Brexit trade talks: UK and EU to 'go the extra mile' in effort to agree deal
13/12/2020 | news | politics | 12,651
Ursula von der Leyen says talks were "constructive", but Boris Johnson warns no deal is "most likely".
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13/12/2020 12:34:41 1787 389
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Yeah, we pretty much knew Sunday wouldn't be the absolute final deadline when Dominic Raab said earlier this week that it definitely would be. Someone who campaigned for Brexit, then became Brexit Secretary, and only then understood the full extent of our reliance on the Dover-Calais crossing, isn't someone whose grasp of a situation should be entirely trusted.
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13/12/2020 12:35:49 1486 274
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How could anyone who saw him on the Marr show this morning, pathetically trying to gaslight the entire country into thinking his previous promises weren't actually what he said at the time, think anything other than this guy hasn't been on the right side of an argument since birth.
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13/12/2020 12:37:01 75 334
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Naive again from you. At least he understands how to negotiate and isn't whinging about every move at every step of the process.
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13/12/2020 12:42:21 86 424
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We will very likely get the deal we want and, if not, we will get no deal and the ability to lead instead of follow, shackled.

If folks don't understand that, then I can't help them. It is obvious to the majority of the non-panicking public who voted for Boris.

Keep going Boris, you're doing a great job ??????
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13/12/2020 12:46:23 47 47
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Its pathetic, like two kids playing best of three and then the loser asking for best of five and so on.
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13/12/2020 12:47:20 29 97
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We'll have you as Foreign Secretary then shall we?
Sort of crap expected from a left wing remainer Removed
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13/12/2020 12:53:01 13 49
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alm down, calm down....always going to happen the EU have a history of doing this, drag out to final possible minute. I predict we will keep some workers rights alignment but drop other common standards and some compromise on fishing (quotas, access at certain times of year), a 50:50 movement by both sides is needed. Or no deal then i suggest we invade
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13/12/2020 12:53:29 12 43
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You need to get over it. Really. Not healthy.
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13/12/2020 12:56:40 12 70
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Pull up stumps Boris. EU has already made ease of goods movement off the table, tariffs would hit EU harder. EU countries now getting nervous, they've push it too far.
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13/12/2020 12:59:21 1 2
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Yezzz suprise
13/12/2020 13:14:53 4 35
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Less than 7% of UK trade goes through Calais. Big deal.
13/12/2020 13:31:08 6 27
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Well, if Corbyn had won the negotiations would have been over by now, resulting in complete surrender to the EU.
13/12/2020 13:37:54 3 7
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"Only then understood the full extent of our reliance on the Dover-Calais crossing"? Jeez such moronic 'thinking'. Regardless 'deal' or 'no deal', the Dover-Calais crossing has ALWAYS been where French farmers and French fishermen blockade to get their message to their government never mind it has nothing to do whatsoever with UK. This 'dumb thinking' simply ignores this FACT.
Trs
13/12/2020 13:46:24 19 3
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Raab - Brexit at any cost. Dover-Calais farce! How do people like this idiot get to the top?
13/12/2020 13:56:08 2 12
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Dominic Rabb certainly did not say anything of the sort. He said it was possible to go beyond Sunday but very unlikely.
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13/12/2020 12:35:10 580 86
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And yet again on it goes. What a waste of time and our money.
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13/12/2020 12:37:38 917 268
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The whole Brexit project has been an enormous waste of time and our money, and will continue to be so for decades to come.
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13/12/2020 12:37:43 13 81
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Go on Boris, the UK’s stance is and always been fair, morally appropriate and justified.
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13/12/2020 12:47:48 46 6
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Yes, a monstrous waste of money - but these talks should now continue 24/7, through Christmas if necessary, until a deal is made. This handful of people have millions of livelihoods at stake.
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13/12/2020 12:47:58 40 4
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Everyone’s time and everyone’s money for the past 4.5 years...both UK and EU. Sucking in resources that should be being expended elsewhere, especially this year.
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13/12/2020 12:49:04 12 7
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The Bank of England will make more money from thin air, it's called hyper inflation
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Forbes has calculated that the cost of Brexit preparations is now virtually equivalent to the entire UK contribution to the EU since 1973.
13/12/2020 13:43:54 1 1
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The negotiations are a waste of time and money?
13/12/2020 14:03:42 1 1
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What is the overall cost of brexit to date? It would nice to have a number.
13/12/2020 15:25:08 0 1
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and on and on and on and on
13/12/2020 15:56:43 0 1
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Has anyone put a cost on this yet? Looks as though it could have paid our subs for at least a decade.
13/12/2020 17:43:55 0 0
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You don’t understand.
13/12/2020 17:49:49 0 0
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Are these negotiators on overtime? It must be costing us a fortune.
13/12/2020 18:57:54 0 0
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You mean like the vote in the first place are people's lives that bad they needed to leave the EU and think this will make it better, I don't think so
13/12/2020 20:45:03 0 0
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And staying in the failing EU would not cost us even more?
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13/12/2020 12:35:16 14 7
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So not a deadline then, I’m shocked
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13/12/2020 12:35:36 301 56
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Easiest deal in history.
oven-ready comment
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13/12/2020 13:07:33 10 3
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“... unless politics gets in the way”

You forgot the rest of the quote.
13/12/2020 13:58:00 1 4
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One of the most beneficial changes in our history.
13/12/2020 13:59:01 5 5
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Why are you still quoting a bit of what Liam Fox actually said ? You're helping to spread fake news to back your argument
13/12/2020 15:26:52 4 3
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Yup its called no deal , but we have to pretend we want one, politics etc.
13/12/2020 17:46:29 1 0
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It will just be the best.
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13/12/2020 12:39:06 4 4
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Well they haven't agreed anything, even if we end up with no deal more negotiations will follow as it's a bad state for everyone
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13/12/2020 12:35:44 1137 207
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Easiest trade deal in history?
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13/12/2020 12:45:50 978 1128
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Would have been had the EU had its businesses interests at heart. Unfortunately it had its own political ones to the forefront, and the need to see us punished for having the temerity to leave
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13/12/2020 12:41:22 62 26
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“ Easiest trade deal in history?”

I’m guessing it needs a little longer in the oven.
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13/12/2020 12:46:54 101 35
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A glib statement made by those promising everything to everyone with no apparent intention of coming good on the promises.

Unicorns and sunlit uplands, anyone?

How about "cake and eat it"?

Depending on whether it's no deal or a deal we'll still be worse off than had we stayed as a member - unless the illusion of "sovereignty" (that we had not lost) or blue passports are *really* important....
Left wing idiot Removed
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13/12/2020 12:56:32 24 15
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Oven Ready.
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13/12/2020 12:58:38 14 28
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It's what happens when you go into a negotiation wanting an amicable solution, the other side take you for a ride. That is what has happened so far.
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13/12/2020 13:05:58 8 5
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“.... unless politics gets in the way”

There. I’ve completed the quote for you.
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13/12/2020 13:05:41 6 2
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Why don't you post the whole Quote? ' We won't get a deal, but it should be the EASIEST DEAL IN HISTORY' you repeater....REPEATER...REPEATER....REPEATOR........
13/12/2020 13:09:11 3 14
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EU said impossible to change the WA. Boris won the GE, EU changed the WA oven ready as Boris said. Internal Market bill about to become Law! Lo and behold EU change NI protocol. Only thing he (Leave) got wrong was the £350 mill, actually turned out to be £290 mill. Now this negotiation, I predict the red lines on both sides will become blurred and deal done.
13/12/2020 13:10:07 3 7
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Thats what we had ready and waiting until the Benn Bill wrecked it.
13/12/2020 13:35:14 2 7
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It is difficult to negotiate with an inflexible monolith.
13/12/2020 13:49:04 5 2
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oh, what a surprise that you omitted the rest of the sentence - " the only reason we wouldn't come to a free and open agreement is because politics gets in the way of economics"
13/12/2020 14:00:25 4 2
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No. It never was. Everyone knew that. But it was a great persuasion tactic along with that slogan on the side of a bus... For those that believed it, you were stupid. Thanks for that.
13/12/2020 14:08:49 2 6
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Of course it should have been, if the EU put the people ahead of a dodgy social,political and economic experiment. We are both aligned in so many ways, what the EU fear is UK doing well without taking their laws because they know, as sure as night is day, when we do well, and we will, the experiment will melt.
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13/12/2020 12:35:45 202 48
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Boris is definitely walking away this time. Definitely...
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13/12/2020 12:43:56 68 233
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That's what you said last time, and the time before that ad nauseam. You were wrong then and you'll continue to be. Can't bear a strong PM can you!
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13/12/2020 12:39:15 10 2
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“ Boris is definitely walking away this time. Definitely...”

I thought it was going to be version 7 of Oct 15th too.
13/12/2020 13:08:54 0 3
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......maybe, gonna be the one that saves me
13/12/2020 13:58:55 1 4
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Who are you, Mystic Meg?
13/12/2020 15:14:51 0 1
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How much have you bet on it. Same amount as farage bet on Trump winning the election, £10K.
13/12/2020 15:37:25 1 1
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why is he still there can you explain
13/12/2020 15:41:30 0 1
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Definitely maybe.
13/12/2020 17:59:10 0 0
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Is that a definite maybe perhaps ?
13/12/2020 22:36:27 0 0
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have you ever called your members out on strike.
13/12/2020 22:37:54 0 0
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have you actually represented anyone?
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13/12/2020 12:35:47 98 14
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at least it was early so we can enjoy our sunday lunch
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13/12/2020 14:28:53 60 10
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Roast porkies !
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13/12/2020 12:34:41 1787 389
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Yeah, we pretty much knew Sunday wouldn't be the absolute final deadline when Dominic Raab said earlier this week that it definitely would be. Someone who campaigned for Brexit, then became Brexit Secretary, and only then understood the full extent of our reliance on the Dover-Calais crossing, isn't someone whose grasp of a situation should be entirely trusted.
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13/12/2020 12:35:49 1486 274
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How could anyone who saw him on the Marr show this morning, pathetically trying to gaslight the entire country into thinking his previous promises weren't actually what he said at the time, think anything other than this guy hasn't been on the right side of an argument since birth.
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13/12/2020 12:39:27 55 273
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Labour minion by any chance?????????
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13/12/2020 12:52:19 30 7
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Dim Dom
13/12/2020 13:09:48 26 3
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And I though Marr gave him him a pretty easy time - didn't even ask about the OBR and BoE no-deal economic/unemployment predictions
13/12/2020 13:13:23 6 24
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I don’t disagree at all, but the low point for me was the rant from Milliband. Was he on something illegal?
13/12/2020 13:14:53 5 18
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You need to look up the meaning of gaslight. Nothing worse than someone trying to look clever by using a trendy word and then getting it all wrong.
13/12/2020 13:17:48 29 4
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You know things are going bad in the Brexit camp when Ann Widdecombe thinks that negotiating from a 'no deal' position is one of strength. At least Ed Milliband got it right.
13/12/2020 13:32:27 4 15
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Or you can avoid committing yourself to anything at all, which is what Starmer does.
VoR
13/12/2020 13:42:11 12 2
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So his argument now is that it was our of our control. Which just reinforces how dishonest he was to make that statement originally.

I'm not anti Tory, and I don't think that people born into a live of privilege are inherently better or worse, but this particular Tories make my blood boil with their incompetence and lies for their own selfish reasons.
13/12/2020 13:53:27 3 11
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Even funnier was Milliband sidestepping every question asked by Marr.....like it's programmed into every Labour MP to only criticise other views and never offer one of their own.
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13/12/2020 12:35:53 18 45
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Well done Boris, stand your ground
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13/12/2020 12:41:07 6 14
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Absolutely, and we, the country should stand behind you. Are we British or politically European?
As if the Europeans can throw us out. We depend on each other.
Good luck Boris.
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13/12/2020 12:35:55 297 54
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Why don't the EU say enough's enough, no deal?
Might they really want one?
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13/12/2020 12:38:23 445 408
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Of course they want one but they also want to hurt the UK as much as possible for daring to upset their applecart
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13/12/2020 12:39:02 34 2
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And if BoJo didn't want one he'd walk away too....
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13/12/2020 12:39:40 46 14
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well of course they do. They are not as stupid as Johnson and his cabinet of fools. Why would any sane person not want a deal?
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13/12/2020 12:40:12 27 11
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Then the UK would try to blame them for talks breaking down. Boris has tried to provoke them akr3ady6
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13/12/2020 12:44:52 45 27
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Yes they want one but they have very strong values of fairness and equality that they will never undermine. The EU is about more than money. Our elitist, self serving government will never understand that.
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13/12/2020 12:49:46 31 4
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Of course they want one - free trade is beneficial to both sides, but it must be fair to EU member states. Both sides need a deal.
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13/12/2020 12:55:03 20 17
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The EU know they're dealing with plonkers in the UK government who are playing fast with the lives of 56m people. The EU want to protect the people of the UK because that's what they do and did with us when this pitiful country joined in the 70s and did in southern Europe after the fall of the Fascist regimes and later in eastern Europe after the fall of the Soviet Empire.
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13/12/2020 12:55:33 5 2
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Of course EU wants a deal, just not at the expense of the present or future integrity of the single market. It seems from reports here (RoI) that negotiations have mostly concluded and have now boiled down to finding a mutually-agreed mechanism of ensuring that. So, it would be a dereliction of duty not to keep talking.
13/12/2020 13:11:37 3 7
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It has to be the UK's decision to walk away in order for the EU to maintain the high ground on the Irish border. I don't think further concessions will necessarily be coming from the EU side, though, as they hold the majority of the cards.
13/12/2020 13:39:03 5 4
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Because they need one under all their sanctimonious haughty clap trap about their precious Single Market.
13/12/2020 13:44:33 1 5
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They above all will not walk away so Bojo can blame them and walk scot free, claiming it's all their fault, they pulled away. He'll do that anyway of course, but it won't be based on facts...
13/12/2020 14:10:18 1 3
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If the EU walk away bojo will have someone else to blame for his failure.
he has been trying to provoke the EU to walk all year so that he can get his no-deal which has been the plan all along.
13/12/2020 14:32:51 4 2
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No, it's more like 'get a deal where we the EU can still control the UK' and 'down the road' they'll come back with their tail between their legs crying to be 'let back in' and THEN we can really screw them.
Do your HOMEWORK. Read the history behind the EU. UK was EXCLUDED when it started and then the Federal State Dictatorship thinking came about.
13/12/2020 14:36:57 1 5
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Why should the EU be pulling BoJo from this shite-pond he got himself into? Let him drown in his own lies.
13/12/2020 14:50:25 1 2
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If you are fine with whatever the outcome, why panic?? EU keeping their house in order and playing along.
13/12/2020 15:12:52 0 2
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Eeeeeer! Lucky we have rocket scientists here
13/12/2020 15:26:09 1 2
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No deal is the best deal.
Like your Mum, you mean? Removed
13/12/2020 15:48:18 2 2
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Of course they do. So should the UK. The head of the WTO said it would be better to have a deal. Too many total fruitcakes in the UK. I blame BSE.
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What a surprise.... NOT
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It's like watching someone put off going to the doctors when they know they have cancer.

Boris is delaying the inevitable so he doesn't have to accept the painful reality of a no deal brexit.
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13/12/2020 12:47:44 25 8
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This will go right on until 31 December, when the EU have boxed Johnson totally into the corner, when he will capitulate. Unless of course he blinks before then...
At least we will see the politicians Xmas ruined, as they will have ruined ours for years to come.
13/12/2020 13:14:29 2 4
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Is that really the best you can up with....wow!!!
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Neither party wishing to take the blame for walking away...
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13/12/2020 12:37:28 9 6
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Nah Tory focus groups saying Brexit is a stupid idea.
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13/12/2020 12:36:00 1127 366
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How many broken promises now Mr Johnson?
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Absolutely none, he has so far done what he promised
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Momentum poster
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13/12/2020 13:01:11 15 9
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If a deadline were a promise you'd be on Santa's naughty list.
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13/12/2020 13:04:34 3 35
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you should start reading about what brexit is about and you will see the broken promises are from the EU. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1362448/eu-news-brexit-uk-trade-talks-canada-deal-michel-barnier-david-frost-spt
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13/12/2020 13:07:40 31 5
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The gullibility of brexiteers is quite breathtaking.

They will believe anything that fits into their narrow, uninformed, xenophobic, book burning, nationalistic world view.
13/12/2020 13:18:31 8 3
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How many illegitimate children? The man doesn't do telling the truth or keeping promises. Grandiosity, lack of empathy, lying, using people, effortlessly changes positions, never ever wrong, always someone's else's fault : my money is on narcissistic personality. The right leader for Britain, a country that only looks at its own navel and is never wrong.
13/12/2020 13:31:10 6 2
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Far too many. Enough is enough.
13/12/2020 13:33:12 1 6
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He was elected to achieve Brexit and he will.
13/12/2020 13:37:28 4 2
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He's trying to catch up with his mate The Donald!
13/12/2020 13:41:02 3 2
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...all of them.
13/12/2020 13:46:24 1 2
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How many Politicians have Not Broken any Promises ?
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We just need to join the EEA and Customs Union next.
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I take it you know what that means - BRINO... Many of you still don't understand what being a EEA member means? Live in Norway and they will tell you, acceptance of nearly every rule and law made in the EU.
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That's just fine with me...
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13/12/2020 13:05:43 40 4
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That's what Vote Leave promised. Their campaign leaflet said "There is a free trade area from Iceland to the Russian border and we will be part of it." That was EFTA they were describing, and Leave promised we would join it. If May had said in 2016, "we're leaving the EU and joining EFTA" she would have achieved what Leave promised without damaging the UK. Tory anti-EU fanatics just wouldn't agree
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13/12/2020 13:50:01 11 2
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That would be great. All the benefits of EU membership with none of the politics. EEA/EFTA
membership is the only sensible outcome after the error of June 2016, and it wouldn’t even require a referendum. These selfish extremist Tories won’t do it, but a future government with the national interest at heart might take Britain (or England if that’s all that’s left) into the EEA/EFTA.
13/12/2020 13:56:34 4 18
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The Theresa May government would probably have signed up to something like this, but because she was obstructed by the Remainer MPs in Parliament, Johnson took over, won the election, and is pursuing a proper Brexit.

Thanks Remainers! You have helped the cause!
13/12/2020 18:52:25 1 1
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Or, better still, just rejoin the EU.
You know it makes sense.
13/12/2020 18:58:15 0 0
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Yea please, it will bring extra jobs and reduce all the red-tape.

Very good idea.
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13/12/2020 12:36:16 1506 574
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Well Mr Johnson. Decision time is fast approaching.

No Deal and destroy the country
or
Deal and destroy your political career.

Let's see where your loyalties truly lie.
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13/12/2020 12:38:41 817 1337
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Go on Boris, the UK’s stance is and always been fair, morally appropriate and justified.
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....deal and destroy his career and the country
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"No Deal" will not destroy the country...
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Seeing as his current political career is very much based on a promise of a deal, a result of "no deal" should be the end of his career.
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13/12/2020 12:50:00 10 50
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left wing remainer crap
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13/12/2020 12:51:32 15 61
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Destroy the country with Brexit? Seriously?
Have you seen the graph of the impact on our economy when compared to that of Covid? It's a minor blip in comparison.
Ending talks at the June deadline, we would have had 6 months to plan for a 'no deal' which is where it's going to end-up anyway.
The EU have acted in bad faith with the talks - adding extra demands. Any failure is firmly in their court
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13/12/2020 12:53:02 10 46
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Destroy the country ? Rubbish. We're talking about 2% of GDP at most.
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Shut up you are so wrong
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13/12/2020 12:54:38 3 19
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Which country is that then, the political project from the 30s is finished!!
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13/12/2020 12:57:39 4 23
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Rubbish. No deal would in no way destroy the country. No doubt you are sat in your french holiday home getting worried.
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13/12/2020 12:59:29 4 25
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After seeing how the EU has behaved during these negotiations I am amazed that anyone would want to be under their heel.They, never once offered any form of a compromise and always insisting that we must make a com[lete surrender. Consider the French, macron Insists thaT France has the right to continue to fish, as he likes, in our waters after we become independent. Yet another EU dictator!!!
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13/12/2020 13:01:20 23 2
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He'll go for No Deal. He'll put his loyalties to the Conservative party (and himself) first before that of the country. It's the rest of us poor sods who are going to have to suffer for this debacle.
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13/12/2020 13:04:32 7 2
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He's already destroyed his political career it the party he's now destroying
13/12/2020 13:09:11 3 27
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Joining the EU was what destroyed this once great country.
13/12/2020 13:09:41 4 20
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What are you on about, destroy the country! The present deal allows Europe to still control us. Read about the "level playing Field" on the BBC website. Yes, we need a deal, but not on the present terms. Oh, and we will survive with a no deal.
13/12/2020 13:13:05 1 9
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Really Flawed Logic.... wow, glad you are not in charge.
13/12/2020 13:15:16 5 1
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His political career is ruined either way, at least with a deal he wont be known as the psycho who dragged the UK down with him.
13/12/2020 13:17:27 6 1
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Whichever he does he'll up and leave soon after. He's not interested in ruling over the carcass - just picking it clean and scarpering.
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13/12/2020 12:36:19 23 7
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Oh no, please make up your minds - enough is enough.
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13/12/2020 12:41:26 11 2
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Come to think of it, surely it should be the extra Kilometre..
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13/12/2020 12:36:19 11 9
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Johnson will walk 500 miles and Johnson will walk 500 miles more ....

He must be knackered.

??
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13/12/2020 12:38:47 5 3
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No he doesn't. He hides in the back of a van to get back where he started.
13/12/2020 22:01:20 0 0
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Yawn!
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13/12/2020 12:36:32 17 21
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It just goes on and on and on. Just leave already and get on with it. Enough.
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13/12/2020 12:38:49 4 4
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Yeah, life eh? Just goes on and on day after day - why don't you do us all a favour, just get on with it and leave already.
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13/12/2020 12:36:39 23 21
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Ohh good grief....just leave
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13/12/2020 12:36:39 76 20
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When is Boris's "U" turn coming this week or next?
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13/12/2020 12:36:42 19 8
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The “extra” mile, or in the case of French fishing boats, the extra 12 miles
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13/12/2020 12:39:05 4 11
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It's 200 miles.
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13/12/2020 12:36:43 17 28
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I voted to remain.
But glad we are leaving.

Shoukd noteextend Brexit talks with EU crooks!
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I’ll bet you did!
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13/12/2020 12:42:01 1 3
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I voted to leave.
Now sad we are leaving.
Should extend Brexit talks with EU friends!
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13/12/2020 12:36:47 19 35
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JUST GET ON WITH IT. BREXIT MEANS BREXIT. NO DEAL NOW
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BEANZ MEANZ HEINZ... ON TOAST NOW. JUST GET ON WITH IT!
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Call the Samaritans?
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13/12/2020 12:36:49 61 22
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"Despite the exhaustion after almost a year of negotiations, despite the fact that deadlines have been missed over and over, we think it is responsible at this point to go the extra mile" von der Leyen, December 2020.
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Absolutely, because no-deal would be a calamity for us all in Europe and a betrayal to the UK electorate.
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13/12/2020 12:48:31 36 42
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Not true, without obeying Europe it gives us flexibility and options to do the right thing for our population.
It doesn't stop us from agreeing with, working with and living with the Europeans.
13/12/2020 17:37:52 0 0
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Calamity for Europe, annoying for UK, but really, a betrayal? Remainers told us before the vote we'd leave the Single Market and Customs Union, so we voted for that
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Sam
13/12/2020 12:36:52 18 9
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This will go on and on. Until the shoddy compromise at the eleventh hour.
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13/12/2020 12:39:34 17 2
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Don’t be ridiculous. 11th hour was ages ago ??
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13/12/2020 12:46:45 1 1
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Stop making comments and start making positive suggestions?
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13/12/2020 12:34:41 1787 389
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Yeah, we pretty much knew Sunday wouldn't be the absolute final deadline when Dominic Raab said earlier this week that it definitely would be. Someone who campaigned for Brexit, then became Brexit Secretary, and only then understood the full extent of our reliance on the Dover-Calais crossing, isn't someone whose grasp of a situation should be entirely trusted.
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13/12/2020 12:37:01 75 334
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Naive again from you. At least he understands how to negotiate and isn't whinging about every move at every step of the process.
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13/12/2020 12:46:04 180 30
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Negotiate with what? The UK wants/needs a deal and asked the EU for one thinking it would be easy
Now now girls Removed
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13/12/2020 12:54:12 79 10
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The one who has no idea about negotiating is Bozo Johnson. Without him we would already have a deal
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13/12/2020 13:04:45 57 6
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@"At least he understands how to negotiate"

Ermm, no.

Watching this government's attempts at negotiation - the whole team, Raab included - has been like watching the most cringeworthy episode of the apprentice...

.. a bunch of Eton chancers who think they are god's gift, but who actually are so unbelievably naïve and incompetent it defies belief.

So hollow, so obvious, so wrong & so pathetic.
13/12/2020 13:15:10 7 23
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Can you imagine the likes of the hysterical (demonstrated on Marr today) Ed Milliband having anything to do with these negotiations? He’d have sold us out by now.
13/12/2020 13:16:33 15 3
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Ha ha - what school of negotiations did you go to?
13/12/2020 13:23:03 25 2
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Dominc Rabb does not know how to negotiate. That is clearly evident. There are certain protocols you apply when negotiating, Raab is not applying any of them.
13/12/2020 13:32:16 29 4
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Without a deal the current plans are that £1.5T worth of assets will cut across to EU based platforms on 1/1/21. With that goes all the tax income that is generated by those assets.

The EU know this so they have no incentive to do anything other than watch it happen.

Tell me again how your kwitter leaders 'know how to negotiate' in this situation?
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13/12/2020 12:37:20 285 62
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Once again another extension to talks. If the previous multiple extensions to negotiations (despite several threats to walk away) weren’t enough proof of how damaging a no deal will be, this extension surely settles that.
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13/12/2020 12:57:12 380 94
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Boris will get a trash deal and claim it's the best deal ever. He knows no deal would be political and economic suicide.

Remember the last minute 'oven ready' ready that breaks up the UK by putting a trade border between N. Ireland and GB? You know, the one he then wanted to break international law to get out of.

Brexit has torn the UK apart.
13/12/2020 13:47:00 6 19
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You cannot have proof when something is only just starting! What you mean is that you hope for a bad outcome so that you can say 'I told you so'.
13/12/2020 14:23:59 9 15
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"Weren't enough proof of how damaging a no deal would be"? You know, back in the '30s, street dogma was "see how damaging it is not to join". There simply is no proof how damaging no deal will be, however, we clearly see how damaging it will be to agree a deal whereby if we choose to not to follow an EU ruling, the EU get to 'punish' us in some way 'arbitrarily'. That's Federal State Dictatorship.
13/12/2020 15:24:52 0 2
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It will only be a few days, deal or no deal. Botg sides need a couple of weeks to sort borders.
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13/12/2020 12:37:22 699 90
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Anyone else betting that on December 31st they'll agree to extend the talks to March 31st?
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13/12/2020 12:42:20 385 34
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No deal just means more negotiations
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13/12/2020 12:45:48 9 29
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Yes, probably.
However, I think we should also show Europe our resolve by starting to get and do deals on the international stage without them. Perhaps to 'politely' start to enforce the fishing rights too.
If they want to play with us they can look over our shoulders and follow us.
The other kids in the playground are after change.
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13/12/2020 12:48:41 6 4
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I hope so.
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13/12/2020 12:48:12 16 7
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They can’t, it’s UK law. Not enough time left to change it. It’s a deal or WTO starting January 1st 2021
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13/12/2020 12:57:35 25 7
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I hope so., This Tory political Grandstanding has been ridiculous. Stop pandering to your core support of flag waving French haters and stay around that table until a deal has been concluded.

99% of the public couldn't care less about the fish, you ask any of them, which is more important, fish you don't eat, or flying to Spain this summer?
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13/12/2020 13:03:16 13 11
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I doubt it, simply because the public appetite for the current situation (or its ext.) will have finally run out after 4.5 long years. The start of a new year is the most convenient time in which to start afresh, and Leaver Boris and his Leaver government will do just that. Covid is the bigger fish to fry and the mounting debt of the EU economy is not something Downing Street wants on its books.
13/12/2020 13:14:49 7 2
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Agree totally, Martin. March 31 is a bit optimistic - I reckon come March 31, they will want to extend it to end July
13/12/2020 13:33:55 6 13
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No they won't, Boris only cares about keeping the maximum number of Red Wall seats for GE 2024. He would lose the next election if he ever extended the deadline as those pesky Northerners don't accept capitulation kindly. Bless, the champagne socialist swigging establishment who underestimated them so badly as begrudgingly I have to hand it to Boris, he read and played their mood so well.
13/12/2020 13:39:36 0 3
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Some people are, look at the bookies' odds.
13/12/2020 14:00:03 3 4
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I hope not. The Dec 31st deadline is the only reason we may get progress - one way or another.

Whilst no deal may seem bad, it is preferable to continued uncertainty for business with no end point in sight.
13/12/2020 15:03:49 3 1
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March 31st maybe a little early. I suspect that the EU might wish to force an extension until after the upcoming local/Scottish/Welsh elections in May. A disastrous result for the Conservatives particularly in Scotland would strengthen EU and weaken Boris's negotiating position.
13/12/2020 15:06:02 2 1
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Can't be done. Leave 31st Dec is Law (proper Law).
13/12/2020 15:06:55 1 2
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What year? I'm betting 2022, if he lasts that long. If Raab takes over there wont be any negotiations at all, he wants the cash he feels the tax payer owes him.
13/12/2020 15:12:53 3 3
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Why the surprise, it shows both sides wants deal?

But when the EU effectively want control of our waters to fish in and give us less fish out of our own waters... You have to wonder what sort of people you are dealing with
13/12/2020 15:21:33 1 2
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Martin you are 100% right. We will get “We are 95% agreed but not enough to have a deal . We will talk until Easter and then that’s it. “ Well done Boris thank you. However I have a question, sorry. Which Easter 2021, 22, 23...
13/12/2020 15:34:36 1 1
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go on then. What odds are you offering?
13/12/2020 15:47:59 1 1
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I am praying this will not be.........
13/12/2020 16:10:16 0 2
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The EU and UK should just cut their losses and call it a day, with No Deal. They obviously have absolute differences and will never see eye to eye whilst Boris is PM.
13/12/2020 16:16:36 0 1
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Would bet on it, not against it.
Best bet, a meaningless fudge.
13/12/2020 16:43:04 2 1
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Yes and then another 3 months and then Nicola Sturgeon will demand a vote on Brexit again and then another 3 months and then Jeremy Corbyn will be voted leader of the Labour Party again by the silly brigade and then Nicola Sturgeon will demand another vote on Scotland leaving the UK and on and on and on........
13/12/2020 16:43:18 0 0
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Johnson will be a Dead Man walking if he does
13/12/2020 16:45:13 1 0
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would have thought april the first was more appropriate
13/12/2020 17:20:11 0 0
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No. April 1st is better. Hmmm . . .
13/12/2020 18:24:47 0 0
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You didn't say which year....decade.....century.......it needs doing now!
13/12/2020 19:51:27 0 0
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That would involve common sense and our governments favourite word, pragmatism, which they never actually show.
13/12/2020 22:12:09 0 0
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what year?
13/12/2020 22:12:35 0 0
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Very likely
14/12/2020 15:46:03 0 0
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No, thats the end of the pier. Afterwards the damage is done and all trust is lost.
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Jay
13/12/2020 12:37:23 9 9
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Say hello to the UK of the future - permanent paralysis and fiddling whilst Rome burns. Are we all going to sit here whilst it withers away to nothing? Surely now is the time to park aside petty prejudices for both leave & remainers and re-evaluate our national situation?

There won't be anything left on this island if we don't grow up fast...
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13/12/2020 12:42:57 5 3
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Very poetic but very little help.
We need to stand our ground, show a little back bone. Negotiate well and remain friends.
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13/12/2020 12:37:24 75 8
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What a big surprise.
13/12/2020 17:38:25 18 2
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It is the year 2099, everyone is trading as they were a hundred years ago and Brexit has just been postponed again.
But no one even knows what Brexit is, or what it means anymore, they just keep postponing whatever it is, as it has become traditional to do so.
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13/12/2020 12:37:26 14 12
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Having threatened No Deal ... the only way forward now is a closer relationship to the EU .....

????????????
13/12/2020 22:02:10 0 1
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31/12/20

No Deal Brexit - done

Do try and keep up!
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13/12/2020 12:37:27 207 42
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Go the extra mile... I should think so. It's only our jobs and livelihoods on the line, eh?
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13/12/2020 12:55:04 54 163
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why are "our" jobs and livelihoods on the line ?
13/12/2020 13:08:46 9 4
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And EU jobs too.
13/12/2020 17:12:23 2 10
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For a french fisherman or german auto-worker you don't work a lot, you post on here a lot though.
13/12/2020 17:53:48 0 0
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The extra mile? They’ve already done about 4 marathons. Just get on with it! Get a deal.
13/12/2020 23:35:46 0 0
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yep, but not the livelihood and jobs of the Eton chums though
14/12/2020 01:27:27 0 0
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The EU will fall short and go the extra kilometre.
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13/12/2020 12:37:27 13 18
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No one can say Boris is not trying. With luck the EU will blink and we'll have some sort of a deal. If not, then they've had enough time to sort this out and we have to go it alone on WTO terms. Not the worst thing in the world, we'll all survive. it may be a bit rocky at the start, but we've had to deal with worse things over the years.
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ajl
13/12/2020 12:43:02 3 4
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Where the land of milk and honey?

Conned the population?
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13/12/2020 12:35:58 13 9
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Neither party wishing to take the blame for walking away...
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13/12/2020 12:37:28 9 6
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Nah Tory focus groups saying Brexit is a stupid idea.
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13/12/2020 12:37:29 21 17
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This shows that both sides recognise the importance of a deal, and want a deal. It just depends on how much they want it.

I don't care so much about a few mackerel, but I definitely do care that the EU negotiating position is to retain some sort of legal hold over UK. That would be unacceptable.
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13/12/2020 12:41:06 12 5
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Unacceptable to you, maybe.
But absolutely not worth sacrificing 350,000 jobs for.
Unless you would be happy to look every one of those people in the eye and tell them that their ruined lives are acceptable collateral damage for your political purity.
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13/12/2020 12:37:31 437 97
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Year 2100, and the UK/EU have agreed a further extension of trade talks. Yawn of the century. Get your deal in the oven Boris, at this rate it won’t be ready for Christmas! Oh - and for dessert, Eton Mess.
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13/12/2020 12:48:21 436 155
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The whole Brexit experiment is an Eton Mess.

Let's start counting all of the actual damage it does to the country when we leave the existing trade deals on the 1st of January, shall we?
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13/12/2020 12:56:27 7 8
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If you want to criticise fine. At least do it on the truth instead of continually peddling this lie. SNP Labour won't let it go as they have nothing else.
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13/12/2020 12:51:20 5 12
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oh how terribly witty. well done poppet
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13/12/2020 13:01:32 9 10
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And the SNP has now held its 25th independence referendum to leave the UK unlike the SNP the UK government are actually respecting a democratic vote !!!!
13/12/2020 13:37:51 2 9
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Calm down, do you think zee Germans funded EU now would hand out the vast sums of money from the ECB that the BofE hands to your Wee Dictator. Don't get me wrong if I were a Scot, I would vote SNP, but only to squeeze the maximum amount of money, but be careful of throwing the Nasty Party Baby out with the bath water. Got to had it to you canny Scots as I think not.
13/12/2020 13:42:00 0 2
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I thought dessert was Sour ??.
13/12/2020 13:42:34 2 6
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Yawn. Once again, for the benefit of Remainers, the phrase 'oven ready deal' referred to the Withdrawal Agreement, which has been implemented, not the trade negotiations.
Some Remainers on the BBC website claim to be better educated, but they do not always get the basics.
13/12/2020 13:42:03 0 2
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Must talk to eton about their produce ... and part in 'democracy'.
13/12/2020 15:26:07 0 1
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I like Eton mess (:
13/12/2020 16:46:24 1 0
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EU won't last that long, they will have tried for a new Holy Roman Empire or US of E and the best they can hope for then is a split into North and South, the worst? A financial collapse resulting in the withdrawal of either Germany or one or more Southern States. You can't have a single currency and expect to maintain 19 different financial strategies for ever.
13/12/2020 17:06:37 0 1
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Yes, there have been two parts to this eton MESS. The referendum will be a walk over Cameron. Then Liar Boris
13/12/2020 17:30:59 0 0
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Would be funny, except thanks to Brexit there's unlikely to be a UK by 2030, let alone 2100.
13/12/2020 17:52:06 0 1
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I think he overcooked it and it’s already in the bin.
13/12/2020 17:57:04 0 0
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I believe he thinks he has put the deal in the oven. Trouble is - he hasn't defrosted it or even switched the oven on. Food poisoning all round I fear.

I hope Boris can get a vaccine developed to treat the poisoning.
13/12/2020 23:45:34 0 0
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Does that mean no Xmas Pudding?
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jo
13/12/2020 12:35:10 580 86
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And yet again on it goes. What a waste of time and our money.
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13/12/2020 12:37:38 917 268
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The whole Brexit project has been an enormous waste of time and our money, and will continue to be so for decades to come.
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13/12/2020 12:52:52 18 56
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And the alternative? Just let Germany and France laying down the law, taking our money and sending us their migrants?
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13/12/2020 12:53:22 17 46
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Only in your myopic, blinkered little europhile world. In the real world it takes but 5 minutes to see that the EU is economically mediocre compared with many other economically similar countries around the world. Why is that given all the wonderful benefits you lot claim it provides ? Are you always so easily taken in by political spin and carrots dangled to keep you loyal to the cause ?
13/12/2020 13:45:27 0 5
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If you fell so negative about Brexit, move to an EU country. Things are looking good in Ireland, are't they?
13/12/2020 14:12:42 0 4
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No it hasn't been an enormous waste of time and our money, at least 'not yet'. If we 'cave' and agree a deal leaving us "forever penalized by EU for not implementing their rules" it will be but if it allows us to go our separate ways without such dominance then it won't be.
Can you imagine that, a 'club' that wants to control you even after you leave? Just like a street gang!
13/12/2020 14:11:44 0 3
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Oh please !
13/12/2020 14:29:29 0 5
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The entire EU has been a waste of our time and a massive waste of our money!
13/12/2020 15:03:54 0 4
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The whole EU project, once it got beyond a common market, is destined to be a disaster. Never ever trust a politician.
13/12/2020 15:21:55 0 4
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Your right, lets all drop our trousers and take it, to hell with sovereignty. Just get on our kness and swallow all the EU feeds us.

Not.
13/12/2020 15:49:10 1 1
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Hear Hear Boris never really wanted a deal
13/12/2020 16:15:55 0 2
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As will the European bUnion socialist project
13/12/2020 16:39:20 0 2
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We left 10 months ago, the only waste of time is the EU trying to punish us, and most rejoiners clearly.
13/12/2020 17:27:15 0 0
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Only if we allow it. Next year, when the stupidity of what we're doing is plain for even the most ardent Brexit supporter to see, we need to talk about re-joining.
13/12/2020 17:50:04 0 0
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The UK Govt have already signed away with Japan deal our citizens (you and I) data protection rights that we had when when we were members of the EU.

What else are they going to screw up in other ill considered trade deals with other countries. Truss and co are amature negotiators who need to be held to account.
13/12/2020 18:37:17 0 0
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Yes. We ideally need to rejoin the EU very soon to stop the economic and social rot that is about to set in with a hard Brexit!
14/12/2020 00:23:30 0 1
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Whole EU project has been an enormous waste of time and our money. Thank God I managed to migrate from Pakistan to UK, voted for Brexit and taking u out of this misery EU thing.
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13/12/2020 12:37:38 10 11
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A suggestion...
Fishing.. agree a phased reduction from today's quotas to 50 per cent over a 10 to 15 year period, letting the UK build up its fishing fleet and supply chain.
Single market.... UK to have final say on future EU rules compliance, but if UK does not agree, EU can impose tariffs up to an agreed threshold.
Posturing and preening.. banned!
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13/12/2020 12:43:26 1 2
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I suggest you get in and negotiate that. Its sounds perfect to me, a gradual scale back approach over 5-10 years gets my vote. Slowly untie all the bonds and shackles.
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13/12/2020 12:45:01 1 1
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10 to 15 years, you must joking.
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13/12/2020 12:37:42 67 12
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It would be shameful if a deal is lost at this stage just because they can't agree on who can and can't fish and a mechanism for standards that satisfies both sides.
13/12/2020 13:11:04 47 6
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As an EU citizen, I concur. Any agreed mechanism would need to be absolutely watertight and enforceable though, as there’s a huge issue of mutual trust at this stage.
13/12/2020 17:26:54 1 0
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'satisfies both side' three such simple words, and which will not happen, France will ensure that, even if Germany is happy.
13/12/2020 18:00:23 0 0
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I’ve got the solution. We’ll share the fishing quota 50:50 and review it in 5 years time. We’ll have a governance panel for the level playing field with 3 judges from the ECJ and 3 from the U.K. Supreme Court. If a decision is spilt 50:50 it goes to a WTO judge for adjudication. Why don’t these politicians grow up!
13/12/2020 20:53:00 0 0
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what is the wto there for?
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jo
13/12/2020 12:35:10 580 86
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And yet again on it goes. What a waste of time and our money.
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13/12/2020 12:37:43 13 81
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Go on Boris, the UK’s stance is and always been fair, morally appropriate and justified.
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13/12/2020 12:49:54 31 11
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"Go on Boris, the UK’s stance is and always been fair, morally appropriate and justified"

Then we walk away with no trade deal with our largest and nearest trade partner, and face the consequences of the terms we've set.
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13/12/2020 12:51:23 41 10
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We all know Johnson has no morals, all you have to do is look at his personal life, his career in media and as Mayor of London let alone as an MP who stabbed May in the back to become the PM.
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13/12/2020 12:54:04 29 4
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Thats twice you have cracked this joke, beginning to think you aren't joking.

How many things do you excuse in your head when having absolutely no understanding of what's happening?

The Daily Mail tells me the EU are using big boy bully tactics, against a UK that's has only ever acted in fairness throughout its entire history, therefore it must be true. Sound about right?
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Soo
13/12/2020 12:58:50 22 3
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I can't help but wonder, what and how much of it, one would have to drink to arrive at this conclusion?
13/12/2020 13:22:01 6 2
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Cut and paste comments makes me think Rational is a bot.
13/12/2020 13:34:06 4 1
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No. Its been idiotic, naive and irrational.
ERG hard Brexit types in meltdown, quite amusing imagining their little pink faces all angry and flustered ???? Removed
Moron Removed
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13/12/2020 12:48:18 2 1
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They would probably vanish into their off-shore paradises.
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rne
13/12/2020 12:51:14 1 1
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I can't imagine any difference. They've always looked that way to me.
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13/12/2020 12:51:22 0 1
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What like your faces have been pulled for the last 4 years ha ha? My mother used to say "keep pulling that face and it might stay that way" ????????
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13/12/2020 12:38:00 16 20
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So the high and might EU are panicking. Well done Boris. (don't forget to vote down...)
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13/12/2020 12:40:18 3 3
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Didn't forget..
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13/12/2020 12:45:42 0 1
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And back on planet Earth...
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13/12/2020 12:46:58 0 1
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I guess that it's Boris who's panicking. He's afraid of losing support from the bulk of Conservatives, except the arch right-wing (who don't care for welfare). Business (which creates jobs) , the health and social welfare sector (who provide free services to poorer people), farmers, express concern. BJ would have much more than half the country against him if we deliberately left without a deal.
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13/12/2020 13:03:20 0 2
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EU panicking? Unless I'm very much mistaken, isn't it the UK Government who keep threatening to walk away and then U-turning everytime? But what ever you need to tell yourself as a brexiteer to try to save face!
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13/12/2020 12:38:01 117 50
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Just extend the transition period. Even if only for 6 months until we've broken the back of the pandemic.

Surely this is the only logical outcome.
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13/12/2020 12:43:34 16 30
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Putting a stake in the ground focuses the mind.
13/12/2020 13:37:01 2 5
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Are you out of your mind? Extend for another 6 months, then another, then another it would never stop as the EU would know they had got you in their clutches, forever. Do you seriously believe we will ever break the back of the ‘Pandemic’, what pandemic.
13/12/2020 14:19:55 5 3
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And from January 1st, our contribution the the EU budget increases four-fold with us having no say in it. No thank you.
13/12/2020 16:16:53 1 3
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Kick the can down the road. You wouldn't be in the Civil Service would you Matt?
13/12/2020 17:25:52 0 4
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The pandemic was over 6 months ago, the hysteria will continue for years.
13/12/2020 17:56:44 1 0
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That sounds far too sensible for BoJo. He could have done that in June but decided not to.
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13/12/2020 12:38:02 71 10
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This is not a Willy waving contest. Get on with it !!!
Bet Merkels got the biggest one! Removed
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13/12/2020 12:40:18 10 1
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Ursula von der Leyen would be at a distinct disadvantage if it were.
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13/12/2020 12:46:24 7 0
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So that's why Boris nods his head so much
13/12/2020 14:21:01 0 0
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steady Leo
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13/12/2020 12:38:07 11 12
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Sold down the Swaney by Johnson.
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13/12/2020 12:55:52 3 2
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On the negotiation team are you? Or an exact knowledge of what is being discussed?
Or having you been reading the Guardian again?
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13/12/2020 12:38:07 27 11
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This is the genuine end-game. A deal will be struck. It suits everybody, well except for the Scottish National Party.
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ajl
13/12/2020 12:40:53 14 5
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No, it’s good for them.

More support, Mr Johnson and his ERG masters, the politicians who just keep giving to the SNP
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13/12/2020 12:41:18 1 2
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I agree, a deal will come, then everybody will still moan about it. People love to criticise but offer nothing else.
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13/12/2020 12:38:10 15 10
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Sensible to keep talks going BUT it must end on 31 Dec regardless of outcome.
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13/12/2020 12:47:23 1 3
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Boris keeps blinking. He should just walk away, and stop being such a blithering, bumbling, embarrassment. Give us the happy new year we deserve.
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13/12/2020 12:38:12 6 5
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I'm so looking forward to another original and informative debate on brexit.
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13/12/2020 12:43:06 2 0
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Groundhog Day
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13/12/2020 12:38:19 0 2
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The extra mile! I hear that von der leyen and johnson will walk five hundred miles at the rate there going, and still not get there.Perhaps if they actually spoke to each other instead of walking they would get some where!
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13/12/2020 12:35:55 297 54
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Why don't the EU say enough's enough, no deal?
Might they really want one?
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13/12/2020 12:38:23 445 408
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Of course they want one but they also want to hurt the UK as much as possible for daring to upset their applecart
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13/12/2020 12:46:08 38 19
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No, they want recognition that it takes two sides to make a deal. It's the UK that is leaving, and the UK does a higher % of its trade with the EU, than the EU does with the UK. The onus is on the UK.
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13/12/2020 12:48:15 44 21
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They don't they just do not want the Eu to be harmed by the UK's stupidity.

The truth is there is not a country in the world apart from Russia who thinks Brexit is a good thing to do. No one.
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13/12/2020 12:50:33 32 11
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If all the EU wanted was to hurt the UK they would already said "no deal", and leave us to deal with tariffs on half of our exports (fish included).
13/12/2020 13:17:41 6 6
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The EU have their laws which will not be changed to suit countries that are not members.
13/12/2020 13:20:30 8 8
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"Brexit: Hurting the UK as much as possible" would be an apt brexit slogan.
You seem to imagine that the EU's negotiating stance is all about you. Well it isn't. Why would the EU give a damn about hurting a non-EU member state? Their responsibility is to their 27 members only, not the UK. Brexit voters don't seem to get that when they use emotive words like "punish" and "sovereignty ".
13/12/2020 13:24:45 4 3
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Why waste a bullet, trying to shoot a man as he jumps off a bridge?
13/12/2020 13:41:06 1 5
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Nonsense. They don't need to we are damaging ourselves more than enough.
13/12/2020 13:47:23 3 5
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Stop playing the martyred victim. This was a decision the UK took on its own initiative. The EU are skilled negotiators. As with any negotiation you always leave the door open for any possibility. If they really were to "hurt" the UK, they would have shut the door after January 31st and left no room for any sort of negotiation whatsoever.
13/12/2020 14:14:04 2 4
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This paranoia about the EU is the cancer that lead so many to vote leave. It was 27-1 when we were in, it was us and them, little Englanders who could never say us and are now paranoid that the EU wants to damage us not strike a deal. It is not in their interest to hurt our economy, only nationalists think that way.
13/12/2020 14:57:44 1 5
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The E.U. don't need to hurt us...we are doing a good job ourselves.
13/12/2020 15:08:53 1 2
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With your intelligence and knowledge of economics you must be a captain of British industry.
13/12/2020 15:13:13 0 1
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Yawn
13/12/2020 15:15:41 1 3
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You can’t blame the EU to protect its joint sovereignty. There are good reasons for unity in Europe and why 42 other countries outside the EU have trade deals with them. Around 29% of industrial revenue is generated by foreign investors, a great deal of that from EU countries and it should be protected.
13/12/2020 15:20:08 1 1
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The EU has clear rules and regulations, they don't need to change them to suit the UK, which is the party leaving the club. You can't stop paying your Sky subscription and retain access to all the programmes.
13/12/2020 15:46:23 3 2
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In other words they want the worst case scenario for the UK to protect the super-state project. Politicians on all sides are egotistical monsters yet the majority still cower in front of them.
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13/12/2020 12:38:27 491 67
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"We negotiate a new UK-EU deal based on free trade and friendly cooperation"

A direct quote from the Leave manifesto.

Anything else and Brexit will not have been delivered.
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13/12/2020 12:45:12 252 356
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Brexit has already been delivered 1 Jan 2020. FTA is totally different discussion and argument.
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13/12/2020 12:52:13 6 6
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Well it will be just not the one you wanted (which I guess was no Brexit at all).
13/12/2020 13:57:29 6 24
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So you think the EU negotiated in a spirit of 'friendly cooperation'?
13/12/2020 15:11:34 6 22
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It has been delivered. We left 31st Jan 2020. Only a few of you and the EU don't accept that fact.
13/12/2020 15:40:29 1 1
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It's propaganda. It was never meant to be delivered in that way.
13/12/2020 16:49:27 3 7
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It takes 28 to reach a deal, and 27 of them can't agree.
13/12/2020 20:51:45 0 1
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Had the politicians in this country backed the will of the British people from the outset and presented a united front to the EU these negotiations would have been done and dusted many moths ago. The real failures in this are the opposition MPs and some in the Conservative party who have undermined the British effort in this whole episode.
13/12/2020 21:01:32 0 0
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Quite right but I find the EU position not friendly.
After all Tusk offered a Canada+++ deal, only for us to find it is the Canada deal, +some extras but ++ loads of EU demands.
The EU position is tricky, they give a deal, seem weak and tempt others to renegotiate. Or give a hard exit and if the impact is tolerable others will not fear leaving.
13/12/2020 21:38:40 0 0
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That is in the political statement that accompanied the WA agreed by EU and UK that is why it was in the manifesto.
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13/12/2020 12:38:28 10 6
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The Tories are holding up s deal for very weak reasons
Fishing is very small part of the deal
The Tories give less state aid than most EU Govs
Do why do they want these new powers
Media never ask
Must assume it's s race to the bottom.
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13/12/2020 12:40:53 0 0
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BLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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13/12/2020 12:43:37 0 0
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Actually, "Fishing" is a large part of acceptance of any deal (not necessarily value), as France, Netherlands & Spain etc ALL have individual veto.
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13/12/2020 12:48:44 0 0
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Your not bothered about fishermen’s jobs then. Shane on you
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13/12/2020 12:38:28 3 5
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So! No Deal on Jan 1st 2021 . No EU fishing AT ALL in Uk waters from that date, but we carry on negotiating. Should be a smooth rise then!
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13/12/2020 12:38:30 6 4
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Boring.
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13/12/2020 12:38:36 100 25
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Boris Johnson is all about over promise and then under deliver. How will he square this one. It will of course be someone else's fault. A government who are in power but wont govern.
13/12/2020 21:37:14 0 0
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rubbish, so it must be labs faul
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13/12/2020 12:36:16 1506 574
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Well Mr Johnson. Decision time is fast approaching.

No Deal and destroy the country
or
Deal and destroy your political career.

Let's see where your loyalties truly lie.
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13/12/2020 12:38:41 817 1337
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Go on Boris, the UK’s stance is and always been fair, morally appropriate and justified.
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13/12/2020 12:44:25 102 27
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You don't understand anything about the issues, as illustrated by that generalised meaningless post.
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13/12/2020 12:46:53 96 13
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LOL That's quite funny.

Or quite unbelievably scary if it wasn't sarcastic
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13/12/2020 12:47:35 76 10
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I think you need to look up what "rational" actually means !
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Zig
13/12/2020 12:49:43 21 3
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You forgot 'integrity'. Add it to the collection of misused words.
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13/12/2020 12:51:44 36 5
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Total nonsense, and inability to understand Britain's place in the modern world.
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13/12/2020 12:54:01 11 56
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Boris is fighting for the best deal for our great country but unfortunately there are still sad remainers who will go against and whinge against what is right.
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13/12/2020 13:00:44 20 2
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Please call him by his proper name, proven serial liar Boris Johnson
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13/12/2020 12:59:21 13 2
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Hahaha haha
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13/12/2020 13:05:43 14 1
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Only people with head in sand could say such things
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13/12/2020 13:08:02 13 1
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Nothing fair or morally appropriate about the people in power in this country
993
13/12/2020 13:08:24 10 2
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How sad and deluded.
13/12/2020 13:10:17 5 2
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...and self-destructive....
13/12/2020 13:17:05 2 1
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Funny.
13/12/2020 13:17:44 13 1
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It really isnt.

Its a miracle the EU is offering the same terms as every other member, they could offer worse.

Its the Government who are trying to Blackmail the EU into giving them a better deal.

How would you react if Johnson gave in to blackmail?

But you dont have the braincells to consider the logic, you just want a slogan to shout.

pathetic!
"Easiest deal in history"
"We knew what we were going for"
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13/12/2020 12:36:19 11 9
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Johnson will walk 500 miles and Johnson will walk 500 miles more ....

He must be knackered.

??
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13/12/2020 12:38:47 5 3
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No he doesn't. He hides in the back of a van to get back where he started.
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13/12/2020 12:40:33 1 1
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Johnson is a white van fridge man ...

??
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13/12/2020 12:38:48 15 12
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Very embarrassing for you leavers. Boris hesitating because he know no deal would be a disaster for the uk. Otherwise he would have stopped negotiating.
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13/12/2020 12:40:58 2 4
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Why so little faith in your country?
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We love Boris
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13/12/2020 12:47:53 0 0
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He’s actually doing his best for the country. Think of our fishing industry before selling out
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13/12/2020 12:36:32 17 21
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It just goes on and on and on. Just leave already and get on with it. Enough.
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13/12/2020 12:38:49 4 4
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Yeah, life eh? Just goes on and on day after day - why don't you do us all a favour, just get on with it and leave already.
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13/12/2020 12:36:16 1506 574
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Well Mr Johnson. Decision time is fast approaching.

No Deal and destroy the country
or
Deal and destroy your political career.

Let's see where your loyalties truly lie.
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13/12/2020 12:38:57 22 94
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....deal and destroy his career and the country
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13/12/2020 12:47:50 22 12
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Really? Any deal will destroy the country?
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Sam
13/12/2020 12:38:58 6 8
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UK should as they say - "press to test".

Call it a day and walk away (or at least get the train).

Make very specific requirements that need to be met - publicly - before the UK will return to the table.

Time for steel.
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13/12/2020 12:35:55 297 54
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Why don't the EU say enough's enough, no deal?
Might they really want one?
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13/12/2020 12:39:02 34 2
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And if BoJo didn't want one he'd walk away too....
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13/12/2020 12:36:42 19 8
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The “extra” mile, or in the case of French fishing boats, the extra 12 miles
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13/12/2020 12:39:05 4 11
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It's 200 miles.
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13/12/2020 12:46:17 2 1
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Not in the Channel it isnt. You need to stop believing everything you read in the Daily Distress.
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13/12/2020 13:01:17 0 1
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I look out my bedroom window at bolougne about 30 miles away, on your reasoning the French fishermen would trawling the Seine
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13/12/2020 12:35:44 20 8
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Can

Kicked

Down

The

Road

Again
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13/12/2020 12:39:06 4 4
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Well they haven't agreed anything, even if we end up with no deal more negotiations will follow as it's a bad state for everyone
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13/12/2020 12:50:53 2 3
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The real question then becomes, who does it become *really* bad for first...

...and that won't be the EU.
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JJ
13/12/2020 12:39:07 692 198
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Putting it politely, Boris and his pals are nothing short of a disgrace to this country.
Remainers are the disgrace of this country Removed
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13/12/2020 12:46:55 10 45
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We put them there so live with it
Boris is lovely.
13/12/2020 14:01:33 14 50
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Yes , we would have been much better off with terrorist-hugger Corbyn, ably assisted by Marxist McDonnell and mega-brain Abbot.
Stop crying you big girl. Removed
13/12/2020 14:34:19 0 11
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Hang about, let me just pick myself up from the floor where I'm sick with the 'laughing'.
13/12/2020 16:36:26 3 6
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Remainers are a disgrace! Cry babies who don't accept democracy, crying into their vegan soups
13/12/2020 17:45:14 0 0
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You are so immature.
13/12/2020 17:50:29 0 0
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Disagree JJ. Negotiations are like that. Not disgrace - which is a word I often see banded around. The negotiators (both sides) just need to work the problem. It is not as simple as black and white.
13/12/2020 20:09:20 0 0
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Very true.
And what’s more Boris and his pals are exactly what this country voted for and are exactly what this country deserves.
13/12/2020 20:47:03 0 0
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Presumably for doing what the British public instructed?
14/12/2020 15:46:59 0 0
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That's disgrace to ANY country.
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13/12/2020 12:39:07 55 6
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How many deadlines is that now? Absolute joke.
13/12/2020 20:34:16 2 7
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and the joke is?
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13/12/2020 12:39:09 8 4
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Isnt it annoying when the bbc keeps the same comments for a news piece which develops as the day progresses, making the majority of comments irrelevant/outdated?

Like if you agree
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13/12/2020 12:50:15 3 0
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Correct, AND they won't even try to improve this chaotic and unusable version of HYS.
Thank you our European friends for trying to help us not to do irreparable harm to ourselves. I fear it maybe in vain as our part-time leader is as much use as a chocolate tampon. Removed
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13/12/2020 12:46:32 15 53
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Oops. Jealous are we ??
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13/12/2020 13:03:06 6 11
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Friends?! The EU, Macron and Merkel in particular, are behaving like an obsessed ex-boyfriend determined to ruin your life and not allow you to move on with your own by suggesting unreasonable things. Love it so much go live there.
Do your forums over there have British people masquerading as euros? That should help inform you of the integrity of the choices you make.
13/12/2020 21:42:10 0 0
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move to the ukraine.
13/12/2020 21:45:13 0 0
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what is a chocolate tampon? some mind at work here.
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13/12/2020 12:39:11 2 4
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Perplexed here! If there is no deal, why would there be long lorry queues into Dover? If we can’t sell anything to them, at a reasonable price, would that not reduce lorry movement and thus reduce the number of vehicles traveling on the approach roads?
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13/12/2020 12:41:33 1 0
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Large queues due to increased customs requirements - something for which we are incredibly ill prepared
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13/12/2020 12:39:17 1112 327
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How many times has he threatened to walk away now by a certain deadline? Weak, indecisive and a habitual liar.
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13/12/2020 12:48:51 542 804
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You clearly do not understand negotiation tactics do you
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13/12/2020 13:06:24 14 49
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Erm.. so the EU are weak, indecisive and liars too then... good job we're leaving!
13/12/2020 13:14:16 5 15
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It has been on both sides. Boris has stood firm, it took the EU a while to realise that here was a Team that did not react well to their threats.
R1
13/12/2020 13:16:38 3 7
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Habitual liar ? I guess you are referring to yourself and trying to make a joke.
13/12/2020 13:35:37 0 4
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Habitual rubbish.
13/12/2020 14:18:28 0 4
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You are letting your feelings get in the way of logic. Boris is trying his best to get a deal, and if extending the talks, it could quite possibly mean that the EU is seeing sense, and Boris believes there can be a deal. You dont walk away from the table if there is a chance things can go your way. You walk away when all else is lost.

Basic negotiation tactics.
13/12/2020 14:29:39 5 1
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If anyone negotiated like Johnson in my business he would be sacked!!
13/12/2020 15:18:52 0 0
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How can he be weak when the EU ask for more time ?
13/12/2020 15:29:25 0 0
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They're just playing a game of brinkmanship. A cynic (who me?) might be tempted to think that the deal was agreed in 2016 and that everything since has been bluster, showboating and a good excuse to demonstrate what a hard job politicians really have while at the same time having a blow out dinner.
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13/12/2020 12:39:22 7 11
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Labour call for a deal to be reached. Does this mean at any cost, sounds like they would surrender our nation to the till of Germany France.
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Zig
13/12/2020 12:41:36 2 0
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Its a right-wing Conservative government that is in power, not Labour. Did you forget?
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13/12/2020 12:42:16 1 0
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Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.
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13/12/2020 12:39:24 9 12
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EU blowing hot and cold, playing cat & string

UK position is stronger than all the remainers & EU posters say

EU is a large but fragmented market & only half have any more. UK is a concentrated, wealthy market

If the EU isolate the UK, Ireland will have to leave the EU

Time for the UK to get tough, so far the UK has been too accommodating starting with disastrous May's muddled objectives
138
13/12/2020 12:41:50 5 1
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May didn't negotiate a trade deal. This is all on Boris
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13/12/2020 12:43:17 1 0
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What? I disagree.
13/12/2020 13:18:12 0 0
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There s a deal on offer: no tariffs unless the other party adversely changes regulations or state aid. The question is why boris hasnt accepted it. Fishing isnt really an excuse because the french will blockade calais when they are denied access to uk waters regardless!
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13/12/2020 12:39:27 1 0
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Just get on with it already.

Lock these muppets in a room and don't let them out until they agree on something. slide pizza under the door if needed.
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13/12/2020 12:35:49 1486 274
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How could anyone who saw him on the Marr show this morning, pathetically trying to gaslight the entire country into thinking his previous promises weren't actually what he said at the time, think anything other than this guy hasn't been on the right side of an argument since birth.
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13/12/2020 12:39:27 55 273
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Labour minion by any chance?????????
Brussels troll farm
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ajl
13/12/2020 13:03:53 34 4
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No a Realist!

Brexiters Unicorn breeder by any chance?
13/12/2020 13:47:15 14 2
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You don't need to be a Labour minion to see through this bunch of shabby liars.
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13/12/2020 12:39:27 621 153
bbc
"Britain has set a deadline of Oct. 15 to strike a free-trade deal with the European Union, and if none is agreed both sides should “accept that and move on,” UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson will say on Monday."
Reuters, September 15, 2020.

In the new year, the dictionaries will have to update their definition of 'clown' and 'liar', by adding the name of this guy.
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13/12/2020 12:45:30 706 221
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The thing I find most depressing is we all knew this about Boris a year ago, probably a decade ago in fact, yet it seems only now - some 65,000 deaths later - that people are waking up to the idea that maybe he’s not qualified to be PM
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13/12/2020 12:59:31 11 33
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It's called tactics, as I'm sure you know very well.
13/12/2020 13:51:04 29 39
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I would suggest adding the word 'Remainer' to the Oxford English Dictionary, with the meaning 'a person who cannot accept the result of a vote and continually predicts disaster".
13/12/2020 13:53:37 5 0
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Which lifetime or generation of Brexit or Parliament are we in now - maybe Johnson will explain it to Scotland’s voters!
13/12/2020 13:58:17 4 3
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Should have stuck to the October 15th deadline. Informal negotiations could have continued & if EU genuinely wanted a "deal", one would have been found.
As it is now , EU have won unless UK walk away when we're ready & set for WTO.

I've negotiated deals on many occasions, gone as far as I could and walked away. Sometimes the phone rings soon after: "About your offer, I've had a rethink....".
13/12/2020 15:49:26 0 1
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Seems the EU did not accept it and move on, as they wanted to see if they can still get to our fishing territory somehow, and wanted to tie our hands behind our back regarding support for our own industries.
13/12/2020 17:02:42 0 0
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It's all ready in the dictionary under farage.
13/12/2020 17:33:02 0 0
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I find your comments offensive; it was obvious the EU would say 'Non!' right up to the wire. You would have walked away months ago? That is not negotation.
13/12/2020 17:33:27 0 0
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I find your comments offensive; it was obvious the EU would say 'Non!' right up to the wire. You would have walked away months ago? That is not negotiation.
13/12/2020 17:44:23 0 1
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Hardly. This has been going on for 4 years, and the PM has only been in charge for the past year. Johnson is just the man we've put in charge to try and speed up the end game.

I don't get all of this Boris bashing. I mean, he's hardly done anything worse than any other PM The UK has had. Could it be that, after all, it's all just a BBC thing? Is the director his ex or something?
13/12/2020 17:44:44 0 0
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You remind me of the thick one on the back row.
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13/12/2020 12:39:28 5 9
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Dead horses and whips come to mind. The EU has yet to recognize that we voted to leave the EU. Leave. We did not vote to become a country member who abides by all the club rules whilst we are outside. We voted to leave. We voted to live by our own rules, UK rules. Not EU rules. For goodness just leave. There are plenty of other clubs to join if we want.
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13/12/2020 12:50:32 0 1
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Yes. Pity the club in which we were a major player was conveniently next door. We left because we convinced them to put in rules to create a single market that we don't like anymore. No clubs to join to the North, South or East.

Luckily there is one just 5 and half thousand km to the West (the one whose films portray baddies with a British accent).

Sunlit uplands await!
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13/12/2020 13:01:02 0 0
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Agreed - EU has rules I could live without, but all trade deals come with convergence of rules - you cant be 100% sovereign in a trade deal. look at America and China. There has to be a compromise somewhere..
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13/12/2020 12:39:28 7 3
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Good now get a deal because you were elected on the mandate that you would get one. To railroad through a no deal to placate the bigoted ideologues within your party that the country doesn’t want is undemocratic
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13/12/2020 12:39:33 5 1
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When a deal is so easy, you turn up armed to the teeth at the last minute just in case words fail. Sure, extend it. I hope you are enjoying yourselves. We're beyond taking it seriously now, unless you are bitterly entrenched as a leaver or remainer.

Yours, the vast majority.
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Sam
13/12/2020 12:36:52 18 9
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This will go on and on. Until the shoddy compromise at the eleventh hour.
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13/12/2020 12:39:34 17 2
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Don’t be ridiculous. 11th hour was ages ago ??
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13/12/2020 12:39:34 4 0
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So the PM and EU President are kicking the can further down the road. That only makes sense if there is some movement which one hopes there is. What should not happen is that on the 31.12.2020 it is announced there is no deal. The more warning that business on both sides gets of the situation the better.
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13/12/2020 12:45:31 2 0
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How true. If you want to have a full-fat No-deal Brexit you need at least two years to disentangle yourselves from the EU - NOT two weeks!
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13/12/2020 12:35:55 297 54
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Why don't the EU say enough's enough, no deal?
Might they really want one?
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13/12/2020 12:39:40 46 14
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well of course they do. They are not as stupid as Johnson and his cabinet of fools. Why would any sane person not want a deal?
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13/12/2020 12:39:45 2 5
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Now lets wait for the 31/12/20 deadline be extended as well............... lets get Brexit done!!!!.......................
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13/12/2020 12:38:02 71 10
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This is not a Willy waving contest. Get on with it !!!
Bet Merkels got the biggest one! Removed
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13/12/2020 12:46:11 15 1
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"Bet Merkels got the biggest one!"

Compared to Boris, or any of the UK cabinet...

...she most definitely has bigger balls, and intelligence.
13/12/2020 15:30:29 0 0
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Probably would like one !
13/12/2020 17:19:13 1 3
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Afraid not, she is a Zombie, she is only German Chancellor because they haven't had a vote on that post since she got hammered in the German elections, in 3 or so months they will, and then the German's will wave bye bye to her, and Macron may have joined her on the political scrapheap too by then.
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13/12/2020 12:39:46 8 3
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So they have agreed to disagree for even longer

Are the BBC on commission for all the additional desperately depressing HYS headlines they will now be able to churn out over the "festive period" as Germany goes into a full lock down for Christmas including closing schools from Wednesday
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13/12/2020 12:53:05 1 1
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Go read the Telegraph or Times. They are much more upbeat - but then they would, wouldn't they?
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13/12/2020 12:39:50 14 5
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Queue all the normal criticism. There will be a deal sorted at last moment, both sides will climb down somewhat and people will criticise on both sides, but all anybody can do is critcise, nobody offers any answers. Compromise is the only way forward, and that is what we will get in the end.
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13/12/2020 12:48:15 2 3
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Really? I am not sure what you know what everybody else doesn't to be so confident. It feels like we have shot ourselves in the leg and there is existential pain coming for people on the bread line, but I hope you are right. For everyones sake.
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13/12/2020 12:50:18 0 0
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Spoons await you
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Gio
13/12/2020 12:52:49 1 1
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Brexiteers promised only good things would happen, it's those idiots that need to find the answers, they own the mess, the problem is it's a mess they have no idea how to clean up.
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13/12/2020 12:39:51 5 0
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its a definite maybe
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13/12/2020 12:39:52 4 5
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Wait for it, "This would not have happened without 'Gumboot Diplomacy' when we put the size 13's in it!
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13/12/2020 12:40:39 2 0
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??
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bbc
Smartest decision hes made since...ever, but no doubt he will still find a way to fcuk the country over whatever happens. Removed
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13/12/2020 12:35:55 297 54
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Why don't the EU say enough's enough, no deal?
Might they really want one?
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13/12/2020 12:40:12 27 11
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Then the UK would try to blame them for talks breaking down. Boris has tried to provoke them akr3ady6
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13/12/2020 12:40:14 7 4
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Family sitting around the table on Christmas day. Two people pull a cracker. The message inside simply reads "Brexit" and everyone collapses in fits of laughter. Because that's all Brexit is now, a sad joke.
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13/12/2020 12:43:07 2 0
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Joking time is over come next year.
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13/12/2020 12:38:02 71 10
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This is not a Willy waving contest. Get on with it !!!
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13/12/2020 12:40:18 10 1
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Ursula von der Leyen would be at a distinct disadvantage if it were.
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13/12/2020 12:47:17 10 0
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Even when the UK is playing the role of eunuch? :D
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13/12/2020 12:38:00 16 20
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So the high and might EU are panicking. Well done Boris. (don't forget to vote down...)
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13/12/2020 12:40:18 3 3
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Didn't forget..
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13/12/2020 12:40:19 5 0
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No surprise there then !!
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13/12/2020 12:40:22 28 7
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This is not an extension to negotiations. This is an extension to them pretending to negotiate.

The EU know the French will veto any deal and Boris is happy with No Deal as long as he can blame it on the EU.... who can blame it on the UK and the French.
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13/12/2020 12:44:37 12 6
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There is a deal which means either party can introduce tariffs if the other changes regulstiobs or state aid - which is a normal provision. A fishing agreement needs to ve deferred otherwise frenxh fishermen will blockade dover soon!
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13/12/2020 12:45:07 0 0
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Too pessimistic by far. Don’t speculate as no one has experience to do this
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13/12/2020 12:40:24 177 36
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The Government really needs to listen to the public. Get out of the Westminster bubble and talk to people whose livelihoods and futures are at risk.
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13/12/2020 12:53:35 83 59
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and what are the public saying, do you actually know what they are saying or do you just deal in cliches ?
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13/12/2020 12:44:07 9 18
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How on earth did we survive before entering the common market. The rules that applied then will apply now. Don’t remember tariffs and travel restrictions though and I worked between Germany and uk. My advice from experience. Wait and it will not be so bad. No business will apply tariffs as they make their product too expensive
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13/12/2020 13:05:21 7 7
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Yes that means seeing Brexit to the end. It's only democracy when it's the result you want right?
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13/12/2020 13:07:00 8 10
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This whole process started with listening to the public. That was the whole public though not just the whining me, me, me brigade.
13/12/2020 17:15:58 1 3
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The German leaders wouldn't speak to him. ;-)
13/12/2020 17:16:28 3 1
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Old etonians are incapable of doing that.
13/12/2020 17:55:08 1 1
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They do and they don't take any notice of comments sections. They listen to votes.
bob
13/12/2020 18:54:14 2 1
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They did a year ago, and the public gave Labour the biggest kicking in nearly one hundred years, and Boris a majority of 80!!!
13/12/2020 20:46:46 0 1
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Yes. They are saying no deal, no problem.
13/12/2020 20:55:29 1 1
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The Government did listen to the British public - remember the vote in 2016?
13/12/2020 21:00:56 0 1
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They have, we voted for them and we are on the way out.
13/12/2020 21:24:56 0 0
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Yep....listen to me & accept then resign Mr Johnson.
13/12/2020 23:46:54 0 0
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Like the 700,000 EU workers whose jobs are at risk, according to a recent EU survey.
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13/12/2020 12:40:27 79 17
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Boris trying to do his best to not get too much blame for the pain that comes with no deal
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13/12/2020 12:40:28 0 0
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Add your comment...if the policymakers on both sides do not want to do a deal for different reasons, what condition do the plans need to be in to keep the ports flowing after 1st January, and how well developed and capable of being implemented are they?-ty.