Brexit: 'Strong possibility' of no trade deal with EU - PM
11/12/2020 | news | politics | 11,024
Boris Johnson says negotiations with the EU will continue, but are "not yet there at all".
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Boris Johnson says there is a "strong possibility" the UK will fail to strike a post-Brexit trade agreement with the EU.
Don't remember this written on the side of a bus ?
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10/12/2020 19:20:32 140 372
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Hard Brexit ,though.
But you remember what was written on the ballot paper?
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10/12/2020 19:23:23 15 51
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That bus left 4 years ago. Keep up!
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10/12/2020 19:27:44 26 20
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Funnily enough, I don't remember anything about a deal written on the side of a bus either. Maybe the sides of buses are not the place to be looking?
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10/12/2020 19:31:03 29 127
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Who cares about a bus.
We voted to leave the EU.
And we are leaving.
So be happy.
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10/12/2020 19:32:34 35 121
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The last few days on the Brussels BC has been HYS clickbait full of comments from Remoaners which are overwhelmingly pro EU and anti UK.

Plenty of the rest of us (the majority) in line with the UK Government (80 seat majority) know that we will be absolutely fine come 1st January, 1st June, any future date....etc. Not only that, we will do everything we can to make it work.

Unpatriotic losers.
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mjp
10/12/2020 19:36:28 46 23
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Boris IS a man if his word and has 100% delivered on his bus slogan!

Have you not noticed the 97 new hospitals that have so far been built? There's 267 more in the pipeline. All with the money we won't be sending to the EU. I'm sure we will each have our own hospital in a few years.
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10/12/2020 19:40:44 28 7
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I think it was written on the side of a three-wheel van - Tory Independent Traders.
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Remoanervirus!
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What makes you think that Tory/Leave voters are of any higher moral stature than those for whom they vote?
10/12/2020 19:51:55 2 4
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Shortsighted. MOVE ON.
10/12/2020 20:31:09 2 3
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You are right, but I can't remember anything on the ballot paper about a deal either.
10/12/2020 20:55:25 4 4
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Don’t remember being told about an all powerful superstate dictatorship when we joined the common market either
10/12/2020 21:15:28 1 3
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Yawn yawn yawn....
10/12/2020 21:17:15 1 2
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Mug
10/12/2020 21:18:34 2 6
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No? The money written on the side of the bus was the amount we handed to the EU. Now we can spend it ourselves. That fact hasn't changed.
10/12/2020 21:25:06 2 2
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Just a load of lies on the side of the bus, thanks to our lying bedstead, would be pm.
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Just what he always wanted methinks!
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Problem is Tyke, this is the man who had two speeches at the ready and therefore it seems he doesn't really care one way or the other.
The man is a self promoting Latin spewing chortling buffoon .
10/12/2020 21:42:49 1 4
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Absolutely. Not sure what remainers expected.
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If we got a trade deal with the EU, and then broke some of its terms, what would the EU do to us?

The answer is: instruct its members to raise tariffs on us.

If we don't get a deal, what would the WTO do if we broke some of its rules?

The answer is: instruct its members to raise tariffs on us.

Yet the Tories paint the EU as trying to subjugate us, whereas the WTO allows complete sovereignty.
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Not to mention that leaving with no deal would mean the imposition of tariffs on many goods, traded with many countries, in and outside the EU, from January 1st, whether we follow the rules or not.
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Absolutely true. Unfortunately you can’t reason with stupid
You have an odd view of the EU, the UK and the world...
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Put tariffs on a country you have a trade surplus with! Is the EU that stupid.
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A deal would mean free trade. WTO means tariffs whether we break rules or not.
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So why the need for the ratchet clause. If we divert and they don’t like it they have their remedy
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There is absolutely nothing stopping Boris from agreeing a deal today. He could then ask the country if they want it. Either a referendum or a General Election. If the country opposes the terms of the EU Trade Deal then the government can formally withdraw from it.

He has NO mandate for a no deal Brexit. He never campaigned for that.
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Good point.
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Correct. This is not about subjugation. It is about a misplaced, deluded sense of British, or more precisely English, superiority.
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10/12/2020 19:47:09 3 9
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That is a very superficial comparison. You must be aware that WTO rules are far less constricting than those proposed by the EU not least because it is a global construct not fighting its own corner. So why pretend there is equivalence?
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This is irrelevant. If we go to WTO, why would we break the rules? What is the point of doing that? If we make a deal with the EU, then that also is a deal, so why would we break the rules? What is the point of doing that? The difference is that the WTO rules are less restrictive.
10/12/2020 20:48:03 2 0
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The real silly thing is that trade deals will get more difficult ahead as developed nations will want more labor and trade fairness rules going forward in the backdrop of China's unfair trade policies more in the limelight. Even the US changed their main trade deal to include more protections.
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10/12/2020 21:13:38 0 2
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WTO is an independent arbiter. The EU is an interested party in a two way negotiation.
10/12/2020 21:27:14 2 1
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no doubt
Honda: Swindon
Toyota: Derbyshire
Nissan: Sunderland
Will be wanting payment to stay (tax deals etc) or they will be off
10/12/2020 21:33:44 1 6
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you (like many) lack the comprehension and understanding of the dark undercurrents of the eu. This country never had the chance to vote for political integration with the eu only a common trade market which was subsequently hijacked by the politics of all parties to hoodwink the common (uk) electorate into sleepwalking into the current eu. A good idea that has spun out of control.
10/12/2020 23:29:31 0 1
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The WTO is run by all the members. It cannot instruct any Country to raise tariffs on another. Look it up.
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11/12/2020 08:19:40 0 1
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There's a difference you don't obviously understand, the EU can make rules that we have to break!! WTO is a set of world trading rules. If we break a WTO rule yes agree, But if we don't there is almost nothing the EU can do except break WTO rules! Ie the EU can't impose a tariff on goods greater than the WTO tariff unless we break a WTO rule. So that's quite a difference to your comment.
11/12/2020 09:03:48 0 0
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WTO-Exit? It's ecologically friendly too, just recycle all the stuff about un-elected foreign bureaucrats and foreign courts overriding UK courts, and there you are. It's not as if anyone will be embarrassed by their previous rhetoric about trading on WTO terms, shame isn't part of their psyche.
11/12/2020 09:26:39 0 0
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Wrong. Do you KNOW anything? Each time you post the answer is clear to see. Stop reading The Express. The are LYING to you.
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Complete sovereignty? LOL We have that already. Oh what's NATO's Article 5? What happens if we ignore that?
11/12/2020 10:38:22 0 0
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It's always amazed me how many Brexiteers have no idea that being in the WTO entails the UK in following WTO rules that are enforced by even more 'unelected bureaucrats'. Rather like the 'unelected bureaucrats' in Whitehall that they appear to be happy with. Never mind, ignorance is bliss - or so they say,
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10/12/2020 19:18:12 29 78
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Boris the first PM in the last 30 years that has a back bone, keep up the good work.
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You meant to say hasn’t, surely.
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He doesn’t have a brain never mind a backbone. He’s a charlatan
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Breaking things apart is easy
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And a head filled with the same material
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What absolute bile.....
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Another example of how propaganda works.
10/12/2020 21:15:38 4 0
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Don’t worry pal all the thumbs down are from the spineless remoaning bellyaching parasites that can’t see that we’ve been shafted far too long by the EU bloodsuckers
11/12/2020 05:36:17 0 0
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Pity about his brain though eh. ?
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10/12/2020 19:18:12 17 6
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If we can’t get a trade deal, can we at least have a security & intelligence sharing deal?
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intelligence sharing on its own would by default completely emit most of his cabinet members.
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At that point, what would we have to steal?
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If there is no deal, Johnson should resign.
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Only if Barnier does also
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What a silly reaction.
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Absolutely correct
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Why?
10/12/2020 19:51:37 34 5
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I have little doubt he will take the money and run, its the Tory way. It will be the people who are left in the merde
10/12/2020 19:58:26 3 13
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Why?
10/12/2020 20:20:56 23 3
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Absolutely. The liar was always going to get caught out. Eventually.
10/12/2020 20:21:50 4 1
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If there is one thing we know for sure none of this gov has the integrity to resign over anything. Seen it many times now.
10/12/2020 20:26:10 6 5
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Why so Starmer can go cap in hand to Brussels to apologise for all the ' trouble' !!! we've caused the beautiful, splendid, successful EU or rather the Fraud riddled, Arrogant Dictatorship that it is in reality
10/12/2020 20:42:55 3 11
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No we all want no deal he should be knighted with Nigel Farage
10/12/2020 21:04:58 2 3
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Yes, and replacing it with Mr, Starmer, yippee.
Kim
10/12/2020 21:09:29 4 1
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In any negotiation you need to be ready to walk away. Don't tell me you have never done that.
10/12/2020 21:15:23 4 3
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That would mean he’s an honourable man, unfortunately not a trait he possesses
10/12/2020 21:57:49 0 1
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It's just bravado by Bozo who will capitulate at the last moment, and then claim it was a great victory for British diplomacy, when it will be no such thing.
He should die in a ditch. I along with many other people would really enjoy helping him fulfil that promise. Removed
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NO VON der Leyden should resign along with all the German appartchiks determined to protect their wealth and priviliges in Berlin, courtesy of the EU
10/12/2020 22:46:25 2 3
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If there is no deal it will be because the negotiating position of one side was either not giving enough or wanting too much.

Boris won't be resigning & I think you know that. Still you like the attention of your click bait so am sure you'll sleep better now.

Now for a sensible & comment, it is important we learn the final stances after negotiations finish if they fail, for an informed opinion.
Stupid suggestion - remaining under the yoke of EU rules would be soooooooooooo much worse than no deal.
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10/12/2020 23:19:29 0 0
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If he said he was disappointed there was no deal - would you believe him? If he said he would resign - would you believe him?
10/12/2020 23:43:46 2 1
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For the blood on his hands over his mishandling of the pandemic alone, he should go.
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Why? He was elected to remove the UK from the EU delevered
11/12/2020 00:54:13 1 1
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If there is no deal, then he has done the job we voted him to do. I assume you voted remain and for another party.
11/12/2020 03:47:32 0 0
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The deal came Jan 31st. WTO rules. the same rules we trade with the USA and China trades with the EU.
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"Oven ready deal"
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yes stick in the meekrowarvee
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Seriously now. This rubbish has to stop. Watch and learn. https://mobile.twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1336660145527459841
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10/12/2020 21:34:57 0 2
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That was the Withdrawal Agreement. Keep up! This is the Trade Deal.
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He lied, if you don't mind that he lied then you need a good shake.
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For some reason, people are not bothered by liars anymore.

It is such a sad state of affairs when people are ambivalent to lies, and only worry about themselves.
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He is a politician. Grow up!
10/12/2020 20:51:49 12 1
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Trust is the only real commodity that exists and without it you're only going one way.
History is littered with examples of breakdown of trust between people and their rulers, never ended well.
You only have to look at breakdown of trust between two people to see where that leads
We all know what bellyaching slugs like you need he does right not to bow to the overpaid EURO leeches we’ve been shafted by them for far too long Removed
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Somebody promises you something in good faith and through no fault of their own cannot deliver so they are a liar. Grow up!
10/12/2020 21:41:52 10 1
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He has never told the truth about the EU in his life. Why should he start now?
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Boris Johnson would not know the truth if it punched him in the face.
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Politicans lie?

Well I never.
10/12/2020 22:25:55 1 5
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Not getting something you expect to get in a negotiation isn’t lying.
10/12/2020 22:41:03 1 1
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MPs should have to follow all legality such as corporate governance, and failure isn’t a weeks holiday it’s immediately struck off and by-election without that individual! Just as a company director of a plc
11/12/2020 03:23:26 1 0
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Where you been for the past 50 years, they all have repeatedly the only difference now is they don't care that we see it.
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what lie was that?
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11/12/2020 08:18:04 0 0
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All he does is lie and he is not even very good at it
11/12/2020 08:49:23 0 1
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Don't know why people get their knickers in a twist as politicians have lied since... well since politicians became a thing I imagine!
11/12/2020 08:52:33 0 1
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Its unimportant.
What is important is that we are leaving the rotten-to-the-core club.
We will soon be an independent, fully sovereign nation.
And I, for one, can hardly wait!!!
Life will be great.
Yes!!!!
Bojo - you promised a fantastic deal.

You are a shameless liar who is indifferent to the damage you are inflicting on ordinary people.

Resign.
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No deal is a fantastic deal.

Great news :)
That's a bit of a silly comment given the general election campaign to "get Brexit done". Maybe you rushed that comment out a bit too quickly. Don't forget quality over upvotes wins the day.
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How Tory politicians can go on TV today and play down the effects of no deal when they are going to be found out within a matter of weeks is beyond me.
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Yes, he may well be a serial liar.
But we are leaving very soon!!
And that is great news!
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It's what the ordinary xenophobic "people" voted for. Suck it up.
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Happy to forge our own path when we are told "you can leave but we still an ability to fine you????"

Calling the PM a liar all the time isn't much of an argument.
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Back to France for you
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Better than selling your country down the drain to those blood sucking leeches we’ve been screwed for for too long
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Stupid cat.
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Toyota this week announced a no deal would be a nail in the coffin for their 3000 UK workforce. This isn’t pre brexit rhetoric - it’s simply post brexit fact. I really feel for these skilled jobs. Incidentally - Both constituencies where they’re based voted to leave. Many more to follow....
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10/12/2020 19:38:04 0 19
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Sorry who is a liar ? Earlier this year the BBC was removing such comments as offensive. Perhaps you should withdraw it.
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10/12/2020 19:38:32 4 15
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nobody promised a fantastic deal, the only promise made was to respect the wish of the people and leave Europe. and Boris has been true to his word.
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A million to one comes hone then?
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Time to buy a lottery ticket? Sigh.
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How did it come to this.

Being led blind into something no majority wanted.
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The UK voted to leave the EU, you and your like are in denial.
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The trouble is, by your methodology , even fewer wanted to remain
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Democracy
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10/12/2020 21:33:11 3 1
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You are wrong! Stop portraying all those that voted leave as hoodwinked.
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oven ready?

hm
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that was the WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT not the TRADE AGREEMENT.
Doh
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Yeah, looks like we're stuffed!
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That was referencing the Withdrawal NOT trade
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You should be oven ready.
10/12/2020 20:14:41 1 0
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Problem is the deal in in a Dutch Oven over that water :-)
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More like burnt offerings
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How to lie while looking someone directly in the face
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The PM is fab.
11/12/2020 03:30:36 1 0
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Very badly, smirking tends to give the game away a tad
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And managing to do it, while actually laughing at them. But then, this is what they "learn" at Eton and Oxford.
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Boris. You're a liar and a failure. Resign.
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three and a half more years
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So did all the EU leaders so they should resign as well.
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Snap GE
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It's so embarrassing to be British at the moment. At least the US got to reverse their mistake with Trump after 4 years.
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“No deal would be a failure of statecraft”
Boris Johnson - Sept 2019
Zzzzzz zzzzzz ZZZzZ zzzzzz bore off Removed
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10/12/2020 19:27:38 32 16
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Hardly Boris's fault - he inherited this debacle - it's "what the people voted for". You all got what you wanted. Enjoy your food price hikes next year.
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If it is No deal that is a great success.
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Be positive.
We are leaving that rotten-to-the-core club.
And that is reason to be cheerful. :)
And you are a waste of space get a life clown Removed
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History will tell - not sitting in the cheap seats.
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It's not fair to just blame Boris for the me; everyone who voted for Brexit shares the responsibility.
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He is the best we have......we see your man has just decided to come on board, what a joke.
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10/12/2020 19:42:00 4 25
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Sorry, are you calling your prime minister a liar ? What a shabby way to refer to him. Perhaps you should withdraw your comment !
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Ditto.
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Where have you been for the last few years,even Mrs Rudd who was minister in his cabinet told all last year and mentioned again in Last Sunday times magazine.
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Don't vote with your heart but with your brain !
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Haha
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10/12/2020 21:05:32 1 1
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Ever noticed the truth changes in time.....nobody can forecast the future. If I say the sky is blue, you can call me a liar today.....
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Idiotic comment. What do you want - a pseudo Nazil EU stranglehold around the UK's throat? A generation gave their lives to fight European tyranny and remoaners disrespect them by bowing to their demands. We are a sovere State not part of a EU republic.
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Funny you say that he won a huge majority and will win again and again. Did anyone on this thread talks about the totally unreasonable demands of the EU?. Its simple we came out of the EU and we can't enjoy all benefits ( they keep saying that) Then why on earth they want the UK fish???? how is that fair when they out the club they don't have the right either!
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You could do better
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Nah, where is the fun?
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I think your stress is clouding sensible thinking

Leave now

No deal
he's also a sartorial mess
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Good. About time.
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Well that's us slipping into the third world then!!! Nice on Tories ,morons.
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Nah , it just means tariffs on IMPORTED CHEDDAR

SERIOUSLY? well that's what the BBC fact check focused on
You pathetic person you wouldn’t know what the 3rd word is I’ll take it you’re another remoaning looser Removed
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Probably the 4th order - China or America 1 & 2 EU 3 the the rest of the world - even 4th in this ranking seems doubtful Canada & Australia with the mineral resources should be up there somewhere & I have not included India.
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More like "Nice one, people of the UK".
Drama queen of the day award goes to Njv ?????? get a grip. Removed
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drama queen! go write aplay luvveee
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Third world?
Have we left NATO as well?
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Quick.....book your flight to the First World EU land of milk and honey. Enjoy your dictatorship - Remoanervirus!
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I’m not saying this is a good solution, but wherever we end up we’ll make something of it. UK is flexible, resourceful and inventive. Forget about these useless politicians (left and right) and have faith in the ingenuity of our people.
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If Comrade Corbyn had been in charge we would not even be seen as a 3rd world country more like a 10th rate one and a satellite of Putin.
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You have no idea, have you visited the so called third world? You need your sense of perspective adjusted.
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Not far off now 80% Service Economy based on house prices pubs, hairdressing and dig walking.

Welcome to Thatcher The Tax Dodger & Phony Tony Tory Blair Utopia
Oh for goodness sake. Get some perspective will you, moron. Removed
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What did Boris say last year about an 'oven ready deal'? He does a good line in rhetoric, but there is no substance to the man when you scratch beneath the surface. THe Tory membership and the country voted him in when the alternative was an an unelectable lame duck. THe perfect storm.. What a sad state of affairs for the country.
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It’s still oven ready... it is just a European oven and we are no longer permitted to import it....
Get a life you sad looser it’s about time we got the blood sucking leeches of our backs the country voted out let’s see what the future brings all the remoaners should crawl back under their rotting logs and stop your bellyaching Removed
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He just forgot to turn on the oven
Not really. Most people accept we cannot force the EU to act in the best interests of their citizens. Thank goodness for democracy here in the UK.
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He is good with slogans and hollow nonsense but when push comes to shove he is AWFUL at policy
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10/12/2020 19:32:01 28 27
bbc
The oven ready was the Withdrawal agreement.

Even the BBC admit that

zzzzz
377
10/12/2020 19:33:23 32 4
bbc
That was to win the election. We know he'll say whatever he needs to to get his way, ask his exes!
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aj
10/12/2020 19:35:22 9 2
bbc
That was probably a dutch oven, and not the one to cook with ....
468
10/12/2020 19:35:57 1 2
bbc
Scratch is the word that suits you.
606
10/12/2020 19:39:51 7 6
bbc
The oven ready deal is the withdrawal agreement and that came into effect in January. No-one claimed we had an oven ready trade deal. Watch and learn.

https://mobile.twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1336660145527459841
637
10/12/2020 19:40:33 6 4
bbc
95% was 'oven ready', still is. It's the other 5% that doesn't work for either side and never would do.

Brexit was always going to be a disaster - we had more control in the EU with free trade, full employment and a strong growing economy.

But Boris is right to walk away from their demands - their demands make us a hostage or worse. Unless of course they agree to abide by our new laws!
10/12/2020 20:00:09 4 8
bbc
I agree rhetoric was over ambitious but then when the deck you've been handed to play with has been set up so as to allow you to win not one single hand then your in a mess from the beginning,.

Much as I despise Trump he was right in one thing and that is we should have made it 100% clear to the EU in 2016 that we'd voted to leave, were doing so whether they liked it or not.
10/12/2020 20:15:47 4 0
bbc
Oven ready + Christmas = Turkey, and Boris certainly fits that bill.
10/12/2020 20:17:45 5 0
bbc
Boris is no more a Tory than Trump is a Republican. They've both hijacked the parties they've chosen. BJ is a Boris Johnson, not a Tory. Brexit was his means of leading the split Tory Party. He knows the ERG will not let their prize go now that they've stolen the Tory leadership. He is their puppet and when their version of Brexit is set in stone they may well ditch him but he may still be useful
10/12/2020 20:19:15 1 2
bbc
Could anybody, I mean ANYBODY would have been worse than this monstrosity of a government? The voters were naive at best and reckless at worse, led by the nose by a bunch of lying chancers and a duplicitous press. We got exactly what we voted for. Corbyn was not the brightest knife in the box. But he meant to do well by the people, and he has always been a democrat. Lives would have been saved.
10/12/2020 20:32:31 0 0
bbc
Tell that to the Labour red wall voters.
10/12/2020 20:34:07 0 1
bbc
Could not agree more its just right now I would have taken Corbyn given what we know now.
Removed
10/12/2020 20:46:29 0 1
bbc
Oi lefty get a grip
10/12/2020 20:50:38 1 0
bbc
The Withdrawal Agreement was the deal to leave the EU, and was delivered at the start of the year, we have left as per teh Withdrawal Agreement. This is now about a TRADE deal with the EU, which should not come with EU powers baked into it as retribution for us leaving the EU.
10/12/2020 21:01:26 2 0
bbc
If the oven’s ready then time for Boris to stick his head in it. Someone else can do the stuffing though; don’t fancy that one.
CM
10/12/2020 21:06:35 2 0
bbc
Do any of them have any substance. I’m not convinced any politician doesn’t have there own agenda at heart. Quite sad to say it but I’m done it terms of having any confidence in our political leaders
10/12/2020 21:26:44 1 0
bbc
More like half baked
10/12/2020 21:37:09 1 0
bbc
Correct.
It turns out we had two awful choices, we have fallen to well below a snakes belly.
10/12/2020 21:58:49 2 0
bbc
Oven ready were all the turkeys that voted for Brexit in 2016
10/12/2020 22:16:38 1 0
bbc
OR is it you believed the lies, doctored photo's and false news in the Murdoch press ??????
10/12/2020 22:29:43 0 0
bbc
Couldn’t agree more, labour lost the plot and lost 2 winnable elections.
10/12/2020 23:18:47 0 0
bbc
Aha! You may have solved the oven-ready conundrum—it's the lame duck that's in it!!

Jan 1st, quack attack.
10/12/2020 23:25:24 0 0
bbc
The WA was oven ready and agreed with alterations within weeks of Boris becoming PM.
4
10/12/2020 19:18:12 29 78
bbc
Boris the first PM in the last 30 years that has a back bone, keep up the good work.
18
10/12/2020 19:19:25 19 10
bbc
You meant to say hasn’t, surely.
19
10/12/2020 19:19:25 676 142
bbc
God help us all... it’ll be a throwback to the 80s with what life was like under Mrs Thatcher....

Mass unemployment and rocketing inflation...

Remember those days anyone??
44
10/12/2020 19:21:00 145 584
bbc
British goods will be cheaper
58
10/12/2020 19:21:53 61 6
bbc
Yup. Hope Brexiteer’s enjoy summer’s in the UK ......
And then again, it might not.
87
10/12/2020 19:23:14 30 64
bbc
I do, a massive improvement on the Labour government from 1974 to 1979 at least we had electricity under Thatcher
Removed
252
10/12/2020 19:29:43 47 8
bbc
Yes I remember it well. God help us , Boris won't.
309
10/12/2020 19:26:03 17 7
bbc
Yes I shudder when I think of that awful woman
618
10/12/2020 19:37:18 3 1
bbc
It'll be worse than that
654
10/12/2020 19:40:50 7 14
bbc
Yep we finally threw off the Marxists and everyone’s life got better, unless you chose not to work
892
10/12/2020 19:47:48 4 3
bbc
Yes terrible times back then but Thatcher was in control .This clown just doesn't have clue .
957
10/12/2020 19:50:16 6 3
bbc
Yes. Thatcher was a Europhile and our rocketing interest rates were caused by her determination to join the ERM. It seems that some of us have rather selective memories that suit our politics.
10/12/2020 19:52:15 8 2
bbc
What British made goods? most companies are foreign owned (oh yes EU) or China. We are a pathetic nation re making things. No deal the the EU owned factories will close. The EU doesn't need the UK. The UK needs the EU (not Boris at his chums). Come on Boris and say the poverty that you, your voters, and Eton chums will give us in 2021! You don't care as you are rich!
10/12/2020 19:53:24 3 7
bbc
Back to the 80's! Did anyone tell you Corbyn didn't get elected? Best get your bomber jacket out - there is a picket line with your name on it!
10/12/2020 19:57:42 0 2
bbc
Yep. Happy days
10/12/2020 20:04:16 5 3
bbc
Yes, and I remember how the trade unions virtually destroyed the country (which is why we have virtually no manufacturing industries today). Remember when the world drove BMC cars, drove Leyland lorries and sailed in Clydebank built ships. All destroyed by the British-style of socialism.
10/12/2020 20:12:05 6 1
bbc
What happened in the 80s was a direct result of the mismanagement of the economy in the 60s and 70s
10/12/2020 20:18:30 3 1
bbc
Yes, I remember them well, Scargill, Red Robbo, Jack Jones, people who who used just causes and grievances to their own ends to try to establish a communist regime, and subsequently revealed some union leaders in the pay of the Soviets.
Why do people twist facts to fit their own agendas? Unions, industry employers and arrogant government all shot themselves in the foot postwar.
10/12/2020 20:33:59 5 1
bbc
Yes I do remember them and I also remember the riots instigated by Scargill et al and, until some sanity was imposed on the unions, the fact that we were seen as the 'Sick Man of Europe' with 20% inflation.
10/12/2020 20:43:46 5 2
bbc
What are you on about, Thatcher turned the mass unemployment round from the Failed labour Govt and got re-elected many times.
10/12/2020 20:41:58 5 2
bbc
Yes & they were great.
Far left unions dismembered, no more money thrown away on inefficient nationalised industries.
UK economy growing in leaps & bounds
Scargill publicly eviscerated.
"Rocketing inflation" of up to 25% came under the previous, LABOUR government & was brought down to 3.5-8% by Thatcher, so that's another socialist fib.
10/12/2020 20:43:03 3 3
bbc
And I can remember naive working class people voting for her then much in the same way. Oh how they came to regret that move, much as they will this one...
10/12/2020 20:54:47 1 0
bbc
Errmmmmm.........weren't we in the EU then? Didn't Mrs T hate the EU?? Don't you remember her "No.... No ...... No" speech?
Google youtube - Thatcher no no no
I can post the link if you cant find it
10/12/2020 21:09:19 5 1
bbc
I think you'll find the Labour party laid the foundations for that. During the last years of Labour in the 70's Britain had to go cap in hand to the IMF.
20
10/12/2020 19:19:26 921 184
bbc
Same old same old..
Taken for a ride by an inept prime minister who's making it up as he goes along, the EU has his number though
And he has a huge mandate. Something the EU doesn't.
282
10/12/2020 19:30:33 8 32
bbc
Same old same old boring remarks........
500
10/12/2020 19:36:47 10 86
bbc
Who cares about him?
Just concentrate on the ball.
We are about to leave the EU - completely and 100%
Great News!
978
10/12/2020 19:51:00 5 15
bbc
Just like the British public were lied to in 1975 when the UK joined the EEC. No ECJ, Commission or Parliament in Brussels back then! It was a free trade bloc of six nations NOT a protectionist 27 member Ponzi scheme!
10/12/2020 20:22:20 2 2
bbc
Yes and we've got their number but in their case all we get is the same pre- recorded message telling us to do it their way or not at all.
10/12/2020 20:24:30 1 0
bbc
Just wish they would publicly denounce this corrupt government and media over real reason. Tax evasion and upcoming EU directive.
10/12/2020 20:58:03 0 0
bbc
Sounds remarkably like all PMs
Kim
10/12/2020 21:10:43 0 1
bbc
But probably less inept than you
10/12/2020 21:35:28 0 0
bbc
Enjoy!
21
10/12/2020 19:19:37 1 16
bbc
yawn
4
10/12/2020 19:18:12 29 78
bbc
Boris the first PM in the last 30 years that has a back bone, keep up the good work.
22
10/12/2020 19:19:45 11 3
bbc
He doesn’t have a brain never mind a backbone. He’s a charlatan
23
10/12/2020 19:19:46 19 25
bbc
The EU could politically never allow a favourable deal. We will still trade and there will be some winners and losers on both sides. Change from the status quo should not be feared
4
10/12/2020 19:18:12 29 78
bbc
Boris the first PM in the last 30 years that has a back bone, keep up the good work.
24
10/12/2020 19:19:47 5 5
bbc
Breaking things apart is easy
4
10/12/2020 19:18:12 29 78
bbc
Boris the first PM in the last 30 years that has a back bone, keep up the good work.
25
10/12/2020 19:19:49 3 2
bbc
And a head filled with the same material
26
10/12/2020 19:19:49 1452 345
bbc
Johnson has failed. Breixt is a disaster.
156
10/12/2020 19:26:05 492 1442
bbc
We have had Brexit for a year now. Don't see any disaster so far...... Other than Covid and oh we have a vaccine which we would not have had if still in the EU. Not such a disaster after all.
208
10/12/2020 19:27:52 51 3
bbc
I agree. He's just there to take the blame now. The Conservative government will not look anything like this next year. And they'll just push all the blame on him.
No he hasn't. No it isn't.
287
10/12/2020 19:30:37 16 135
bbc
Brexit is what the people wanted - it's the people that failed with their "Make the UK Great Again" mentality - not Boris.
378
10/12/2020 19:33:23 5 68
bbc
Forget him.
Instead. think - "we are leaving the EU".
We get our lives back.
Independence and sovereignty.
I am not a Tory.
But I respect Boris's hard line, respecting both of those.
425
10/12/2020 19:34:46 3 48
bbc
Brexit happened a year ago. Just shouting "failure and disaster" sounds defeatist. If we have to adapt, we adapt don't we? I don't see failure to be honest, as we were always going to have to work through negotiations to get a basis on self-determination back.
450
10/12/2020 19:35:16 5 10
bbc
The number of times you’ve had your say on Brexit in this forum, I’m sure you should be able to spell it correctly by now.
712
10/12/2020 19:42:34 8 3
bbc
And so he should resign, surely.
742
10/12/2020 19:43:14 1 4
bbc
I hope your 156 mates noted the spelling error
748
10/12/2020 19:43:26 18 2
bbc
Brexit is a disaster, but Cameron, May and Johnson all failed. it's taken down 3 prime ministers, and soon a whole country, and some people still think it's a good idea. The vaccine is made in part by BioNTech, based, you guessed it in the EU. Our vaccine is less effective, and has not been signed off for use by the regulator, so how does that logic work in this case. Brexit will start on 1/1/2021
10/12/2020 19:52:38 2 4
bbc
As is your spelling.
10/12/2020 19:54:52 2 3
bbc
Breixt? So mad you can't spell it.
10/12/2020 19:59:48 4 1
bbc
We have not left yet
27
10/12/2020 19:19:53 13 28
bbc
Usual left nutters and expats incoming....like every HYS....every day...every week...for 4 years...
135
10/12/2020 19:25:01 6 2
bbc
And yet yours is the comment devoid of any content other than insults.
257
10/12/2020 19:29:51 1 1
bbc
Mainly a remain constituency here as most people who support Brexit no longer bother with the BBC
28
10/12/2020 19:19:58 124 53
bbc
No deal has been inevitable for 4yrs. None of us are surprised and most of us will just get on with life!
74
10/12/2020 19:22:42 88 93
bbc
Absolutely agree. The EU were never going to agree to any deal.
589
10/12/2020 19:39:29 11 4
bbc
Glad you can afford it!
10/12/2020 20:21:20 7 3
bbc
A considerably poorer life...
10/12/2020 22:22:35 2 1
bbc
those of you who still have jobs in 12 months.....
11/12/2020 01:00:48 6 0
bbc
Our children will be the ones who pay the price for one man’s massive ego. Boris is a complete narcissist, like trump and the former German and soviet dictators. The country has been duped by these Etonian idiots. Shame on them. Worst thing is, they won’t suffer, they have plenty of money. It’s the rest of us who will bear the brunt of their ineptitude
3
10/12/2020 19:17:49 732 126
bbc
If we got a trade deal with the EU, and then broke some of its terms, what would the EU do to us?

The answer is: instruct its members to raise tariffs on us.

If we don't get a deal, what would the WTO do if we broke some of its rules?

The answer is: instruct its members to raise tariffs on us.

Yet the Tories paint the EU as trying to subjugate us, whereas the WTO allows complete sovereignty.
29
10/12/2020 19:20:00 465 64
bbc
Not to mention that leaving with no deal would mean the imposition of tariffs on many goods, traded with many countries, in and outside the EU, from January 1st, whether we follow the rules or not.
10/12/2020 21:55:26 2 2
bbc
More than 40% of WTO tarrifs are considerably lower than comparable EU tarrifs.
10/12/2020 22:16:39 0 1
bbc
Those tarifs were already in place. The trade would continue as normal in the case of a deal. What would happen now we will be able to lover taxes on some of the goods like sawing machine needles, inner bycicle tyres, roses and many other essential goods.
10/12/2020 22:45:33 0 3
bbc
EU vat@20% then the EU add WORLD TAX Tarrifs ON TOP OF THAT.no eu no eu vat that would help the poorest people THE EU take our cash and hand it to their French farmers.they call us treasure island because we pay for everything and the EU grab it and then ORDER US TO PAY STAY OBERY.A free people does not OBEY another Lands laws EVER unless it is a COLONY and its people slaves.
11/12/2020 00:02:35 0 0
bbc
dont waste you time trying to win your case with sound reason - your intended audience is too dumb and blinkered to understand or hear it
11/12/2020 03:49:05 0 0
bbc
Like the USA and China, so no change then?
11/12/2020 06:37:48 0 1
bbc
And all these countires will be paying us tariffs as well.
jad
11/12/2020 08:23:25 0 0
bbc
again not true, WTO is in place only where you do not have a trading agreement, all EU countries have to adhere to the EU trading agreements they make with other countries. No deal means WTO tariffs on all goods ( with exception ) that we trade with countries we don't have a trade agreement. We currently have 55 trade deals many rolled over from the EU deals those countries are tariff free.
11/12/2020 10:08:37 0 0
bbc
Don't confuse the quitters with facts that contradict their deeply held predjudices.
30
10/12/2020 19:20:02 23 39
bbc
Hard Brexit it is then, Jolly good.
91
10/12/2020 19:23:24 5 2
bbc
Do you make lots of money from a no-deal Brexit too?
158
10/12/2020 19:26:12 1 1
bbc
Wan..r
31
10/12/2020 19:20:11 3 16
bbc
BBC - Why did you leave it out this article that Boris is heading to France to meet Macron over fishing.
148
10/12/2020 19:25:39 2 1
bbc
Because Boris misunderstood the invitation and thought they were going fishing .
436
10/12/2020 19:34:56 0 1
bbc
Pardon ?
Thrilling news from the prime minister this evening. And a perfectly reasonable position for the UK government to adopt.

Thank you, Boris.

I'm not getting my hopes up though, because WTO provides an existential threat to the EU through the simple fact that others will see the scare stories associated with a clean break are pure fluff.
33
10/12/2020 19:20:24 807 121
bbc
I trust the Spitting Image puppet more than the real guy
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10/12/2020 19:30:36 100 375
bbc
Ursula VD Leyen isn't a guy !!
Then you must be a remain voter. Bet you trust the side of a bus more than the puppet.
353
10/12/2020 19:32:25 2 25
bbc
Because you're daft
406
10/12/2020 19:34:16 4 32
bbc
I see that all the whining remainers have crawled out of their pits, turned their computers on and are posting their usual garbage !!
513
10/12/2020 19:37:19 21 3
bbc
He also is much brighter
524
10/12/2020 19:37:39 1 13
bbc
You suit spitting image perfectly.
10/12/2020 20:43:35 0 4
bbc
Thats cos you're a muppet
10/12/2020 21:02:21 1 0
bbc
it will have to be melted down same as the humpty trumpty one . who wants yesterdays losers on the screen.
10/12/2020 22:30:16 1 1
bbc
Best comment so far!
XX
10/12/2020 23:20:12 0 0
bbc
You bet!!
11/12/2020 06:35:20 0 0
bbc
Wow, a lot of thought went into that comment.
12
10/12/2020 19:18:54 110 27
bbc
oven ready?

hm
34
10/12/2020 19:20:26 43 143
bbc
that was the WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT not the TRADE AGREEMENT.
Doh
191
10/12/2020 19:27:24 18 4
bbc
That is an obvious lie.
236
10/12/2020 19:29:12 26 6
bbc
No, sorry, he was talking about the trade deal: listen to Mr Johnson himself during the election campaign (after the Withdrawal Agreement)... https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/boris-johnson-oven-ready-brexit-deal-6631776?jwsource=cl
318
10/12/2020 19:31:20 24 3
bbc
No it wasn't 'doh'. That is just what the plump spaffer is saying now because he had told do many lies that he is terminally confused.
Not that he cares any more than you do. Suck it up.
477
10/12/2020 19:36:17 16 1
bbc
That's the one. The one, the one Boris decided he could rip up nine months after he signed it. Once a liar always a liar.
617
10/12/2020 19:37:04 16 4
bbc
No it wasn't, you're believing Tory re-written garbage.

Typical Brexiteer.

Well, you should be tbe first ones to be made unemployed!
640
10/12/2020 19:40:35 5 2
bbc
No, you're lying, if you want evidence it's in the Tory manifesto for the world to see. Even blind Tories.
660
10/12/2020 19:41:05 0 2
bbc
Well said.
10/12/2020 20:02:44 1 3
bbc
Oh great that makes it all OK then. NOT
which ever way you present it you can't oven ready bullshit Removed
11/12/2020 09:19:21 0 0
bbc
That's a lie!
35
10/12/2020 19:20:30 27 10
bbc
An oven-ready no-deal!
Sounds good. You still have to remove the outer packaging and pierce the film.
1
10/12/2020 19:17:42 1688 270
bbc
Boris Johnson says there is a "strong possibility" the UK will fail to strike a post-Brexit trade agreement with the EU.
Don't remember this written on the side of a bus ?
36
10/12/2020 19:20:32 140 372
bbc
Hard Brexit ,though.
323
10/12/2020 19:31:24 15 76
bbc
Yes, isn't it great news!!!
880
10/12/2020 19:47:32 7 1
bbc
I think you should read this, you are so far from right on this, but dont take my word for it . https://www.rspca.org.uk/whatwedo/endcruelty/changingthelaw/brexit
10/12/2020 19:55:40 3 2
bbc
Foxes will get no benefit from Brexit.
4
10/12/2020 19:18:12 29 78
bbc
Boris the first PM in the last 30 years that has a back bone, keep up the good work.
37
10/12/2020 19:20:37 4 3
bbc
What absolute bile.....
38
10/12/2020 19:20:41 558 69
bbc
'... a catastrophic failure of statesmanship' - B. Johnson
266
10/12/2020 19:30:01 397 92
bbc
Johnson and his cronies are turning into the North Korea of Europe.
he couldn't force them to act rationally
Kim
10/12/2020 21:19:29 0 1
bbc
Oh for goodness sake, please have a sense of perspective.
xlr
10/12/2020 21:20:13 2 0
bbc
It would be horribly ironic if the covid vaccine saved the elderly vulnerable from the virus, only for them to die of malnutrition because of bare shelves and lack of food diversity due to Brexit.
10/12/2020 21:47:48 3 0
bbc
To fail at statesmanship you have to be a statesman. Boris is many things to women, to newspapers et al., but to be a statesman is beyond his ken.
11/12/2020 03:54:49 1 0
bbc
the opposite, you've been saved from your own ignorance.
11/12/2020 08:54:44 0 0
bbc
Its unimportant.
What is important is that we are leaving the rotten-to-the-core club.
We will soon be an independent, fully sovereign nation.
And I, for one, can hardly wait!!!
Life will be great.
Yes!!!!
39
10/12/2020 19:20:42 19 37
bbc
Stay strong Boris and give them nothing.
125
10/12/2020 19:24:49 2 3
bbc
It's them who have to give us something dumbo, or large parts of our economy [people like you and I]will end up with nothing.
446
10/12/2020 19:28:58 0 1
bbc
Apparently turkeys really do vote for Christmas
40
10/12/2020 19:20:43 141 37
bbc
He and his government must resign they lied on the leave campaign and have failed to deliver their election promises.
137
10/12/2020 19:25:07 89 16
bbc
He is a liar , proven, so what did anyone expect
Remain defo had all the best lies though.

Boris just sticking to his manifesto.
10/12/2020 21:05:48 0 3
bbc
He has had to deal with a so called virus which was planned to delay brexit a population who blamed him for every death plus the two fools of the devolved governments no one could of done better not even the tank chasing lawyer. In starmer-smith
Kim
10/12/2020 21:30:42 0 3
bbc
I voted leave and I was not lied to
10/12/2020 21:47:51 2 0
bbc
Vote them out. That’s the way to do it.
11
10/12/2020 19:18:50 111 36
bbc
How did it come to this.

Being led blind into something no majority wanted.
41
10/12/2020 19:20:47 54 125
bbc
The UK voted to leave the EU, you and your like are in denial.
73
10/12/2020 19:22:40 20 3
bbc
No Deal BREXIT and Deal BREXIT very different beasts my friend
533
10/12/2020 19:37:56 17 6
bbc
We voted to leave WITH a deal. That is what we were promised by Vote Leave. I never voted to leave without a deal. This is economic suicide.
mjp
10/12/2020 19:51:46 4 1
bbc
Leave with a deal. Not leave with no deal.
10/12/2020 20:23:07 0 0
bbc
One can leave any agreement, but must still live in the same world.
10/12/2020 22:17:56 0 1
bbc
Not the UK, just 17.5m of them.
11/12/2020 08:50:47 0 0
bbc
Yes, the UK voted to leave the EU, thanks to Vote Leave breaking electoral law (as proven in court) and a bunch of outright lies about the easiness of leaving the EU and staying in the single market and customs union.
42
10/12/2020 19:20:55 352 23
bbc
Having previously stated the odds of not getting a deal as a million to one, if this actually happens this would technically make Leicester City winning the Premier League as 5000:1 outsiders look like it was a foregone conclusion back then.
10/12/2020 22:51:19 56 2
bbc
If only I could have found a bookie willing to take the odds he offered.
11/12/2020 00:22:31 1 0
bbc
If they were a million to one then it shows what an utter failure he is in not getting a deal!
11/12/2020 07:14:48 0 0
bbc
Is that something you have just made up.
12
10/12/2020 19:18:54 110 27
bbc
oven ready?

hm
43
10/12/2020 19:21:00 10 2
bbc
Yeah, looks like we're stuffed!
19
10/12/2020 19:19:25 676 142
bbc
God help us all... it’ll be a throwback to the 80s with what life was like under Mrs Thatcher....

Mass unemployment and rocketing inflation...

Remember those days anyone??
44
10/12/2020 19:21:00 145 584
bbc
British goods will be cheaper
172
10/12/2020 19:26:44 57 3
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British goods made in china...
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10/12/2020 19:29:44 9 2
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because we will impose tariffs on imports or because British manufacturers will be less comptetive in Europe and have to slash prices to sell more locally? Or simply because with higher unemployment will be poorer generally as a nation and therefore not be able to afford current prices?
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10/12/2020 19:38:14 13 2
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They won't. British prices will go up because of shortages caused by "Brexit". That's capitalism.
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mjp
10/12/2020 19:45:29 9 2
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Brilliant! Substandard British goods can be had cheaper than their already inflated prices! Winner!
10/12/2020 19:52:44 7 1
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We make sod all!
10/12/2020 19:52:35 3 1
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Why? There were no tariffs on them before, so nothing changes. But we import more manufactured goods than we make at home, and those from the EU will definitely be more expensive
10/12/2020 19:59:31 1 2
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Really.....please give one example. Not forgetting that they could be made with EU parts. I'll wait
10/12/2020 20:00:10 2 2
bbc
I think not, all the fuel costs and many of the raw materials still come from abroad or are priced in USD so as the pound tanks costs go up - no matter where stuff come from
10/12/2020 20:04:40 1 1
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Do you really think it is that simple? Here's an example for you - British meat sales - many cuts of meat are currently sold to the EU because the majority of the British won't eat them (eg pigs' trotters). These will be difficult to export (customs delays and tariffs). This, in turn means the farmers will need to raise prices for the meat they sell to us. That's one example of many.
Pin
10/12/2020 20:09:38 3 0
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No, my friend. British goods will not be cheaper. If you had just a bit of economic knowledge you would understand why, but you evidently do not
10/12/2020 20:16:26 0 0
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Which goods?
10/12/2020 20:41:00 0 0
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LOL!
10/12/2020 20:45:38 0 0
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British goods are more expensive to start with, how are they going to get cheaper? there is going to be more demand than supply! um what happens then? what a stupid thing to say lol
10/12/2020 21:00:16 0 0
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Not true for any company that imports materials. WTO tariffs will apply and prices will go up. And what do you suppose happens when competition is reduced?
10/12/2020 21:11:49 0 0
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We make very little now compared to 45 years ago.
The chicken race to the bottom is coming home to roost.
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10/12/2020 19:17:42 1688 270
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Boris Johnson says there is a "strong possibility" the UK will fail to strike a post-Brexit trade agreement with the EU.
Don't remember this written on the side of a bus ?
But you remember what was written on the ballot paper?
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xlr
10/12/2020 19:26:21 91 13
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I remember how hard Camp Leave tried to convince everyone that a vote for Brexit wasn't the same as a vote for Hard Brexit. I still have their leaflets in a recycle bin somewhere.
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10/12/2020 19:30:42 84 10
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To be frank, the entire campaign was at best vague and at worst richter scale lies.
854
10/12/2020 19:46:41 12 5
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Shame we couldn't vote for no imbeciles - you wouldn't make the cut.
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10/12/2020 19:17:48 301 17
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Just what he always wanted methinks!
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10/12/2020 19:21:01 504 51
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Problem is Tyke, this is the man who had two speeches at the ready and therefore it seems he doesn't really care one way or the other.
The man is a self promoting Latin spewing chortling buffoon .
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mjp
10/12/2020 19:49:24 25 2
bbc
Apologise for that comment.

Its an insult to Latin spweing chortling buffoons to associate boris with them.
10/12/2020 20:01:41 19 4
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agreed - all he ever wanted was to be Prime Minister and he couldn't give 2 pence for anything or anyone else
10/12/2020 20:06:23 2 18
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Learn Latin! Seems your education is not so good ..
Kim
10/12/2020 21:23:41 3 10
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Very good insult, did it take you long to think of that one. Remember statues are only erected to the criticised not the critics!
10/12/2020 21:51:48 3 11
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He is terrific.....easily our best hope.
10/12/2020 22:04:41 2 2
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and so many of us voted for his party we gave him control
10/12/2020 22:52:22 6 1
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He never had two speeches ready. he just lied about that to make it sound like he was giving it serious thought. His only serious thought was "what will play well with my Tory chums?".
10/12/2020 22:56:05 2 6
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Someone said to me never trust a TORY CON as they always lie.MAY lied went around plotting for a year with Oily Robbins.Its normal the lost are rotten.they take our money live off us and then they commit treason CON LAB NOT DEMS LORDS. UK IS NOT A DEMOCRACY if it were we would be OUT FREE not still paying billions to NEXT MARCH 2021 YES you read that
11/12/2020 07:18:39 0 0
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Very nice...not
11/12/2020 08:17:29 0 0
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You obviously consider thinking through the available options before making a decision to be a weakness. How would you suggest decisions should be made ?
11/12/2020 10:17:54 0 0
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And those are the nicest things we can say about him. My real thought would, and have, get me banned from here!
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10/12/2020 19:17:49 732 126
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If we got a trade deal with the EU, and then broke some of its terms, what would the EU do to us?

The answer is: instruct its members to raise tariffs on us.

If we don't get a deal, what would the WTO do if we broke some of its rules?

The answer is: instruct its members to raise tariffs on us.

Yet the Tories paint the EU as trying to subjugate us, whereas the WTO allows complete sovereignty.
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10/12/2020 19:21:06 45 6
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Absolutely true. Unfortunately you can’t reason with stupid
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10/12/2020 19:21:06 9 6
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Australia, did Johnson mention Australia? Strewth.
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10/12/2020 19:21:06 2161 277
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"Easiest trade deal in history" - Fox

"There is no plan for no deal, because we’re going to get a great deal." - Johnson

"The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want." - Gove

Well these have aged like fine wine....
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10/12/2020 19:27:25 965 1878
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I would say the French wine will have plenty of time to age once we stop buying it.
Personally I find it hugely over-rated. Like membership of the EU.
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10/12/2020 19:31:24 67 17
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Yes, it's vinegar now
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10/12/2020 19:35:59 276 43
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That's because they are a mixture of delusion, lies and wishful thinking - like the whole pathetic, miserable Brexit project has been from the start
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10/12/2020 19:40:08 112 15
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Gove has a passion for Malbec but the way he blames everyone for the failure of the brexit talks and nothing to do with Boris and his far right tory party he must be drinking more than he should.
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10/12/2020 19:46:27 75 3
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You assume that the path we are travelling along is not what Gove and others had wanted.
10/12/2020 19:51:37 24 105
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Just like your cynicism.

Once out we will prosper. Grow and find new opportunities like we have done as a country for centuries.

The only thing holding us back is the left wing Marxists.
10/12/2020 19:52:43 15 75
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Yes & it could well have been if it were not for two things, the first being the 3 years May a Remainer posing as a Leaver achieving absolutely NOTHING and secondly the attitude of the EU which sees no reason why THEY cannot have complete control over our country even though we have no seat at the meetings that decide this. Because of this Boris has been playing with 4 6's against 4 Kings
10/12/2020 20:14:48 4 17
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It should have been, but cant account for the EU being stupid and belligerent can you
10/12/2020 20:27:14 6 0
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3 idiots or liars take your pick.
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10/12/2020 19:21:08 7 8
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Wow this is unbelievably

He has managed to get an Australian style trade deal

So in short after his trip to the EU he has brought back

A STD for the UK

This is so Boris Johnson
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10/12/2020 19:18:50 111 36
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How did it come to this.

Being led blind into something no majority wanted.
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10/12/2020 19:21:16 5 8
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The trouble is, by your methodology , even fewer wanted to remain
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10/12/2020 19:21:18 1 15
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnn!
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10/12/2020 19:21:18 31 12
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o dear, how can you fail. o wait its Boris
54
10/12/2020 19:21:29 3 4
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Couldn't they just have a penalty shootout?
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10/12/2020 19:23:39 2 1
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Germans always win those
107
10/12/2020 19:24:17 0 1
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What against the Germans? are you mad? It never ends well!
441
10/12/2020 19:27:49 0 1
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Good idea Phil Neville to take the decider.
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10/12/2020 19:21:34 1296 285
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Its all going well isnt it

Job losses, food stockpiling, potential vaccine shortages, GDP loss.......

Brexiters got caught up in the (thankfully) short lived bout of alt right populism that spread around the world from 2015 - 2019 that gave us Trump, Boris, Bolsinaro and Brexit

Thankfully Trump, Boris & Bolsinaro will be short lived

Brexits negative effects will be felt for decades to come
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10/12/2020 19:23:35 340 762
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i think brexit has also caused the fog this morning as well
I think the bbc will back that up
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10/12/2020 19:24:51 20 77
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Man up and stop whingeing.
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10/12/2020 19:27:02 35 5
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Well put.
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xlr
10/12/2020 19:35:48 52 9
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Retired Leave voters think they're immune from the job losses or loss of working rights.

But if we don't work or our wages go down, who pays their pensions? Nobody, that's who. They'll be heftily cut.
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10/12/2020 19:38:12 12 70
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Yes, its going spiffing. Thank you.
We are finally getting out of the club - for good!!!
YES!!!!
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10/12/2020 19:39:32 13 52
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Cultural Marxism at its finest.... blame anyone but yourself
The people spoke, you chose not to listen, hence the grass roots support for Brexit and Boris
You lost all the arguments
Removed
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10/12/2020 19:48:12 6 25
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Hug a tree, take the knee & pull down some statues - humble pie for you when your loony lefty eurofanatisism comes crashing down around your ears once Italy files for bankruptcy next year! Thank God we won't be piling more money across the channel to subsidise poor French farming! Adieu EU!
10/12/2020 19:49:11 6 14
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Job losses? Before Covid it was the best unemployment rates in 40 years. Get a grip.
10/12/2020 19:55:27 3 10
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Yep and if you lived in the 70's the effects of the Common agricultural and Common Fisheries policy was felt for decades....until we got used to producing a fraction of what we once did!!
10/12/2020 19:56:50 3 17
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Except that still hasn't happened as of today. Project Fear leaves us unable to take anything from remoaners with any sort of credibility. See what ACTUALLY happens and be prepared for humble pie on some points at least. For many it would still be worth it, even worse case scenario and I'm tempted to agree.
10/12/2020 20:18:16 1 13
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Maybe so but they would be far, far less than having the fraud riddled, arrogant EU dictating how we should live our lives.
10/12/2020 20:25:15 0 12
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Oh look; more predictions of doom & gloom.

You've had FOUR YEARS of peddling those lies & NONE have come true.
10/12/2020 20:32:54 8 0
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Well if we will have a journalist for a pm. And what do the Brexiteers know about running a business, let alone a country.
10/12/2020 20:34:36 0 8
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.....and for you the EU will live forever and continue to screw the Mediterranean nations like Greece, Italy and Spain. Nice places to live if you fancy it?
10/12/2020 20:44:03 2 8
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A resurgent right will come back so long as they feel ignored, looked down upon, and marginalised by the left. People would do best to understand those of other opinions in their country rather than insult each other as "out of touch idiots".
10/12/2020 20:45:26 0 8
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Nah but all the referendum and election loosers will be moaning about and we will still be laughing at you
Kim
10/12/2020 21:06:57 0 3
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Guess your glass is always half empty
10/12/2020 21:47:53 1 0
bbc
Adding Modi in India to your list of dangerous populist fools.
10/12/2020 21:48:38 0 1
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And Jeremy and Keir are wonderful.
Jo
10/12/2020 22:22:15 1 0
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Poland, Turkey, the Philippines,Hungary. The Populist genie is sadly far from being contained
10/12/2020 22:28:43 2 0
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Brexiters will have an oven ready excuse. Covid, EU, BBC, remainers or someone else, it will never be their fault, they are never wrong about anything.
10/12/2020 22:36:44 0 0
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Winning though.
Winning.
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10/12/2020 19:21:46 517 54
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Jacob Rees Mogg will surely be checking his apocalypse hedge funds.....once he comes out of hibernation.
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10/12/2020 19:38:15 438 26
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His investment company is part of the investigation into the paradise papers. As are some other Tories who have links to companiesn listed in the paradise papers database.

Strangely, the UK media seem to be ignoring the corruption. It is the non UK media who are investigating, and non UK journalists, despite UK journalists having access to the database.
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10/12/2020 19:42:38 47 2
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He should apologise about his filthy comments over the Grenfell Tower people.
10/12/2020 20:38:58 38 1
bbc
Yes, JRM has been dazzlingly invisible since the election a year ago.
10/12/2020 20:55:11 23 0
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Out of his coffin at nightfall you mean.
10/12/2020 22:01:43 14 0
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no - he is busy counting the millions of pounds he has made since the referendum because of the Brexit vote
10/12/2020 22:05:50 15 0
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He got the better of you - his stuff is already hidden in Ireland...
10/12/2020 22:48:06 3 0
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He’s waiting, 6 months or less the 1922 daggers will see Boris gone and lord snooty Rees Mogg as PM. Not a peep from Boris whilst May was PM, then boom and oh!
10/12/2020 23:51:43 3 0
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Rees-Moggs hedge fund is in Dollars. He makes bank every time he makes the Pound fall in value.
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10/12/2020 19:21:50 8 9
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Odds on an extension? Jan 31st "We're so close to a deal that it would be reckless to leave tomorrow"
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10/12/2020 19:27:13 0 0
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Not going to happen. Just have to work with what we have.
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10/12/2020 19:19:25 676 142
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God help us all... it’ll be a throwback to the 80s with what life was like under Mrs Thatcher....

Mass unemployment and rocketing inflation...

Remember those days anyone??
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10/12/2020 19:21:53 61 6
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Yup. Hope Brexiteer’s enjoy summer’s in the UK ......
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10/12/2020 19:22:03 21 26
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The mandate is to leave. He is fulfilling the democratic instruction.

It's not just about a deal, something BBC News delights in omitting.
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10/12/2020 19:24:09 5 2
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It wasn't an instruction - it was just an opinion poll. There is no mandate.

If you want to interpret it as such, then you require a supermajority, in which case the mandate is to remain.
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10/12/2020 19:24:46 0 1
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Leaving doesn't mean we have to walk off a cliff!
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10/12/2020 19:25:13 0 1
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We have left.
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10/12/2020 19:25:13 1 0
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The UK left 10 months ago. Brexiteers cannot deliver any of the benefits they promised so now the aim is to mitigate the damage. Johnson is failing badly, not a surprise.
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10/12/2020 19:25:34 1 0
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The promise that the official Leave campaign - led by the likes of Boris Johnson - made was that there would be a Deal with the EU and lots of things would go on without any problem, and that doing a trade deal with the EU would be the easiest ever.

Can you really not remember back to what you were told in 2016, and then Johnson retracting a lot of it on the morning after the Referendum?
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10/12/2020 19:27:25 0 0
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Forgotten already?!!! It wasn't a mandate and most of the Leave propaganda said we'd get a good deal. But they must have known it wouldn't be that easy. And I think most of them now realise that no deal won't be good for us, and will do their political futures no good either.
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10/12/2020 19:33:16 0 0
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Hi de hi, Ted. Is there room for a clown at Maplins?
563
10/12/2020 19:38:38 0 0
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I thought the UK left the EU? Referendum result obtained. Now were are the promises made by the leave campaign that many leavers would have listened to?
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ED
10/12/2020 19:18:29 70 19
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"Oven ready deal"
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10/12/2020 19:22:05 18 3
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yes stick in the meekrowarvee
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Njv
10/12/2020 19:19:15 542 148
bbc
Well that's us slipping into the third world then!!! Nice on Tories ,morons.
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10/12/2020 19:22:07 91 246
bbc
Nah , it just means tariffs on IMPORTED CHEDDAR

SERIOUSLY? well that's what the BBC fact check focused on
10/12/2020 20:32:30 15 2
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You do know what an example is, right? All imported food will be somewhere between 20%-80% more expensive in January than in December. Since the UK produces only 60% of it's own food that extra cost is going to be a big issue for a lot of people.

On top of which, unless the UK matches the subsidies currently given to farmers by the EU, locally produced food is going to get more expensive as well.
10/12/2020 22:03:29 1 0
bbc
UK cheddar will be cheaper then imported cheddar, but there wont be much alternative.
Ask the Australians about the choice of cheese in their country
10/12/2020 22:35:44 2 4
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Yes unbelievable 37% tariff on imported cheddar cheese. Do you know a Frenchman who has ever bought Somerset Brie! I have never seen a British cheese in a French supermarket. Perhaps we should just buy one of the 750 British cheeses available to us. Oh and according to The Independent there will be 27% on evaporated milk, that’s going to hit us hard, what a laugh.
10/12/2020 23:13:18 1 0
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Yep we eat mostly French apples, Irish cheddar, and what about the potato three quarters of which are imported from EC even though they were invented by Sir Walter Rayleigh and Gary Lineker
11/12/2020 08:17:07 0 0
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Not just cheddar. Everything, and our exports too
11/12/2020 09:03:42 0 0
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Let them eat brie. Oh no, it's going up in price. No morning avocado on toast either. Shucks.
11/12/2020 09:49:03 0 0
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Just Cheddar? Oh dear, you've been lied to AGAIN. Did you KNOW that the Conservatives refused to support EU Animal Welfare Bills? Why don;t you support that animals during transportation should be fed and watered properly? The Conservatives voted AGAINST that during the 1990s. Now you want animals to lose their EU rights and be at the mercy of Conservatives. Bravo.
11/12/2020 10:26:54 0 0
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Don't be silly! Read on to find out what the tariffs will be. Tariffs work both ways. What we export, such as parts that go into cars that are built in EU, will cost more and, because their internal market is much more than our external market, our products will be less affordable and less attractive. Low WTO tariffs could lead to cheap imports harming UK industry.
11/12/2020 10:41:46 0 0
bbc
Did you not know of Canadian Cheddar/Irish Cheddar/Australian Cheddar?
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10/12/2020 19:22:09 1286 261
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Probably walking away from the biggest trading block in the world, who also happen to be our friends and neighbours... was, maybe, a dumb thing to do?
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10/12/2020 19:27:26 556 1022
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They aren't our friends. They have quite deliberately scuppered any chance of reaching a deal. It's obvious that the French have been instrumental in preventing a deal on fishing. Bizarrely, their fishermen will now suffer even more because they will have no access to our waters. But the biggest sticking point remains the refusal of the EU to accept that we will not follow their rules.
10/12/2020 20:01:47 0 3
bbc
Walking away from a mess you mean
10/12/2020 20:18:45 3 2
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The transpacific trade block is the largest in the world? We are not walking distance from them. About 8000 miles from the biggest trade block
10/12/2020 20:21:56 8 9
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You seriously think the French are our friends?
10/12/2020 20:31:10 4 5
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Yes the Nations, People & Companies of the splendid European mainland are our friends and we want to remain the closest friends with them. The EU is however NOT our friend and never has been as all it wants & has ever wanted from the UK is it's money and it's obedience to every single one of its Diktats. Diktats which are routinely ignored by certain 'Members' if they don't like them.
10/12/2020 20:35:56 3 2
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We are wrong to walk away from the EC member countries - they are still out friends. But we are right to walk away from the EU "parent company" and its restrictive practices and desire to take away more and more of our sovereign decisions.
10/12/2020 20:43:21 0 2
bbc
Friends? The French our friends? If you genuinely believe that then I feel sorry for you. Maybe you have your fingers crossed behind your back.
10/12/2020 20:54:08 2 0
bbc
Not maybe dumb.
Definitely catastophically stupid.
And an action that has been proven to have no benefits for the UK whatsoever.
10/12/2020 20:57:26 1 0
bbc
The people are our friends, the politicians are self serving egomaniacs - all of them
10/12/2020 21:03:00 0 0
bbc
Lol
A bunch of counties grouped up and only 5 or 6 are net contributors????
10/12/2020 21:05:13 0 4
bbc
This site is full of brainwashed remainers bitter and gutless.
Leavers are the ones with passion and ambition whils you lot get told what to think and say ??
10/12/2020 21:05:53 0 0
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you really think the French & The Germans are our Friends ? Some friends like Bosch, Volkswagen, Porsche, Audi & Mercedes who lied & cheated about car emissions fraud. Perhaps only following orders.
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10/12/2020 19:18:12 17 6
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If we can’t get a trade deal, can we at least have a security & intelligence sharing deal?
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10/12/2020 19:22:10 15 6
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intelligence sharing on its own would by default completely emit most of his cabinet members.
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LEO
10/12/2020 19:38:03 2 2
bbc
Childish comment made for no purpose and is simply not true. Post intelligent comments (if you can).
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10/12/2020 19:17:49 732 126
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If we got a trade deal with the EU, and then broke some of its terms, what would the EU do to us?

The answer is: instruct its members to raise tariffs on us.

If we don't get a deal, what would the WTO do if we broke some of its rules?

The answer is: instruct its members to raise tariffs on us.

Yet the Tories paint the EU as trying to subjugate us, whereas the WTO allows complete sovereignty.
You have an odd view of the EU, the UK and the world...
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10/12/2020 19:29:52 20 4
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A usual suspect on HYS say.... Same old diatribe every time
10/12/2020 22:49:42 2 1
bbc
Here is reality.
There are three economic superpowers, USA, China and the EU.
No other country has any real economic power except, maybe, Japan.
Whatever one of the big boys want, they get.
11/12/2020 10:09:13 0 0
bbc
Pot kettle black!
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10/12/2020 19:22:14 26 8
bbc
Is this real or am I having a bad dream ?
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10/12/2020 19:28:38 3 7
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Its Ok you are having a bad dream!
656
10/12/2020 19:40:51 3 1
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Unfortunately it’s real. We are being led by a bunch of idiots.
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10/12/2020 19:18:47 47 6
bbc
A million to one comes hone then?
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10/12/2020 19:22:16 21 4
bbc
Time to buy a lottery ticket? Sigh.
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10/12/2020 19:22:20 140 18
bbc
So, has he failed to conclude the easiest deal in history or were such claims bare faced lies in order to persuade ditherers to vote leave?
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10/12/2020 19:35:11 105 9
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It's either that or he really thought that the UK would get access to the single market without having to abide by market rules... either way it's lies or stupidity. My guess is he pure lied to get to be PM - but it's possible he was stupid.
10/12/2020 21:12:54 0 3
bbc
You mean like the emergency budget that was supposed to happen the day after we voted to leave - or was that a bare faced lie in order to persuade ditherers to vote remain?
Kim
10/12/2020 21:29:05 0 3
bbc
I didn't hesitate to vote LEAVE
11/12/2020 04:02:18 0 0
bbc
Rubbish
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10/12/2020 19:22:21 1 9
bbc
Boris ready to fly to Paris to confront Macron as fishing risks sinking Brexit trade deal

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1370992/Brexit-news-boris-johnson-france-emmanuel-macron-latest-european-union-trade-deal
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10/12/2020 19:24:06 7 0
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If it's in the Daily Express it must be true!!!
10/12/2020 22:44:14 0 0
bbc
He’s got to self isolate after being in Brussels , so he can’t go to France or is he doing a Cummings.
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10/12/2020 19:22:23 83 6
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Winter is really coming...
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10/12/2020 19:28:07 25 1
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Where’s John snow when you need him!
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10/12/2020 19:18:56 1741 460
bbc
Boris. You're a liar and a failure. Resign.
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10/12/2020 19:22:30 177 535
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three and a half more years
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10/12/2020 19:30:28 7 24
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Yes, that is bad news.
But think positive.
We are about to leave the rotten club!!
10/12/2020 19:55:40 8 3
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You cant eat sovereignty gammon
10/12/2020 20:00:49 7 1
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Lucky if he lasts another three and a half months, the way things are going. But the Conservative Party doesn't exactly have a large choice of capable MPs who might replace Johnson. Ahead of the last election, he purged the party of candidates he thought might threaten him, which means the ceiling for Tory MPs has been set very low. Can't think of any contenders except Sunak, or possibly Javid.
Four & a half - we've ditched the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.
Oh & we'll get another Conservative government in 2024 when Labour once again show their truly extremist, white hating nature.
Removed
10/12/2020 20:38:30 4 1
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I will place a £1000 wager with you now that Johnson will not be PM in three and a half years.
Owl
10/12/2020 21:17:32 4 0
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There maybe three & half more years of Tories ruining the country but I reckon Boris won't go the distance & yes he was helped by Corbyn who sat on the fence because he didn't the EU. So we have an half baked ToryTurkey & a Lame Duck ex Labour Leader to thank for the shambles that is Brexit.
Abc
10/12/2020 22:40:26 0 2
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more likely 25 and a half years more, the opposition are a joke
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10/12/2020 19:22:33 643 121
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Not what was promised at the Referendum or the Election, let the people have a vote regarding if this is what they want....Lied to twice now....
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10/12/2020 19:51:11 155 414
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Change the record!
10/12/2020 20:02:22 17 24
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It was leave vs remain... and you're right this wasn't promised in the referendum, nobody said if I voted to leave that 4 years later we'd still be in.

Stop arguing for a second referendum when the result of the first has not been implemented.
10/12/2020 20:10:28 3 19
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No party, politicians promise is ever achieved. Can’t wIt to get out of the club.
10/12/2020 20:23:01 13 3
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The Cameron Govt did promise this if voted for Brexit . 51% thought they lied. They didn’t . But the liars and cheaters won. And we all suffer
10/12/2020 20:56:07 13 13
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What, you mean lets keep voting until you get the result YOU want??? We voted to leave, please accept democracy in action...
10/12/2020 21:06:41 8 8
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And you'll respect the result of the "peoples" vote will you - or only if the result is the one you want?
Kim
10/12/2020 21:18:37 5 4
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Not that old chestnut! Face it, it is not going to happen.
10/12/2020 21:38:11 3 1
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Crying won’t change anything. Get used to it!
10/12/2020 22:23:15 5 1
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If you got a 2nd (technically a 3rd after the last election result) referendum youd lose that too. Then what. face facts. The majority know the EU to be failing. We are lucky to be getting out now before the real issues start. Imagine the people of France and Germany when they get told that they alone will be bailing out all the other states because they have failed.
10/12/2020 22:46:20 3 2
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YOU mean you want a vote until you get the result you want, in spite of the overwhelming mandate for Johnson to taker the uk out of the EU ands subservience to unelected bureaucrats like Von der Leyden
10/12/2020 22:56:31 1 1
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"Not what was promised at the Referendum or the Election"

But I don't remember Blair promising mass immigration and rocketing house prices either.

FOOLS YOU ARE

The constitution needed changing .. but you believed liblabcon telling you "it worked well".

Look in the mirror and blame the person looking at you.
10/12/2020 22:57:37 5 1
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Good grief. How many votes do you want? You'll still lose.
11/12/2020 00:22:50 0 0
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And MP's have never lied before an election have they? I dont know who you vote for but look through their history when coming to power and see how they done. If they never lied or didnt carry through what they said then they dont exist.

It is why a lot of people do not vote anymore.

But we DID vote to leave, deal or no deal in case you do not remember.
11/12/2020 03:53:53 0 0
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"Get Brexit done" and he has.
11/12/2020 07:05:46 0 0
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Oh dear
11/12/2020 07:22:33 0 0
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I voted to leave, no one lied to me or the vast majority of the country who voted the government in....good riddance to the EU, No deal better than "any deal"
jad
11/12/2020 08:27:00 0 0
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You remainers live in a dream world, what was promised was to leave the EU!! deal or no deal never came into it, we are back to this stupid argument your starting to sound like Trump. I didn't get my way so must be wrong, so glad the democratically elected government that won a massive 80 majority don't have to listen to this rubbish!
11/12/2020 08:53:46 0 0
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Its unimportant.
What is important is that we are leaving the rotten-to-the-core club.
We will soon be an independent, fully sovereign nation.
And I, for one, can hardly wait!!!
Life will be great.
Yes!!!!
11/12/2020 09:00:02 0 0
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It is all good and well bemoaning promises, but if you had thought this through you may have realised that no UK politician can make promises on behalf of a another states politicians. We still had negotiations to strike, so your assuming that a promise was going to be accepted by all is incredibly short-sighted /naïve.

Still, it is a good slogan, and we all know how Trumpsters love those...
11/12/2020 09:16:53 0 0
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Totally agree
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10/12/2020 19:22:38 173 31
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That man is our Prime Minister. No wonder we are a laughing stock
Kim
10/12/2020 21:28:28 29 42
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Much, much better than the alternative at the last election
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10/12/2020 19:20:47 54 125
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The UK voted to leave the EU, you and your like are in denial.
73
10/12/2020 19:22:40 20 3
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No Deal BREXIT and Deal BREXIT very different beasts my friend
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10/12/2020 19:19:58 124 53
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No deal has been inevitable for 4yrs. None of us are surprised and most of us will just get on with life!
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10/12/2020 19:22:42 88 93
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Absolutely agree. The EU were never going to agree to any deal.
10/12/2020 20:01:39 8 6
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I will be happy to teach you to read. Google Crispin Odey and Boris and you will see how they are making your opinions look idiotic country boy
10/12/2020 21:47:16 3 3
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In a nutshell. Their opening stance was to punish. How much clearer does it have to be for people to grasp that?
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10/12/2020 19:18:18 5 9
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Yay!!!!!!
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10/12/2020 19:18:20 70 15
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This is what happens when you vote in utter charlatans.
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10/12/2020 19:27:26 27 23
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Yep but labour gave no choice putting a Marxist to oppose
10/12/2020 20:13:40 2 3
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Oh! So you voted for the lefties ... who only do what the unions and the EU allow them to do? How patriotic!
10/12/2020 21:56:27 2 2
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No one could vote for Labour. Apart from being an anti-Tory vote there was no other reason that anyone could vote Labour. They literally had nothing.
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10/12/2020 19:18:56 10 19
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Go Boris! - The country is with you.
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10/12/2020 19:24:51 1 11
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We keep the fish,
KAPEESH
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10/12/2020 19:26:30 1 0
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I hope that was sarcasm, in poor taste! He’s a deceitful person who has cheated his way through a spoilt life.
CSM
10/12/2020 20:09:12 0 0
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You started so well.

Should have finished after 'Go Boris!'
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10/12/2020 19:22:47 152 33
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The whole purpose of Brexit was so the far right can dismantle your employments rights, and they can’t do that with a deal that has ‘level playing field’ in it.

But you all knew that, didn’t you. Apparently.
Far right??? when did the NF get in? Idiot. Removed