Covid vaccine: GPs in England to begin offering Pfizer jab
14/12/2020 | news | health | 31
Surgeries in more than 100 locations are receiving their first deliveries of the Pfizer jab.
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14/12/2020 15:51:19 3 0
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Potentially very disturbing news today that a new mutation of the virus is to blame for the spread of the virus in London & the SE. Lets hope the vaccine can keep pace with the mutation or we are going to be in a never ending spiral of lockdown.
4
14/12/2020 16:20:24 2 1
bbc
Well bacteria mutate, due to antibiotics, so wouldn't surprise me if treating people with drugs encourages viruses to mutate too. Being in and out of lockdown, holding the virus in circulation, gives it time to mutate too, no doubt. So our efforts to treat it, like multi resistant bacteria, cause something stronger to evolve ... Maybe nature is working against our treatments to survive?
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15/12/2020 12:00:29 0 0
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Don't get whipped up in the fear mongering
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14/12/2020 16:02:46 8 1
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This vaccine is giving us hope, if Jeremy Hunt hadn't devastated the NHS nursing staff and doctors we probably would have a greater health force to deliver the drug. Hunt should be humble and resign from any government positions he holds become the merchant banker he is and learn health is not a business its about saving lives, prevention and the treatment of the unwell
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14/12/2020 16:19:54 0 4
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Beeb has shown several vaccinations - though seemed like the same 90 year old Margaret - can that be good for her to have so many? Maybe it was same footage repeated? Now we've got Long Covid and Fast Covid options would it be possible to get Ultra Short Covid (USC)? - benefits obvious - catch it in the morning - recover in time to go down the Pub and tell your mates - brill!
1
14/12/2020 15:51:19 3 0
bbc
Potentially very disturbing news today that a new mutation of the virus is to blame for the spread of the virus in London & the SE. Lets hope the vaccine can keep pace with the mutation or we are going to be in a never ending spiral of lockdown.
4
14/12/2020 16:20:24 2 1
bbc
Well bacteria mutate, due to antibiotics, so wouldn't surprise me if treating people with drugs encourages viruses to mutate too. Being in and out of lockdown, holding the virus in circulation, gives it time to mutate too, no doubt. So our efforts to treat it, like multi resistant bacteria, cause something stronger to evolve ... Maybe nature is working against our treatments to survive?
27
15/12/2020 00:15:54 0 1
bbc
Tosh. Viruses mutate - that's what they do. And how on earth are lockdowns "holding the virus in circulation"? If anything, precisely the opposite. Please think before posting.
5
14/12/2020 16:31:03 2 5
bbc
Those being offered this vaccine, be cautious, its side effect can kick like a mule. Ask your GP or physician questions before agreeing to it. Remember they need informed consent, if you have Power of Attorney for a relative in a care home, they need to seek consent. Before agreeing to vaccination make sure they know your entire medical history, any allergies, medication issues, eg Warfarin.
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14/12/2020 16:38:26 0 1
bbc
This is good advice, if only the English would learn from the Irish!
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15/12/2020 00:11:28 0 0
bbc
It is completely routine for medics to check whether patients may be at risk from ANY vaccine.
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14/12/2020 16:34:08 4 5
bbc
There is, as I understand it, no definitive evidence or proof that this cov-19 vaccine prevents transmission of Sars-cov-2 and they still cannot confirm how long immunity lasts and also they are learning on the job about adverse reactions! Remember what Alexander Pope said, "Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread". Festina lente, make progress slowly.
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15/12/2020 00:08:17 0 0
bbc
It may not prevent transmission, but how can preventing illness and death be a bad thing? The world cannot afford 10 years to develop vaccines (and of course research will not suddenly stop). The scientists have done a magnificent job.
5
14/12/2020 16:31:03 2 5
bbc
Those being offered this vaccine, be cautious, its side effect can kick like a mule. Ask your GP or physician questions before agreeing to it. Remember they need informed consent, if you have Power of Attorney for a relative in a care home, they need to seek consent. Before agreeing to vaccination make sure they know your entire medical history, any allergies, medication issues, eg Warfarin.
7
14/12/2020 16:38:26 0 1
bbc
This is good advice, if only the English would learn from the Irish!
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15/12/2020 00:11:59 0 0
bbc
Eh?
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14/12/2020 16:42:40 2 0
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I would doubt this vaccine or any other will solve the Cov-19 plague. There are those having certain genes as a Nature report states, which predispose them to have the severe version of cov-19, perhaps gene screening the multitude might be a way of targeting the vulnerable better? Without good local public health measures it will never go away. A judicial inquiry into PPE contracts is looming.
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14/12/2020 16:42:44 6 3
bbc
Crackers that GP's have refused to see patients for months on end but as soon as there is the whiff of an additional cash incentive the doors are flung wide open and the patients are wheeled in.
12
14/12/2020 18:03:24 3 2
bbc
"Crackers..." is a very diplomatic choice of words. "It beggars belief..." or "It's an outrage..." would probably be a more accurate expression of how we're all feeling.
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14/12/2020 19:06:36 3 0
bbc
This additional cash is being used to pay the staff (practice nurses, HCAs, admin) of the GPs so they can vaccinate their patients. They aren’t gaining anything from this extra money.
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14/12/2020 19:50:15 2 0
bbc
GPs have been restricting face to face appointments to reduce the spread of Covid. There will be no profit in vaccinations as the payments do not even cover the cost. GPs will be paying for the “privilege “ and some may go bankrupt as a result. Still you will be fine when there are no GPs left.
10
14/12/2020 17:05:15 3 3
bbc
TBH honest I don't trust anything comming from Matt Hancock and so call British scientists regarding the new variant of the virus. There is no clinical trials conducted with any of the vaccines or antiviral drugs with the new variant so they cannot know for sure it is effective.
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15/12/2020 00:02:37 1 0
bbc
Actually, while there have (obviously) been no trials yet, it's a pretty good bet that the vaccines should remain effective against the new variant, as the mutation does not appear to affect the virus's "spikes", which trigger the immune response. While I share your lack of confidence in Hancock, please don't knock the scientists, who have done a magnificent job in developing the vaccines.
11
14/12/2020 17:48:23 3 2
bbc
I wasn’t allowed to say anything til today, but it's now done so I volunteered for the test phase of COVID19 vaccine (Pfizer). Its the one that has been developed in Russia. Its in 6 different stages I rec'd my 1st dose at 6:20AM. It is safe and I’m ok, with ?o side effects whatsoeve?, and that I feelsh?? ? ???? ???? ??????? ????? ? ? ????, ??? ???? ????? ???. ??????? ???? ????? ?????. Comrades.
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14/12/2020 21:24:32 0 0
bbc
Thats great,
9
14/12/2020 16:42:44 6 3
bbc
Crackers that GP's have refused to see patients for months on end but as soon as there is the whiff of an additional cash incentive the doors are flung wide open and the patients are wheeled in.
12
14/12/2020 18:03:24 3 2
bbc
"Crackers..." is a very diplomatic choice of words. "It beggars belief..." or "It's an outrage..." would probably be a more accurate expression of how we're all feeling.
17
14/12/2020 19:53:24 2 0
bbc
Some of us realise that a crowded doctors waiting room is a high risk place for getting or spreading Covid. Obviously some people think they have a right to kill a doctor and their family by passing Covid onto them.
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Ian
14/12/2020 18:55:30 1 3
bbc
So always saying we believe the goverment on this "new varient" . Guess the wonder vaccine wont have any effect then ? I think the goverment are covering their collective arses because they know the vaccine is only a placebo. Personally, im going to roll the dice and take my chances.
22
14/12/2020 23:55:19 1 0
bbc
Wow, you certainly pack a remarkable quantity of misinformation, tin-hat conspiracy-theorising and scare-mongering into surprisingly few words. Meanwhile, back in the real world, all evidence points to the vaccines being effective, and no, there is no suggestion that they will not be effective against the new variant.
9
14/12/2020 16:42:44 6 3
bbc
Crackers that GP's have refused to see patients for months on end but as soon as there is the whiff of an additional cash incentive the doors are flung wide open and the patients are wheeled in.
14
14/12/2020 19:06:36 3 0
bbc
This additional cash is being used to pay the staff (practice nurses, HCAs, admin) of the GPs so they can vaccinate their patients. They aren’t gaining anything from this extra money.
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14/12/2020 19:14:32 3 0
bbc
I understand the frustration some have expressed at not being able to see a GP f2f. But it has always been my understanding that if you really needed to be seen, you would be. I don’t know personally of any GP or practice nurse who doesn’t want to see a patient face to face. It does come across quite hypocritical of some to complain. Everyone moaned pre covid and just continued! Ridiculous.
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14/12/2020 21:56:51 1 0
bbc
What I’m trying to get across is: if you want to see your GP f2f, ask them during your telephone appointment. It is absolutely not a case that GPs do not want to see you f2f, they are doing it in everyone’s best interest.
9
14/12/2020 16:42:44 6 3
bbc
Crackers that GP's have refused to see patients for months on end but as soon as there is the whiff of an additional cash incentive the doors are flung wide open and the patients are wheeled in.
16
14/12/2020 19:50:15 2 0
bbc
GPs have been restricting face to face appointments to reduce the spread of Covid. There will be no profit in vaccinations as the payments do not even cover the cost. GPs will be paying for the “privilege “ and some may go bankrupt as a result. Still you will be fine when there are no GPs left.
12
14/12/2020 18:03:24 3 2
bbc
"Crackers..." is a very diplomatic choice of words. "It beggars belief..." or "It's an outrage..." would probably be a more accurate expression of how we're all feeling.
17
14/12/2020 19:53:24 2 0
bbc
Some of us realise that a crowded doctors waiting room is a high risk place for getting or spreading Covid. Obviously some people think they have a right to kill a doctor and their family by passing Covid onto them.
20
14/12/2020 21:55:15 2 0
bbc
Took the words right out of my mouth. I completely understand the frustration at restricted f2f appointments but it is for the safety of all. My understanding is that you get given a tele consultation and the GP can decide if you need a f2f. I understand you can also request a f2f when you speak to a GP.
18
14/12/2020 21:23:43 1 0
bbc
Can we have number and running count on the number of high risk vaccinations we need to make in order to go back to some normality?
11
14/12/2020 17:48:23 3 2
bbc
I wasn’t allowed to say anything til today, but it's now done so I volunteered for the test phase of COVID19 vaccine (Pfizer). Its the one that has been developed in Russia. Its in 6 different stages I rec'd my 1st dose at 6:20AM. It is safe and I’m ok, with ?o side effects whatsoeve?, and that I feelsh?? ? ???? ???? ??????? ????? ? ? ????, ??? ???? ????? ???. ??????? ???? ????? ?????. Comrades.
19
14/12/2020 21:24:32 0 0
bbc
Thats great,
17
14/12/2020 19:53:24 2 0
bbc
Some of us realise that a crowded doctors waiting room is a high risk place for getting or spreading Covid. Obviously some people think they have a right to kill a doctor and their family by passing Covid onto them.
20
14/12/2020 21:55:15 2 0
bbc
Took the words right out of my mouth. I completely understand the frustration at restricted f2f appointments but it is for the safety of all. My understanding is that you get given a tele consultation and the GP can decide if you need a f2f. I understand you can also request a f2f when you speak to a GP.
15
14/12/2020 19:14:32 3 0
bbc
I understand the frustration some have expressed at not being able to see a GP f2f. But it has always been my understanding that if you really needed to be seen, you would be. I don’t know personally of any GP or practice nurse who doesn’t want to see a patient face to face. It does come across quite hypocritical of some to complain. Everyone moaned pre covid and just continued! Ridiculous.
21
14/12/2020 21:56:51 1 0
bbc
What I’m trying to get across is: if you want to see your GP f2f, ask them during your telephone appointment. It is absolutely not a case that GPs do not want to see you f2f, they are doing it in everyone’s best interest.
13
Ian
14/12/2020 18:55:30 1 3
bbc
So always saying we believe the goverment on this "new varient" . Guess the wonder vaccine wont have any effect then ? I think the goverment are covering their collective arses because they know the vaccine is only a placebo. Personally, im going to roll the dice and take my chances.
22
14/12/2020 23:55:19 1 0
bbc
Wow, you certainly pack a remarkable quantity of misinformation, tin-hat conspiracy-theorising and scare-mongering into surprisingly few words. Meanwhile, back in the real world, all evidence points to the vaccines being effective, and no, there is no suggestion that they will not be effective against the new variant.
10
14/12/2020 17:05:15 3 3
bbc
TBH honest I don't trust anything comming from Matt Hancock and so call British scientists regarding the new variant of the virus. There is no clinical trials conducted with any of the vaccines or antiviral drugs with the new variant so they cannot know for sure it is effective.
23
15/12/2020 00:02:37 1 0
bbc
Actually, while there have (obviously) been no trials yet, it's a pretty good bet that the vaccines should remain effective against the new variant, as the mutation does not appear to affect the virus's "spikes", which trigger the immune response. While I share your lack of confidence in Hancock, please don't knock the scientists, who have done a magnificent job in developing the vaccines.
6
14/12/2020 16:34:08 4 5
bbc
There is, as I understand it, no definitive evidence or proof that this cov-19 vaccine prevents transmission of Sars-cov-2 and they still cannot confirm how long immunity lasts and also they are learning on the job about adverse reactions! Remember what Alexander Pope said, "Fools rush in, where Angels fear to tread". Festina lente, make progress slowly.
24
15/12/2020 00:08:17 0 0
bbc
It may not prevent transmission, but how can preventing illness and death be a bad thing? The world cannot afford 10 years to develop vaccines (and of course research will not suddenly stop). The scientists have done a magnificent job.
5
14/12/2020 16:31:03 2 5
bbc
Those being offered this vaccine, be cautious, its side effect can kick like a mule. Ask your GP or physician questions before agreeing to it. Remember they need informed consent, if you have Power of Attorney for a relative in a care home, they need to seek consent. Before agreeing to vaccination make sure they know your entire medical history, any allergies, medication issues, eg Warfarin.
25
15/12/2020 00:11:28 0 0
bbc
It is completely routine for medics to check whether patients may be at risk from ANY vaccine.
7
14/12/2020 16:38:26 0 1
bbc
This is good advice, if only the English would learn from the Irish!
26
15/12/2020 00:11:59 0 0
bbc
Eh?
4
14/12/2020 16:20:24 2 1
bbc
Well bacteria mutate, due to antibiotics, so wouldn't surprise me if treating people with drugs encourages viruses to mutate too. Being in and out of lockdown, holding the virus in circulation, gives it time to mutate too, no doubt. So our efforts to treat it, like multi resistant bacteria, cause something stronger to evolve ... Maybe nature is working against our treatments to survive?
27
15/12/2020 00:15:54 0 1
bbc
Tosh. Viruses mutate - that's what they do. And how on earth are lockdowns "holding the virus in circulation"? If anything, precisely the opposite. Please think before posting.
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Ray
15/12/2020 13:04:18 0 0
bbc
Actually he said being in and out of lockdown , please read correctly , probably asking for complete lockdown until we had the vaccine
1
14/12/2020 15:51:19 3 0
bbc
Potentially very disturbing news today that a new mutation of the virus is to blame for the spread of the virus in London & the SE. Lets hope the vaccine can keep pace with the mutation or we are going to be in a never ending spiral of lockdown.
28
15/12/2020 12:00:29 0 0
bbc
Don't get whipped up in the fear mongering
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15/12/2020 12:03:35 0 0
bbc
Hopefully the vaccine will allow us to shed most of the severe restrictions, however this pandemic has highlighted that Britons need to change their personal lifestyles permanently. We wouldn't have had so many deaths if less people were overweight/obese and were more active.
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Ray
15/12/2020 13:00:53 0 0
bbc
Hi I live in a small town 2000 population that is 60% over 70 years of age My mother has COPD 84 yea rold and was given 24 hours to live earlier in the year old and her friend has Cancer 86 , my in laws in laws are 86 and 84 none are aware of any friends getting the vaccine I have friends in Basildon , good health who have had the first jab , is this North v South again
27
15/12/2020 00:15:54 0 1
bbc
Tosh. Viruses mutate - that's what they do. And how on earth are lockdowns "holding the virus in circulation"? If anything, precisely the opposite. Please think before posting.
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Ray
15/12/2020 13:04:18 0 0
bbc
Actually he said being in and out of lockdown , please read correctly , probably asking for complete lockdown until we had the vaccine