind in the management team made a decision to release it on the older platforms as well, probably for extra money, while sending the devs into total chaos. If you remember, it was only supposed to be for PS 5 and the new Xbox, then Sony delayed the launch and they said it wil run on current gen too.
147
14/12/2020 20:43:05 0 0
bbc
That's just not true in the slightest. Cyberpunk 2077 has been in development for almost ten years.
59
14/12/2020 17:39:04 12 1
bbc
Runs like a dream on my pc
82
14/12/2020 18:17:19 7 3
bbc
PC MasterRace
Wasting life playing punk games. Pathetic. Read a book or something. Do some gardening, bake a loaf of bread for neighbours, volunteer in a local community. This should not be even in the news nor a topic for HYS. Awful hedonistic societies which learn nothing from the current tragedy. No hope in hell for such consumerist, me me me focused people.
83
14/12/2020 18:18:15 0 0
bbc
Bet you're fun at parties, oh, sorry you never get invited do you?
40
14/12/2020 16:55:20 18 0
bbc
Some of the clipping errors in the game are hilarious - specifically genitalia clipping through trousers.
84
14/12/2020 18:20:10 3 0
bbc
Nice
Wasting life playing punk games. Pathetic. Read a book or something. Do some gardening, bake a loaf of bread for neighbours, volunteer in a local community. This should not be even in the news nor a topic for HYS. Awful hedonistic societies which learn nothing from the current tragedy. No hope in hell for such consumerist, me me me focused people.
85
14/12/2020 18:20:19 7 0
bbc
How do you know that people don’t do those things as well? You sanctimonious........
60
14/12/2020 17:41:06 10 0
bbc
There's a hole in the Desert, somewhere in the US full of E.T game cartridges that disagrees with this sentiment...
86
14/12/2020 18:24:20 0 0
bbc
The game works perfectly fine. It's just that no one, even the developers, knows how.
87
14/12/2020 18:25:48 0 0
bbc
And, BBC, I do understand you're not responsible for the tweets, but I suppose many readers don't have gaming experience. Those tweets are memes, or jokes. Exaggerations for humoristic value. The real comparisons would paint a very different picture, as anyone who can look up videos about it on YouTube can find out. And screen-tearing is literally an in-game effect when the character is hurt
88
14/12/2020 18:28:05 1 5
bbc
Got to love the BBC'S attention to detail here, they really know what they're talking about...

>article has screenshot of GTA San Andreas<
93
IC
14/12/2020 18:31:28 9 0
bbc
Thats a tweet, mocking the game - I suggest your own attention to details is even worse than the Beeb
94
14/12/2020 18:32:16 0 0
bbc
Are you serious that you didn’t realise it was a satirical tweet that they added to the article. Or did you just not read it properly?
102
14/12/2020 18:36:54 0 0
bbc
It's a satirical reaction tweet lambasting the visuals...
89
14/12/2020 18:29:03 12 1
bbc
I do sympathise somewhat that it runs as bad as it does, but at the same time its a next gen game trying to run on 7 year old hardware. Imagine trying to bung a Sega Saturn game into your MegaCD and hoping it would run flawlessly...
Witcher 3 was buggy when that came out.

I remember the days when a day 1 patch was taking the cartridge out and blowing in it.
101
14/12/2020 18:35:58 0 0
bbc
You would have hoped they'd put aversion with adequately scaled-down effects would have been made available given they went ahead with the release on these ancient consoles. Stable 30fpps and reduced density and scope to match and they instead put out an absolute mess.
104
14/12/2020 18:47:45 1 0
bbc
That would be a valid argument if CDPR didn't announce it years ago when the PS5 and XSX were just twinkles in their respective designers eyes. The problem is that it was built for PC 1st then ported and optimised for consoles, realising too late that the game was technically over ambitious to run on anything but the newest consoles.
154
15/12/2020 00:36:59 1 0
bbc
This is *not* a next gen game.
When CP2077 started development XB1/PS4 consoles were relatively brand new and considering the game was specifically designed with those - and only those - consoles in mind (there were no crystal balls informing anyone about Series X/PS5) CDPR have absolutely no excuse regarding the poor quality and performance that most gamers are now witnessing.
75
14/12/2020 18:00:33 1 9
bbc
PC hires botched the game. Go woke, go broke.
90
14/12/2020 18:29:42 1 0
bbc
This game is far from “woke”
25
14/12/2020 16:29:53 9 9
bbc
You're dealing with a community who think it's acceptable to give out specific death threats and SWATting because the developers included a particular character in a game.

They are easily upset and over-exaggerate everything.
91
14/12/2020 18:30:10 1 0
bbc
The gaming community absolutely does not think it's acceptable to give out specific death threats and SWATting because the developers included a particular character in a game.
10
14/12/2020 16:09:30 57 0
bbc
This is why I don't pre order games.
92
14/12/2020 18:31:19 5 1
bbc
This was rushed out in an unfinished state for christmas sales. Doubt anyone will be so hyped for this developers games in the future.
115
14/12/2020 19:13:36 3 0
bbc
I beg to differ, this game will be fixed in a few weeks and will be a solid game with solid expansions, this will be forgotten by the time they next release a game, which will likely be Witcher 4 which will have massive hype.
121
14/12/2020 19:25:12 0 0
bbc
Rushed out ... over 8 years?!
156
15/12/2020 01:07:03 0 0
bbc
People were hyped up for this game because of the previous game The Witcher 3, this is just a GTA clone.
163
15/12/2020 08:16:57 0 0
bbc
Less to do with Christmas sales, much more to do with the significance of the date 2020 to the Game source material.
88
14/12/2020 18:28:05 1 5
bbc
Got to love the BBC'S attention to detail here, they really know what they're talking about...

>article has screenshot of GTA San Andreas<
93
IC
14/12/2020 18:31:28 9 0
bbc
Thats a tweet, mocking the game - I suggest your own attention to details is even worse than the Beeb
116
14/12/2020 19:13:41 0 0
bbc
Ouch.
88
14/12/2020 18:28:05 1 5
bbc
Got to love the BBC'S attention to detail here, they really know what they're talking about...

>article has screenshot of GTA San Andreas<
94
14/12/2020 18:32:16 0 0
bbc
Are you serious that you didn’t realise it was a satirical tweet that they added to the article. Or did you just not read it properly?
95
14/12/2020 18:37:43 0 3
bbc
The game was made for the PS5 and new Xbox in mind, not old consoles with old software
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14/12/2020 18:42:11 0 0
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Then they shouldn't have released on older consoles. No excuse
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14/12/2020 19:56:06 0 0
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Really, so what platform was it going to be on before of all the delays....xbox one and ps4. They knew it didn't perform well, but still went ahead with the release.
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14/12/2020 20:00:54 1 0
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Was it, aye? Yet it was started 8 years ago and sold as a Xbox one/ PS4 product!
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14/12/2020 17:52:09 26 4
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I love the Witcher games and I had held CDPR as one of the good guys. But they have wilfully deceived millions of gamers by not showing any footage whatsoever of the game running on the base consoles in the run up to release. They knew what a state it was in and they hid it, conning millions out of their money.

This enhances them as a developer? Are you mad?
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14/12/2020 18:40:17 0 2
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CDPR didn’t want to release it, the reason it was so delayed was due to trying to get it to run on the old consoles. Eventually the publisher had enough and told them to get it out. They were ready to release it for launch of the PS5/XBSX
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14/12/2020 18:43:45 0 0
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CDPR are both developer and publisher.
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14/12/2020 17:58:05 2 5
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No complaints about the horrendous sexual violence though.
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14/12/2020 18:28:49 1 1
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Perhaps most people are able to differentiate between videogames and reality. Don't buy it if you've got a problem.
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14/12/2020 18:37:43 0 3
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The game was made for the PS5 and new Xbox in mind, not old consoles with old software
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14/12/2020 18:42:11 0 0
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Then they shouldn't have released on older consoles. No excuse
Wasting life playing punk games. Pathetic. Read a book or something. Do some gardening, bake a loaf of bread for neighbours, volunteer in a local community. This should not be even in the news nor a topic for HYS. Awful hedonistic societies which learn nothing from the current tragedy. No hope in hell for such consumerist, me me me focused people.
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14/12/2020 18:31:50 2 0
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I actually do all of these things and I play video games. Sorry if that doesn't fit your narrow bigoted worldview.
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14/12/2020 18:40:17 0 2
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CDPR didn’t want to release it, the reason it was so delayed was due to trying to get it to run on the old consoles. Eventually the publisher had enough and told them to get it out. They were ready to release it for launch of the PS5/XBSX
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14/12/2020 18:43:45 0 0
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CDPR are both developer and publisher.