Covid: Public must think carefully about Christmas risk, NHS bosses warn
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NHS bosses say they are worried about January, after the US saw a spike in cases after Thanksgiving.
It's of course just the standard sheep-like response we've come to expect from these lunatics.
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Is he a doctor ?
Royston, to use the term "mask-fanatic" is a ridiculous insult. It is selfish, foolish and dangerous to not follow the science - wearing masks does absolutely save lives and helps reduce the spread of the virus. I guess you're a fan of Pres. Trump.
Sounds like the usual face mask wearing pious brigade to me. About time they left everyone in peace
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Shock, horror the virus spreads! It will spread, that is what it evolved to do. Even in Germany with a track and trace we are told is faultless, deaths are at UK level, they just don't report it the same way. France, Belgium, Italy, Spain are also at similar levels of cases and deaths. It is NOT careless people's fault. A virus will do this no matter what.
Sensible people wouldn’t be spreading it as much as irresponsible people. That’s obvious.
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“Mask fanatic” - happily “fanatical” about not killing other people.
At time of seeing you are cruising on 45 up votes and 167 down votes. Maybe its time for you to re-evaluate your world view. Wearing a mask is no big deal buddy and yes the popular opinion amongst the general public is that the good ground obtained by lockdowns is being squandered by folk such as you. Deal with it.
Ask for yourselve....... That's were the problems are.... No personal responsibility
Not really rocket science is it? You got any proof or just calling yourself sir to make yourself feel important?
So do you not believe any science at all? Do you believe scientists when they say that Yellowstone super volcano will erupt sometime for example.
"Thank goodness we can celebrate Christmas" but "think very carefully before initiating such contact over the Christmas period." Nicola Sturgeon: "no extension for New Year's Eve as the virus isn't going anywhere". A five day temporary relaxation achieves nothing except a potential third wave, unfortunately.
The 70000 odd extra deaths this year are just bolstering the numbers too are they? Muppet!
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They never have, flu is a different raspatory disease :-
All detail here :-
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports
All detail here :-
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports
Why are there so many excess deaths in 2020 then? Why are there not 0 excess deaths? We have a maths genius here!
" but throughout this pandemic it hasn't been the sensible folks who have spread the virus".
You know this, do you? You got any proof or just spouting mask-fanatic gibberish?
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You know this, do you? You got any proof or just spouting mask-fanatic gibberish?
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I assume the lunatics you refer to are those who don't wear masks and socially distance -- correct?
I think you missed out the T at the beginning of your username.
When will people ever wake up?
COVID-19 doesn't care how bored you are.
Doesn't care if you want to fly abroad.
Doesn't care if you feel lonely.
Doesn't care if it's Christmas.
Doesn't care even if the Chancellor's money printing press finally packs in.
Only by staying in and keeping clear of other people can we combat this contagion. The medics can't do everything all the time.
COVID-19 doesn't care how bored you are.
Doesn't care if you want to fly abroad.
Doesn't care if you feel lonely.
Doesn't care if it's Christmas.
Doesn't care even if the Chancellor's money printing press finally packs in.
Only by staying in and keeping clear of other people can we combat this contagion. The medics can't do everything all the time.
Remember if you die in a road traffic incident and have tested positive for covid 19 then you will be a covid death. How is this not bolstering the numbers?
There are not 70k excess deaths. There will probably be 30k excess deaths from covid, 30k from the NHS shutting down.
For the 1st time in 50 yrs my wife and I will have Xmas on our own. My children will be having Xmas alone with their families.
It is all about common sense and a bit of responsibility.
I think may sensible people will act responsibly over Xmas but throughout this pandemic it hasn't been the sensible folks who have spread the virus
It is all about common sense and a bit of responsibility.
I think may sensible people will act responsibly over Xmas but throughout this pandemic it hasn't been the sensible folks who have spread the virus
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Whilst I accept the logic in the not moving tiers for public health reasons, if London is not moved into Tier 3 this week and Greater Manchester and other areas with big drops in cases remain in Tier 3 then it is a farce. They have already sacrificed hospitality here to covid so why is London immune from this?
That makes no sense as to why they’re increasing now
They’ll maybe swap tiers, we’ll all be locked down again by Feb
London’s hospitality in tier 3 loses 7 days, Manchester’s has been in tier two since July 30th, tier 3 since what feels like forever
No argument
SAGE reports told Gov we needed more in tier 3 in July, Burnham was a scapegoat for saying same
Released now before London’s tier3 shift
They’ll maybe swap tiers, we’ll all be locked down again by Feb
London’s hospitality in tier 3 loses 7 days, Manchester’s has been in tier two since July 30th, tier 3 since what feels like forever
No argument
SAGE reports told Gov we needed more in tier 3 in July, Burnham was a scapegoat for saying same
Released now before London’s tier3 shift
Common sense tells us there will be an increase in cases following a period of more freedom. As people and virus mingle.
The size depends on how rigidly people adhere to best practice or staying within the rules.
Common sense also tells us without an easing of the rules over Christmas, many people would have ignored the rules, citing their common sense to be better than scientific analysis, oh!!
The size depends on how rigidly people adhere to best practice or staying within the rules.
Common sense also tells us without an easing of the rules over Christmas, many people would have ignored the rules, citing their common sense to be better than scientific analysis, oh!!
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I think we all have to ask ourselves the questions....
What can I do to keep myself free of covid?
How do I make sure I do not spread covid?
The sad thing is we all know the answer is not to have a big family gathering at Christmas. So perhaps the real question is...How much do we value the lives of our family members? And in particular the older members.
What can I do to keep myself free of covid?
How do I make sure I do not spread covid?
The sad thing is we all know the answer is not to have a big family gathering at Christmas. So perhaps the real question is...How much do we value the lives of our family members? And in particular the older members.
Who cares anymore? If these bed sore encrusted geriatrics and obese boomers can't handle a glorified cold, their time is up. Cull them off to save society at large.
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For the 1st time in 50 yrs my wife and I will have Xmas on our own. My children will be having Xmas alone with their families.
It is all about common sense and a bit of responsibility.
I think may sensible people will act responsibly over Xmas but throughout this pandemic it hasn't been the sensible folks who have spread the virus
It is all about common sense and a bit of responsibility.
I think may sensible people will act responsibly over Xmas but throughout this pandemic it hasn't been the sensible folks who have spread the virus
" but throughout this pandemic it hasn't been the sensible folks who have spread the virus".
You know this, do you? You got any proof or just spouting mask-fanatic gibberish?
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You know this, do you? You got any proof or just spouting mask-fanatic gibberish?
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The third wave has already started. Over the last week cases are up, hospital admissions are up, patients on ventilators are up. Deaths are flat, but only because that's such a lagging measure that it's still responding to the lockdown. Unless measures are tightened, we will be back at peak levels BEFORE any Christmas loosening.
What the country needs is a universal social media mute button for the conspiracy nut jobs that are bombarding every platform that lets them.
We've read your nonsense and don't care. Now leave us alone.
We've read your nonsense and don't care. Now leave us alone.
There's this little word that's important here and it's "contagious."
Seriously, a year in and you're still this uneducated?
Seriously, a year in and you're still this uneducated?
Because top level response to Covid-19 is unfortunately lethargic, we are doomed to third, certainly forth and probably 5th; waves of infections threatening NHS Hospitals. I'm quite serious about this. We are not going to vaccinate enough people during the coming year to prevent ongoing crisis in hospitals.
By summer, hundreds of thousands of delayed treatments will be complicating and killing
By summer, hundreds of thousands of delayed treatments will be complicating and killing
" but throughout this pandemic it hasn't been the sensible folks who have spread the virus".
You know this, do you? You got any proof or just spouting mask-fanatic gibberish?
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You know this, do you? You got any proof or just spouting mask-fanatic gibberish?
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Xmas should have been cancelled and draconian displeasure inflicted. That would not be popular and possibly unenforcable but the masses might rise up against errant dingbat morons running around infecting us all.
I believe that all known to be or have been infected should now be charged with murder, mitigated to manslaughter if pleaed as guilty within 7 days.
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I believe that all known to be or have been infected should now be charged with murder, mitigated to manslaughter if pleaed as guilty within 7 days.
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What about younger people with health conditions like Cancer or middle aged people with a heart condition or diabetes. Your so called “Facts” are simple wrong- look at the Coronavirus surveillance reports on the .Gov website
And a 4th and a 5th because it’s a bloody virus that won’t go away. When will fools realise this!!!! All the vaccine will do is train your immunity system to recognise the virus and not over react to it, noT eliminate it! The very ill will still possibly die from it like flu as they have a weakened immune system. We sadly can’t stop that but we also can’t stay in forever! All getting silly now
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See the big bump to the right, that's what they call the second wave :-
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases
You're lazy. Here ya go - https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now#
There is aton of research on this and unfortunate divided opinion and changes of opinion. Faucci being exemplar.
Thank you for wearing a mask and the respect for others this shows.
A year from now, it will still be going on. Do you realise this?
There is aton of research on this and unfortunate divided opinion and changes of opinion. Faucci being exemplar.
Thank you for wearing a mask and the respect for others this shows.
A year from now, it will still be going on. Do you realise this?
I wear a mask and do so in complete complicity with the rules.
i do so because I'm told it's socially responsible and for self preservation.
BUT
I have yet to see ANY empirical evidence that it makes a blind bit of difference and as far as i know stats. wave 1 v wave 2 would indicate the same.
Please somebody prove to me that mask wearing is really beneficial or is it about control.
i do so because I'm told it's socially responsible and for self preservation.
BUT
I have yet to see ANY empirical evidence that it makes a blind bit of difference and as far as i know stats. wave 1 v wave 2 would indicate the same.
Please somebody prove to me that mask wearing is really beneficial or is it about control.
If you stay at home this Christmas, it's not worth it.
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3rd wave? It’s seasonal ffs, if you can’t see that you’re an idiot, when was the lull, summer, when we brought you #blm protests and full beaches! 80% of deaths in people aged +75, people die! Can we crack on with life please?
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there is no "Could" about it - it will.
The country is already screwed by the selfish actions of both individuals AND employers.
people with Covid-19 who are ignoring isolation rules and still going out, and employers who force positive Covid Cases back into work with the threat of losing their jobs.
Then add the Contacts who ignore isolation as well, and it's easy to see what is coming in January
The country is already screwed by the selfish actions of both individuals AND employers.
people with Covid-19 who are ignoring isolation rules and still going out, and employers who force positive Covid Cases back into work with the threat of losing their jobs.
Then add the Contacts who ignore isolation as well, and it's easy to see what is coming in January
5 days of mixing = trouble
Spelling correction “tear” is spelt “tier” don’t post if you can’t spell properly. Merry Christmas
Good grief - get brexit done and let us out of our homes
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They should have protected the vulnerable, as they will be the ones going into hospital. Shame on the gov & everyone else for putting them at risk. For what? some tacky presents for a time when we are supposed to think of others. We have become more interested in materialism than we have in people. Yes it won't affect the majority, but that is true for many illnesses. So why are we ignoring them?
Relaxing restrictions COULD trigger a third wave. NOT relaxing restrictions COULD trigger economic armaggedon and massive mental and social breakdown. Why have lockdowns worked in some places and failed in others? No-one knows because there has been real organised investigation and open debate. Until there is and cause and effect determined anything COULD happen
The media were on a win-win with this one, and they knew it, if the government had kept the restrictions tighter over the holidays the headlines would have been “ Tories have cancelled Christmas”. Now, the with obvious conclusion that loosening the restrictions will create more issues in the new year, the media can role out the “experts” criticising the government for not cancelling Christmas.
Indeed. The River Class boats patrol our waters controlling fishing on behalf of the EU, we didn’t suddenly build them to spite France. Boris and Ursula signed an agreement last week that nothing will change for 12 months regarding access to fish. The River Class boats will do the same job, applying the same rules, to the same fishing boats. But the media want to call it gunboat diplomacy.
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I am sorry to say the third wave is already happening. There is always a lag between Gov action and the virus figures reflecting infections. On Dec 2nd England came out of lockdown and now over a week later we can see the trend is on the up again. Its not difficult to predict just look at that States and what has happened after Thanksgiving. Relaxing the rules at Christmas will just make it worse.
I have to disagree. By bowing to their right wing media backers and easing restrictions over Christmas all that is achieved is people believing even more that the restrictions are not really necessary.
To succeed you have to stick to the restrictions. Since lockdown 2 has been lifted the daily case numbers have stopped falling and deaths has stalled and are likely to rise again.
This is failure.
To succeed you have to stick to the restrictions. Since lockdown 2 has been lifted the daily case numbers have stopped falling and deaths has stalled and are likely to rise again.
This is failure.
I am sorry to say the third wave is already happening. There is always a lag between Gov action and the virus figures reflecting infections. On Dec 2nd England came out of lockdown and now over a week later we can see the trend is on the up again. Its not difficult to predict just look at that States and what has happened after Thanksgiving. Relaxing the rules at Christmas will just make it worse.
London will soon move to Tier 3. NHS now at breaking point. High staff sickness rates and disease more contagious than 1st wave. That's the real news.
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I see the BBC are embracing debate again in the most un-biassed way removing my post saying
“I’m extremely vulnerable, I want Christmas with family and friends”
As it doesn't fit their scare mongering agenda
“I’m extremely vulnerable, I want Christmas with family and friends”
As it doesn't fit their scare mongering agenda
When will people wake up, covid19 hasn’t killed 60k people,, at most 10%, the rest unfortunately have died with covid19,, massive massive difference
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Average age of death from covid 83 average age with covid 82 average U.K. lifespan 81 - ONS stats and never reported (1600 sad deaths every day from something)
And just where are you getting your data from? Wake up, this is a global pandemic that has killed many more than the figure quoted. Stop listening to the conspiracy theorists.
If one ignores the media, Covid doesn’t exist.
If you ignore the media - you can’t see or experience it anywhere - apart from mass testing stations in car parks - people wearing masks - smashed economy
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How hard is it to wear a mask? Seriously it's not a challenging choice, a hardship or cutting into your so called personal freedoms (which always makes me laugh considering we have so many rules ) What it is, is ignorance and people with a lack of respect for themselves and more importantly others. And they have helped extend the life of this virus.
Judging by some comments on here
Some people don't have the ability or skills to understand certain things
But feel emboldened enough to come on here in the delusion that they do
So 80,000 plus deaths
Covid spread person to person
Face mask very good at stopping the wearer's spreading virus
Lockdowns work if adhere to
If the NHS becomes overwhelmed death rate will increase MASSIVELY
Some people don't have the ability or skills to understand certain things
But feel emboldened enough to come on here in the delusion that they do
So 80,000 plus deaths
Covid spread person to person
Face mask very good at stopping the wearer's spreading virus
Lockdowns work if adhere to
If the NHS becomes overwhelmed death rate will increase MASSIVELY
People are doing whatever they want in my Tier3 area. Some have travelled out of the area into level2 to go Christmas shopping. Others don't wear masks. On trains I've seen posts in a Facebook group that travellers are not putting masks on. This is just in my location. Multiple it around the country then you can see why infection rates increase.
A third wave is inevitable.January will be the nightmare of nightmares.A lot of people just don't care because they are "alright Jack".
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I think the solution is to put the North in Tier 8 until June whilst all the pubs open in the South and they get the vaccine first. Chortle, chortle
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The con goes on. Its a very nasty flu type thing that most people do not go o hospital and totaly recover.
Majority have NOT died of COVID.
Terminally ill from cancer, dies in hospital, COVID on death certificate.
False figures. How many discharged?
Terminally ill from cancer, dies in hospital, COVID on death certificate.
False figures. How many discharged?
A con? Tell that to the families of 80,000 deaths.Without lockdown it would be far far more than 80k.
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Of course it will trigger a "third wave". The idiot in no.10 has done an excellent job of almost destroying this country, with his no-deal Brexit (voters fell for it all based on lies) and his governments total incompetence in dealing with the virus.
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Dr Sarah Gilbert has just stated on the Marr show that it will take a lot longer to get back to any normality if there is a third wave and she cited the USA after thanksgiving as evidence of increased transmission between people
And the avoidance of a third wave is down to us, the people and their behaviour over Xmas, keep safe, have a great Xmas but be sensible and careful
And the avoidance of a third wave is down to us, the people and their behaviour over Xmas, keep safe, have a great Xmas but be sensible and careful
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It is worth doing research from multiple sources on what is happening with this covid-19 situation.
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What a negative hide behind the curtains lot on here today. We'll all die someday, some of us sooner than others, thats how it is.
In the meantime, life is risk folks, with covid you know them and can very largely avoid them. Walking down the street, going to a well covid-run pub, going shopping isn't walking hand in hand with the Reaper. Show some backbone, show some common sense the lot of you.
In the meantime, life is risk folks, with covid you know them and can very largely avoid them. Walking down the street, going to a well covid-run pub, going shopping isn't walking hand in hand with the Reaper. Show some backbone, show some common sense the lot of you.
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Why on earth do so many people just want to lock themselves away from this? A mortality rate less than 1%. This is now way way over the top and needs to stop now before more people die of diseases and conditions that are not being treated because of this ridiculous obsession with covid. Let alone lives ruined, jobs lost and God knows what. Life is a risk, manage it and forget Gov't nonsense.
Why on earth do so many people just want to lock themselves away from this? A mortality rate less than 1%. This is now way way over the top and needs to stop now before more people die of diseases and conditions that are not being treated because of this ridiculous obsession with covid. Let alone lives ruined, jobs lost and God knows what. Life is a risk, manage it and forget Gov't nonsense.
Out shopping yesterday, I couldn't believe the amount of people not wearing masks inside shops!
Free speech BBC ! The BBC should be unbiased and allow ALL facts to be accessed.
The BBC took down my last comment because I suggested people do their own research and gave a link to a youtube video that looks at the whole Covid-19 situation.
https://www.mp-22.com/episode-1-prologue
The BBC took down my last comment because I suggested people do their own research and gave a link to a youtube video that looks at the whole Covid-19 situation.
https://www.mp-22.com/episode-1-prologue
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"Could..." Almost certainly 'WILL'.
Why throw away the protection given by all the sacrifices of the past year for a few days of fun, when widespread vaccination is just months away?
Why throw away the protection given by all the sacrifices of the past year for a few days of fun, when widespread vaccination is just months away?
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The media were on a win-win with this one, and they knew it, if the government had kept the restrictions tighter over the holidays the headlines would have been “ Tories have cancelled Christmas”. Now, the with obvious conclusion that loosening the restrictions will create more issues in the new year, the media can role out the “experts” criticising the government for not cancelling Christmas.
From what I hear granny has realised the risk and will not be meeting their families
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I have to disagree. By bowing to their right wing media backers and easing restrictions over Christmas all that is achieved is people believing even more that the restrictions are not really necessary.
To succeed you have to stick to the restrictions. Since lockdown 2 has been lifted the daily case numbers have stopped falling and deaths has stalled and are likely to rise again.
This is failure.
To succeed you have to stick to the restrictions. Since lockdown 2 has been lifted the daily case numbers have stopped falling and deaths has stalled and are likely to rise again.
This is failure.
More testing will find more cases. Stop testing = no cases!
Simples!
Simples!
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It will show just what a difficult balancing act there is between relying in the public to be vigilant while allowing the idiots to spread the virus. That is not the Governments fault but the self centred among us, they are unaquivicly the spreaders of this virus.
Meanwhile the Brexit talks with the EU which must end on Sunday, one way or another, are to be extended yet again. It's like two kids playing best of three then the loser saying best of five and so on. Pathetic.
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What has this to do with Covid????????
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I have stuck to the rules for nearly 10 months, and now I need a break. Not seeing my parents has had a catastrophic impact on my mental health, and Christmas is really important to me. My wedding has been cancelled, my graduation has been cancelled, I'm a teacher so have been thrown to the wolves by this government. I will be seeing my parents over Christmas!
My boyfriend has tested positive for Covid. He thought it was just a bad cold. He didn't have any of the NHS 111 screening symptoms so they told him not to come in for testing. I pushed him to ask again. He has a 79 year old, immobile father with weak lungs and dementia. This would kill him. If any of you have even low grade symptoms, keep away from loved ones. Please.
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And life is more than a perpetual party either. Sometimes it has grief, pain, hardship, even RESPONSIBILITY.
You were not asked to give up on life; only to be responsible for a few months and then go back living for another 50 years or whatever.
You were not asked to give up on life; only to be responsible for a few months and then go back living for another 50 years or whatever.
I have to disagree. By bowing to their right wing media backers and easing restrictions over Christmas all that is achieved is people believing even more that the restrictions are not really necessary.
To succeed you have to stick to the restrictions. Since lockdown 2 has been lifted the daily case numbers have stopped falling and deaths has stalled and are likely to rise again.
This is failure.
To succeed you have to stick to the restrictions. Since lockdown 2 has been lifted the daily case numbers have stopped falling and deaths has stalled and are likely to rise again.
This is failure.
The restrictions really are not necessary. Nobody has covid. The daily figures are a result of false positives generated in labs that aren't following biosecurity protocols. That's why when Cambridge University tested 10,000 students they didn't find a single positive case. Similar at Portsmouth and Edge Hill.
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Yes that's why so many are dying from it, because no one has it. Give me a break!
This is wrong young "healthy" people have died from this and countless others suffering with long covid which you dont get from a cold or flu. Vaccinating the elderly will not get things back to normal when the majority of working age population in the country have not been vaccinated, restrictions in workplaces pubs, shops etc will have to remain in place until more is known about long covid
Wrong. Proper flu can cause long term complications such as auto immune disorders such as RA and heart problems. But because the media has never made an issue of it before you haven't heard of it. It is sometimes termed as long term viral fatigue but for scaremongering fear porn reasons they decided to call this one long covid.
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Can't wait for a big Christmas bash, got the whole family round, eating, drinking and being merry. There's a virus with a 99.97% survival rate knocking about but we're not going to be scared into doing what a bunch of SAGE nerds tell us to. Remember folks, if a politician can be bought (and believe me, they all are), how cheap is a scientist? ;) Merry Christmas to all, even those without spines.
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Knew someone with that attitude. Young, seemingly healthy. They died of the virus they scoffed at. I hope you and your family continue safe and have a lovely festive period, but some of us have different health issues / vulnerabilities. It's not about what the government say. It's about balancing in your own mind the risk vs reward, knowing your own family's particular issues, and what feels safe.
What's this?! NHS bosses finally giving a toss about their patients?! Well i never. Merry Christmas one and all!
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Can't wait for a big Christmas bash, got the whole family round, eating, drinking and being merry. There's a virus with a 99.97% survival rate knocking about but we're not going to be scared into doing what a bunch of SAGE nerds tell us to. Remember folks, if a politician can be bought (and believe me, they all are), how cheap is a scientist? ;) Merry Christmas to all, even those without spines.
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More people die in the early hours of boxing day than any other time of year
Xmas kills regardless of covid
It is the day they put you in the box/coffin
What about a break from this genocidal event and have full lockdown&peace for once in several hundred years
Xmas kills more people than cancer, heart attack&stroke due to over indulgence
CANCEL XMAS NOW FOR EVER for the sake of PEACE ON EARTH
Xmas kills regardless of covid
It is the day they put you in the box/coffin
What about a break from this genocidal event and have full lockdown&peace for once in several hundred years
Xmas kills more people than cancer, heart attack&stroke due to over indulgence
CANCEL XMAS NOW FOR EVER for the sake of PEACE ON EARTH
Imagine a virus with a 99% kill rate being just as infectious.
It would be the end of civilisation as this virus has proved people are unable to deal with putting their needs aside and following rules.
Leaders have shown no balls in their half measures, and people moan about mental health like its trendy to have a mental problem.
Get a grip and stop being a society of snowflakes and karens
It would be the end of civilisation as this virus has proved people are unable to deal with putting their needs aside and following rules.
Leaders have shown no balls in their half measures, and people moan about mental health like its trendy to have a mental problem.
Get a grip and stop being a society of snowflakes and karens
Absolutely.
I'm prepared to take my chances.
The bedwetters are free to lock themselves away.
Everybody is happy, right?
Nope. It turns out they're not happy. Not content with cowering away from a 1 in 500 chance of dying at the tender age of 82.3, they want to transpose their paranoia and fear onto the rest of us and lock everybody else up too.
And then kid on they're doing it 'for Granny'
I'm prepared to take my chances.
The bedwetters are free to lock themselves away.
Everybody is happy, right?
Nope. It turns out they're not happy. Not content with cowering away from a 1 in 500 chance of dying at the tender age of 82.3, they want to transpose their paranoia and fear onto the rest of us and lock everybody else up too.
And then kid on they're doing it 'for Granny'
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Actual deaths nowhere near media & government stats :-
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Up to 40% caught IN hospital, mostly very old, unfit, overweight with comorbidities.
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https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Up to 40% caught IN hospital, mostly very old, unfit, overweight with comorbidities.
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Thete are still people unconvinced to wear face coverings as required.
This article should be aired to one snd all https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-07-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-call-immediate-adoption#
Those then confused or remaining reticent can be seen for what they are.
Perhaps the greatest gift this Christmas is to wear a mask indoors at home.
This article should be aired to one snd all https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-07-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-call-immediate-adoption#
Those then confused or remaining reticent can be seen for what they are.
Perhaps the greatest gift this Christmas is to wear a mask indoors at home.
Thete are still people unconvinced to wear face coverings as required.
This article should be aired to one snd all https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-07-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-call-immediate-adoption#
Those then confused or remaining reticent can be seen for what they are.
Perhaps the greatest gift this Christmas is to wear a mask indoors at home.
This article should be aired to one snd all https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-07-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-call-immediate-adoption#
Those then confused or remaining reticent can be seen for what they are.
Perhaps the greatest gift this Christmas is to wear a mask indoors at home.
The NHS has apparently been overwhelmed this time of the year for the past 10 years..........have they found an excuse this year???...........Yep!!
A certain majority will have as normal a Christmas as possible irrespective of the CV19 situation. Expect a rise in new cases and deaths following the Xmas and New Year.
The vaccine is not helping because they think the magic bullet as arrived thus as above the cynical, selfish and arrogant in the country will carry on as if CV19 does not affect them.
Have a Merry Xmas all - keep safe
The vaccine is not helping because they think the magic bullet as arrived thus as above the cynical, selfish and arrogant in the country will carry on as if CV19 does not affect them.
Have a Merry Xmas all - keep safe
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The Govt should force PHE/NHS to publish DAILY how MANY people have been vaccinated for COVID. This would go a long way in the public building confidence that we are moving forward with fighting this thing, and in NHS after the debacle of delayed operations etc. USA say they want to jab 100m people in 100 days. Why can’t UK do all 65m in say 120days, supplies withstanding? No UK target, shame.
My old Granny, God bless her, always said at Christmas “eat drink and be merry, because tomorrow you may die”. Well Granny, that’s what I plan to do. To hell with crazy covid regulations, I intend to enjoy myself and stuff the consequences.
Funny how the England manager,can travel hundreds of miles to watch the Manchester derby yesterday,then sit in a stadium in a Tier 3 area where fans are banned from attending games,then drive hundreds of miles home without any criticism.Yet we have to abide by the rules and only travel for "Essential" reasons ?
Ventilators are fun? For balloons maybe but ....
The government's Dominic Raab said people needed the five-day relaxation of Covid rules on "an emotional level". says a clearly incompetent jumped up Tory minister operating way above his level of intellect , and whilst doing so totally undermines the message being put across by their own medical advisers and scientists .
How much longer will these dunces be tolerated ?
How much longer will these dunces be tolerated ?
I find it really strange how 10 months on we are still not discussing the origins of this Virus, who is responsible and how we take steps to make sure it doesn't happen again. It's like it's all been forgotten about as though it's unimportant. Failing to act on warnings and letting animal cruelty continue will simply see another pandemic which could be a lot worse than this one. It's bizarre.
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Let those who want to stay alone in their houses over Christmas do so. Let the rest of us see who we wish - anyone elderly / vulnerable ask them if they'd like visitors or not. Should be their choice.
Here's an idea Jill - you do what you want and I'll do likewise.
the trouble is no matter what the situation is people will just do what they want that's the mental attitude of them, we have a neighbour who has had someone staying some nights in the week but mostly staying weekend's they don't give a stuff
totally agree these idiots will not take no notice i know of people have never kept tothe rules on has notlived in her own house for 5 months and nobodydone a thing even informed ourt mp not interested
Corona virus. Nature's way of sorting the wheat from the chaff?
Yeah but most of people won't though will they? With <20% fully isolating when asked, and the majority of the population can barely read and write at a basic level (why do you think the Daily Hate had so many pictures?), idiots like that may as well spit down everyone's throats.
I have a mother in her 80’s.
2 brothers and 1 Sister. 3 Children.
7 nephews and nieces who have 3 babies + Partners
I have not seen most of them for a good 9 months.
I will not be easing my restrictions at Christmas and I will be encouraging family and friends to do the same.
I will not be giving the gift of death in 2020!
2 brothers and 1 Sister. 3 Children.
7 nephews and nieces who have 3 babies + Partners
I have not seen most of them for a good 9 months.
I will not be easing my restrictions at Christmas and I will be encouraging family and friends to do the same.
I will not be giving the gift of death in 2020!
2040: Dad, Is it true you got loads of Christmas presents when you were a kid?
Well son, Yes, I got loads, but in 2020, as I knew everything, I ignored common sense and gave a virus to your Grandparents and my Aunts and Uncles. Sadly it killed them all.
Well son, Yes, I got loads, but in 2020, as I knew everything, I ignored common sense and gave a virus to your Grandparents and my Aunts and Uncles. Sadly it killed them all.
How about fucck off?
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I work at a school and haven't washed my hands once since starting ack at the end of August, neither do other staff members there isn't time in the day.. There are 1200 students and there have only been 2 confirmed cases. The whole thing is blown way out of proportion.
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We don't testing and few need a vaccine, it is after all harmless to most of us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj8MCsZKlg&fbclid=IwAR02Nj1pTm45SiiZPtskw9-xkWdyjtnuRrS7XwAwSBStycMCD9qrcTGAfVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj8MCsZKlg&fbclid=IwAR02Nj1pTm45SiiZPtskw9-xkWdyjtnuRrS7XwAwSBStycMCD9qrcTGAfVw
still don't want to catch it though.
Why would you need a vaccine for something that is harmless to most of us ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj8MCsZKlg&fbclid=IwAR02Nj1pTm45SiiZPtskw9-xkWdyjtnuRrS7XwAwSBStycMCD9qrcTGAfVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj8MCsZKlg&fbclid=IwAR02Nj1pTm45SiiZPtskw9-xkWdyjtnuRrS7XwAwSBStycMCD9qrcTGAfVw
Got a really good idea that will please quite few unfortunately....
....let’s all hide for the rest of our lives shall we.
I’m sure the face masking zombie massive will approve. After all, they are now being spotted wearing a face muzzle whilst walking their dogs in clean fresh air on fields now as well as their own cars looking like idiots.
I dread to think what the future holds.
....let’s all hide for the rest of our lives shall we.
I’m sure the face masking zombie massive will approve. After all, they are now being spotted wearing a face muzzle whilst walking their dogs in clean fresh air on fields now as well as their own cars looking like idiots.
I dread to think what the future holds.
It is all about common sense and a bit of responsibility.
I think may sensible people will act responsibly over Xmas but throughout this pandemic it hasn't been the sensible folks who have spread the virus